IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, January 11, 2023

beginning of new day, January 11

00:02 TR News; (NEW): Endless OS 5.0 Beta Is Here with a New Desktop Interface and Wayland Support http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/10/Endless_OS_5_0_Beta_Is_Here_with_a_New_Desktop_Interface_and_Wa.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/10/Endless_OS_5_0_Beta_Is_Here_with_a_New_Desktop_Interface_and_Wa.gmi

00:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines Endless OS 5.0 Beta Is Here with a New Desktop Interface and Wayland Support

00:03 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/10/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/10/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi

00:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers

00:03 TR News; (NEW): 6 Linux and Open-Source Technologies That Made the Steam Deck Possible http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/10/6_Linux_and_Open_Source_Technologies_That_Made_the_Steam_Deck_P.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/10/6_Linux_and_Open_Source_Technologies_That_Made_the_Steam_Deck_P.gmi

00:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines 6 Linux and Open-Source Technologies That Made the Steam Deck Possible

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00:03 TR News; (NEW): GNOME 42.8 Enables Atomic Mode-Setting for NVIDIA/GBM, Improves Wayland and AMDGPU Support http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/10/GNOME_42_8_Enables_Atomic_Mode_Setting_for_NVIDIA_GBM_Improves_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/10/GNOME_42_8_Enables_Atomic_Mode_Setting_for_NVIDIA_GBM_Improves_.gmi

00:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNOME 42.8 Enables Atomic Mode-Setting for NVIDIA/GBM, Improves Wayland and AMDGPU Support

00:05 TR News; </ul> </li> <li> <h3 id="________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________distros">Distributions and Operating Systems</h3> <ul> <li><h5><a href="https://9to5linux.com/endless-os-5-0-beta-is-here-with-a-new-deskto

00:05 TR Bot; OS 5.0 Beta Is Here with a New Desktop Interface and Wayland Support - 9to5Linux

00:09 TR News; "Once youve seen a strandbeest, its hard to forget the mesmerizing movement of its mechanical limbs." https://hackaday.com/2023/01/10/human-powered-strandbeest/ | Source: Hackaday

00:09 TR Bot; Strandbeest | Hackaday

00:10 TR News; tsa https://www.techdirt.com/2023/01/09/appeals-court-hands-immunity-to-tsa-agents-who-forced-man-to-delete-his-recording-of-them/ | Source: Techdirt

00:10 TR Bot; Court Hands Immunity To TSA Agents Who Forced Man To Delete His Recording Of Them | Techdirt

00:12 TR News; housing https://truthout.org/articles/the-rent-is-too-high-warren-bowman-ask-biden-to-fight-crushing-housing-costs/ | Source: TruthOut

00:12 TR Bot; The Rent Is Too High: Warren, Bowman Ask Biden to Fight Crushing Housing Costs - Truthout

00:14 TR News; nurses https://truthout.org/articles/7000-new-york-nurses-go-on-strike-decrying-unimaginable-working-conditions/ | Source: TruthOut

00:14 TR Bot; 7,000 New York Nurses Go on Strike, Decrying Unimaginable Working Conditions - Truthout

00:16 TR News; lawbots https://www.techdirt.com/2023/01/09/ai-lawyer-will-represent-client-in-traffic-court-threatening-nonexistent-market-for-traffic-court-lawyers/ | Source: Techdirt

00:16 TR Bot; Lawyer Will Represent Client In Traffic Court, Threatening Nonexistent Market For Traffic Court Lawyers | Techdirt

00:18 TR News; "The Dutch authorities have issued a TV broadcast license to the independent Russian news outlet TV Rain" https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/01/09/tv-rain-receives-broadcasting-license-in-the-netherlands | Source: Meduza

00:18 TR Bot; NO TITLE

00:19 TR News; Winamp 2023 gemini://gemini.smallweb.space/gemlog/20230110-winamp.gmi

00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

00:20 TR News; "I started blogging around this time two years ago and one of the things I've found is that having just a little pressure to have something interesting to share can be a good motivator in getting things done. With my final semester of school just now starting and wanting to finish strong" gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2023-01-10-new-year-new-blog.gmi

00:20 TR News; Embracing Degrowth gemini://arcanesciences.com/gemlog/23-01-10/

00:21 TR News; 4:3 isn't bad gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/43-isnt-bad.gmi

00:21 TR News; "retaliatory" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/01/09/a-retaliatory-media-operation | Source: Meduza

00:21 TR Bot; NO TITLE

00:22 TR News; >What to expect from the Raspberry Pi Foundation in 2023 https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-foundation-plans-2023/ | Source: Raspberry Pi

00:22 TR Bot; What to expect from the Raspberry Pi Foundation in 2023 - Raspberry Pi

