● 11.19.08
●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: November 18th, 2008
Posted in IRC Logs at 5:31 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz
Enter the IRC channel now
MinceRgnNov 18 00:09schestowitzSymantec’s John Thompson to retire as CEO Nov 18 00:28PetoKraushmm, just letting you know: http://pk.gjhak.skNov 18 00:43schestowitzNice. What does Bergy have to do with this/Nov 18 00:45PetoKrausinspirationNov 18 00:47PetoKrausthe final kick was today’s paperNov 18 00:48schestowitzThis is nice: http://pk.gjhak.sk/old/Nov 18 00:48PetoKrausdaily telegraph or what was itNov 18 00:48schestowitzPaper?Nov 18 00:48schestowitzWhat did it say?Nov 18 00:48PetoKrausi can’t rememberNov 18 00:48PetoKraus though it kind of enraged meNov 18 00:48PetoKrausi’ll have to re-read it and write about it Nov 18 00:49PetoKrausanyway, tomorrow i gotta get up early. see youNov 18 00:49schestowitzOkay, I look forward to it. http://pk.gjhak.sk/pages/feed.xml “The requested URL /pages/feed.xml was not found on this server.” :-((Nov 18 00:51PetoKrausyup, i moved thatNov 18 00:51PetoKrausbad meNov 18 00:51PetoKrausNov 18 00:51PetoKrausit’s in /old/pages/feed.xmlNov 18 00:52schestowitzOK, got it, thanks.Nov 18 00:55*PetoKraus has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))Nov 18 00:56*shyam_k (n=user@117.196.134.105) has joined #boycottnovellNov 18 00:59*[H]omer has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))Nov 18 01:54*shyam_k has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))Nov 18 03:13*neighborlee has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))Nov 18 04:52*macabe has quit (“http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client”)Nov 18 06:49*macabe (i=43f0d869@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e2beb882f71f09fa) has joined #boycottnovellNov 18 06:54*kentma (n=user@host86-155-233-239.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovellNov 18 07:23kentmahey schestowitzNov 18 07:43*kentma waves to RoyNov 18 07:43schestowitzACKNov 18 08:46schestowitz“MSFT19.320.000.00%”Nov 18 08:51kentmahi roy – Did you post very few News items yesterday, btw?Nov 18 08:56schestowitzThere was a gap on Sat/Sun.Nov 18 08:57kentmaah, okay… no worries. I was just concerned that there might be a bug in my scriptNov 18 09:01MinceRoh haiNov 18 09:14*PetoKraus (n=pk@dsl-217-155-193-203.zen.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovellNov 18 09:59schestowitzBoycottt Novell protest videos: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=… http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lhATFqM0TngNov 18 10:56*[H]omer (n=[H]omer@amsterdam.perfect-privacy.com) has joined #boycottnovellNov 18 11:04*ChanServ gives channel operator status to [H]omerNov 18 11:04*PetoKraus has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))Nov 18 11:12schestowitzBoycott Novell motion pictures. http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/18/f…Nov 18 12:16kentmaschestowitz: london hospitals’ systems shut down by virusNov 18 12:18*PetoKraus (n=pk@cpc3-broo2-0-0-cust711.renf.cable.ntl.com) has joined #boycottnovellNov 18 12:18schestowitzWHAT?Nov 18 12:22schestowitzkentma: got URL?Nov 18 12:22schestowitzWas it pneumonia? ;-p or Blaster?Nov 18 12:23kentmanot sure – it just came up on News 24; barts, royal london and one other hospital affected apparently. It’s reported that systems have been down for 24 hours so farNov 18 12:23schestowitzNot surprising. Nov 18 12:25schestowitzThere are many Mac users in London; prepare for some big pressure for change.Nov 18 12:25schestowitz[not that GNU/Linux are a less vocal group]Nov 18 12:26kentmatrue; I’m waiting for some further confirmation of the story – it doesn’t seem to have hit ceefax or the web sites yet.Nov 18 12:27kentmaIncidentally, real piracy is becoming a major international issue around Somalia – it’s about time the music and film industries stopped trying to characterise people who make an illicit copy of a CD as akin in some way to murderous kidnappers making ransom demands for £millions.Nov 18 12:30schestowitzYes, I’ve been reading about that. I call them Mafiaa now.Nov 18 12:35*_doug (n=configna@unaffiliated/confignak) has joined #boycottnovellNov 18 12:53*kentma has quit (“Leaving.”)Nov 18 13:27_dougMicrosoft penguin .. Nov 18 13:40_doughttp://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/11/congr…Nov 18 13:40schestowitzYes, seen it. Maybe they “didn’t know”. Nov 18 13:41schestowitzLinux stole Microsoft’s mascot too.Nov 18 13:41schestowitzLook at the logo of Mono.Nov 18 13:42schestowitzWell, Mono is Microsoft’s anyway, so…Nov 18 13:42_douggot a URL for the mono mascot, or any other examples of MS borrowing the other fellas logo ?Nov 18 13:51schestowitzPosted Posted half an hour ago: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/18/…Nov 18 13:52MinceR“They are indeed open source, but they are not licensed by Microsoft to run anywhere but in SLED.”Nov 18 13:55MinceRdon’t people read the OSD anymore?Nov 18 13:56MinceR8. License Must Not Be Specific to a ProductNov 18 13:56schestowitzSpecific… define specific.Nov 18 13:56schestowitzSpecific implementation… or patent coverage? GPLv2 loophole..Nov 18 13:57schestowitzRonH and SteveB spent some time thinking this through… how to give the finger to their supplier’s movement and get away with it.Nov 18 13:57MinceRthe OSD is not a legal text, it must be interpreted according to its spirit.Nov 18 14:13schestowitzMicrosoft and Novell have no spirit. They have shareholders.Nov 18 14:14MinceRstill, this makes Mono non-open source.Nov 18 14:15_dougYahoo CEO Yang to step down ..Nov 18 14:17_doughttp://news.cnet.com/…Nov 18 14:17schestowitzPushed out?Nov 18 14:17schestowitzThe Microsoft cronies will take over.Nov 18 14:17_doug“Yang will resume his position as chief Yahoo”Nov 18 14:17_dougWhat’s a “chief Yahoo” Nov 18 14:18schestowitzSounds like Cheerleader. Yoohoo.Nov 18 14:20schestowitzMicrosoft has already pointed the company with its cronies… executives, board members, etc. He probably got pushed out by them.Nov 18 14:21*PetoKraus has quit (Remote closed the connection)Nov 18 14:25schestowitzUsing technology for a ‘good’ cause.. killing people.. Grenade camera to aid UK troops Nov 18 14:26MinceRthe planet is overpopulated anywayNov 18 14:26MinceRthe difficult part is choosing whom to killNov 18 14:26schestowitzI don’t agree.Nov 18 14:26schestowitzI’m in favour of birth control. Death is emotional and atrocious.Nov 18 14:27MinceRwhat some people do is atrocious tooNov 18 14:27MinceRkilling them would end the atrocitiesNov 18 14:27schestowitzDoes birth control reduce the population in China? Was it effective or are rules ignored?Nov 18 14:27schestowitzMinceR: the people who do atrocious things are a tiny minority.Nov 18 14:27schestowitzThe vast majority is working class or ‘peasants’.Nov 18 14:28MinceRstill, i’m in favor of killing ballmer, gates, jobs and their partners in crime.Nov 18 14:28schestowitzSuggesting death (goodness forbid!) is punishing those who are abused.Nov 18 14:28MinceRthey keep wasting valuable oxygen anyway.Nov 18 14:28schestowitzMinceR: you can’t say that here.Nov 18 14:28MinceRNov 18 14:28MinceRsorry.Nov 18 14:28schestowitzChanging subjects..Nov 18 14:29schestowitzI’m reading about Yang now…Nov 18 14:29schestowitzIt has already spread through the channels all morning. He planned it a month ago.Nov 18 14:29schestowitz[and I can't help recalling all the Microsoft executives leaving to join Yahoo. Yahoo board member Icahn and his 2 board cronies would approve, no? ]Nov 18 14:30schestowitzThat’s why I hate the US system. It should be hated by all Americans too, but they get told comforting words like “democracy”. It lulls them to sleep.Nov 18 14:31MinceRfunny how the reason for stepping down was said to be his failure to sell to microsoftNov 18 14:31MinceRi thought he didn’t want to do that.Nov 18 14:31schestowitzIntel, which instead of coming to OLPC and asking “how can we help?” went behind the project’s back and schemed to destroy if, as if they pondered, “how can we ruin?” That’s not healthy capitalism. It’s extreme, it’s predatory, it’s bad and it’s destructive. It’s not competition and it only harms the customers.Nov 18 14:31MinceRcapitalism around this planet has long ago stopped being healthyNov 18 14:31schestowitzMinceR: he didn’t want to do that. Microsoft had people all around him vexed up, probably even investors who sued (on whose behalf?)Nov 18 14:32MinceRperhaps the crisis