IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, July 24, 2022
beginning of new day, July 24
00:00 schestowitz[TR2]; of course years later he deleted all his dents one by one
00:00 schestowitz[TR2]; not wanting to be "cancelled" himself
00:00 schestowitz[TR2]; I can no longer rermember what rubbed people the wrong way
00:00 schestowitz[TR2]; but it was over a decade ago
00:01 matey; stallman: god doesnt exist
00:01 matey; kuhn: i do too!
00:01 schestowitz[TR2]; fan, too!
00:01 schestowitz[TR2]; *fan too
00:01 schestowitz[TR2]; >funtoo
00:02 matey; wantoo funtoo, doncha wantoo
00:02 matey; why are you on a funtoo kick this week
00:02 matey; did you notice shuttleworth resigned from debian 2 days ago?
00:03 matey; and i learned what "emeritus" means
00:03 matey; though it probably should have been more obvious
00:03 TR News; Nala - A Feature-rich Commandline Frontend For APT Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167571
00:03 TR Bot; Nala - A Feature-rich Commandline Frontend For APT | Tux Machines
00:03 matey; emeritus = everyone worth anything at the fsf, if they retain that even
00:04 matey; the fsf is mostly people who can still vote but arent there anymore
00:04 matey; i think even mjg can still vote there
00:04 matey; funnier still if kuhn can
00:04 matey; that would be fucking hilarious
00:05 matey; "mr kuhn every year you say lets get merge the fsf UNDER sfc and every year, we tell you know"
00:05 matey; "but i voted!"
00:05 matey; "yes but so did we"
00:05 matey; "but mine should count more"
00:05 TR News; Tidal-hifi: Stream Music from Tidal on Linux System - TREND OCEANS https://trendoceans.com/tidal-hifi-player-linux/ Source: trendoceans | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//trendoceans.com/tidal-hifi-player-linux/
00:05 TR Bot; Tidal-hifi: Stream Music from Tidal on Linux System - TREND OCEANS
00:06 matey; "and you wonder why we voted against"
00:06 matey; for every person who gets a vote at sfc
00:07 matey; kuhn gets to vote twice
00:07 TR News; Q4OS 4.9 OFFICIAL announcement likely tomorrow in the site, but technically it's out already
00:07 matey; he runs the free software industry (yes its an oxymoron) like trump ran the usa
00:08 matey; with a similar level of entitlement
00:08 matey; and a similiar level of empathy and sense of equity
00:08 TR News; "In my last post I told how Tobias helped me get cacheSpaceHierarchy() function working as expected. The fix was easy. That doesn't mean I'll take half a minute to code and commit." https://snehit.dev/posts/kde/gsoc-22/be-careful-with-signal-slots/
00:08 TR Bot; Be Careful With Signal Slots - GSoC'22 post #9
00:08 matey; similiar <- freudian slip
00:08 TR News; "Following a similar sprint two month ago, we had another small KDE Eco meeting in Berlin a week ago. Joseph will probably write a more comprehensive summary like last time, here are just some of the things I looked at and/or worked on." https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2022/07/23/kde-eco-sprint-july-2022.html
00:08 TR Bot; KDE Eco Sprint July 2022
00:09 TR News; Limine Installer version 1.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167572
00:09 TR Bot; Limine Installer version 1.0 | Tux Machines
00:11 matey; when phipps gets older, he will look even more like palpatine
00:11 matey; then the relationship between he and his younger apprentice will that much more obvious
00:11 matey; "but im not open source!"
00:12 matey; "my dear boy, when do you think you will command the dark side of the force, if you do not lie?"
00:12 TR News; Apache Beam users detail stream data processing applications https://www.techtarget.com/searchdatamanagement/news/252523046/Apache-Beam-users-detail-stream-data-processing-applications Source: techtarget | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.techtarget.com/searchdatamanagement/news/252523046/Apache-Beam-users-detail-stream-data-processing-applications
00:12 TR Bot; Apache Beam users detail stream data processing applications
00:14 TR News; 7 Myths About Linux That You Should Stop Believing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167573
00:14 TR Bot; 7 Myths About Linux That You Should Stop Believing | Tux Machines
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00:16 TR News; Window 10 EOL In 2025: Year Of The Linux Desktop? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XQcg2jXgV7A | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/XQcg2jXgV7A
00:16 TR Bot; Window 10 EOL In 2025: Year Of The Linux Desktop? - Invidious
00:17 TR News; Merge branch 'for-5.20/amd-sfh' into for-next https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/hid/hid.git/commit/?h=for-next&id=92f419de687a35f62e44ec9a26caa61bc3071bf7
00:17 TR Bot; kernel/git/hid/hid.git - HID Group's fork of hid.git
00:17 TR News; Just to upset Doktor Sixel https://www.phoronix.com/news/HarfBuzz-5.0-Released
00:17 TR Bot; 5.0 Released With Progress On Supporting The "Boring Expansion" Font Spec - Phoronix
00:18 TR News; Porting a Tiling Window Manager Extenstion to C++ (Bismuth): Part-1 :: Kushashwa Ravi Shrimali (Kush) Learning never stops! https://krshrimali.github.io/posts/2022/07/porting-a-tiling-window-manager-extenstion-to-c-bismuth-part-1/ Source: krshrimali
00:18 TR Bot; Porting a Tiling Window Manager Extenstion to C++ (Bismuth): Part-1 :: Kushashwa Ravi Shrimali (Kush) Learning never stops!
00:19 TR News; Xinerama becomes hard requirement of KWin - Vlad Zahorodniis Blog https://blog.vladzahorodnii.com/2022/07/23/xinerama-becomes-hard-requirement-of-kwin/ Source: vladzahorodnii | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.vladzahorodnii.com/2022/07/23/xinerama-becomes-hard-requirement-of-kwin/
00:19 TR Bot; Xinerama becomes hard requirement of KWin Vlad Zahorodnii's Blog
00:21 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167574
00:21 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
00:21 DaemonFC; SeaTab-X-2 was re-licensed from a non-commercial use license to the MPL 2.
00:23 TR News; KDE Development: Xinerama, Bismuth, KDE Eco Sprint, and GSoC Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167575
00:23 TR Bot; KDE Development: Xinerama, Bismuth, KDE Eco Sprint, and GSoC | Tux Machines
00:25 TR News; "T2 SDE is not just a regular Linux distribution," reads the announcement. "It is a flexible Open Source System Development Environment or Distribution Build Kit (others might even name it Meta Distribution). T2 allows the creation of custom distributions with state of the art technology" https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/07/23/0514203/t2-sde-linux-226-released---and-an-ai-bot-contributed-more-revisions-than-humans
00:25 TR Bot; T2 SDE Linux 22.6 Released - and an AI Bot Contributed More Revisions Than Humans - Slashdot
00:26 TR News; Want to help make Rolling better? https://forum.openmandriva.org/t/want-to-help-make-rolling-better/4526
00:26 TR Bot; Want to help make Rolling better? - Support - OMA forum
00:26 TR News; "While at GUADEC I finished a small script which uses the GitLab API to estimate the resource use of a project on GitLab. It looks at the CI pipeline job durations and artifact storage for the project and its forks over a given period, and totals things." https://tecnocode.co.uk/2022/07/23/looking-at-project-resource-use-and-ci-pipelines-in-gitlab/
00:26 TR Bot; Looking at project resource use and CI pipelines in GitLab | Philip Withnall
00:27 TR News; Integrated Inconsistencies. | Saif [blogs.perl.org] http://blogs.perl.org/users/saif/2022/07/integrated-inconsistencies.html Source: perl | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//blogs.perl.org/users/saif/2022/07/integrated-inconsistencies.html
00:27 TR Bot; Inconsistencies. | Saif [blogs.perl.org]
00:28 TR News; Planet Grep now running PtLink https://grep.be/blog//en/computer/Planet_Grep_now_running_PtLink/ Source: grep | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//grep.be/blog//en/computer/Planet_Grep_now_running_PtLink/
00:28 TR Bot; Planet Grep now running PtLink
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00:29 TR News; "In my previous blog post, I mentioned using the GtkListView for the templates submenu. But, after a few discussions with my mentor @antoniof, we decided to use the GtkListBox to create the custom widget for the new documents creation feature" https://utkarsh2401.blogspot.com/2022/07/gsoc-2022-second-update.html
00:29 TR Bot; GSOC 2022: Second Update
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00:30 TR News; Toolbx bypassing the immutability of OCI containers | Debarshis den https://debarshiray.wordpress.com/2022/07/22/toolbx-bypassing-the-immutability-of-oci-containers/ Source: debarshiray | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//debarshiray.wordpress.com/2022/07/22/toolbx-bypassing-the-immutability-of-oci-containers/
00:30 TR Bot; Toolbx bypassing the immutability of OCI containers | Debarshi's den
00:30 TR News; SUSE pushing containers as a vehicle for proprietary software and vendor lock-in https://www.suse.com/c/suse-rancher-manages-amazon-eks-hybrid-landscape/
00:31 TR Bot; Rancher Manager EKS Hybrid Landscape | SUSE Communities
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00:38 britney; I won't watch movies or tv shows unless the script is creative commons
00:38 schestowitz[TR2]; makes sens
00:38 schestowitz[TR2]; but just CC?
00:38 schestowitz[TR2]; not public domain?
00:38 schestowitz[TR2]; IA has plenty of very old films
00:38 matey; i tried to promote only cc licensed stuff
00:38 schestowitz[TR2]; public domain
00:38 britney; public domain works too
00:39 matey; and only the subset of cc thats free
00:39 matey; by-sa, by, cc0
00:39 matey; most things are nc
00:39 matey; or nd
00:40 matey; and nc-nd is basically "all rights reserved but we wont sue for downloading"
00:40 matey; stallman of course, says that its different for software
00:40 britney; stallman can't be trusted because he drinks pepsi
00:40 matey; i get what hes saying-- usa copyright didnt even consider software copyrightable until 1980
00:40 britney; stallman should be drinking opencola
00:41 matey; his reasons for drinking pepsi is coca cola murders workers
00:41 matey; he probably wont drink opencola because of the name :)
00:41 britney; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola_(drink)
00:41 TR Bot; OpenCola (drink) - Wikipedia
00:41 matey; /me wont drink ubuntu cola because shuttleworth is an idiot
00:41 matey; even though theres no actual connection!
00:42 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1550981776012607491 I saw this and I wondered: what did he say this time?
00:42 matey; so what did he say
00:42 XRevan86; Apparently, this: https://r.nf/r/chomsky/comments/w5yv6b
00:42 britney; matey, but you run openbsd
00:42 XRevan86; Seems like he learnt nothing about Russia in the passing months.
00:42 matey; /me figures its either putin or kuhn
00:42 TR News; Videos: Vista 10, Kaisen Linux 2.1, and Packaging Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167576
00:42 matey; britney: yeah because openbsd is more free than freebsd
00:43 matey; and i mean 4 freedoms and more
00:43 matey; free drivers
00:43 matey; (not free firmware, thats why hyperbola exists)
00:43 britney; matey, i finally got xfce working in openbsd via gnome boxes (qemu)
00:43 matey; cool
00:43 matey; how
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00:44 britney; i used xenodm and added startxfce4 to my .xsession
00:44 matey; oh ok
00:44 matey; why gnome boxes over qemu?
00:44 matey; i mean why not just qemu
00:44 TR News; Steam Deck: The Ratio of Verified Titles is Falling. Whats Happening? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167577
00:44 britney; gnome boxes is easy
00:45 matey; sure, but theyll just kill it in a few years
00:45 matey; theyre worse than google
00:45 matey; (google plus, google wave, google-- everything else they got rid of)
00:45 matey; (google done be evil...)
00:45 britney; ill worry about it in a few years
00:45 matey; fair enough
00:46 britney; if they kill it, ill use libvirtd
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00:46 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
00:46 XRevan86; matey: GNOME Boxes seems like it's here to stay.
00:47 XRevan86; I don't think they'll drop it.
00:49 TR News; Benchmarks: Ubuntu 22.04 on x86, Intel Linux Driver Patch http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167578 Source: tuxmachines
00:49 TR Bot; Benchmarks: Ubuntu 22.04 on x86, Intel Linux Driver Patch | Tux Machines
00:50 matey; <XRevan86> I don't think they'll drop it. <- if the soviet union fell, gnome too will fall
00:50 XRevan86; matey: Everything eventually will.
00:50 matey; /me cant even the tell the difference anymore
00:50 MinceR; shaka, when the walls fell
00:50 britney; i don't think gnome is going anywhere
00:50 matey; libvirt: red hat/oftc (ew)
00:51 XRevan86; The year is 2258. IRC and GNOME are still going.
00:51 matey; thats a terrible thing to do to babylon 5
00:51 XRevan86; Humanity perished, computing went sentient.
00:52 XRevan86; Heated debates are ongoing about whether the term "HIG" really cuts it when no human is around.
00:52 matey; if gnome is still around in 2258, im coming back to put an end to it
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00:52 matey; i dont know how, but ill think of something
00:54 matey; if possible ill bring stallman too
00:54 britney; https://github.com/lethal-guitar/RigelEngine <--Duke Nukem 2 for linux
00:54 TR Bot; - lethal-guitar/RigelEngine: A modern re-implementation of the classic DOS game Duke Nukem II
00:55 britney; sorry matey, u can't play Duke Nukem 2
00:55 britney; its on github
00:55 matey; itlab
00:55 matey; libvirtd is on gitlab
00:56 matey; at least libvirt is
00:56 britney; oh cool
00:56 matey; libvirrd will probably become systemd-libvirtd
00:56 britney; LOL
00:56 matey; i cant think of any reason why they wouldnt
00:56 matey; maybe an "init system" needs to spawn other operating systems
00:57 matey; docker needs systemd. systemd doesnt need docker.
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00:59 matey; yo dawg, we herd you like emus
1 AM, July 24
01:02 MinceR; 24 015502 < britney> sorry matey, u can't play Duke Nukem 2
01:02 MinceR; you can run it in dosbox
01:04 britney; you could but that would be the proprietary version
01:04 britney; RigelEngine is free software
01:05 britney; supports widescreen too
01:06 britney; is avoiding proprietary software worth downloading from github? thats the question
01:08 britney; http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167559
01:08 TR Bot; Games: Duke Nukem II on OpenPOWER, The Humble Deck Builder Bundle, and More | Tux Machines
01:08 britney; I found out about Duke 2 by visiting Roy's tuxmachines article
01:14 britney; DaemonFC, there is a pidgin plugin called 'purple-facebook' that lets you use pidgin with facebook messenger
01:15 DaemonFC; Yep
01:15 britney; im reading your article about SeaMonkey and you say you had problems with facebook
01:21 britney; i started using purple-discord and now im not wasting over 300mb ram on a chat program
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01:24 britney; matey, what do you use to edit text?
01:26 TR News; Links 23/07/2022: GNU Datamash 1.8, Gemipedia Supports All Languages Now | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/gnu-datamash-1-8/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/23/gnu-datamash-1-8/
01:26 TR Bot; Links 23/07/2022: GNU Datamash 1.8, Gemipedia Supports All Languages Now | Techrights
01:27 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D301.jpg
01:28 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D652.jpg
01:28 matey; i have my own text editor
01:28 matey; its also a shell
01:28 schestowitz[TR2]; i have that installed too :-)
01:29 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe old version
01:29 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167580
01:29 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
01:29 TR News; Apache Beam users detail stream data processing applications Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167581
01:29 TR Bot; Apache Beam users detail stream data processing applications | Tux Machines
01:29 TR News; Devices: Arduino, Fairphone, and x86 Alternative to Raspberry Pi 4 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167582
01:29 TR Bot; Devices: Arduino, Fairphone, and x86 Alternative to Raspberry Pi 4 | Tux Machines
01:29 TR News; Distributions: OpenMandriva Rolling, T2 SDE Linux 22.6, Zorin OS Editions Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167583
01:29 TR Bot; Distributions: OpenMandriva Rolling, T2 SDE Linux 22.6, Zorin OS Editions | Tux Machines
01:35 TR News; The final epo part about the leaks to be released shortly.
01:36 TR News; Planning to record video around 3am about the latest epo series. background at http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO
01:36 TR Bot; EPO - Techrights
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01:51 DaemonFC_; Oh for Christ's sake
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02:02 DaemonFC; https://files.illinoispolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Pump-in-Champaign-scaled.jpg
02:18 TR News; Series ETA 20 mins. The final epo part... a call for emergency re swpats in Europe :/
02:25 TR News; The EPO Bubble Part XII The Shape of Things to Come? | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/epo-shape-of-things-to-come/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/23/epo-shape-of-things-to-come/
02:25 TR Bot; The EPO Bubble Part XII The Shape of Things to Come? | Techrights
02:36 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-230722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-230722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-230722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-230722.txt
02:36 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, July 23, 2022
02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-230722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-230722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-230722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-230722.txt
02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, July 23, 2022
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02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, July 23, 2022
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-230722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-230722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-230722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-230722.txt
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, July 23, 2022
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-07-23.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-07-23.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:44 TR News; [Meme] Albert Said... | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/meme-albert-said/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/23/meme-albert-said/
02:44 TR Bot; [Meme] Albert Said | Techrights
02:45 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167584
02:45 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
02:47 TR News; x86 ETERNALLY broken, no fix planned https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Ys%2FbWIk0F5srkkpF@kroah.com/ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220715221901.xm3c4w4idqt67uja@desk/ https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip.git/commit/?id=b648ab487f31bc4c38941bc770ea97fe394304bb
02:47 TR Bot; Re: RETBleed: WARNING: Spectre v2 mitigation leaves CPU vulnerable to RETBleed attacks, data leaks possible! - Greg Kroah-Hartman
02:47 TR Bot; Re: RETBleed: WARNING: Spectre v2 mitigation leaves CPU vulnerable to RETBleed attacks, data leaks possible! - Pawan Gupta
02:47 TR Bot; kernel/git/tip/tip.git - Unnamed repository; edit this file 'description' to name the repository.
02:48 TR News; 207: SCaLE 19x, RISC-V Laptop, Unreal Engine 5, Asahi Linux, System76 and more Linux news! https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-207/
02:48 TR Bot; SCaLE 19x, RISC-V Laptop, Unreal Engine 5, Asahi Linux, System76 and more Linux news! - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital
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02:53 TR News; The crooks who have taken/cemented control of Europes largest patent office (and Europes second-largest institution) have placed managers without any background in computing in charge of software patenting, based solely on intent to violate the European Patent Convention (EPC) and fake growth with bogus patents that harm Europe http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/epo-shape-of-things-to-come/
02:53 TR News; Is this the way to run a patent office? http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/meme-albert-said/
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03:06 matey; o/
03:06 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 9.7 MB TotalOut: 1.8 MB
03:07 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:09 phanes; https://youtu.be/ln7Vn_WKkWU
03:09 TR Bot; https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=ln7Vn_WKkWU
03:09 IPFS; QmNocWiFPVNdoZoPJy1s4vZQryq4BWRJMou5WsNScHuuMt
03:09 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
03:09 TR Bot; invidio.xamh.de | Stuck In The Middle With You - Invidious
03:10 matey; you said it
03:11 phanes; i need to convince my dog he's not being abandoned every time i give him outside time
03:13 matey; rescue dog?
03:13 phanes; no he's just attached and spoiled
03:13 phanes; i raised this one from a pup
03:13 phanes; at like 6 weeks
03:13 matey; maybe get him an iphone so he can text you
03:14 phanes; so he's never been more than like 5 feet away from me for more than a day at a time
03:14 matey; or just set up him up on irc you wont hear from him for days except when he wants to eat or go outside
03:15 phanes; im never getting another dog until i get a fenced plot of land
03:15 matey; good thinking
03:16 matey; i dont suppose theyll let you build one
03:17 phanes; https://youtu.be/PH0K6ojmGZA
03:17 TR Bot; https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=PH0K6ojmGZA
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03:22 matey; just so you know, you came when its totally dead
03:22 matey; gnumoon thought i was crazy for that even being a concept with me
03:22 matey; but while some people scrollback, others prefer when its live
03:23 matey; theres a possibility of more people after an hour or two
03:23 matey; technically theres a possibility at any time
03:24 matey; i just post whenever i have something to say. it doesnt even matter if it gets read
03:40 schestowitz[TR2]; I'm still awake
03:40 schestowitz[TR2]; just recorded a very long video
03:41 phanes; do you write out a list of talking points and topics beforehand?
03:41 schestowitz[TR2]; no
03:41 phanes; i know
03:41 schestowitz[TR2]; only after
03:42 phanes; you should consider doing it beforehand
03:42 bnchs; matey: imagine a dog on IRC
03:42 schestowitz[TR2]; it ruins the video, it makes it seem scripted
03:42 phanes; and then having the list where you can see it during the video
03:42 bnchs; creepy
03:42 bnchs; but cool at the same time
03:42 matey; <bnchs> matey: imagine a dog on IRC <- consider an evolutionary timeframe
03:42 schestowitz[TR2]; on irc, nobody knows you're a dog until you bark
03:43 *schestowitz[TR2] barks
03:43 matey; if dogs were dexterous and intelligent enough, they could use irc
03:43 phanes; its all fun and games until someone spells w-a-l-k
03:43 matey; the only problem is that sniffing peoples butts (let alone humping legs) surely violates the code of conduct
03:43 matey; but thats not an issue here
03:44 bnchs; virtual hugging is bad
03:44 matey; i mean the code of conduct part
03:44 phanes; matey, nah most dogs have been neutered or spayed
03:44 bnchs; but what about virtual sniffing peoples butts
03:44 matey; so far theres been no butt sniffing here
03:44 bnchs; or virtual humping legs?
03:44 phanes; with great sacrifice comes great reward
03:45 matey; whats the great reward? im not against spaying and neutering but from the dogs perspective, whats in it for them
03:45 phanes; matey, none, its cruel and inhumane
03:45 MinceR; 24 044319 < matey> if dogs were dexterous and intelligent enough, they could use irc
03:45 MinceR; and they wouldn't be dogs :>
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03:45 matey; if we are still apes
03:45 phanes; luigi gets to keep his nuggets
03:45 matey; they could still be dogs
03:46 matey; maybe not canis vulgaris
03:46 matey; canis sapiens
03:46 MinceR; canis anticanis
03:47 matey; this coming from homo anti-homo
03:47 matey; mincer is homo(sapiens)phobic
03:47 schestowitz[TR2]; self-hating
03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; afaik he's a sapien
03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; heterosapien
03:48 matey; oh hes more sapien than average imo
03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; MinceR ia slso dogphobic
03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; he hates dogs
03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; iirc, he did put a dog meme/photo a few days ago
03:48 matey; maybe he just thinks they shouldnt be bred
03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; but forgot when or what
03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; he loves fox though
03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; foxophile
03:49 matey; not firefox
03:49 schestowitz[TR2]; it's man-made
03:49 matey; i believe he said all dog breeding is animal cruelty
03:49 schestowitz[TR2]; bred
03:49 schestowitz[TR2]; and many dogs suffer
03:49 schestowitz[TR2]; chronic issues, due to bad breeding
03:49 matey; just the act of breeding wolves into-- whatever the fuck that thing in a purse is
03:49 matey; its a tough stance to argue with really
03:49 schestowitz[TR2]; I have a friend who complained about his small doh
03:49 schestowitz[TR2]; *dog
03:50 phanes; black labs are good dogs
03:50 schestowitz[TR2]; and how it's cruel to breed these
03:50 phanes; wolves do not make good pets
03:50 matey; phanes: let me be sure about this
03:50 matey; if you get a wolf as a pup, raise it like a dog
03:50 matey; and live on a very large property in the middle of nowhere
03:50 phanes; matey, it'll eventually eat you or maim you
03:50 matey; putting aside legal issues
03:51 matey; that was basically my question
03:51 schestowitz[TR2]; https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c2a719b-cb3b-4848-b9aa-9fa7fe0adf1a_582x828.jpeg
03:51 matey; what a nice-looking url
03:51 schestowitz[TR2]; https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5823140f-3855-4d84-990c-b263b178189f_840x833.jpeg
03:52 matey; the thing i dont understand is
03:52 schestowitz[TR2]; https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda02992b-ddab-4f9c-b20c-51b40a66b79d_505x600.jpeg
03:52 matey; if wolves will eventually eat you or maim you
03:52 matey; how / why did we domesticate them in the first place
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03:54 matey; i presume we went on hunts with them, or vice versa
03:54 phanes; matey, they can be trained and tames with some degree of violence if taken as a pup
03:54 phanes; yes
03:54 matey; but isnt that a bit stupid
03:54 phanes; they wouldve been useful on hunts like that
03:55 phanes; it wouldve taken hundreds of thousands of years of artificial selection for tameness
03:55 schestowitz[TR2]; phanes: dogs depend on you
03:55 matey; sure sure
03:55 schestowitz[TR2]; more than you depend on them
03:55 matey; but thats thousands of years of getting your arms and legs torn off
03:55 schestowitz[TR2]; cats are even worse in that regard
03:55 schestowitz[TR2]; but cats don't need to be walked out
03:55 matey; youd think we would have learned better in that time and left them alone
03:56 matey; i guess what im getting at is
03:56 matey; what did we do then that we couldnt do now
03:56 matey; and i dont figure there are books (from the time period) about it
03:56 phanes; matey, humans until the last 200 years or so were vicious and brutally violent, even more so a few thousand years back
03:56 schestowitz[TR2]; if you want to kill (people), get a wolf
03:56 matey; but maybe someone has figured it out based on... archeological clues and shit
03:57 schestowitz[TR2]; if you want to kill (time), get a wolfenstein
03:57 schestowitz[TR2]; I was addicted to that game
03:57 schestowitz[TR2]; the internet versions
03:57 MinceR; persumably there were some wolves that were more tolerant of humans to begin with
03:57 matey; /me never thought germans would play wolfenstein, but sure i guess
03:57 MinceR; or young that have lost their family
03:57 MinceR; as for cats depending on you, that depends on the cat
03:58 matey; cats dont really depend on you
03:58 MinceR; but afaik they're generally more wild than any other domestic animal
03:58 schestowitz[TR2]; wolves that arer vicious to human and sheep don't survive long
03:58 matey; they let you think it
03:58 phanes; the only reason your cat doesn't eat you is because it thinks you're a bigger, stronger, dumber cat
03:58 schestowitz[TR2]; horned animals that are nonviolent are even bred by humans
03:58 schestowitz[TR2]; like cows
03:58 schestowitz[TR2]; humans exterminated snakes here
03:58 schestowitz[TR2]; we can coexist with geese and ducks though
03:58 phanes; man
03:58 phanes; fuck geese
03:58 matey; geese will break your fucking arm
03:58 MinceR; no thanks
03:58 phanes; geese are arseholes
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 190.53
03:59 matey; /me got mugged by geese once
03:59 matey; they took my wallet and gave me a black eye
4 AM, July 24
04:00 schestowitz[TR2]; depends non the breed
04:00 schestowitz[TR2]; and whether they have eggs and goslings around
04:00 matey; /me waits for a goose in a purse
04:00 schestowitz[TR2]; Toulouse geese are a big scary
04:00 schestowitz[TR2]; *bit
04:00 schestowitz[TR2]; and big
04:01 schestowitz[TR2]; their 'voice' is also a bit scary
04:01 schestowitz[TR2]; don't f* with them
04:01 matey; their 'voice' is also a bit scary <- obviously inspired henry ford
04:01 schestowitz[TR2]; they make good pets here though
04:01 schestowitz[TR2]; matey: casting for deepthroat?