00:23 TR News; "foundation-run" https://telex.hu/english/2023/01/10/well-have-to-see-whats-going-to-happen-navracsics-on-the-exclusion-of-foundation-run-universities-from-erasmus-programs | Source: Telex (Hungary)

00:23 TR Bot; Telex: "We'll have to see what's going to happen" Navracsics on the exclusion of foundation-run universities from Erasmus programs

00:23 TR News; Social control media https://www.commondreams.org/news/social-media-brazil-attack | Source: Common Dreams

00:23 TR Bot; Watchdog Says Social Media Giants 'Directly Aided' Fascist Insurrection in Brazil

00:24 TR News; Amateur Radio Log 2023-01-10 Mid-day (Fairbanks, AK, US) gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20230110-0.gmi

00:24 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D470.jpg

00:24 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D803.jpg

00:25 TR News; Rent https://www.commondreams.org/news/rent-protections | Source: Common Dreams

00:25 TR Bot; Bowman, Warren Push Biden to Protect Renters From Corporate Price Gouging

00:26 TR News; Nurses https://www.commondreams.org/news/nurses-strike-new-york-city | Source: Common Dreams

00:26 TR Bot; As 7,000+ Nurses Strike in NYC, 'Greedy Hospitals' Told to Approve Fair Deal

00:26 TR News; Embezzlement by thieves https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/big-pharma-stock-buybacks-rd | Source: Common Dreams

00:26 TR Bot; Opinion | When Big Pharma Spends More on Stock Buybacks Than R&D | Common Dreams

00:28 TR News; rotary https://hackaday.com/2023/01/09/clever-mechanism-makes-a-linear-control-from-a-rotary-hall-sensor/ | Source: Hackaday

00:28 TR Bot; Mechanism Makes A Linear Control From A Rotary Hall Sensor | Hackaday

00:29 TR News; HEY HI buzzword again... they mean algorithm" https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/01/09/united-russia-uses-ai-and-special-algorithms-to-purge-war-critics-from-party-database | Source: Meduza

00:29 TR Bot; NO TITLE

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00:30 TR News; Pseudoscience like facial recognition... which is extremely inaccurate at scale (falsely marketed) https://digit.site36.net/2023/01/10/ai-act-german-government-in-favour-of-facial-recognition-but-against-lie-detectors/ | Source: Site36

00:30 TR Bot; AI Act: German government in favour of facial recognition, but against lie detectors Security Architectures in the EU

00:30 TR News; Everything corporate https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/01/09/free-speech-and-academic-freedom-in-the-american-corporate-university/ | Source: Counter Punch

00:30 TR Bot; Speech and Academic Freedom in the American Corporate University - CounterPunch.org

00:31 TR News; income distribution https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/01/10/contrary-to-the-nyt-the-problem-in-an-aging-society-is-income-distribution/ | Source: Counter Punch

00:31 TR Bot; to the NYT, the Problem in An Aging Society is Income Distribution - CounterPunch.org

00:34 TR News; FocusWriter 1.8.4 released https://gottcode.org/focuswriter/

00:34 TR Bot; FocusWriter

00:34 TR News; Tracking sleep quality with embedded ML and the Arduino Nano 33 BLE Sense | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/01/10/tracking-sleep-quality-with-embedded-ml-and-the-arduino-nano-33-ble-sense/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2023/01/10/tracking-sleep-quality-with-embedded-ml-and-the-arduino-nano-33-ble-sense/

00:34 TR Bot; Tracking sleep quality with embedded ML and the Arduino Nano 33 BLE Sense | Arduino Blog

00:35 TR News; This interactive art installation is a study in magnetism | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/01/10/this-interactive-art-installation-is-a-study-in-magnetism/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2023/01/10/this-interactive-art-installation-is-a-study-in-magnetism/

00:35 TR Bot; This interactive art installation is a study in magnetism | Arduino Blog

00:36 TR News; No, NOT "right now" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=stj-5M08lfQ

00:36 TR Bot; HDR Gaming Is Coming To Linux Right Now!! - Invidious

00:36 TR News; The SMART Home is a DUMB idea, and a privacy and security NIGHTMARE - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=l6TOCUfkAmQ | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/l6TOCUfkAmQ

00:36 TR Bot; The SMART Home is a DUMB idea, and a privacy and security NIGHTMARE - Invidious

00:37 TR News; Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 beta 11 https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-beta-11 Source: Godot Engine | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-beta-11

00:37 TR Bot; Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 beta 11

00:43 TR News; Copy, Cut And Paste On The Command Line With Clipboard - Linux Uprising Blog https://www.linuxuprising.com/2023/01/copy-cut-and-paste-on-command-line-with.html Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxuprising.com/2023/01/copy-cut-and-paste-on-command-line-with.html