will help motivate governments to fix itNov 18 14:32schestowitzThey sat on Yahoo for about 7 months and had people so distracted that managers left and projects got derailed that way.Nov 18 14:32schestowitzThe current crisis affects my family very negatively troo.Nov 18 14:33schestowitz*tooNov 18 14:33schestowitzPeople who I speak to lost a lot. They just don’t talk about it openly, just discreetly.Nov 18 14:33schestowitzNow you know who picks up the bill for NASA missions, ‘war’ in Iraq, tax Microsoft refuses to pay, etc. Nov 18 14:34schestowitzMicrosoft’s downgrade of Vista Capable specs ticked off HP Nov 18 14:35schestowitz“I see from the announcement on the OEM website that the rumor I referred to in my earlier message is indeed true.”Nov 18 14:36schestowitz“You should understand that for a partner who has made a significant investment in meeting the Vista Capable requirement we find it both disappointing and troubling that you would make such a decision without first consulting HP, your biggest global partner.”Nov 18 14:36schestowitz“I am beyond being upset here. This was totally mismanaged by Intel and Microsoft. What a mess. Now we have an upset partner, Microsoft destroyed credibility, as well as my own credibility shot.”Nov 18 14:36schestowitzIn other news, ARM and Adobe join up [on GNU/Linux devices] Nov 18 14:37schestowitzhttp://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/200…Nov 18 14:42schestowitzBN in the press: http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/1…Nov 18 14:45schestowitzhttp://techdirt.com/articles/2… “While lots of folks are trying to blame one single thing (free markets, regulations, greed, poor people, rich people, bankers, mortgage lenders, hedge funds, short sellers, the President, Congress, etc.), the truth is that almost all of those explanations aren’t just wrong, they’re highly misleading.”Nov 18 14:57*PetoKraus (n=pk@cpc3-broo2-0-0-cust711.renf.cable.ntl.com) has joined #boycottnovellNov 18 14:58schestowitzSJVN says: With Yang out, is Microsoft in at Yahoo? Nov 18 15:00schestowitzBN broke the news :-) Hurtful Google Docs Study Tied To Ex-Microsoft Employees Nov 18 15:04schestowitz“In a comment on Cutts’ blog, Roy Schestowitz, a doctoral candidate in medical biophysics at Manchester University, free software advocate, and co-editor of BoycottNovell.com, linked to a post on his site that offered an additional explanation for the findings: Two of ClickStream’s employees, CEO and co-founder Cameron Turner and senior research analyst Kim Anderson, used to work at Microsoft.”Nov 18 15:04schestowitz Burma blogger jailed for 20 years Nov 18 15:13*neighborlee (n=neighbor@unaffiliated/neighborlee) has joined #boycottnovellNov 18 15:30schestowitzDWW… http://beranger.org/index.php?page=diary&… “While there is a chance that someone would take over (prendre le relais, that is), I am not sure that this will happen soon enough. Will Susan have the time and inspiration to do it? Is Caitlyn willing to help, by chance? Would someone else (say, Eugenia L-Q) wish to contribute?”Nov 18 15:35schestowitzneighborlee: check out http://boycottnovell.com/200…Nov 18 15:36schestowitzOr http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2008/11/…Nov 18 15:36neighborleeok thxNov 18 15:36*kentma (n=user@host86-155-233-239.range86-155.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovellNov 18 15:37neighborleeWhy in hell is Ubuntu installing this stuff by default, I don’t know. It’s like asking the local protection racket over for tea Nov 18 16:20_dougWhere’s the governance for the next time I’m a victem of ‘identity fraud’ and my bank account is emptiedNov 18 16:21schestowitzThe engineers… of the bank… not the programmers of the software.Nov 18 16:22schestowitzkentma said he reading about London hospitals or something getting shut down due to viruses.Nov 18 16:23schestowitzThis reminded me of a Washington/Seattle hospital becoming a massive botnet.Nov 18 16:23schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/1…Nov 18 16:24schestowitzPC virus forces three London hospitals into computer shutdown “Three London Hospitals shut down their computer systems on Tuesday in response to a computer virus infection.”Nov 18 16:24schestowitzShould Microsoft be