IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, March 11, 2022

beginning of new day, March 11

00:00 schestowitz-TR2; mixed that with the cats' liter

00:00 schestowitz-TR2; (litter

00:00 schestowitz-TR2; it'll make you strong like a rock

00:00 DaemonFC; Smart like bear.

00:01 psydroid8; medved vs vedmid

00:01 psydroid8; ok, that's a bit subtle

00:02 psydroid8; Russian bear vs Ukrainian bear

00:02 DaemonFC; The Senate is saying they won't pass the Russian sanctions bill the House passed unless the mandate to get Russia out of the WTO is put back in.

00:02 DaemonFC; I don't know how the WTO works exactly but I think we should do whatever we can to get Russia booted out of it.

00:03 DaemonFC; They deserve nothing after this. Absolutely nothing.

00:04 DaemonFC; They deserve to have Putin go explain himself about how their standard of living has been halved overnight so he can get thousands of Russians killed claiming the "Donestk People's Republic".

00:04 psydroid8; whenever you look at Moronix now it's all Intel, AMD and Microsoft

00:04 DaemonFC; I think that Russia should only qualify to have any sanctions lifted once three things have happened.

00:05 TR News; "I learned about the Gemini protocol last week. I don't know why, but the idea seemed very appealing to me. I like the idea of a simpler network where you don't feel like you're being tracked and monitored all of the time." gemini://jfh.me/posts/2020-11-01-melchior.gmi

00:05 schestowitz-TR2; psydroid8: they did directx yesterday

00:05 DaemonFC; It's military is gone from Ukraine, entirely. Putin is gone and free elections have happened inside Russia. Russia agrees to pay reparations to Ukraine for the destruction of property, the deaths, and the pain and suffering.

00:05 DaemonFC; *Its

00:06 DaemonFC; Obviously, that's not all going to happen soon and some of it may never happen.

00:06 schestowitz-TR2; same as USA

00:06 schestowitz-TR2; in any nation that it destroyed

00:06 DaemonFC; Obviously, no amount of money will compensate for lives taken.

00:07 DaemonFC; But I think they ought to have to pay something.

00:07 psydroid8; I think DaemonFC was referring to MorphOS when talking about a PowerPC-specific OS

00:07 psydroid8; which is indeed curious

00:07 DaemonFC; The countries that have managed to freeze Russian assets should liquidate them and pay the proceeds to Ukraine as soon as they can.

00:07 psydroid8; why would you keep it PPC-only?

00:07 psydroid8; because IBM says so?

00:08 DaemonFC; MorphOS could have a HAL that allows it to be easily ported to x86 or most anything really.

00:08 DaemonFC; If you abstract everything you just end up writing a porting layer behind that and you don't need to screw around with the generic bits too much.

00:09 schestowitz-TR2; but who do you think is fascinated by this OS?

00:09 schestowitz-TR2; and would install it...

00:10 DaemonFC; I don't know. I just think it's a lousy idea to tie anything to one CPU architecture.

00:10 psydroid8; Michael Powerlarabel, of course

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00:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 67.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.78

00:10 DaemonFC; Consider everything that will be lost when x86 isn't remembered by anyone anymore and some applications were written to heavily depend on it.

00:11 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 67.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.78

00:11 psydroid8; x86 is the new VAX

00:11 psydroid8; once ubiquitous and then suddenly not remembered by anyone

00:11 TR News; "For my eleventh birthday my parents gave me a Raspberry Pi. I liked Scratch and was interested in computers previously so it was a great present. I remember it took me a few minutes to figure out what this circuit board thing really was." gemini://calcuode.com/gemlog/2020-11-21_how-i-found-out-about-foss.gmi

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00:14 TR Bot; Now Hiring! Project Coordinator | Inkscape

00:17 TR News; The 'other' GPL suffers from Russia's invasion of Ukraine https://demerarawaves.com/2022/03/07/russia-ukraine-war-spirals-gpls-fuel-bill-causing-extremely-challenging-and-unsustainable-position/

00:17 Alternative link; Cloudflare: demerarawaves.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://demerarawaves.com/2022/03/07/russia-ukraine-war-spirals-gpls-fuel-bill-causing-extremely-challenging-and-unsustainable-position/

00:17 TR Bot; Russia-Ukraine war spirals GPLs fuel bill causing extremely challenging and unsustainable position Demerara Waves Online News- Guyana

00:19 TR News; This is not improving the Web, it's making it worse; they're colluding to control it (and they already control it; see the past fortnight's events) https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/07/interop-2022-apple-google-microsoft-and-mozilla-collaboration/

00:19 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ghacks.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/07/interop-2022-apple-google-microsoft-and-mozilla-collaboration/

00:19 TR Bot; Apple, Google, Microsoft and Mozilla are working together to improve web development standards - gHacks Tech News

00:20 TR News; The criminals from Microsoft targets the kids in Nigeria, pushing malware to them https://techbuild.africa/elev8-microsoft-nigerias-software-development/

00:20 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techbuild.africa | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techbuild.africa/elev8-microsoft-nigerias-software-development/

00:20 TR Bot; Elev8 Partners Microsoft To Transform Nigeria's Software Development Sector

00:20 TR News; MSP = Microsoft Scheme Pyramid

00:22 TR News; Old: "we'd all be running FreeBSD, maybe even on our desktops" LOL, nope... (also: it's called GNU, and it predates "modern" Windows) https://www.infoworld.com/article/2616083/a-world-without-linux--where-would-apache--microsoft----even-apple-be-today-.html

00:22 TR Bot; world without Linux: Where would Apache, Microsoft -- even Apple be today? | InfoWorld

00:23 TR News; I'm hearing from more and more people who quit Twitter and Facebook. Excellent! It's easier than these companies lead you to believe...

00:23 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, One of the "benefits" of Walmart+ (which costs $98 a year) is "scan and go", but you scan the items with your phone and then go show a self-checkout register your phone. This is fucking retarded.

00:23 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: marisol cannot fling emoji plates over FB

00:23 DaemonFC; So I can pay $98 to scan with my phone and I still have to go bag everything and pay for it at a self-checkout?

00:24 DaemonFC; This saves no time at all.

00:24 schestowitz-TR2; lol, yes

00:24 schestowitz-TR2; and if you make an error, it's all on you

00:24 DaemonFC; While the police are busy dogpiling on you and pepper spray you in the eyes.

00:24 DaemonFC; :)

00:24 schestowitz-TR2; same with bank

00:24 schestowitz-TR2; better to go there physically sometimes

00:24 DaemonFC; Don't forget that. That's one of the benefits of Walmart+ too.

00:24 schestowitz-TR2; banks: "IT"S EASIER ONLINE"

00:25 schestowitz-TR2; Easier for WHO?

00:25 DaemonFC; Banks: It's easier with an app. Also, the app: "Here's 30 tracking libraries and a weird error message from the server mentioning something about JAVA exceptions."

00:25 DaemonFC; Also the bank: *Fires everyone.*

00:25 DaemonFC; Based.

00:26 schestowitz-TR2; ha

00:26 schestowitz-TR2; well, here's the thing

00:26 schestowitz-TR2; the people they fired

00:26 schestowitz-TR2; probably do not know how to us "the APP" either

00:26 schestowitz-TR2; but they knew hos to get these things done very quickly and accurately on their bank terminals

00:26 schestowitz-TR2; so maybe rehire them

00:27 schestowitz-TR2; some for checkout workrs at shops

00:27 schestowitz-TR2; they know the UI very well and have very good equipment

00:27 schestowitz-TR2; none of that "put one coin at a time" :-)

00:27 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: next up, self-service flights

00:27 schestowitz-TR2; it's a lot cheaper

00:27 schestowitz-TR2; you have a touchscreen in the cockpit

00:28 schestowitz-TR2; next after that

00:28 schestowitz-TR2; doctor's

00:28 schestowitz-TR2; "here's your ultrasound machine"

00:28 schestowitz-TR2; it shows you on the screen what to do"

00:28 schestowitz-TR2; and don't use too much gel!!

00:29 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, Some teller at the bank told me it's easier to deposit a check with an app.

00:29 DaemonFC; I says to the guy, I says....

00:29 schestowitz-TR2; yeah, right

00:29 schestowitz-TR2; assuming

00:29 schestowitz-TR2; 1) you did it many times before

00:29 schestowitz-TR2; 2) it all works pefectly

00:29 DaemonFC; "You realize you're recommending that I help put you out of a job with an app that barely works, right?"

00:29 DaemonFC; He stares blankly for a second.

00:29 schestowitz-TR2; they are COMMANDED to tell you this lie

00:29 DaemonFC; "Corporate makes us say this."

00:29 schestowitz-TR2; in Tesco a manager told off a worker for serving us

00:29 schestowitz-TR2; we left in protes

00:29 schestowitz-TR2; left ALL the things there

00:30 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: jobs market nlooks good though

00:30 schestowitz-TR2; workers get 10 hours a week

00:31 schestowitz-TR2; 2 hours commute, 2 hours work

00:31 DaemonFC; Half the jobs that were lost came back.

00:31 DaemonFC; Best jobs market ever.

00:31 schestowitz-TR2; and the job creators create machines

00:31 schestowitz-TR2; (made in chian actually)

00:31 DaemonFC; Every recession, half the jobs that that recession lost come back.

00:31 DaemonFC; "Best recovery on record!"

00:31 schestowitz-TR2; (in sweatshops)

00:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, Better.com

00:32 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: [12:29] <techrights-news> Since COVID-19 started over 10 TRILLION dollars PUMPED into the economy in the form of debt the US population cannot repay. The oligarchs bagged most of that money. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gzXs3EdlbzY

00:32 TR Bot; Jim Rogers Issues Warning: U.S. Dollar Being Used as Instrument of War," Its the Endgame - Invidious

00:32 schestowitz-TR2; watch the video

00:32 schestowitz-TR2; he mentions the US economy collapsing

00:32 DaemonFC; 900 people fired over Zoom followed by 3,000 fired with severance checks hitting the bank account before management said anything about it.

00:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, There's obviously another mortgage crisis out there right now.

00:33 DaemonFC; Banks have quietly seized up on lending in various ways.

00:33 schestowitz-TR2; later this year it'll implode again

00:33 DaemonFC; Including lowering everyone's credit score even though the factors didn't change.

00:33 schestowitz-TR2; back to 'default', not "normal"

00:33 schestowitz; today http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/10/raw-nhs-numbers/

00:33 TR Bot; Blog Archive The COVID-19 Surge in the United Kingdom (Raw NHS Numbers)

00:33 DaemonFC; Almost everyone I talk to says their credit score went down between 20-40 points recently even though they pay their bills.

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00:33 schestowitz-TR2; we're being overrun again

00:33 DaemonFC; schestowitz, This makes less people qualify for a mortgage.

00:33 DaemonFC; But they don't have to say this is what they do.

00:34 DaemonFC; They sneak the credit scores down even if nothing changes about you. Even if your "factors" improve a bit.

00:34 DaemonFC; They change the rules depending on how much they feel like lending money in the macroeconomic picture.

00:34 DaemonFC; Not everything is about you. :)

00:35 DaemonFC; Most of your FICO score is you, but they change risk parameters behind the scenes and don't explain exactly their rationale. It's a cartel. The government allows it. Why explain anything to you?

00:35 DaemonFC; It's a software program they sell to the banks.

00:35 DaemonFC; Before the late 1980s almost none of the banks used it.

00:35 TR News; 175126 page requests in gemini capsule of techrights in past 10 days. That's 17,5k a day. Over gemini:// alone. This isn't a niche anymore.

00:36 DaemonFC; Since they adopted it, we've had several major recessions including the first and third worst in American history.

00:36 DaemonFC; So obviously they're getting a lot for their money with the software.

00:36 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: thjey blasted beijing for this

00:36 schestowitz-TR2; the hypocrisy willk not age well

00:37 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: I get spammed a lot with loan offers

00:37 schestowitz-TR2; they tends to stop during lockdowns

00:37 schestowitz-TR2; a

00:37 schestowitz-TR2; and then it resumed

00:37 schestowitz-TR2; about once every month

00:38 schestowitz-TR2; hey, psydroid8, maybe I should take a loan and buld a datacentre at home like microlarabel

00:38 schestowitz-TR2; or maybe I can do dozen of spam pieces about clear linux, which nobody uses, and hope Intel will supply the components

00:38 schestowitz-TR2; only assembly required

00:39 TR News; Kali Unkaputtbar Brings File System Snapshots to Btrfs-Based Kali Linux Systems Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162412

00:39 TR Bot; Kali Unkaputtbar Brings File System Snapshots to Btrfs-Based Kali Linux Systems | Tux Machines

00:41 TR News; why use gemini? gemini://nytpu.com/why-gemini.gmi "If Gemini had no benefits other than being private it would have very few users indeed."

00:41 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR2> DaemonFC: I get spammed a lot with loan offers

00:42 DaemonFC; Mandy keeps getting offers from a Payday Loan company.

00:42 DaemonFC; Those went away after the state passed a usury law.

00:42 TR News; "Gemini pages are just raw text with no styling to them at all (other than semantic elements like quotes, headers, bullets), they leave all the styling up to the user. Want all your pages to look exactly the same, with a flat black background and white text? Definitely!" gemini://nytpu.com/why-gemini.gmi

00:42 DaemonFC; They used to just charge ignorant (and mostly black, if we're speaking honestly) people 1500% interest on a $500 loan until it charged off.

00:42 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: there is a name for such companies

00:43 schestowitz-TR2; "bullishit jobs"

00:43 schestowitz-TR2; it does not refer to apple cofounder

00:43 DaemonFC; Then it doesn't matter if they pay it back because you can sell the rights to collect for $2,500 to a collection agency.

00:43 psydroid8; there is a huge economy based on "bullshit jobs"

00:44 DaemonFC; Yeah, they didn't care if you paid it back. So they'd give a loan to anyone.

00:44 schestowitz-TR2; we have autoimation

00:44 schestowitz-TR2; but the salaries have no increases

00:44 DaemonFC; It's basically a loan shark operation.

00:44 schestowitz-TR2; so the surplus is filled up with BS

00:44 DaemonFC; When the state capped maximum interest at 36%, those stores started closing down.

00:44 schestowitz-TR2; *not increased

00:44 DaemonFC; The model of floating a $500 loan to someone at 36% without caring about whether they pay it back doesn't work as well.

00:45 DaemonFC; So they choose their victims more carefully.

00:45 psydroid8; imagine a future in which there will only be jobs for 10% of the working population

00:45 schestowitz-TR2; they target the mopst desperate

00:45 schestowitz-TR2; like people wishing not to be evicated

00:45 schestowitz-TR2; *evicted

00:45 DaemonFC; Or the car just broke down.

00:45 psydroid8; what are the 90% going to do

00:45 schestowitz-TR2; or having to pay some medical bill

00:45 schestowitz-TR2; while at risk of dying

00:45 schestowitz-TR2; or pay for a coffin

00:45 DaemonFC; The "debtors education" (Have you tried not being poor?) part of bankruptcy goes over payday loans and how they're terrible.

00:46 schestowitz-TR2; [00:45] <psydroid8> what are the 90% going to do

00:46 DaemonFC; Like you didn't know that already.

00:46 schestowitz-TR2; maining fakecoins

00:46 schestowitz-TR2; *mining browser tabs with JS

00:47 TR News; "People that say Gemini doesnt have images strike me as people that dont understand how the internet works, but Ill humor them and explain it here. No internet protocol today has images native in its format (discounting base64-encoded stuff shoved into the page), not HTML, not discord, not ActivityPub." gemini://nytpu.com/why-gemini.gmi

00:47 DaemonFC; You're in bankruptcy court over the payday loans, or the medical bills, or the credit cards, or whatever, most likely because they saw a guy making minimum wage and bogged him down with debt, and there's no way out of minimum wage for most people so now your bank is rupted.

00:48 DaemonFC; But they try to shame you for "failing".

00:49 DaemonFC; "You probably bought like 6 TVs and some trips to Disney World while all this was going on, didn't you, you sly bastard? No? Well, we'll act like that's how you got here, like it's how most people get here. Sure we could say 70% is hospital bills alone, but that would be telling the truth when we can shove a fucking fantasy document in your face."

00:49 DaemonFC; "And we're the government so that's not really our bag.....baby."

00:50 schestowitz; https://www.freep.com/in-depth/news/local/michigan/2022/02/25/detroit-zoo-penguin-exhibit/6894786001/

00:50 TR Bot; Detroit Free Press

00:50 schestowitz; great use of energy

00:50 schestowitz; snow machines

00:50 DaemonFC; The first human patient to get a pig heart transplanted died two months later.

00:50 DaemonFC; And he was only 57.

00:50 DaemonFC; Why would a 57 year old who may live another 40 years get a pig heart and agree to be experimented on?

00:50 schestowitz; I saw that

00:50 DaemonFC; Probably had crap insurance.

00:50 schestowitz; mentioned in IRC earlier

00:50 schestowitz; [09:36] <techrights-news> Should have left that heart with the pig that owned it https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-got-heart-transplant-pig-dies-2-months-later-rcna19315

00:50 TR Bot; Man who got heart transplant from pig dies 2 months later

00:51 DaemonFC; The only way to get any heart is to sign up for the pig heart and hope for a few years.

00:51 schestowitz; PigLivesMatter?

00:51 DaemonFC; Then they know if it's safe for the important people, with money, or at least insurance.

00:51 schestowitz; they genetically 'engineer' these pigs

00:51 schestowitz; and as piglets they are adorable

00:52 schestowitz; then they kill them for experiments

00:52 schestowitz; we already have almost 8 billion humans

00:52 DaemonFC; If you can save people by growing pigs for hearts, why not?

00:52 schestowitz; DaemonFC: well, the rich can have it

00:52 schestowitz; no mutation required

00:52 schestowitz; you can put a pig's heart into a human pig

00:52 DaemonFC; Most people EAT pigs that died so that the energy they give from eating them keeps them alive for a day or so.

00:52 DaemonFC; You run off the pork chops for another day and then you need more food.

00:53 DaemonFC; God designed us very well. Our bodies waste 90% of the energy they consume.

00:53 DaemonFC; Then you constantly need more fuel.

00:53 DaemonFC; It's the H3 Hummer.

00:53 MinceR; lol

00:54 schestowitz; orban went under the knife

00:54 schestowitz; they asked, "which one is the pig?"

00:55 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/1709165

00:55 schestowitz; eventually they put the transplant inside the real pig

00:55 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/ya5pCqY.jpg created on 2017-09-16 01:59:35.966705

00:55 schestowitz; and then they ate orban

00:55 MinceR; and on the photo description, "Comrade Orban (on the left)"

00:55 schestowitz; white mink cat

00:56 schestowitz; MinceR: cremated

00:56 schestowitz; unlike putin

00:56 schestowitz; they made putin vanish by performing an enema on him

00:57 MinceR; :>

00:58 TR News; Roof over one's head... in "developed" country https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/gentoo-easington-lane-repairs-storm-23185150

00:58 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/gentoo-easington-lane-repairs-storm-23185150 )

00:59 TR News; "I said we are DEVELOPED... I did NOT say were we also DEBUGGED and TESTED"

1 AM, March 11

01:00 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: did you watch the video?

01:00 schestowitz-TR2; he mentions shopping surveillance

01:00 schestowitz-TR2; around 15 mins from the start

01:00 schestowitz-TR2; my dad sent it to me in the morning

01:01 schestowitz; Wow. amzing, only 2 covid deaths in FL yesterday

01:01 schestowitz; out of 1,421 in the US

01:01 schestowitz; FL must be.... governed by Republican liars

01:01 schestowitz; those million senior citizens are cruising it!

01:02 DaemonFC; Oh no, I was busy finishing dinner and chucking some garbage.

01:03 DaemonFC; I've started using Walmart bags and empty boxes stuff came in for garbage to get rid of them without just throwing them in the trash too.

01:03 DaemonFC; Box it up, stack it next to the door. Carry it back out to the dumpster.

01:04 DaemonFC; Did I mention garbage bags went up too? They want you to pay like $30 a year just for something to put their excess packaging in.

01:04 DaemonFC; Then we need more oil for the bags, and then Pootie Poot wins again, or something.

01:05 schestowitz-TR2; reuse them

01:05 schestowitz-TR2; you can use a decent bags 10-20 times

01:05 schestowitz-TR2; *bag

01:06 DaemonFC; Yeah, Walmart won vs. those bag tax laws in most cases.

01:06 DaemonFC; They propped up a "plastic bag lobbying group" to convince people their used shopping bags are too gross to use again.

01:06 DaemonFC; I mean, maybe if it had meat in it, chuck it, but for the most part, you can use 90-95% of your bags again.

01:07 schestowitz-TR2; in the past there were no plastic bags

01:07 schestowitz-TR2; you use much better bags

01:07 schestowitz-TR2; sometimes you washed

01:07 schestowitz-TR2; ahand-washing was common

01:07 schestowitz-TR2; you can also use a hose

01:08 schestowitz-TR2; they are nicer to hold

01:08 schestowitz-TR2; and can hold up more weight

01:09 schestowitz-TR2; you can recognise them from a distane

01:11 TR News; EARN-IT threatens encryption and therefore user freedom Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162413

01:11 TR News; GNU Jitter and GCC: the fun of playing with fire Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162414

01:11 TR Bot; EARN-IT threatens encryption and therefore user freedom | Tux Machines

01:11 TR Bot; GNU Jitter and GCC: the fun of playing with fire | Tux Machines

01:13 TR News; "Nothing ever really becomes "obsolete", just increasingly niche. Vinyl records are a great example of this. In terms of practicality, there's no reason for vinyl to exist anymore. But that hasn't stopped the people who have helped it make a comeback in recent years." gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2021-10-29-re-compact-discs-is-obsolete-technology-obsolete.gmi

01:13 TR News; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162415

01:13 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines

01:15 TR News; "There's not much to explain here but the main idea is that a majority of the internet activity you see is driven by bots. This one I think is to some extent one of the more believable ones on the list. One recent report I found estimates that bots are responsible for around 40% of all web traffic." gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2021-12-23-conspiracy-theories.gmi

01:18 TR News; UK "Registered corporations are what we now call companies. One act of Parliament, since roughly the 1850s, has allowed a government official to create new companies. The current law on this is the Companies Act 2006." gemini://gemini.ucant.org/gemlog/2021-08-30_uk_legal_forms.gmi

01:21 TR News; "South African influencer"... that term, 'influencer', is becoming obnoxious nonsense https://www.kossyderrickent.com/2022/03/photos-rapper-zola-7-dlamini-visits-and.html

01:21 Alternative link; Cloudflare: kossyderrickent.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.kossyderrickent.com/2022/03/photos-rapper-zola-7-dlamini-visits-and.html

01:21 TR Bot; PHOTOS: Rapper, Zola 7 Dlamini, visits and spends time with Dr. Shauwn 'MaMkhize' Mkhize and her son, Andile Mpisane, at their mansion

01:22 TR News; Buying the Zorin OS 16.1 Pro Linux-based operating system can help Ukraine http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162392#comment-33027

01:22 TR Bot; Zorin OS 16.1 is Here, Creators to Donate All Profits from Zorin OS Pro to Aid Ukraine | Tux Machines

01:25 TR News; A couple of weeks from now it'll be 2 YEARS since lockdowns began. And the UK has a new COVID SURGE: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/category/health/

01:25 TR Bot; Health

01:26 TR News; "First they came for the right-wingers But I did not speak up, for I was not a right-winger Then they came for the left-wingers As everyone had predicted" gemini://gemini.ucant.org/gemlog/2020-12-28_niemoeller.gmi

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01:29 TR News; The Gemini mailing list is fully archived, but why are they not bringing that back? gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-12-31.gmi

01:30 TR News; Gemini is for photographs too, e.g. (cats) for MinceR gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/

01:32 TR News; This headline is a lie and this report is a face https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-top-1000-open-source-libraries/ Microsoft propaganda, brought to you by 'Linux' Foundation http://techrights.org/2022/03/07/marketing-with-microsoft-npm/

01:32 TR Bot; top 1,000 open-source libraries | ZDNet

01:32 TR Bot; The Studies of Linux Foundation Research Based on Data From Microsoft and Experts in Adobe, Not Open Source | Techrights

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01:33 TR News; Texas v. Meta: Collection of Biometric Information Targeted in Suit https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2022/03/07/texas-v-meta-collection-of-biometric-information-targeted-in-suit/

01:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: law.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2022/03/07/texas-v-meta-collection-of-biometric-information-targeted-in-suit/

01:33 TR Bot; v. Meta: Collection of Biometric Information Targeted in Suit | New York Law Journal

01:36 TR News; Borisnaro was born in New York, writes for New York Times. And he governs another country. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/06/opinion/boris-johnson-russia-putin-ukraine-war.html

01:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/06/opinion/boris-johnson-russia-putin-ukraine-war.html

01:36 TR Bot; Opinion | Boris Johnson: Russia's War on Ukraine Must Fail - The New York Times

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01:39 TR News; "Cloudflare uses lava lamps, aka LavaRand, to generate random numbers for its encryption." But clownflare is a surveillance company. Surely some marketing gimmick of theirs. https://thenewstack.io/silkworm-encryption/

01:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thenewstack.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/silkworm-encryption/

01:39 TR Bot; Silkworm Encryption The New Stack

01:41 TR News; Has Jason Evangelho been brought back just to issue DRM marketing spam for Valve? https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/

01:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/

01:41 TR Bot; Jason Evangelho - The Game Technician

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01:43 schestowitz-TR2; hmmm

01:44 schestowitz-TR2; he left

01:44 schestowitz-TR2; just when I mentioned Jason Evangelho

01:44 schestowitz-TR2; one of the 4 steam shills

01:44 schestowitz-TR2; I reckon he's one of them

01:50 TR News; Typical openwashing garbage and FUD from VMware; "VMware Tanzu sponsored this article for The New Stack." https://thenewstack.io/how-an-ospo-can-help-secure-your-software-supply-chain/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/VMware#2020

01:50 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thenewstack.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/how-an-ospo-can-help-secure-your-software-supply-chain/

01:50 TR Bot; How an OSPO Can Help Secure Your Software Supply Chain The New Stack

01:50 TR Bot; VMware - Techrights

01:51 TR News; #openwashing of a DRM villain https://www.protocol.com/enterprise/how-netflix-and-uber-helped-create-the-data-lakehouse-by-preserving-an-open-source-tradition

01:51 TR Bot; tech from Netflix became Dremios data lakehouse - Protocol

01:52 TR News; "A standard XII boy from Bengaluru has been chosen to be a part of a climate change expedition to Antarctica. The Climate Force Antarctic Expedition is scheduled for March 17-28. Organisers said the expedition will be more than just carbon neutral but in fact carbon negative." https://bangaloremirror.indiatimes.com/bangalore/others/journey-to-save-planet/articleshow/90109133.cms

01:52 TR Bot; Journey to save planet

01:54 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/11/ebay-is-excessively-hostile-to-vpn-users-customer-service-hangs-up-on-me/

01:55 TR Bot; eBay is excessively hostile to VPN users. Customer service hangs up on me. BaronHK's Rants

01:57 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 37.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.79

2 AM, March 11

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02:04 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: I think I know who attacked me

02:04 schestowitz-TR2; or I narrowed that down to 3 people

02:04 schestowitz-TR2; I am doing a post about it

02:05 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/11/the-dumbest-feature-of-walmart-and-a-banking-app-joke/

02:05 TR Bot; The dumbest feature of Walmart+ and a banking app joke. BaronHK's Rants

02:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, Goolag....Matt Goolag......"lights a joint"

02:06 DaemonFC; "I love San Francisco. For ten times the national cost of living I can be around all of the people who 'get it'."

02:07 schestowitz; DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/jason-evangelho-influencer/

02:07 TR Bot; It Smells Like Marketing Not Journalism When Almost 100% of the Articles From Jason Evangelho, Senior Contributor at Forbes, Are About the Same Topic | Techrights

02:07 schestowitz; can you spot typos?

02:08 schestowitz; valve seems to be running some infeluence operations in gulagtube and elsewhere

02:08 schestowitz; so I may have struck a nerve

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02:12 DaemonFC; I wonder how he feels about stepping out of his $4,000 quarter-of-an-apartment and right into some human shit because that's what the bums do there.

02:12 DaemonFC; After a brief stroll down the sidewalk, littered in heroin needles, he reaches the open sores conference.

02:12 TR News; It Smells Like Marketing - Not Journalism - When Almost 100% of the Articles From Jason Evangelho, Senior Contributor at Forbes, Are About the Same Topic | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/jason-evangelho-influencer/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/10/jason-evangelho-influencer/

02:14 DaemonFC; schestowitz, SteamOS is based on Arch now. They were based on Debian....without security updates....running the drivers that time forgot.

02:14 DaemonFC; It could have hardly gotten worse.

02:15 DaemonFC; From what I heard, they would just let it sit there and rot, and they wouldn't bother to even pretend to care about Intel or AMD graphics. Just the Nvidia blob.

02:15 DaemonFC; And you wouldn't even get security patches from upstream Debian.

02:15 DaemonFC; So it's like, why would you bother?

02:15 DaemonFC; You can install Steam on Debian and at least keep the drivers and security patches current.

02:15 TR News; eBay is excessively hostile to VPN users. Customer disservice hangs up on me. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/11/ebay-is-excessively-hostile-to-vpn-users-customer-service-hangs-up-on-me/

02:16 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: ebay is not for anonimity

02:16 schestowitz-TR2; for a number of reasons

02:16 schestowitz-TR2; other than the digital (tracked) payments

02:16 schestowitz-TR2; if you want privacy when you shop, us ethis thing called legs

02:17 TR News; It Smells Like Marketing - Not Journalism - When Almost 100% of the Articles From Jason Evangelho, Senior Contributor at Forbes, Are About the Same Topic | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/jason-evangelho-influencer/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/10/jason-evangelho-influencer/

02:18 TR News; todays hjowtos Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162416

02:18 TR Bot; today's hjowtos | Tux Machines

02:18 TR News; Games: Mostly Steam Deck Fluff Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162417

02:18 TR News; FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report 4th Quarter 2021 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162418

02:18 TR Bot; Games: Mostly Steam Deck Fluff | Tux Machines

02:19 TR Bot; FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report 4th Quarter 2021 | Tux Machines

02:19 MinceR; my legs don't have the dexterity required to handle cash :(

02:20 batalie; i usually handle cash with my fingers

02:20 MinceR; yeah, but schestowitz-TR2 you're supposed to use legs if you want privacy

02:20 schestowitz-TR2; but they have your fingerprints

02:20 schestowitz-TR2; not your toe-prints l;-)

02:20 batalie; cash has everybody's fingerprints

02:20 batalie; haha

02:21 MinceR; s/2/2 said/

02:23 kingoffrance; yes, germaphobes fear cash for this reason

02:23 kingoffrance; have to wash all those coins, dont touch

02:24 kingoffrance; this could be a strange rpg <scan spell> <germaphobe fears money!>

02:25 schestowitz-TR2; wait till they find out the germs are everywhere

02:25 schestowitz-TR2; even inside their bodies

02:25 schestowitz-TR2; the food they handle is full of germs

02:27 DaemonFC; Cash is filthy. Here, use a new cryptodollar.