04:01 matey; i was thinking of the noise that the model t makes, but thanks for asking
04:08 MinceR; lol
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04:59 matey; stallmans biggest mistake ever was actually hurd
04:59 schestowitz[TR2]; not talking at microsoft?
5 AM, July 24
05:00 matey; nope
05:00 matey; that was probably a big mistake too
05:00 matey; hurd wasnt a bad idea for a project
05:00 matey; it was a terrible idea for gnus FIRST kernel
05:00 matey; in hindsight obviously, gnu should have had a run-of-the-mill kernel, like linux
05:01 matey; but not actually linux
05:01 matey; rather one that gnu could work with
05:01 matey; by choosing a design that was far too complex to build in a sort of arms race with open source
05:01 matey; which stallman did not see linux as
05:01 schestowitz[TR2]; i think media interferences played a role... bear with me
05:02 matey; but linux WAS resisted within gnu for as long as possible
05:02 schestowitz[TR2]; in how linux turned out
05:02 matey; media always plays a role, you dont have to convince me
05:02 schestowitz[TR2]; and became a weapon against gnu
05:02 schestowitz[TR2]; and the movem,ent
05:02 schestowitz[TR2]; so one way or another they'd try controlled opposition tactics
05:02 schestowitz[TR2]; sooner or later
05:02 matey; open source played a bigger role
05:02 matey; and used the media
05:02 schestowitz[TR2]; like they did antiwar activist
05:02 schestowitz[TR2]; linus also was propped up by media
05:02 schestowitz[TR2]; and torvalds played along
05:02 matey; linus was a co-opter. linux was a counterrevolution
05:03 matey; if stallman knew anything about the industry (and he should, he created the movement to stand against its tactics)
05:03 schestowitz[TR2]; linux will never be "anything professional like gnu"
05:03 schestowitz[TR2]; it'll be zemlinware
05:03 matey; he should have realised linux was bound to be weaponised
05:03 schestowitz[TR2]; badgeware
05:03 matey; yeah but that false modesty from linus became moot as soon as it was publically traded
05:03 matey; he stole an os
05:03 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe the media would have called it kdeOS
05:03 schestowitz[TR2]; and pretend that gnu was jus "some compiler"
05:03 schestowitz[TR2]; for kde
05:03 matey; kde is even less of an os than linux though
05:04 matey; linux at least, is a core part of an os
05:04 matey; kde is iceing
05:04 schestowitz[TR2]; systeeeeeeeeeemDOS
05:04 matey; (at least compared to the linux kernel)
05:04 matey; maybe kde is the smaller tier on a wedding cake
05:04 matey; but whatever it is, the kernel is pretty key to an os
05:05 matey; hurd was a GREAT idea for SECOND kernel
05:05 matey; but by doing that first, they left gnu wide open for the usurpers
05:05 matey; im not saying that he should have foreseen all of that
05:06 matey; but at some point, he maybe should have foreseen some of it
05:06 matey; it created such a rift for such a long time
05:06 matey; he thought he could fix that with an olive branch
05:06 matey; that was naive
05:06 matey; im not saying hes dumb-- weve ALL been that naive before
05:06 matey; it was still naive
05:07 matey; olive branches. with corporations. do. not. work.
05:07 matey; once linux became corporate, gnu/linux was Doomed.
05:07 matey; its been corporate for a long time
05:07 schestowitz[TR2]; true
05:07 schestowitz[TR2]; but wasitttt
05:07 matey; further proof he doesnt get this is signing over
05:07 schestowitz[TR2]; btw
05:07 matey; you go ahead
05:07 schestowitz[TR2]; the multi char thing
05:07 schestowitz[TR2]; not iontentional
05:07 schestowitz[TR2]; terrible network lag
05:08 matey; what multu char thing
05:08 schestowitz[TR2]; and I use synergy
05:08 matey; oh that
05:08 schestowitz[TR2]; how do we tackle this issue?
05:08 matey; lol, i thought it was for effect
05:08 schestowitz[TR2]; and go back to grassroots?
05:08 matey; but waiiiiit
05:08 schestowitz[TR2]; even debian seems more compromised than ever now
05:08 schestowitz[TR2]; run by lawyers
05:08 schestowitz[TR2]; and corporations that muzzle critics
05:08 matey; i mean you can do what you want. only grassroots will ever be controlled by users.
05:08 matey; only. grassroots.
05:08 matey; homemade software
05:09 schestowitz[TR2]; yeah, but...
05:09 matey; OUR OWN FORKS of corporate shit, at worse
05:09 schestowitz[TR2]; we need more momentum in ttthe ggggrassroots
05:09 schestowitz[TR2]; for real encryption
05:09 schestowitz[TR2]; anddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd not centralisaition llllllllllllllllllllllike LF... here we go agaaaaaaaaain.... network issueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
05:09 matey; thats trippy
05:09 schestowitz[TR2]; I'll typeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee from my lllllocal machine
05:09 matey; its like youre typing in hyperspace
05:09 schestowitz; until the connection is stable
05:10 schestowitz; it keeps sending the same signal many times
05:10 schestowitz; happened for a little while yesterday
05:10 schestowitz; not a software bug, network latency
05:10 matey; it would be more annoying if it were verticle
05:10 matey; vertical
05:11 matey; horizontally im unphased
05:11 schestowitz; anyway, back on topic
05:11 schestowitz; so arhc seems community
05:11 schestowitz; but it is also tried to SPI
05:11 schestowitz; which sponsors the dirty greedy lawyers
05:11 matey; linux is the same problem for arch it is for gnu
05:11 matey; in the short run they can work around it
05:12 matey; but really, stallman seems to never think of things like
05:12 matey; oh, these problems can just be moved from software to hardware
05:12 schestowitz; btw, the nwtwork is further dsloed down because of rsync
05:12 matey; hese problems can just be moved from userspace to kernel
05:12 schestowitz; uploading the next video
05:12 matey; hes a we will cross that bridge when we get to it kind of guy
05:12 matey; but the problem is, we are there
05:12 matey; we are at the bridge
05:12 schestowitz; yes, I mentioned patents moving from software to embedded
05:13 schestowitz; and how that bypasses rules
05:13 schestowitz; some patents on "virtualisation"
05:13 matey; thats a reasonable point to make
05:13 matey; but the fsf isnt equipped to do that
05:13 matey; they focus on software
05:13 matey; that made sense once
05:13 schestowitz; they focus on fundraising trbh
05:13 matey; no shit
05:13 schestowitz; without doing much discernable activity this year
05:14 matey; oh they handed over a lot of things to the coup
05:14 schestowitz; *discernible
05:14 matey; so there was that activity
05:14 matey; the fingerprints of the coup are all over everything
05:14 matey; those people have never used soap, at least on their hands
05:14 schestowitz; Zoe did an interview with ICBM recently
05:14 schestowitz; a site called OpenSource.com
05:14 matey; oh god
05:14 matey; oh ffs
05:14 schestowitz; FSF ED, in ICBM
05:14 schestowitz; Red Hatr
05:15 schestowitz; the same company that boycotts RMS
05:15 schestowitz; the founder of her employer
05:15 matey; /me grows more arms to facepalm properly
05:15 schestowitz; under the name "Open Source"
05:15 matey; maybe zoe will go work for sfc
05:15 schestowitz; created to destroy the rela movement
05:15 matey; im not saying shes as bad as "them"
05:15 matey; im just saying, wtf
05:15 matey; she seems innocent enough
05:15 matey; not stupid... but... what, i dont know
05:15 matey; i really dont
05:15 schestowitz[TR2]; https://opensource.com/article/22/7/meet-fsf-executive-director-zoe-kooyman
05:16 TR Bot; Free Software Foundation Executive Director Zo Kooyman | Opensource.com
05:16 matey; christ on a stick
05:16 schestowitz[TR2]; she is conformist enough for them
05:16 matey; ibm is taking over both debian and fsf
05:16 matey; they alread have gnu by the... gnuts
05:16 matey; Its Basically Microsoft
05:16 schestowitz[TR2]; me rewrites Meet Free Software Foundation Executive Director Zo Kooyman | Opensource.com
05:17 matey; i consider the fsf only technically not fraud
05:17 schestowitz[TR2]; as Meet Veterans for Peace chief Dick Cheney | Fox News
05:17 matey; im sure for legal purposes theyre doing whatever they have to
05:17 matey; its a scam
05:18 matey; i knew some people from veterans for peace
05:18 matey; nothing makes people against war like actually seeing it for themselves
05:18 schestowitz[TR2]; and Fox is owned by those who both for invansionb
05:18 schestowitz[TR2]; like ICBM invading FSF
05:18 schestowitz[TR2]; and GCC etc.
05:19 matey; stallman talks about handcuffs
05:19 matey; he thinks its about handcuffs or no handcuffs
05:19 matey; but he doesnt talk about escape much-- in practical terms
05:19 matey; he doesnt talk about how software gets trapped (except by js and java)
05:19 matey; and even if he does, he misses too much
05:20 matey; these were invalid critiques once
05:20 matey; old critiques-- unfair ones
05:20 matey; not unfair anymore
05:20 matey; the ship went down
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05:20 matey; granted, I Blame Mutiny
05:20 matey; and microsoft
05:20 matey; but where the fuck is the captains log?
05:21 matey; (or his first and second mates)
05:21 schestowitz[TR2]; under the ICBM
05:21 schestowitz[TR2]; in the sub
05:21 matey; i guess
05:21 phanes; nobody who knows what war looks like wants war
05:21 phanes; except for lunatics
05:21 matey; unless there are no other options
05:21 matey; sometimes there are no other options. USUALLY there are other optinos
05:21 schestowitz[TR2]; there are usually alternaitves
05:21 matey; most wars are bullshit
05:21 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe not immediately
05:21 matey; altnernatives that dont work
05:21 phanes; yeah but even when there's not another option, nobody sane and informed -wants- it
05:21 matey; do what you want, if you get invaded, fight like hell.
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05:22 phanes; it is only after a war has begun that the informed and sane should learn to enjoy it
05:22 matey; even when there's not another option, nobody sane and informed -wants- it <- fair point
05:22 phanes; avoid it all costs
05:22 phanes; but
05:22 phanes; if you find yourself in one
05:22 phanes; find a way to like it
05:22 matey; sure
05:24 matey; big software projects are the easiest ones to take over
05:24 matey; they requires LOTS of care and feeding-- more than most people can manage
05:24 matey; something big corporations are well equipped to "help" with
05:24 matey; thats what happened-- everything got purchased
05:24 matey; with services
05:25 matey; same as what happneed to little software companies: microsoft just buys them and kills them
05:25 matey; stallman never understood microsoft
05:25 matey; underestimated them
05:25 matey; even downplayed the threat-- at a time when it didnt look as stupid as it does now
05:26 matey; i blame the thieves of course
05:26 matey; but the fsf didnt even lock their doors
05:26 matey; they trusted a giant corporation (red hat) with the crown jewels
05:26 matey; that was so stupid
05:26 matey; a corporation can be bought! he knows that
05:26 schestowitz[TR2]; <matey> underestimated them
05:26 schestowitz[TR2]; what year?
05:27 matey; trusting a corporation with a ceo you trust--
05:27 schestowitz[TR2]; to be fair, in 1983 they were still a new company
05:27 schestowitz[TR2]; like 8 years
05:27 matey; with hosting gcc
05:27 matey; 93 you mean
05:27 schestowitz[TR2]; and without much momentttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttum
05:27 schestowitz[TR2]; going back to main PC
05:27 schestowitz; what year was the ICBM-Microsoft deal?
05:27 matey; trusting a corporation with a ceo you trust-- with something as key as gcc
05:27 matey; is like trusting a government with a PRESIDENT you trust-- with something like mass surveillance
05:28 matey; it doesnt matter if the president is okay
05:28 phanes; did roy just have a max headroom moment
05:28 matey; sooner or later there will be one who isnt
05:28 matey; dont trust a for-profit with the crown jewels of a non-profit!
05:28 matey; and i dont know when red hat took over this
05:28 matey; years ago to be sure
05:29 matey; but i didnt find out until one of my associates discovered it
05:29 schestowitz; phanes: repeat keystroke is a network issue
05:29 schestowitz; typing into that PC over LAN
05:29 schestowitz; wireless Lan
05:29 matey; bettterrrrrr wirelessssss than thisssssssss
05:29 matey; its like parceltongue
05:30 schestowitz; usually it works OK
05:30 matey; im sure
05:30 schestowitz; maybe I should restart synergy just to be sure
05:30 matey; /me wonders how synergy even adds characters to the stream
05:30 schestowitz[TR2]; still laggy
05:30 matey; like whats the mechanism? udp?
05:30 matey; tcp packets shouldnt do that
05:31 matey; is it a network based kvm or something?
05:31 matey; with udp packets for transmission
05:32 schestowitz[TR2]; kuiserver takes up 350 mb of ram
05:32 matey; you could filter all double characters but then --wireless becomes -wireles
05:33 matey; Synergy - Share one mouse & keyboard across computers
05:34 matey; Synergy works with anything from 2 computers, to 3 PCs and Macs, to as many as 15 devices of all types. macOS Windows Linux Raspberry Pi Effortless
05:34 schestowitz[TR2]; Barrier is better
05:34 schestowitz[TR2]; but some distros still use old synergy
05:34 schestowitz[TR2]; I use both in tandem
05:35 schestowitz[TR2]; ram wasted here, had to terminate some orphaned processes
05:35 schestowitz[TR2]; noticed that in kde ksysguard (now renamed)
05:35 schestowitz[TR2]; they mention systemd by name
05:35 schestowitz[TR2]; foir finding parent processes
05:35 matey; "synergy works reliably with no lag"
05:35 matey; they mean as a requirement, not as an effect :)
05:36 matey; if you have no lag, it works reliably
05:36 matey; if you have lag, sssssstrrrraapppp innnnnnnn
05:37 matey; stallman did not design things to make it easy for them to escape once captured by monopolies
05:37 phanes; i gave up on relying on an out of boix desktop environment
05:37 matey; he focused a license that he thought made it so companies couldnt monopolise the software
05:37 phanes; mine is mostly i3 with pieces of other DEs ive mixed in and tied together
05:37 matey; but he never thought about organisations monopolising development
05:38 matey; or corporations infiltrating those organisations (the fsf included)
05:38 matey; so now we have exactly that
05:38 phanes; he'll adapt
05:38 matey; he hasnt, he wont
05:38 matey; hes not even at the helm
05:38 matey; exiled in place
05:39 matey; they even made him his own little lieplanet
05:39 matey; as the separate but equal planet
05:40 phanes; huh?
05:40 matey; two lieplanets
05:40 matey; libre - br = lie
05:40 matey; the first one, no stallman
05:40 matey; the second one, stallman only
05:40 matey; both said, unless im wrong "welcome to libreplanet"
05:40 matey; two different dates
05:41 matey; this was after people complained that he wasnt on the schedule to talk at the "real" one
05:41 matey; and the organisers were a complete set of dicks about it
05:41 matey; this year, 2022
05:41 matey; two lieplanets-- one for stallman, one for everyone else
05:42 phanes; do you have any links to their statements about this
05:42 matey; one for coc-suckers, one for aspie troublemakers
05:42 matey; separate but equal
05:42 matey; the fun never ends with the free software fuckery
05:43 matey; fucktory
05:44 matey; if your ship is boarded, and you have a fleet, and you cant stop them from boarding
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05:44 matey; you can hit self destruct and move to another ship
05:44 matey; fsf cant
05:45 phanes; no link, no interest
05:45 matey; i just tell the story. if you want a link, ask
05:45 phanes; do you have any links to their statements about this
05:46 matey; no interest, no problem
05:46 matey; bad enough when people feign interest. when they really dont have it, at least theyre honest
05:49 matey; <schestowitz[TR2]> noticed that in kde ksysguard (now renamed) | they mention systemd by name | foir finding parent processes
05:49 matey; thats a shame
05:49 matey; systemd is a monopoly
05:50 matey; people who want freedom should really use something else
05:50 matey; kde is open source though
05:50 matey; so fake freedom
05:51 DaemonFC; https://www.privoxy.org/announce.txt
05:51 matey; The KDE Community
05:51 matey; An international team developing and distributing Open Source software.
05:51 DaemonFC; Opera is contributing a lot of security patches to Privoxy.
05:51 matey; front page
05:51 matey; they do say "KDE supports the FEEP and BE4FOSS programs to help free and open source communities produce more environmentally friendly software."
05:52 matey; developing and distributing Open Source softwar <- giant print
05:52 matey; " supports the FEEP and BE4FOSS programs to help free and open source communities" <- print you scroll past
05:52 matey; kde is definitely open source
05:52 DaemonFC; I have a Cyberpunk 2077 update from GOG I downloaded a while back that I haven't even played.
05:52 DaemonFC; The game was so buggy I tried to play it and just couldn't then got bored.
05:53 DaemonFC; Apparently, the QA was a lesson in how not to do QA.
05:53 DaemonFC; They told the paid beta testers that they had a "quota" of bugs to report, so the development team got snowed under with unimportant bugs that were hardly worth fixing and did not effectively prioritize.
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05:54 DaemonFC; Bug triage is like medical triage. You help the most serious cases and fix those first. The people who will live go to the back of the line in order of most severe to least.
05:54 DaemonFC; Well, that's how triage is supposed to work anyway.
05:55 matey; bad times ahead
05:55 matey; 2022/01/26 Ayush Singh will be working on a Rust wrapper for KConfig. With this wrapper, and the existing ones for qmetaobject and ki18n, it will be easier to develop KDE applications in Rust.
05:55 DaemonFC; In Chicago, the hospitals are overwhelmed with homeless during the winter and they see people in a FIFO buffer unless you're like...shot or something.
05:55 matey; rusty kde and the dirty sanchez
05:57 DaemonFC; I'm told the Japanese actually like Rahm Emanuel.
05:57 DaemonFC; Maybe they can just...keep him, after Biden's term ends.
05:57 matey; TUXEDO Computers, a company known for selling Linux-powered computers and notebooks, now joins us as a KDE Patron!
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05:57 matey; linux powered
05:58 matey; The KDE community makes a vast array of apps which get shipped in Linux distros, on Linux app stores, for Windows and Mac and for Android too.
05:58 matey; Brand new this week is the first stable release of MyGnuHealth.
05:59 matey; gnuhealth. for linux distros!
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
05:59 matey; mylinuxhealth
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06:00 matey; /me is looking for something, wont find it
06:00 matey; kde has no fucking leader.
06:00 matey; anarky
06:01 phanes; https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/controversial/Reichwein,%20Sarah%20Michelle/Todd_v_Reichweinn/2019-17-13_Wilcox/
06:01 TR Bot; TAODB
06:03 matey; im now curious
06:03 matey; as mjg is going to bring it up anyway
06:04 matey; whether his fiancees new name is legally changed to that-- and if so, why you prefer to use the old one and put their name in "quotes"
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06:04 matey; i can understand some arguments for using both names
06:05 phanes; matey, the nearest i can tell, reichwein has not actually legally changed her name and is using the the deadname claim to avoid fallout from having the real legal name used in publications
06:05 matey; thats the sort of answer i was looking for, cheer
06:05 matey; cheers
06:06 matey; in some places-- i think new hampshire is one, not as sure about mass
06:06 matey; you can do business under any name you want as long as its not used for fraud
06:06 phanes; if its a social situation, i dont mind calling anyone by even a preferred nickname as long as its not vulgar ("lovecruft" may meet that tbh) but its not insurmountable. if its a publication meant to expose something the legal name is required, so, if i see documentation showing that it was legallu changed i will update to whatever is apparently the legal name
06:06 matey; i think in most places its actually more complicated than that
06:07 DaemonFC; "- Make documentation slightly less "offensive" for some people
06:07 DaemonFC; by avoiding the word "hell"."
06:07 DaemonFC; LOL
06:07 matey; first definition when searching for cruft
06:07 matey; Cruft is a jargon word for anything that is left over, redundant and getting in the way. It is used particularly for defective, superseded, useless, superfluous, or dysfunctional elements in computer software History.
06:08 phanes; the cruft of love implies ejaculate
06:08 DaemonFC; What about the word "hell" is offensive?
06:08 matey; yeah if you interpret love as sex (lovin spoonful)
06:08 phanes; DaemonFC, idk man, people invent new ways to be offended every day
06:09 matey; plenty of examples of that exist
06:09 matey; Referring to any extraneous matter, either physical or ideological. First used in describing the portions of a grain that cannot be utilized for any particular purpose <- urban dict
06:09 matey; a less raunchy interpretation (im not saying yours is less realistic) would be
06:09 matey; to speculate
06:09 matey; "overlooked or rejected" for love
06:09 matey; sort of a torch song
06:10 matey; i wont pretend i can guess which one they had in mind
06:10 DaemonFC; phanesmatey, the nearest i can tell, reichwein has not actually legally changed her name and is using the the deadname claim to avoid fallout from having the real legal name used in publications
06:10 DaemonFC; It's a good angle, though.
06:10 phanes; in any case, i dont care what this person's name is, i care about the truth and actions of this person
06:10 matey; and im not suggesting you have to
06:10 DaemonFC; If you can't call them anything that they have to take responsibility for somehow.
06:10 matey; i care about the truth and actions of this person <- that is clearly the focus of the page
06:10 matey; thanks for humouring me nonetheless
06:10 DaemonFC; I can go by a different name every day of the year.
06:11 matey; as i said, its bound to come up
06:11 DaemonFC; That's even better.
06:11 DaemonFC; That way you're deadnaming me if you ever talk about me.
06:11 matey; its annoying to deal with mjgs side of the story when its the only one volunteered
06:11 phanes; im sure it will come up again, ive been very clear to anyone who asks about what i'd need to clarify the name.
06:11 phanes; the legal name is what they get
06:11 DaemonFC; If you want someone to refer to you by anything other than what's on your driver's license, you really need to go to court and change it.
06:12 DaemonFC; (Going by your middle name is fine as long as you initialize your first name on signatures and customarily do this.)
06:12 phanes; mj has already tried to paint it as anti-trans microaggression, but, when he makes a stink about that, it will only feed into his mo publicly
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06:13 DaemonFC; It's not improper to call someone by their legal name when you are referring to them.
06:13 matey; i think it depends on the situation, which is why i ask about the situation
06:13 DaemonFC; My aunt's ex-husband, Keith, never legally changed his name.
06:13 matey; by the way, do you know if this trip was related to a free (or open) software event, and if so which one
06:14 matey; ive seen the name bryce wilcox before, maybe a debian person, but not a signer.
06:14 matey; at least not of the letter
06:14 DaemonFC; If something is not so important in your life that you can't go down to court and pay $10 to have it changed, then why can you complain about deadnaming?
06:14 DaemonFC; *can
06:14 DaemonFC; I can go change my name tomorrow, legally, for $10.
06:15 DaemonFC; You can file the petition yourself. It's one form.
06:16 DaemonFC; The judge only asks if your new name is spelled correctly and that you want to go through with it. In general, I think you can't make it something deliberately obscene.
06:16 matey; Bryce "Zooko" Wilcox, a cypherpunk known for creating cryptocurrency Zcash, told Forbes that he wanted the privacy-oriented coin to move away from the proof of work (PoW) consensus mechanism. Wilcox believes that Zcash has to undergo an Ethereum-like transition to proof of stake (PoS).
06:18 DaemonFC; It's unbelievable how much code there was in SeaMonkey to deal with NPAPI plug-ins. I don't recall there being that much in Webkit.
06:18 matey; it looks like wilcox is supporting peter todd
06:19 matey; i must have read pocock telling of this or something
06:19 matey; i dont know where else i would have read this before, but ive read it somewhere
06:19 phanes; wilcox was most certainly not there to support peter todd
06:20 matey; then the legalese is tripping me
06:20 matey; "supportive motion" "defamation case" peter todd
06:20 matey; ive been told (even by a lawyer) that id make a good lawyer, but i have my doubts
06:21 matey; fortunately its not a career im pursuing
06:21 matey; the part about the switching seats is awfully familiar, i know i read this one months / year ago
06:22 matey; maybe it was discussed in irc
06:23 matey; A says that S told A that Z had made aggressive and inappropriate sexual statements in front of others about S after being rejected by S
06:23 matey; thats always a dick move if it happened
06:23 phanes; yeah definitely sounds like sexual harassment to me
06:23 phanes; want to be clear that i dont think that todd is not a dirtbag
06:24 matey; i dont know anything about him except this story
06:24 matey; and something something cryptocurrency
06:24 matey; https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/gilbert-gottfried-my-bob-saget-murderer-joke-is-not-a-true-story/
06:24 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/gilbert-gottfried-my-bob-saget-murderer-joke-is-not-a-true-story/ )
06:25 matey; Bob Saget raped and killed a girl 1990 Right so basically one of my favourite jokes is the title obviously not norm but gottfried. I was watching the Bob saget roast and saw comments outraged about why they were laughing and that he's a pedophile.
06:25 phanes; wow so apparently appelbaum made some appearances in this and actually submitted some testimony in support of todd's position in this case
06:25 matey; i swear we talked about that the other day
06:26 phanes; maybe
06:26 matey; or maybe you werent here-- i thought you were
06:26 phanes; im still ingesting all this content, it is a lot to go over
06:26 matey; i know the feeling, truly
06:27 phanes; its the fairest i can be given that mj is my primary marketing relay
06:27 matey; marketing?