00:43 TR Bot; Copy, Cut And Paste On The Command Line With Clipboard - Linux Uprising Blog

00:43 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/today_s_howtos.gmi

00:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

00:44 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show an overview of OpenMandriva Lx ROME 23.01 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rf761TXOn8Q

00:44 TR Bot; OpenMandriva Lx ROME 23.01 overview | ROME, the OpenMandriva rolling edition - Invidious

00:46 TR News; "An attacker could exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2023/01/10/microsoft-releases-january-2023-security-updates

00:46 TR Bot; Microsoft Releases January 2023 Security Updates | CISA

00:46 TR News; "An attacker could exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2023/01/10/adobe-releases-security-updates-multiple-products

00:46 TR Bot; Adobe Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products | CISA

00:47 TR News; This is 100% about Microsoft and Windows, but the title does not say this https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2023/01/10/cisa-adds-two-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog

00:47 TR Bot; CISA Adds Two Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA

00:50 TR News; Microsoft and its media "assets" are tying to change the subject and blame "Linux" etc. for risk, never mind if Microsoft puts back doors in things and isn't patching actively-exploited flaws https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-kubernetes-clusters-hacked-in-malware-campaign-via-postgresql/

00:50 TR Bot; Microsoft: Kubernetes clusters hacked in malware campaign via PostgreSQL

00:55 TR News; (NEW): Security and Microsoft FUD http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Security_and_Microsoft_FUD.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Security_and_Microsoft_FUD.gmi

00:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security and Microsoft FUD

00:55 TR News; (NEW): Videos: OpenMandriva Lx ROME 23.01, Privacy, and HDR Gaming in GNU/Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Videos_OpenMandriva_Lx_ROME_23_01_Privacy_and_HDR_Gaming_in_GNU.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Videos_OpenMandriva_Lx_ROME_23_01_Privacy_and_HDR_Gaming_in_GNU.gmi

00:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos: OpenMandriva Lx ROME 23.01, Privacy, and HDR Gaming in GNU/Linux

00:55 TR News; (NEW): Converseen 0.9.10.0 with Improved WebP Support http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Converseen_0_9_10_0_with_Improved_WebP_Support.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Converseen_0_9_10_0_with_Improved_WebP_Support.gmi

00:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Converseen 0.9.10.0 with Improved WebP Support

00:55 TR News; WordPress is Turning 20: Let's Celebrate! - WordPress News https://wordpress.org/news/2023/01/wordpress-is-turning-20-lets-celebrate/ Source: WordPress | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//wordpress.org/news/2023/01/wordpress-is-turning-20-lets-celebrate/

00:55 TR Bot; WordPress is Turning 20: Lets Celebrate! WordPress News

00:58 TR News; The distinctive smell in the air after it rains. https://www.davidrevoy.com/article951/the-distinctive-smell-in-the-air-after-it-rains

00:58 TR Bot; The distinctive smell in the air after it rains. - David Revoy

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00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

00:59 TR News; MOVE TO RUST!! IT IS ALL ABOUT SECURITY !!!! https://blog.rust-lang.org/2023/01/10/cve-2022-46176.html

00:59 TR Bot; Security advisory for Cargo (CVE-2022-46176) | Rust Blog

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00:59 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi and Arduino http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_and_Arduino.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_and_Arduino.gmi

00:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi and Arduino

1 AM, January 11

01:00 TR News; "In late 2021, LWN covered a plan to eliminate the Python global interpreter lock (GIL), thus improving the language's thread-level concurrency. This plan has now been codified as PEP 703, which includes an extensive discussion of the changes that would be made." https://lwn.net/Articles/919563/

01:00 TR Bot; 703: Making the Python global interpreter lock optional [LWN.net]

01:01 TR News; "Thunar, the Xfce4 file manager, has a bug that is underflows the time remaining for a file copy since ten years now (bugzilla, gitlab). Happy birthday!" https://daniel-lange.com/archives/177-Happy-tenth-birthday,-dear-Thunar-bug.html

01:01 TR Bot; Happy tenth birthday, dear Thunar bug | Daniel Lange's blog

01:03 TR News; linux-rt-devel.git https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rt/linux-rt-devel.git/

01:03 TR Bot; kernel/git/rt/linux-rt-devel.git - The current development -RT tree

01:04 TR News; Vintage aircraft instrument becomes an USB peripheral https://blog.adafruit.com/2023/01/10/vintage-aircraft-instrument-becomes-an-usb-peripheral/

01:04 TR Bot; Vintage aircraft instrument becomes an USB peripheral Adafruit Industries Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!