02:27 schestowitz-TR2; safety

02:27 schestowitz-TR2; health

02:27 schestowitz-TR2; fitness

02:27 schestowitz-TR2; the three pillars of BS

02:27 DaemonFC; It's like the faketokens only the US government can trace them better and hyperinflate it.

02:27 schestowitz-TR2; to introduce oppressive new masures

02:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, I'm going to shop at Aldi more.

02:28 DaemonFC; They outsourced the pickup and delivery to Instacart.

02:28 DaemonFC; So they're not even on the hook to figure out how to spread the suffering around with price hikes to people who go in and shop.

02:29 schestowitz-TR2; here they raise the rpcie too

02:29 schestowitz-TR2; my cheese rose like 25% in price since covid started

02:29 DaemonFC; All I want are some goddamned eggs without seeing the price go up another dollar every time I'm in there so they can do this dumbshit Walmart+.

02:29 DaemonFC; You know that's part of the problem right?

02:30 DaemonFC; They make you subsidize the people on Walmart+ with higher prices for everyone.

02:30 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, I went into Walmart today and most of the reciept is just marked down meat to freeze.

02:31 DaemonFC; I found some really good deals on ribeyes and grass-fed ground beef.

02:31 DaemonFC; For a while, there were no markdowns really.

02:31 DaemonFC; Then gas shot up and they have excess meat again.

02:31 DaemonFC; Then they have to mark it down.

02:32 TR News; Links 11/3/2022: IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 164, FSF Opposes EARN-IT | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/fsf-opposes-earn-it/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/10/fsf-opposes-earn-it/

02:32 TR Bot; Links 11/3/2022: IPFire 2.27 Core Update 164, FSF Opposes EARN-IT | Techrights

02:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, T-Mobile says they want my fingerprints to create a T-Mobile account.

02:32 DaemonFC; But only if I create it using their app.

02:32 DaemonFC; This is definitely illegal. BIPA

02:32 schestowitz-TR2; wait

02:32 schestowitz-TR2; let me guess

02:33 schestowitz-TR2; if you use their "app" you get better price

02:33 schestowitz-TR2; so in essense they penalise you for not being spied on badly

02:33 schestowitz-TR2; like with spy meters

02:33 schestowitz-TR2; the social control agenda going into full swing faster than I imagined

02:33 schestowitz-TR2; of coutse they'll say it's healthy for "safety" and "security" for you

02:34 schestowitz-TR2; and onlyu "crims" don't go along

02:34 schestowitz-TR2; "what are you, DIRTY?"

02:35 schestowitz-TR2; "just because everyone fgollows unlawful requests does not eman I should, too"

02:35 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, I edited this.

02:35 DaemonFC; "Back to Walmart+.

02:35 DaemonFC; Its clear to me that everyone pays higher prices for groceries to subsidize this Walmart+ thing. Aldi hasnt raised prices this much, and Ill bet you its because they dont run their own pickup and delivery. They outsource it to Instacart. If the customer wants delivery or pickup from Aldi, its higher prices than the shelf.

02:35 DaemonFC; But with Walmart, they charge the same price to everyone, and theres no way $98 a year is the full cost of a customer clicking Now I want ice cream.. Now I want one package of underwear. Now I want exactly one bottle of rum.. And each time, a person has to show up with it. For Free"

02:36 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, MARISOL has Walmart+.

02:36 DaemonFC; A few months ago, she placed an order for 12 cans of SPAM.

02:36 TR News; "an hour ot 2 ago I went to freebsd site ... they have discord advertised x-|" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-100322.html#tMar%2010%2023:05:30

02:36 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, March 10, 2022

02:37 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, Mandy says Discord went down for hours today.

02:37 DaemonFC; Since nobody really has a server, one down, all down.

02:37 schestowitz-TR2; great

02:37 schestowitz-TR2; maybe a reminder to people

02:37 schestowitz-TR2; re centralised 'guilds'

02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-100322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-100322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-100322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-100322.txt

02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, March 10, 2022

02:37 schestowitz-TR2; maybe they prepare for Microsoft top buy them

02:37 DaemonFC; Are you down with the clown? ARE U A JUGGABOO!?

02:37 schestowitz-TR2; by assimilating with downtimes ;-)

02:37 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^

02:38 *DaemonFC sends MinceR a care package with some Faygo.

02:38 TR News; Fake Security and Openwashing Fluf (Linux Foundation) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162419

02:38 TR Bot; Fake Security and Openwashing Fluff (Linux Foundation) | Tux Machines

02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-100322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-100322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-100322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-100322.txt

02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, March 10, 2022

02:38 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162420

02:38 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

02:38 DaemonFC; You can't even get Faygo at Walmart.

02:39 DaemonFC; Walmart has these tepid off brand sodas.

02:39 DaemonFC; Faygo was its own thing. Now you have to go to Dollar Tree to get your Moon Mist.

02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-100322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-100322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-100322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-100322.txt

02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, March 10, 2022

02:40 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, I can't see how anyone would drink Walmart soda now. It's been hit with the bulk of the price hike Pepsi and Coke have been.

02:40 DaemonFC; Aluminum isn't cheap anymore.

02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-100322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-100322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-100322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-100322.txt

02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, March 10, 2022

02:41 DaemonFC; I used to drink Walmart soda because it was DIRT CHEAP and close enough considering how impossibly cheap it was.

02:41 DaemonFC; In fact, when the shelves were empty, I used to go out and feed the machines quarters because that's all they cost, per can.

02:41 DaemonFC; Then I'd take them home and put them in the fridge.

02:42 DaemonFC; Walmart got rid of their own sodas in cans in machines out front a long time ago.

02:42 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-03-10.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-03-10.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)

02:42 DaemonFC; And you can forget 25 cents per can too even if they didn't.

02:42 DaemonFC; Now it's just Coke and Pepsi. 75 cents.

02:43 DaemonFC; They probably worked out a deal where they wouldn't "compete" in exchange for renting out the space.

02:44 DaemonFC; The aluminum speculation is what's driving everything in cans through the roof.

02:47 schestowitz-TR2; aluminum that gets recycled

02:51 schestowitz; The Breton corruption will kill the EU https://nitter.eu/zoobab/status/1501933238989688833 see http://techrights.org/2019/11/16/the-entrepreneurial-joker/

02:51 TR Bot; zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "UPC: Breyer: "Is it a Common Court according to CJEU jurisprudence?" Breton: "It is a Common Court because it is written in the agreement". Writing the 'Earth is flat' does not make the 'Earth flat' https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2021-005551-ASW_EN.pdf #upc #cjeu" | nitter

02:51 TR Bot; Understanding Thierry Breton: Chiracs Entrepreneurial Joker | Techrights

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02:59 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/03/10/1085814568/sony-warner-universal-russia

02:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/2022/03/10/1085814568/sony-warner-universal-russia

02:59 TR Bot; Major music labels Sony, Warner, Universal cease Russian operations : NPR

02:59 DaemonFC; That's okay. It's all there as FLAC files in a Torrent.

02:59 DaemonFC; And Russia just legalized "piracy".

3 AM, March 11

03:00 DaemonFC; "Sony said Wednesday it would stop all sales of PlayStation consoles in Russia and disable the PlayStation Store. Microsoft did the same with its Xbox consoles and online services last week."

03:00 DaemonFC; Remote brick the ones already sold.

03:00 DaemonFC; Niiiiiice.

03:00 DaemonFC; This is surely better than games on a Blu Ray Disc that work off of the disc!

03:03 TR News; Mr. Breton and EPO Corruption (Propelling an Assault on the Rule of Law and on the Courts Themselves) Endanger the Legitimacy of the EU | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/breton-lies-again/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/10/breton-lies-again/

03:03 TR Bot; Mr. Breton and EPO Corruption (Propelling an Assault on the Rule of Law and on the Courts Themselves) Endanger the Legitimacy of the EU | Techrights

03:15 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/11/disney-scrubs-lgbt-people-out-of-any-movie-they-publish/

03:15 TR Bot; Disney scrubs LGBT people out of any movie they publish. BaronHK's Rants

03:15 DaemonFC; schestowitz, ^

03:15 DaemonFC; "Unofficially, theres been a gay month at Disney World for years, and theyve never balked at taking the money. Disney also had absolutely nothing to say about the anti-gay bill that passed in Florida this month that has schools out kids to homophobic parents who very well might kill them or put them on the street.

03:15 DaemonFC; I can still remember my aunt talking with my mother about how grossed out she was that there were men showing affection for each other at Disney World in the 90s in front of the children.

03:15 DaemonFC; When I was a child, I also remember my mother talking about gay men, in the middle of a Taco Bell. I was sitting there, all of about seven, eating a bean burrito, listening to her tell me that all gay men are pedophiles and thats why Adam Walsh was abducted.

03:15 DaemonFC; Maybe they were both just regurgitating bullshit that they heard somewhere, but I kind of doubt that a fully grown woman honestly thinks this.

03:15 DaemonFC; "

03:22 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 177938 total Total number of pages in capsule: 39671 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 1 months 1 days ago

03:23 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 88 GB TotalOut: 51 GB

03:23 DaemonFC; https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/excess-pandemic-deaths-are-3-higher-official-covid-toll-study-rcna19497

03:23 TR Bot; Excess pandemic deaths are 3 times higher than official Covid toll: study

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03:24 DaemonFC; Much of that would probably be in China, where it disappeared immediately due to Communist decree.

03:24 DaemonFC; :)

03:24 DaemonFC; Again, no offense to activelow.

03:24 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.

03:24 DaemonFC; I know that the Communists being able to command reality like Q in Star Trek does makes him admire them greatly.

03:25 DaemonFC; They don't really want gas prices to go down, schestowitz

03:25 DaemonFC; It's just another way for them to control movement.

03:26 DaemonFC; If you can't afford to go anywhere in your car except maybe to work and back, you have to stay out of their way.

03:26 MinceR; lol

03:27 DaemonFC; https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/10/how-goldman-sachs-profits-from-war-in-ukraine/

03:27 Alternative link; Cloudflare: politicalwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/10/how-goldman-sachs-profits-from-war-in-ukraine/

03:27 TR Bot; How Goldman Sachs Profits from War In Ukraine

03:27 DaemonFC; Goldman Sachs, the giant New York investment bank, is cashing in on the war in Ukraine by selling Russian debt to U.S. hedge funds and using a legal loophole in the Biden administrations sanctions to do it, NBC News reports.

03:27 DaemonFC; As the Western world scrambles to defend Ukraine by locking down Russian money, the company is acting as a broker between Moscows creditors and U.S. investors, pitching clients on the opportunity to take advantage of Russias war-crippled economy by buying its debt securities low now and selling them high later.

03:28 DaemonFC; The problem is that their creditors are dumping it because it's worthless and they know it will go down further still.

03:28 DaemonFC; And Goldman is giving their hedge fund clients bad advice and packaging bad debt that will get worse, and charging commissions on that.

03:28 DaemonFC; It's not like the Russian economy is going to be roaring back when this is all over.

03:29 DaemonFC; We're talking at least a decade with no real growth potential at all.

03:29 DaemonFC; And nobody knows how long you won't actually be able to sell these "assets"....just transfer them to someone else who becomes "encumbered" by them due to the sanctions.

03:29 DaemonFC; This is surreal.

03:29 DaemonFC; I'm smart enough to know this. Why are hedge funds buying it?

03:30 MinceR; probably because other people pay for their losses

03:30 DaemonFC; Stuff stuff stuff it into your retirement plan.

03:30 DaemonFC; "This is Grade A stuff, I promise!"

03:30 MinceR; that's one way

03:31 DaemonFC; "Not regulated by FINRA. No insurance from the FDIC. Investments may lose their entire value. Some conditions apply. See store for details."

03:32 DaemonFC; This is exactly why I don't do bond funds.

03:32 DaemonFC; We have some S&P 500 stuff, but Russia wasn't a major source of income for any of them, so the market is kind of shrugging it off.

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03:32 DaemonFC; Except oil, which is surging.

03:33 DaemonFC; https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/10/politics/russia-trade-status-us-g7-eu-biden/index.html

03:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/10/politics/russia-trade-status-us-g7-eu-biden/index.html

03:33 TR Bot; to announce Friday that US will move to revoke 'most favored nation' status for Russia - CNNPolitics

03:33 DaemonFC; https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/10/facebook-will-allow-calls-for-violence-against-russians/

03:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: politicalwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/10/facebook-will-allow-calls-for-violence-against-russians/

03:33 TR Bot; Facebook Will Allow Calls for Violence Against Russians

03:34 DaemonFC; Meta Platforms will allow Facebook and Instagram users in some countries to call for violence against Russians and Russian soldiers in the context of the Ukraine invasion, Reuters reports.

03:34 DaemonFC; The social media company is also temporarily allowing some posts that call for death to Russian President Vladimir Putin or Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko in countries including Russia, Ukraine and Poland.

03:34 IPFS; Qmeib5xsJPjazHycfVRna3aDnNkGHeuML9KhMk6hoSRgPN

03:34 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.

03:36 DaemonFC; https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/10/feds-report-8-billion-in-fraud-involving-pandemic-relief/

03:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: politicalwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/10/feds-report-8-billion-in-fraud-involving-pandemic-relief/

03:36 TR Bot; Feds Report $8 Billion In Pandemic Relief Fraud

03:38 schestowitz; just renewed techrights org and com until 2024

03:39 schestowitz; quite a ripoff, 90 pounds just to register 2 "names" for 2 years

03:39 schestowitz; more bullshit jobs

03:39 DaemonFC; https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/10/latest-census-missed-19-million-americans/

03:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: politicalwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/10/latest-census-missed-19-million-americans/

03:39 TR Bot; Latest Census Missed 19 Million Americans

03:39 DaemonFC; Census missed 19 million Americans.

03:39 DaemonFC; They made absolutely no attempt to count me or Mandy.

03:40 DaemonFC; I even called their office and they said "wait for a mailer" and then when no mailer and no census workers arrived, I had to go to census.gov and say I didn't have an invitation code but would like to voluntarily report my household.

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03:48 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/11/trumps-crooked-census-deliberately-missed-19-million-americans/

03:48 TR Bot; Trumps crooked Census deliberately missed 19 million Americans. BaronHK's Rants

03:48 matey; just to clear some things up, mib_ was not ahoy. i dont know who mib_ was-- i DO know who ahoy is

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03:49 matey; i think mib_ was sincere but he was also overly focused on one thing

03:50 matey; the really hilarious thing about roy working for "open source" was that it partnered with a company taking over the entire gnu/linux ecosystem for 10 years, while roy defended it and mincer protested

03:50 matey; roy should have mentioned he works for "open source" because he does. he should have mentioned red hat because he defended systemd. though i know he wont admit he was defending him, so its sort of moot

03:50 matey; thats all. have fun.

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03:51 DaemonFC; https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/10/ilhan-omar-gets-a-primary-challenger/

03:51 Alternative link; Cloudflare: politicalwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/10/ilhan-omar-gets-a-primary-challenger/

03:51 TR Bot; Ilhan Omar Gets a Primary Challenger

03:51 DaemonFC; She deserves a primary challenger.

03:52 DaemonFC; A Muslim woman who hates America and voted not to punish Russia doesn't deserve a seat in Congress.

03:52 DaemonFC; Of the 17 members of Congress who voted not to sanction Russia, 15 were Republicans, and 1 was Ilhan Omar.

03:53 DaemonFC; She didn't say why she didn't back it, but even if we assume it was over the provision to try to get Russia booted out of the WTO being dropped, the Senate is going to put that back in, and then it goes to a joint committee where it's most likely going to be kept.

03:54 DaemonFC; Voting against it doesn't make any statement except that you're an asshole who is slowing the bill down.

03:54 DaemonFC; If she doesn't want Russia sanctioned harshly, she shouldn't be in Congress. If she doesn't understand how the legislative process works, she also shouldn't be in Congress.

4 AM, March 11

04:01 DaemonFC; https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/10/baseball-is-back/

04:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: politicalwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/10/baseball-is-back/

04:01 TR Bot; Baseball Is Back

04:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Excellent. I wonder what the Cubs will be doing. Probably figuring out new ways to lose.

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5 AM, March 11

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05:07 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.18 k/sec., IPFS upstream 76.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.86

05:08 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/03/10/1085792118/americans-stress-is-spiking-over-inflation-war-in-ukraine-survey-finds

05:08 Alternative link; Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/03/10/1085792118/americans-stress-is-spiking-over-inflation-war-in-ukraine-survey-finds

05:08 TR Bot; Stress spikes in the U.S. over inflation, Ukraine, lingering pandemic fatigue : Shots - Health News : NPR

05:09 DaemonFC; NPR: Americans are miserable but we won't mention Biden anywhere. People of color people of color blah blah who cares how white people are feeling.

05:10 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/03/08/1084356769/kids-vaccines-needle-phobia

05:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/03/08/1084356769/kids-vaccines-needle-phobia

05:10 TR Bot; COMIC: When kids fear vaccines, try these tips to help them through : Shots - Health News : NPR

05:11 DaemonFC; More bullshit about foisting an obsolete vaccine on children who aren't affected much by COVID.

05:11 DaemonFC; Uncle Bill must not be very happy. Moderna stock lost almost all of its "value" in just 6 months.

05:13 DaemonFC; "How to bribe and threaten children. A bedtime story by Uncle Bill."

05:13 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/03/10/1085243050/unhealthy-pandemic-habits

05:13 Alternative link; Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/03/10/1085243050/unhealthy-pandemic-habits

05:13 TR Bot; How to reboot from unhealthy pandemic habits : Shots - Health News : NPR

05:14 DaemonFC; "Pandemic-related". In Russia, where things have usually tended to be bad, drinking yourself to death is not a new thing.

05:19 AdmFubar; https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/09/the-race-to-5g-was-more-of-a-waddle-to-nowhere/

05:19 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/09/the-race-to-5g-was-more-of-a-waddle-to-nowhere/

05:19 TR Bot; Race To 5G Was More Of A Waddle To Nowhere | Techdirt

05:22 AdmFubar; feeling stupid? https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/03/220307162011.htm

05:22 TR Bot; exposure in last century shrank IQ scores of half of Americans, study finds: Leaded gasoline calculated to have stolen more than 800 million cumulative IQ points since the 1940s -- ScienceDaily

05:25 AdmFubar; https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/elon-musk-starlink-ukraine/

05:25 Alternative link; Cloudflare: snopes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/elon-musk-starlink-ukraine/

05:25 TR Bot; Elon Musk Sent Starlink Terminals to Ukraine, But at What Safety Cost? | Snopes.com

05:27 DaemonFC; They have to make EVERYTHING about race.

05:27 DaemonFC; Of course, if you read between the lines, the liberals are actually saying "lead gas could be why black people are dumb".

05:28 DaemonFC; Now who is racist?

05:28 DaemonFC; This despite the fact that it was in ALL gasoline sold back then and areas with white people probably had the most cars.

05:31 mjg59_; Whose neighbourhoods did freeways get built through

05:33 DaemonFC; Fuck. schestowitz MinceR

05:34 DaemonFC; I think something is broken.

05:34 DaemonFC; But in all fairness, cars burn the most fuel per mile in the city, you know.

05:35 DaemonFC; Mine will happily get about 30-ish on the highway, but you get it in town and it drops to like 16-18.

05:38 mjg59_; The downtown areas that have largely had skewed demographics since white flight?

05:41 mjg59_; But even so, https://www.edf.org/airqualitymaps/oakland/air-pollution-and-health-east-oakland shows that freeways have disproportionate levels of pollution compared to surface roads

05:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: edf.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.edf.org/airqualitymaps/oakland/air-pollution-and-health-east-oakland

05:41 TR Bot; Air pollution and health in East Oakland | Environmental Defense Fund

05:46 mjg59_; https://www.edf.org/airqualitymaps/oakland/pollution-and-health-concerns-west-oakland is probably better, it covers downtown Oakland as well

05:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: edf.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.edf.org/airqualitymaps/oakland/pollution-and-health-concerns-west-oakland

05:46 TR Bot; How pollution impacts health in West Oakland | Environmental Defense Fund

05:48 mjg59_; Impressive just how bad 980 is, given how little traffic it carries

6 AM, March 11

06:01 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 22.83 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.88

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06:53 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> But even so, https://www.edf.org/airqualitymaps/oakland/air-pollution-and-health-east-oakland shows that freeways have disproportionate levels of pollution compared to surface roads

06:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: edf.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.edf.org/airqualitymaps/oakland/air-pollution-and-health-east-oakland

06:53 DaemonFC; That would be because of the constant traffic jams, most likely.

06:53 DaemonFC; Even places with good public transit get those.

06:53 DaemonFC; Even when people could save money by parking the car and taking the train.

06:54 DaemonFC; The commuter rails aren't overflowing with addicts and people who randomly attack and mug you because they're expensive and there's cops.

06:54 DaemonFC; I don't know about San Francisco. They probably screwed everything up there.

06:55 DaemonFC; There's only one electrified commuter rail line.

06:56 DaemonFC; And they used to run freight trains on it until a disaster in the 1970s when there was a dense fog, which was gray, and the commuter train sitting at McCormick Place was also painted, gray unfortunately.

06:56 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 22.83 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.88

06:56 IPFS; 275.90

06:56 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> Whose neighbourhoods did freeways get built through

06:56 DaemonFC; All kinds really. When the government wants something, it just takes it.

06:57 DaemonFC; It uses eminent domain to chase you out and gives you the least possible compensation for it.

06:57 DaemonFC; Because the government is a monster.

06:57 DaemonFC; Amazingly, there are leftists out there that don't mind authoritarianism and totalitarian states and want it to be all powerful.

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06:58 matey; he doesnt REALLY think someone is from forbes, does he?

06:58 matey; someone here i mean

06:58 DaemonFC; They also want the government to take a lot more of your money and then tell you how you can have it back and what conditions there are for spending it.

06:58 matey; schestowitz: you here?

06:58 matey; wrong nick

06:58 matey; schestowitz-tr2: you here?

06:58 matey; hes probably asleep

06:59 DaemonFC; The state took 15 times as much of our household income this year as the feds (income tax) and I'm sure they'll figure out a way to convert it into the usual.

06:59 DaemonFC; Vote buying welfare, lining the pockets of the politicians themselves, corrupt unions that have ghost workers and the project they did falls apart immediately.

7 AM, March 11

07:00 matey; i know a guy from google used to come here, but you can find them at fosdem and canonical

07:00 DaemonFC; That red line flyover they did isn't a month finished and already there's chunks of concrete falling on people.

07:00 DaemonFC; Quality!

07:01 DaemonFC; You can see the rebar and everything.

07:01 DaemonFC; It looks like shit.

07:01 DaemonFC; And it cost a lot of money.

07:01 matey; why would someone be here from forbes? thats aiming low a publication like techrights

07:01 matey; its obviously putin

07:01 matey; putin himself wants to attack roy for hypocrisy about open source

07:02 matey; i dont know who the other guy is though, seemed a bit mg-ish but only if hes willing to attack roy over something he himself doesnt care about at all

07:03 matey; daemonfc its just you and me in here from what i can see

07:05 matey; anyway maybe forbes has let itself go, but i like the idea that techrights is standing up to all the big names in whatever and their people have nothing better to do than battle with the almighty roy in irc

07:06 matey; heres a better guess:

07:06 matey; the other guy (who i honestly dont know who he was) was just some guy who is pissed off

07:06 matey; random guy. maybe mg, though its a weird thing for mg to get his panties twisted about

07:06 DaemonFC; Most of the media has let themselves go.

07:06 matey; not untrue

07:06 DaemonFC; Every single goddamned article is about race now.

07:06 DaemonFC; Even when it doesn't follow.

07:06 matey; monopoly does that to an industry

07:07 DaemonFC; They just find ways to cram it in there.

07:07 matey; i mean media and marketing have merged

07:07 matey; you have to lie to your audience

07:07 matey; tell them what they want to hear

07:07 DaemonFC; Well, half of CNN's website is Amazon ads.

07:07 DaemonFC; The other half is ads about banking products.

07:07 matey; just like pcmagazine

07:07 DaemonFC; You're not going to get a lot of honest reporting.

07:07 matey; its like 1/2 inch thick and mostly ads

07:07 DaemonFC; What will they report?

07:07 matey; only now its digital

07:08 DaemonFC; Amazon is a horrible place to work and is ruining the environment and the banks are conspiring to take your house?

07:08 DaemonFC; Now that we lost all of our sponsors, here's the weather!

07:08 matey; shh, if you slag amazon then jeff bezos will come in and slag roy over it

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07:09 matey; hes very sensitive that way

07:09 DaemonFC; Hey, leave Jeff alone.

07:09 matey; but seriously amazon is worse than walmart

07:09 DaemonFC; He's been to the legal definition of space!

07:10 matey; i gave up slagging walmart (you go ahead, they suck) because amazon is like the walmart of this century, and worse

07:10 DaemonFC; Walmart is completely coming apart.

07:10 matey; its not like you have to pick just one of course

07:10 DaemonFC; And you can see it if you look closely enough.

07:10 matey; i mean theyre being beaten at their own game

07:11 matey; what hope do they have

07:11 DaemonFC; They're raising their prices, which their core demographic doesn't respond well to.

07:11 matey; usually low prices. usually.

07:11 matey; used to be low prices. used to be.

07:11 matey; remember low prices? walmart.

07:12 DaemonFC; Everything impossibly cheap.

07:12 DaemonFC; Now they can't get employees and the ones they do get, mostly just slack off and steal from them.

07:12 matey; i know how they can save at least on redoing all their signage

07:12 matey; make a little blue sticker to put over "prices" and have it say "quality" instead

07:12 matey; always low quality. always.

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07:13 DaemonFC; I've bought some decent stuff at Walmart. Not lately.

07:13 matey; full disclosure: im mostly here to make fun of roy thinking im the forbes guy

07:14 matey; i mean hes got nothing better to do than come here and talk about wal mart

07:14 matey; i bought this keyboard at walmart

07:14 matey; and its better than the one roy complains about

07:14 matey; cheaper too

07:15 DaemonFC; I don't buy much at Walmart.

07:15 matey; lets see

07:15 matey; i bought this keyboard, a belt

07:15 DaemonFC; The experience of shopping there since COVID has been extremely unpleasant.

07:15 matey; and a few years ago, the cheapest laptop they had

07:15 matey; and before that, basically nothing in 10 years

07:15 matey; but from amazon: nothing

07:15 matey; except zappos because i didnt know.

07:17 DaemonFC; Walmart's shoes don't fit me, and they fall apart too fast. Their computers are junk with Windows (more junk) and to get the prices down they ship them with extra crapware.

07:17 matey; oh actually i got some lube at walmart too, i really did

07:17 matey; but if i say that roy will think im mg for sure

07:17 DaemonFC; Sometimes I get filters and stuff for my car?

07:17 DaemonFC; Brita filters. Cat food.

07:18 DaemonFC; I mean, I leave most of the store outside the grocery area untouched.

07:18 matey; i dont know how i can prove im not-- google sucks, self-driving cars suck, mg is kind of a douche but i dont think his lawyers can get me for that one

07:18 matey; have you seen the stream filters? i think they disappeared and no one mentioned it

07:18 DaemonFC; Something happened and he's unmuted now.

07:18 matey; i think theyre brita. were.

07:18 DaemonFC; The stream filters were fast because they don't really filter anything.

07:19 DaemonFC; It was a trick.

07:19 matey; i figured but

07:19 matey; you cant get them now

07:19 DaemonFC; That's typical too. When a product flops, you get rid of it and leave anyone who invested in the system holding their dick.

07:20 DaemonFC; They've had the standard cartridges for a long time. Since at least the mid 90s, and they still work in those pitchers too. The dimensions haven't changed.

07:20 DaemonFC; They changed the cartridge to flow better, and got patents.

07:20 matey; neither has the fact that you only get half a pitcher of water

07:20 matey; which is irksome

07:21 matey; of course they make giant ones

07:22 matey; because who doesnt get a pitcher the size of a pitcher thats half full (lets be optimistic) and think "you know this would have as much water as a whole pitcher if it were the size of one of those gatorade dispensers"

07:22 matey; meanwhile if you put a standard cartridge on the sink, it works surprisingly quickly

07:22 DaemonFC; Self-drive wouldn't even be legal.

07:22 matey; you just have to put it back on after it flies off like something from a macgyver rerun

07:23 DaemonFC; Except they want to figure out how to fire millions of truck drivers and make them angry and unemployable.

07:23 matey; im surprised it doesnt have a warning label. tip for matt if hes looking for another frivolous lawsuit to file

07:23 DaemonFC; I've never (1) mistaken a pedestrian for a plastic bag (2) hit a parked police car or (3) thought it was okay to make rolling stops.

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07:24 DaemonFC; But (1) was a self-drive Uber (2) was a Tesla and (3) was....Tesla again.

07:24 Ariadne; i find it funny that my cousin's honda has better autonomous driving features than tesla

07:24 Ariadne; it doesn't have full self-driving, but it doesn't get scared and deactivate itself every 10 minutes

07:24 matey; only because the tesla was stoned out of its silicon mind

07:25 DaemonFC; I coast to the lights and then accelerate without stopping when they turn green.

07:25 matey; "hey man, i could like, been a spaceship, but im a car..."

07:25 DaemonFC; I have all the lights in the city timed so I know exactly how to do it.

07:25 matey; "whoa! plastic bag! plastic bag!"

07:26 DaemonFC; My car is still coming up on 300,000 miles.

07:26 DaemonFC; It's getting there.

07:26 Ariadne; i like how the biden administration "fix" for the pedestrian issue is to make pedestrians wear beacons

07:26 matey; if only those miles were straight up, youd be ahead of elon

07:26 matey; the fix for the biden administration is for biden to wear one, thats where they got the idea

07:27 DaemonFC; <Ariadne> i like how the biden administration "fix" for the pedestrian issue is to make pedestrians wear beacons

07:27 DaemonFC; I think they should pass out NLAW systems and make it legal to use them when you see a Tesla coming.