06:28 matey; you mean he sells the website
06:28 phanes; yeah i had him post links to the wikipedia edits all over twitter for weeks before setting up the site and relay from my ip to the AO site
06:28 phanes; no he doesn't sell it, he markets it
06:28 phanes; so after he got ben white to repost it by request, it went from a 30k person audience to a 400k person audience
06:29 phanes; *ken white
06:29 matey; good lord
06:29 phanes; yeah it was awesome
06:29 phanes; he is super pissed about it too
06:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
06:30 phanes; "stepping on every rake in sight with abandon"
06:31 matey; wait wait wait
06:31 matey; is the case actually called
06:31 matey; Todd_v_Reichweinn
06:31 phanes; I see references to both a Todd v. Lovecrutft as well as a Todd v. Reichwein
06:31 matey; ok
06:31 matey; i mean
06:31 matey; its an argument to use their legal name if thats the name of the case
06:32 phanes; i am using their legal name
06:32 matey; i get that part
06:32 phanes; https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/14868600/todd-v-lovecruft/
06:32 TR Bot; v. Lovecruft, 4:19-cv-01751 CourtListener.com
06:33 phanes; that one says lovecruft but all the court docs say reichwein
06:33 matey; right
06:34 DaemonFC; https://www.newsweek.com/monkeypox-vaccine-priority-gay-community-1726851
06:34 TR Bot; Monkeypox Vaccine Should Be Given to Gay Community First, Experts Say
06:34 DaemonFC; I'm good. I don't need it.
06:35 matey; was todd ever convicted of rape?
06:35 matey; i ask because i suppose part of the defamation lawsuit was about a tweet that called him a rapist
06:35 matey; im not implying that you need to win a court case to call someone a rapist-- particularly by someone who raped you
06:36 DaemonFC; Another news article today was talking about 18 gay men with MonkeyPox, and most of them where complete hoebags. One of them was a University professor or something that took a trip to Europe and admitted that he was fucking random men all throughout like 7 countries. Then went to a bathhouse in Germany and said "Gee, I don't think they were wiping down that sex sling.".
06:36 phanes; matey, no there weren't even charges
06:36 DaemonFC; If you're not the village bicycle, there's like almost no chance of getting MonkeyPox.
06:37 matey; this happened with cuba gooding jr too
06:37 matey; who for all i know is guilty
06:37 matey; but the attorney was saying how these things play out back and forth
06:37 matey; nobody wins these things, everybody loses
06:38 phanes; this was a defamation case that Todd initiated against reichwein
06:38 phanes; for claiming that he was a rapist
06:38 matey; yeah the todd is first in todd v
06:38 matey; so its his
06:39 phanes; i had to update the url on that
06:39 phanes; there was a typo in the date
06:40 matey; Settled. Material terms of settlement placed on the record.
06:40 matey; do you know what the terms of settlement were
06:40 phanes; yeah
06:41 phanes; originally i thought it was thrown out for anti-slapp and mjg did not correct when discussing it
06:41 phanes; and he said that it was thrown out because it was protected speech
06:41 matey; i read that closely
06:41 phanes; but what actually happened was it was settled in exchange for reichwein posting as lovecruft to state that she was never raped by him
06:42 phanes; in terms of todd's statements on it, he claims that the process was expensive and was costing too much money, he was running out of money litigating the case and was open to settling to make it stop
06:42 matey; wow
06:42 matey; so it was both "thrown out" and "settled"
06:43 matey; somehow
06:43 phanes; no it was settled
06:43 phanes; mjg was just lying
06:43 matey; i got it
06:43 phanes; whether by omission or directly, i'll let him argue that into an empty grocery bag
06:44 matey; im interested in the rebuttal
06:44 phanes; "something something, im the real victim here"
06:44 matey; i doubt he would say that
06:44 phanes; not in those exact words
06:45 phanes; but he'll say it without saying it
06:46 phanes; '''Defendant Sarah Michelle Reichwein (Defendant), who goes by the
06:46 phanes; fictitious name Isis Agora Lovecruft, is a self-described anarchist; hacker; once-upon-atime theoretical physicist. Like Todd, Defendant regularly attends cryptography
06:46 phanes; conferences.'''
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06:46 matey; what are you quoting
06:46 phanes; the original filing for the case
06:46 matey; oh because todd wrote the wording
06:47 phanes; this is a statement from rosenfield (todd's attorney)
06:47 matey; hi britney
06:47 phanes; new word: domiciliary
06:48 phanes; what a great word
06:48 britney; hey matey
06:48 matey; of or related to the home?
06:48 phanes; https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Adomiciliary&oq=define%3Adomiciliary&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.1425j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
06:48 TR Bot; - Google Search
06:48 matey; Domiciliary Care for Homeless Veterans Program - VA Homeless Programs
06:48 matey; www.va.gov/homeless/dchv.asp
06:49 matey; /me shrugs
06:49 matey; Domiciliary care is care that is provided in the person's own home. Sometimes called "care at home" or "home care", domiciliary care is when a carer either visits you or lives in your own home, in order to be close at hand to support you. Domiciliary care can be appropriate if you require help with practical tasks or personal care but don't want to move to a care home.
06:49 matey; they used to just say home healthcare
06:50 matey; domiciliary just sounds more expensive, no wonder they switched
06:50 matey; "well, we do offer home healthcare, but for 500 dollars more per month, we also have a domiciliary care programme"
06:50 matey; "we want that one!"
06:51 matey; "the home healthcare one sounds cheap"
06:51 matey; they may have slightly different meanings-- i dont think they do however
06:51 matey; Domiciliary administration means the settlement and distribution of a decedent's estate in the state where the defendant was domiciled at death.
06:52 matey; its used for all kinds of contexts
06:52 matey; "housecalls"
06:52 matey; even with opthamalogy
06:53 matey; for example, if you were that guy that weighed 600 lbs
06:53 matey; and you needed glasses
06:53 matey; they might bring the eye doctor to you
06:55 matey; at least one website confirms its the same damned thing as "home care"
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06:59 matey; britney, where do you consider yourself on the political spectrum-- this is not an important question and you should ignore it if it pleases you
06:59 DaemonFC; I'm writing an article about MonkeyPox.
06:59 DaemonFC; And why I won't be getting the vaccine.
7 AM, July 24
07:03 phanes; "because I don't want to" should be a good enough reason tbh
07:04 phanes; i was required to when they did the federal mandate
07:06 *phanes puts on his G-man sunglasses and trims his G-man mustache so he'll look good in his G-man suit.
07:07 phanes; artist's depiction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Stark#/media/File:Howard_Stark_(Earth-616)_from_S.H.I.E.L.D._Vol_1_1_page_03.jpg
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07:07 TR Bot; Howard Stark - Wikipedia
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07:17 phanes; man this gets weirder the more i read it
07:17 matey; howso
07:18 matey; https://www.abuseonline.org/database/backlog/resources/ahahah.mp3
07:21 DaemonFC; Yeah, I don't feel I should need to explain myself to the doctor.
07:21 DaemonFC; Mandy will probably just come out and say "They gave me a shot." I'll say, "Why?". "Oh they said I needed one.".
07:21 DaemonFC; They get money for giving out shots, so everyone gets lots of shots.
07:22 DaemonFC; The Health Department is very patriarchal and condescending to their patients. They don't inform you of your right to decline "treatments" and they don't respect it if you assert yourself.
07:22 DaemonFC; They know if you had enough money, you would just go see a real doctor at an office with their name on the wall.
07:24 DaemonFC; I don't mean "literally controlled by men".
07:24 DaemonFC; What I mean is there's this "father knows best" mentality and "father" is the state.
07:24 DaemonFC; That's how Illinois is in general. It's the nanny state.
07:35 phanes; https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/controversial/Reichwein,%20Sarah%20Michelle/Todd_v_Reichweinn/2019-04-03_Rosenfeld/
07:35 TR Bot; TAODB
07:42 DaemonFC; I'm also working on a post about how bad the new Red Baron pizzas are.
07:43 DaemonFC; They used to be really good.
07:44 phanes; mjg59_, who is Sarah Filley?
07:45 mjg59_; matey: Of 4 claims Todd made, 3 were thrown out for being protected speech (including the claim that he was a rapist), and the remaining claim was partially thrown out
07:45 phanes; "partially thrown out"
07:45 phanes; anyway, can you use the last of your credibility to explain who sarah filley is
07:46 mjg59_; phanes: If you'd prefer "partially dismissed", you can say that instead
07:47 phanes; mjg59_, so no comment on sarah filley? these are opportunities for discretion so you might want to take advantage of them
07:47 mjg59_; I'm not familiar with the name
07:47 phanes; ok
07:47 phanes; "partially dismissed"
07:47 phanes; moving on
07:50 matey; <mjg59_> matey: Of 4 claims Todd made, 3 were thrown out for being protected speech (including the claim that he was a rapist), and the remaining claim was partially thrown out <- noted mjg
07:50 matey; thats a pretty good rebuttal, better than i anticipated
07:53 mjg59_; https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.340308/gov.uscourts.cand.340308.53.0.pdf is the relevant order
07:53 mjg59_; "For the foregoing reasons, Lovecrufts motion to strike is granted as to all four Statements
07:53 mjg59_; to the extent they implicate Lovecrufts accusations that Todd engaged in sexual misconduct against
07:53 mjg59_; someone other than Lovecruft, and as to the Second Statement to the extent it involves Lovecrufts
07:53 mjg59_; personal accusation against Todd. The motion is denied as to Lovecrufts personal accusation
07:53 mjg59_; against Todd in the Fourth Statement"
07:53 phanes; matey, also bear in mind what he's referring to is an anti-slapp measure that bypasses contest of material facts of the case and establishes a likelihood for perseverance if it went to trial, so "partially dismissed" is a pretty misleading descriptor there
07:54 DaemonFC; https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/article%3Fhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonpost.com%252Fbusiness%252F2022%252F07%252F22%252Fhyundai-child-labor-alabama%252F
07:54 TR Bot; Gemini Portal
07:54 DaemonFC; Hyundai and KIA found working children as young as 12 in their factories in Alabama.
07:57 matey; i DID feel mislead. a little more than usual.
07:57 matey; i do think he has a damned good rebuttal
07:57 matey; when this happens to columbo
07:57 matey; who i dont model myself after btw
07:57 matey; rather i take cues from everyone i like
07:58 matey; including columbo
07:58 phanes; yeah its clever, he is going to shift the litmus to judicial determinations in the case instead of the pattern of behaviour
07:58 matey; he just nods his head and walks off to think about it
07:58 matey; and thats what i do too
07:58 matey; in my experience, when i am dealing with ANY liar
07:58 matey; i find time to myself to be more reliable than hypervigilance
07:59 matey; the latter just makes you jumpy. sometimes jumpy is useful-- its just as often not
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07:59 matey; point being: these things take a bit of time to sort out
07:59 phanes; yep
07:59 matey; first impressions: damned good rebuttal
07:59 matey; later on: who knows
8 AM, July 24
08:00 matey; the low points for me were the stallman letter-- which ive spent years looking into (its a bunch of crap)
08:00 matey; and the tso entry, which i find extremely disapppointing, but not terribly surprising
08:00 phanes; only happened like a year ago bub
08:00 matey; the tso entry really gets me
08:00 phanes; yeah i haven't even started much on the tso entry
08:00 phanes; it looks painful
08:00 matey; i should be clearer about the stallman letter
08:00 matey; its a big part of the coup
08:01 matey; the coup has gone on for longer
08:01 matey; apart from that it feels like years, some of the claims in it ARE years old actually
08:01 matey; and on top of that theres a heatwave thats been robbing me of sleep this week
08:01 matey; not too much-- just enough
08:01 matey; so yeah, wait until august to get the stone tablets out
08:03 phanes; theyre not stone tables they're bricks, and my name might be Montresor
08:03 phanes; *tablets
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08:05 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fm-po_FUmvM
08:05 TR Bot; Bob Dylan - Rainy Day Women #12 & 35 (Official Audio) - Invidious
08:07 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mDTph7mer3I
08:07 TR Bot; Leonard Cohen - Anthem - Invidious
08:07 mjg59_; Also, https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.340308/gov.uscourts.cand.340308.31.1.pdf is the testimony that Todd raped someone (not merely sexually harassed them)
08:08 phanes; we'll get to that when it's up in the queue
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08:14 TR News; Top Data Structures That Every Programmer Must Know https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/top-data-structures-that-every-programmer-must-know/
08:14 TR Bot; Top Data Structures That Every Programmer Must Know - GeeksforGeeks
08:14 phanes; oh looks like there was some attempt to evade service
08:15 matey; evade service?
08:15 matey; oh
08:15 matey; military
08:16 phanes; no service of process
08:16 matey; dont know what that is
08:16 TR News; The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 135: Co-Chair Emily Laidlaw on the Work of the Governments Expert Advisory Group on Online Safety - Michael Geist https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/07/law-bytes-podcast-episode-135/ Source: michaelgeist | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/07/law-bytes-podcast-episode-135/
08:16 phanes; there's a time limit to serve the defendant in a trial
08:16 TR Bot; The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 135: Co-Chair Emily Laidlaw on the Work of the Government's Expert Advisory Group on Online Safety - Michael Geist
08:16 matey; oh that
08:16 matey; and so they avoided it possibly
08:16 phanes; what some folks do to try to get out of being sued is bounce around and obfuscate service address and ways of being found
08:17 matey; right
08:17 phanes; nothing says credible quite like constant action to avoid a material contest
08:18 TR News; LOL, "I engaged in a Twitter debate with Matthew Gray" https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/07/why-the-governments-policy-intentions-for-bill-c-11-dont-trump-the-actual-text/ Twitter is NOT a debate platform!!
08:18 TR Bot; Why The Government's "Policy Intentions" For Bill C-11 Don't Trump the Actual Text - Michael Geist
08:18 mjg59_; phanes: You have evidence that there was an attempt to evade service?
08:19 phanes; mjg59_, do you have evidence that you're conscious
08:19 mjg59_; Not that can be convincingly presented over this medium, no
08:19 mjg59_; But consciousness is a complicated topic, evading service isn't
08:20 mjg59_; Failing to find someone's address is not evidence of them evading service
08:20 phanes; its not a horribly relevant point to me if they did or did not, i just find it amusing and suspicious
08:20 TR News; Supreme Court of Canada on Copyright: "Copyright Law Does Not Exist Solely for the Benefit of Authors" - Michael Geist https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/07/supreme-court-of-canada-on-copyright-copyright-law-does-not-exist-solely-for-the-benefit-of-authors/ Source: michaelgeist
08:20 TR Bot; Supreme Court of Canada on Copyright: "Copyright Law Does Not Exist Solely for the Benefit of Authors" - Michael Geist
08:21 matey; consciousness is a complicated topic <- :)
08:22 TR News; "EARL is Europes largest R community event dedicated to showcasing commercial applications of the R language." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/why-this-is-the-year-you-should-take-the-stage-at-earl-2022/
08:22 TR Bot; this is the year you should take the stage at EARL 2022 | R-bloggers
08:22 phanes; man the houses in san fran are stupidly priced, i know how bad it is, but i still get shocked every time i see it
08:22 matey; i imagine in most contexts he would make that statement, thats a completely serious statement
08:23 matey; the way it was processed at a glance was as wry humour
08:23 mjg59_; Penrose spent ages claiming that consciousness was a quantum phenomenon, using microtubules in E. coli as an example to explain how they appeared to have memory to engage in chemotaxis
08:23 TR News; "To continue on the 80s tracks, I'll toss on "Don't You (Forget About Me)" by Simple Minds, and we can fill the parlor with hairspray and snap bubble gum in large, obnoxious bubbles when people try to grab our undivided attention." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1083
08:24 matey; sadly, i then thought of instances where it wouldnt be. it was funnier because i dont know if ive ever spotted mjg making a joke
08:24 phanes; matey, i want to see proof that he's not a complex stimulus response machine
08:24 mjg59_; Turns out that it's actually just an adaptive response curve in the receptor pathway
08:25 matey; "consciousness is actually just an adaptive response curve in the receptor pathway. change my mind."
08:25 TR News; "Were excited to announce that NIMBLE now supports automatic differentiation (AD), also known as algorithmic differentiation, in a beta version available on our website." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/beta-version-of-nimble-with-automatic-differentiation-including-hmc-sampling-and-laplace-approximation/
08:25 TR Bot; version of NIMBLE with automatic differentiation, including HMC sampling and Laplace approximation | R-bloggers
08:25 matey; that should make it a lot easier to simulate. when do teslas become self-aware?
08:25 matey; /me is not an ai expert. does not for one second pretend to be
08:26 phanes; matey, tesla's ARE known to self-immolate
08:26 matey; hell im not even a novice
08:26 matey; matey, tesla's ARE known to self-immolate <- i think the past few years, if nothing else, prove that activism does not require one to be fully self-aware
08:26 phanes; lol
08:26 matey; :)
08:28 matey; also ive tried initiating verbal commands to teslas before
08:28 matey; they might just be following orders
08:28 TR News; "Linux (Pop!_OS v20.04) was installed on it and has been the more trusty workhorse since. Audio is great, replaced the HDD with an SSD, the touch screen works excellently, the battery properly charges again, dual screen and multi-finger track-pad also works fine" https://www.ghacks.net/2022/07/23/you-may-now-buy-windows-11-licenses-directly-from-microsoft-but-shouldnt/
08:28 TR Bot; You may now buy Windows 11 licenses directly from Microsoft (but shouldn't) - gHacks Tech News
08:29 matey; i dont know if they even have mics. they might be able to read lips.
08:29 phanes; mjg59_, btw, around what year did you and the defendant in the todd case meet?
08:30 mjg59_; 2015, I think?
08:30 phanes; thanks
08:31 mjg59_; I think we'd possibly been in the same place on occasion before then, but I don't remember us communicating before 2015
08:34 phanes; mjg59_, so what do you think the impact was on ts'o after you defamed him?
08:35 TR News; Wayland Core Protocol is Tailored Only for GNOME and Thats Not a Good Thing [Opinion] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167585
08:35 schestowitz[TR2]; matey: ibm at it again, crippling gnu/linux by making it less modular
08:36 matey; maybe they can stuff every function into a single binary blob
08:36 TR Bot; Wayland Core Protocol is Tailored Only for GNOME and That's Not a Good Thing [Opinion] | Tux Machines
08:36 matey; linux.sys
08:36 matey; hell, who needs 8.3
08:36 matey; systemd-init.rd
08:37 TR News; Some final analysis and concluding words about the 12-part series regarding despicable attempts to create another patent bubble by artificially increasing grant rates in the area of algorithms/business methods http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/unsuitably-qualified-epo-management/
08:37 TR Bot; When Europes Largest Patent Office is Governed by Lawyers, Bankers, and Career-Climbing Opportunists Who Violate the European Patent Convention (EPC) for Them | Techrights
08:37 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167586
08:37 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
08:37 mjg59_; phanes: I disagree with the foundation of the question
08:37 matey; matey: ibm at it again, crippling gnu/linux by making it less modula <- its funny because
08:37 matey; on the one hand, knowing ibm, its completely plausible.
08:37 phanes; mjg59_, you don't think your false words hurt him in any way?
08:38 matey; on the other hand, when you said systemd is microsoft and "now its more obvious"
08:38 matey; you literally never came up with any specific reason it had changed or anything to justify the statement
08:38 mjg59_; phanes: I don't believe there were any false words
08:38 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167587
08:38 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
08:38 matey; so im like, "really? howso?"
08:38 matey; and i dont even expect a real answer
08:38 phanes; mjg59_, interesting, so, i mean, how do you feel those words impacted him though?
08:39 schestowitz[TR2]; matey: I all along said sceptical stuff about wayland
08:39 schestowitz[TR2]; if you saw who pushed that and on what premise
08:39 schestowitz[TR2]; we also klnow ICBM pushes GNOME
08:39 matey; fair enough
08:39 schestowitz[TR2]; and ties everything to it
08:39 schestowitz[TR2]; when ICBM bought Red Hat they quietly abannnndoned KDE
08:39 matey; i dont recall you ever being a wayland apologist.
08:39 mjg59_; phanes: I have literally no idea
08:39 phanes; mjg59_, never thought about it?
08:40 mjg59_; phanes: He was employed by Google beforehand, he's still employed by Google, so from a professional perspective my guess would be very little
08:40 phanes; mjg59_, can you recall a time when you caused emotional pain to someone either inadvertently or deliberately?
08:41 matey; /me personally thinks it helped to destroy any future the linux kernel had
08:41 matey; but its just an opinion
08:41 mjg59_; phanes: Oh, yes
08:41 TR News; OpenFlexure is an Open-source 3D-Printed Low-cost Microscope https://medevel.com/openflexure/
08:41 TR Bot; OpenFlexure is an Open-source 3D-Printed Low-cost Microscope
08:42 TR News; Microscope-PiCam: An Open-source Raspberry Pi Microscope https://medevel.com/microscope-picam/
08:42 TR Bot; Microscope-PiCam: An Open-source Raspberry Pi Microscope
08:42 phanes; mjg59_, got an example, or is this just a blanket "no i have done this, since im not a sociopath" kinda deal
08:43 TR News; "Lanchat is a free open-source messenger app for local network messaging (LAN), that works for Windows, Linux, and macOS. It features a built-in encryption, file transfer, automatic connection and terminal UI." https://medevel.com/lanchat-os-lan/
08:43 TR Bot; Lanchat: The Open-source LAN/ Local Network Messenger is No longer maintained
08:43 mjg59_; phanes: Nothing that I'm going to discuss publicly, no
08:43 phanes; if you'd like, i can offer you confidence in a private message dialog
08:43 phanes; since, not being a dirtbag, i dont leak pm'
08:43 mjg59_; You're not my therapist, so I'm going to pass on that
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08:44 phanes; i assumed as much, just wanted to watch you flop around a bit
08:45 phanes; low eq certainly, but, i can't rule out a full blown DSM-registered kind of situation
08:45 TR News; "I finally decided to continue a Ph.D. after working as a practitioner for several years. I followed that path to develop expertise in critical thinking, project management, and writing. To date, I find that Im awful at writing." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/leaving-a-phd-program/
08:45 TR Bot; a PhD Program | R-bloggers
08:46 TR News; How quickly can you convert floats to doubles (and back)? - Daniel Lemires blog https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/20/how-quickly-can-you-convert-floats-to-doubles-and-back/ Source: lemire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lemire.me/blog/2022/07/20/how-quickly-can-you-convert-floats-to-doubles-and-back/
08:46 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/20/how-quickly-can-you-convert-floats-to-doubles-and-back/ )
08:46 *phanes uses sed for that :P
08:47 TR News; Negative incentives in academic research - Daniel Lemires blog https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/21/negative-incentives-in-academic-research/ Source: lemire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lemire.me/blog/2022/07/21/negative-incentives-in-academic-research/
08:47 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/21/negative-incentives-in-academic-research/ )
08:49 phanes; and poof, just like that, scuttles back to the shadowy corner of the room to stare
08:52 matey; /me clicks on the backlog again, waiting for it to open to the public
08:52 matey; "letmein"
08:52 matey; "love"
08:52 matey; "god"
08:52 matey; "sesame"
08:53 phanes; bro are you running a john the ripper against a baptist church blog or something
08:53 matey; "genesis"
08:53 matey; no
08:53 matey; did you know that saying paswords out loud while clicking a link in a web browser DOESNT log you in?
08:53 matey; /me writes a patch
08:54 matey; in hackers they go over most common (stupid) passwords
08:55 matey; including "love" and "god" (the latter of which gets them into the mainframe)
08:55 matey; you know youre in the mainframe because it looks like a 3d animated postscript buffer overflow
08:55 matey; "this must be what einstein saw when he dropped acid"
08:55 phanes; whenever i hear "mainframe" i think of the shitty abomination called z/OS
08:56 matey; if i have to take acid AND study advanced calculus, thats too much effort to get high
08:56 matey; the mainframe is the computer thats so awesome fisher stevens can ride a skateboard through it
08:57 matey; i like that movie, even though its basically the technical equivalent of "smurfs"
08:58 matey; ive never tried the simulating a rotary dial with the cradle switch though, and ive always wanted to
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
08:59 matey; before they finally scrap pots for the copper
9 AM, July 24
09:00 TR News; "For a long time, Linux has perhaps been in a transition from the venerable iptables" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/NFTablesInoffensive | Source: uni Toronto
09:00 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/NFTablesInoffensive
09:00 TR News; "Fortunately, with the correct combination of flags, this is actually achievable." https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-07-23-openbsd-sshfs.html | Source: Data Swamp
09:01 TR Bot; Solene'% : How to use sshfs on OpenBSD
09:01 phanes; https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.340308/gov.uscourts.cand.340308.20.0.pdf
09:01 TR News; "Docking stations come in many forms with many different purposes" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/22/converting-a-commodore-pet-into-a-usb-docking-station/ | Source: Arduino
09:01 TR Bot; Converting a Commodore PET into a USB docking station | Arduino Blog
09:01 TR News; "Thus, the all-SSD high-performance edit NASon a budget." https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/building-fast-all-ssd-nas-on-budget | Source: Jeff Geerling
09:01 TR Bot; Building a fast all-SSD NAS (on a budget) | Jeff Geerling
09:02 TR News; "Modern web services build their entire businesses on being available and their customers come to expect it." https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-20-the-modern-web-s-many-single-points-of-failure.html | Source: Bjrn Wrmedal
09:02 TR Bot; The Modern Web's Many Single Points of Failure - Bjrn Wrmedal
09:03 TR News; "The ICFP Programming Competition is an international programming competition" https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-to-prepare-for-icfp-or-international-conference-for-functional-programming/ | Source: Geeks For Geeks
09:03 TR Bot; How to prepare for ICFP or International Conference on Functional Programming? - GeeksforGeeks
09:03 TR News; "Live streaming: Keynotes and talks will be livestreamed on the rstudio::conf website" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/join-rstudioconf2022-virtually/ | Source: Rlang
09:03 TR Bot; rstudio::conf(2022) Virtually | R-bloggers
09:03 TR News; "CHERITech22 is free; PLISS does have a registration fee" https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/cheritech_and_pliss.html | Source: Lawrence Tratt
09:03 TR Bot; communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s). ( status 0 @ https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/cheritech_and_pliss.html )
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09:05 TR News; "In this blog post, we will perform a deep analysis into GootLoader" https://blog.nviso.eu/2022/07/20/analysis-of-a-trojanized-jquery-script-gootloader-unleashed/ | Source: NVISO Labs
09:05 TR Bot; Analysis of a trojanized jQuery script: GootLoader unleashed NVISO Labs
09:05 *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights
09:05 TR News; "The XML is a metafile which represents three different actual files." https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/on-metafiles/ | Source: Buttondown
09:05 TR Bot; On Metafiles Buttondown
09:07 TR News; "Despite its pervasiveness, the technology is still prone to headache-inducing issues" https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/10/tech/bluetooth-technology-headache/index.html | Source: CNN
09:07 TR Bot; Why Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades - CNN
09:08 TR News; "Well, turns out it's not quite as arbitrary as it may seem." https://www.netmeister.org/blog/dns-size.html | Source: Jan Schaumann
09:08 TR Bot; DNS Response Size
09:08 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, July 23, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/24/irc-log-230722/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/24/irc-log-230722/
09:09 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, July 23, 2022 | Techrights
09:10 matey; http://techrights.org/2020/07/13/rex-dieter-bans-kevin-kofler/
09:10 TR Bot; Theres Apparently a New Boss (or Policy) at Red Hat/IBM | Techrights
09:13 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ocw90W44Boc
09:13 TR Bot; Scientology - What are your crimes? - Invidious
09:14 phanes; matey, that's interesting news about kofler.