held liable?Nov 18 16:25schestowitzShould Microsoft’s not be held liable for people likely dead or severely ill as a result of this?Nov 18 16:25schestowitz“The infection at Barts and London Trust was reportedly caused by the Mytob worm, which contains built-in spyware functionality. Mytob spreads by email and has the ability to plant backdoor software on compromised Windows PCs.”Nov 18 16:25schestowitzI guess this means the cracker got a copy of the NHS databases too.Nov 18 16:26schestowitzSo where does a cybercriminal download the NHS torrents now?Nov 18 16:26_dougliable: but all the software ‘technology’ is completly complaint, the lawyers have been through it with a finecomb Nov 18 16:27schestowitz“When Java was not Open Source, it was not installed by default. Wine is not installed by default. Mono is installed by default, if we want it or not. This needs to change. If you want to build or run mono applications, then you can install it – it is your computer and we will not stop you.”Nov 18 16:28*PetoKraus has quit (“Leaving”)Nov 18 16:29schestowitzMiserable Republicans use lawyers: Trial of Palin E-Mail Hacker Delayed Nov 18 16:39neighborleeschestowitz, http://forums.fedoraforum.org/sh… Nov 18 16:45schestowitzHe’s kidding, right?Nov 18 16:45schestowitzDoes he not know that OIN is for the kernel only??Nov 18 16:45neighborleeLOL yeah indeed ;))Nov 18 16:46schestowitzThe possibility of Norway-Microsoft corruption resurfaces: http://ostatic.com/177021-blog/norway-pledges…Nov 18 16:54*_doug has quit ()Nov 18 16:55schestowitzneighborlee: any more links to thread suppression in Ubuntu (re: Mono)?Nov 18 16:57neighborleenot yetNov 18 16:57neighborleebut its quite good that it can be shown that Im not the only one saying such things, and that Im n ot a per se a schestowitz ‘folllower’ ( which they think gives them ammunition only because of attempts to show you as just a schill ) as can be seen from my very early disproval of mono on fedora forum.Nov 18 17:00schestowitzMe? Shill?Nov 18 17:00schestowitzFor who? ‘Freedom’?Nov 18 17:00neighborleehehNov 18 17:01schestowitzBN enjoys autonomy. Neither Shane and I are even affiliated with the FSF.Nov 18 17:02schestowitzShane isn’t even working in tech.Nov 18 17:03schestowitzHow low Microsoft has sunk for publicity: http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Declare_… ( Declare yourself a PC for just $36.95 )Nov 18 17:10schestowitzA shirt to affiliated oneself with a multiple-times convicted monopolist.Nov 18 17:10neighborleeschestowitz, not sure its a trend or even how long its been this way, but #fedora atm is at #450 users so I wonder if the ‘no mono in fedora ‘ has had some impact, hey who knows ;),,soon I shall make sure to have a link at my website too, which isn’t as popular as BN on any level but Im happy to add to be a oss supporter Nov 18 17:13*anivar (i=75c069dc@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5339b6983a642fbb) has joined #boycottnovellNov 18 17:14anivarschestowitz: see my blog http://anivar.movingrepublic.org/2008/nat…Nov 18 17:14anivari used some content u sent 4 an immediate needNov 18 17:14anivarhope you can understandNov 18 17:15neighborleeanivar, hi there..go you for stricking up for oss ,,that must have been hairy dealing with ;))Nov 18 17:15neighborleesticking up for….:)Nov 18 17:16anivarneighborlee: Nov 18 17:18trmancoschestowitz, HiNov 18 17:18trmancodid I stay online all day?Nov 18 17:18schestowitzHey, anivar.Nov 18 17:19schestowitzIt was funny to see RMS’ reaction to the ‘Barf’ thing.Nov 18 17:20schestowitzIt was put in a context where the “Silver Light” phrase was associated with revolution.Nov 18 17:20schestowitzAnd yes… there’s a real product called BarfNov 18 17:21schestowitzI got it royalty-free from my usual source of images.Nov 18 17:21schestowitztrmanco: yes, but I left for a while and I need to go to the gym by the end of the dayNov 18 17:21twitterGWB let’s you know what he really thinks http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/…Nov 18 17:22trmancook thanks for confirming, look like my bnc is working Nov 18 17:22*PetoKraus (n=pk@cpc3-broo2-0-0-cust711.renf.cable.ntl.com) has joined #boycottnovellNov 18 17:22twitterhttp://www.rotten.com/library/…Nov 18 17:22twitterhi, anivar!Nov 