07:28 Ariadne; yeah what's a javelin missile between friends

07:29 matey; /me keeps issuing self-destruct codes when walking by a tesla

07:29 matey; one of these days its going to work

07:29 DaemonFC; <Ariadne> yeah what's a javelin missile between friends

07:30 DaemonFC; Look at me! I drive a Tesla! I'm destroying the world a little tiny bit slower than you are!

07:31 DaemonFC; Electric vehicle suck.

07:31 Ariadne; my tesla died at 1,767 miles

07:31 Ariadne; lmfao

07:31 matey; whats the environmental argument for a tesla? it drives back to the dealer when the owner gets over themselves and realises owning one is silly?

07:31 Ariadne; tesla is like "we can't get you a replacement drive unit until september 2022 due to supply chain issues"

07:31 mjg59_; DaemonFC: Well, as long as you agree that freeways are associated with high exhaust polution, that's good

07:31 matey; "recycle me! i smell like driver"

07:31 DaemonFC; They cost a fortune, you can't service them anywhere but at the manufacturer, and if you own one in Chicago, enjoy getting half the rated mileage on a charge half the year because it got cold out.

07:32 DaemonFC; You'd never break even with a gasoline engine, even if gas got up to $6 a gallon.

07:32 Ariadne; it sits outside the local tesla store looking sad since january

07:32 matey; should work in germany then

07:32 DaemonFC; So of course like every fucking idiotic thing politicians in California do, they say that it's such a shitty idea, it's the law.

07:32 DaemonFC; It really should fall off into the ocean.

07:33 DaemonFC; Elon Musk is a parasite. He uses his second factory in Texas to get concessions from California taxpayers on the first one.

07:33 DaemonFC; None of the jobs there are union jobs.

07:34 DaemonFC; Even though he said he wouldn't interfere in a union election, his promises are as solid as Vladimir Putin's.

07:34 DaemonFC; Conservatives buy Teslas too. They know they're not good for the environment.

07:34 DaemonFC; You plug them into the grid, the coal or natural gas emits all kinds of shit into the air too.

07:35 matey; imagine the looks on peoples faces when musk ends the invasian of ukraine by promising to buy all of putins gas that the eu doesnt want

07:35 DaemonFC; Recovering the natural gas itself causes huge emissions of methane into the atmosphere which don't do anyone any good.

07:35 matey; which of course he will back out of at the last minute

07:36 DaemonFC; They're talking about shutting down a coal plant near where I live.

07:36 DaemonFC; Not that mjg59_ will care, but I'm white.

07:37 matey; start a website, thats how you make him care

07:37 DaemonFC; When they talk about the fucking thing it's always "Black people have to breathe that OMG! Black people of color!".

07:37 mjg59_; It turns out that I'm in favour of shutting down coal plants no matter what the demographics of the surrounding area!

07:37 DaemonFC; Why is it about race? Why isn't it "People have to breathe that shit!".

07:37 DaemonFC; "Why is this legal?"

07:37 mjg59_; Nobody should have to deal with that

07:38 Ariadne; honestly this channel is far more interesting when mjg59_ is not censored

07:38 mjg59_; Nobody should have had to deal with leaded petrol either

07:38 matey; mjg59_ as long as youre here, why did you feel it was necessary to stand outside a political prisoners window with a sign saying he wasnt a wiki?

07:38 Ariadne; i'm debating making a change to the ircd to make it impossible to censor anyone

07:38 Ariadne; free speech for all

07:38 DaemonFC; Right, but the "media" keeps acting as if white people don't breathe polluted air, or like we don't exist.

07:38 mjg59_; matey: Because fuck that guy

07:38 DaemonFC; Like we inflict it on others without suffering or something.

07:39 DaemonFC; All white people do this!

07:39 matey; sound logic if i ever heard it

07:39 mjg59_; Literally nobody's saying that

07:39 Ariadne; i mean, wikileaks

07:39 Ariadne; hasn't been a wiki

07:39 Ariadne; for years

07:39 DaemonFC; We have a dastardly plot to live in the giant sacrifice zone of SOUTHERN INDIANA!

07:39 Ariadne; it seems like a valid point

07:39 DaemonFC; With the four filthiest coal plants in America within 50 square miles of each other!

07:39 matey; i always thought the name was odd

07:39 mjg59_; Nobody should have to deal with the impact of pollution

07:39 mjg59_; In the US, Black communities have frequently disproportionately suffered from that

07:40 DaemonFC; I don't believe it.

07:40 mjg59_; That doesn't mean white people are any less deserving of remediation

07:40 DaemonFC; White people were disproportionately harmed by toxic levels of ethylene oxide and the coal plant here.

07:40 DaemonFC; There the fuck is NPR on that?

07:41 mjg59_; In that specific area, yeah

07:41 DaemonFC; I'll talk to them about it. Cancer clusters.

07:41 matey; /me likes to think theres enough pollution to everyone to share

07:41 Ariadne; it's black communities and poor white communities

07:41 mjg59_; Which tells you little about the national scale

07:41 DaemonFC; It took a decade to get Stericycle and Medline to put in filters for the ethylene oxide gas.

07:42 DaemonFC; They were just releasing it and not being punished, at all.

07:42 Ariadne; the reason they focus on the black aspect is because its a lot harder for blacks to get economic mobility

07:42 DaemonFC; I mean, a decade after the campaign started. They did it much longer than that.

07:42 DaemonFC; Nobody really knew.

07:42 Ariadne; sux for everyone tho

07:42 mjg59_; https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/climate/air-pollution-minorities.html

07:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/climate/air-pollution-minorities.html

07:42 TR Bot; People of Color Breathe More Hazardous Air. The Sources Are Everywhere. - The New York Times

07:42 DaemonFC; Then the remediation plan got held up because Governor Rauner owned a bunch of stock in Stericycle.

07:43 mjg59_; (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abf4491 is the primary source)

07:43 TR Bot; ( status 503 @ https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abf4491 )

07:43 DaemonFC; And he told the state EPA to disregard it. And well, Trump was the president, so.

07:43 DaemonFC; Government fails us like it always does. To line the pockets of the governor.

07:43 DaemonFC; Killing thousands of people. Cover-ups.

07:43 mjg59_; So yeah there's actual evidence of this, it's not just something I'm making up!

07:44 DaemonFC; The thing is, until it stops being about race as if white people don't matter, you won't get white people to care.

07:44 DaemonFC; If anything, they'll see it as an attack.

07:44 mjg59_; Saying "The facts indicate that Black communities are disproportionately affected by pollution" isn't about race

07:45 DaemonFC; The way it comes across is that some lives matter more than others.

07:45 DaemonFC; The same way leftists turned "all lives matter" into "racist".

07:45 mjg59_; The way it comes across is that through history, some people's lives have mattered *less*

07:46 mjg59_; And that's necessary to understand why things are the way they are now

07:46 DaemonFC; I don't think too many people would answer "yes" to that.

07:46 DaemonFC; It would take a psychopath to answer "yes" to that. And the anti-abortion movement is trying to save mostly black people.

07:46 DaemonFC; Because most of the murder victims of abortion are black.

07:47 DaemonFC; I think a majority of the left was actually proud of Kermit Gosnell if they heard of him.

07:48 matey; people trying to save people from abortions tend to result in more botched abortions

07:48 matey; the mother is more likely to die, but since they think shes a murderer it doesnt count the same...

07:48 mjg59_; DaemonFC: Do you accept that the science indicates that Black communities have suffered more from the effects of pollution?

07:49 DaemonFC; It might skew that way but it's a societal problem, and to frame it as if only one group suffers is an insult.

07:49 mjg59_; Nobody says that only one group suffers

07:49 mjg59_; People are saying that some groups suffer more

07:49 DaemonFC; The easiest way to deal with it is the fairest way to deal with it.

07:50 matey; daemonfc: im working on an article about how people from newsweek are coming to irc to make it off-topic, care to check for typos?

07:50 DaemonFC; You come up with a comprehensive plan to retire the oldest and filthiest generating plants first.

07:50 matey; /me remembers newsweek

07:50 DaemonFC; And then take out the rest in waves as you can replace the capacity.

07:51 DaemonFC; Usually, the smaller ones don't operate as efficiently, and closing down a given capacity in smaller plants produces a larger cumulative effect in pollution reduction.

07:52 DaemonFC; Another problem we have is that the state taxes people, and gives the money to the electric company, which keeps power rates down.

07:52 mjg59_; matey: The long answer to your earlier question - he's a rapist who has harassed several people I care about and who repeatedly misgendered my partner

07:52 mjg59_; So, fuck that guy

07:52 mjg59_; He's not a good person

07:52 DaemonFC; So nobody thinks anything of wasting power because it's on their tax bill not their power bill.

07:52 DaemonFC; So again, the state fucks us.

07:53 DaemonFC; When nobody pays what something costs, nobody cares if they waste it.

07:53 DaemonFC; WHen gas was $1.50 a gallon in 2020, I didn't even really care where we went.

07:54 DaemonFC; A whole tank of gas? Pfft. <$30

07:54 DaemonFC; It's fundamentally the same with any resource.

07:54 DaemonFC; If the government stops subsidizing milk, it'll be $7 a gallon.

07:55 DaemonFC; If they stop subsidizing corn, the junk food industry stops figuring out ways to make sugar out of it, and you have fewer diabetics.

07:55 matey; mjg59_ okay, if youre actually dating someone who he treated like shit, i guess its not sociopathic to mock him when hes hiding in an embassy

07:55 DaemonFC; You charge people on Medicaid to go to the ER, they stop doing that as primary care.

07:55 matey; and stallman? (just out of curiosity)

07:56 DaemonFC; I've been emailing Stallman off and on about the IRS.

07:56 mjg59_; Stallman overruled the FSF staff when Eben Moglen threatened someone at Libreplanet

07:56 DaemonFC; The government just gave it more money with no real plan to reform it.

07:56 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 55.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.91

07:56 matey; holy shit

07:56 matey; eben moglen threatened someone?

07:56 mjg59_; He should have been banned from attending in future, Stallman overruled them

07:56 matey; ive literally never heard this

07:56 DaemonFC; It's a monster and a vicious bully that picks on poor people for tax audits and manages to collect $1 trillion a year less than existing tax law says it should.

07:57 matey; can i read about this somewhere, or-- im content to hear about it in irc but its the first ive heard of it

07:57 mjg59_; https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1374092566551883776

07:57 TR Bot; At Libreplanet in 2017, Eben Moglen threatened another attendee. This was witnessed by FSF staff. RMS said he would https://t.co/SSjvzC4pms

07:57 TR Bot; At Libreplanet in 2017, Eben Moglen threatened another attendee. This was witnessed by FSF staff. RMS said he would https://t.co/SSjvzC4pms

07:57 DaemonFC; If existing tax law was applied to the rich, you'd reduce the deficit $1 trillion.

07:57 DaemonFC; Even with Trump's tax bill unchanged other than that.

07:57 mjg59_; You're probably not going to find anyone else at the meeting who's willing to go on the record to discuss that

07:58 mjg59_; But that was why I resigned from the board

07:58 DaemonFC; mjg59_, So we can agree that in most things, government creates the problem.

07:58 DaemonFC; Then some people think that the government will come in riding a magic pony and fix the mess it caused.

07:59 DaemonFC; Deliberately, in most cases.

8 AM, March 11

08:00 DaemonFC; When you give the government more power, even if the current one wouldn't do anything bad at all with it, the next election can change everything, and then they have the same power.

08:00 matey; ok so moglen threatend to ruin someones career

08:00 matey; thats the sort of threat where details would be helpful

08:00 DaemonFC; It's better to amend the constitution to get the government out of markets and lives as much as possible.

08:00 DaemonFC; For every 1 positive thing it does, it hurts you in 9 other ways.

08:01 matey; like if he threatened to kill them, it wouldnt matter if he hit them with a brick or pushed them out a window

08:01 matey; its still a threat

08:01 mjg59_; matey: This was in retaliation for the FSF firing him for briefing against the FSF

08:01 DaemonFC; It wants to do as little as possible while making people think they need it.

08:01 DaemonFC; For the most part, it's an illusion.

08:01 matey; i didnt even know he was fired from the fsf

08:01 mjg59_; Well, "firing" - he was Pro Bono

08:02 mjg59_; But yes, he hasn't been the FSF's legal representation since 2016, I think?

08:02 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, March 10, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext

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08:02 DaemonFC; They spend 10-20% more money every year and we all know our lives improve 10-20% every year.

08:02 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing

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08:02 DaemonFC; NPR ran a story about record alcoholism and domestic violence.

08:02 matey; and im guessing the person he threatened was deb

08:02 matey; but seriously this is a guess

08:02 DaemonFC; So obviously the government spending $7 trillion a year is fixing everything.

08:02 mjg59_; Nope, but not going to get into that

08:02 matey; fair enough

08:02 mjg59_; The person he threatened didn't want to go on the record

08:03 mjg59_; FSF staff witnessed it and were going to act independently, RMS ordered them not to

08:03 DaemonFC; It's convenient that you ask "who" and you say "no comment".

08:03 matey; i only assumed deb because shes the one person i can think of in a similar field of work as moglen

08:03 DaemonFC; If you can't be specific, don't make accusations.

08:03 matey; if the accusations are honest, its okay

08:03 DaemonFC; It just makes it look like you can't back that up.

08:03 mjg59_; I can back it up, I'm just not going to

08:04 mjg59_; Because it would mean involving someone who hasn't agreed to be involved

08:04 kingoffrance; sure, but thats why real law and real courts you face your accuser

08:05 DaemonFC; Stallman is an odd guy in certain ways. Unfortunately, I think the worst part about the guy is toxic leftist politics.

08:05 DaemonFC; You'd think you'd get along famously.

08:05 mjg59_; Makes complete sense when you're the state and have the ability to impose arbitrarily harsh consequences on people

08:05 matey; im inclined to believe matt about this story for the moment until i have a reason not to

08:05 mjg59_; I'm not the state and have no such power

08:05 matey; you think hes an authoritarian, dfc

08:05 DaemonFC; He wants to turn the United States into some socialist hell pit where we roast zoo animals in Grant Park over trash cans.

08:05 DaemonFC; Not like Lightfoot isn't trying her best, but....

08:06 matey; dfc: the usa is headed for being a capitalist hell pit just like that

08:06 DaemonFC; It's very difficult to get along with extremists.

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08:06 mjg59_; If I'm lying then Eben could just sue me

08:06 matey; stallmans political solution is to try to the find the sweet spot left of centre until 1000 years from now, we have political progress. good luck to him.

08:06 mjg59_; Even under California's anti-SLAPP laws I'd be fucked

08:06 DaemonFC; Well, getting overwhelmed with welfare and spending programs is pretty much the death of a country.

08:07 matey; dfc: they shouldnt be taxing the poor to death, we agree on that

08:07 DaemonFC; Eventually, you get.....high inflation and then everyone ends up poor and....needing welfare.

08:07 matey; inflation kills everything else

08:07 DaemonFC; Eventually, producers don't produce because it's impossible to predict how to price things.

08:08 DaemonFC; What do you do when things change so fast you can barely print a menu?

08:08 DaemonFC; SLAPP Back is pretty common now.

08:11 matey; moglen should have threatened to ruin stallmans career instead

08:11 matey; then it wouldnt be a threat, but a warning

08:11 DaemonFC; Stallman doesn't seem to consider himself in a career.

08:11 matey; he would be right then

08:12 kingoffrance; funny enough, i used to joke irc doesnt have juries then i saw that http://ircnow.org/ very patriot themed, have not used. no porn. at least they try to teach people unix i guess. they didnt like leenode either it looks like

08:12 TR Bot; IRCNow

08:12 matey; one thing im foggy on is that the fsf got rid of moglen for briefing against the fsf

08:12 matey; but i would think conflict of interest makes that mandatory from moglens side anyway

08:12 mjg59_; The paper that Canonical published that said ZFS didn't violate the GPL?

08:12 DaemonFC; Dictatorships hardly ever plan for what happens when the dictator is gone.

08:12 mjg59_; He wrote that

08:12 matey; you cant brief against your own client

08:12 DaemonFC; I mean, power falls to somebody.

08:12 mjg59_; Despite the FSF position being that it did

08:13 DaemonFC; Lawyers don't know what they're doing always.

08:13 mjg59_; He wouldn't commit to not doing anything like that again, so we didn't think he could honestly represent the FSF

08:13 DaemonFC; I had five of them refuse a case one time and tell me I'd lose for sure and they wouldn't touch it.

08:13 matey; it seems like clear conflict of interest

08:14 DaemonFC; So I filed it myself and won.

08:14 matey; and i say that as a moglen fan

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08:14 matey; does conflict of interest not apply to pro-bono representation?

08:14 matey; you would think it has to

08:14 matey; otherwise the fuckery that could result

08:15 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, March 10, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/11/irc-log-100322/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/11/irc-log-100322/

08:15 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, March 10, 2022 | Techrights

08:15 mjg59_; And then at the next Libreplanet, well

08:15 DaemonFC; That's pretty funny where you go to five very pricey and highly recommended attorneys.

08:15 matey; so we didn't think he could honestly represent the FSF <- or even technically represent them.

08:15 DaemonFC; They all go "Your case is awful. It's the worst I've ever seen. I don't even want your money.".

08:15 DaemonFC; Then you file it yourself, no law degree, and win.

08:15 TR News; Jason Evangelho, who used to cover GNU/Linux at Forbes and then vanished, has made a comeback. But pay attention to this publication pattern. http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/jason-evangelho-influencer/

08:15 TR Bot; It Smells Like Marketing Not Journalism When Almost 100% of the Articles From Jason Evangelho, Senior Contributor at Forbes, Are About the Same Topic | Techrights

08:16 TR News; A terse, crude lie from Mr. Breton does not actually tackle this question; it reaffirms the widespread perception that Mr. Breton is covering up/hiding EPO corruption for his mate Benot Battistelli and the UPC lobby (or Team UPC, looking to rewrite the rules that govern them) http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/breton-lies-again/

08:16 TR Bot; Mr. Breton and EPO Corruption (Propelling an Assault on the Rule of Law and on the Courts Themselves) Endanger the Legitimacy of the EU | Techrights

08:16 DaemonFC; Now consider that many people do go to them, pay all that money, get told their case is good, then lose.

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08:21 TR News; Zorin OS 16.1 is Now Available to Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162392#comment-33028

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08:21 matey; mjg59_ were you at the fsf (in any capacity, volunteer even ) as far back as 2011?

08:23 mjg59_; matey: No - I attended Libreplanet then, but had no official association with the FSF until 2015 I think?

08:23 matey; i was just wondering. stallman made a change to his website around that time

08:23 mjg59_; I had several friends who worked for the FSF

08:23 matey; about the fsdg

08:24 matey; chances are you werent familiar with it but if you were there that far back id ask

08:24 mjg59_; Ah, I did spend some time talking to Stallman about a couple of topics

08:24 matey; basically the change was

08:24 matey; that he would no longer judge any distribution on any criteria except what was already in the fsdg

08:25 mjg59_; Hmm. Nope, I don't think I was involved in that at all

08:25 matey; oh no i didnt suspect you were involved

08:25 matey; id ask anybody who had various things to say about the fsf

08:25 matey; i doubt ill ever meet a person who knows what brought that change

08:25 mjg59_; Yeah, afraid I don't think I can help you there

08:25 matey; it was a long shot

08:26 mjg59_; Have you tried asking him?

08:26 mjg59_; He's pretty good at replying to mail if you wait long enough

08:26 matey; ive had mixed results with that

08:26 matey; he used to be very good at it

08:26 matey; i hear hes incredibly busy

08:27 matey; the moglen story is fascinating, i dont understand how a lawyer can simultaneously-- even pro bono

08:27 matey; whoever thought it was bad for the fsf, im not sure they were wrong

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08:27 matey; i dont even know how it works legally or ethically to do that

08:28 matey; and moglen is a personal hero so its very disappointing

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08:29 TR News; OpenZFS 2.1.3 is out but needs to delete GitHub. Relying on Microsoft proprietary software can cause all sorts of issues for this project. It does not even make practical sense.

08:29 TR News; Dirk Eddelbuettel: dtts 0.1.0 on CRAN: New Package http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/03/10#dtts_0.1.0

08:29 TR Bot; Thinking inside the box

08:30 TR News; Gulag gives millions of machines with Gentoo on them, but adds tons of spyware to those https://www.gentoo.org/news/2022/03/10/Gentoo-GSoC-2022.html

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08:30 TR Bot; Gentoo accepted into Google Summer of Code 2022 Gentoo Linux

08:31 bnchs; russia made it's own CA?

08:32 TR News; "Roger (radky in the forum) is working on JWMDesk 3.5, with new features and compatibility with EasyOS 3.4.1+. Roger has designed JWMDesk to work in most pup derivatives, which is a formidable task, and I take my hat off to him for doing it." https://bkhome.org/news/202203/jwmdesk-35-coming-soon.html

08:32 TR Bot; JWMDesk 3.5 coming soon

08:33 matey; mjg59_ did moglen tell the fsf that zfs was incompatible and tell canonical something different?

08:33 mjg59_; https://softwarefreedom.org/resources/2016/linux-kernel-cddl.html was what he told Canonical

08:33 TR Bot; The Linux Kernel, CDDL and Related Issues - Software Freedom Law Center

08:34 mjg59_; (Linked to from https://ubuntu.com/blog/zfs-licensing-and-linux)

08:34 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com/blog/zfs-licensing-and-linux)

08:34 TR Bot; Licensing and Linux | Ubuntu

08:34 matey; so the problem was that his professional opininon was different than fsf opinion?

08:34 mjg59_; Yeah

08:34 mjg59_; Which is fine, but not compatible with him representing the fsf

08:34 matey; sure

08:34 matey; no i mean its like this

08:35 matey; suppose i am looking for a divorce lawyer

08:35 matey; and their opinion is i should get nothing and be deported to haiti or something

08:35 mjg59_; So the fsf decided having a general counsel who publicly disagreed with fsf positions wasn't good, so found alternative counsel

08:35 matey; i mean they can have that opinion as a lawyer

08:35 matey; but im not going to use them.

08:35 mjg59_; And that should have been the end of it, Eben was still welcome at fsf events

08:35 matey; right

08:36 mjg59_; But then he turned up at Libreplanet and, well

08:36 matey; i mean the alternative is that the lawyer chooses the client, and that-- would be weird and unlike how anything really works

08:36 matey; "hi im your lawyer" "but, um, no..."

08:37 matey; no it makes sense

08:37 matey; the fsf decided having a general counsel who publicly disagreed with fsf positions wasn't good <- this seems perfectly reasonable

08:38 mjg59_; I don't agree with all of Stallman's positions on free software but I think he is trying to make the world a better place with them

08:38 matey; yeah but you signed a letter that did everything but say he eats children

08:38 mjg59_; But I don't think someone who would refuse to take action against someone who broke the rules designed to protect people should run an organisation

08:39 matey; well the funny thing is, i dont think he should be president either

08:39 matey; the letter got the attention of a LOT of russians who seemed to think it was familiar territory

08:40 TR News; Zorin OS 16.1 Brings Much Needed Stability and Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162392#comment-33029

08:40 TR Bot; Zorin OS 16.1 is Here, Creators to Donate All Profits from Zorin OS Pro to Aid Ukraine | Tux Machines

08:40 TR News; Zorin OS 16.1 Brings Much Needed Stability and Improvements Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162422

08:40 TR Bot; Zorin OS 16.1 Brings Much Needed Stability and Improvements | Tux Machines

08:43 TR News; Updates: Digital rights in the Ukraine-Russia conflict https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ "Civil society to U.S. government: Do not disrupt internet access in Russia or Belarus"

08:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/

08:43 TR Bot; Updates: Digital rights in the Ukraine-Russia conflict - Access Now

08:45 TR News; "Over 700 creators have joined in support to donate their work. All proceeds from this bundle will be split between the following charities" https://itch.io/b/1316/bundle-for-ukraine

08:45 Alternative link; Cloudflare: itch.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itch.io/b/1316/bundle-for-ukraine

08:45 TR Bot; for Ukraine by Necrosoft Games and 733 others - itch.io

08:46 TR News; "Having run FreeBSD on TigerLake on-and-off since December 2020 on two laptops, there are a few things to keep in mind." https://www.neelc.org/posts/optimize-freebsd-for-intel-tigerlake/

08:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: neelc.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.neelc.org/posts/optimize-freebsd-for-intel-tigerlake/

08:46 TR Bot; Optimizing FreeBSD Power Consumption on Modern Intel Laptops - Neel Chauhan

08:46 TR News; "The firmware is available via fw_update(8)." "https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220310135156

08:46 TR Bot; mtw(4), a driver for MediaTek MT7601U Wi-Fi devices

08:46 matey; /me pops out for a moment to do something about all this bot clutter

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08:47 TR News; "This patch adds initial 11ac support to the iwx(4) driver. This means that 80MHz channels can be used. No other 11ac features are enabled yet." https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&amp;m=164682778604627&amp;w=2

08:47 TR Bot; 'initial iwx(4) 11ac patch for testing' - MARC

08:48 TR News; "Ive published release 0.1 of v-i, my installer for Debian based on vmdb2." https://blog.liw.fi/posts/2022/03/06/v-i/

08:48 TR Bot; v-i 0.1, a Debian installer using vmdb2

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08:49 TR News; Linux and Open Source Companies Stopping Their Services in Russia Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162423

08:49 TR Bot; Linux and Open Source Companies Stopping Their Services in Russia | Tux Machines

08:49 TR News; Elive 3.8.26 beta released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162424

08:49 TR Bot; Elive 3.8.26 beta released | Tux Machines

08:49 TR News; Pockit modular Linux computer gets a Raspberry Pi CM4 upgrade Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162425

08:49 TR Bot; Pockit modular Linux computer gets a Raspberry Pi CM4 upgrade | Tux Machines

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08:54 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162426

08:54 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

08:55 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 44.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.93

08:59 TR News; Open Source Initiatives definition is quite clear: there must be no discrimination against persons or groups https://thenewstack.io/where-does-open-source-fit-into-russias-war-with-ukraine/ see http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/oss-and-equality/

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08:59 TR Bot; Where Does Open Source Fit into Russias War with Ukraine? The New Stack

08:59 TR Bot; Is Open Source Against Equality Now? | Techrights

9 AM, March 11

09:00 TR News; "Two years ago, I wrote a post with a handful of grievances about Rust, a language that I then (and still) consider my favorite compiled language" https://blog.yossarian.net/2022/03/10/Things-I-hate-about-Rust-redux

09:00 TR Bot; Things I hate about Rust, redux

09:00 TR News; SecureDrop 2.2.1 Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162427

09:00 TR Bot; SecureDrop 2.2.1 Released | Tux Machines

09:01 TR News; "News in Russian in RSS format" https://www.dn.se/om/news-in-russian/

09:01 TR Bot; in Russian - DN.SE

09:01 bnchs; "Earlier this week, open source gateway Scarf began limiting access to open source packages for Russian government and military entities, via its gateway. In the companys announcement, Scarf CEO and founder Avi Press wrote that Scarf will be blocking all package and container downloads originating from Russian Government sources until further notice.

09:02 bnchs; it's not so open source

09:02 schestowitz; it's not "so"?

09:02 schestowitz; it's either yes or no

09:02 matey; irc client issue

09:02 schestowitz; now it's no

09:03 schestowitz; Open Source Initiatives definition is quite clear: there must be no discrimination against persons or groups https://thenewstack.io/where-does-open-source-fit-into-russias-war-with-ukraine/

09:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thenewstack.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/where-does-open-source-fit-into-russias-war-with-ukraine/

09:03 schestowitz; they try to dance around this issue

09:03 matey; osi is defunct, open source trademark is generic

09:03 bnchs; uh oh

09:03 schestowitz; to justify them using the software as a political weapon

09:03 bnchs; Coraline Ada Ehmke

09:03 bnchs; the big fat whale behind "ethical" source

09:04 bnchs; "The traditionalist FLOSS insistence on the neutrality of technology, enshrined in Freedom Zero, is increasingly out of step with the reality of its global impact. Of course, we cant prevent all potential abuses of free and open source software, but is that really reason enough to throw up our hands and do nothing at all?"