09:14 matey; i honestly assumed you were aware of it already
09:14 phanes; matey, in all fairness he kind of had it coming. so does ben cotten. they both needed replaced because they turn too many blind eyes to what happens in those communities.
09:14 matey; however, theres so much of this shit
09:14 matey; i personally cant keep track of it all
09:15 phanes; matey, im more confused that this isn't about ben cotton than that it's about kevin kofler tbh
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09:16 matey; i read the tweet about kofler from the link you provided
09:16 matey; then i was trying to figure out why the name was familiar
09:16 matey; i read the 2020 page at the link i just provided, in 2020
09:16 matey; so clearly his ban was the reason i know the name
09:16 phanes; matey, yep he was recently targeted by mjg59_ in a TAODB listed entry
09:17 matey; i dont know the context of that-- but i presume the two are one in the same
09:17 TR News; 12 minutes with a City shirt, already a goal for Haaland https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/bayern-munich-v-manchester-city-extended-highlights-63794225
09:17 TR Bot; Bayern Munich 0-1 City: Extended highlights
09:17 matey; cancel culture is a cult tactic
09:18 phanes; matey, i haven't done the writeup yet: https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/2022-07-08/
09:18 TR Bot; TAODB
09:18 matey; its one thing when its honest
09:18 matey; when the motivations and accusations are honest
09:18 matey; when its weaponised it usually isnt honest
09:19 phanes; kevin actually wasn't a particularly toxic person, he just had horseblinders on when it came to the issues i harp about
09:19 matey; its pretty difficult to say "youre abusing honesty as a weapon"
09:20 matey; though fake honesty is more than common
09:21 matey; i haven't done the writeup yet <- yeah, this is what i was referring to when i said "i read the tweet about kofler from the link you provided"
09:21 matey; im more confused that this isn't about ben cotton <- coup
09:22 matey; the thing about kevin kofler is i dont know anything about him except that he was banned
09:22 matey; and i guess hes a kde guy
09:22 matey; which was inevitable i guess, when your name is "kevin kofler"
09:23 matey; maybe they decided to go zero tolerance on "kde kevin kofler"
09:24 matey; lwn.net/Articles/387013/
09:24 matey; Kevin Kofler's open letter about why he was not going to run again for a seat on the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) was the starting point of the problem thread. But the focus of the discussion was mostly on the update process for Fedora, something which has been roiling the Fedora waters for several months now.
09:25 phanes; do you have a link to that open letter
09:26 TR News; "The recipe is simple, but quite effective." https://batsov.com/articles/2022/07/21/dealing-with-unwanted-email/ | Source: Bozhidar Batsov
09:26 TR Bot; Dealing with Unwanted Email - (think)
09:27 matey; i can try to find it
09:27 TR News; "Prior to 1960, there was hardly any formal research funding competitions" https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/21/negative-incentives-in-academic-research/ | Source: Daniel Lemire
09:27 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/21/negative-incentives-in-academic-research/ )
09:28 TR News; "Makers Lab will focus on the effect of quantum on image optimisation for satellites etc" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/strategy-and-management/techm-mahindra-university-to-set-up-lab-for-metaverse-quantum-computing/93083802 | Source: India Times
09:28 TR Bot; quantum: TechM, Mahindra University to set up lab for Metaverse, quantum computing, CIO News, ET CIO
09:28 TR News; "Automotive chip order times remain long around the world" https://www.voanews.com/a/how-china-became-ground-zero-for-the-auto-chip-shortage-/6670710.html | Source: VOA News
09:28 TR Bot; How China Became Ground Zero for the Auto Chip Shortage
09:29 matey; phanes: https://lwn.net/Articles/387330/ <- the open letter
09:29 TR Bot; Letter: Why I, Kevin Kofler, am not rerunning for FESCo [LWN.net]
09:29 matey; Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 02:20:51 +0200
09:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:30 matey; Basically any proposal I filed was systematically shot down. Even things
09:30 matey; which should be obvious such as:
09:30 matey; . calling GNOME by its name rather than the generic "Desktop" or
09:30 matey; . eliminating the useless bureaucratic red tape of FESCo ratification for
09:30 matey; FPC guidelines which just wastes everyone's time and constitutes pure
09:30 matey; process inefficiency
09:30 matey; got only incomprehension.
09:30 matey; I have come to the conclusion that it is just plain impossible for a single
09:30 matey; person to change FESCo's ways and that therefore I am just wasting my time
09:30 matey; there.
09:30 matey; i dont plan to post the whole thing
09:30 schestowitz[TR2]; koffler: http://techrights.org/2020/07/13/rex-dieter-bans-kevin-kofler/
09:30 TR Bot; Theres Apparently a New Boss (or Policy) at Red Hat/IBM | Techrights
09:30 matey; already posted that url
09:31 matey; 08:10 <matey> http://techrights.org/2020/07/13/rex-dieter-bans-kevin-kofler/
09:31 matey; still wonder why he was banned
09:31 schestowitz[TR2]; "- Basically any proposal I filed was systematically shot down. Even things
09:31 schestowitz[TR2]; which should be obvious such as:
09:31 schestowitz[TR2]; . calling GNOME by its name rather than the generic "Desktop" or
09:31 schestowitz[TR2]; . eliminating the useless bureaucratic red tape of FESCo ratification for
09:31 schestowitz[TR2]; FPC guidelines which just wastes everyone's time and constitutes pure
09:31 schestowitz[TR2]; process inefficiency
09:31 schestowitz[TR2]; got only incomprehension."
09:31 matey; the open letter is from a decade prior
09:31 schestowitz[TR2]; matey: daemon knows more
09:31 schestowitz[TR2]; he said he had criticise come corporations
09:32 schestowitz[TR2]; ONLY RED HAT STAFF CAN DO THIS
09:32 schestowitz[TR2]; like bashing []sic] NVIDIA
09:32 matey; If you would like a KDE SIG
09:32 matey; person in FESCo, vote for Steven M. Parrish (and vote for Rex Dieter for the
09:32 matey; Board).
09:33 schestowitz[TR2]; "vote for Steven M. Parrish (and vote for Rex Dieter for the
09:33 schestowitz[TR2]; Board)"
09:33 matey; so he suggested people elect (in 2010) the same person who banned him (in 2020)
09:33 schestowitz[TR2]; oh
09:33 schestowitz[TR2]; you noticed the sae!!
09:33 schestowitz[TR2]; I was about the quote that too
09:33 schestowitz[TR2]; he tried to open support tickets
09:33 schestowitz[TR2]; to get unbanned
09:33 schestowitz[TR2]; i mailed him
09:34 schestowitz[TR2]; he did not reply
09:34 matey; Common sense is just generally lacking, see e.g. the decision that the GNOME
09:34 matey; spin should continue being called "Desktop Spin", despite evidence that this
09:34 matey; is confusing many users
09:34 matey; this is what i did when esr got banned
09:34 matey; i tried to find what pissed people off so much
09:34 TR News; "The researchers behind the "pioneering" Luxembourgish study" https://today.rtl.lu/news/luxembourg/a/1945290.html | Source: RTL
09:34 TR Bot; RTL Today - Luxembourg Institute of Health: Researchers find up to 88 different pollutants in children's hair
09:34 matey; of course today i would just say "i mean, its esr"
09:34 TR News; "Healthy" censorship https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/youtube-says-it-will-remove-videos-showing-abortion-misinformation-1235184856/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter
09:34 TR Bot; YouTube Says It Will Remove Videos Showing Abortion Misinformation The Hollywood Reporter
09:34 matey; but at the time i was really curious
09:35 matey; banning founders is USUALLY silly
09:35 matey; even banning esr is probably silly
09:35 schestowitz[TR2]; he got marked
09:35 schestowitz[TR2]; like preining
09:35 schestowitz[TR2]; then they just needed some grounds
09:35 schestowitz[TR2]; to make it seem like a legit grievance
09:36 matey; All the power in Fedora is being centralized into 2 major committees: the
09:36 matey; Board and FESCo. FESCo is responsible for a lot of things all taking up
09:36 matey; meeting time, leading to lengthy meetings and little time for discussion.
09:36 matey; Many of those things could be handled better in a more decentralized way.
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09:36 TR News; Gulag sent him to the gulag https://www.dawn.com/news/1701162/google-fires-software-engineer-who-claimed-its-ai-chatbot-is-sentient | Source: Dawn Media
09:36 TR Bot; fires software engineer who claimed its AI chatbot is sentient - Tech - DAWN.COM
09:36 matey; Maintainers are continuously being distrusted. It all started with the
09:36 matey; provenpackager policy, where every single provenpackager has to be voted in
09:36 matey; by a FESCo majority vote, as opposed to letting any sponsor approve people
09:36 matey; as provenpackagers as originally planned, or just opening all our packages
09:36 matey; to everyone as was the case in the old Extras
09:36 matey; yeah really, fuck this guy
09:36 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/albania-resumes-public-online-services-probes-cyberattack/93072157 | Source: India Times
09:36 TR Bot; Albania resumes public online services, probes cyberattack, CIO News, ET CIO
09:36 matey; making suggestions-- who does that
09:37 matey; saying where bottlenecks exist
09:37 matey; having the nerve to say bureacracy is stubborn and unhelpful
09:37 matey; LETS GET HIM
09:37 matey; though im sure im missing something here
09:38 TR News; Surveillance with fonts https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/teamviewer-font-privacy.html | Source: Daniel Aleksandersen
09:38 TR Bot; TeamViewer installs suspicious font only useful for web fingerprinting | Ctrl blog
09:38 matey; ROFL
09:38 matey; the policy for overzealous hall monitors in fedora
09:38 matey; is ACTUALLY CALLED the "hall monitor policy"
09:38 TR News; Surveillance of medical data... by Bezos https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/strategy-and-management/amazon-spending-3-9-bn-in-expanding-health-care-push/93065822 | Source: India Times
09:38 TR Bot; amazon: Amazon spending $3.9 bn in expanding health care push, CIO News, ET CIO
09:39 matey; i guess calling it the busybody douchebag policy sounded unprofessional
09:40 TR News; Bill Gates propaganda network 'guardian': "A recent article in The Guardian parroted evidence-free allegations that The Grayzones Aaron Mat is "the most prolific spreader of disinformation" about Syria among a "network" of "conspiracy theorists."" https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/23/video-aaron-mate-challenges-guardian-on-syria/ | Source: Scheerpost
09:40 TR Bot; Aaron Mat Challenges Guardian on Syria scheerpost.com
09:41 matey; Vidal quoted a blanket provision in the policy that allows thread closure posts for ""aggressive or problematic mailing list threads"" as the reason the action was taken. That didn't sit well with a number of folks. Kofler complained: ""This vague paragraph can be abused to justify censoring pretty much everything.""
09:41 TR News; Rockchip https://linuxgizmos.com/banana-pi-router-dev-board-is-equipped-with-rockchip-rk3588-dual-gbe-and-8gb-ram/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
09:41 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/banana-pi-router-dev-board-is-equipped-with-rockchip-rk3588-dual-gbe-and-8gb-ram/ )
09:41 TR News; "This is the seventh part of Calc Basics and in this chance we will learn about VLOOKUP formula." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/07/libreoffice-calc-basics-vii-vlookup.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
09:41 TR Bot; LibreOffice Calc Basics VII: VLOOKUP
09:42 TR News; "Russia's entire cinema industry is on the brink of collapse." https://torrentfreak.com/127-russian-cinemas-resort-to-piracy-movie-boss-says-i-dont-blame-them-220723/ | Source: Torrent Freak
09:42 TR Bot; Russian Cinemas Resort to Piracy, Movie Boss Says: "I Don't Blame Them" * TorrentFreak
09:42 matey; McGrath is firmly in the camp that Fedora should first decide what it is and what its goals are, and then ask those who are ""chronically unhappy"" with that direction to leave the project. That would lead to less contentious mailing list threads among other things. It's a hard problem, he said, and ""we don't want everyone who's unhappy with Fedora to leave""
09:42 matey; https://lwn.net/Articles/387013/
09:42 TR Bot; hall monitors and slippery slopes [LWN.net]
09:43 matey; While the goals of the hall monitor policy are generally good, it isn't clear that making decisions on specific threads to try to stop discussions getting "out of hand" is a good way forward. It is something of a "slippery slope". There are too many fine lines that need to be drawnand then challenged by dissentersthat it may just be an exercise in futility.
09:44 matey; For the current problem thread, at least, the real underlying issues have yet to be completely addressed. As Fedora moves toward implementing the new packaging rules, which may slow down the usual Fedora update stream, the decline in users and contributors that Kofler envisions may occur.
09:44 matey; including kofler i guess
09:44 TR News; Software Patents: "Mr. Bessen then got in touch with his former roommate at Harvard University, Eric Maskin, who had become an economics professor at their alma mater." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/21/business/software-james-bessen-book.html | Source: New York Times
09:44 TR Bot; How Software Is Stifling Competition and Slowing Innovation - The New York Times
09:44 TR News; Patents https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/song-dance-usmca-news-conferences/ | Source: Mexico News Daily
09:44 TR Bot; A song to dance the USMCA: the week's news conferences
09:45 phanes; shit it's almost 5am
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09:46 matey; its 5am somewhere
09:49 matey; grenada, apparently
09:49 matey; nearly 6
09:49 schestowitz[TR2]; boston area..
09:50 matey; nearly 5
09:50 schestowitz[TR2]; ET
09:50 matey; but in grenada its already 5
09:51 phanes; """...move the Court to strike Plaintiff Peter Todds (Todd) complaint pursuant to Californias anti-SLAPP statute...complaint should be stricken because the sole cause of action, for defamation, raises a matter of public concern, and Todd cannot produce evidence sufficient to meet his burden under section 425.16 of the California Code of Civil Procedure"""
09:51 matey; here is where its already 5am
09:51 TR News; Sandbag and Zuckerface attacked democracy, profited from it https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/22/23274364/mark-zuckerberg-sheryl-sandberg-deposed-cambridge-analytica-meta-leadership-facebook | Source: The Verge
09:51 TR Bot; Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg are set to be deposed about Cambridge Analytica - The Verge
09:51 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UTC_time_offsets#UTC%E2%88%9204:00,_Q
09:51 TR Bot; List of UTC offsets - Wikipedia
09:52 phanes; this defense doesn't rest on grounds of truth but abuse of anti-slapp precedents and "can't prove it bub"
09:54 TR News; "Caledonian Sleeper did in fact let passengers know the service was cancelled" https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/1945317.html "tweeting at seven minutes"... TWITTER IS NOT A COMMUNICATION PLATFORM, it's a Saudi-owned censorship machine
09:54 TR Bot; RTL Today - Scotland: Man spends night on sleeper train, wakes to find it never left the station
09:54 TR News; "Alan MacLeod, who published a piece last week about ex-CIA agents working at Facebook" https://thehill.com/hilltv/3566225-reporter-facebook-using-ex-cia-to-decide-misinformation-policy-is-very-very-worrying/ | Source: The Hill
09:54 TR Bot; Reporter: Facebook using ex-CIA to decide misinformation policy is very, very worrying | The Hill
09:55 matey; /me doesnt know if roy gets the reference (probably)
09:55 TR News; ">In previous investigations, this author has detailed how TikTok is flooded with NATO officials" https://www.mintpressnews.com/meet-ex-cia-agents-deciding-facebook-content-policy/281307/ | Source: Mint Press News
09:55 TR Bot; Meet the Ex-CIA Agents Deciding Facebook's Content Policy
09:55 TR News; "American Data Privacy and Protection Act" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/07/positive-and-negative-responses-to-committees-action-on-american-data-privacy-and-protection-act/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast
09:55 TR Bot; Positive and Negative Responses to Committee's Action on American Data Privacy and Protection Act : Broadband Breakfast
09:55 matey; theres a song (and im sure a phrase that predates it) that goes "its 5 oclock somewhere"
09:56 schestowitz[TR2]; i didn't know
09:56 schestowitz[TR2]; camp grenada I know...
09:56 matey; meaning that non-drunks dont go to get drunk until 5pm or something
09:56 schestowitz[TR2]; there's thaqt too
09:56 matey; or, that youre still at work
09:56 schestowitz[TR2]; same artist
09:56 schestowitz[TR2]; camp grenada
09:56 schestowitz[TR2]; and drinking man's diet
09:56 matey; camp grenada is older
09:56 schestowitz[TR2]; boose in the cereal
09:57 matey; this is jimmy buffet and alan jackson, i think
09:57 schestowitz[TR2]; I have those on disk
09:57 schestowitz[TR2]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4yFTOvO0utY
09:57 TR Bot; Hello Muddah, Hello Fadduh (Camp Granada Song) with Lyrics Sing-Along, Allan Sherman, 1963, updated - Invidious
09:57 schestowitz[TR2]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KRJ02VB5Evk
09:57 TR Bot; Allan Sherman - The Drinking Man's Diet (1965) - Invidious
09:58 TR News; "Since the unlawful processing of personal data for political advertising" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/new-rules-on-political-advertising-to-stop-voter-manipulation/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
09:58 TR Bot; New Rules on political advertising to stop voter manipulation! Patrick Breyer
09:59 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.securityweek.com/understanding-evolution-cybercrime-predict-its-future | Source: Security Week
09:59 TR Bot; the Evolution of Cybercrime to Predict its Future | SecurityWeek.Com
09:59 matey; incidentally i abhor country music as a genre
09:59 matey; i think jimmy buffet is lovely but i dont generally consider him "country music"
09:59 phanes; leave the jimmy, take the warren
09:59 schestowitz[TR2]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nLcX3efy1YQ
09:59 matey; not all southern musicians are country music artists. hes from alabama i think
09:59 TR Bot; Headaches - Invidious
09:59 schestowitz[TR2]; his voice is terrible btw
09:59 phanes; </italian accent>
10 AM, July 24
10:00 matey; what does warren buffet sing
10:00 matey; /me bets a canole can sing better than warren buffet
10:00 phanes; matey, the money song
10:00 schestowitz[TR2]; gates was into "my way"
10:00 schestowitz[TR2]; his way
10:00 schestowitz[TR2]; flying with epstein
10:00 schestowitz[TR2]; in the lolita express
10:00 schestowitz[TR2]; there was an article about how he was into that song
10:00 matey; /me imagines warren buffet singing "money money money, money! MONNNEEEYYY!"
10:01 schestowitz[TR2]; I guess his way and his thinking... he doesn't think like the rest of us
10:01 TR News; "The award extends the ANES, a widely used research data series at the U-M Institute for Social Research" https://record.umich.edu/articles/u-m-research-data-series-awarded-14m-to-study-2024-elections/ | Source: uni Michigan
10:01 TR Bot; U-M research data series awarded $14M to study 2024 elections | The University Record
10:02 TR News; National Science Foundation (NSF) https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/18/national-science-foundation-awards-14-million-grant-for-the-study-of-national-2024-election/ | Source: Forbes
10:02 matey; "you sang a song called 'my way' but someone else wrote it" epic rap battles of history: freddie mercury vs frank sinatra
10:02 TR Bot; National Science Foundation Awards $14 Million Grant For The Study Of National 2024 Election
10:02 TR News; "The Accountable Institutions and Behavior Program in the Directorate for Social" https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2021/nsf21601/nsf21601.htm |
10:02 TR Bot; 2024 American National Election Study Competition (ANES) (nsf21601) | NSF - National Science Foundation
10:02 schestowitz[TR2]; matey: real one?
10:02 matey; "easy, jaws of life, i cant stand a racist! i love the coloreds and the queers, just ask sammy davis!"
10:02 schestowitz[TR2]; I did not see it
10:03 matey; no, erb is epic lloyd and nicepeter
10:04 TR News; "Linux myths have been floating around on the [Internet] for a very long time." https://www.makeuseof.com/linux-myths-debunked/ | Source: Make Use Of
10:04 TR Bot; 7 Myths About Linux That You Should Stop Believing
10:06 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=99-n42Xb6NQ
10:06 TR Bot; Gordon Ramsay vs Julia Child. Epic Rap Battles of History - Invidious
10:07 TR News; I see that clickfraud spamnil has taken the fraud up another notch. Linux Foundation subsides fraud.
10:10 TR News; Narendra Modi, puppet of Bill Gates and other high-profile criminals https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/scholars-reprimanded-universities-criticising-indian-government | Source: Times Higher Education
10:10 TR Bot; Indian scholars report intimidation and harassment | Times Higher Education (THE)
10:12 TR News; </li>
10:12 TR News; Linux Foundation defrauds people. It damages the "Linux" brand. http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/lf-defrauding-clients/
10:12 TR Bot; New Lows: Linux Foundation Defrauding Clients | Techrights
10:13 TR News; "[...] work being sabotaged last one year" https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/harassed-and-targeted-tanushree-dutta-says-she-will-not-resort-to-suicide-but-will-fight/articleshow/93000060.cms | Source: India Times
10:13 TR Bot; Harassed and targeted Tanushree Dutta says she will not resort to suicide but will fight | Hindi Movie News - Times of India
10:13 TR News; "actress Tanushree Dutta has spoken out yet again about being harassed by #metoo perpetrators." https://www.wionews.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-tanushree-dutta-claims-harassment-by-bollywood-mafia-in-an-instagram-post-says-will-not-commit-suicide-499162 | Source: Essel Group
10:13 TR Bot; Tanushree Dutta claims 'harassment by Bollywood mafia' in an Instagram post, says 'will not commit suicide' - Entertainment News
10:14 TR News; "Tweet an apology or go to jail" https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/foreign-journalist-lynne-donnell-article-apology-taliban-afghanistan-tweet-1977948-2022-07-20 | Source: India Today
10:14 TR Bot; 'Tweet apology or go to jail': Foreign journo says she was threatened by Taliban - World News
10:14 matey; distro is to free software as internet explorer is to windows
10:14 TR News; [Old] "IWMF announces Courage in Journalism Awards. Women journalists from Ukraine..." https://www.morningstar.com/news/pr-newswire/20220627dc99832/iwmf-announces-2022-courage-in-journalism-award-winners | Source: Morningstar US
10:14 TR Bot; Announces 2022 Courage in Journalism Award Winners | Morningstar
10:17 TR News; IBASE... Back doors again: "A few days ago, IBASE unveiled an ATX motherboard debuting the 12th Gen Intel Core processors." https://linuxgizmos.com/atx-board-integrates-12th-gen-intel-processors-dual-2-5gbe-quad-displays-and-5g-lte-support/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
10:17 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/atx-board-integrates-12th-gen-intel-processors-dual-2-5gbe-quad-displays-and-5g-lte-support/ )
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10:22 TR News; Viral Video: Goat Cries and Hugs Owner as He Sells It to Butcher For Bakra Eid. Watch https://www.india.com/viral/viral-video-goat-cries-hugs-owner-as-he-sells-it-for-sacrifice-on-bakra-eid-bakrid-bakre-5517869/
10:22 TR Bot; Viral Video: Goat Cries and Hugs Owner as He Sells It to Butcher For Bakra Eid. Watch
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10:23 TR News; iophk: a tweet is not a substitute for service notification https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/1945317.html
10:23 TR Bot; RTL Today - Scotland: Man spends night on sleeper train, wakes to find it never left the station
10:24 TR News; iophk: the press is still helping Microsoft conflate attacks with successful breaches
10:25 TR News; "mjg already killed linux anyway" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-220722.html#tJul%2022%2008:12:48
10:26 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, July 22, 2022
10:26 TR News; "You can deal with Security Theater Boot by turning it off in the firmware setup and then never worrying about it fucking up your system again." ... for now ... http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-220722.html#tJul%2022%2008:16:44
10:26 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, July 22, 2022
10:27 TR News; "linus torvalds said he uses webmail now" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-220722.html#tJul%2022%2022:39:56 iophk: :( :( :( no wonder he can't get work done
10:27 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, July 22, 2022
10:29 TR News; Murderers running the world. Hey, how's Jamal Khashoggi? "Well, he's dead..." https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet-of-things/saudi-crown-prince-to-visit-greece-to-sign-energy-telecoms-deals/93069648
10:29 TR Bot; Saudi crown prince to visit Greece to sign energy, telecoms deals, CIO News, ET CIO
10:31 TR News; Starbucks https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/23/historic-moment-american-labor-starbucks-workers-notch-200th-union-win | Source: Common Dreams
10:31 TR Bot; 'Historic Moment in American Labor': Starbucks Workers Notch 200th Union Win
10:32 schestowitz[TR2]; matey: can you elaboate?
