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this is so ridiculous I legit can't tell if it's satire lmao · 3 months ago

I'm definitely on the X11 camp. There are only few good tiling window managers for wayland (sway & hyprland) but they can't beat my AwesomeWM setup on X11. And I guess they're not planning for porting Awesome to wayland. · 4 months ago

i hadn't considered its effect on the BSDs, thats very interesting · 4 months ago

@shway there are a few other options like river and hyprland, but yeah its not super mature yet · 4 months ago

@m_a_r_k I don't know if it was AI, but you are right, it feels like it was.

My beef with Wayland is that it is too dependant in linuxisms and is hard to port to other OS. Oh, and that in practice, you can only use Gnome (which at this point is turning into Linux only DE), KDE and maybe Sway. At least for now. Also Waylan extensions are XML? Why? Time will tell, but IMHO Wayland is not there yet.

https://www.bsdcan.org/2025/talks/BSDCan2025-jeff_frasca-wayland-presentation.pdf · 4 months ago

was this written by AI? it feels like it was.

I totally understand the point youre making here. from my perspective, wayland solves some critical issues that are very hard to solve in x11 for actual mainstream adoption.

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the first is a real screen lock solution. x11 screen locks have always been a hack, and trivial to bypass. no actual security implemented. in the same vain, every application has a cess to all data on the screen, so one malicious could very easily exfilfrate sensitive data.

i also find it interesting that the x11 devs and the wayland devs are the same pool of people. it was x11 devs that decided to start over with a new protocol. · 4 months ago

Using X11 for more than 25 years, Linux, and even on Mac through XQuartz. Don't know what Wayland is offering, but probably they(corporations) going to try standardize Linux desktop computers to make it viable for business of casual desktop computers and legally protected under some Redhat or MS umbrella. Long story short they are going for mass market linux desktop. · 4 months ago

Wayland seems to be a solution looking for a problem to me… X11 is not perfect but does the job in a very stable manner.. X11 for me it is… · 4 months ago

@ashnar Not quite. Wayland hasn't been around for 20 years yet. · 4 months ago

I'm in the "from my cold dead hand" camp of X11 users!!

Isn't wayland as old now as X11 was when the split happened, or something? · 4 months ago