18 17:23anivarschestowitz: heheNov 18 17:24schestowitzanivar: I’ll cite this later.Nov 18 17:24schestowitz[your blog]Nov 18 17:24schestowitzThere’s something urgent now.Nov 18 17:24anivartwitter: hiNov 18 17:24twitterYou say, ” You all are aware of the 2 major campaigns in which Free Software community in India fought Last 1.5 Years. The Campaign for Document Freedom and Ongoing Campaign against software patents. Novell was always opposite to the Free Software Movement’s position”Nov 18 17:32twitterthat’s sad news. Thanks for sharing it.Nov 18 17:32schestowitzNovell doesn’t care about FreedomNov 18 17:36schestowitzSuSE does, but it’s a minority in Novell.Nov 18 17:36twitterI understand Novell is like that, but it’s news to me they are doing M$’s bidding in other countries.Nov 18 17:37schestowitzS.u.S.E. as it was at the time could be invited to sponsors and promote itself, but Novell with S.u.S.E. is like a python with Bambi in its belly and a Godzilla (Microsoft) holding it by the hand.Nov 18 17:37twitterIt seems crazy that they would spend money opposing ODF and promoting software patents in India while they are closing offices around the world.Nov 18 17:38schestowitztwitter: they dispute going the way of the dodoNov 18 17:41schestowitzSee http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/1…Nov 18 17:41schestowitzBasically, Novell spins it.Nov 18 17:42schestowitzThey say Novell is paid by MS. That’s spin.Nov 18 17:42schestowitzMicrosoft gives coupons to encourage people to get a distribution that passes royalties to Microsoft.Nov 18 17:42schestowitzMicrosoft actually calls these coupons “patent royalties” now.Nov 18 17:43schestowitzNovell (Hauser FUDmesier… see BN for details) tries to spin this as Microsoft paying Novell for patents.Nov 18 17:43schestowitzThey dress up a wolf as a sheepNov 18 17:43*PetoKraus has quit (“Leaving”)Nov 18 17:45kentmait’s so hard to get the ears into the costume Nov 18 17:45*kentma used to have a small flock of sheep…Nov 18 17:45*PetoKraus (n=pk@cpc3-broo2-0-0-cust711.renf.cable.ntl.com) has joined #boycottnovellNov 18 17:46schestowitzHeh. Funny typo there. FUDmesier -> Fudmeister . http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/…Nov 18 17:55*alan (n=chatzill@89.100.117.96) has joined #boycottnovellNov 18 18:05schestowitzHi, alan Nov 18 18:06alanAlohaNov 18 18:06alanI was just wondering if you knew that microvell is a registered companyNov 18 18:06schestowitzLet me check.Nov 18 18:06alanhttp://www.microvell.net/Nov 18 18:07schestowitzOh my god! I didn’t know.Nov 18 18:07alanThey may not appreciate being caught in any crossfire is allNov 18 18:07schestowitzDo you know them?Nov 18 18:07schestowitzIs there also a Novellsoft?Nov 18 18:08alanWho knowsNov 18 18:08schestowitzhttp://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_repo… “Date first seenAugust 2000″Nov 18 18:08schestowitzDid you hear anything from them?Nov 18 18:08*alan has quit (Client Quit)Nov 18 18:09schestowitzEeek. http://toolbar.netcraft.com/…Nov 18 18:09schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?source…Nov 18 18:09schestowitzSince he left, he might be associated with the company.Nov 18 18:10schestowitzThere is another one: http://www.microvellnetworks.co.uk/Nov 18 18:18schestowitzalan is from Ireland on the face of it.Nov 18 18:18twitterI doubt anyone will confuse your fictional company with a real one. The first page has no real links. You might email them to see if they still exist.Nov 18 18:29twitterThe second page first shows up in the internet archive on January 2008. http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://w…Nov 18 18:31twitterYou may have created your MicroVell logo before they did. In fact, they may be a troll page that copies you intentionally.Nov 18 18:33MinceRFudweiser?Nov 18 18:33twitterIt’s strange that a company working with Novell network stuff would only have a page starting in 2008. Here’s some of their supposed work, http://www.microvellnetworks….Nov 18 18:34twitterMicrovell.net has been around for a while, http://web.archive.org/web/*/htt…Nov 18 18:35twitternope, first page is spam site http://web.archive.org/web/20010…Nov 18 18:36twitterThey had the same sucky image based site by 2004 http://web.archive.org/web/200406032…Nov 