10:32 schestowitz[TR2]; windows is an OS
10:32 schestowitz[TR2]; free software is a concept
10:32 schestowitz[TR2]; distro is a an OS
10:33 schestowitz[TR2]; IE is malware
10:33 schestowitz[TR2]; so I don't get the analogy, in that order
10:33 schestowitz[TR2]; unless:
10:33 schestowitz[TR2]; distro is to free software
10:33 matey; internet explorer is the shit you cant remove from windows
10:33 schestowitz[TR2]; is freedom to free software
10:33 matey; so is everything else for the most part
10:33 schestowitz[TR2]; and at Microsoft, malware it to malwareOS
10:33 matey; a distro is the shit you cant remove from free software
10:34 matey; in theory this is completely untrue of course
10:34 matey; you can remove basically anything
10:34 schestowitz[TR2]; yeah
10:34 matey; in practice... less so
10:34 schestowitz[TR2]; or roll out your own
10:34 matey; getting harder and harder to do, thats the point
10:34 schestowitz[TR2]; or reuse existing prototypes
10:34 matey; distro = bundling
10:34 schestowitz[TR2]; some do not have wayland, pulseaudio, microsoft systemd
10:34 matey; the harder they make it to unbundle, the more its like internet explorer in windows
10:35 matey; distros dont technically have to bundle anything
10:35 matey; they usually do
10:35 matey; they dont have to make it harder to unbundle
10:35 matey; but its a big trend
10:36 matey; and its not just the distros fault (but sometimes it is)
10:36 matey; software can be designed that way-- for example, systemd is like that no matter what distro you use, almost
10:36 matey; but thats the thing
10:37 matey; systemd is a distro disguised as a component (or components) of a distro
10:37 matey; its basically the beginning of an os
10:37 matey; who knows what basic features it will suck up next
10:38 matey; dns, home folders, firewall, emulator
10:38 matey; whatever ibm wants
10:38 matey; if you look at some of the shit putin has rolled out
10:38 matey; and you look at systemd
10:38 matey; its almost like the gnu replacement putin built
10:39 matey; this being a sidepoint, albeit a funny one
10:39 matey; its kind of a mr potato head design
10:40 matey; you have this giant unweilding thing
10:40 matey; then you poke a bunch of other unwieldy things into it
10:40 matey; to make a sort of monster/toy/whatever the fuck it is
10:41 matey; but all of it is designed to take over something it has no business invading
10:42 matey; i would prefer if distros were so modular you could just mix and match them
10:42 matey; im aware of technical reasons why thats either difficult or impossible
10:42 matey; but thats the level of modularity we would be seeking. instead, every distro wants to be the "boss"
10:43 matey; to be sure, a lot of it is incidental, de facto, even hard to get past if you want to
10:43 matey; used to be installers were mostly distro specific
10:43 matey; thats changed, theyre becoming more generic
10:43 matey; debian using ubuntus installer, many distros using a 3rd party installer
10:43 matey; refracta-tools is another example
10:44 matey; rather refracta installer
10:44 matey; package managers used to be distro specific-- still are, mostly
10:44 matey; guix is an exception. i dont like it, wouldnt use it, but we need to think about that as a concept
10:45 matey; guix is a 3rd party package manager for more than one distro
10:45 matey; now, what if you could build a "distro" solely out of 3rd party components?
10:45 matey; that would be amazing
10:46 matey; its like it wouldnt even be a distro
10:46 matey; in the sense of a distro being a central point of bundling
10:46 matey; the evils of debian would not exist
10:46 matey; things like systemd might
10:46 matey; this wouldnt cure all ills
10:46 matey; it would cure one ill
10:46 matey; others would still exist
10:47 matey; im not even saying that in a world like that, no one should ever build an old-fashioned "integrated" distro
10:47 matey; only that if we had the option of putting together our own from 3rd party components
10:47 TR News; Starbucks https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-workers-officially-reach-200-union-election-victories/ | Source: TruthOut
10:47 TR Bot; Starbucks Workers Officially Reach 200 Union Election Victories
10:47 matey; ready to install, using some tool to bake those things into an image...
10:48 TR News; "Newborn babies can be tricky to figure out, especially for first-time parents." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/23/machine-learning-baby-monitor-prevents-the-hunger-games/ | Source: Hackaday
10:48 TR Bot; Learning Baby Monitor Prevents The Hunger Games | Hackaday
10:48 matey; thats way better than a committee telling you sorry, thats not available for debian anymore because we just dont like it and fuck what users want
10:48 matey; the distro is a bottleneck for users controlling their computing
10:48 TR News; <li>
10:48 matey; it limits what they can do
10:48 TR News; Patents https://hackaday.com/2022/07/23/patents-and-the-missing-museum/ | Source: Hackaday
10:49 TR Bot; And The Missing Museum | Hackaday
10:49 matey; and for most of its history that was de facto and more innocent
10:49 matey; now its by design more and more
10:49 matey; either way-- its something worth fixing imo
10:49 matey; the best part is, it means instead of distro maintainers doing all the work
10:49 matey; each software developer does a piece of something
10:50 matey; theres no need for a "big distro" in theory
10:50 matey; easier said than done? sure. probably take 15 years? who knows
10:50 matey; a direction worth going in for free software? probably
10:50 matey; even if it took 25 years
10:50 matey; less distro. more software.
10:51 matey; and for these intents and purposes, systemd is absolutely a distro
10:51 matey; you want to be able to swap things out
10:51 matey; systemd really isnt like that
10:52 matey; i am stretching the meaning of the word a bit to explain this
10:52 matey; the idea still works if you define distro properly / conventionally
10:52 matey; only then it takes longer to explain the concept
10:53 matey; for the most part, when i say distro i mean exactly what everyone else means when they say distro
10:54 TR News; "SongBird turntable" https://hackaday.com/2022/07/23/is-3d-printing-up-to-a-turntable/ | Source: Hackaday
10:54 TR Bot; 3D Printing Up To A Turntable? | Hackaday
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10:59 TR News; Amid inflation https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/23/right-wing-judge-bars-18-minimum-wage-californias-2022-ballot | Source: Common Dreams
10:59 TR Bot; Right-Wing Judge Bars $18 Minimum Wage From California's 2022 Ballot
11 AM, July 24
11:02 TR News; "Perhaps the weakest point in modern electronics when it comes to user servicability is the lifecycle of the batteries" https://hackaday.com/2022/07/23/adding-a-battery-to-extend-speaker-life/ | Source: Hackaday
11:02 TR Bot; A Battery To Extend Speaker Life | Hackaday
11:03 TR News; Plotter https://hackaday.com/2022/07/23/purpose-built-plotter-pitches-in-to-solve-wordblitz-on-your-phone/ | Source: Hackaday
11:03 TR Bot; Plotter Pitches In To Solve Wordblitz On Your Phone | Hackaday
11:04 TR News; Another patent racket? https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/23/who-declares-monkeypox-global-public-health-emergency | Source: Common Dreams
11:04 TR Bot; WHO Declares Monkeypox a Global Public Health Emergency
11:05 TR News; "Whitney discusses the parallels between the rescue of Emergent Biosolutions with anthrax (and potentially now monkeypox) and the rescue of Moderna and BioNTech with Covid." https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/05/investigative-reports/monkeypox-fears-may-rescue-endangered-corporations/
11:05 TR Bot; MonkeypoxFearsMay RescueEndangeredCorporations
11:06 TR News; "Improve a mechanical device, and you may double productivity." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/23/hack-your-brain-bionic-reading-panacea-or-placebo/ | Source: Hackaday
11:06 TR Bot; Your Brain: Bionic Reading Panacea Or Placebo? | Hackaday
11:06 matey; durkheim may have recommended civil disobedience before thoreau
11:07 matey; he said that crime was essentially necessary, and that one route to changing (unjust laws in) society was to break (unjust) laws
11:08 matey; i think thoreau was more influential (on this topic) so he gets more credit
11:08 matey; jobs didnt invent mp3 players, but he sold more of them to more people
11:10 matey; "it would never have been possible to establish the freedom of thought we now enjoy if the regulations prohibiting it had not been violated before being solemnly abrogated."
11:11 matey; breaking stupid rules = freedom
11:11 matey; following GOOD rules = sometimes good
11:11 matey; breaking stupid rules = also good
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11:12 matey; coc-masters cant tell the difference (or simply DONT tell the difference) between good ideals and good rules
11:12 matey; a terrible rule takes you towards an ideal the same way a terrible road takes you to a place you want to be
11:13 matey; maybe it just destroys your car on the way there and leaves you stranded
11:13 matey; i certainly cant think of how thats happened to the free software movement
11:13 matey; everything is fucking GREAT now
11:13 matey; everyones happy, and weve destroyed anyone who disagrees
11:14 matey; sounds good
11:14 matey; the next step is mandatory happiness. this acheives two goals
11:14 phanes; durkheim++
11:15 matey; first, making happiness mandatory means MORE PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY
11:15 matey; that alone is an excellent argument for mandatory happiness
11:15 matey; but another thing to consider, is that if happiness is mandatory, it will be harder for anyone to say that our brilliant plans were unsuccessful
11:15 phanes; sounds like the corporate life
11:15 matey; in theory at least, it will be impossible
11:16 phanes; in corporate settings god forbid you not be happy
11:16 matey; <phanes> sounds like the corporate life <- is there any other?
11:16 matey; i shudder to think of the poor unwashed souls who never knew the love of a corporation
11:17 phanes; nevermind the fact that these grey cubicle walls have claimed the souls of 2 generations of scholars and champions, if you so much as acknowledge the shallow, broken consciousnesses that perpetuate this bland hellscape you had better have an offer on standby
11:17 matey; one of these days we may even find a way to break poes law
11:17 matey; nevermind the fact that these grey cubicle walls have claimed the souls of 2 generations of scholars and champions
11:17 matey; sure but you cant make an omelette, etc etc
11:18 phanes; a tin sardine can packed to the brim with people who desperately hate each other after the first year of their coexistence attempt
11:18 TR News; Raspberry Pi Tracks Airport Arrivals and Departures | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-arrivals-and-departures-board Source: tomshardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-arrivals-and-departures-board
11:18 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Tracks Airport Arrivals and Departures | Tom's Hardware
11:19 TR News; Devices that represents some freedom connected to malicious, oppressive listening device controlled by thugs https://www.tomshardware.com/news/alexa-controls-raspberry-pi-pico-door-lock
11:19 TR Bot; Amazon Alexa Controls Raspberry Pi Pico Door Lock | Tom's Hardware
11:19 TR News; Raspberry Pi Powers Machine Learning Terminator | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-terminator-t-800-skull Source: tomshardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-terminator-t-800-skull
11:19 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Powers Machine Learning Terminator | Tom's Hardware
11:20 phanes; it always surprises me too becuse there can be no sane motiviation to suppress acknowledging it that i have found, as the reason they hate the cubicles, the walls, each other, is because they recognize that they are surrounded by the breaking and the broken, and see the blkeak depravity forming in everyone around them, promising to consume them next
11:20 phanes; not talking about it doesn't preserve some cultural secret
11:20 phanes; they all know
11:21 TR News; Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Lego-Powered Submarine Makes a Splash | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-zero-2-w-submarine Source: tomshardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-zero-2-w-submarine
11:21 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Lego-Powered Submarine Makes a Splash | Tom's Hardware
11:21 matey; different wards, same prison
11:21 phanes; this is reinforced so heavily, to go against their humanity that by the time they have the weight to say something they no longer want to, because they've grown into the walls
11:21 matey; office buildings used to be minimum security wards
11:21 matey; now theyre medium
11:21 matey; minimum just wasnt working out
11:22 TR News; Raspberry Pi Backpack Is Ready for Hacking on the Go | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-backpack Source: tomshardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-backpack
11:22 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Backpack Is Ready for Hacking on the Go | Tom's Hardware
11:22 matey; "you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave"
11:22 TR News; "To make the mirror worth staring at even for those who arent vain, the Cellar Nerd replaced the sensors in the center of the Webb Space Telescopes mirror array with a salvaged 15.6-inch laptop screen connected to a Raspberry Pi 2 that holds actual images captured by the real telescope" https://gizmodo.com/james-webb-space-telescope-raspberry-pi-mirror-diy-1849189433
11:22 TR Bot; This James Webb Space Telescope Mirror Displays Real JWST Images
11:26 TR News; Failing to disclose that Red Hat is paying them for these puff pieces, or selective disclosing that, sometimes... https://siliconangle.com/2022/07/19/matt-hicks-in-perspective-how-red-hats-new-ceo-revealed-his-view-of-it-through-interviews-with-thecube-rhsummit/
11:26 TR Bot; Red Hats new CEO Matt Hicks revealed his view of IT through interviews with theCUBE - SiliconANGLE
11:28 TR News; This only works if you've already taken over the machine https://www.securityweek.com/new-cross-platform-luna-ransomware-only-offered-russian-affiliates
11:28 TR Bot; Cross-Platform 'Luna' Ransomware Only Offered to Russian Affiliates | SecurityWeek.Com
11:29 TR News; With Windows, there are back doors. With Linux, however, you need to first get in somehow. The media fails to mention this. https://www.securityweek.com/intezer-documents-powerful-lightning-framework-linux-malware
11:29 TR Bot; Documents Powerful 'Lightning Framework' Linux Malware | SecurityWeek.Com
11:30 TR News; FreeBSD Foundation: FreeBSD in Science Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167589
11:30 TR Bot; FreeBSD Foundation: FreeBSD in Science | Tux Machines
11:31 TR News; So don't run this script. Nobody forces you to. https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28860
11:31 TR Bot; InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center
11:32 matey; if ross from friends played a marxist caricature henchman working for dr evil, who was then asked to explain true crime (note ross worked in a museum of history and gave tours, and went to the william shatner school of acting) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Fyu-2JIetEM
11:33 TR Bot; What is the Purpose of True Crime? | We're In Hell - Invidious
11:33 TR News; Using Microsoft backdoorsware to do "research" into security is a gas! https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28872
11:33 TR Bot; InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center
11:34 TR News; Microsofters @ sans dot edu :-) ... about the cult, about the back doors, not about security
11:35 matey; i dont understand the costumes and they really really distract from the rest of the thing
11:35 matey; theyve got to be an in joke of some kind
11:36 TR News; SANS: let's use back doors OS in WINDOWS to "prove" SSH is 'dangerous'...
11:36 phanes; reichwein's account from the case has what i view as a continuity defect in it. im too tired to process it. will come back to this later.
11:38 TR News; A disturbing proportion of people in the US seem to have adopted the mindset of incest apologism https://www.vox.com/23271352/rape-and-incest-abortion-exception
11:38 TR Bot; and incest exceptions in abortion bans arent common - Vox
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11:41 TR News; "I mentioned a new committer for DragonFly, Sergey Zigachev, recently. He hasnt shown in the commit logs for DragonFly directly cause hes fixing up dports. Im mentioning that because the amount of work that goes into dports to keep all those ports working on DragonFly is separate and unseen but necessary." https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2022/07/22/27213.html
11:41 TR Bot; Where the (dports) action is DragonFly BSD Digest
11:44 TR News; Contributing to Open Source Beyond Software Development Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167590
11:44 TR Bot; Contributing to Open Source Beyond Software Development | Tux Machines
11:45 TR News; Glenn Greenwald on Tucker Carlson, Left-Wing Authoritarians, and Identity Politics https://reason.com/video/2022/07/21/glenn-greenwald-on-tucker-carlson-chelsea-manning-russia-and-big-tech/ Source: reason | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//reason.com/video/2022/07/21/glenn-greenwald-on-tucker-carlson-chelsea-manning-russia-and-big-tech/
11:45 TR Bot; Glenn Greenwald on Tucker Carlson, Left-Wing Authoritarians, and Identity Politics
11:47 TR News; And why didn't BillBC mention Bill Gates' ties (very strong ties!) to Jeffrey Epstein? Because Famous Criminal Gates bribes BBC and it takes the bribes https://pressgazette.co.uk/sam-mcalister-newsnight-prince-andrew-bbc/
11:47 TR Bot; Sam McAlister on booking Prince Andrew and the BBC's class issue
11:50 TR News; Paragraph REMOVED! "Lpez Obrador has repeatedly criticized the Biden administration, including decrying U.S. efforts to extradite Wikileaks founder Julian Assange from the U.K. for prosecution. He has vowed to bring up the topic during Tuesdays meeting, and Biden officials say they are ready to discuss it." https://federalnewsnetwork.com/world-news/2022/07/biden-to-discuss-immigration-trade-with-mexicos-president/
11:50 TR Bot; Mexico agrees to invest $1.5B in smart border technology | Federal News Network
11:50 TR News; Mexican President Renewed Asylum Offer for Assange in Letter to Biden https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-07-18/mexican-president-renewed-asylum-offer-for-assange-in-letter-to-biden
11:51 TR News; "Mr. Lpez Obrador vowed to start a campaign to tear down the Statue of Liberty if Mr. Assange is sentenced to the maximum penalty in the United States." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/12/us/politics/biden-lopez-obrador.html
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11:54 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
11:54 TR News; Liz Truss was mentioned in Techrights last year, in a good way https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Two-Finalists-in-UK-Leadership-Race-of-Ruling-Party-20220721-0005.html see http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/evangelos-chatzikos-and-richard-arnold/
11:55 TR Bot; NO TITLE
11:55 TR Bot; The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law Part 17: The External Members: Evangelos Chatzikos and Richard Arnold | Techrights
11:55 TR News; "He has also offered asylum to jailed whistleblower Julian Assange and recently suggested that the Statue of Liberty should be dismantled and returned to France if Assange is extradited and imprisoned in the United States." https://jacobin.com/2022/07/amlo-mexico-president-us-celac-latin-america/
11:56 TR Bot; AMLO Is Trying to Free Mexico and Latin America From the USs Imperial Grip
11:56 TR News; node
11:56 TR News; DragonFly BSD Updates: dports and miscellany Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167591
11:56 TR Bot; DragonFly BSD Updates: dports and miscellany | Tux Machines
noon, July 24
12:01 TR News; Conflating targets with infects. Just because someone wishes to infect "Linux" with this thing doesn't mean it'll be feasible; with Windows there are back doors https://www.fudzilla.com/news/55138-linux-hit-by-a-rather-nasty-persistent-virus
12:02 TR Bot; Linux hit by a rather nasty persistent virus
12:04 TR News; This is not security but Linux (Microsoft) Foundation propaganda and stigmatisation that distracts from the back doors https://www.computing.co.uk/feature/4053287/about-sboms-moves-secure-software-supply-chain
12:04 TR Bot; All about SBOMs: the latest moves to secure the software supply chain
12:06 TR News; Proprietary software and sensationalising headlines, the usual from Gordon Kelly, basically naming how many people are estimated to use the software https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2022/07/21/google-chrome-high-level-vulnerabilities-discovered-windows-macos-linux/
12:06 TR Bot; Google Update Warning Issued For 3 Billion Chrome Users
12:07 TR News; Forbes employs dishonest hacks, not journalists. Many of them are Microsoft/Bill Gates operatives, sans disclosure...
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12:08 TR News; This is not real security, this is bureaucracy and paperwork https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/news/252522983/CNCF-CISA-address-hurdles-to-SBOM-for-cloud-security
12:08 TR Bot; CNCF, CISA address hurdles to SBOM for cloud security
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12:09 TR News; "Docker and Podman offer similar capabilities to manage containers, but Docker's security vulnerabilities might make Podman more appealing for some admins." https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/tip/Compare-Docker-vs-Podman-for-container-management
12:09 TR Bot; Compare Docker vs. Podman for container management
12:11 TR News; "Since C hit the scene in 1972, the language has continuously evolved to stay relevant in modern development. We examine C's history and why it's still relevant." https://www.techtarget.com/searchapparchitecture/tip/A-quick-glance-at-the-history-of-C-programming-languages
12:11 TR Bot; A quick glance at the history of C programming languages
12:18 TR News; The Matrix Interoperated: Element fuses growth in open source messaging protocol Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167592
12:18 TR Bot; The Matrix Interoperated: Element fuses growth in open source messaging protocol | Tux Machines
12:21 matey; "im not gonna do it by pretending that the enemies are on the same team as me"-- guy from tmz talking to kanye west, in response to
12:21 matey; "400 years of slavery? that sounds liks a CHOICE"
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; coming soon, IBM marketing blitz
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; featuring kanye west
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; "we are not raysist"-ibm
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; they already coopeted the jamaican flag
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; after doing soime exploratory eugenics projects there
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe that can hep game gulag search resulkts
12:29 schestowitz[TR2]; icbm.. the champion of "wokeness"
12:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:30 schestowitz[TR2]; \microsoft: the company of ETHICS
12:30 matey; SIX MILLION dead? that sounds likes a CHOICE!-- ibm
12:30 matey; you couldnt kill that many unless SOME of them were VOLUNTEERING
12:31 matey; yknow?
12:31 matey; i mean, its a sure path to misery in life to focus on the lives you DONT have
12:32 TR News; "I read yesterday that there is a new release of Apache OpenOffice (4.1.13). Despite the news release, the new release is less than exciting - it mostly consists of minor bug fixes." gemini://nafmusings.smol.pub/new-openoffice-release
12:32 matey; i dont want to pour gasoline. lets focus on the POSITIVES.
12:33 TR News; Religious content in Gemini gemini://eph.smol.pub/1658648695
12:36 schestowitz[TR2]; Novell CEO, to me:
12:36 schestowitz[TR2]; (via his attorney)
12:36 schestowitz[TR2]; these articles are old
12:36 schestowitz[TR2]; let's remove them
12:36 schestowitz[TR2]; for being old
12:37 schestowitz[TR2]; that's what "Right to be forgotten" is about
12:39 matey; what are the positives of red hat?
12:39 schestowitz[TR2]; it pays "journalists"
12:39 schestowitz[TR2]; to lie for them
12:39 schestowitz[TR2]; you know some of their names
12:40 matey; those are positives?
12:40 TR News; Why on Earth does Jack Wallen help Microsoft? TypeScript is vendor lock-in. Link omitted.
12:40 matey; i guess journalists getting paid is technically a positive, when its out of context here
12:41 matey; but i mean are there any real positives of red hat
12:41 TR News; x86 defects prevent Linux from being released with sufficient time for proper testing https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yt0LbbTNZyrM0pVw@zn.tnic/
12:41 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] x86/urgent for v5.19-rc8 - Borislav Petkov
12:41 matey; that should make us say "man, im so glad red hat is a thing in 2022"
12:43 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167593
12:43 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
12:43 TR News; GNU Parallel 20220722 (Roe vs Wade) released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167594
12:43 TR Bot; GNU Parallel 20220722 ('Roe vs Wade') released | Tux Machines
12:43 matey; probably not many positives to focus on there
12:43 matey; maybe focusing on the positives would be like trying to think of a reason what they did isnt really their fault
12:44 TR News; NanoPi R4SE dual Gigabit Ethernet router adds 32GB eMMC flash - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/24/nanopi-r4se-dual-gigabit-ethernet-router-32gb-emmc-flash/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware |
12:44 TR Bot; NanoPi R4SE dual Gigabit Ethernet router adds 32GB eMMC flash - CNX Software
12:46 TR News; What is the fastest ARM SoC? https://dwaves.de/2022/07/24/what-is-the-fastest-arm-soc-geekbench-results-samsung-s21-ultra-how-to-send-android-apps-over-bluetooth-or-e-mail-how-to-backup-an-android-app-to-file/
12:46 TR Bot; What is the fastest ARM SoC? GeekBench results Samsung S21 Ultra & how to send Android Apps over Bluetooth (or E-Mail) & how to backup an Android App to file | dwaves.de
12:47 TR News; Microsoft, like IBM, publishers a lot of lies about itself using complicit, BRIBED 'journalists'... I reckon IBM did this much earlier than Microsoft did
12:48 TR News; IBM/ICBM is a company in rapid decline, but the corrupt media refuses to say so or has been too busy drowning out the few who do say so. And yes, the bribes from ICBM are easily provable. Microsoftis the same.
12:50 TR News; A truth-teller surrounded by 99 liars would seem outlandish, out of touch, irrational. Democracy too isn't a popularity content when election are put on sale/auction for oligarchs. Nominations too.
12:51 TR News; SJVN is not a journalism. Maybe he was until a decade ago. Now he's a coin-operated PR rep and ZDNet as well as Linux Foundation (yes, connection) are his "fixers"...
12:52 TR News; James Zemlin and his wife Sheela Microsoft have probably done far more damage to GNU/Linux than any single person or couple at Microsoft, including Bill and Lolita Gates
12:53 TR News; Notice the wording. Greg K-H (LF) is a slave of Intel. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Ys%2FbWIk0F5srkkpF@kroah.com/ follow the money...
12:53 TR Bot; Re: RETBleed: WARNING: Spectre v2 mitigation leaves CPU vulnerable to RETBleed attacks, data leaks possible! - Greg Kroah-Hartman
12:55 TR News; LF is like US elections. Zero monetary contribution? ZERO influence on code, policy etc. LF is a briber's laundry machine... a middleman between geeks who are meant to work on Linux... and the GPL infringer who abuse their work
12:55 TR News; OSI is also a 'laundry machine' of Microsoft bribes http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-budget-for-proprietary-software-monopoly/
12:55 TR Bot; In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) | Techrights
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13:09 matey; trumps pastor was norman vincent peale, the author of the power of positive thinking?
13:09 TR News; The performance impact of various debug options on Fedora Rawhide debug kernels https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/HRJT4UF35MRJ7C4ZXVHBFXB4BTW64YSO/
13:09 TR Bot; The performance impact of various debug options on Fedora Rawhide debug kernels - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists
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13:23 TR News; Linux Foundation does not work for Linux. Linux Foundation works for the Linux Foundation. Who is the Linux Foundation? Many companies that dislike Linux, barely tolerate the licence of Linux, and exercise control over this "threat" using the so-called 'Linux' Foundation. Check the board, Those seats are ON SALE.
13:24 psydroid2; what is happening with windows in norway and other countries?
13:24 psydroid2; https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/norway#monthly-200901-202207
13:24 TR Bot; Operating System Market Share Norway | Statcounter Global Stats
13:26 psydroid2; https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/turkey#monthly-200901-202207
13:26 TR Bot; Operating System Market Share Turkey | Statcounter Global Stats
13:28 matey; #brokenwindowstheory
13:29 psydroid2; I wonder if it's just holiday season or some kind of marketing/bribery is going on
13:33 matey; maybe, just possibly
13:33 matey; the earth has flipped over
13:33 matey; not in a bad way necessarily
13:33 matey; definitely NOT in a good way
13:34 matey; just... completely
13:34 matey; sort of like a parallel universe
13:34 matey; except (slightly) less weird
13:34 matey; thats my theory, let me know what you find out
13:35 matey; world has flipped-- explains everything pretty much
13:35 matey; this year. or 2021. one of those.
13:35 matey; second theory, different from the first
13:35 matey; first theory (which was intended as tongue in cheek anyway) is actually result of
13:36 matey; 1. heat wave
13:36 matey; 2. lack of sleep
13:36 matey; 3. instant coffee (too tired to make tea. whats tea? ohhh, caffiene. hi...)
13:36 matey; so thats another theory
13:36 matey; but i still like the first one. it could be that.
13:37 matey; how much coffee do you have to drink before its basically the same as snorting coke? i dont know
13:38 matey; /me considers standing on a coffee table, but then thats kanye. no, its tom. better leave the table alone.