09:04 matey; its ok if she shows up in the press occasionally, it saves the cost of putting a bell on her

09:04 matey; as long as its every 2 or 3 years

09:04 bnchs; everything she does is utterly retarded

09:04 TR News; You can murder people, then buy a football club in England https://fair.org/home/saudi-pr-pays-off-at-the-atlantic/

09:04 TR Bot; Saudi PR Pays Off at the Atlantic - FAIR

09:05 matey; no argument there

09:05 matey; The traditionalist FLOSS insistence on the neutrality of technology, enshrined in Freedom Zero <- if she count higher than 0 she would see the flaw in her argument

09:05 TR News; EU parliament looking at rules on replaceable batteries https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/eu-parliament-looking-at-rules-on:1

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09:05 TR Bot; EU parliament looking at rules on replaceable batteries

09:06 matey; the free software definition is not that technology is neutral

09:06 TR News; Tor still works better than nothing at all https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/become-a-tor-snowflake-and-fight:7

09:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/become-a-tor-snowflake-and-fight:7

09:06 TR Bot; Become A Tor Snowflake And Fight Censorship

09:06 matey; but that people must able to change it and share it

09:06 bnchs; it's basically reflex

09:06 TR News; VLOG: New Computer for this Inkscape Developer - Invidious https://yewtu.be/dGmCt8UHHB4

09:06 TR Bot; VLOG: New Computer for this Inkscape Developer - Invidious

09:06 bnchs; when i see her name, i know it's gonna be something stupd

09:06 matey; but when people take 25% (or less) of an argument and present that as an argument, theyre bound to say something stupid

09:07 TR News; "The Zettelkasten Method is an amplifier of your endeavors in the realm of knowledge work. It is highly effective, and many people report they have more fun, one even comparing it to the addictive nature of games like World of Warcraft" https://zettelkasten.de/introduction/

09:08 TR Bot; Introduction to the Zettelkasten Method Zettelkasten Method

09:08 bnchs; didn't she make Contributor Covenant to try to kick some developer who said something in their twitter

09:08 matey; i dont know, its been a long time since i cared about anything she said

09:09 matey; contributor convenant is just another scam

09:09 bnchs; she also made Organization for Ethical Source

09:09 bnchs; which signed the open letter against RMS

09:09 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/28/us/politics/ukraine-russia-microsoft.html http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/

09:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/28/us/politics/ukraine-russia-microsoft.html

09:09 TR Bot; Tech Companies Help Defend Ukraine Against Cyberattacks - The New York Times

09:09 TR Bot; Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights

09:09 matey; yeah its not enough to sign, you should also make an organisation to pad the list with

09:09 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.ft.com/content/1fb2f592-4806-42fd-a6d5-735578651471 http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/

09:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ft.com/content/1fb2f592-4806-42fd-a6d5-735578651471

09:10 TR Bot; The secret US mission to bolster Ukraines cyber defences ahead of Russias invasion | Financial Times

09:10 bnchs; obviously she is trying to gain control over free software

09:10 bnchs; and kick developers that don't agree with her opinion

09:10 matey; she would have to get in line

09:10 matey; behind a lot of trolls with more convincing arguments than hers

09:11 bnchs; yeah

09:11 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/big-techs-support-for-ukraine-recasts-industrys-global-role/ http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/

09:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/big-techs-support-for-ukraine-recasts-industrys-global-role/

09:11 TR Bot; Tech's Support for Ukraine Recasts Industry's Global Role - CNET

09:11 bnchs; she forces free software projects to implement her code of conduct

09:11 bnchs; or else they'll get harassed

09:11 bnchs; and framed as a racist bigot project

09:12 schestowitz; rules can be good

09:12 schestowitz; but if forced to adopt these, as projects, that's seen as trolling

09:12 schestowitz; and counterproductive to ground rule

09:12 bnchs; there are some cases where she did that

09:12 matey; rules that are arbitrary and implemented for motives other than those stated tend to have consequences that dont end well

09:12 schestowitz; it then gets spun as a "corporate plot"

09:12 schestowitz; feminism became a lot like this

09:13 schestowitz; many people now uses words like "feminazi"

09:13 matey; you know what the "woke" crowd was called 100 years ago? literally a century ago. not making this up

09:13 schestowitz; likely because either they received abusive by combative women

09:13 schestowitz; or companies misused women's rights and in turn stigmatised these

09:13 matey; there were fewer of them

09:13 matey; it was a bit before twitter

09:14 schestowitz; twitter is really bad

09:14 schestowitz; not sure about FB

09:14 matey; "social chauvanists"

09:14 schestowitz; never used it really

09:14 schestowitz; but saw the wife's account

09:14 schestowitz; utter waste of time

09:14 schestowitz; she quit like 8 years ago

09:14 TR News; Proprietary junk from Apple https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/10/22967995/apple-mac-studio-usb-a-ports-display-macbook-pro-imac-2022-connectivity

09:14 TR Bot; Thank you, Apple, for keeping USB-A on the Mac Studio - The Verge

09:15 matey; social chauvanists put progress before anything else

09:15 matey; even before the people that progress is meant to help :)

09:15 TR News; This is obviously a product for dumb people, not smart people: "lets the vacuum learn your homes floor plan" https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/10/22967391/irobot-roomba-i3-update-smart-mapping

09:15 TR Bot; iRobots Roomba i3 and i3 Plus robot vacuums can now map your house. - The Verge

09:15 bnchs; oh i remember this

09:16 bnchs; https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/941

09:16 TR Bot; maintainer should be removed from project Issue #941 opal/opal GitHub

09:16 TR News; "On Thursday, just eight months after the measure took effect, lawmakers approved a bill to lift the blanket ban." https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/virginia-lawmakers-lifting-ban-facial-technology-83372991

09:16 TR Bot; Virginia lawmakers OK lifting ban on facial technology use - ABC News

09:16 bnchs; made by corelina

09:16 matey; today theyre called the woke crowd, but it wasnt originally the right wing that complained about them

09:17 TR News; Oh, do not say "Big Tech" https://pluralistic.net/2022/03/08/three-freedoms/#alphabet-soup "Big Tech" is a lobbying term of Microsoft: http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/

09:17 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 08 Mar 2022 Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

09:17 TR Bot; Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights

09:17 bnchs; THEN

09:17 bnchs; https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/942

09:17 TR Bot; a Code of Conduct Issue #942 opal/opal GitHub

09:17 bnchs; which got rejected

09:18 matey; i dont think ive heard of opal since that happened

09:18 matey; but i remember that link

09:19 schestowitz; github

09:19 matey; matt left as soon as i mentioned the letter

09:19 schestowitz; microsoft: we tolerate some trolls

09:19 schestowitz; but not others

09:19 matey; tbh i didnt think he would, he was happy to talk about anything else

09:19 bnchs; schestowitz, she tried to kick out a "transphobic" maintainer for stating their opinion on twitter

09:20 *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights

09:20 schestowitz; not related to the project at all

09:20 *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@b3g8b57uk9y4e.irc) has joined #techrights

09:20 schestowitz; I'd rather they kick out bad coders

09:20 schestowitz; and let people have a personal life

09:20 bnchs; then she got BTFO'd by the creator saying that she had to contribute as much code as the maintainer did

09:20 schestowitz; BTW, Twiitter banned the lead dev from clownlinux

09:20 schestowitz; I am guessing for expressing the 'wrong' view on Ukraine, which he came from

09:21 matey; maybe now that theres a new reason to suspend all legitimate uses of technology, theyll finally get rid of covid

09:21 matey; tongue in cheek

09:22 bnchs; she doesn't believe in kicking out bad coders

09:22 bnchs; because thats bad and not diverse enough

09:22 bnchs; she wants the good coders out and the bad coders in

09:23 matey; to be fair, she really just wants to control bad people

09:23 matey; by her definition of bad, and her own idea of what sane limits on control are

09:24 matey; and of course without any comment on what could go wrong, because only bad people would have a problem with this

09:24 bnchs; i thought having different opinions in a discussion is healthy

09:24 matey; healthy is bad

09:24 bnchs; but to her people with different opinions need to be shot

09:24 matey; she didnt say shot

09:24 bnchs; yeah ik

09:25 bnchs; but really i don't know how i should say this

09:25 matey; just silenced and forbidden from working on projects they may have founded themselves

09:25 bnchs; yes

09:25 matey; and of course banned from twitter

09:25 matey; or anywhere else they might defend themselves from bogus accusations

09:26 matey; but nothing good comes without prices you know

09:28 mjg59_; matey: Mm? Sorry I thought I answered you.

09:28 bnchs; i remember

09:28 bnchs; did that guy who had some repoistory named "awesome djano"

09:28 bnchs; django*

09:28 matey; you may have, mjg59_ but it didnt show

09:28 bnchs; he got shadowbanned from github

09:28 matey; i was having an issue with the client at the time

09:28 bnchs; and then banned entirely

09:28 bnchs; iirc

09:29 bnchs; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18686301

09:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ycombinator.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18686301

09:29 TR Bot; GitHub deplatforms Code of Merit Author Roberto Rosario | Hacker News

09:29 bnchs; "Rosario's account had been in a sort of limited state for years which didn't allow people to follow him on GitHub. According to sources close to GitHub, the platform had enough but had to wait until the Linux Kernel adoption of a code of conduct story died down to take down the Code of Merit repository. Terms of service violations were cited as the reason to take down the repositories and the account."

09:30 schestowitz-TR2; Microsoft

09:31 schestowitz-TR2; what sane developers lets Microsoft control a project?

09:31 schestowitz-TR2; Let them suffer...

09:31 matey; the thing about zero tolerance policies is they always say "it wont be like that"

09:31 bnchs; this is an example of github censorship

09:31 schestowitz-TR2; in due course, more people leave that platgform

09:31 schestowitz-TR2; they see it for what it is

09:31 matey; schestowitz-TR2 in due course, the sun will explode

09:31 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/04/20/mpaa-riaa-still-bossing-github/

09:32 TR Bot; Microsoft as a Censorship Machine Working to Undermine Free Software and Code Sharing (Also Sharing in General) | Techrights

09:32 bnchs; "GitHub joins the Python Software Foundation, the Django Software Foundation and the International Games Developer Association in their effort to silence Rosario and his movement against code of conducts in free open source projects"

09:32 schestowitz; they also censor Microsoft critics already

09:32 matey; 200,000 left, its been a trickle ever since

09:32 schestowitz; GitHub: you cannot criticise criminals

09:32 bnchs; so he basically started a movement against code of conducts

09:32 matey; though i think i2p might be leaving, which is nice

09:32 schestowitz; many leave

09:32 bnchs; but got destroyed by github, python, django, and international games developer association

09:33 schestowitz; or just make ikt a mirror

09:33 schestowitz; for legacy reasons

09:33 bnchs; his repos taken down

09:33 matey; be nice to see even a partial list of "many"

09:33 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/fleeing-github/

09:33 TR Bot; Microsoft: The Year After We Bought GitHub There Was a Significant Decline in Number of New Projects on GitHub | Techrights

09:33 matey; i can think of a couple

09:33 schestowitz; the Microsoft stench is still a 'thing'

09:34 matey; basically every programming language is there

09:34 matey; and for those which arent-- the libraries are

09:34 matey; lua isnt github-- the libraries are

09:34 matey; boost (c++) is there

09:35 TR News; raspberrypi 'shilling' Microsoft (Mono) crap again https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/unity-introduction-livestream/

09:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: raspberrypi.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/unity-introduction-livestream/

09:35 TR Bot; Create 3D worlds with code on our first-ever Unity livestream - Raspberry Pi

09:35 bnchs; i remember when youtube-dl repo was taken down

09:35 matey; maybe when the percentage of the free software directory from the fsf isnt > 50% github

09:35 bnchs; everyone mirrored the youtube-dl code everywhere

09:35 bnchs; even on torrent

09:36 bnchs; until github reinstated it

09:36 TR News; "The basic claim in these lawsuits is broadly the same: that portions of songs by the famous musicians are similar to those of pre-existing works" https://walledculture.org/a-further-spate-of-lawsuits-demonstrate-how-copyright-is-antithetical-to-creativity/

09:36 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/a-further-spate-of-lawsuits-demonstrate-how-copyright-is-antithetical-to-creativity/ )

09:37 matey; or maybe when as many projects move away as they move to (we havent crossed that threshold yet)

09:37 TR News; The same Massie who is fronting for litigious fanatics from the patent extortion cartel https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/10/thomas-massie-ukraine-resolution/

09:37 TR Bot; Why Rep. Thomas Massie stood against "stand with Ukraine" resolution - The Grayzone

09:37 matey; currently its not even moving in the right direction, let alone quickly

09:37 TR News; DRM won't help artists, it's about the cartel milking them https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/tiktok-soundon-launch-direct-upload-1235200346/

09:37 Alternative link; Cloudflare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/tiktok-soundon-launch-direct-upload-1235200346/

09:37 TR Bot; SoundOn Lets Artists Upload, Monetize Their Music Directly - Variety

09:38 matey; im not saying it wont happen, just that its very silly to get the noisemakers out yet

09:38 *bnchs__ (~bnchs@ysmbdnm3xh2vq.irc) has joined #techrights

09:38 matey; maybe even pointless

09:38 schestowitz-TR2; many projects were there before Microsoft

09:39 schestowitz-TR2; also afaik microsoft loses money on this

09:39 schestowitz-TR2; the plan is to turn it into a sales thing somewhere else

09:39 schestowitz-TR2; like azure

09:39 matey; including the ones that moved there after 2018?

09:39 matey; im just talking about the projects moving there vs the ones leaving

09:39 schestowitz-TR2; but if they push too hard, projects will flee so it's a delicate dance

09:39 schestowitz-TR2; the media only counts what's there

09:39 bnchs__; schestowitz-TR2, they won't be able to move, if they lock up certain files

09:39 *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

09:40 schestowitz-TR2; which gives an illsion

09:40 bnchs__; such as LFS files

09:40 schestowitz-TR2; they don't count millions of git projects that aren't even public

09:40 bnchs__; you can't clone LFS files unless the owner pays

09:40 schestowitz-TR2; maybe firewalled

09:40 matey; the best approach is to probably start with software that is listed by the fsf, or even debian

09:41 matey; and assume people actually use that

09:41 matey; and then use that to see the direction this is really going in

09:41 matey; you can hardly trust github to be a measure of how much is flowing to github

09:41 schestowitz-TR2; we did that

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09:41 matey; you did huh?

09:42 matey; any information on 2021?

09:42 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/Github-free

09:42 TR Bot; Github-free - Techrights

09:42 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/Github_Projects_on_Tiny_Core

09:42 TR Bot; Github Projects on Tiny Core - Techrights

09:42 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/Delete_Github

09:42 TR Bot; Delete Github - Techrights

09:42 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/OctoGNU_timeline

09:42 TR Bot; OctoGNU timeline - Techrights

09:42 matey; right, how old is that?

09:42 schestowitz; about 2 years

09:42 matey; im not saying its invalid, but

09:43 matey; it doesnt show the movement between 2 years ago and what youre saying now

09:43 matey; and youre saying its improving

09:43 TR News; When your system/economy is collapsing, provoke and start wars https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/10/congress-american-workers-war-russia/

09:43 TR Bot; VIDEO: Congress screws American workers to escalate war on Russia - The Grayzone

09:43 matey; but i dont think anything on debian, or tinycore, has actually moved away from github

09:44 matey; not percentage-wise, not even a statistically-significant amount.

09:44 matey; but a couple projects? i dont doubt that at all

09:44 TR News; Cops acting like vigilantes https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2022/03/ann-arbor-human-rights-group-calls-for-transparency-in-police-traffic-stops.html

09:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mlive.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2022/03/ann-arbor-human-rights-group-calls-for-transparency-in-police-traffic-stops.html

09:44 TR Bot; Arbor human rights group calls for transparency in police traffic stops - mlive.com

09:44 matey; its just not significant

09:44 matey; im not cheering on microsoft, im just saying its worse than you seem to think

09:44 TR News; "Flipkart has apologised for a marketing misfire which saw the e-commerce platform promoting kitchen appliances on Women's Day" https://www.ndtv.com/offbeat/flipkart-apologises-for-womens-day-message-promoting-kitchen-appliances-2812045

09:44 TR Bot; Flipkart Apologises For Women's Day Message Promoting Kitchen Appliances

09:44 matey; they should all delete github

09:45 matey; but we have to dance around that.

09:45 TR News; "However, while weve left the country, we do not want to, and will not, stop working. We want to make sure that people can still read about what is actually taking place. Working from outside Russia is the only thing that makes sense." https://cpj.org/2022/03/censor-yourself-or-dont-work-at-all-why-squeezed-russian-journalists-are-fleeing-in-droves/

09:45 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cpj.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cpj.org/2022/03/censor-yourself-or-dont-work-at-all-why-squeezed-russian-journalists-are-fleeing-in-droves/

09:45 TR Bot; Censor yourself or dont work at all: Why squeezed Russian journalists are fleeing in droves - Committee to Protect Journalists

09:46 TR News; "Weibo and Tencent Holdings, which owns WeChat, did not respond to requests for comment on why such material had been removed or accounts suspended." https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/china-censors-online-ukraine-debate-bars-calls-for-peace-2

09:46 TR Bot; China censors online Ukraine debate, bars calls for peace | Financial Post

09:47 TR News; Censoring UN: "The United Nations Department of Global Communications instructed staff of the international organisation not to refer to the situation in Ukraine as a war or invasion, in a move to balance political sensitivities" https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/united-nations-advises-staff-against-using-war-or-invasion-regarding-ukraine-1.4821438

09:47 TR Bot; United Nations advises staff against using war or invasion regarding Ukraine

09:47 TR News; "The blocking of VOAs VK page was preceded by Russian efforts to block Voice of Americas website in Russian" https://www.insidevoa.com/a/6479745.html

09:47 TR Bot; Russian Warfare on Press Freedom Continues with VKs Blocking of VOA

09:48 schestowitz; matey: there are new projects all the time

09:48 matey; thats great

09:48 schestowitz; the total proportion % in Microsoft is decreasing

09:49 schestowitz; it'll be another codeplex in 10 years or less

09:49 schestowitz; and they might shut it down in that period, too

09:49 matey; 10 years a long time.

09:49 schestowitz; due to lack of a business mode

09:49 schestowitz; they already sacked some managers

09:49 schestowitz; but for unrelated reasons

09:49 matey; yeah i mean, that would be great

09:49 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/balabhadra-alex-graveley-arrest-warrant-and-affidavit/

09:49 TR Bot; [Teaser] Meet Microsofts Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot, Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley (Updated) | Techrights

09:49 matey; obviously the sooner microsoft fails, the sooner people will leave github

09:49 matey; in 10 years though

09:49 matey; et me put it this way

09:49 schestowitz; 10 years is a LOT of time

09:50 schestowitz; in software terms

09:50 matey; there was a guy listed in the free software directory

09:50 matey; the fsf one

09:50 matey; the first time i saw his entry and went to his website, i found out he had died within the past month

09:50 matey; fortunately, his code was on his own website

09:51 matey; unfortunately, his family was taking it down-- fortunately, someone archived it.

09:51 TR News; Boycott Twitter. It's just a propaganda and hate site. https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/10/22971307/twitter-home-timeline-algorithmic-reverse-chronological-feed

09:51 TR Bot; Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed - The Verge

09:51 matey; but suppose it had been on github

09:51 matey; then in 10 years it would be gone

09:51 matey; the longer projects continue to the move there

09:51 TR News; Twitter is acting more like a military operation, not an online platform. https://thehill.com/policy/technology/597758-twitter-removes-russian-embassy-tweets-over-mariupol-hospital-bombing

09:51 TR Bot; removes Russian embassy tweets over Mariupol hospital bombing, victim | TheHill

09:52 matey; ths more projects will be lost permanently-- some bigger ones will be salvaged of course

09:52 matey; its not like no one will find a copy of gnupg around

09:52 TR News; The World Wide Web has become a weapon of war https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/10/technology/disinformation-russia-ukraine.html

09:52 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/10/technology/disinformation-russia-ukraine.html

09:52 TR Bot; 4 Falsehoods Russians Are Told About the War - The New York Times

09:52 matey; but its a library that is set to burn to the ground

09:52 matey; and its still trapping new projects

09:52 TR News; "he war in Ukraine is being fought not only with tanks and missiles, but also with propaganda and censorship" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/10/zelensky-is-going-viral-but-putin-is-winning-the-information-war/

09:52 Alternative link; Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/10/zelensky-is-going-viral-but-putin-is-winning-the-information-war/

09:52 TR Bot; Opinion | Putins ability to censor news out of Ukraine limits Zelenskys media appeal - The Washington Post

09:53 matey; the more we act like this isnt a problem, the more projects it will destroy permanently

09:53 matey; was it you or dfc who said that when microsoft buys someone, they have about 10 years?

09:53 matey; it was daemonfc

09:54 matey; with github, its longer. they might survive the takeover.

09:54 matey; might.

09:54 TR News; Great stuff! "Spotify Sees 1.5M Subscriber Cancelations" https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/spotify-russia-subscriber-cancel-joe-rogan-1235200533/

09:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/spotify-russia-subscriber-cancel-joe-rogan-1235200533/

09:54 TR Bot; 1.5M Cancelations Amid Russia War, Joe Rogan Impact Minimal - Variety

09:54 mjg59_; Github makes money from their enterprise customers, the free public repositories are just to get people used to the product

09:54 mjg59_; There's probably way more than a decade given how many companies are already using it

09:55 matey; yeah buy roy thinks anything bad will magically die in 10 years

09:55 matey; that sort of wishful thinking is common

09:55 matey; not realistic, just common

09:55 matey; techrights is 15 years old, im sure github will take real soon now

09:55 matey; tank

09:55 mjg59_; Same business model as Gitlab - the enterprise product covers the free stuff

09:55 matey; its a shame gitlab sucks so much

09:56 schestowitz; gitlab loses money

09:56 matey; im not saying github is best-- just that its weird that gitlab makes it to #2

09:56 matey; its to bloated and their freemium nonsense is... is there a timer or something? like how much time you can use it?

09:56 matey; i cant stand using gitlab

09:57 matey; it was one of those things where i signed up and used it for a day, then never logged in again

09:57 TR News; "This was pretty much business as usual in the twilight of the fossil-fuel age." https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/putin-russia-ukraine-fossil-fuels-climate-change-1319417/

09:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: rollingstone.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/putin-russia-ukraine-fossil-fuels-climate-change-1319417/

09:57 TR Bot; Putin's Power Is Fossil Fuels. Clean Energy Is His Kryptonite - Rolling Stone

09:57 matey; there are other options, but people seem to think its github or gitlab

09:57 TR News; "Ukraines foreign minister, Dmytro Kuleba, warned in a tweet that reserve diesel generators will operate for only 48 hours." https://www.newscientist.com/article/2311591-chernobyl-power-cut-sparks-fears-of-potential-for-radiation-leaks/

09:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: newscientist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.newscientist.com/article/2311591-chernobyl-power-cut-sparks-fears-of-potential-for-radiation-leaks/

09:57 TR Bot; Russia-Ukraine war: Chernobyl power cut sparks fears of potential for radiation leaks | New Scientist

09:58 TR News; "MEPs are in favour of overhauling the current legislation to take into account technological developments." https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220304IPR24805/new-rules-on-batteries-meps-want-more-environmental-and-social-ambition

09:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: europa.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220304IPR24805/new-rules-on-batteries-meps-want-more-environmental-and-social-ambition

09:58 TR Bot; New rules on batteries: MEPs want more environmental and social ambition | News | European Parliament

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10:02 matey; twitters been losing money since it started i think

10:03 matey; github is basically twitter for code

10:03 matey; send us a pull tweet

10:03 matey; obviously the posts are longer but the censorship and algorithms work similarly

10:04 matey; twitter and github in a race to their deaths

10:04 matey; but it wont be soon enough

10:07 *SkywaveC3 (~SkywaveC3@bqwgqayjjgt64.irc) has joined #techrights

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10:08 *CrystalMath (~coderain@9p9dbh78edsba.irc) has joined #techrights

10:10 schestowitz-TR2; matey: for a few quarters (at least one) twitter said it had profited a bit

10:11 schestowitz-TR2; it's back in losses for sure

10:11 schestowitz-TR2; last year, the year before that

10:11 schestowitz-TR2; we recently did an article about it

10:11 schestowitz-TR2; in terms of real activity, twitter has been waning since they cut off third parties

10:11 schestowitz-TR2; I assume to push more ads

10:12 schestowitz; on github losses: http://techrights.org/2020/04/08/githug/

10:12 TR Bot; GitHug A Guest Article by Thomas Grzybowski | Techrights

10:15 TR News; Only the copyright cartel was profiting https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/covid-touring-musicians-aid/

10:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/covid-touring-musicians-aid/

10:15 TR Bot; Covid and Canceled Gigs Have Left Musicians High and Dry | The Nation

10:15 bnchs__; finding a good email service is really hard

10:16 bnchs__; cock.li is locked up behind an invite-wall

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs__: you can register your own

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; it's not very expensive

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; domain name, then host

10:16 bnchs__; how much does host cost

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; with the webhost I use 12 pounds a year

10:17 schestowitz-TR2; the domain is the more pricey part

10:17 matey; in terms of real activity, twitter has been waning since they cut off third parties <- maybe twitter will go first then

10:17 matey; win the race

10:17 bnchs__; thats so cheap

10:17 TR News; How NOT to solve a crisis https://www.thenation.com/article/society/covid-biden-policy-abdandonment/

10:17 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/society/covid-biden-policy-abdandonment/

10:17 TR Bot; The Biden Administration Turns Its Back on the Pandemic | The Nation

10:18 TR News; Then patents that kill millions of people https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/10/two-years-pandemic-die-ins-will-demand-end-big-pharmas-grip-vaccine-patents

10:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/10/two-years-pandemic-die-ins-will-demand-end-big-pharmas-grip-vaccine-patents

10:18 TR Bot; Two Years Into Pandemic, Die-Ins Will Demand End to Big Pharma's Grip on Vaccine Patents

10:19 TR News; Way to milk COVID-19 vaccine patents for several more years. They have no financial incentive to solve it. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/10/choice-extend-pandemic-experts-slam-congress-dropping-covid-aid

10:19 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/10/choice-extend-pandemic-experts-slam-congress-dropping-covid-aid

10:19 TR Bot; 'A Choice to Extend the Pandemic': Experts Slam Congress for Dropping Covid Aid

10:20 TR News; So what if it kills a million Americans, right?

10:20 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs__: but in the future prices can rise

10:21 schestowitz-TR2; this price has been the same for nearly 20 years

10:22 TR News; "With Open Culture VOICES, were thrilled to bring you various perspectives from dozens of experts speaking in many different languages on what its like to open up heritage content online." https://creativecommons.org/2022/03/10/episode-11-open-culture-voices-alwaleed-alkhaja/

10:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/03/10/episode-11-open-culture-voices-alwaleed-alkhaja/

10:22 TR Bot; Episode 11: Open Culture VOICES Alwaleed Alkhaja - Creative Commons

10:22 TR News; "In this episode, were joined byMaja Drabczyk, Head of Policy and Advocacy at Centrum Cyfrowe in Poland." https://creativecommons.org/2022/03/10/episode-12-open-culture-voices-maja-drabczyk/

10:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/03/10/episode-12-open-culture-voices-maja-drabczyk/

10:22 TR Bot; Episode 12: Open Culture VOICES Maja Drabczyk - Creative Commons

10:24 TR News; What sanctions do more harm than good: https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/10/why-sanctions-could-deal-a-fatal-blow-to-russias-already-weak-domestic-opposition/ also see http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/donetsk-and-gulag-or-google-now-bans-parts-of-ukraine-for-being-invaded-by-russia/

10:24 Alternative link; Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/10/why-sanctions-could-deal-a-fatal-blow-to-russias-already-weak-domestic-opposition/

10:24 TR Bot; Sanctions Could Deal a Fatal Blow to Russia's Already Weak Domestic Opposition - CounterPunch.org

10:24 TR Bot; When Sanctions Go Toxic: Google, Co-Founded by Moscovite, Agrees With Moscow and Recognises Mariupol (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia | Techrights

10:28 *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@avascqchmtewq.irc) has joined #techrights

10:29 matey; hi SomeH4x0r

10:29 SomeH4x0r; hi

10:30 TR News; It's good that Western media blasts Russian for bombing hospitals. Just don't forget to remind audiences that the US bombs hospitals too. Worse yet, it then uses machine guns on survivors.

10:31 matey; we are waiting 10 years for github to fall over (and taking bets on when it happens i guess)

10:31 TR News; Aaron Swartz on The News gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-08-26-Aaron-Swartz-on-The-News.txt

10:32 schestowitz-TR2; Google Code dead

10:32 matey; matt says probably way more than a decade, i hate to agree

10:32 schestowitz-TR2; CodePlex dead

10:32 matey; codeplex is now github

10:32 schestowitz-TR2; GitLab nnd GitLab: losing moey

10:32 schestowitz-TR2; error: no business model found..

10:32 schestowitz-TR2; Git is Free software

10:32 schestowitz-TR2; you can host it very cheaply

10:33 schestowitz-TR2; you only conenct it it once an hour on an averagr project

10:33 matey; oh i dont code every hour

10:34 matey; /me wonders if canonical ever found a business model

10:34 TR News; "None of these stories have relevance to my life. Reading them may be enjoyable, but its an enjoyable waste of time. They will have no impact on my actions one way or another." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-08-26-Aaron-Swartz-on-The-News.txt

10:34 matey; they were in the read for... i dont know, like with twitter i stopped paying attention and thinking of them as a business

10:35 matey; i think shuttleworths business model relies on eventually becoming elon musk

10:35 matey; which would explain canonical

10:35 TR News; Fumik: An Arduino Wall Drawing Robot Jellyfish http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162402#comment-33030

10:35 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: Fumik/Arduino, Picovoice, and More | Tux Machines

10:36 matey; but theyre still here

10:36 matey; they started sending out free installer media like 18 years ago

10:37 matey; or before

10:37 TR News; Stop saying "Big Tech", EFF. You are helping Microsoft lobbyists. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/big-tech-pay-outs-european-isps-would-just-concentrate-their-power see http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/

10:37 TR Bot; Big Tech Pay-Outs to European ISPs Would Just Concentrate Their Power | Electronic Frontier Foundation

10:37 TR Bot; Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights

10:37 matey; and it seemed really innovative, even though aol did it first

10:38 bnchs__; schestowitz-TR2, what hosting do you use

10:39 schestowitz-TR2; catalyst2

10:39 schestowitz-TR2; they're from northern ireland

10:39 schestowitz-TR2; belfast iirc

10:40 TR News; Valdolf Putler bombs civilians. Joseph 'Stalin' Biden starves them. https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/10/bidens-sanctions-afghanistan-could-kill-more-civilians-two-decades-war

10:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/10/bidens-sanctions-afghanistan-could-kill-more-civilians-two-decades-war

10:40 TR Bot; Opinion | Biden's Sanctions on Afghanistan Could Kill More Civilians Than Two Decades of War | Mark Weisbrot

10:42 TR News; Fukushima disaster is not over https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/10/the-fukushima-disaster-ruined-their-lives/

10:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/10/the-fukushima-disaster-ruined-their-lives/

10:42 TR Bot; Fukushima Disaster Ruined Their Lives - CounterPunch.org

10:42 TR News; Proprietary software should be shunned. Look what it did. https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/10/the-great-british-post-office-scandal/

10:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/10/the-great-british-post-office-scandal/

10:42 TR Bot; Great British Post Office Scandal - CounterPunch.org

10:43 Techrights-sec; That's been in the daily links from time to time over the years

10:44 *matey has quit (connection closed)

10:44 Techrights-sec; it comes down to politicians and bureaucrats covering for defective, proprietary

10:44 Techrights-sec; software -- a familiar refrain unfortunately.

10:44 Techrights-sec; software -- a familiar refrain unfortunately.

10:44 Techrights-sec; "Several died before they could be cleared in subsequent legal proceedings"

10:44 Techrights-sec; "The scandal is the most extensive miscarriage of justice in British legal history."