18 18:37twitterLogo is obviously different in 2003 http://web.archive.org/web/20030…Nov 18 18:38schestowitzMinceR: typosNov 18 18:38twitterthey are from Miami according to the 2003 page.Nov 18 18:39schestowitztwitter: does Microvell Networks vend Novell stuff?!?!Nov 18 18:39twitternot in 2003Nov 18 18:39schestowitzMiami, eh? That’s goodNov 18 18:39schestowitzI thought alan might be related to the company/iesNov 18 18:39twitterThe UK site says it’s in the UK, but it is from 2008 and violates the Miami company unless they are the same person and moved and picked up Novell skills after year 2000. UNLIKELY.Nov 18 18:41twitterHere’s another older page http://web.archive.org/web/2003092…Nov 18 18:41twitterClearly a different group from the UK organization.Nov 18 18:41twitterThe UK company only has an email contact but claims, ” Microvell Networks Ltd is located in the heart of the North West. Situateq”Nov 18 18:42schestowitzSeems like consulting.Nov 18 18:45schestowitzIs there a Novell connection anywhere?Nov 18 18:45schestowitzLike GWAVA?Nov 18 18:45twitterJust the clients.Nov 18 18:46twitterHere’s where they say they are http://www.freeindex.co.uk/profile(Microvel…Nov 18 18:48schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/18/mi…Nov 18 18:50twittermore info is there too, they claim to have been around since 2002Nov 18 18:50twitterhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&a… turns up nothing.Nov 18 18:50schestowitzyour stalker in on your tail in BN again (new comment)Nov 18 18:51twittergoing to look at trademark article you might check out http://en-gb.facebook.com/people…Nov 18 18:51twitterdon’t know if that person is related. There’s a phone number for microvell networks if you want to find out how they feel about using the name of a Miami company.Nov 18 18:54twitterIn any case, people doing business with Novell have much bigger problems than their name now.Nov 18 18:56schestowitzYes, I agree.Nov 18 18:57trmancohttp://failblog.files.wordpress.com/…Nov 18 19:02schestowitzThis one has real-world impact: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/1…Nov 18 19:10schestowitzanivar: can you mail me a photo of yours? I’m doing a post.Nov 18 19:12schestowitzNever mind, I post now.Nov 18 19:18*shyam_k has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))Nov 18 19:22*anivar has quit (“http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client”)Nov 18 19:31*schestowitz gotta run (literally)Nov 18 19:36twitterenjoy it.Nov 18 19:37twitterHere’s a M$ quote that should be used more frequently. “Mind Control: To control mental output you to have to control mental input. Take control of the channels by which developers receive information, then they can only think about the things you tell them. Thus, you control mindshare!”Nov 18 19:58twitterfrom the SLOG.DOC http://docs.google.com/Present?docid=d…Nov 18 19:59*mib_abdy06 (i=89419005@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-52a9051fd0180a39) has joined #boycottnovellNov 18 20:15*mib_abdy06 (i=89419005@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-52a9051fd0180a39) has left #boycottnovellNov 18 20:16*amd-linux (i=543933d7@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4a383805b09035da) has joined #boycottnovellNov 18 20:25*amd-linux has quit (Client Quit)Nov 18 20:29twitterHere are a few names to replace MicrovellNov 18 20:30twitterMicroval, http://www.patientsville.com/m…Nov 18 20:30twitterno confusing that, eh? Who would mistake the fake Linux company for a contraceptive with side effects that include pregnancy and retarded babies?Nov 18 20:32twitterMicroveil nothing shows up here http://www.google.com/search?q=microveil&…Nov 18 20:33twitterof course, you could always use MicroNovellNov 18 20:35neighborleehttp://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/inde… +1Nov 18 23:04schestowitzWrist Computer Dumps Windows for GNU/Linux Only: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/N…Nov 18 23:06schestowitzhttp://computerworld.com/action/ar… ( McColo takedown: Internet vigilantism or online Neighborhood Watch? )Nov 18 23:44*neighborlee has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))Nov 18 23:57
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