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13:51 matey; "i also dont wanna be too mean to her, since i believe she was cursed by a vengeful spirit, so that everything she touches takes on a hideous pinterest aesthetic"
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13:53 matey; "kind of a 'king midas, if he was a quirky aunt' situation"
13:55 matey; paint the outside black and the inside white and put some native american shit on it
13:55 matey; then wait for the money to roll in
13:55 matey; (what does this have to do with tech? ffs, this has GNOME written all the fuck over it)
13:56 matey; gnome: kind of a ruthless get-rich-quick scam artist if they were quirky aunts who develop software and only care about big companies liking what they do
13:57 matey; slash / ibm
13:57 matey; or plus + ibm
13:57 matey; 2 terabytes of icons? that sounds like a CHOICE
13:57 matey; but if you try to uninstall them your applications go with
13:58 matey; everyone knows that without icons
13:58 matey; applications Will D-I-E
13:58 schestowitz[TR2]; systemd-ood
13:59 schestowitz[TR2]; syemedie-hard
13:59 schestowitz[TR2]; buggy as hell
13:59 schestowitz[TR2]; after 40 years (next year) of gnu
13:59 schestowitz[TR2]; we cannot even do some basics right
13:59 matey; systemdie-hard-2-cancel-stallman-with-a-vengeance
13:59 schestowitz[TR2]; but Microsoft Lennart is working on it
13:59 schestowitz[TR2]; for Microsoft salaries
13:59 schestowitz[TR2]; no incentive to make it work well
13:59 schestowitz[TR2]; his boss is selling WINDOWS
13:59 matey; i guess youre going ot tease the microsoft lennart thing a bit longer before telling anyone what that is hmm
2 PM, July 24
14:00 matey; we cannot even do some basics right <- you mean like not hosting gnu projects on github?
14:01 matey; ukraine: we have weapons to use against putlin! where should we put them to keep them safe
14:01 matey; i dunno, how about the kremlin
14:01 matey; great idea!
14:01 matey; https://github.com
14:01 TR Bot; Where the world builds software GitHub
14:01 schestowitz[TR2]; builds for Microsoft
14:02 schestowitz[TR2]; btw, gemini has a github proxy
14:02 schestowitz[TR2]; afaik, the web lacks that
14:02 schestowitz[TR2]; so far
14:02 schestowitz[TR2]; linkedin shows mirosoft takles you to court over xcopies
14:02 matey; ive been openly against a github proxy
14:02 schestowitz[TR2]; after harvesting the data from the useds
14:02 matey; because it doesnt mirror, so microsoft retains exactly the same amount of control (a proxy doesnt solve this problem)
14:02 schestowitz[TR2]; matey: sometimes you have no choice
14:02 schestowitz[TR2]; like with invidious
14:02 matey; this isnt one of those
14:03 matey; no, with video you cant mirror the massive massive content
14:03 matey; with most github projects the real problem is people need to move
14:03 schestowitz[TR2]; btw: http://techrights.org/2021/11/11/microsoft-hates-linux/
14:03 TR Bot; Halloween Documents in Gemini Space | Techrights
14:03 matey; 10 months old, so
14:04 schestowitz[TR2]; matey: that's not a mirror
14:04 schestowitz[TR2]; it's converted on the fly
14:04 schestowitz[TR2]; like wtih newsswaffle
14:04 matey; that. is. my. point.
14:04 schestowitz[TR2]; or the youtube gemini proxy
14:04 matey; a proxy doesnt solve anything with github
14:04 matey; you need mirrors.
14:04 matey; the problem is microsoft controls the project
14:05 matey; a proxy doesnt fix that
14:05 matey; a mirror at least provides a copy they dont control
14:05 matey; a proxy solves nothing here
14:05 matey; right solution TO A DIFFERENT PROBLEM
14:05 matey; thats why im against github proxies
14:05 TR News; Links 24/07/2022: GNU Parallel 20220722 (Roe vs Wade) and Many SBC Projects | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/24/many-sbc-projects/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/24/many-sbc-projects/
14:05 TR Bot; Links 24/07/2022: GNU Parallel 20220722 (Roe vs Wade) and Many SBC Projects | Techrights
14:05 schestowitz[TR2]; it's not the solutio
14:05 matey; because they make idiots think something improved (when nothing did)
14:05 matey; its not any kind of solution
14:06 schestowitz[TR2]; but it can miigate a bit
14:06 matey; mitigate WHAT
14:06 TR News; Links 24/07/2022: GNU Parallel 20220722 (Roe vs Wade) and Many SBC Projects | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/24/many-sbc-projects/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/24/many-sbc-projects/
14:06 schestowitz[TR2]; matey: you not touching a Microsoft server
14:06 schestowitz[TR2]; when there is no other option
14:06 matey; thats not the problem with github
14:06 schestowitz[TR2]; as some project decided to be just on there
14:06 matey; the problem is the code is there
14:06 matey; thats the problem
14:06 schestowitz[TR2]; same for nitter
14:06 matey; nitter is a different problem
14:07 matey; nitter solves a different problem
14:07 schestowitz[TR2]; niter is people
14:07 schestowitz[TR2]; and with shithub it is people AND projects
14:07 matey; with shithub its microsoft controlling the hosting of projects
14:08 matey; with a proxy the same problem exists, but now theres a layer on top
14:08 matey; but the problem is still there
14:08 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167595
14:08 matey; only now it feels like something has changed
14:08 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
14:08 matey; whats the proxy called
14:08 matey; gemhub?
14:08 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167596
14:08 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
14:09 matey; gitgem? gitini?
14:09 TR News; Browsers and Standards Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167597
14:09 TR Bot; Browsers and Standards | Tux Machines
14:09 TR News; Fedora Rawhide Performance / Red Hat Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167598
14:09 TR Bot; Fedora Rawhide Performance / Red Hat | Tux Machines
14:09 matey; did they even name it
14:09 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167599
14:09 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:09 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, NanoPi, and Lots More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167600
14:09 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, NanoPi, and Lots More | Tux Machines
14:09 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/24/russia-confirms-strike-on-odesa-port-news "Russia confirms strike on Odessa port"
14:09 TR Bot; .
14:10 schestowitz[TR2]; http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/microsoftless-github-access/
14:10 TR Bot; Checking and Downloading Projects Hosted in Microsofts Proprietary Code Prison (GitHub) Without Touching Microsoft Servers | Techrights
14:10 matey; http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/rose-tinted-glasses-for-github/
14:10 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/rose-tinted-glasses-for-github/ )
14:10 matey; nothing more than that
14:11 matey; really you could just colour one of your monitors with a pink marker pen
14:12 schestowitz[TR2]; you can read the text and listen to the audio
14:12 schestowitz[TR2]; but I did not call it "the" solution
14:12 schestowitz[TR2]; the final solution is when github shuts down
14:12 schestowitz[TR2]; and ballmer blows his brains out
14:13 schestowitz[TR2]; and herr sixel cries
14:13 matey; he doesnt strike me as being that much in favour of github
14:13 matey; just completely neutral about it
14:13 matey; which is still a bad thing imo
14:14 matey; the final solution is when github shuts down <- so far thats the only solution
14:14 schestowitz[TR2]; self-hosting is better
14:14 matey; which means its not really a solution, its just waiting for a day when the problem magically fixes itself
14:14 schestowitz[TR2]; but microsoft and other over-complicate git
14:15 schestowitz[TR2]; having taken over key developers
14:15 matey; self-hosting is better <- any hosting is better
14:15 schestowitz[TR2]; and their salareies
14:15 schestowitz[TR2]; or via
14:15 schestowitz[TR2]; so self-hosting can becomne harder
14:15 matey; even gitlab is better... its barely noticeable, sure, but technically its better
14:15 matey; sort of
14:15 matey; everybody needs as many git features as microsoft word
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14:16 matey; therefore gitlab is the only real alternative, even though no sane person would opt for it
14:16 matey; so while really, most things are better options
14:16 matey; gitlab is the only "real" one
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14:16 schestowitz[TR2]; don't think so
14:16 schestowitz[TR2]; linux doens't use it
14:16 matey; or you could just host your project up the arse of a 100-foot rabid badger
14:16 schestowitz[TR2]; gnome and kde use it a bit
14:16 matey; at least its not microsoft
14:16 schestowitz[TR2]; but don't have to
14:17 matey; gitbadger is gonna be so epic
14:17 matey; obviously security is built in
14:18 matey; plus it has a special url feature
14:18 matey; what it does is-- you have a gitbadger url for each project
14:19 schestowitz[TR2]; "Gitea is the software weve decided to put our faith into" https://code.blender.org/2022/07/gitea-diaries-part-1/ |
14:19 schestowitz[TR2]; new
14:19 TR Bot; Gitea Diaries: Part 1 Blender Developers Blog
14:19 matey; but when you go, it redirects to the github repo so you dont have to type in the github url
14:19 matey; its not the solution, but it mitigates it
14:19 matey; the first step of course is no one types in any more github urls
14:19 matey; little by little... we get there
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14:22 TR News; [PATCH RFC v2 00/16] btrfs: add fscrypt integration - Sweet Tea Dorminy https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/cover.1658623319.git.sweettea-kernel@dorminy.me/ Source: dorminy | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/cover.1658623319.git.sweettea-kernel@dorminy.me/
14:22 TR Bot; [PATCH RFC v2 00/16] btrfs: add fscrypt integration - Sweet Tea Dorminy
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14:40 TR News; [PATCH v6 00/14] GSC support for XeHP SDV and DG2 https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220724082428.218628-1-tomas.winkler@intel.com/T/ Source: intel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220724082428.218628-1-tomas.winkler@intel.com/T/
14:40 TR Bot; [PATCH v6 00/14] GSC support for XeHP SDV and DG2
14:44 TR News; Testing Limine Installer on a UEFI computer http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167572#comment-34421
14:44 TR Bot; Limine Installer version 1.0 | Tux Machines
14:44 TR News; "3DimViewer is a lightweight 3D viewer of medical DICOM datasets that is distributed as open source software. The viewer is multiplatform software written in C++ that runs on Windows, Mac OS X and Linux systems." https://medevel.com/3dimviewer-22/
14:44 TR Bot; 3DimViewer is an Open-source Free DICOM Viewer
14:45 TR News; "The dicom or formerly "go-dicom" is a library and command-line tool to read, write, and generally work with DICOM medical image files in native Go." https://medevel.com/os-dicom-parser-for-go/
14:45 TR Bot; dicom: an Open-source DICOM Parser for The Go Language
14:46 TR News; "InfCloud is a free open-source web-based CalDAV and CardDAV client that integrates both CardDavMATE and CalDavZAP in one platform. [...] GNU Affero General Public License (version 3.0)." https://medevel.com/infcloud/
14:46 TR Bot; InfCloud is an Open-source Self-hosted CardDAV and CardDAV client
14:48 TR News; Popular Science has resorted to spam/wwebspam of diploma mills https://www.popsci.com/gear/linux-training-sale/
14:48 TR Bot; Save over $100 on this comprehensive Linux training | Popular Science
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
3 PM, July 24
15:01 matey; the future: no car, no bus, no hotel, and no home-- only airbnb and uber
15:01 matey; heres why https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WycFnXXj6h0
15:01 TR Bot; Stay Here: Gentrification and the Neoliberal City - Invidious
15:02 matey; but its okay we can live in tents until they get slashed
15:07 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167601
15:07 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
15:07 matey; "while i do absolutely appreciate all the suggestions that i get, the problem with this is that... theres not really any commentary i can add about a show that the u.n. would unambiguouslyy classify as a war crime"
15:17 TR News; 5 Best Free and Open Source Console-Based YouTube Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167602
15:17 TR Bot; 5 Best Free and Open Source Console-Based YouTube Tools | Tux Machines
15:21 MinceR; https://apina.biz/178204.webp?mode=sfw
15:21 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/178204.webp
15:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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4 PM, July 24
16:03 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights
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16:03 matey; "as you may or may not know, anti-freeze is not good for you"
16:14 Ariadne; reason 9000000000 that amazon sucks, they let counterfeit books onto their market: https://twitter.com/fchollet/status/1550930876183166976?s=21&t=gpfPaZukSzYib-zSIvOwAA
16:14 TR Bot; I've been asked about this a lot, so let me provide a quick FAQ. Q: What's the nature of the issue? A: Anyone who https://t.co/pNaB8zXwvY
16:14 TR Bot; I've been asked about this a lot, so let me provide a quick FAQ. Q: What's the nature of the issue? A: Anyone who https://t.co/pNaB8zXwvY
16:15 Ariadne; https://nitter.net/fchollet/status/1550930876183166976?s=21&t=gpfPaZukSzYib-zSIvOwAA
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16:22 XRevan86; Ariadne: One would think a company as big as Amazon would have this sorted out.
16:22 XRevan86; What is this, Wildberries, Ltd.?
16:23 matey; amazon has zero fucks to give
16:24 matey; they pass the savings onto bezos, the costs onto authors and share the profits with the cottage industry frauds
16:24 matey; i LOVE book piracy. dont do very much of it. but this is just nasty, for-profit scamming (and amazon of course, still profits from it)
16:25 matey; i LOVE book piracy <- you know, "sharing"
16:25 matey; thats not what this is
16:26 matey; this is you buy a book from scam artists, for the retail price, you get shit, and the author gets nothing, and only frauds get paid
16:26 matey; i cant think of a single good thing about it
16:26 matey; PLUS amazon
16:27 Ariadne; book piracy is fine, not everyone has the ability to pay for books
16:27 Ariadne; this is just scamming though
16:27 matey; yep
16:28 Ariadne; and it disincentivizes releasing books under libre
16:28 matey; and amazon doesnt care because its cheaper or even (short term) profitable to let the scammers just do whatever
16:28 Ariadne; theres a lot of books where the book itself is under creative commons or GFDL or whatever
16:28 matey; and it disincentivizes releasing books under libre <- maybe amazon is banking on it helping drm too
16:28 Ariadne; but if the author gets fucked over on sales due to this shit
16:28 matey; i mean theyre the ones that made drm on BOOKS an everyday thing
16:29 matey; which is exactly why i stoppped being an amazon customer 16 years ago when that bullshit started
16:29 Ariadne; then they might rethink that for future books
16:29 Ariadne; yeah i dont buy books from amazon
16:29 matey; amazon does nothing they arent forced to do. the unions will have to care about this for it to change
16:29 matey; i dont buy books from amazon <- good idea
16:29 Ariadne; there is a shop in seattle called adas technical books which has better pricing tbh
16:30 matey; yeah they play games with prices that dont really help the authors or customers
16:30 matey; w3hich isnt surprising, because amazon is all about exploiting both
16:30 matey; i should say all three
16:30 Ariadne; id be mad if i paid 150 bucks for a book and got some counterfeit bullshit version tho
16:30 matey; amazon is all about exploiting workers, authors and customers
16:31 matey; id be mad if i paid 150 bucks for a book and got some counterfeit bullshit version tho <- even bezos himself might think "wow, thats like what i make in 0.0000-- OH! back to making money!"
16:32 matey; maybe authors will band together to tell people not to buy any books from amazon
16:32 matey; it probably wont be that epic, but it would be cool if they did
16:33 matey; one of the main reasons weird al offered "dont download this song" as a free download was to call attention to the fact that the customer-demonising labels werent even paying artists ANYTHING for streaming revenue
16:34 matey; while moving so many things to streaming-- for which artists get exactly 0 (depending on whatever factors etc etc etc)
16:34 matey; so theyre like "customers are denying revenue to artists!"
16:34 matey; weird al: "WHAT revenue?"
16:35 MinceR; https://apina.biz/190493.png?mode=sfw
16:37 XRevan86; MinceR: Simplified.
16:38 XRevan86; It implies that Russia holds one position at a time, which is almost never true.
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16:41 MinceR; :>
16:42 psydroid2; oops, they did it again
16:44 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1551229056586244100
16:44 XRevan86; "In case you come across a Westerner claiming that Russia wants to negotiate a peaceful resolution of their invasion and we just don't know about it, here is the head of Russia's biggest state media group and a head of State Duma's Defense Committee to tell you otherwise. #Chomsky"
16:45 matey; It implies that Russia holds one position at a time <- putin is doing downward dog in a bunker, while everyone else is doing stretch up on your toes to see over the iron curtain
16:47 XRevan86; I meant a different thing: that Russian propaganda doesn't care about internal consistency, it only cares about poking holes in what everyone else is saying.
16:48 matey; I meant a different thing: that Russian propaganda doesn't care about internal consistency, it only cares about poking holes in what everyone else is saying. <- that sounds a LOT like this website that i go to a lot
16:52 matey; of course people (being organic) are rarely 100% consistent
16:52 matey; we paint with the all the colours of the wind, you know
16:52 matey; but honest people have a certainly level of consistency
16:52 matey; and bullshit... doesnt have to
16:53 XRevan86; matey: Honesty hooks to the objective world, so it has to resemble it at least somehow.
16:54 matey; people do impressions though
16:54 XRevan86; Bullshit is like fiction, and that is hard to keep the record straight of.
16:54 matey; yep
16:55 matey; which is why people who integrate science fiction into their lives like its not fiction get so irritated when youre like "midichlorians"
16:55 matey; "what?"
16:55 matey; "midichlorians"
16:55 matey; "fuck you!"
16:56 XRevan86; Is Bible science fiction?
16:56 matey; its got a dude who can fly and hes immortal and he can talk to invisible people
16:56 XRevan86; But maybe it's more like a fantasy.
16:56 matey; sounds more like fantasy genre, but a lot of stores lump them together (or make them neighbours)
16:57 matey; yep
16:57 XRevan86; s/a (fantasy)/\1/
16:57 matey; if they do it again, jesus should have a unicorn named holiah
16:58 matey; and they can go on quests to heal the sick and make people feel bad for being stupid douchebags
16:58 matey; "behold! you have been stupid and a douche. repent! and try not to be a cunt all the time"
16:58 matey; "thank you jesus!"
16:58 matey; "holiah... away!!"
16:58 XRevan86; matey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynocephaly#Saint_Christopher
16:58 XRevan86; At least they have that.
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
16:59 XRevan86; > The late 10th century German bishop and poet Walter of Speyer portrayed St. Christopher as a giant of a cynocephalic species in the land of the Chananeans (Canaan in the New Testament) who ate human flesh and barked. Eventually, Christopher met the Christ child, regretted his former behavior, and received baptism. He, too, was rewarded with a human appearance, whereupon he devoted his life to Christ
16:59 XRevan86; ian service and became an Athleta Christi, one of the military saints.
5 PM, July 24
17:00 matey; jesus might be a superhero, but if he is he shirks a bit
17:00 matey; it could also be a murder mystery
17:01 matey; the romans did it, but everyone thinks it was the jews
17:01 XRevan86; "rewarded with a human appearance" <- That's speciesism.
17:01 XRevan86; matey: No, they say that Jews are enablers.
17:01 XRevan86; For some reason that's worse.
17:02 matey; then jesus is like "but im a jew!" and everyone else is like "really?"
17:02 matey; "you always seemed a bit new agey to me"
17:02 matey; we could all be singing together and holding hands, and the adl would find something wrong with it
17:04 XRevan86; matey: I'm pretty sure Anti-Semitism is the root cause of the blame, not the other way around.
17:04 XRevan86; If more people were Anti-Italian, then Romans would've been to blame.
17:04 XRevan86; But Romans are highly regarded, so they're off the hook.
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17:23 matey; matey: I'm pretty sure Anti-Semitism is the root cause of the blame, not the other way around. <- that may very well be
17:24 matey; im only suggesting the adl is insane about an issue that would matter either way
17:24 matey; theyre sort of like the peta of racial justice
17:25 matey; when people talk about peta im like fuck that, support a real organisation like the aspca or the international-- i believe they have international chapters
17:25 matey; peta is nuts-- i dont hate animals
17:27 MinceR; (cat) https://apina.biz/190276.jpg?mode=sfw
17:31 TR News; Decrypting MIME multipart messages in Rmail gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-07-24%20Decrypting%20MIME%20multipart%20messages%20in%20Rmail
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17:40 TR News; Robin Donatello Talks About Growing an R Community at a State University https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/robin-donatello-talks-about-growing-an-r-community-at-a-state-university/
17:40 TR Bot; Donatello Talks About Growing an R Community at a State University | R-bloggers
17:42 TR News; simstudy updated to version 0.5.0 https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/simstudy-updated-to-version-0-5-0/
17:42 TR Bot; updated to version 0.5.0 | R-bloggers
17:42 TR News; "This post highlights some of the improvements in the latest RStudio IDE release 2022.07.0, code-named Spotted Wakerobin." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/rstudio-2022-07-0-whats-new/
17:42 TR Bot; 2022.07.0: Whats New | R-bloggers
17:44 TR News; "We are pleased to announce a new release of sq, our command line tool for OpenPGP operations. This release brings some more functionality, as well as some bug fixes." https://sequoia-pgp.org/blog/2022/07/21/202207-sq-0.27.0/
17:44 TR Bot; Blog - sq 0.27.0 is Released
17:46 techuser; I know a person with a nickname sq on IRC
17:46 TR News; "This week the BMP581 Pressure Sensor and ISM330DHCX 6DoF IMU get the Qwiic treatment!" https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4927
17:46 TR Bot; Pressure! - News - SparkFun Electronics
17:47 TR News; Hackster Projects to Inspire You! - News - SparkFun Electronics https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4926 Source: sparkfun | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.sparkfun.com/news/4926
17:47 TR Bot; Projects to Inspire You! - News - SparkFun Electronics
17:47 schestowitz[TR2]; techuser: that can mean loads of ttttttttttttttttttttttthings
17:47 schestowitz[TR2]; I should use the other computer
17:47 schestowitz[TR2]; it multiplies keystrokes
17:47 techuser; seroquel drug I think
17:49 schestowitz[TR2]; hmm... maybe restarting barrier can help
17:50 TR News; "Qwiic Micro reduces the size of a normal Qwiic board by more than a third, creating a new standard of 0.75in. x 0.30in. / 24.65mm x 7.62mm." https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4959
17:50 TR Bot; Goes Micro - News - SparkFun Electronics
17:51 TR News; Gulag GulagTube floundering, now some high-profiie creators use it like OnlyFans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riqE-ZybtcU
17:51 TR Bot; https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=riqE-ZybtcU
17:52 TR Bot; invidious.namazso.eu | Learn Linux with Me - Invidious
17:52 TR News; PeaZip is a FREE Archive Manager for Windows, Mac & Linux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=c1JHxQHCt5g | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/c1JHxQHCt5g
17:52 TR Bot; PeaZip is a FREE Archive Manager for Windows, Mac & Linux - Invidious
17:53 TR News; IntelliJ vs. Eclipse: Which is Better for Beginners? https://www.ubuntupit.com/intellij-vs-eclipse-which-is-better-for-beginners/ Source: UbuntuPIT | GNU | Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.ubuntupit.com/intellij-vs-eclipse-which-is-better-for-beginners/
17:53 TR Bot; IntelliJ vs. Eclipse: Which is Better for Beginners?
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17:55 TR News; What is the SAFEWhat is the SAFE submarine cable? https://sysadmin-journal.com/what-is-the-safe-submarine-cable/
17:56 TR Bot; What is the SAFE submarine cable?
17:56 techuser; I think there were some discussions about having children on this channel
17:57 techuser; someone find them and send links to cuddlybear66
17:57 cuddlybear66; haii
17:57 TR News; There is a project to recreate the Prodigy online service https://lunduke.substack.com/p/there-is-a-project-to-recreate-the Source: lunduke
17:57 TR Bot; There is a project to recreate the Prodigy online service
17:58 techuser; hi
17:58 techuser; there should be pages with logs
17:58 techuser; will try to find them
17:59 TR News; Writing and Running a BBS on a Macintosh Plus - joshua stein | jcs https://jcs.org/2022/07/15/kludge Source: jcs | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jcs.org/2022/07/15/kludge
17:59 TR Bot; Writing and Running a BBS on a Macintosh Plus - joshua stein | jcs
6 PM, July 24
18:00 schestowitz[TR2]; techuser: there are logs for these channels going back to 2008
18:00 schestowitz[TR2]; complete logs
18:00 schestowitz[TR2]; online
18:00 schestowitz[TR2]; when you were a toddler
18:00 techuser; cuddlybear66: https://techrights.org/category/irc-logs/ I guess
18:00 TR Bot; IRC Logs | Techrights
18:00 techuser; ignore the "bad" certificate
18:00 schestowitz[TR2]; yeah
18:01 schestowitz[TR2]; or use http
18:01 techuser; cuddlybear66 is 16 I think
18:01 schestowitz[TR2]; the logs since 2020 are in gemini:// also
18:01 schestowitz[TR2]; techuser: techrights turns 16 in November
18:01 techuser; she probably has no idea about Gemini
18:02 techuser; why do you say Mibbit may have "privacy risks", but KiwiIRC not?
18:03 TR News; Lies, damned lies and survey results - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/lies-damned-lies-and-survey-results/ Source: michaelwest | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/lies-damned-lies-and-survey-results/
18:03 TR Bot; Lies, damned lies and survey results - Michael West
18:03 techuser; > Ensure JavaScript is enabled to use the embedded facility above. | and ensure you pass the Cloudflare CAPTCHA
18:03 schestowitz[TR2]; iirc, mibbit sold some data
18:03 schestowitz[TR2]; so then freenode dumped them
18:03 schestowitz[TR2]; wikiic is two things
18:03 schestowitz[TR2]; the software
18:03 schestowitz[TR2]; and the site
18:03 schestowitz[TR2]; if you self-host it, you are in control
18:03 schestowitz[TR2]; but it has some ugly deps
18:04 techuser; were there bigger log files?
18:04 schestowitz[TR2]; it's vue.js
18:04 techuser; like monthly logs?