10:45 schestowitz-TR2; same sorts of politians who

10:45 schestowitz-TR2; 1) do not understand tech

10:46 schestowitz-TR2; 2) do not think they NEED to understand it

10:46 schestowitz-TR2; 3) want to outsource elections to it

10:47 TR News; Work towards reducing the spying, not increasing the connectivity, EFF https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/how-ntia-can-fund-future-proof-open-access-fiber

10:47 TR Bot; How the NTIA Can Fund Future-Proof Open Access Fiber | Electronic Frontier Foundation

10:48 TR News; OK, well... EFF also wrote about privacy yesterday https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/heres-how-ice-illegally-obtained-bulk-financial-records-western-union https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/utah-urge-governor-cox-veto-weak-data-privacy-bill

10:48 TR Bot; Heres How ICE Illegally Obtained Bulk Financial Records from Western Union | Electronic Frontier Foundation

10:48 TR Bot; Utah: Urge Governor Cox to Veto This Weak Data Privacy Bill | Electronic Frontier Foundation

10:48 TR News; "The police issued the warrant to Gulag seeking information" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/federal-court-virginia-holds-geofence-warrant-violates-constitution

10:48 TR Bot; Federal Court in Virginia Holds Geofence Warrant Violates Constitution | Electronic Frontier Foundation

10:49 bnchs__; schestowitz-TR2, i wanna know something

10:49 bnchs__; "Hosted on our fully redundant VMware cloud with Dell Hardware and SSDs"

10:50 schestowitz-TR2; There's no VMware clown

10:50 schestowitz-TR2; VMware clown shut down

10:50 schestowitz-TR2; afaik

10:50 schestowitz-TR2; years ago

10:50 schestowitz-TR2; NHS was affected

10:50 schestowitz-TR2; we needed to migrate them away from it

10:50 schestowitz-TR2; to a British host

10:50 schestowitz-TR2; anyway, that page might be out of data

10:50 schestowitz-TR2; *date

10:51 schestowitz-TR2; their servers are in telehouse london

10:53 bnchs__; this is absolutely dumb prices

10:53 bnchs__; GNU/Linux hosting is more expensive than windows hosting

10:53 TR News; If the US carries on borrowing money (debt, inflation, borrowing based on collaterals that don't exist) at this current page, it'll be 60 trillion dollars in debt in 5 years.

10:53 TR News; "It seems like the price of everything from used cars to ground beef is up these days, and right-wing politicos and pundits are all over President Joe Biden for failing to stop the pain." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/10/republicans-dont-want-talk-about-real-culprit-inflation-corporate-greed

10:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/10/republicans-dont-want-talk-about-real-culprit-inflation-corporate-greed

10:53 TR Bot; Opinion | Republicans Don't Want to Talk About the Real Culprit of Inflation: Corporate Greed | Jim Hightower

10:54 TR News; USA, Inc. is a credit card of a country. Max up.

10:55 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs__: did they change it?

10:55 schestowitz-TR2; I have not checked in ages

10:55 bnchs__; linux hosting (bronze) is 300 pounds a year

10:55 schestowitz-TR2; either way, one pound a month from hosting was likely their way to attract customers, then upsell

10:56 schestowitz-TR2; for my site I now pat about 400 a year

10:56 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs__: let me check

10:56 bnchs__; oh wait it's premium hosting

10:56 schestowitz-TR2; no, see megadeal

10:57 schestowitz; https://www.catalyst2.com/hosting/web-hosting/

10:57 TR Bot; Hosting Services UK - From 11.99 per Year | catalyst2

10:57 schestowitz; "

10:57 schestowitz; 11.99

10:57 schestowitz; 1

10:57 schestowitz; 500MB

10:57 bnchs__; oh of course

10:57 schestowitz; 5GB

10:57 schestowitz; 1

10:57 schestowitz; "

10:57 bnchs__; this website is too confusing

10:57 schestowitz-TR2; maybe you did not click webhosting

10:57 schestowitz-TR2; this inclues one email account

11 AM, March 11

11:00 TR News; OILigarchs of oil oligarchs have no sense of shame. It is becoming like a price-fixing cartel that should be smashed to piece and those ringleaders (in the cartels) prosecuted, arrested. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/10/progressives-denounce-big-oil-shamelessly-price-gouging-amid-ukraine-war

11:00 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/10/progressives-denounce-big-oil-shamelessly-price-gouging-amid-ukraine-war

11:00 TR Bot; Progressives Denounce Big Oil for 'Shamelessly' Price-Gouging Amid Ukraine War

11:05 TR News; Ukraine being bombed, but UEFA acting more like a copyright cartel or a bunch of pirates https://torrentfreak.com/eufa-wants-ukraine-to-increase-anti-piracy-protection-after-the-war-220310/

11:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/eufa-wants-ukraine-to-increase-anti-piracy-protection-after-the-war-220310/

11:05 TR Bot; Wants Ukraine to Increase Anti-Piracy Protection, After The War * TorrentFreak

11:06 TR News; Yes, copyright cartel is mostly lying. Truth doesn't matter to cartels. https://torrentfreak.com/ace-says-it-shut-down-two-pirate-sites-but-thats-not-the-full-story-220310/

11:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/ace-says-it-shut-down-two-pirate-sites-but-thats-not-the-full-story-220310/

11:06 TR Bot; Says It 'Shut Down' Two Pirate Sites But That's Not Quite The Full Story * TorrentFreak

11:08 TR News; Speaking of cartels... https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/10/comcasts-and-charters-broadband-monopoly-continues-to-grow/

11:08 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/10/comcasts-and-charters-broadband-monopoly-continues-to-grow/

11:08 TR Bot; And Charters Broadband Monopoly Continues To Grow | Techdirt

11:10 TR News; SLAPP https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/10/appeals-court-smacks-down-unconstitutional-injunction-obtained-by-a-lawyer-to-silence-someone-who-left-a-negative-review/

11:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/10/appeals-court-smacks-down-unconstitutional-injunction-obtained-by-a-lawyer-to-silence-someone-who-left-a-negative-review/

11:10 TR Bot; Court Smacks Down Unconstitutional Injunction Obtained By A Lawyer To Silence Someone Who Left A Negative Review | Techdirt

11:11 TR News; Oil cartels https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/10/dems-introduce-windfall-tax-big-oil-so-companies-pay-price-when-they-price-gouge

11:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/10/dems-introduce-windfall-tax-big-oil-so-companies-pay-price-when-they-price-gouge

11:11 TR Bot; Dems Introduce Windfall Tax on Big Oil So Companies 'Pay a Price When They Price Gouge'

11:13 TR News; Clownflare being in the loop in the first place is politicising the Internet https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/10/cloudflare-says-shutting-down-in-russia-would-give-putin-what-he-wants/

11:13 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/10/cloudflare-says-shutting-down-in-russia-would-give-putin-what-he-wants/

11:13 TR Bot; Says Shutting Down In Russia Would Give Putin What He Wants | Techdirt

11:14 TR News; The people who plundered the United States are drunk on greed, take it up another notch https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/10/us-corporations-boost-profits-crushing-price-hikes-blamed-inflation

11:14 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/10/us-corporations-boost-profits-crushing-price-hikes-blamed-inflation

11:14 TR Bot; US Corporations Boost Profits With Crushing Price Hikes Blamed on Inflation

11:15 TR News; "Qualified immunity has been heavily criticized for what it allows law enforcement officers to get away with" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/10/first-amendment-group-tells-appeals-court-university-officials-shouldnt-have-access-to-qualified-immunity/

11:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/10/first-amendment-group-tells-appeals-court-university-officials-shouldnt-have-access-to-qualified-immunity/

11:15 TR Bot; Amendment Group Tells Appeals Court University Officials Shouldnt Have Access To Qualified Immunity | Techdirt

11:18 TR News; Privacy protects you when you are innocent. Lack of privacy ruins your life even when when you are innocent. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/10/how-tracking-someones-movements-can-make-them-look-guilty-even-when-theyre-not/

11:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/10/how-tracking-someones-movements-can-make-them-look-guilty-even-when-theyre-not/

11:18 TR Bot; Tracking Someones Movements Can Make Them Look Guilty, Even When Theyre Not | Techdirt

11:20 TR News; Life imitates art, US imitates Vladimir Putler https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/10/critics-warn-florida-gop-bill-designed-criminalize-voting-process

11:20 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/10/critics-warn-florida-gop-bill-designed-criminalize-voting-process

11:20 TR Bot; Critics Warn Florida GOP Bill Designed to 'Criminalize' the Voting Process

11:20 TR News; The bestest democracy in the bestest world https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/10/texas-mail-ballot-rejection-rate-skyrockets-under-gop-voter-suppression-law

11:20 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/10/texas-mail-ballot-rejection-rate-skyrockets-under-gop-voter-suppression-law

11:20 TR Bot; Texas Mail-In Ballot Rejection Rate Skyrockets Under GOP Voter Suppression Law

11:21 TR News; What "SHOP SAFE" really us https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/10/academics-civil-society-internet-companies-all-explain-just-how-ridiculously-dangerous-shop-safe-is/

11:21 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/10/academics-civil-society-internet-companies-all-explain-just-how-ridiculously-dangerous-shop-safe-is/

11:21 TR Bot; Civil Society, Internet Companies All Explain Just How Ridiculously Dangerous SHOP SAFE Is | Techdirt

11:22 TR News; "They point out that newspapers are a key part of our democracy, that by exposing wrong-doing to the people, they force the wrong-doers to stop. This seems to be true, but the curious thing is that Im never involved." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-08-26-Aaron-Swartz-on-The-News.txt

11:23 TR News; "but you notice how it never involves me? It seems like the whole thing would work just as well even if nobody ever read the Times or watched the cable chat shows. Its a closed system." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-08-26-Aaron-Swartz-on-The-News.txt

11:24 TR News; "Most peoples major life changes dont come from reading an article in the newspaper; they come from reading longer-form essays or thoughtful books, which are much more convincing and detailed." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-08-26-Aaron-Swartz-on-The-News.txt

11:25 TR News; "But finally, Id like to argue that following the news isnt just a waste of time, its actively unhealthy. Edward Tufte notes that when he used to read the New York Times in the morning, it scrambled his brain with so many different topics that he couldnt get any real intellectual work done the rest of the day." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-08-26-Aaron-Swartz-on-The-News.txt

11:29 TR News; "www2 or any numbered www has not posed any potential harm when used as a pointer to a website or subdomain. Just like www, it simply indicates that what you are accessing is a website." https://linuxhint.com/www2-guide/

11:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxhint.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxhint.com/www2-guide/

11:29 TR Bot; What is www2?

11:32 TR News; Microsoft moving in to attack Linux again http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162417#comment-33031

11:32 TR Bot; Games: Mostly Steam Deck Fluff | Tux Machines

11:33 TR News; Microsoft Windows rapidly being made obsolete. Only Microsoft bribes, moles and corruption keep some momentum in tact. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/proton-experimental-fixes-apex-legends-xbox-login-and-more-for-linux-and-steam-deck/

11:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/proton-experimental-fixes-apex-legends-xbox-login-and-more-for-linux-and-steam-deck/

11:33 TR Bot; Experimental fixes Apex Legends, Xbox login and more for Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux

11:36 TR News; If Microsoft loves Linux, it would PRELOAD it on PCs and/or improve WINE, not infiltrate the projects (Linux, Mesa etc.) to promote proprietary garbage like DirectX

11:37 TR News; DietPi Released a New Version 8.2 https://dietpi.com/docs/releases/v8_2/

11:37 Alternative link; Cloudflare: dietpi.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://dietpi.com/docs/releases/v8_2/

11:37 TR Bot; March 2022 - DietPi.com Docs

11:38 TR News; mintBackup A Simple Backup and Restore Tool for Linux Mint Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162428

11:38 TR Bot; mintBackup A Simple Backup and Restore Tool for Linux Mint | Tux Machines

11:39 TR News; Misinformation/Disinformation from Trump https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/11/trumps-crooked-census-deliberately-missed-19-million-americans/

11:39 TR Bot; Trumps crooked Census deliberately missed 19 million Americans. BaronHK's Rants

11:45 TR News; More outsourcing of data to the NSA https://www.hpcwire.com/2022/03/07/nvidia-acquires-software-defined-storage-provider-excelero/

11:45 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hpcwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hpcwire.com/2022/03/07/nvidia-acquires-software-defined-storage-provider-excelero/

11:45 TR Bot; Nvidia Acquires Software-Defined Storage Provider Excelero

11:46 TR News; Important cautionary take about outsourcing https://blocksandfiles.com/2022/03/07/storage-suppliers-begin-pull-out-from-russia/

11:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: blocksandfiles.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blocksandfiles.com/2022/03/07/storage-suppliers-begin-pull-out-from-russia/

11:46 TR Bot; Storage suppliers start to pull out from Russia Blocks and Files

11:48 TR News; Seems like a theoretic, not a practical, problem https://blocksandfiles.com/2022/03/10/infinifs-solves-the-100-billion-file-metadata-problem/

11:48 Alternative link; Cloudflare: blocksandfiles.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blocksandfiles.com/2022/03/10/infinifs-solves-the-100-billion-file-metadata-problem/

11:48 TR Bot; InfiniFS: Scientists claim to have solved the 100-billion-file problem Blocks and Files

11:57 TR News; WWW as bloated garbage nobody can implement support for anymore. Just clone. https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/html-meter-segment-boundaries.html

11:57 TR Bot; The HTML <meter> element and its (undefined) segment boundaries

noon, March 11

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12:01 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162429

12:01 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

12:04 TR News; How I run my blog on a Raspberry Pi Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162430

12:04 TR Bot; How I run my blog on a Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines

12:05 TR News; BSD: FreeBSD and OpenBSD Latest Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162431

12:05 TR Bot; BSD: FreeBSD and OpenBSD Latest | Tux Machines

12:06 TR News; Red Hat: let's just outsource to Microsoft proprietary software again https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/11/easier-way-generate-pdfs-html-templates

12:06 TR Bot; An easier way to generate PDFs from HTML templates | Red Hat Developer

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12:18 TR News; HTML and Web/cURL Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162432

12:18 TR Bot; HTML and Web/cURL | Tux Machines

12:26 TR News; Proprietary Traps/Risk/Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162433

12:26 TR Bot; Proprietary Traps/Risk/Software Leftovers | Tux Machines

12:32 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162434

12:32 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines

12:35 TR News; Links 11/3/2022: SecureDrop 2.2.1 and DietPi 8.2 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/11/dietpi-v8-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/11/dietpi-v8-2/

12:35 TR Bot; Links 11/3/2022: SecureDrop 2.2.1 and DietPi 8.2 | Techrights

12:35 TR News;

12:36 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162435

12:36 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

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13:12 XRevan86; Lukashenko said that Ukraine was planning to attack Belarus'

13:13 XRevan86; I'm trying to think of a comment on that, but it might be too much for me.

13:14 XRevan86; Also prosecution wants to declare Meta as an extremist organisation.

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13:26 schestowitz-TR2; FB?

13:26 schestowitz-TR2; pot, kettle, black?

13:28 bnchs__; fb should be banned from doing international business

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2 PM, March 11

14:12 XRevan86; bnchs__: One would probably agree what they're doing is not extremism.

14:17 kingoffrance; mjg59_, the state was "the people" A distinction was taken at the bar betweet a state and the people of the state. It is a distioncion I am not capable of comprehending. https://www.loc.gov/item/usrep003054/ ironically, that was a last gasp of perestroika was the "insurrection" "state of the whole people" was supposedly trying to revive that. wheels witin wheels :D in practice, both the old "republic" model and that were essent

14:17 kingoffrance; ially replaced with corporations

14:17 Alternative link; Cloudflare: loc.gov | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.loc.gov/item/usrep003054/

14:17 TR Bot; U.S. Reports: Penhallow v. Doane's Administrators, 3 U.S. (3 Dall.) 54 (1795). | Library of Congress

14:17 kingoffrance; that is just to say...1795 the lawyers were already confusing the terminology

14:17 kingoffrance; add 230 years, and its even more of a cluster@#$!

14:19 kingoffrance; or: i am the state i am the revolution (napoleon) we are the revolution. we are the state. everyone seems to have their own variant

14:21 kingoffrance; that is on page 93

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14:43 TR News; The Mind Works Better With All Social Control Media Turned Off | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/11/a-week-without-social-control-media/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/11/a-week-without-social-control-media/

14:43 TR Bot; The Mind Works Better With All Social Control Media Turned Off | Techrights

14:47 TR News; FFS, quit promoting Microsoft proprietary software to GNU/Linux users. Yet WORSE, they tell GNU/Linux users to give Microsoft (and NSA) ROOT access! https://idroot.us/how-to-install-vs-code-server-almalinux-8/

14:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: idroot.us | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://idroot.us/how-to-install-vs-code-server-almalinux-8/

14:47 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://idroot.us/how-to-install-vs-code-server-almalinux-8/ )

14:48 TR News; Or teaching people to use Microsoft proprietary sofwtare (and an ATTACK on Git) instead of Git, the real thing https://tecadmin.net/running-github-actions-in-another-directory/

14:48 Alternative link; Cloudflare: tecadmin.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tecadmin.net/running-github-actions-in-another-directory/

14:48 TR Bot; Running Github Actions in Another Directory TecAdmin

14:48 TR News; The pandemic has given birth to many sellouts, defectors and corporate shills on the WWW

14:50 SomeH4x0r; use https://github.com/lwthiker/curl-impersonate (Firefox one) for Clownflare

14:50 TR Bot; - lwthiker/curl-impersonate: curl-impersonate: A special compilation of curl that makes it impersonate Chrome & Firefox

14:51 TR News; Gardiner Bryant is no longer "The Linux Gamer" (channel got rebranded), he's just a Valve SHILL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoLbdx_TyKs see http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/influencers-ruin-the-www/

14:51 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HoLbdx_TyKs

14:51 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Is Valve winning the Revenue Split fight that Epic started? - Invidious

14:51 TR Bot; Influencers Gaming the Web of Videos (GulagTube) | Techrights

14:52 TR News; Channel "Linux For Everyone": "So I installed Windows 10 on it." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=greMmdW9Yr8 see http://techrights.org/2022/02/15/youtube-spam-rewarding-junk/

14:52 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=greMmdW9Yr8

14:52 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Windows 10 on Steam Deck - Invidious

14:52 TR Bot; YouTube is Becoming Mostly SPAM | Techrights

14:53 TR News; Marketing brochure (webspam) disguised as 'article' https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-keyboards,6024.html see http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/news-as-spam/

14:53 TR Bot; Best Gaming Keyboards for 2022: Mechanical, TKL and More | Tom's Hardware

14:53 TR Bot; The Different Types of Spammy Articles and Reviews Which Have Killed Professional Journalism (Nowadays Mostly SPAM) | Techrights

14:54 TR News; "FOSSlife" linking to webspam which is not Linux, not FOSS, not even a legit article. What is this??? https://www.fosslife.org/16-great-gaming-keyboards

14:54 TR Bot; 16 Great Gaming Keyboards

14:55 bnchs__; gaming keyboard

14:55 bnchs__; whats the DIFFERENCE

14:55 SomeH4x0r; stupid highlighting, probably

14:56 SomeH4x0r; or backlighting, can't remember the word

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; the branding

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; women's keyboard!

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; they make them in PINK!

14:56 bnchs__; linux for everyone: installs windows on steam deck

14:56 SomeH4x0r; afk for now

14:56 bnchs__; linux is BAD we need windows on steam deck

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; ask "influencers"

14:56 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22030740

14:56 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/89jo3gfriul81.jpg created on 2022-03-07 12:21:45.066605

14:57 MinceR; 11 155543 < bnchs__> whats the DIFFERENCE

14:57 MinceR; NKRO, 1000 Hz polling rate

14:57 MinceR; over here i doubt you can even get a mechanical keyboard that isn't gaming

14:57 XRevan86; Forces from inside Ukraine are attacking a Belarusian village Kopa. Ukraine officials warned about that Russian forces will make such a provokation to justify Belarus' officially entering the war.

14:57 TR News; #Internxt = paid-for webspam. #linuxtoday should not be linking to spam. Heck, unlike #itsfoss it doesn't even get paid to spam. https://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/internxt-is-an-open-source-encrypted-cloud-service-with-native-linux-client/

14:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxtoday.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/internxt-is-an-open-source-encrypted-cloud-service-with-native-linux-client/

14:57 TR Bot; Internxt is an Open-Source Encrypted Cloud Service With Native Linux Client | Linux Today

14:58 bnchs__; also you need more than just drive support on windows for steam deck

14:58 bnchs__; windows eats up battery life like a fatass eating a cheeseburger

14:58 TR News; Steamy mind: not pushing Microsoft proprietary crap that demands a Microsoft account... in a "Linux" site https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/getting-minecraft-and-mods-on-steam-deck-is-nice-and-simple

14:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/getting-minecraft-and-mods-on-steam-deck-is-nice-and-simple

14:58 TR Bot; Minecraft and mods on Steam Deck is nice and simple | GamingOnLinux

14:59 TR News; The WWW has rapidly become a paid-for noise machines, pollutes by DRM budget, Pentagon interests, and lenders

14:59 bnchs__; <techrights-news> Steamy mind: not pushing Microsoft proprietary crap that demands a Microsoft account... in a "Linux" site

14:59 bnchs__; there's actually a difference

14:59 bnchs__; the one you're talking about is minecraft bedrock edition which is microsoft's own version of minecraft

14:59 bnchs__; and which demands a xbox account

3 PM, March 11

15:00 bnchs__; the article is talking about minecraft java edition which is cross platform and doesn't demand xbox

15:00 schestowitz-TR2; anyway, it's microsoft

15:00 schestowitz-TR2; seems they buy territory

15:00 schestowitz-TR2; through the likes of LF

15:00 schestowitz-TR2; and then people are shilling the very thing that's attacking us

15:01 schestowitz-TR2; you need only follow the money

15:01 schestowitz-TR2; like LF shilling shithub

15:01 schestowitz-TR2; why?

15:01 schestowitz-TR2; microsoft money

15:01 schestowitz-TR2; and microsoft proxies

15:02 bnchs__; heres a quote from minecraft site

15:02 bnchs__; "In the Bedrock Edition, testing versions of the game are called beta releases. Its important to note that you can only access them on Xbox One, Xbox Series S and X, Windows 10, Windows 11,"

15:02 bnchs__; you can only access beta releases in windows

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15:02 schestowitz-TR2; anyway, a lot of this crap enters "Linux" sites

15:02 schestowitz-TR2; microsoft will tyry to buy companies

15:02 schestowitz-TR2; to impose itself on whatever replaces windows

15:05 TR News; 5 Best Adventure Games for Linux Desktop: Try When You Are Bored Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162436

15:05 TR Bot; 5 Best Adventure Games for Linux Desktop: Try When You Are Bored | Tux Machines

15:11 TR News; The most wonderful discovery: GB Studio Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162437

15:11 TR Bot; The most wonderful discovery: GB Studio | Tux Machines

15:14 TR News; "Mondealy: Day One from developer uglycoal seems pretty quirky and it's also free, although something of a prologue / demo for an upcoming bigger game." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/thoroughly-odd-sounding-free-adventure-mondealy-day-one-arrives-on-linux

15:14 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/thoroughly-odd-sounding-free-adventure-mondealy-day-one-arrives-on-linux

15:14 TR Bot; odd sounding free adventure Mondealy: Day One arrives on Linux | GamingOnLinux

15:15 TR News; "now available as a Flatpak on Flathub making it even easier to install and setup on Linux and Steam Deck." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/heroic-games-launcher-now-on-flathub-even-easier-to-run-epic-games-on-steam-deck/

15:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/heroic-games-launcher-now-on-flathub-even-easier-to-run-epic-games-on-steam-deck/

15:15 TR Bot; Games Launcher now on Flathub, even easier to run Epic Games on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux

15:17 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162438

15:17 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

15:21 TR News; Fedora Community Blog: CPE Weekly Update Week of March 07th 11th https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-of-march-07th-11th/ Community?? Don't kid me, IBM. You kills the community Red Hat once fostered. Now you ARE SUING THE COMMUNITY!!!

15:21 TR Bot; CPE Weekly Update - Week of March 07th - 11th Fedora Community Blog

15:23 TR News; IBM Red Hat citing Gartner as if they're experts https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/it-talent-mistakes-avoid Gartner Group = corrupt liars with glorified brand http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group

15:23 TR Bot; IT leadership: 5 ways you could be wasting your team's talent | The Enterprisers Project

15:23 TR Bot; Gartner Group - Techrights

15:24 TR News; When the target audience of IBM Red Hat isn't engineers but psychopaths https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/boost-emotional-intelligence

15:24 TR Bot; IT leadership: 4 ways to boost your emotional intelligence | The Enterprisers Project

15:24 TR News; Games: Some New Titles and YouTube Shills Doing Valve &#039;Content&#039; Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162439

15:24 TR Bot; Games: Some New Titles and YouTube 'Shills' Doing Valve 'Content' | Tux Machines

15:25 TR News; Maps and GNOME 42 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162440

15:25 TR Bot; Maps and GNOME 42 | Tux Machines

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15:43 TR News; The EPO in Violation of the EPC and Nobody Holds Anyone Accountable for Such Violations | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/11/epc-just-a-piece-of-paper-and-now-paperless/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/11/epc-just-a-piece-of-paper-and-now-paperless/

15:43 TR Bot; The EPO in Violation of the EPC and Nobody Holds Anyone Accountable for Such Violations | Techrights

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15:55 TR News; [Meme] When Corrupt Politicians Run Europes Largest Patent Office | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/11/meme-when-corrupt-politicians-run-europes-largest-patent-office/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/11/meme-when-corrupt-politicians-run-europes-largest-patent-office/

15:55 TR Bot; [Meme] When Corrupt Politicians Run Europes Largest Patent Office | Techrights

15:57 TR News; Gemini space based on Lupa: "We successfully connected recently to 1784 of them." 16 more to 1,800. WOW! gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi

4 PM, March 11

16:01 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162441

16:01 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines

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16:12 TR News; "You can also help us create awareness by sharing on: Hacker News" LOL, no... they're the enemy. Neither hacker nor news. Just corporate noise and shills. https://www.fsf.org/share?u=[some address]

16:12 TR Bot; Free Software Foundation Working together for free software

16:14 bnchs__; client-side anti-cheats should be classified as DRM

16:15 bnchs__; building your games with the assumption that the user has full control over the device is a more realistic approach

16:15 bnchs__; rather than assuming that they won't be able to modify the files

16:18 TR News; Rewind: Software Freedom Explained | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/11/fsf-rewind/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/11/fsf-rewind/

16:18 TR Bot; Rewind: Software Freedom Explained | Techrights

16:19 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs__: worse, they are rootkits

16:19 bnchs__; yes

16:19 schestowitz-TR2; tin swine-e wants that in everything

16:19 schestowitz-TR2; from reports in the media it seems like he is fronting for Microsoft, e.g. in the case against Apple

16:20 bnchs__; yes

16:20 bnchs__; tim swine-e says he won't port fortnite until valve locks down steam deck

16:21 schestowitz; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nnx9lNGIOY0

16:21 TR Bot; DO NOT BUY Steam Deck - VERY disappointing - Invidious

16:21 schestowitz; Valve: QUICK!!! BRIBE MORE INFLUENCERS

16:21 schestowitz; We MUST hide these other videos

16:21 bnchs__; his company is known for buying out games and canceling the port on them

16:22 schestowitz; next to this

16:22 bnchs__; the GNU/linux port*

16:22 schestowitz; in suggestions:

16:22 schestowitz; "Valve gave me a Steam Deck. Here are my thoughts."

16:22 schestowitz; by the "l" games

16:22 schestowitz; gamer

16:22 schestowitz; and Microsoft Linus

16:23 schestowitz; x86 is an issue

16:23 schestowitz; the battery can last one hour

16:23 schestowitz; for heavy games

16:23 bnchs__; that is a problem

16:23 schestowitz; it's a shillfast

16:23 bnchs__; x86 isn't optimized for mobile devices

16:23 schestowitz; yeah

16:23 schestowitz; he pointed it out

16:23 schestowitz; in https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nnx9lNGIOY0

16:24 schestowitz; Valve is spending lots of money buying 'ads'

16:24 schestowitz; from 'influencers'

16:24 schestowitz; and then they come trolling me in IRC ^_^

16:24 bnchs__; yes

16:25 bnchs__; that guy obviously knew techrights

16:25 bnchs__; and tried to cause some pointless arguments

16:25 bnchs__; and AFTER that gulagtube influcener blog entry

16:25 schestowitz; he need battery banks

16:26 schestowitz; I'm just about 'done' with the www, but should explain

16:26 schestowitz; the videos on the web are parly spam

16:26 schestowitz; the high-viewed ones are mostly spam

16:26 schestowitz; like some fashion company shilling the channel

16:26 schestowitz; for some very high-quality videos

16:26 bnchs__; it's only a matter of time

16:26 schestowitz; which turn out to be paid-for ads

16:26 bnchs__; before other shills come to raid this IRC

16:27 schestowitz; so you basically tune in to pervert bill gates ADS

16:27 schestowitz; they do not even tell you

16:27 schestowitz; it's in some ways worse than television

16:27 schestowitz; the textual web isn't much better

16:27 schestowitz; over time a growing % of it is webspam

16:27 schestowitz; like a list of "gaming" ckeyboards

16:27 schestowitz; those are just same old catalogues

16:27 schestowitz; "click here to buy"

16:27 schestowitz; I don't need shit like this

16:27 schestowitz; would rather read a soup of words in gemini

16:28 bnchs__; gaming keyboards are a scam

16:28 schestowitz; gemini has no "influencers"

16:28 bnchs__; there's no difference between a normal keyboard and a "gaming" keyboard

16:28 schestowitz; this is an issue we might as well cover more often

16:28 bnchs__; except the LED eyecandy

16:28 schestowitz; i already called out the patent cartel

16:28 schestowitz; we need to call out the 'linux' sites that sell out too

16:28 schestowitz; they're not even about linux anymore

16:29 schestowitz; they're seo spamfarms

16:29 schestowitz; "gaming" keyboard is like "girls' bicycle"

16:29 schestowitz; they make the same product

16:29 schestowitz; but in pink

16:29 schestowitz; and throw some 'girly' (fashion) baket at it

16:30 schestowitz; and then pay some model ("influencer") to make it seem "fasionable"

16:30 schestowitz; *basket

16:30 schestowitz; in twitter the ads have overrun the site in august 2018

16:30 schestowitz; when they also blocked third party access

16:31 schestowitz; now they throw gov. propaganda on top of it

16:31 schestowitz; first the covid thing, now imperialism

16:31 schestowitz; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28051930

16:31 TR Bot; Facebook emotion experiment sparks criticism - BBC News

16:31 schestowitz; maybe experiment was the wrong term

16:31 schestowitz; it was a "warm-up"

16:31 schestowitz; and we need to seek and promote alternatives

16:32 schestowitz; then keep them robust to the same corruption that doomed the web

16:32 schestowitz; gulagtube is a joke to me

16:32 bnchs__; https://nitter.net/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1493622890536878090#m

16:32 TR Bot; Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic): "It shouldt be like this. Windows users are free to install software from sources of their choosing, and Microsoft doesnt interfere. Apple and Google are alone in making their store monopolies tools of national censorship and protectionism. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-15/sea-s-16-billion-wipeout-portends-trouble-beyond-india-shutout" | nitter

16:32 schestowitz; if you just open the site now it does not show what you subscribe to

16:32 schestowitz; it throws clickbair at you

16:32 schestowitz; curated for some weird agenda

16:32 schestowitz; sex, sport, celebs, politics

16:32 schestowitz; they try to shape your mind

16:33 psydroid2; Windows users are free to choose their brand of malware, as long as it's Windows malware

16:33 schestowitz; they tell you what you want, instead of YOU (as in YOUtube) telling THEM what you want

16:33 bnchs__; there's also a tweet

16:33 bnchs__; where he says

16:33 schestowitz; bnchs__: he's fronting for Microsoft

16:33 bnchs__; https://nitter.net/timsweeneyepic/status/964284402741149698

16:33 TR Bot; Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic): "Installing Linux is sort of the equivalent of moving to Canada when one doesnt like US political trends. Nope, weve got to fight for the freedoms we have today, where we have them today." | nitter

16:33 schestowitz; there have been articles about that

16:33 schestowitz; and then bans Linux users

16:33 schestowitz; for Microsof sites to use for negative press on "Linux" "pirates"

16:34 bnchs__; " weve got to fight for the freedoms we have today, where we have them today"

16:34 schestowitz; anc "cheaters"

16:34 bnchs__; he fights for freedoms on a platform thats not designed for freedom

16:34 bnchs__; obviously a pointless move

16:34 bnchs__; tim swine-e mentality

16:34 schestowitz; windows as freedom LOL

16:35 bnchs__; heres a good response

16:35 bnchs__; "Tim is the type of person who complains about how shitty their partner is all day but will never break up or ever do anything about it."

16:35 schestowitz-TR2; he is fronting for pervert bill

16:36 bnchs__; imagine tim swine-e on the titanic

16:36 bnchs__; "oh no the boat is sinking"

16:36 bnchs__; "lets not go on the lifeboats"

16:36 bnchs__; "we're gonna fight on the sinking boat"

16:36 schestowitz; "Fortunately, Microsoft is also involved, so I hope ACT won't be able to file amicus curiae briefs in support of Apple against Epic"

16:36 schestowitz; http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/05/did-epic-games-ceo-tim-sweeney-get.html

16:36 TR Bot; FOSS Patents: Did Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney get trolled from Apple Park during App Store antitrust trial? Suspicious Twitter activity detected.

16:36 schestowitz; ACT is a Microsoft front group

16:36 schestowitz; and the author was also bribed by Microsoft

16:37 bnchs__; yes

16:37 bnchs__; apple is bad

16:37 bnchs__; but being biased towards microsoft is good

16:39 psydroid2; Apple software isn't entrenched like Windows software is

16:39 bnchs__; tim swine-e is choosing to be anti-gnu/linux at this point

16:40 bnchs__; perhaps he was bribed to be like that

16:40 psydroid2; you can just wipe macOS and install GNU/Linux and not miss a thing

16:40 psydroid2; with Windows software they always invent some reason why it is indispensable

16:46 TR News; Zo Kooyman: Its Important to Listen to Community Members About What They Think the FSF Should Focus on | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/11/zoe-kooyman-libreplanet-speech/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/11/zoe-kooyman-libreplanet-speech/

16:46 TR Bot; Zo Kooyman: Its Important to Listen to Community Members About What They Think the FSF Should Focus on | Techrights

16:47 TR News; That's some expensive gift right there, Michael... https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.18-Early-Features

16:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.18-Early-Features

16:47 TR Bot; 5.18 To Bring New Intel Drivers, Optimization For AMD EPYC, C11 & Much More - Phoronix

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16:48 TR News; Linux Torvalds: "there are similar other turds if a.out goes away, ie on alpha it's OSF4_COMPAT, and it enables support for a couple of legacy OSF/1 system calls. I think that was also discussed in the (old) a.out deprecation thread back in 2019.." https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/3/10/1395

16:48 TR Bot; LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [PATCH] x86: Remove a.out support

16:48 Alternative link; Cloudflare: lkml.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/3/10/1395

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16:51 TR News; FreeBSD 13.1-BETA1 Now Available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162442

16:51 TR Bot; FreeBSD 13.1-BETA1 Now Available | Tux Machines

16:53 schestowitz; psydroid2: michael has assembled the DC

16:53 schestowitz; estimated number of CPUs?

16:53 schestowitz; your call

16:53 schestowitz; looks like maybe 1000 to me

16:53 schestowitz; depending on density

16:53 psydroid2; lol

16:53 schestowitz; mining "coins"?

16:54 psydroid2; data centre in a shed or basement

16:54 schestowitz-TR2; iirc, he built one outdoors too

16:54 schestowitz-TR2; some second facility

16:54 schestowitz-TR2; too many gifts

16:54 psydroid2; so he's more like "the Linux lamer"

16:54 schestowitz-TR2; but I cannot find the photos

16:54 schestowitz-TR2; there's no "the linux gamer"

16:54 schestowitz-TR2; Techrights-sec pointed out to me

16:54 schestowitz-TR2; what I had seen this week

16:55 schestowitz-TR2; the channel was renamed

16:55 psydroid2; TLG

16:55 schestowitz-TR2; and rebranded

16:55 schestowitz-TR2; it's not Linux anymore

16:55 schestowitz-TR2; we've followed the channel for years

16:55 schestowitz-TR2; muktware = freedom ware

16:55 psydroid2; Bryant Gardiner TLG -> TWG -> TWS

16:55 schestowitz-TR2; themurk = the freedom

16:55 schestowitz-TR2; then linux veda

16:55 schestowitz-TR2; not freedoim

16:55 schestowitz-TR2; now "TFIR"

16:55 schestowitz-TR2; pure spam

16:55 schestowitz-TR2; same site

16:55 schestowitz-TR2; different brands from spamnil

16:55 psydroid2; "the linux gamer" -> "the windows gamer" -> "the windows shill"

16:56 schestowitz-TR2; he killed linux.com

16:56 schestowitz-TR2; now he's killing the renamed muktware

16:56 psydroid2; just change one letter at a time

16:56 psydroid2; and no one will notice

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16:56 schestowitz-TR2; [13:35] <Techrights-sec> "The Linux Gamer" any more. His channel is "Gardiner Bryant" instead now.

16:56 schestowitz-TR2; [13:36] <schestowitz-TR2> I noticed the same but did not say it in the video

16:56 schestowitz-TR2; [13:36] <schestowitz-TR2> the banner says something like something something linux something...

16:56 schestowitz-TR2; [13:36] <schestowitz-TR2> the old title is now just some cryptic acronym

16:56 schestowitz-TR2; [13:52] <Techrights-sec> He peddles M$ a lot lately.

16:56 schestowitz-TR2; [13:52] <Techrights-sec> and talks up the LF. :(

16:56 schestowitz-TR2; [13:52] <Techrights-sec> and OIN :( :(

16:57 schestowitz-TR2; from #boycottnovell

16:58 psydroid2; build a reputation in the free software world and then turn around and move into "open source software"

16:58 psydroid2; to upsell closed source software

16:58 psydroid2; the modern modus operandi

16:58 schestowitz-TR2; [14:39] <schestowitz-TR2> he is one of the 4 in the steam "influencer" club

16:58 schestowitz-TR2; [14:39] <schestowitz-TR2> he already gotr banned once

16:58 schestowitz-TR2; [14:39] <schestowitz-TR2> for shilling crap

16:58 schestowitz-TR2; [14:39] <schestowitz-TR2> he also campaigns to remove RMS

16:58 schestowitz-TR2; [14:39] <schestowitz-TR2> next they will corrupt robertson

16:59 TR News; Kali Linux on bare-metal gets snapshotting functionality Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162443

16:59 TR Bot; Kali Linux on bare-metal gets snapshotting functionality | Tux Machines

5 PM, March 11

17:00 psydroid2; "journalists"

17:00 schestowitz-TR2; no

17:00 schestowitz-TR2; they don't even use that word

17:01 schestowitz-TR2; but it's "dormitory" shills

17:01 schestowitz-TR2; painting themselves like poor person talking shit to webcam

17:01 schestowitz-TR2; but they're well funded shills

17:01 schestowitz-TR2; and they have masters

17:01 schestowitz-TR2; wait, I want to show you something

17:02 schestowitz-TR2; can't find it

17:03 psydroid2; maybe you'll be able to find it later

17:03 schestowitz-TR2; it's the spamnil price list

17:03 *bnchs (~bnchs@ysmbdnm3xh2vq.irc) has joined #techrights

17:03 schestowitz-TR2; how much for his youtube spam

17:03 schestowitz-TR2; just need to know what to search for

17:04 schestowitz-TR2; maybe it's still in his site

17:05 kingoffrance; ""Installing Linux is sort of the equivalent of moving to Canada when one doesnt like US political trends. Nope, weve got to fight for the freedoms we have today, where we have them today" LOL

17:05 schestowitz; https://www.tfir.io/tfir-editorial-marketing-package/

17:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: tfir.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.tfir.io/tfir-editorial-marketing-package/

17:05 TR Bot; Editorial Marketing Video Service - TFiR: Interviews, News & Analysis by Swapnil Bhartiya %

17:05 schestowitz; that's one

17:05 schestowitz; marketing package

17:05 schestowitz; spamnl has a package for you

17:05 schestowitz; "-editorial-marketing-package"

17:06 schestowitz; show me the packages, spamnil

17:06 schestowitz; he also markets fake/phantom "subscribers

17:06 schestowitz; 20,000 means 20 views :-)

17:06 schestowitz; so he's a cheap salesperson

17:07 schestowitz; "Demo/Tutorials: Demos & tutorials are presented by a spokesperson of the client. We collect all footage and produce the final video."

17:07 kingoffrance; well its funny that "linux" is "the other" ...its only something extremists do

17:07 schestowitz; "

17:07 schestowitz; Lets Talk: Flagship, talk-show style interviews to cover a wide range of topics.

17:07 schestowitz; Newsroom: A short and crisp interview around news announcements

17:07 schestowitz; To The Point: Summary clips from full length videos to focus on key topics.

17:07 schestowitz; "

17:07 schestowitz; "Flagship" :-)

17:07 schestowitz; he has a boat, too

17:07 schestowitz; a yacht

17:07 schestowitz; "To The Point," said the radiologist

17:08 schestowitz; point at the ____

17:08 schestowitz; so you end up with yoiutube littered

17:08 schestowitz; this is what increasingly dominated yoioutube

17:08 schestowitz; spam

17:08 schestowitz; it's an industry of spam

17:08 schestowitz; tweets also

17:08 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2019/04/07/linux-foundation-selling-tweets/

17:08 TR Bot; The Linux Foundation is Selling Tweets, Access, Thank Yous and SPAM Services | Techrights

17:08 schestowitz; paid-for spam

17:09 schestowitz; microsoft praise... for SALE http://techrights.org/2019/04/08/jono-bacon-works-for-microsoft/

17:09 TR Bot; Jono Bacon Works for Microsoft | Techrights

17:09 schestowitz; tweets for a fee

17:09 schestowitz; twtter says it's against the rules

17:09 schestowitz; but it'll never ban @linuxfoundation

17:10 TR News; 5 Linux Alternatives for Windows PowerToys Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162444

17:10 TR Bot; 5 Linux Alternatives for Windows PowerToys | Tux Machines

17:11 TR News; The flailing 'Linux' Foundation is corrupting the Web and paying so-called publishers to write puff pieces: "The Linux Foundation is a sponsor of The New Stack." https://thenewstack.io/the-linux-foundations-open-source-stack-for-ev-charging-infrastructure/

17:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thenewstack.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/the-linux-foundations-open-source-stack-for-ev-charging-infrastructure/

17:11 TR Bot; The Linux Foundations Open Source Stack for EV Charging Infrastructure The New Stack

17:11 TR News; WWW = the world's largest pool of spam, started by a British scientists in Switzerland

17:12 TR News; Linux Foundation killed Linux.com. Next it'll kill Linux. It's still "at it"...

17:13 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22030658

17:13 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/7243g0bglwk81.png created on 2022-03-06 19:54:21.438055

17:15 TR News; KeeWeb is a multiplatform password manager with a full KeePass database support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162445

17:15 TR Bot; KeeWeb is a multiplatform password manager with a full KeePass database support | Tux Machines

17:16 bnchs; keeweb???

17:16 schestowitz; mit/shithub

17:16 schestowitz; I know...

17:16 schestowitz; still

17:16 schestowitz; way to get away from worse things

17:17 schestowitz-TR2; some companies I saw at work outsource their passwords to the NSA

17:17 schestowitz-TR2; like a bunch of tools

17:17 schestowitz-TR2; "don't worry! We're not PUTIN!"

17:17 bnchs; yes i would definitely trust

17:17 bnchs; a web app version of keeweb

17:17 bnchs; to not leak my database password

17:17 schestowitz-TR2; "I do't do anything interesting anyway!!"

17:18 schestowitz-TR2; you could firewall it

17:18 schestowitz-TR2; but better check the source carefully

17:18 schestowitz-TR2; it comes from the NSA

17:18 schestowitz-TR2; ShitHub

17:18 schestowitz-TR2; where the CSO is 15-year NSA veteran

17:18 schestowitz-TR2; they could even forge checksums you see

17:19 TR News; Emulate the MSX home computer with Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162446

17:19 TR Bot; Emulate the MSX home computer with Linux | Tux Machines

17:19 bnchs; so theres

17:19 bnchs; electron version (non-free chromium engine and bloated RAM/CPU usage)

17:19 bnchs; or web app hosteed on the developer's website (possibly backdoored)

17:21 schestowitz-TR2; oh...

17:21 schestowitz-TR2; well..

17:21 schestowitz; yesterday I read gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2021-10-15-react-native-is-cursed.gmi

17:21 schestowitz; interesting

17:21 schestowitz; I did not link to it

17:21 schestowitz; "

17:21 schestowitz; Something about using Node JS to create a native mobile application just feels dirty to me.

17:21 schestowitz; I'll be on a team developing an Android/iOS app using React Native for the next year and I've just started to get my environment set up. That initial step took some time, but once it was done I was poking around and making changes to the starter template to see how it worked. I can say right away that I like the idea of not having to think about separate Android and iOS apps. But something still feels weird? Maybe I'm just cautious about so many

17:21 schestowitz; parts of the app building process being hidden away.

17:21 schestowitz; "

17:22 TR News; My expectations have been exceeded; there are no regrets about leaving social control media and in fact the only regret is not doing that a lot sooner because life becomes a lot more productive (exposure to abuse and misinformation is also significantly lowered) http://techrights.org/2022/03/11/a-week-without-social-control-media/

17:22 TR Bot; The Mind Works Better With All Social Control Media Turned Off | Techrights

17:22 TR News; Violations of the foundational document of the EPO have become so prevalent that one has to gasp and wonder if EPOnia is basically the EUs Kremlin (the dictators do anything they want, even in clear violation of the constitutions, with post hoc justifications and cover-up) http://techrights.org/2022/03/11/epc-just-a-piece-of-paper-and-now-paperless/

17:22 TR Bot; The EPO in Violation of the EPC and Nobody Holds Anyone Accountable for Such Violations | Techrights

17:23 TR News; When the EPO is run by unscientific and arguably anti-scientific officials [1, 2] in the pockets of the patent litigation industry [sic] (or parasitic sector) we should not be too shocked by the sad state of the EPO http://techrights.org/2022/03/11/meme-when-corrupt-politicians-run-europes-largest-patent-office/

17:23 TR Bot; [Meme] When Corrupt Politicians Run Europes Largest Patent Office | Techrights

17:23 TR News; The FSF shared the above video about 18 months ago http://techrights.org/2022/03/11/fsf-rewind/

17:23 TR Bot; Rewind: Software Freedom Explained | Techrights

17:23 TR News; Free Software Foundation (FSF) executive director (ED) Zo Kooyman gave this closing talk almost a couple of years ago http://techrights.org/2022/03/11/zoe-kooyman-libreplanet-speech/

17:23 TR Bot; Zo Kooyman: Its Important to Listen to Community Members About What They Think the FSF Should Focus on | Techrights

17:24 TR News; xkcd: False Dichotomy https://xkcd.com/2592/

17:24 Alternative link; Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2592/

17:24 TR Bot; False Dichotomy

17:25 schestowitz-TR2; https://nitter.eu/WokeGoBroke/status/1502152344150020098#m

17:25 TR Bot; Mr. McLinky (@WokeGoBroke): "Interesting https://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/" | nitter

17:25 schestowitz-TR2; https://nitter.eu/TammaroDee/status/1502224261846556674#m

17:25 TR Bot; Dee Tammaro (@TammaroDee): "I just located this article from 2020. Question is who do we use now?? http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/" | nitter

17:25 schestowitz-TR2; https://nitter.eu/zoobab/status/1502284530241220610#m

17:25 TR Bot; zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "UPC: Breton does not answer on the compatibility of the UPC with EU law, going in circles with what is a "common court". European Commission was supposed to be the "guardian of the treaties", but they ignore legal problems when they want http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/breton-lies-again/ #upc" | nitter

17:26 bnchs; twitter is a mental asylum

17:26 schestowitz-TR2; it wasn't ALWAYS

17:26 schestowitz-TR2; I must say

17:26 schestowitz-TR2; remember you COULD linearly watch peopel YOU followed

17:26 schestowitz-TR2; [09:51] <techrights-news> Boycott Twitter. It's just a propaganda and hate site. https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/10/22971307/twitter-home-timeline-algorithmic-reverse-chronological-feed

17:26 TR Bot; Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed - The Verge

17:26 schestowitz-TR2; this is the latest

17:27 schestowitz-TR2; now Twitter Inc. (Saudi butchers, Bill Gates) and the states decide for YOU what you need to see

17:27 schestowitz-TR2; that's just TV broadcast

17:27 schestowitz-TR2; but worse

17:27 schestowitz-TR2; your national TV is national

17:27 schestowitz-TR2; this is global propaganda

17:27 bnchs; schestowitz-TR2, twitter is actually full of retards who unironically believe stupid things

17:27 schestowitz-TR2; so Butcher Bin Salman can push things into my screen

17:27 schestowitz-TR2; using the oil he extracts from beneath the soil

17:28 bnchs; and maybe feminists who really hate men

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; that too

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; they flourish there

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; because they are immune

17:28 bnchs; and maybe maybe zoophiles and pedophiles

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; twitter does not ban them

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; so they embrace this platform

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; and spread in it

17:29 schestowitz-TR2; making groups and cliques

17:29 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/

17:29 TR Bot; Social Control Media: Where Cancel Culture Thrives | Techrights

17:29 bnchs; they even have pronouns in their bio

17:29 bnchs; and sometimes the pronouns are a bit dumb

17:29 schestowitz; http://hintjens.wikidot.com/blog:114

17:29 TR Bot; Why I've Quit Twitter - Hintjens.com

17:29 schestowitz; bnchs: that's not that

17:30 schestowitz; it's a lot of cliques

17:30 schestowitz; warhawks

17:30 schestowitz; Trumpers

17:30 schestowitz; even people planning to attack the Capitol

17:30 bnchs; yes

17:30 schestowitz; then you have racial minorities

17:30 schestowitz; and in ethiopia

17:30 schestowitz; tigray

17:31 schestowitz; or in rohinga

17:31 bnchs; they actually 'dox' you for having the wrong opinon

17:31 bnchs; in twitter

17:31 bnchs; it's an unsafe platform

17:31 schestowitz; anyway

17:31 schestowitz; like I said earlier

17:31 schestowitz; Twitter was NOT always like that

17:31 bnchs; yes

17:31 schestowitz; with campaigns

17:31 schestowitz; it was about you following some friends

17:31 schestowitz; but that does not sell ads and political agenda

17:31 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/

17:31 TR Bot; Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights

17:40 TR News; "I created accounts for my family, so we can talk using our own hardware, free from surveillance capitalism and garbage. I believe one of the most important things for modern IM clients are push notifications." gemini://avalos.me/gemlog/2021-04-25-xmpp-adventures.gmi

17:41 TR News; "tar is a shell utility for making archives, often called "tarballs", which store several files. tar is a Unix-native file format, and includes information about file ownership and modes. This makes it very useful for moving groups files around on Unix systems." gemini://drewdevault.com/2022/02/17/tar-is-good-actually.gmi

17:42 bnchs; tar is tape archive

17:42 bnchs; so what if you tar to a DVD

17:44 MinceR; tar and feather

17:44 schestowitz-TR2; it is robust

17:45 schestowitz-TR2; because it's linear

17:45 schestowitz-TR2; if one file is corrupt, you might be OK

17:45 schestowitz-TR2; like with tapes

17:45 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22030655

17:45 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/jcizwsx9xvk81.jpg created on 2022-03-06 18:55:07.782653

17:45 schestowitz-TR2; rather than everything failing because of CRC f*up

17:46 schestowitz; MinceR: bless him

17:46 bnchs; i'm working with a proprietary filegroup file format that doesn't store filenames

17:46 bnchs; but CRC32 of the filenames

17:47 TR News; Everything you thought you know about the Internet was wrong https://bitport.hu/kozossegi-internetrendorseget-javasolnak-oroszorszag-ellen-egyes-szakertok see http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/breaking-internet/

17:47 TR Bot; Kzssgi internetrendrsget javasolnak Oroszorszg ellen egyes szakrtk - Bitport Informatika az zlet nyelvn

17:47 TR Bot; The Internet is Breaking and We Need Contingencies | Techrights

17:47 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs: we might soon make a tar archive of the whole of techrights

17:48 schestowitz-TR2; gmi files, no images

17:48 bnchs; yes

17:48 schestowitz-TR2; for download for offline use

17:48 bnchs; and store it in a dvd

17:49 TR News; Joseph 'Stalin' Biden, do not PURGE the Internet https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-10/biden-needs-to-protect-russian-internet-access-groups-warn http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/breaking-internet/

17:49 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?

17:49 schestowitz-TR2; when he was VP

17:49 schestowitz-TR2; with Obama

17:49 schestowitz-TR2; many articles appeared about the US "Internet killswitch"

17:50 psydroid2; 20,000 USD or 20,000 INR?

17:50 psydroid2; that makes quite a difference :D

17:51 TR News; The OSI can do elections, at long last? https://opensource.org/how-members-will-vote-for-osi-directors see http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/osi-privacy-issues/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Open_Source_Initiative

17:51 TR Bot; How members will vote for OSI directors | Open Source Initiative | Guaranteeing the 'our' in source...

17:51 TR Bot; The OSIs Defunct Elections (Privacy Breach), Conflict of Interest (Nicholson), and Other Lingering Problems | Techrights

17:51 TR Bot; Open Source Initiative - Techrights

17:51 bnchs; schestowitz-TR2, why not the images aswell

17:51 bnchs; maybe the videos

17:51 TR News; #HowTo install XeroLinux 2022.03.06 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AWU0SjeaxBY

17:51 TR Bot; How to install XeroLinux 2022.03.06 - Invidious

17:52 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs: too large

17:52 schestowitz-TR2; about 200gb

17:52 schestowitz-TR2; compressed text can be maybe 200mb

17:52 schestowitz-TR2; I've not checked

17:52 schestowitz-TR2; iirc, it's 2gb when expanded

17:52 schestowitz-TR2; gmi (no markup)

17:52 bnchs; lol

17:53 bnchs; wait really?

17:53 bnchs; the majority of the space must be videos

17:53 bnchs; what about the images

17:53 schestowitz; ~/gemini $ du -sh

17:53 schestowitz; 1.6G .

17:54 schestowitz; ~/gemini $ find | wc -l

17:54 schestowitz; 85890

17:54 bnchs; what about the images

17:54 schestowitz-TR2; a LOT more

17:54 schestowitz-TR2; and PDFs etc

17:56 TR News; Zorin OS 16.1 Released with Better Hardware Compatibility http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162392#comment-33033

17:56 TR Bot; Zorin OS 16.1 is Here, Creators to Donate All Profits from Zorin OS Pro to Aid Ukraine | Tux Machines

17:57 TR News; Chris Titus Tech [sic]: "Live - Optimizing Windows for Gaming"... back to his Microsoft shilling I see... :/ http://techrights.org/2022/02/15/youtube-spam-rewarding-junk/

17:57 TR Bot; YouTube is Becoming Mostly SPAM | Techrights

6 PM, March 11

18:04 bnchs; optimizing windows for gaming

18:04 bnchs; i thought it was already optimized

18:06 psydroid2; deoptimised

18:08 psydroid2; windows should be like reactos, but they put all kinds of junk it

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18:51 activelow; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-legalizes-bitcoin-btc-cryptocurrencies-033215045.html

18:51 TR Bot; Ukraine Legalizes Bitcoin (BTC) and Cryptocurrencies

18:52 SomeH4x0r; :(

18:52 activelow; in parallel begging for helmets and military equipment to "defend Ukraine", which was whose cash pocket?

18:52 activelow; few days later boots on the ground and explosions around every corner

18:52 activelow; BTC was one of the missing pieces

7 PM, March 11

19:14 activelow; zapping last weekend, i noticed bitcoin trading was advertised in crowded german soccer stadiums, which re-opened after the corona lock-down

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19:26 MinceR; (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/hNU2aS7

19:26 TR Bot; - Album on Imgur

19:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://imgur.com/t/cats/hNU2aS7

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19:42 bnchs__; hello

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19:49 iphonix; welcome to the struggle

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19:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz, T-Mobile users say their Play Store is working again.

19:50 DaemonFC; According to DownDetector the complaints of Play Store downtime went down 95% last night after 9 PM EST.

19:50 DaemonFC; So whatever T-Mobile did happened then.

19:50 DaemonFC; They still deny they ever had a problem.

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19:52 iphonix; their back

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19:53 iphonix; they didnt have a problem their clients did

19:53 DaemonFC; good point

19:53 bnchs___; hello did i joinflood the channel

19:53 iphonix; they still get payed the same

19:53 iphonix; paid

19:54 bnchs___; my ISP is kinda raping my connection

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19:57 iphonix; it sucks to be bnchs__

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19:58 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22030523

19:58 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/ob5c0oujcwk81.jpg created on 2022-03-05 14:56:15.184465

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8 PM, March 11

20:00 DaemonFC; We got our state tax return.

20:00 DaemonFC; The bank says "STATE OF ILL".

20:00 DaemonFC; :)

20:00 DaemonFC; They hate this shitheap as much as I do, I guess.

20:00 DaemonFC; Or they ran out of letters.

20:00 DaemonFC; One or the other.

20:01 MinceR; :>

20:01 iphonix; does russia also produces ink?

20:01 MinceR; maybe they have a DEPARTMENT OF PLANN

20:01 DaemonFC; They do. It's a really ILL PLANN.

20:02 DaemonFC; 35% youth unemployment.

20:02 DaemonFC; Economic output cut 5% every year that PRICKSTER is in office with his ILL PLANNing.

20:02 iphonix; 30% are self employed

20:02 MinceR; https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUqOjHpUUAAxqSm?format=jpg&name=orig

20:03 DaemonFC; <iphonix> 30% are self employed

20:03 DaemonFC; 14 year old in Chicago filing their tax return.

20:03 DaemonFC; MISC INCOME: DRUGS AND PIMPING. CARJACKINGS.

20:04 MinceR; :)

20:04 DaemonFC; BUSINESS EXPENSES: MACHINE GUN

20:04 DaemonFC; BAIL

20:04 DaemonFC; RETIREMENT PLAN CONTRIBUTIONS: COMCAST SUPPORT AT STATE PENITENTIARY

20:04 MinceR; is that an ASSAULT RIFLE, SUBMACHINE GUN, PERSONAL DEFENSE WEAPON, LIGHT MACHINEGUN, CREW-SERVED AUTOMATIC WEAPON or something else?

20:05 DaemonFC; MinceR, Whichever classification qualifies to max the tax deduction for the year in question.

20:05 MinceR; :>

20:06 iphonix; you still have to choose or no return

20:06 MinceR; could be a BATTLE RIFLE also

20:06 MinceR; or ASSAULT CARBINE

20:06 DaemonFC; I love how the IRS never charges them with tax evasion when they were convicted of selling drugs and stolen cars in state court.

20:06 DaemonFC; You still owe taxes on the proceeds of criminal activities.

20:07 DaemonFC; The IRS says you pay taxes on stolen property unless you return it to the rightful owner within the same tax year.

20:07 DaemonFC; Says that in the 1040 instructions.

20:07 iphonix; wouldnt that make them legal?

20:07 DaemonFC; No, it's still a crime.

20:07 DaemonFC; But it's another crime (federal) not to pay taxes on the crime.

20:07 iphonix; if you pay the tax becomes legal

20:07 DaemonFC; No, it does not become legal.

20:08 DaemonFC; But you don't actually have to tell them where you got the money.

20:08 DaemonFC; You can put it all down as self-employment income and pay taxes on it that way.

20:08 iphonix; the irs cant make a profit on ilegal activities with out being an acomplice

20:09 DaemonFC; Since they can charge you with federal tax evasion AND failure to file a return for each year you declare no income, and they can go back six years, you potentially face 12 felonies when they catch you, on top of whatever the underlying crime was that made you the income.

20:09 DaemonFC; And the state can charge tax evasion of their own as well. :)

20:09 iphonix; that makes no senxe

20:09 iphonix; sense

20:10 DaemonFC; It's the government.

20:10 DaemonFC; They got Capone for tax evasion.

20:10 DaemonFC; He got 11 years iirc.

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20:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 43.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.06

20:10 DaemonFC; They never charged him with prohibition offenses, murder, conspiracy to commit murder, racketeering, or anything else.

20:10 DaemonFC; Just tax fraud.

20:10 iphonix; because he didnt have the recipt from the money he deposited?

20:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 43.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.06

20:10 DaemonFC; No, they got his accountant to testify against him.

20:11 DaemonFC; He kept a ledger of money coming in and going out, and it was encoded in such a way they couldn't prove anything except that he made money and paid no tax on it.

20:12 iphonix; we should have paid the taxes and could walk

20:12 DaemonFC; Usually, the IRS has to prove the case some other way.

20:12 DaemonFC; You have financial transactions with a bank without declaring any income (including apps such as PayPal or Venmo).

20:13 iphonix; couldnt he claim that it want really money but beans?

20:13 DaemonFC; You have substantial assets that cannot be explained without having an income, or can only be explained if you have more money than you declared.