18:04 schestowitz[TR2]; no
18:04 schestowitz[TR2]; monthly would be too large
18:04 schestowitz[TR2]; in 2022 the #techrights logsd alone are about 15 MB a month for html
18:04 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe 7mb for plain text
18:04 schestowitz[TR2]; similar for .gmi versions
18:05 techuser; I don't remember when exactly there children talks happened here
18:05 schestowitz[TR2]; I cannot recall what you allude to
18:05 schestowitz[TR2]; some people use srong words here
18:05 schestowitz[TR2]; but there is no pr0n or gore here
18:06 techuser; someone did say about giving birth to children, then having it taken away and one imprisoned for "not providing good living conditions for it"
18:06 techuser; iirc it was here and not elsewhere
18:06 schestowitz[TR2]; I can imagine who said it
18:06 schestowitz[TR2]; in some states it is the law
18:07 schestowitz[TR2]; I know online people who lost custody of their kids
18:07 schestowitz[TR2]; for bogus reasons, not neglect
18:07 schestowitz[TR2]; or denied visitations
18:07 schestowitz[TR2]; "thank you for the sperm, not stay away from your own child or I call the cops"
18:07 techuser; and I don't remember if it was me or someone else saying that one's life is becoming more difficult/less freedom once kids appear
18:07 schestowitz[TR2]; /not/now/
18:08 techuser; cuddlybear66: I guess you can now say something on it
18:08 schestowitz[TR2]; techuser: I'm surprise you cannot remember if it was something you said or someone else
18:08 schestowitz[TR2]; life always gets harder once kids arrive at the home (as in born)
18:08 schestowitz[TR2]; toddlers cannot help around the house
18:09 techuser; I have bad memory, maybe because COVID-19 or something else
18:09 techuser; it may have hit my memory back then
18:09 schestowitz[TR2]; you grew up in tough times
18:09 schestowitz[TR2]; war in ukraine, lockdowns, inflation, food availability perils
18:09 schestowitz[TR2]; some parents make kids like trophies
18:09 schestowitz[TR2]; and quit caring once the kids are born
18:10 techuser; giving birth to children for this... and then die in a war
18:10 schestowitz[TR2]; or when the head/body ratio is no longer "cute"
18:10 schestowitz[TR2]; so they neglect them
18:10 schestowitz[TR2]; some animals let the offspring off the nest too at a young age
18:10 schestowitz[TR2]; I think I solved the issue with the multi-clicking
18:11 schestowitz[TR2]; barrier was running off too much swap
18:12 TR News; Sea of buzzworsd, FB SPAM in a respected (used to be!) journal https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/06/24/1054817/yann-lecun-bold-new-vision-future-ai-deep-learning-meta/
18:12 TR Bot; Yann LeCuns big bet for building intelligent machines | MIT Technology Review
18:12 techuser; IRC is better than children
18:13 TR News; The Fight Over Which Uses of [computer programs] Europe Should Outlaw https://www.wired.com/story/europe-law-outlaw-ai/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/11/buzzwords-from-brussels/
18:13 TR Bot; Fight Over Which Uses of Artificial Intelligence Europe Should Outlaw | WIRED
18:13 TR Bot; A Soup of Buzzwords From Brussels (the European Commission) | Techrights
18:13 schestowitz[TR2]; techuser: irc is safe for children
18:13 schestowitz[TR2]; because you cannot have creeps sending you pics and stuff
18:13 schestowitz[TR2]; I started using irc at age 13, IIRC
18:13 schestowitz[TR2]; chatted with other kids around thr world
18:14 techuser; sending links still works though
18:14 schestowitz[TR2]; if they click
18:14 techuser; "protect the children" is an excuse for censorship and reducing children's rights
18:14 schestowitz[TR2]; in the 1990s these issues were "niche"
18:15 schestowitz[TR2]; and parents did not worry about that sort of thing
18:15 schestowitz[TR2]; not sure if that atually got worse
18:15 schestowitz[TR2]; or the panic itself got worse
18:15 schestowitz[TR2]; even in the 1990s there were perverts online
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18:15 schestowitz[TR2]; benefit of the doubt: I'd say it DID get worse
18:16 techuser; I think it would cause some issues when the children see the real world for the first time
18:16 schestowitz[TR2]; and now parents can lose custody of kisds for just asking them to go to the shop nearby on their own
18:16 schestowitz[TR2]; when I was 13 I took a taxi on my own
18:16 schestowitz[TR2]; cause I missed the bus
18:16 schestowitz[TR2]; in 2022 it's unthinkable and shocking
18:16 techuser; these children will have issues growing up, and may have mental health issues
18:18 TR News; Facebook as espionage operation of the US government https://themarkup.org/pixel-hunt/2022/06/16/facebook-is-receiving-sensitive-medical-information-from-hospital-websites
18:18 TR Bot; Facebook Is Receiving Sensitive Medical Information from Hospital Websites The Markup
18:18 schestowitz[TR2]; techuser: I think we chatted about this a couple of years ago
18:18 MinceR; (no audio) https://apina.biz/190428.mp4?mode=sfw
18:18 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/190428.mp4
18:18 schestowitz[TR2]; how overprotective regimes and parents do this
18:18 schestowitz[TR2]; making the kids unable to mature
18:20 TR News; Soon 2022 capsules online that Lupa knows of.. gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
18:20 techuser; "we" didn't include me anyway
18:20 techuser; I appeared on techrights IRC no earlier than somewhere in 2021
18:21 TR News; Sybil Attacks on Airdrops https://matt-rickard.com/sybil-attacks-on-airdrops/ Source: matt-rickard | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//matt-rickard.com/sybil-attacks-on-airdrops/
18:21 TR Bot; Sybil Attacks on Airdrops
18:21 schestowitz[TR2]; techuser: right
18:22 schestowitz[TR2]; but therer is a broadly spread age group here
18:22 schestowitz[TR2]; always was
18:22 schestowitz[TR2]; some people here died of old age
18:22 schestowitz[TR2]; to tech rights/civil rights issues, kids arwe a "nuisance"
18:22 schestowitz[TR2]; because politicians exploit them
18:23 schestowitz[TR2]; and pass bullshit laws that aren't even meant to protect kids
18:23 schestowitz[TR2]; and some of those kids are not even kids
18:23 schestowitz[TR2]; a lot of Internet and Web filters are sold this way
18:23 techuser; may cause depopulation I think. The kids who never seen a real world, will they be able to marry and reproduce?
18:24 schestowitz[TR2]; while the mainstream bullshit pushes stuff that's actually proven to hurt kids
18:24 schestowitz[TR2]; like Facebook
18:24 techuser; people talk about "incels" these days
18:24 schestowitz[TR2]; there is also fertility aspect
18:24 schestowitz[TR2]; set aside affording to raise kids
18:24 techuser; maybe the world government wants to reduce the amount of humans on Earth
18:24 schestowitz[TR2]; incels is an excuse
18:25 schestowitz[TR2]; it's like the way they call terrorists people with "mental issues"
18:25 schestowitz[TR2]; like they are "rotten apples"
18:25 schestowitz[TR2]; some of them are just devour religious
18:25 schestowitz[TR2]; that's their actual mental issue
18:25 schestowitz[TR2]; capitalists don't want fewer people
18:26 schestowitz[TR2]; more people, more workers, m debt,. more consumption
18:26 schestowitz[TR2]; they want control
18:26 schestowitz[TR2]; social control
18:26 schestowitz[TR2]; at scale
18:27 schestowitz[TR2]; surveillance, curfews, military drafting, obligatory "school"..
18:27 schestowitz[TR2]; when I gre up kids did not have mobile phones
18:27 schestowitz[TR2]; they existed
18:27 schestowitz[TR2]; but not for kids
18:27 schestowitz[TR2]; now they are leashes on the neck of every teen
18:27 schestowitz[TR2]; tracked and mentally farmed f
18:27 schestowitz[TR2]; for mental signals
18:27 schestowitz[TR2]; and brainwashed
18:28 schestowitz[TR2]; mostly studied, then programmed
18:28 schestowitz[TR2]; via devices
18:28 TR News; Why Open Access To The ACM Digital Library Matters | Associations Now https://associationsnow.com/2022/07/the-way-things-were-why-open-access-to-the-acm-digital-library-matters/ Source: associationsnow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//associationsnow.com/2022/07/the-way-things-were-why-open-access-to-the-acm-digital-library-matters/
18:28 TR Bot; Why Open Access To The ACM Digital Library Matters | Associations Now
18:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:30 TR News; D-Waves 500-Qubit Machine Hits the Clown - IEEE Spectrum https://spectrum.ieee.org/d-wave-quantum-computer Source: spectrum | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//spectrum.ieee.org/d-wave-quantum-computer
18:30 TR Bot; D-Waves 500-Qubit Machine Hits the Cloud - IEEE Spectrum
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18:31 TR News; Scan QR codes right from your Linux Terminal https://lunduke.substack.com/p/scan-qr-codes-right-from-your-linux Source: lunduke | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lunduke.substack.com/p/scan-qr-codes-right-from-your-linux
18:31 TR Bot; Scan QR codes right from your Linux Terminal
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18:32 TR News; Old Vintage Computing Research: Crypto Ancienne 2.0 now brings TLS 1.3 to the Internet of Old Things (except BeOS) https://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2022/07/crypto-ancienne-20-now-brings-tls-13-to.html Source: oldvcr | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//oldvcr.blogspot.com/2022/07/crypto-ancienne-20-now-brings-tls-13-to.html
18:32 TR Bot; Old Vintage Computing Research: Crypto Ancienne 2.0 now brings TLS 1.3 to the Internet of Old Things (except BeOS)
18:33 TR News; "Cynics point out that philanthropy is just public relations, but there are people who do believe theyre helping the world. My concern is that even if thats true, theyd do so much more by directing their funding and action towards systemic change." https://rubenerd.com/philanthropy-only-attacks-the-symptoms/
18:33 TR Bot; Philanthropy only attacks the symptoms
18:34 TR News; Raptor says the Blackbird crunch ends in August (and maybe Arctic Terns too) https://www.talospace.com/2022/07/raptor-says-blackbird-crunch-ends-in.html Source: talospace | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.talospace.com/2022/07/raptor-says-blackbird-crunch-ends-in.html
18:34 TR Bot; Raptor says the Blackbird crunch ends in August (and maybe Arctic Terns too)
18:35 TR News; Bunch of clowns, buzzwords, hype and cryptic acronyms that refer to something very, vewwwwwwy owwwwlddd... https://matt-rickard.com/iac-strength-or-weakness-for-cloud-providers/
18:35 TR Bot; IaC: Strength or Weakness for Cloud Providers?
18:38 TR News; Limine bootloader introduction page http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167572#comment-34422
18:38 TR Bot; Limine Installer version 1.0 | Tux Machines
18:39 TR News; Steinar H. Gunderson on AV1 live streaming: Exploring SVT-AV1 rate control https://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2022-07-24-15-40_av1_live_streaming_exploring_svt_av1_rate_control.html Source: sesse | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2022-07-24-15-40_av1_live_streaming_exploring_svt_av1_rate_control.html
18:39 TR Bot; Steinar H. Gunderson
18:40 TR News; "How The Fuck Did Feynman Get Here !? Ive been re-rereading stories about Feynman again. People decry that no such geniuses exist today, they oft seem to decry the fact that no physicists since has developed such a thirst for understanding and beautiful ability to abstract for others." https://www.epistem.ink/p/how-the-fuck-did-feynman-get-here
18:40 TR Bot; How The Fuck Did Feynman Get Here !? - by George
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18:41 TR News; Banksters exploiting scientists to seem legit https://matt-rickard.com/shannons-demon/
18:41 TR Bot; Shannon's Demon
18:42 TR News; Robots were in warehouses for many years already https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/12/business/warehouse-technology-robotics.html
18:42 TR Bot; Robots Arent Done Reshaping Warehouses - The New York Times
18:43 TR News; "With modular components and an easy-to-use 3D interface, this interactive design pipeline enables anyone to create their own customized robotic hand" https://news.mit.edu/2022/hand-robotic-manipulator-design-0525
18:43 TR Bot; A helping hand for robotic manipulator design | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology
18:44 TR News; "GMail, before I gave up on its frankly appalling spam filter, used to pull the same trick on me. I have a lot of email folders, and this requires a scrollbar, which apparently would give me cancer if I saw it before I went hunt the scrollbar with my mouse in its general direction." https://www.positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2022/07/17/modern-technology-please-stop-trying-to-be-helpful/
18:44 TR Bot; Modern Technology: Please stop trying to be helpful Cliffski's Blog
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18:47 TR News; Robbing Australia: profits soar for gas giants, royalties and tax languish - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/robbing-australia-profits-soar-for-gas-giants-royalties-and-tax-languish/ Source: michaelwest | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/robbing-australia-profits-soar-for-gas-giants-royalties-and-tax-languish/
18:47 TR Bot; Robbing Australia: profits soar for gas giants, royalties and tax languish - Michael West
18:48 TR News; So what, so NetBSD users too can become SLAVES of criminals from Microsoft? https://rubenerd.com/netbsd-can-also-run-a-minecraft-server/
18:48 TR Bot; NetBSD can also run a Minecraft server
18:49 TR News; "I am typing this text in Emacs running on the Raspberry Pi B, logged on from my Acer Aspire." http://box.matto.nl/the-old-computer-challenge-2022.html
18:49 TR Bot; Old Computer Challenge 2022 - box.matto.nl
18:50 TR News; "The SAFE Submarine Cable Landing Station at Baie Jacotet was declared a restricted area through Government Notice 183 of 2004. The decision was taken by the cabinet on 8 October 2004 and the SAFE SCLS at Baie Jacotet has been a restricted area since 11 November 2004 in accordance with Section 13B of the Police Act." https://sysadmin-journal.com/baie-jacotet-scls-a-restricted-area/
18:50 TR Bot; Baie Jacotet SCLS, a restricted area
18:51 TR News; Military-First Approach.. proxy war with "outsourced" cannon fodder https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/16/biden_pledges_new_1_billion_ukraine
18:51 TR Bot; $1B More in U.S. Military Aid to Ukraine: Weapons Expert Urges Negotiation vs. Military-First Approach | Democracy Now!
18:52 TR News; "Juneteenth (Emancipation Day or Jubilee Day, as it was called in most early accounts) is a celebration of the news that informed Black people throughout Texas that the institution of slavery had been abolished" https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/06/16/juneteenth-reparations-reclaiming-stolen-stories
18:52 TR Bot; From Juneteenth to Reparations: Reclaiming Our Stolen Stories - YES! Magazine
18:53 TR News; Aadhaar advisory: the continuing saga of UIDAIs breach of privacy rights The Leaflet https://theleaflet.in/aadhaar-advisory-the-continuing-saga-of-uidais-breach-of-privacy-rights/ Source: theleaflet | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//theleaflet.in/aadhaar-advisory-the-continuing-saga-of-uidais-breach-of-privacy-rights/
18:53 TR Bot; Aadhaar advisory: the continuing saga of UIDAIs breach of privacy rights The Leaflet
18:57 MinceR; (no audio) https://apina.biz/190407.mp4?mode=sfw
18:57 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/190407.mp4
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18:58 TR News; Sounds like a fantasy: "I turned around, and both my sister and my smartphone were gone." https://rubenerd.com/a-dream-without-a-phone/ these devices do more harm than they help, on many levels
18:58 TR Bot; A dream without a phone
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
7 PM, July 24
19:00 psydroid2; Velociraptor Mortuus will be selling DeadPOWER again Soon(TM)
19:04 schestowitz[TR2]; ICBMachine
19:04 schestowitz[TR2]; threee, two, one... ignition
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19:07 TR News; "Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says he is open to sensible changes to the governments climate reform, but will not buckle under pressure from the Greens to increase the 43% emissions reduction target. Michael West on Albos first two months in office and the looming climate clash." https://michaelwest.com.au/albo-returns-from-his-honeymoon-bumps-into-adam-bandt/
19:07 TR Bot; Albanese returns from his honeymoon, bumps into Adam Bandt - Michael West
19:08 TR News; Does Troy Hunt talk about bribes from Microsoft? https://www.troyhunt.com/if-youre-not-paying-for-the-product-you-are-possibly-just-consuming-goodwill-for-free/
19:08 TR Bot; Troy Hunt: If You're Not Paying for the Product, You Are... Possibly Just Consuming Goodwill for Free
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19:09 TR News; Verifone POS hacking - th0mas.nl https://th0mas.nl/2022/07/18/verifone-pos-hacking/ Source: th0mas | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//th0mas.nl/2022/07/18/verifone-pos-hacking/
19:09 TR Bot; POS hacking - th0mas.nl
19:10 TR News; "Raku is a great software language that draws on the scripting heritage of perl. The newly minted raku Dan modules provide Data ANalytics (geddit?) capabilities to raku for data science and engineering use cases. (Intro slides & demo video here). This is one in an occasional series of blog posts that seek to explore the whys & wherefores of raku Dan." https://p6steve.wordpress.com/2022/07/24/is-raku-dan-rubbersonic/
19:10 TR Bot; Is raku Dan RubberSonic? Physics::Journey
19:12 TR News; Slackware LibreOffice 7.3.5 and updates for Chromium 103 (also -ungoogled) https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/libre-office-7-3-5-and-updates-for-chromium-103-also-ungoogled/
19:12 TR Bot; Libre Office 7.3.5 and updates for Chromium 103 (also -ungoogled) | Alien Pastures
19:12 TR News; GNOME Radio 16 on GNOME 42 Presentation at GUADEC 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167603
19:12 TR Bot; GNOME Radio 16 on GNOME 42 Presentation at GUADEC 2022 | Tux Machines
19:13 TR News; DNA Typewriter Taps Out a Record Inside Cells | HHMI https://www.hhmi.org/news/dna-typewriter-taps-out-record-inside-cells Source: hhmi | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.hhmi.org/news/dna-typewriter-taps-out-record-inside-cells
19:13 TR Bot; DNA Typewriter Taps Out a Record Inside Cells | HHMI
19:13 TR News; Servers, now clown https://matt-rickard.com/the-quick-uptake-of-arm-on-cloud/
19:13 TR Bot; The Quick Uptake of ARM on Cloud
19:14 TR News; Smart this, smart that. Usually means mass surveillance https://staceyoniot.com/want-a-connected-home-without-a-cloud-get-smarter-sensors/
19:14 TR Bot; Want a connected home without a cloud? Get smarter sensors. - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
19:15 TR News; Even "self-hosted" smart [sic] home occasionally helps spy on you if connected to a device like a "phone" that sends some data upstream, maybe without you even being notified
19:16 TR News; "HEY HI" BS everywhere, even IEEE Spectrum. They call everything "HEY HI" now https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2022/07/will-ai-remove-submarine-stealth.html
19:16 TR Bot; The Eponymous Pickle: Will AI Remove Submarine Stealth?
19:17 TR News; "Scott Morrison has is already enjoying the perks of life as an ex-prime minister, turning up in Seoul last week to hobnob with other has-beens such as [far right] Mike Pence" https://michaelwest.com.au/the-ex-files-where-is-the-life-for-discards-of-the-parliamentary-bubble/
19:17 TR Bot; The Ex-Files: where is the life for discards of the parliamentary bubble? - Michael West
19:18 TR News; Analyze Your Amazon Data with Python - Earthly Blog <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://earthly.dev/blog/analyze-amzndata-pyth/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>
19:18 TR Bot; Analyze Your Amazon Data with Python - Earthly Blog
19:19 TR News; Grafana Loki and what can go wrong with label cardinality https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/GrafanaLokiCardinalityProblem
19:19 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/GrafanaLokiCardinalityProblem
19:22 TR News; Good Bye Peugeot --- Hello Alfa MiTo and 75 gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220724-bye-peugeot-hello-alfa.gmi
19:24 TR News; I think the number of unique IPs in Techrights Gemini capsule doubled since last year, but don't track this closely. Sure thing is, number of Gemini users keeps growing.
19:25 TR News; Gemini is a big middle finger to the few companies which treat WWW (EME etc.) as merely a transport layer for their array of malware
19:26 TR News; "Humans are social animals, and it seems reasonable to assume that any transhuman condition we can wrap our minds around will also be a social one for most of its participants." http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/07/crimes-against-transhumanity.html
19:26 TR Bot; Crimes against Transhumanity - Charlie's Diary
19:28 TR News; Oligarchs who say we should 'colonise' other planets dwell in luxuries they know only THEY can afford instead of fixing this planet (they don't mind if the rest are left to burn or starve here). Not too shockingly, the same sociopathic people who hop from one wife to the next without trying to repair what they already had.
19:29 TR News; Code Breaker: Meet the Man Who Virtually Invented Computer Art - ELEPHANT https://elephant.art/code-breaker-meet-the-man-who-virtually-invented-computer-art-25052022/ Source: elephant | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//elephant.art/code-breaker-meet-the-man-who-virtually-invented-computer-art-25052022/
19:29 TR Bot; Code Breaker: Meet the Man Who Virtually Invented Computer Art - ELEPHANT
19:30 TR News; In a Post-Roe World, the Future of Digital Privacy Looks Even Grimmer - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/technology/personaltech/abortion-privacy-roe-surveillance.html Source: nytimes | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/technology/personaltech/abortion-privacy-roe-surveillance.html
19:30 TR Bot; In a Post-Roe World, the Future of Digital Privacy Looks Even Grimmer - The New York Times
19:31 TR News; Humans are cruel, very selfish animals https://news.wsu.edu/press-release/2022/06/01/automated-drones-could-scare-birds-off-agricultural-fields/
19:31 TR Bot; Automated drones could scare birds off agricultural fields WSU Insider
19:33 TR News; This is an interesting quote: "i dont support any sectarian ideology including LGBTQ." https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/07/18/white-supremacists-violently-target-pride-events/ "sectarian ideology" is the wrong term though, conflating militant elements with a condition
19:33 TR Bot; White Supremacists Violently Target Pride Events neritam
19:34 TR News; For Indigenous Peoples, Abortion Is a Religious Right - YES! Magazine https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/06/30/abortion-indigenous-peoples-reproductive-health Source: yesmagazine | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/06/30/abortion-indigenous-peoples-reproductive-health
19:34 TR Bot; For Indigenous Peoples, Abortion Is a Religious Right - YES! Magazine
19:34 TR News; Surveillance inside homes https://staceyoniot.com/did-the-iot-doom-connected-devices-in-the-home/
19:34 TR Bot; Did the IoT doom connected devices in the home? - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
19:36 TR News; ICBM has basically 'donated' its code to Microsoft's proprietary software prison https://www.datanami.com/2022/07/18/ibm-research-open-sources-deep-search-tools/
19:36 TR Bot; IBM Research Open-Sources Deep Search Tools
19:37 TR News; Proprietary voting machines ought not be used in the first place https://www.npr.org/2022/06/21/1105848096/jan-6-committee-hearing-transcript
19:37 TR Bot; Transcript: The fourth Jan. 6 committee hearing on its investigation : NPR
19:37 TR News; Patents and patent greed https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/23/world_trade_organization_covid_patent_monopolies
19:37 TR Bot; Global Access to COVID-19 Vaccines & Tests Limited by WTO Deal Pushed by Rich Countries & Big Pharma | Democracy Now!
19:39 TR News; Marketing predators try to paint their sinister agenda as a science https://towardsdatascience.com/modeling-marketing-mix-using-smoothing-splines-98dc8e84c367?gi=70cab53e99d8
19:39 TR Bot; Modeling Marketing Mix Using Smoothing Splines | by Slava Kisilevich | Jul, 2022 | Towards Data Science
19:41 TR News; "Anyone whos read one or two of my Long Links curations knows that Im fascinated by the ongoing conundra in Astrophysics and Cosmology on the subject of Dark Matter. There are a couple of recent developments that are worth noting." https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/07/18/Long-Dark-Matter-Links
19:41 TR Bot; ongoing by Tim Bray Dark Matter Fun
19:42 TR News; "Employees who switched jobs during the pandemic received salary bumps and permission to work remotely. Those perks are now under threat." https://www.wsj.com/articles/tech-workers-long-got-what-they-wanted-thats-over-11657877406
19:42 TR Bot; Workers Long Got What They Wanted. Thats Over. - WSJ
19:43 TR News; "43% of this nation, 52% of the children, 68% 60% of Black people, 33% of 30% of white people, 68% of Latinos, and so forth and so on, 87 million people who are uninsured or underinsured" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/17/poor_peoples_campaign_2022_washington_march
19:43 TR Bot; Poor Peoples March on Washington Saturday Demands Moral Reset on Poverty, Voting Rights, Climate | Democracy Now!
19:45 TR News; "I dont know if this would work well in a team setting. My metafile examples all fall into two categories: metafiles that represent different possibilities for the same file (debug, profiling, optimization), and ones which represent a set of different files (versions, compilation targets)." https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/on-metafiles/
19:45 TR Bot; On Metafiles Buttondown
19:46 TR News; "In Germany, there have been repeated cases of contradictory election target group" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/new-rules-on-political-advertising-to-stop-voter-manipulation/
19:46 TR Bot; New Rules on political advertising to stop voter manipulation! Patrick Breyer
19:55 TR News; "Every time someone tried to connect, it tried to do its job, but because there was nothing to back it, it could not. I felt sorry for the little Dyno. I did not have the heart to simply turn it off." https://asylum.madhouse-project.org/blog/2022/07/18/the-story-of-byr/
19:55 TR Bot; The story of Byr - Asylum
19:57 TR News; "I wonder how many other colour photos from the turn of the century are out there? Id love to see them." https://rubenerd.com/autochrome-lumiere-mauretania/
19:57 TR Bot; Autochrome Lumire Mauretania
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19:58 TR News; Coalition cowardice over environment report - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/coalition-cowardice-over-environment-report/ Source: michaelwest | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/coalition-cowardice-over-environment-report/
19:58 TR Bot; Coalition cowardice over environment report - Michael West
19:59 TR News; Stable Kernels: 5.18.14 and 5.15.57 ? Tux Machines ? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167604
19:59 TR Bot; Stable Kernels: 5.18.14 and 5.15.57 | Tux Machines
8 PM, July 24
20:01 TR News; [PATCH 5.10 000/148] 5.10.133-rc1 review https://lwn.net/ml/linux-kernel/20220723095224.302504400@linuxfoundation.org/
20:01 TR Bot; 5.10 000/148] 5.10.133-rc1 review [LWN.net]
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20:02 TR News; "In his book On Writing, Steven King talks about where he gets ideas. Its a common question, I think, for anyone who writes steadily. I know people have asked me, How do you find stuff to write about? What King says resonates with me: I dont go out seeking ideas, they whiz by me all day; Ive just gotten better at recognizing them." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/finding-stuff-to-write-about/
20:02 TR Bot; Finding Stuff to Write About - Jim Nielsens Blog
20:03 TR News; When courts become political offices with endless terms and no elections https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/07/05/supreme-court-legitimacy-2
20:03 TR Bot; The Supreme Courts Crisis of Legitimacy - YES! Magazine
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20:05 TR News; "Funny to see what kind of head-banging creating concoction of talk Zini delivered to DebConf 2022. Obviously, no lesson learned, no reflection on their own failures to act properly. Always putting forth their private animosities over objective reasoning." https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/07/enrico-zini-on-dam-and-responsability/
20:05 TR Bot; Enrico Zini on DAM and "responsability" | There and back again
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20:11 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167605
20:11 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
20:11 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167606
20:11 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
20:11 TR News; Software: sq, InfCloud, dicom, 3DimViewer, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167608
20:11 TR Bot; Software: sq, InfCloud, dicom, 3DimViewer, and More | Tux Machines
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20:37 TR News; Links 24/07/2022: sq 0.27.0 Released | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/24/sq-0-27-0-released/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/24/sq-0-27-0-released/
20:37 TR Bot; Links 24/07/2022: sq 0.27.0 Released | Techrights
20:37 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167609
20:37 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
20:37 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167610
20:37 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
20:37 TR News; Hardware Hacking and Modding Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167611
20:37 TR Bot; Hardware Hacking and Modding | Tux Machines
20:37 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167612
20:38 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
20:39 schestowitz; some company trying to bribe me:
20:39 schestowitz; "
20:39 schestowitz; Hi Roy,
20:39 schestowitz; Hope you had a nice weekend. Just checking in to see if you've got any interest in reviewing the super-smart self-emptying Dreame D10 Plus robot vacuum/mop.