20:13 TR News; Desktop Cube GNOME Extension Now Supports Background Panoramas Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162447

20:13 TR Bot; Desktop Cube GNOME Extension Now Supports Background Panoramas | Tux Machines

20:14 DaemonFC; Well, if you declare you made $40,000 last year and somehow there's two new Mercedes registered in your name and a $400,000 house, and you have money in the bank....

20:14 DaemonFC; The IRS is going to call bullshit eventually.

20:15 iphonix; also that guy from the dicaprio movie

20:15 DaemonFC; That's why they want to get rid of cash.

20:15 iphonix; that sold fake startups

20:15 DaemonFC; If you don't use the banking system, it's harder for automated processes to spy on you.

20:15 iphonix; before startup was a thing

20:15 DaemonFC; The Treasury can look into any US bank account it wants to.

20:16 DaemonFC; If they see suspicious patterns, they flag you for an investigation.

20:17 iphonix; he put the money on Switzerland and still the feds go to it

20:18 iphonix; he also had a yatch

20:18 MinceR; 11 210834 < iphonix> the irs cant make a profit on ilegal activities with out being an acomplice

20:18 MinceR; that's an interesting argument

20:18 MinceR; has anyone used it in court yet?

20:20 iphonix; isnt that like being a recptor of stolen goods

20:20 TR News; Linux Virtual Consoles Explained: What They Are and #HowTo Access Them Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162448

20:20 TR Bot; Linux Virtual Consoles Explained: What They Are and How to Access Them | Tux Machines

20:20 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162449

20:20 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

20:20 TR News; Stable Kernels: 5.16.14, 5.15.28, 5.10.105, 5.4.184, 4.19.234, 4.14.271, and 4.9.306 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162450

20:20 TR Bot; Stable Kernels: 5.16.14, 5.15.28, 5.10.105, 5.4.184, 4.19.234, 4.14.271, and 4.9.306 | Tux Machines

20:20 MinceR; IANAL

20:21 TR News; Cluster-focused SBC features octa-core RK3588 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162411#comment-33034

20:21 TR Bot; Mixtile Blade 3 - A Rockchip RK3588 Pico-ITX board for server applications | Tux Machines

20:21 DaemonFC; <MinceR> has anyone used it in court yet?

20:21 iphonix; The Wolf of Wall Street thats the movie

20:21 DaemonFC; The IRS controls the tax courts.

20:21 DaemonFC; And has Sovereign Immunity.

20:22 iphonix; thats like a get out of jail card

20:22 MinceR; "it has just been revoked!"

20:25 MinceR; the IRS having "sovereign immunity" doesn't sound like rule of law to me, though

20:26 iphonix; "sovereign immunity" sounds like monarchy

20:26 MinceR; indeed

20:29 TR News; 'Clown' computing is itself a security breach; you're lost control of your data https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/improve-your-hybrid-cloud-security-these-3-tips

20:29 TR Bot; Improve your hybrid cloud security with these 3 tips

20:30 TR News; Greg Guice To Testify Before FCC on Broadband Consumer Labels - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/greg-guice-to-testify-before-fcc-on-broadband-consumer-labels/

20:30 TR Bot; Greg Guice To Testify Before FCC on Broadband Consumer Labels - Public Knowledge

20:31 TR News; openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2022/10 https://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2022/03/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2022-10/

20:31 TR Bot; openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2022/10 Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*)

20:32 DaemonFC; <iphonix> "sovereign immunity" sounds like monarchy

20:32 DaemonFC; The concept is. State governments have it too.

20:32 DaemonFC; They pass laws saying under what circumstances they'll allow themselves to be sued in their courts.

20:32 MinceR; https://64.media.tumblr.com/fcacdd978c0404675a5ca10f496a15df/tumblr_p5oytjNFgd1u53c30o1_1280.jpg

20:33 TR News; Xfce accepted to Google Summer of Code 2022 https://alexxcons.github.io/blogpost_4.html

20:33 TR Bot; Alexxcon's Software Development Blog

20:34 TR News; QuatBot 0.3 released https://euroquis.nl//blabla/2022/03/11/quatbot.html it needs to be removed from Microsoft proprietary software prison (GitHub) and into KDE instead. Its home is hostile.

20:34 TR Bot; QuatBot 0.3 released | [bobulate]

20:35 TR News; New Commodore 64 Keycaps https://cubiclenate.com/2022/03/11/new-commodore-64-keycaps/

20:35 TR Bot; Commodore 64 Keycaps CubicleNate's Techpad

20:37 TR News; "or a while someone has been trying hard to discredit SparkyLinux on Distrowatch, writing (users review) that there is a problem with the EFI and so, making Sparky useless in his opinion. I understand that not everyone likes SparkyLinux" https://sparkylinux.org/having-trouble-with-sparky-go-to-our-forums/

20:37 TR Bot; Having trouble with Sparky? Go to our forums! SparkyLinux

20:37 iphonix; hence the term "hand down the law"

20:39 TR News; "I hope to see a decline in extremism in general. Most people are rational and are willing to build on common ground. That's easy to forget online where extremism drives engagement." gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2021-12-10-re-five-questions.gmi

20:39 iphonix; No one is above the law - Rule of Law

20:39 iphonix; LOL

20:39 iphonix; No one is but the institution is

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20:47 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162451

20:47 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

20:48 TR News; "nytpus criterion for determining whether a language is worth it to use or not and also a measure of whether the language designers care about the developers that use it" gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-02-18.gmi

20:58 TR News; There British media is not talking about it buut the number of people in hospital with COVID-19 climbed back to the level of last month https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom more in http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/

20:58 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom )

20:58 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com

9 PM, March 11

21:00 TR News; Krita. "Work in progress comic page on future episode 37 (and the opening of season 5) of Pepper&Carrot." https://www.davidrevoy.com/article899/work-in-progress-screenshot-ep-37

21:00 TR Bot; Work in Progress screenshot (ep 37) - David Revoy

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21:03 TR News; Estimation of the number of "Decks" (KDE and Arch Linux) out there https://boilingsteam.com/so-how-smooth-was-the-steam-deck-launch/ and games https://boilingsteam.com/1300-games-on-the-steam-deck-including-hitman-2-as-verified/

21:03 TR Bot; So, How Smooth was the Steam Deck Launch? - Boiling Steam

21:03 TR Bot; 1300 Games On The Steam Deck, Including Hitman 2 as Verified - Boiling Steam

21:04 TR News; Gulag and Stadia https://gizmodo.com/google-is-teaching-developers-to-port-windows-games-to-1848637025 this is misleading because the games run on GNU/Linux with something like WINE

21:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gizmodo.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gizmodo.com/google-is-teaching-developers-to-port-windows-games-to-1848637025

21:04 TR Bot; Google Is Teaching Developers to Port Windows Games to Stadia

21:06 TR News; Robolinux 12.04 is out http://www.robolinux.org/

21:06 TR Bot; to Robolinux.org

21:07 SomeH4x0r; what does Steam Deck run? Steam OS?

21:07 SomeH4x0r; Proton-ported Windows games?

21:07 schestowitz-TR2; no

21:07 schestowitz-TR2; let me clarify

21:07 MinceR; probably steam os

21:07 schestowitz-TR2; yes

21:07 schestowitz-TR2; but that's just arch linus

21:07 schestowitz-TR2; *nix

21:07 schestowitz-TR2; with application level DRM

21:07 schestowitz-TR2; for the steam store thing

21:08 schestowitz-TR2; it runs with KDE

21:08 schestowitz-TR2; and has some sort of desktop mode

21:08 schestowitz-TR2; this means some buyers can get introduced to the OS

21:08 schestowitz-TR2; they might even install it on another machine later

21:08 schestowitz-TR2; what's fascinating about it,

21:09 schestowitz-TR2; many game developers finally get around to testing with or porting to gnu/linux

21:09 schestowitz-TR2; because they view those handheld DRM machines as potential business/sales

21:09 SomeH4x0r; so is Steam Deck just some kind of PC with the weird OS pre-installed?

21:09 schestowitz-TR2; yes

21:09 schestowitz-TR2; and Microsofty hates it

21:09 schestowitz-TR2; and attempts to undermine iot

21:10 schestowitz-TR2; to many people "games" is why they stay with Windows

21:10 SomeH4x0r; handheld though, meaning worse input devices?

21:10 SomeH4x0r; I never seen how it looks

21:10 TR News; "You can find the source code at my Github." No, it's not yours. It is Microsoft's and the NSA's. Consider moving. https://mathtodata.medium.com/data-science-learning-trajectory-52a5f4391bf9

21:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: medium.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mathtodata.medium.com/data-science-learning-trajectory-52a5f4391bf9

21:10 TR Bot; Data Science Learning Trajectory Mining with BeautifulSoup, NetworkX and Pyvis | by Timmy Chan | Mar, 2022 | Medium

21:12 TR News; Rust outsourced its calendars, not just meeting minutes and code, to Microsoft proprietary software prison. https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/03/11/mar-steering-cycle.html

21:12 TR Bot; Rust Compiler March 2022 Steering Cycle | Inside Rust Blog

21:12 SomeH4x0r; yes, seems to be crippled

21:13 TR News; "SpiderMonkey is the JavaScript engine used in Mozilla Firefox. This newsletter gives an overview of the JavaScript and WebAssembly work weve done as part of the Firefox 98 and 99 Nightly release cycles." https://spidermonkey.dev/blog/2022/03/11/newsletter-firefox-98-99.html

21:13 TR Bot; SpiderMonkey Newsletter (Firefox 98-99) | SpiderMonkey JavaScript/WebAssembly Engine

21:13 TR News; Firefox Nightly: These Weeks In Firefox: Issue 111 https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/03/11/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-111/

21:13 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/03/11/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-111/

21:13 TR Bot; These Weeks In Firefox: Issue 111 Firefox Nightly News

21:13 TR News; "Update on what happened across the GNOME project in the week from March 04 to March 11." https://thisweek.gnome.org/posts/2022/03/twig-34/

21:13 TR Bot; #34 No Backup No Mercy This Week in GNOME

21:14 schestowitz-TR2; SomeH4x0r: like most games

21:15 schestowitz-TR2; the peripherals suck

21:15 schestowitz-TR2; they have barely evolved since sega days

21:15 schestowitz-TR2; steam deck looks like my old gamegear

21:15 SomeH4x0r; lack of keyboard makes me feel a bit bad, assuming it must be a general-purpose computer

21:15 schestowitz-TR2; and the old nintendo remotes aren't much worse than the latest

21:16 schestowitz-TR2; SomeH4x0r: I reckon you can plug one in over usb

21:16 SomeH4x0r; it is fine if it is some console

21:16 schestowitz-TR2; but the screeen is small

21:16 SomeH4x0r; another bad thing with "modern" devices

21:17 SomeH4x0r; some "modern" PC having no VGA port because some entities wants us to think it is "obsolete"

21:17 TR News; Apparently Microsoft Windows TCO strikes again https://www.engadget.com/samsung-hack-galaxy-source-code-131034416.html

21:17 TR Bot; confirms hackers compromised its systems and stole Galaxy source code | Engadget

21:17 iphonix; steam deck to stream your games to your mobilephone

21:17 schestowitz-TR2; SomeH4x0r: my lapdop uses VGA right now

21:17 schestowitz-TR2; for the external screen, it's my main laptop

21:17 schestowitz-TR2; I have a spare external too for it

21:17 schestowitz-TR2; VGA only

21:18 schestowitz-TR2; to me, to the naked eye, hdmi looks the same as vga

21:18 SomeH4x0r; except HDMI has DRM

21:18 schestowitz-TR2; yes, I know

21:18 schestowitz-TR2; it's a hopping poiny

21:18 schestowitz-TR2; which is why it should be rejected when possible

21:19 iphonix; DRM? what does that do?

21:19 schestowitz-TR2; it enabls back things

21:19 schestowitz-TR2; for audio and video

21:19 schestowitz-TR2; like cables that treat you as an enemy

21:19 iphonix; thats nvidea

21:19 schestowitz-TR2; the same is true for usb-letter (c) sockets

21:19 iphonix; nvidia

21:20 schestowitz-TR2; headphone jack is fine

21:20 schestowitz-TR2; good enough quality under all circumstances

21:20 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162452

21:20 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

21:21 schestowitz-TR2; instead of making inventions that improve quality

21:21 schestowitz-TR2; they invent in the direction of screwing customers

21:21 schestowitz-TR2; some "innnovvvvation..."

21:21 iphonix; once 16k tvs come out you will need a pair of special glasses to take advantage of the extended image quality

21:21 iphonix; eagle eys googles

21:22 schestowitz-TR2; ha

21:22 schestowitz-TR2; there was also stereo-vision

21:22 schestowitz-TR2; cannot remember the last time we went to the cinema with those

21:22 iphonix; stereo-vision is 3d

21:22 schestowitz-TR2; are they still making movies for these glasses?

21:22 schestowitz-TR2; I've not paid attention due to covid19

21:22 SomeH4x0r; I went to such cinema a few years ago

21:23 SomeH4x0r; not "covid19", but evil regimes

21:23 schestowitz-TR2; right now the "industry" just adds more pixels you cannot see anyway

21:23 schestowitz-TR2; unless you sit 1 meter from the TV set

21:23 iphonix; i saw that 3d movie

21:23 iphonix; with that blue guy

21:23 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, Was that a glitch last night or is Mr. Goolag back?

21:23 iphonix; whats was the name?

21:24 schestowitz-TR2; galaxy

21:24 schestowitz-TR2; guardians of

21:24 iphonix; any way that was the last time i when to the cinema

21:24 schestowitz-TR2; or maybe you mean avatar

21:24 iphonix; no way back

21:24 iphonix; the 1st 3d modern movie

21:24 iphonix; avatar yes

21:25 schestowitz-TR2; movies no longer sell well

21:25 schestowitz-TR2; maybe they don't want to invest in stereo-visual filming

21:25 schestowitz-TR2; instead, they make drm

21:26 schestowitz-TR2; so they can sell you over ando over and over again the same movies fromm the 90s

21:26 iphonix; the best thing will be implanted directly in your brain

21:26 SomeH4x0r; better die than get DRM implanted

21:26 schestowitz-TR2; your head is "authorised"

21:27 schestowitz-TR2; for viewing

21:27 kingoffrance; ""sovereign immunity" doesn't sound like rule of law to me" because it isnt. its back to the old world "grace" system ;)

21:27 iphonix; think of the children

21:27 kingoffrance; or, the pharaoh system if you prefer ;)

21:27 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: SomeH4x0r wanted all the limitations removed

21:28 schestowitz-TR2; if the channel devolves again into sex and threat, we'll get back to where it was

21:29 SomeH4x0r; schestowitz-TR2: https://xkcd.com/129/

21:29 TR Bot; Content Protection

21:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/129/

21:29 iphonix; implanted directly in your brain you can smell feel and even experiance emotional sensations

21:29 iphonix; sounds like a killer tech

21:30 schestowitz-TR2; maybe for "business" people

21:30 iphonix; its gona be disruptive

21:30 schestowitz-TR2; maybe they'll charge you extra to also smell what you eat

21:30 schestowitz-TR2; burger will have 3 tiers

21:30 schestowitz-TR2; no smell, no taste

21:30 schestowitz-TR2; only taste

21:30 iphonix; and to taste what you smell

21:30 schestowitz-TR2; smell and taste

21:30 schestowitz-TR2; choose your option

21:31 schestowitz-TR2; there will be food privacy

21:31 schestowitz-TR2; people breaking the system

21:31 iphonix; if you dont get premium you will smell crap every 5m of viewing

21:31 schestowitz-TR2; to be able to also smell the burger without paying

21:31 schestowitz-TR2; "pirates"!

21:31 schestowitz-TR2; the industry is DESTROYED by these people

21:31 schestowitz-TR2; they enjoy something in the food WITHOUT paying extra

21:32 schestowitz-TR2; "FUCKING PIRATES!"

21:32 iphonix; you can even die from unger felling like you have you belly fulll

21:32 schestowitz-TR2; the cows ("artists") will be out oft he job

21:33 schestowitz-TR2; they will sign treaties with nations

21:33 schestowitz-TR2; imposing on them royalties for unlocking smell of food

21:33 schestowitz-TR2; otherwise, they will be shunned from "development programmes"

21:34 iphonix; channel will be making a bundle

21:34 iphonix; they got that smell patented

21:34 schestowitz-TR2; coca chanel?

21:34 schestowitz-TR2; coco

21:35 iphonix; the perfume corp

21:35 schestowitz-TR2; btw, monopolies of smells and taste were tested in court last year

21:35 schestowitz-TR2; iirc, the judge denied them

21:35 schestowitz-TR2; it's a step too far

21:35 schestowitz-TR2; and how do you even assess similarity?

21:35 schestowitz-TR2; jury smelling things?

21:35 schestowitz-TR2; "huilty!"

21:35 iphonix; you get a robot snifer

21:35 schestowitz-TR2; *guilty!"

21:36 schestowitz-TR2; iphonix: what about taste?

21:36 schestowitz-TR2; the robots digests it?

21:36 iphonix; same thing

21:36 iphonix; its all chemicals anyway

21:36 schestowitz-TR2; anyway, it's a darm stupid system

21:36 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2018/08/02/design-patents-legitimacy/

21:36 TR Bot; Design Patents: When Appearances Rather Than Inventions and Functions Are Oddly Enough Covered by Patents, Not Copyrights or Trademarks | Techrights

21:37 *immibis_ is now known as immibis

21:37 immibis; probably similar to copyright. If it walks like the same smell and quacks like the same smell, it's the same smell

21:37 iphonix; taste and smell are our own Chemical analysis system

21:38 immibis; VGA is literally oboslete. literally. just like COM ports

21:38 schestowitz-TR2; I still use it

21:38 immibis; and manual transmission

21:38 schestowitz-TR2; so it's not oboslete to me

21:39 iphonix; they just trained ants to smell cancer in under 30m

21:39 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162453

21:39 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

21:40 iphonix; https://www.cell.com/iscience/fulltext/S2589-0042(22)00229-2

21:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cell.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cell.com/iscience/fulltext/S2589-0042(22)00229-2

21:40 TR Bot; DEFINE_ME

21:41 iphonix; they say they are just as aquarate as dogs

21:42 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wK4_5-96Z8

21:42 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9wK4_5-96Z8

21:42 TR Bot; yewtu.be | The Exciting of Trains (Official) - Invidious

21:42 iphonix; accurate

21:43 iphonix; https://newatlas.com/computers/googles-deepmind-ai-gaps-ancient-texts/

21:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: newatlas.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://newatlas.com/computers/googles-deepmind-ai-gaps-ancient-texts/

21:43 TR Bot; Google's DeepMind AI fills in the blanks on broken ancient texts

21:43 iphonix; they can go as far as iol at least

21:44 iphonix; aol

21:45 psydroid2; I'm wondering which computer systems and software are left that are not tools for the state

21:45 activelow; ^ gigatron

21:46 schestowitz-TR2; is that so? how?

21:47 iphonix; https://newatlas.com/computers/myheritage-livestory/

21:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: newatlas.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://newatlas.com/computers/myheritage-livestory/

21:47 TR Bot; Deepfake tool gives animated life stories of dead relatives a voice

21:48 iphonix; maybe we can trick it to get putin saying hes going to end war on ucrania

21:49 activelow; schestowitz-TR2: it builds upon designs pre-dating the 1984 semiconductor protection act

21:49 activelow; to keep it brief

21:49 activelow; anything else since then is rigged

21:50 schestowitz-TR2; as in, user-hostile?

21:50 schestowitz-TR2; define rigged

21:50 schestowitz-TR2; I am interested in your findings

21:50 activelow; corrupted by USA

21:50 schestowitz-TR2; why 1984?

21:50 activelow; and their pentagon-corprate interests

21:50 schestowitz-TR2; what happened then?

21:50 iphonix; big brother happend

21:51 schestowitz-TR2; yeah, apart from that symbolism

21:51 activelow; 1984 the semiconductor protection act was introduced, to "protect" certain interests

21:51 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_Chip_Protection_Act_of_1984

21:51 TR Bot; Semiconductor Chip Protection Act of 1984 - Wikipedia

21:51 schestowitz; ah, I see...

21:51 schestowitz; inreresting

21:51 schestowitz; "The Semiconductor Chip Protection Act of 1984 (or SCPA) is an act of the US Congress that makes the layouts of integrated circuits legally protected upon registration, and hence illegal to copy without permission. It is an integrated circuit layout design protection law."

21:52 activelow; and 1990 the east-german semiconductur manufacturing was almost entirely dismantled

21:52 activelow; and, don't become confused by various performance data, either 4MHz or 4000MHz is a rather boring scaling criteria

21:52 activelow; which says little to nothing about freedom

21:52 schestowitz-TR2; I was 2

21:53 schestowitz-TR2; so even my first PC was "corrupted"

21:53 TR News; Links 11/3/2022: FreeBSD 13.1 Beta and QuatBot 0.3 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/11/quatbot-0-3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/11/quatbot-0-3/

21:53 TR Bot; Links 11/3/2022: FreeBSD 13.1 Beta and QuatBot 0.3 | Techrights

21:54 schestowitz-TR2; activelow: when USA collapses like USSR, who will take over harware?

21:54 iphonix; thats just a copyright thing its not tpm or drm

21:54 schestowitz-TR2; does china still follow those same guidelines?

21:54 schestowitz-TR2; considering what the seditionist did to them?

21:54 TR News; Links 11/3/2022: FreeBSD 13.1 Beta and QuatBot 0.3 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/11/quatbot-0-3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/11/quatbot-0-3/

21:54 activelow; schestowitz-TR2: the relevant knowledge is rotting already

21:55 activelow; except for some tiny fringe niches, and even those are poisoned

21:55 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162454

21:55 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines

21:55 TR News; Debian: Sparky Forums and Some Debian Activites Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162455

21:55 TR Bot; Debian: Sparky Forums and Some Debian Activites | Tux Machines

21:55 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162456

21:55 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

21:55 activelow; and even if USA didn't collapse, the "advanced" tech industry will, question isn't if anymore

21:56 activelow; in recent decades this was coped with by replacing a generation of electronic waste with an even more gigantic mounting of crap every few month

21:56 TR News; LOL. Get rid of it and get a machine WITHOUT NSA back doors. https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/guides/practical-guide-to-securing-your-mac/

21:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/guides/practical-guide-to-securing-your-mac/

21:56 TR Bot; A Practical Guide to Securing Your Mac | Reviews by Wirecutter

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21:57 TR News; A Penguin Faces Death by Leopard Seal in Jaw-Dropping Grand Prize Image https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/leopard-seal-hunting-gentoo-penguin-also-snags-first-place-in-world-nature-photography-awards-180979715/ https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/world-nature-photography-award-winners/

21:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: smithsonianmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/leopard-seal-hunting-gentoo-penguin-also-snags-first-place-in-world-nature-photography-awards-180979715/

21:57 TR Bot; A Penguin Faces Death by Leopard Seal in Jaw-Dropping Grand Prize Image | Smart News | Smithsonian Magazine

21:57 TR Bot; A leopard seal catches her lunch: The World Nature Photography Award winners - BBC Science Focus Magazine

21:58 activelow; if we're lucky, hopefully, some of the "obsolete" knowledge and manufacturing will remain intact, if at all

21:58 activelow; the east-german one is gone

21:59 iphonix; https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-retpoline-2022&num=1

21:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-retpoline-2022&num=1

21:59 TR Bot; Performance Impact Of AMD Changing Their Retpoline Method For Spectre V2 - Phoronix

10 PM, March 11

22:01 TR News; What a truly awful article. BS. https://www.cdotrends.com/story/16254/kinder-gentler-cyberwar

22:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cdotrends.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cdotrends.com/story/16254/kinder-gentler-cyberwar

22:01 TR Bot; Kinder, Gentler Cyberwar | CDOTrends

22:02 TR News; 5 years ago GNU/Linux was already better than the other OSes on the desktop/laptop https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/1/26/14399948/kde-slimbook-neon-laptop-linux-os-announced-price

22:02 TR Bot; Would you pay $800 for a Linux laptop? - The Verge

22:03 TR News; Clown = delusion, hype, and deception https://finance.yahoo.com/news/68-members-join-cloud-native-170000745.html

22:03 TR Bot; 68 New Members Join the Cloud Native Computing Foundation

22:03 TR News; Outsourcing to Microsoft proprietary software https://www.awn.com/news/open-source-entertainment-how-academy-software-foundation-creates-shared-value-research-paper

22:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: awn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.awn.com/news/open-source-entertainment-how-academy-software-foundation-creates-shared-value-research-paper

22:03 TR Bot; Open Source in Entertainment: How the Academy Software Foundation Creates Shared Value Research Paper Released | Animation World Network

22:03 iphonix; cant seem to open the damn phoronix page

22:04 DaemonFC; It seems most of today's new sanctions on Russia are banning $1.2 billion of annual seafood imports.

22:04 DaemonFC; $900 million of which is crab.

22:04 DaemonFC; Much of the Free Software movement is in "developing" countries and Europe.

22:05 DaemonFC; It's a necessity. They can't afford lots of Windows licenses and/or they don't want their systems under the control of Microsoft.

22:05 TR News; "HEY HI" is buzzwords and nonsense, so femmewashing won't benefit from the association with mindless hype https://www.forbes.com/sites/markminevich/2022/03/10/the-9-inspirational-women-leaders-in-ai-shaping-the-21st-century/

22:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/markminevich/2022/03/10/the-9-inspirational-women-leaders-in-ai-shaping-the-21st-century/

22:05 TR Bot; The 9 Inspirational Women Leaders In AI Shaping The 21st Century

22:05 DaemonFC; Either way it's a good idea. Saves money, less backdoors and attack surface.

22:05 bnchs__; i like gemini and all

22:05 bnchs__; but one thing i like about old webpages is the backgrounds

22:06 bnchs__; they have these cool looping background (either brick wood or something)

22:06 bnchs__; repeating*

22:06 TR News; Wait a second. Gulag PAID MILLIONS to its manager, Andy Rubin, for getting blow jobs from subordinates (yes, he got PAID just to leave). How on Earth does Gulag have the audacity to claim that it protests women???? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-08/google-twitter-try-to-clamp-down-on-online-harassment-of-women?utm_source=google&utm_medium=bd&cmpId=google

22:06 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?

22:06 iphonix; you gota love the clourfull animated text

22:06 schestowitz; *protects

22:07 bnchs__; it's not the colorful animated text

22:07 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs__: you can use translucnacy in gemini

22:07 iphonix; its the Gulag what did you expect?

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22:07 schestowitz-TR2; to make your own background

22:07 schestowitz-TR2; even animated

22:07 bnchs__; schestowitz-TR2, translucnacy?

22:08 DaemonFC; I do like the way Lagrange presents it. I'm not sure if that's in the Gemtext specification or just client side.

22:08 bnchs__; also which i mean by repeating

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22:08 bnchs__; it's actually the image repeating in X and Y axis

22:08 bnchs__; not the image being animated

22:08 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs__: at desktop environment/window manager level

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22:08 schestowitz-TR2; all the application on this machine I type on have translucency

22:08 schestowitz-TR2; see-through

22:08 bnchs__; yes

22:09 bnchs__; i do have that with my compositor

22:09 schestowitz-TR2; this way you can handle more applications on one desktop

22:09 schestowitz-TR2; you see other processes

22:09 schestowitz-TR2; I use 7 screens at the moment

22:10 iphonix; https://icons8.com/animizer/images/animated-text-previews/in-turn-appearing.gif

22:10 TR Bot; ( status 504 @ https://icons8.com/animizer/images/animated-text-previews/in-turn-appearing.gif )

22:12 iphonix; its seems they sanction russia lots of things but gun powder

22:12 TR News; "I cannot possibly understand why anyone would think that flatpak, snaps, appimages, or docker is the way to go." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-09-01.gmi

22:12 iphonix; ucrania is like a powder kegg

22:12 schestowitz-TR2; iphonix: the policies do not make sense

22:12 schestowitz-TR2; it's justa dying gorilla

22:13 schestowitz-TR2; punching a nuclear donkey kong

22:13 schestowitz-TR2; (off-putin)

22:13 schestowitz-TR2; us cannot afford to cater for its citizens

22:13 schestowitz-TR2; so it drives that other "super" power to rationing

22:13 schestowitz-TR2; how nice of them

22:13 schestowitz-TR2; cruel and counter-productive

22:13 schestowitz-TR2; hyper-ifnflation in germany contributes to ww2

22:14 schestowitz-TR2; so we know how those sanctions can work out

22:14 schestowitz-TR2; maybe conflict is their actual goal

22:14 schestowitz-TR2; the us has long provoked in that region, further south in georgia also

22:14 iphonix; it crossed my mind

22:14 schestowitz-TR2; how do you think china feels about us in jp, sk, and vietnam, guam etc?

22:15 schestowitz-TR2; heck, maybe russia and china should start sending peacekeeping forces to mexico and cuba

22:16 TR News; "These proclamations celebrate the contributions of women and recognize achievements women have made in a variety of fields over the course of American history." https://bsd405.org/2022/03/celebrating-womens-history-month/

22:16 TR Bot; Celebrating Womens History Month Bellevue School District

22:17 TR News; "On a technical level, vita2hos is not unlike WINE, which enables POSIX-compliant operating systems such as Linux, Mac OS, and BSD to run Windows programs so long as they use the same processor architecture." https://hackaday.com/2022/03/06/nintendo-switch-runs-vita-software-with-vita2hos/

22:17 TR Bot; Switch Runs Vita Software With Vita2hos | Hackaday

22:18 TR News; "Another problem seems to be how heavily the Lisp ecosystem is tied to Emacs. If the first thing I'm told when trying to learn a new programming language is "the only way you'll be able to write it easily and good is if you uproot your entire system setup and replace it with Emacs" it feels very offputting." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-09-29.gmi

22:20 TR News; "My basic server was very easygoing when it came to the format of the requests. The only thing I was really doing was making sure directory traversal was not possible. My error codes weren't quite right and I wasn't enforcing checks on the hostname, port numbers, and scheme." gemini://jfh.me/posts/2020-11-02-gemini-dianostics.gmi

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22:23 TR News; Reading ebooks with Gemini gemini://calcuode.com/gemlog/2021-06-05_ereader.gmi

22:24 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/hvAxAIk.jpeg

22:24 Alternative link; Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/hvAxAIk.jpeg

22:25 TR News; "In 2013, I had my first contact with GNU/Linux. I was 10 years old back then. Before that year, the only operating system I knew about was Windows. But then, my dad told me something about how "Linux" was a free operating system developed by people around the world. He never used it, but he probably heard about it at some point." gemini://avalos.me/gemlog/2021-05-28-new-computer-new-age.gmi

22:27 TR News; "Heres your weekly Fedora report. Read what happened this week and whats coming up. Your contributions are welcome (see the end of the post)!" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-10/

22:27 TR Bot; Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-10 Fedora Community Blog

22:28 TR News; But we drive more and more animals into complete extinction quicker than we make such 'token' discoveries https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/08/science/vampire-squid-biden.html

22:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/08/science/vampire-squid-biden.html

22:28 TR Bot; Fossil of Vampire Squids Oldest Ancestor Is Named for Biden - The New York Times

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22:31 TR News; Summary of developers around GNU/Linux in mobile, preceded by exaggeration and FUD, citing Microsoft sources https://linmob.net/weekly-update-10-2022/

22:31 TR Bot; - Weekly Update (10/2022): Squeekboard gets a new look, Nheko 0.9.2, Dirty Pipes and Tow-Boot being released for PinePhone and PinePhone Pro

22:32 TR News; "COVID-19 cases are on the rise. It's tough to think about much else as I sit shoulder-to-shoulder on a bus, which I will do for at least an hour every day this week, bringing my kids to a school that does not mandate masks or trace contacts or require COVID-19 tests." gemini://sixohthree.com/log/packt-like-sardines.gmi

22:34 TR News; In the UK, COVID-19 is not a solved issue but a GROWING issue: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/category/health/ the policy of "let's ignore and pretend it went away" will kill tens of thousands additional people, allow the virus to mutate

22:34 TR Bot; Health

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22:36 TR News; Published yesterday for England: Weekly all-cause mortality surveillance https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1059960/Weekly_report_mortality__W10.pdf

22:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: service.gov.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1059960/Weekly_report_mortality__W10.pdf

22:37 TR News; Clarence Thomas wants Supreme Court to tackle #Sec230 - Protocol https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/clarence-thomas-230-meta

22:37 TR Bot; Thomas wants Supreme Court to tackle Sec. 230 - Protocol

22:38 TR News; US media: LOOK AT RUSSIA!! Their inflation is terrible. Ours? Haha, not much better. But look at RUSHA!! https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/10/business/economy/cpi-inflation-february-2022.html

22:38 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/10/business/economy/cpi-inflation-february-2022.html

22:38 TR Bot; Inflation Rises to 7.9 Percent for February 2022 - The New York Times

22:39 TR News; "With the increase of more developers working in the next Linux kernel 5.17, many AMD-based features will see some significant improvements and mark the beginning of new advances in terms of AMD compatibility and processing in GNU/Linux and other systems with Linux kernel." https://appuals.com/linux-kernel-5-17-brings-important-performance-improvements-for-cpu-and-apu-amd-ryzen/

22:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: appuals.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appuals.com/linux-kernel-5-17-brings-important-performance-improvements-for-cpu-and-apu-amd-ryzen/

22:39 TR Bot; Kernel 5.17 Brings Important Performance Improvements for AMD Ryzen CPUs - Appuals.com

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22:41 TR News; WTF? Twitter is all about surveillance. Just like Facebook, it now targets fools who wrongly believe it can be used anonymously. Use Nitter instead. https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/09/twitter-launches-its-tor-project-onion-address/

22:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ghacks.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/09/twitter-launches-its-tor-project-onion-address/

22:41 TR Bot; Twitter launches its Tor Project onion address - gHacks Tech News

22:42 TR News; Twitter does NOT care about your privacy. It's only looking to broaden the reach of the propaganda in it, bypassing blocks.

22:42 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, I was gathering cans out of the pantry that I plan on using up to get rid of.

22:42 DaemonFC; Found a can of corn that was swelling, tossed it.

22:42 DaemonFC; So I lost one can. Oh well. They were all dented can sales, so you lose one sometimes.

22:43 schestowitz-TR2; I see the US lifestyle is very glorious

22:43 schestowitz-TR2; you pick up cans

22:43 schestowitz-TR2; there's a stereotype associated with collecting scrap metal

22:45 DaemonFC; Yeah, if a can is swollen, it's dangerous to even open it.

22:45 DaemonFC; It means there's a shitload of bacteria growing in it because the seal was corrupted.

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22:45 DaemonFC; Mom said her brother opened a can of spaghetti when they were kids and it blew up and sprayed the ceiling.

22:45 TR News; UEFI is not a feature but a defect. Tachyum should know better. But in computing the users have long been abandoned, they're presumed malicious https://www.hpcwire.com/off-the-wire/tachyum-advances-system-software-to-pre-production-state/

22:45 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hpcwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hpcwire.com/off-the-wire/tachyum-advances-system-software-to-pre-production-state/

22:45 TR Bot; Tachyum Advances System Software To Pre-Production State

22:46 DaemonFC; They cleaned it off but had to paint over it, and every once in wa while they had to paint it again.

22:46 DaemonFC; Grandma always hoarded food and then let it go bad.

22:46 DaemonFC; Tons of it.

22:48 TR News; Leave those places alone. This is what the Bezos military-grade propaganda rag is advertising to people, while Bezos the insecure sociopath flies rockets to do a little "showoff" 'spacewalk' https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2022/03/03/antarctica-polar-sailing-wildlife/

22:48 Alternative link; Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2022/03/03/antarctica-polar-sailing-wildlife/

22:49 TR Bot; New polar vessels make Antarctica more accessible to travelers - The Washington Post

22:50 TR News; Why does "POPULAR SCIENCE" publish THIS? Seems like paid-for WEBSPAM https://www.popsci.com/reviews/best-website-builders/

22:50 TR Bot; Best Website Builders of 2022 | Popular Science

22:51 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: did she grow up during the great depression or something? as a kid?

22:51 DaemonFC; She's 90 years old now

22:51 DaemonFC; So 1931.

22:51 schestowitz-TR2; so yes

22:51 schestowitz-TR2; as a kid

22:52 schestowitz-TR2; maybe trauma

22:52 DaemonFC; Mom does the same thing.

22:52 DaemonFC; Learned behavior? Genetic memory?

22:52 schestowitz-TR2; Church

22:52 DaemonFC; There's a theory that trauma implants itself in our DNA and then we pass it to offspring.

22:52 schestowitz-TR2; Jesus: yes, maam, bring all your cans to heaven

22:52 DaemonFC; Then it surfaces at a subconscious level, even generations later.

22:54 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/814778.png

22:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/814778.png

22:54 TR News; Microsoft spamming/googlebombing this product, seeding confusion https://hothardware.com/news/windows-video-drivers-for-steam-deck-are-out

22:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hothardware.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hothardware.com/news/windows-video-drivers-for-steam-deck-are-out

22:54 TR Bot; Graphics Drivers For Steam Deck Are Out, Gamers Start Your Benchmarks | HotHardware

22:54 DaemonFC; It could explain why people who were abused as children who don't abuse their children still have children with higher than average rates of mental illness, PTSD features...

22:54 DaemonFC; Or why most people have a severe phobia of rats. "Beware of rats. Plague!"

22:56 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR2> Jesus: yes, maam, bring all your cans to heaven

22:56 DaemonFC; Yeah, they say "Christians don't worry. God sorts everything out.".

22:57 TR News; Shoveling up FUD to distract from Microsoft's back doors http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162251#comment-33038 see http://techrights.org/2022/03/08/a-media-of-masturbating-monkeys/

22:57 DaemonFC; It sounds very first world of them.

22:57 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

22:57 TR Bot; This is the Medias Equivalent of What Linus Torvalds Called Masturbating Monkeys | Techrights

22:57 MinceR; "let god sort them out!"

22:57 DaemonFC; Easy to say when you aren't in some country where they starve or where the Russians bomb hospitals and rape the women.

22:58 MinceR; though i prefer "Kill 'em All. No sorting necessary."

22:59 XRevan86; MinceR: I'm right here.

22:59 DaemonFC; Apparently, Putin agrees with that and doesn't care how many Russians die doing it.

22:59 MinceR; XRevan86: lol

22:59 MinceR; XRevan86: are you a member of united russia or the russian military?

11 PM, March 11

23:00 MinceR; not that it makes much difference, most likely humanity will exterminate itself anyway

23:00 MinceR; and there's no "God" to sort them out

23:00 XRevan86; MinceR: That's sorting-like %).

23:00 MinceR; the ones that don't get killed don't need to be sorted :>

23:03 DaemonFC; "Russia's consumer rights organization has drawn up a list of companies that have decided to leave and could be nationalized, according to a report in Russian newspaper Izvestiya later cited by state news agency TASS.

23:03 DaemonFC; The document that was reportedly sent to the Russian government and the Prosecutor General's Office, includes 59 companies, including Volkswagen, Apple, IKEA, Microsoft, IBM, Shell, McDonald's, Porsche, Toyota, H&M, and can be updated with more brands, Izvestiya said."

23:03 DaemonFC; LOL

23:03 DaemonFC; Rich assholes getting ready to lose their money.

23:05 DaemonFC; They're going to use it to try to avoid a debt default, for now. So it all goes back out to Russia's creditors.

23:07 TR News; "I needed to spend some time today updating the DTOS repos, and I also wanted to test installing DTOS on Manjaro." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ZMyWOVGx2c4

23:07 TR Bot; Manjaro Is Nice. Manjaro With DTOS? Even Better! - Invidious

23:11 iphonix; wtf is dtos?

23:12 TR News; Wine 7.4 changes the default theme and more PE conversion work Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162457

23:12 TR Bot; Wine 7.4 changes the default theme and more PE conversion work | Tux Machines

23:13 TR News; BIVROST from Poland has chosen a processor with US back doors https://linuxgizmos.com/coffee-lake-machine-vision-system-features-eight-usb-3-2-gen2-and-five-m-2/

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23:14 XFaCE; <iphonix> wtf is dtos?

23:14 schestowitz-TR2; iphonix: ego project

23:14 XFaCE; DistroTube's script set for his configs

23:14 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR2: wow that's a pointlessly ungenerous interpretation

23:14 DaemonFC; I think some people in Russia worry. Even the billionaires, only about their money.

23:14 DaemonFC; They have plenty, they'll always have plenty.

23:15 DaemonFC; They're still pissed about losing a fraction.

23:15 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR2: is TechRights an ego project by your measure?

23:15 schestowitz-TR2; no

23:15 schestowitz-TR2; dtos is a misnomber

23:15 schestowitz-TR2; it is not an OS

23:15 schestowitz-TR2; and it is about emualing some things

23:15 XFaCE; it's a tongue in cheek joke

23:15 schestowitz-TR2; yeah

23:16 XFaCE; But to label it as an ego project casts aspersions of narcissism for no reason

23:16 schestowitz; RMS: "When I do this, some people think that it's because I want my ego to be fed, right? Of course, I'm not asking you to call it "Stallmanix"!

23:16 XFaCE; schestowitz: his name isn't distrotube

23:16 schestowitz; it's derek taylor

23:16 schestowitz; DT

23:17 schestowitz; so it's an OS called after him

23:17 XFaCE; yeah but the DT stands for distrotube

23:17 schestowitz; and not even an OS

23:17 XFaCE; so what?

23:17 schestowitz; making a script that's self-named is...

23:17 schestowitz; cyanogen mod

23:17 XFaCE; His channel is called DistroTube

23:17 schestowitz; yes, I know

23:17 XFaCE; DT refers to DistroTube

23:17 schestowitz; bit by coincidence his initals

23:18 XFaCE; yes

23:18 XFaCE; But why assume the worst intepretation?

23:18 schestowitz; zorin OS, iirc, also relates to a name

23:18 schestowitz; deb-ian

23:18 iphonix; if it was portube

23:18 schestowitz; linus/x

23:18 iphonix; porntube

23:18 schestowitz; PTOS

23:18 schestowitz; the OS that comes preloaded with porn downloaders

23:18 XFaCE; schestowitz: But why assume the worst interpretation?

23:19 schestowitz; ego I said

23:19 schestowitz; calling it after himself

23:19 schestowitz; he could call it something else

23:19 XFaCE; He named it after his channel

23:19 schestowitz; see the RMS quote

23:19 schestowitz; he named the channel after him

23:19 iphonix; lacking imagination?

23:19 XFaCE; no he named the channel distrotube after the concept of distros

23:19 schestowitz; ftr, he likes techrights

23:20 iphonix; linux/linux

23:20 XFaCE; you are assuming that he named it after himself because you are playing armchair psychologist

23:20 iphonix; linus/linux

23:20 schestowitz; no

23:20 schestowitz; it is a pattern

23:20 iphonix; i guess its a thing in linux

23:20 schestowitz; I look deeper than you into it

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23:20 schestowitz; linus is a narcissist more than RMS ever was

23:20 XFaCE; schestowitz: yes, that literally what could be described as someone doing armchair psychology

23:21 XFaCE; Linus is also self-deprecating, see the Git joke

23:21 schestowitz; git is a short name

23:21 schestowitz; which is important in CLI

23:21 schestowitz; and was available

23:21 schestowitz; svn, cvs, git

23:21 schestowitz; saves typing

23:22 schestowitz; my assertion stands

23:22 schestowitz; my own interpretation

23:22 iphonix; also makes it hard to guess what is it

23:22 XFaCE; schestowitz: yes, names can have one or more reasons

23:22 XFaCE; that doesn't contradict anything I said

23:22 schestowitz; hey, i'm not the one pushing techrights merch

23:22 XFaCE; I didn't say you are?

23:22 schestowitz; techrights isn't even my name

23:23 schestowitz; tessier came up with the name

23:23 XFaCE; Ok? Do you want a cookie?

23:23 schestowitz; rms was then asked about it

23:23 schestowitz; so anyway, Dereke does have a big ego

23:23 XFaCE; You don't have to defend integrity that was not challenged

23:23 schestowitz; many people do

23:23 schestowitz; no matter colour, race, gender..

23:23 schestowitz; and it's OK to point that out

23:23 schestowitz; not a rude or snide remark

23:23 XFaCE; If you mean in general people who do youtube channels and other video sharing have strong sense of self, sure

23:24 schestowitz; and thick-skinned people wouldn't be too offended

23:24 XFaCE; Who exactly are you calling offended?

23:24 schestowitz; XFaCE: not always, but many yes

23:24 XFaCE; I'm not offended, if that's your implication

23:24 schestowitz; the narcissists are attracted to "insta" mopre

23:24 schestowitz; taking photos of themselves

23:24 schestowitz; then enhancing their selfies

23:24 XFaCE; Ok, Derek isn't that

23:24 schestowitz; because they need affirmation with "likes"

23:25 schestowitz; instead of focusing on art, writing, sport etc.

23:25 XFaCE; I would say though you posted photos of yourself post workout

23:25 iphonix; derec

23:25 XFaCE; for public consumption

23:25 schestowitz; so did derek

23:25 iphonix; thats why hes a vblogger

23:25 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Also doesn't seem to get another fact.

23:25 XFaCE; he did a few workout videos

23:25 DaemonFC; Pollution is part of what keeps wealthy people out of an area out.

23:25 DaemonFC; Pollution and crime.

23:26 DaemonFC; Poor people have to live there because it drives the rent down, so there's nowhere else they can live.

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23:26 schestowitz; fwiw, derek said not very nice things about a canadian

23:26 DaemonFC; When they root out the pollution and crime, people like him move in and raise prices.

23:26 XFaCE; schestowitz: Do you see what you have setup here? You called out "the narcissists are attracted to "insta" mopre"

23:26 schestowitz; ash from mastodon.technology

23:26 XFaCE; "taking photos of themselves"

23:26 DaemonFC; Then the poor don't get better air and less crime, they have to move to another shithole to make way for mjg59_

23:26 schestowitz; describing him only in terms of nationality

23:26 XFaCE; and then when I pointed out you have done the same, you do a whataboutism

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23:27 XFaCE; Please be consistent, that's what I like about you

23:27 schestowitz; how often do I post photos of me?

23:27 XFaCE; That's one of the main points I've respected about your character

23:27 schestowitz; compared to other things?

23:27 XFaCE; It doesn't matter how much

23:27 XFaCE; you did

23:27 schestowitz; occasionally, but not often

23:27 XFaCE; By the standard you set, you should have posted none

23:28 XFaCE; Any photo is a sign of ego

23:28 schestowitz; ok, so stay anonymous

23:28 iphonix; cmon think of the children

23:28 XFaCE; That is not what I said

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23:28 schestowitz; some people post photos of their young kids

23:28 schestowitz; that I oppose, but for other reasons

23:28 schestowitz; I saw youtube channels where they rob the kids off their dignity since birth

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23:29 XFaCE; Ok, what level of picture posted would be the threshold for the "insta" mopre?

23:29 schestowitz; to get "views" and sell "influencer" services

23:29 schestowitz; the kids do not consent to this

23:29 XFaCE; "fwiw, derek said not very nice things about a canadian" so what?

23:29 iphonix; they are thinking about the kids safety that way the are giving the police their biometrics

23:29 schestowitz; he made lots of enemies for his politics

23:29 XFaCE; That Canadian is an individual who is not me, I am not offended on other's behalf

23:29 schestowitz; which seem to be edgy libertarian

23:30 XFaCE; schestowitz: so have you, I, and everyone

23:30 schestowitz; libertarians have a stigma associated with them

23:30 XFaCE; now your describing only in terms of political ideology

23:30 schestowitz; so let's backtrack a bit

23:30 XFaCE; how is that better than nationality?

23:30 schestowitz; someone asked what DTOS was

23:30 XFaCE; Yes

23:30 schestowitz; DT is Derek

23:30 schestowitz; OS is not an OS

23:30 iphonix; i did

23:31 schestowitz; and the video was about some self-named thing

23:31 schestowitz; ego

23:31 iphonix; i dont like that dude

23:31 schestowitz; ego does not have to be a very bad thing, look up the definition

23:31 schestowitz; ego became a bad word

23:31 XFaCE; My explaination was more to point and actually described what it said

23:31 XFaCE; You only described it as an ego project

23:31 iphonix; i think is doing linux a disfavoure

23:31 iphonix; is that the indivous guy?

23:32 iphonix; indivious?

23:32 schestowitz; DT is also o n odysee

23:32 schestowitz; he recently shut down distrotoot

23:32 schestowitz; and also his gemini capsule last year

23:32 schestowitz; gemini://distro.tube

23:32 iphonix; yes it him

23:33 iphonix; i dont like him is full od shit

23:33 schestowitz; from http://dict.org/bin/Dict

23:33 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dict.org

23:33 schestowitz; ego

23:33 schestowitz; n 1: an inflated feeling of pride in your superiority to others

23:33 schestowitz; [syn: ego, egotism, self-importance]

23:34 schestowitz; 2: your consciousness of your own identity [syn: self, ego]

23:34 schestowitz; 3: (psychoanalysis) the conscious mind

23:34 schestowitz; see 2 and 3

23:34 iphonix; its one guy that makes half baked linux videos

23:34 iphonix; he doesnt had anything to linux

23:34 iphonix; is like a leach

23:34 schestowitz; I would put it differently

23:34 schestowitz; he discovered "linux" years ago

23:34 schestowitz; and later he did videos on "gnu"

23:34 iphonix; lol

23:35 schestowitz; but he used them on occasion to interject bad politics

23:35 schestowitz; like second amendment and edge shit

23:35 schestowitz; all this weapon fetishes

23:35 schestowitz; and how we as gnu/linux users should think like trumpsters

23:35 DaemonFC; Walmart had black beans on sale for a while on clearance so I still have about 100 cans of those left. They had them for 25 cents each at that point.

23:35 XFaCE; schestowitz: Ariadne supports the second amendment and opposes gun control and isn't a libertarian, do you consider her bad politics too?

23:35 DaemonFC; So we're going to be eating a lot of those for a while.

23:35 iphonix; yes that too

23:35 iphonix; is a fake

23:35 XFaCE; schestowitz: Is she a Trumpster?

23:36 DaemonFC; All of these food disruptions are going to get annoying.

23:36 schestowitz; XFaCE: she dislikes him a lot afaik

23:36 iphonix; i watched a couple of his videos and was like dude really?!

23:36 XFaCE; Yeah but she agrees with some of the same of what you describe bad poltiics

23:36 XFaCE; how about stop being a partisan hack please?

23:36 schestowitz; me?

23:36 schestowitz; no

23:36 XFaCE; Yes

23:36 schestowitz; I like to all sides

23:36 schestowitz; and I can be judgemental of both

23:36 schestowitz; the important thing isn't wing per se

23:37 XFaCE; but you literally just brought up wing

23:37 schestowitz; callling me partisan s funnty

23:37 XFaCE; "libertarian", "trumpster"

23:37 schestowitz; because I get accused of either

23:37 schestowitz; people try to paint me on "some side"

23:37 XFaCE; I'm saying you are acting like a partisan with partisan arguments

23:37 schestowitz; XFaCE: the correlation does exist

23:37 schestowitz; the libertarians are more right-leaning in the US lexicon

23:38 iphonix; libertarians aka librals?

23:38 schestowitz; objectively speaking, arms have made the US unsafe for its inhabitants

23:38 iphonix; liberals

23:38 schestowitz; no

23:38 schestowitz; different things

23:38 schestowitz; similar words

23:38 XFaCE; I'm going to ask once... please stop doing that. Taking a word in what I've said and making a point that deverts from the point being made.

23:39 iphonix; different things but kinda close

23:39 schestowitz; if you go by the Libertarian Party in the US

23:39 schestowitz; then it's very far from the liberals

23:39 schestowitz; if you go policy by policy

23:40 XFaCE; Well that request being asked was ignored. Message received.

23:40 schestowitz; XFaCE: we can all calm down, I think it would be better if we chatted over voice. text conveys lack of understanding.

23:40 iphonix; Libertarian is a libral in sheep clothings

23:40 schestowitz; even the term liberal changed its meaning

23:41 schestowitz; it means Democrat Centrics now

23:41 schestowitz; prpgressive meant real left

23:41 schestowitz; but that too has been hijacked somewhat

23:41 schestowitz; by a bunch of loons, imho

23:41 schestowitz; the media muddles up the terms

23:41 schestowitz; it's a tactic

23:41 schestowitz; it harms communication

23:41 XFaCE; schestowitz: Yes, I can calm down and will, but I don't think that changes that your argumentation here was very disappointing. And I'm not saying I'm a paragon of debate here.

23:42 schestowitz; and divides people by making caricatures of them

23:42 schestowitz; so eventually people need to discard all those labels

23:42 schestowitz; XFaCE:see the definition of ego

23:42 XFaCE; <~schestowitz> like second amendment and edge shit

23:42 XFaCE; <~schestowitz> all this weapon fetishes

23:42 XFaCE; <~schestowitz> and how we as gnu/linux users should think like trumpsters

23:42 XFaCE; ---

23:42 XFaCE; <~schestowitz> and divides people by making caricatures of them

23:42 schestowitz; when I say ego I mean the 2

23:42 XFaCE; <~schestowitz> so eventually people need to discard all those labels

23:42 schestowitz; DTOS=self named

23:42 XFaCE; schestowitz: I'm talking about the man in the mirror

23:43 schestowitz; his weapons fetish is not a secret

23:43 schestowitz; look at the channel

23:43 schestowitz; it's a matter of public record

23:43 XFaCE; That is a caricature, and you used labels to describe that

23:43 schestowitz; he used software freedom to shoehorn "gun rights"

23:43 schestowitz; which I did not take too kindly tbh

23:43 XFaCE; You call it a fetish, that is your opinion.

23:44 XFaCE; Again, Ariadne holds similar views and is on a different end of the political spectrum.

23:44 schestowitz; maybe you want firearms too

23:44 XFaCE; What you are saying is the same exact crap you criticize

23:44 XFaCE; No I'm asking for consistency

23:44 schestowitz; you live in a country where shootings aren't as common as your sold neighbour

23:44 schestowitz; *sole

23:44 schestowitz; XFaCE: maybe for reactionary reasons

23:45 Ariadne; no

23:45 schestowitz; trans people sometimes need self-defence because they are surrounded by armed people who get incited by media rhetoric

23:45 XFaCE; I apologize Ariadne for pulling you in on this

23:45 Ariadne; not for reactionary reasons, i own several firearms and practice with them on a regular basis

23:45 Ariadne; it is a hobby

23:45 schestowitz; ah, ok

23:45 schestowitz; you once said you needed them for defence

23:46 schestowitz; in here it's illegal to possess them

23:46 Ariadne; i mean, when i was living in wyoming, it was certainly necessary for defense

23:46 schestowitz; the few who do have firearms seldom use them

23:46 Ariadne; bears, snakes, meth-addicted trumpists

23:47 Ariadne; schestowitz: yes, instead, brits just stab each other to death

23:47 iphonix; but trump is like war on drugs

23:47 XFaCE; https://twitter.com/ariadneconill/status/1421341372284604416

23:47 TR Bot; @andrew_rudick in other words, gun control is indeed about control: it is an anti-black, anti-indigenous, pro-settl https://t.co/x7vIwshazs

23:47 XFaCE; "in other words, gun control is indeed about control: it is an anti-black, anti-indigenous, pro-settler and pro-white form of maintaining the status quo.

23:47 XFaCE; it will not solve the problems that liberals claim it will solve. it does however serve to disarm the marginalized."

23:47 TR News; Tesco Meal Deal Price Increase: Inflation, Up Close https://tedium.co/2022/03/11/tesco-meal-deal-price-increase-analysis/

23:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/03/11/tesco-meal-deal-price-increase-analysis/

23:47 TR Bot; Tesco Meal Deal Price Increase: Inflation, Up Close

23:47 schestowitz; Ariadne: not many casualties

23:48 XFaCE; "this labor day, remember that organized labor gained traction because they were literally armed and literally fought armed battles with the state.

23:48 XFaCE; then be sure to look at all discussion of gun control in that framing, moving forward."

23:49 schestowitz; states have much better munitions these days, tanks too

23:49 XFaCE; So I guess consistency won't be found today

23:49 schestowitz; if they want to crush their own people, it's easy

23:49 MinceR; i'd keep and train with firearms too, if it was legal enough and i was rich enough

23:49 XFaCE; Time for supper I guess.

23:49 schestowitz; They have air support, too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing

23:49 TR Bot; 1985 MOVE bombing - Wikipedia

23:50 Ariadne; just because the cops are fascists and outgun the populace in terms of having more advanced munitions, doesn't mean the public should disarm itself

23:50 Ariadne; quite the opposite, really

23:50 *schestowitz checks if FSF ever wrote on 2nd am

23:50 Ariadne; why would the FSF write about gun rights

23:51 XFaCE; Ok there is consistency. Ariadne, I humbly apologize again.

23:51 Ariadne; guns are not particularly related to software freedom

23:51 iphonix; guns are good to kill one self

23:51 schestowitz; meh

23:51 schestowitz; overrated

23:51 schestowitz; you can jump off things

23:51 schestowitz; or hang

23:51 Ariadne; guns create a giant mess for somebody to clean up

23:51 iphonix; thats painfull

23:51 Ariadne; i wouldn't recommend it as a suicide method

23:51 MinceR; there are some guns that have computerized control, but they're rare

23:52 iphonix; hitler did it

23:52 schestowitz; https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2021/03/22/richard_stallman_back_on_fsf_board/

23:52 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2021/03/22/richard_stallman_back_on_fsf_board/

23:52 TR Bot; Richard Stallman says he has returned to the Free Software Foundation board of directors and won't be resigning again The Register Forums

23:52 schestowitz; "

23:52 schestowitz; > I've not seen or heard any "crazed ramblings of a conspiracy theorist" from Stallman.

23:52 MinceR; lol

23:52 schestowitz; his second amendment stuff comes pretty close to this mark

23:52 schestowitz; "

23:52 Ariadne; RMS also supports people having guns

23:53 Ariadne; for what i believe are similar reasons to the ones i have consistently outlined

23:53 schestowitz; "I thought ESR was the 2nd amendment free software guy?"

23:53 schestowitz; https://www.reddit.com/r/GoldandBlack/comments/lj5c2q/if_you_support_free_software_you_should_support/

23:53 TR Bot; If You Support Free Software, You Should Support Gun Rights : GoldandBlack

23:53 iphonix; I also supports people having guns just as long as they don't use them just like a deterrent

23:53 Ariadne; ESR is the guy who launders his white supremacist views through the lens of gun rights

23:54 iphonix; the same as nukes

23:54 iphonix; nukes are the best thing to prevent wars

23:54 Ariadne; dunno about that

23:54 Ariadne; see also: ukraine

23:54 Ariadne; see also: US bombings in somalia

23:54 iphonix; i was being sarcastic

23:55 MinceR; nukes aren't going away

23:55 schestowitz; 23 years ago by Microsoft Jack: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/1999/jan/21/onlinesupplement1

23:55 TR Bot; Armed, but not dangerous | Technology | The Guardian

23:55 MinceR; and their presence pretty much forces everyone to acquire them if they want to have rights

23:55 iphonix; its just a mater of time until nuclear war

23:55 MinceR; indeed

23:56 schestowitz; in our lifetime, for sure

23:56 schestowitz; we are getting near now

23:56 schestowitz; with impoverished economies, now rationining

23:56 MinceR; though it's possible for humans to exterminate themselves without a nuclear war, it's unlikely

23:56 schestowitz; *rationing

23:56 iphonix; its likelly just will take longer

23:56 schestowitz; we came VERY close MANY times

23:57 schestowitz; it's a miracle it did not happen since 1945

23:57 iphonix; but we are going in the right direction and accelarating

23:57 activelow; Ukraine "legalized bitcoin" and begging for guns, few days later boots on the ground

23:57 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls

23:57 TR Bot; List of nuclear close calls - Wikipedia

23:57 activelow; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-legalizes-bitcoin-btc-cryptocurrencies-033215045.html

23:57 TR Bot; Ukraine Legalizes Bitcoin (BTC) and Cryptocurrencies

23:58 iphonix; why do you think all the most intelligent people are making companies for space exploration

23:58 MinceR; not sure about "most intelligent"

23:58 activelow; this was the missing peace which caused me headache... bitcoin in ukraine

23:58 iphonix; at least smarter

23:59 Ariadne; associating intellect and wealth seems like a dangerously incorrect correlation to make

23:59 MinceR; indeed

23:59 activelow; which is absolutely plausible, because, Ukraine did receive energy at friendship pricing... similar to Iran with low energy prices where Bitcoin destabilized the energy grid

23:59 MinceR; what would their goal be anyway? getting off this planet with no hope of getting to a place where they could live for long, or developing their own ICBM technology?

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