20:40 schestowitz; "
20:41 schestowitz[TR2]; The same person also offered a laptop for "review"
20:41 schestowitz[TR2]; sad thing is,
20:41 schestowitz[TR2]; a lot of reviews you find online are fake
20:42 schestowitz[TR2]; by people who accept these bribes
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20:51 TR News; This is inane, mindless jingoism from John Gruber https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/07/23/apple-silicon-inconvenient-truth
20:51 TR Bot; Daring Fireball: Apple Silicon Is an Inconvenient Truth
20:51 TR News; LOL. "Apple silicon is a profoundly inconvenient truth for many computer enthusiasts who do not like Macs, so theyve gone into denial, like Fox News cultists and climate change. Its that simple"... what next? Calling people who aren't Apple customers "Apple deniers"?
20:52 TR News; "Bluetooth is an open industry standard"... err, no, John Gruber. It's a bloody PATENT CARTEL and it introduces security problems. Hype for gimmicks. https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/07/23/bluetooth-unusually-painful
20:52 TR Bot; Daring Fireball: CNN: Why Bluetooth Remains an Unusually Painful Technology After Two Decades
20:54 TR News; John Gruber = Apple clergy. If you don't buy Apple, you are an infidel and on par with climate science deniers!
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20:57 TR News; "It's been a long time since the altruistic early webputting content out there for the its own sake. The web doesn't feel transactional anymore, either. If I could put a label on the current state of things, it feels extractive." https://ericwbailey.design/writing/saying-thank-you/
20:57 TR Bot; Saying thank you Eric Bailey
20:58 DaemonFC; The fact that Debian went to WIPO to get the name instead of to an American court of law is.....unsettling.
20:58 TR News; I wrote a new track... Finally! gemini://tilde.team/~aprilnightk/gemlog/2022/07/24-new-track.gmi
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
20:59 DaemonFC; US-based domains shouldn't be subject to some "international organization". It should have to be argued in an American court using American trademark laws.
20:59 TR News; "Thank you, team Ardour, I really love this DAW. (Compiling it required a dirty hack. If you try to compile version 6.9.0 and it fails, let me know, I will share my dirty hack.)" gemini://tilde.team/~aprilnightk/gemlog/2022/07/24-new-track.gmi
20:59 DaemonFC; I actually looked into why WIPO claims to have jurisdiction over Americans, and of course it was Bill Clinton.
9 PM, July 24
21:00 schestowitz[TR2]; bruce perens said the debian trademark should be in the public domain
21:00 DaemonFC; Are there any top-level domains that are beyond WIPO?
21:00 DaemonFC; Maybe we should provide a list about that.
21:00 schestowitz[TR2]; WIOPO is corrupt
21:00 schestowitz[TR2]; iirc, they also went after mjg at one point
21:00 schestowitz[TR2]; http://techrights.org/wiki/WIPO
21:00 TR Bot; WIPO - Techrights
21:00 schestowitz[TR2]; WIPO just works for oligarchy
21:01 schestowitz[TR2]; more so than typical tribunals
21:01 schestowitz[TR2]; http://techrights.org/wiki/Francis_Gurry
21:01 TR Bot; Francis Gurry - Techrights
21:01 DaemonFC; Yes, but like patent trolls going after Microsoft, that doesn't necessarily mean the concept of patent trolls is a good thing just because it blows up on the bad guys sometimes.
21:01 DaemonFC; It benefits them more often than it blows up in their face, so they continue pushing it.
21:01 schestowitz[TR2]; blow up in their fake?
21:01 schestowitz[TR2]; does it bankrupt them>?
21:01 schestowitz[TR2]; no
21:02 schestowitz[TR2]; it bankrupts the small guys
21:02 schestowitz[TR2]; Biden and Trump BAIL OUT Microsoft
21:02 schestowitz[TR2]; so even if they "lose" they just enrich some lawyers
21:02 schestowitz[TR2]; and keep on going
21:02 DaemonFC; It hits them for millions of dollars sometimes, but that's small potatoes compared to how it benefits them overall.
21:02 schestowitz[TR2]; yes
21:02 schestowitz[TR2]; like the patent system
21:02 DaemonFC; They can just pass on the loss to people who don't even want to be their "customer" such as forcing them to buy Windows licenses whether they want to or not, or ever use it, and jacking up the price to reflect the losses to patent trolls.
21:02 schestowitz[TR2]; anyway, bill clinton did nafta iirc
21:03 schestowitz[TR2]; he also spent some time in no-man\'s land
21:03 schestowitz[TR2]; lolita express
21:03 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe with that other bill too at some point
21:03 schestowitz[TR2]; uncle bil
21:03 schestowitz[TR2]; aka "creepy"
21:03 schestowitz[TR2]; bbl
21:03 DaemonFC; NAFTA was "bipartisan". When they say something is "bipartisan" it means they've found something that everyone agrees is horrible to pass unanimously.
21:03 DaemonFC; It means really watch out.
21:04 DaemonFC; What's going to be hilarious.....I was considering this in the car, is when all of these white male tech workers finally get what they "want" and women, like immigrants, start flooding into the tech sector too.
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21:05 DaemonFC; And they can finally figure out what it's like to get laid off en masse or watch their wages flatline for decades until they're like auto mechanics or factory workers.
21:05 DaemonFC; Making $15-20 an hour, like they were 10-15-20 years ago.
21:06 DaemonFC; The corporate types always want MORE of a labor pool to draw from because it gives the workers less negotiating power.
21:07 DaemonFC; When there are double the amount of people who can do that job, why should they give you a fair paycheck, lots of vacation time, good health insurance, huge retirement plan match, and a free cafeteria and childcare center?
21:07 DaemonFC; There's going to be 10 people just like you whether it's H1-B or "women" or something.
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21:07 DaemonFC; So they can hide their assault on labor power under the guise of "diversity and inclusion".
21:07 DaemonFC; And the fact that Debian is doing these tells you they're being "controlled".
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21:09 DaemonFC; Suddenly those men who were getting all these great job perks and their spouse didn't have to work at all will end up with shitty wages and their spouse is forced into the jobs market, they'll have health insurance where the deductible goes up another $1,000 a year just like everybody else, and both their employers will say childcare is "not our problem". Go figure it out on what your job...
21:09 DaemonFC; ...paid 15 years ago.
21:10 DaemonFC; They're promoting something that will hurt themselves terribly. They learned nothing from watching it happen to, say, automotive workers.
21:11 DaemonFC; schestowitz It's Corporate America that always wants something for nothing. Take the birth rate for example. They're super pissed nobody is having kids, but they don't pay enough to even entertain the idea, and they're saying they'll pay your travel expenses to get an abortion.
21:11 DaemonFC; So they create the problem, then they complain about it.
21:13 DaemonFC; People aren't happy with the way their lives are going. They're not happy that their family lineage comes to an unceremonious dead-end while Bill Gates considers human life to be viruses with legs that should be sterilized and driven into such poverty that the only way to keep anything is to not reproduce.
21:13 DaemonFC; But at the same time, they do nothing to fight it.
21:13 *psydroid2 is surprised no one has tried to take out Bill Gates yet
21:14 DaemonFC; The Gates Foundation hasn't improved a single human life in a single country it has operated in. More often than not, it does unethical experiments on millions of people who go to the news later and say how sad they are that they bought into it.
21:14 DaemonFC; The Gates Foundation lies worse than Trump. Going to Africa and telling them circumcision would make them totally immune to HIV.
21:15 DaemonFC; 98% of men in the US are circumcised and the 8 or so men I know with HIV are all circumcised.
21:15 DaemonFC; And those African men that got snipped said that they threw caution to the wind because the Gates Foundation said "totally immune" and many of them have HIV now, and it's caused an explosion of other diseases.
21:16 DaemonFC; And where is Saint Bill of Gates? Not talking about it. That's where he is.
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21:17 DaemonFC; Somehow, millions of people, a large number of which can't read at all, manage to sign consent forms that are written by attorneys from the Gates Foundation.
21:17 DaemonFC; psydroid2is surprised no one has tried to take out Bill Gates yet
21:17 DaemonFC; He's not well liked even in the United States where his corrupt media presence is worse than it is anywhere else.
21:18 DaemonFC; At least from what I've managed to ascertain.
21:19 DaemonFC; He focuses most of the media corruption on the English-speaking world. Maybe that's just because he doesn't need it elsewhere.
21:19 MinceR; http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=2450
21:19 TR Bot; Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 07/19/2022
21:19 DaemonFC; It costs almost nothing to corrupt officials in developing countries.
21:19 DaemonFC; In Mexico, if you have twenty bucks, most cops will look the other way and take a cigarette break.
21:19 DaemonFC; So you can imagine what their politicians are like.
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21:20 DaemonFC; Mexico is not a safe place for Americans to be. The kidnappings are really the least of it.
21:20 DaemonFC; The police are usually in on it, whatever "it" is.
21:22 DaemonFC; They can be "bad" in America, it's not unheard of for cops to be "on the take", but it's not so out of control that the military often has to come in and disarm the entire police force so they can take over law enforcement without being shot in the back.
21:22 DaemonFC; The problems going on that are pouring over the border with Mexico are incidental lately.
21:22 DaemonFC; It's China by proxy.
21:23 DaemonFC; They want to poison Americans with fentanyl and get the money back without having to admit that it's where it's all coming from.
21:24 DaemonFC; I honestly believe that the fentanyl trafficking has the backing of the Communist Party in China. There's not much that goes on in China unless they're allowing it.
21:25 DaemonFC; Whoever wrote the latest DEA report on this problem was saying that Xi has plans to "crack down" on it, which just means that the DEA is repeating Communist propaganda. The Chinese government has no intention of shutting that down. Too much money.
21:26 DaemonFC; The worst part about Biden's presidency is that things are actually getting so bad in this country it's like something out of the Old Testament unfolding on Sodom and Gomorrah, and where is the President?
21:26 DaemonFC; Off eating ice cream cones.
21:27 MinceR; instead, you could have a president who is _causing_ the problems :>
21:28 DaemonFC; The Democrats and Republicans have turned this place into "Sodom and Gomorrah". If you look, actually read what kind of moral corruption was at work there in Leviticus, it wasn't about homosexuality. It was exactly what Democrats and Republicans are up to here.
21:29 DaemonFC; Being uncharitable to strangers was actually the worst of it, apparently. Okay, the Republicans have nailed that. It's called Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Border Patrol.
21:29 DaemonFC; Then moving on, you had all sorts of sexual perversions. Too many to list, just every kind of perversion. Democrats. To top it all off, if you get pregnant, just kill it. Right up to the time of birth.
21:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:30 DaemonFC; A person who says they are a biblical person could not support any of this, yet still 78% of Americans say they are Christians, and this happens.
21:30 DaemonFC; Someone's electing them!
21:32 DaemonFC; There's never really a mention of homosexuality as such in the account of God destroying Sodom and Gomorrah. It was being uncharitable to foreigners and "general sexual perversion" where the last straw was the villagers attempting to rape the angels sent to Lot's house.
21:33 DaemonFC; And so it was really just this "general corruption". It got beaten into an anti-gay narrative just by people who are morally corrupt themselves and don't like gays.
21:33 DaemonFC; MinceRinstead, you could have a president who is _causing_ the problems :>
21:33 DaemonFC; Oh but he is!
21:34 DaemonFC; I have a post about ready to go up about how disgusting some gay men are.
21:34 DaemonFC; With the whole Monkeypox outbreak.
21:34 DaemonFC; Like, 95% of the problem is gay men on Grindr fucking their way across Europe and Thailand, just like AIDS.
21:35 DaemonFC; Going "Don't blame us! Anyone can get it! Theoretically! I knew there was something off about that one guy's dick! Maybe that's where I got Monkeypox!"
21:35 DaemonFC; "Or maybe they weren't bleaching the sex swing at that bathhouse in Hamburg."
21:36 DaemonFC; How is anyone supposed to react to stories like this where the "news", NBC in this case, interviews 18 gay men with Monkeypox, and it's all things like this, and at least one of them freely admits he already had HIV?
21:37 DaemonFC; Nobody knows what to tell the contact tracers, because they didn't know any of those men well enough to get even their first name.
21:37 DaemonFC; And if you say anything at all about how nasty this Grindr thing is and how disgusting the majority of the people on it are, you're a homophobe. Even if you're gay.
21:38 DaemonFC; In my opinion, men like this are like NAMBLA. At least the majority of gay men knew what to do with NAMBLA when they were trying to crash PRIDE events. Punch them in the face and drag them out by the collar.
21:39 DaemonFC; Only with these people, you don't want to touch them. It's like the Borg, only with Monkeypox.
21:39 DaemonFC; :)
21:39 DaemonFC; Of course Chicago is an epicenter of the Monkeypox pandemic in the United States. It's gross. It's just so gross. To say nothing about there being a bathhouse there.
21:40 DaemonFC; I have never been to a bathhouse in my life. I know what goes on in there. People sniffing "poppers" and letting 20 men they don't know fuck them until they're so loose that it's probably like throwing a hotdog through a football stadium.
21:41 DaemonFC; Then they're on NBC going "I can't believe all these lesions on my asshole! Can you!?" How did it happen? Who "nose"? Too soon? :)
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21:43 DaemonFC; But how did Biden add to this problem? Despite all of these nasty fucks who are just never going to go away, there's a Smallpox vaccine stockpile in the US with enough doses for everyone.
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21:43 DaemonFC; Rotting away in government warehouses while Biden, Chuck, and Nancy invest in a company that has a patented vaccine that nobody has ever used before. Then they buy those.
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21:45 DaemonFC; And then you have these idiot "public health officials" in Chicago saying "Do you have skin? You can get Monkeypox!". Okay, well, that's not untrue, but I'm also not rubbing up against random strangers from Grindr and then surprised later if I'm covered in lesions. I'm not doing that.
21:45 DaemonFC; So there's like almost no risk.
21:52 DaemonFC; "When AIDS was new, public health experts that asks for the bathhouses in San Francisco to be shut down, where gay men went as the "Grindr" of the time (some still do), mainly to do drugs and each other, those people got booed off the stage.
21:52 DaemonFC; Worse, many gay men accused AIDS of being "trumped up" by the Reagan Administration to "put gay men back in the closet".
21:52 DaemonFC; Yes, the first AIDS deniers were gay men who didn't want to cope with the mess they got themselves into, and later came the people who wanted to sell worthless supplements. Many of the AIDS deniers who got AIDS were the first to die, since you can't treat a disease you won't even admit you have.
21:52 DaemonFC; Instead, the gay men in the 1980s blamed a Republican President that they just didn't happen to like already, and said that anyone who told them to stop having unprotected sex and wear a condom, and shut down the bathhouses was being "sex negative" and "homophobic", and they didn't spare gay men who just wanted to put a lid on the AIDS crisis and save lives."
21:53 DaemonFC; "There's absolutely no reason to expect that to change now that the new pandemic is Monkeypox."
21:54 DaemonFC; "There will be victims of Monkeypox who didn't bring it on themselves."
21:54 DaemonFC; "The media is drawing attention away from the people who should get the vaccine first. Healthcare professionals, school children (shared playground equipment, toys, etc.), not people who go on sex vacations across Europe, Thailand, and the Philippines, and use Grindr."
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21:55 DaemonFC; "The "gay community" has known that there were way worse things out there than Monkeypox since the AIDS crisis, 40 years ago, and I'll bet you most or all of the men in the NBC article didn't wear a condom."
21:55 DaemonFC; "Not that they bothered to report such, because it would just confirm that these people are as gross as you suspected already."
21:56 DaemonFC; "Monkeypox is just going to be another animal at the zoo by the time our idiot President is finished eating ice cream cones while it spreads across the United States. "
21:57 DaemonFC; "If they cared about this being a "global emergency", Biden, Chuck, and Nancy would open up the government warehouses and get the forklifts rolling and get the Smallpox vaccine rolling out. We know it's safe. My mom had to take it in 1963 when it was a routine childhood vaccination."
21:58 DaemonFC; "Another upside would be, if Putin and Xi decide to throw the United States into further chaos by releasing a Smallpox pandemic onto us, we'll already be vaccinated. "
21:58 DaemonFC; "(Although I believe such a situation is unlikely. Diseases are hard to control. The Chinese couldn't stop COVID-19 even with all the options of having a brutal Communist dictatorship on the table. It was far easier for them to control the narrative by throwing out journalists from free countries.)"
10 PM, July 24
22:00 DaemonFC; "Something that is mostly going around among a bunch of slobs that the media digs up that are all on a gay f**k app, and the healthcare professionals unlucky enough to have to take care of them when they show up and want their lesions tended to, just doesn't sound like a me problem at this point in my life."
22:08 MinceR; (cat) (no audio) https://apina.biz/58648.gif?mode=sfw
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22:10 AdmFubar; https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/07/massive-losses-define-epidemic-of-pig-butchering/
22:10 TR Bot; Massive Losses Define Epidemic of Pig Butchering Krebs on Security
22:29 AdmFubar; https://www.livemint.com/news/world/ai-gone-wrong-chess-robot-breaks-child-s-finger-at-russia-tournament-11658674872366.html
22:29 TR Bot; AI gone wrong? Chess robot breaks child's finger at Russia tournament | Mint
22:31 MinceR; "A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing."
22:31 MinceR; not for long!
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22:39 AdmFubar; wookies aren't the only thing that will tear your arm off if they lose
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22:44 phanes; im not passed doing that
22:48 MinceR; war droid vs wookiee "chess" match
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22:51 techuser; hi
22:52 matey; hi
22:52 matey; i assume youve seen this by now: https://www.abuseonline.org/
22:52 TR Bot; TAODB
22:53 matey; the thing phanes is working on
22:53 techuser; don't remember such website
22:53 matey; oh its one of the people in here
22:53 techuser; I don't actively read logs
22:53 matey; idk how long its been online, fairly new though
22:53 matey; basically tracking cancel culture
22:54 matey; like cancelculturepedia
22:54 matey; thats what it looks like so far at least
22:54 phanes; not quite
22:54 matey; no?
22:54 phanes; its to address specifically serial defamers in foss
22:54 matey; oh ok
22:54 matey; so more limited in scope
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22:56 phanes; if someone actually did something and it winds up on the site it doesn't deserve an entry unless its listed as a pattern of behaviour that invovles defamation or is linked to defamation in other places on a timeline
22:57 phanes; like
22:57 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/grandmai
22:57 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - GrandmAI
22:58 phanes; lets say matey is killing homeless people in his free time and someone publishes a video of it -- that wouldn't get an entry unless its an action by someone involved in acts of defamation elsewhere, and it is listed as a controversial association
22:58 phanes; that said
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
22:59 phanes; it will probably not be unheard of for "controversial associations" to later get moved to serial defamation categories as details unfold, this happens sometimes, we think its a legitimate action that later turns out to be defamation
11 PM, July 24
23:00 matey; and how does that shift happen
23:00 matey; like what does it look like when you go "oh, hmm. actually..."
23:00 matey; because ive rarely seen that firsthand
23:00 phanes; mv $action_listing_parent $defamation_directory
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23:00 matey; oh sure
23:00 matey; yeah
23:01 matey; i meant in a more observational sense, but that works
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23:01 matey; can you think of an example
23:02 phanes; matey, so as im going through some events, i am looking at one that the details just don't add up and its looking more and more like systematic defamation by one person cast as a collaborative effort. I keep it as a linked controversy for the time being, but, when I have enough credible documentation to assert that it is defamation -- if it gets to that point -- I will move it to the parent dir and write a summary linking to the sources
23:03 matey; thats pretty straightforward
23:04 phanes; that eventually evolves to a body of documentation that systematically breaks down the whole thing and exposes the problems
23:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz Is there a way I could easily transfer my blogging to Gemini?
23:06 phanes; in some cases we may not be able to say "this is defamation" but when it's clear that it is we can do a credibility rating
23:07 matey; that should be interesting
23:07 phanes; im sure the retaliation will provide additional content :)
23:07 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: you can host it from your laptop
23:08 matey; win win
23:12 TR News; On Sarcasm - boz.com https://liveboz.substack.com/p/on-sarcasm?r=71ygg&utm_medium=ios Source: liveboz | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//liveboz.substack.com/p/on-sarcasm?r=71ygg&utm_medium=ios
23:12 TR Bot; On Sarcasm - boz.com
23:13 TR News; Update: base64dump.py Version 0.0.23 https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/07/19/update-base64dump-py-version-0-0-23/
23:13 TR Bot; Update: base64dump.py Version 0.0.23 | Didier Stevens
23:14 TR News; Update: sortcanon Version 0.0.2 https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/07/20/update-sortcanon-version-0-0-2/
23:14 TR Bot; Update: sortcanon Version 0.0.2 | Didier Stevens
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23:20 TR News; Delete All the "Apps". Better yet, stop using "smart" phones https://current.workingdirectory.net/posts/2022/dont-panic-organize/
23:20 TR Bot; Jamie McClelland | Deleting an app won't bring back Roe v Wade
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23:22 TR News; How to Switch From Debian Stable to Debian Testing https://www.makeuseof.com/switch-from-debian-stable-to-testing/ Source: makeuseof | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.makeuseof.com/switch-from-debian-stable-to-testing/
23:22 TR Bot; How to Switch From Debian Stable to Debian Testing
23:22 TR News; Getting Started with WiFi on Raspberry PI Pico W and MicroPython https://peppe8o.com/getting-started-with-wifi-on-raspberry-pi-pico-w-and-micropython/ Source: peppe8o | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//peppe8o.com/getting-started-with-wifi-on-raspberry-pi-pico-w-and-micropython/
23:22 TR Bot; Getting Started with WiFi on Raspberry PI Pico W and MicroPython
23:24 TR News; unlockR - Stupid Simple App to Remove PDF Password in Linux & Windows Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167614
23:24 TR Bot; unlockR - Stupid Simple App to Remove PDF Password in Linux & Windows | Tux Machines
23:27 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/24/thoughts-on-monkeypox-as-experts-recommend-vaccination-to-gay-men-first-plus-why-monkeypox-is-in-the-media-in-the-first-place/
23:27 TR Bot; Thoughts on Monkeypox as experts recommend vaccination to gay men first. Plus: Why Monkeypox is in the media in the first place. BaronHK's Rants
23:27 DaemonFC; "The states could just buy all of the contact tracing data from Grindr about who youve been having sex with. No warrant. Grindr does sell it. To anyone. The state doesnt want to spook people by admitting it can contact trace that way, I guess.
23:27 DaemonFC; Immigration and Customs Enforcement buys a ton of data from these app companies.
23:27 DaemonFC; The government knows everything it cares to, because youre leaking it all over the place. They just dont want to make it so obvious that it creeps you out. You getting Monkeypox isnt really a problem for them.
23:27 DaemonFC; I was talking to a Chicago Police Detective about Grindr and he said they love Grindr because they can just serve Grindr with a warrant and get all kinds of stuff and that they do it all the time.
23:27 DaemonFC; Thats in addition to the fact that undercover cops hide out on it.
23:27 DaemonFC; Like the majority of smartphone apps and social networks, Grindr is effectively an arm of the state. Why would the state cut off their arm?"
23:28 DaemonFC; 2793 words
23:28 DaemonFC; :)
23:29 TR News; Poor sports: how Morrison put a shark bite on the taxpayer - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/scott-morrison-rugby-league-rorts/ Source: michaelwest | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/scott-morrison-rugby-league-rorts/
23:29 TR Bot; Poor sports: how Morrison put a shark bite on the taxpayer - Michael West
23:29 DaemonFC; And that's after I cleaned up and edited it and took out some parts that were redundant.
23:30 TR News; "Koch Industries spent $3.1 million in the first three months of the Trump administration, largely to ensure confirmation of Scott Pruitt as head of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)." https://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/news/200/thomas-mcgarity-on-trump-and-the-fall-of-law-and-order-for-corporations/
23:30 TR Bot; Thomas McGarity on Trump and the Fall of Law and Order for Corporations
23:30 DaemonFC; Still spotting things.
23:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz It's almost impossible to do long posts and not have things jump out every time you read it.
23:32 TR News; There Is No Bar But Having One is Good Too - Jim Nielsens Blog https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/there-is-no-bar-but-having-one-is-good-too/ Source: jim-nielsen | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/there-is-no-bar-but-having-one-is-good-too/
23:32 TR Bot; There Is No Bar But Having One is Good Too - Jim Nielsens Blog
23:32 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/thorn
23:32 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Thorn
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23:34 TR News; "Today, an email landed on the AFRINIC Resource Policy Discussion list, in which a subscriber accuses the CEO of AFRINIC, Eddy Kayihura, of trying to ask a governmental body to interfere with AFRINIC's independent procedure for electing Board Directors." https://sysadmin-journal.com/afrinic-ceo-eddy-kayihura-reaches-out-to-the-african-telecommunications-union-for-potential-board-directors/
23:34 TR Bot; AFRINIC CEO, Eddy Kayihura, reaches out to the African Telecommunications Union (ATU), for potential Board Directors
23:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz Back when people used NNTP, I didn't need to have home Internet to participate in conversations.
23:35 DaemonFC; I just connected to the library and downloaded that day's messages, and went home and browsed, and compiled some replies, and used the library in a day or two to get back to them.
23:35 DaemonFC; Like e-mail.
23:36 DaemonFC; Mitchell Baker wasn't wrong about e-mail dying. Fewer and fewer people use it to communicate.
23:36 TR News; The Webb Space Telescopes Profound Data Challenges - IEEE Spectrum https://spectrum.ieee.org/james-webb-telescope-communications Source: spectrum | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//spectrum.ieee.org/james-webb-telescope-communications
23:36 TR Bot; The Webb Space Telescopes Profound Data Challenges - IEEE Spectrum
23:36 DaemonFC; More often lately, it's spam from Chili's that I can go in for free chips and salsa with a $20 minimum purchase.
23:38 TR News; "Govt pushing for BankID completely unquestioned. Everyone needs a Google account to be a citizen, is where were headed." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/svt-vs-cloud
23:39 TR News; Win thrown away in France? gemini://freeshell.de/f1/2022-07-24_Win_thrown_away_in_France_.gmi
23:47 DaemonFC; schestowitz I don't know how the police are so successful on Grindr.
23:47 DaemonFC; "Oh this is a random box that popped up in a smartphone app..... Sure I'll admit I'd do something illegal!"