01:05 TR News; Making a magnetic cocoa stirrer https://blog.adafruit.com/2023/01/10/making-a-magnetic-cocoa-stirrer-lifehacks-cooking/

01:05 TR Bot; Making a magnetic cocoa stirrer #LifeHacks #Cooking Adafruit Industries Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!

01:05 TR News; (NEW): Mabox Linux is a throwback to old-school Linux with a new-school look and feel http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Mabox_Linux_is_a_throwback_to_old_school_Linux_with_a_new_schoo.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Mabox_Linux_is_a_throwback_to_old_school_Linux_with_a_new_schoo.gmi

01:05 TR Bot; Tux Machines Mabox Linux is a throwback to old-school Linux with a new-school look and feel

01:06 TR News; This is NOT an article. It's an INTEL AD. Complete with all the marketing material/brochure. https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-xeon-sapphire-rapids-max

01:06 TR Bot; Launches 4th Gen Xeon Scalable "Sapphire Rapids", Xeon CPU Max Series Review - Phoronix

01:07 TR News; "I was eager to see some independent numbers." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1367159-intel-launches-4th-gen-xeon-scalable-sapphire-rapids-xeon-cpu-max-series independent? So that's definitely NOT the right site. http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/techrights-statement-on-phoronix/

01:07 TR Bot; Launches 4th Gen Xeon Scalable "Sapphire Rapids", Xeon CPU Max Series - Phoronix Forums

01:07 TR Bot; Techrights Statement on Phoronix | Techrights

01:08 TR News; Some business graphs for 2022 https://jvns.ca/blog/2023/01/10/some-business-graphs-for-2022/ Source: Julia Evans | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jvns.ca/blog/2023/01/10/some-business-graphs-for-2022/

01:08 TR Bot; Some business graphs for 2022

01:09 TR News; CentOS Board Meeting Recap, December 2022 https://blog.centos.org/2023/01/centos-board-meeting-recap-december-2022/

01:09 TR Bot; Board Meeting Recap, December 2022 Blog.CentOS.org

01:10 TR News; "Heres my (thirty-ninth) monthly but brief update about the activities Ive done in the F/L/OSS world." https://utkarsh2102.com/posts/foss-in-dec-22/

01:10 TR Bot; Activites in December 2022 utkarsh2102

01:14 TR News; (NEW): Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 beta 11 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Godot_Engine_Dev_snapshot_Godot_4_0_beta_11.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Godot_Engine_Dev_snapshot_Godot_4_0_beta_11.gmi

01:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 beta 11

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01:16 TR News; People recommend moving to GNU/Linux (in the comments) https://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-57143.php

01:16 TR Bot; Windows ends support for Windows 7, Windows 8.1 is getting the axe too - comments

01:18 psydruid; Windows 10 getting the axe in 3 years

01:18 psydruid; And then it will be the time for Microsoft moles to appear

01:19 psydruid; As Windows 11 will shine on fully compliant Securely Backdoored hardware

01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

01:21 TR News; Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2023-01-10) https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/HRZIN2NZ5M2IADTGRU6BYN2A5V7XN44Y/

01:21 TR Bot; Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2023-01-10) - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists

01:22 TR News; Vanilla OS The Future Of Linux Part 2 | Immutable - Solid - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UuiuTqe57AY | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/UuiuTqe57AY

01:22 TR Bot; Vanilla OS The Future Of Linux Part 2 | Immutable & Solid - Invidious

01:22 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], I don't know who uses Grindr in Chicago.

01:23 DaemonFC; You'd think between being baited in by criminals for armed robberies and carjackings and the police sting ops, people would know better than to have it on their phone.

01:23 TR News; Coding Is Easy #programming #coding - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=LoBYgzBI3P0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/LoBYgzBI3P0

01:23 TR Bot; Coding Is Easy #programming #coding - Invidious

01:24 TR News; This is mostly promoting Microsoft agenda of plagiarism https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2jxuzI3xRFY

01:24 TR Bot; ChatGPT | The Revolutionary AI Chatbot That Will Transform Your Life! - Invidious

01:25 TR News; "This video looks at the new Linux Mint MATE edition, kernel, RAM, software, and other considerations." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=No3kERF3G5c

01:25 TR Bot; Linux Mint MATE 21.1 - Invidious

01:25 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2023/01/09/nicor-files-request-for-321-million-rate-hike-on-illinois-customers-peoples-gas-also-files-rate-hike-request/

01:25 TR Bot; Nicor files request for $321 million rate hike on Illinois customers, Peoples Gas also files rate hike request

01:25 DaemonFC; Bad time to be using natural gas/

01:25 DaemonFC; "The CUB said Nicor Gas customers have seen their delivery rates increase by about 77%, or more than $500 million, in the last five years.

01:25 DaemonFC; "

01:25 TR News; Wholesomedonut's Gemlog: - RISC-V and Toki Pona gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~wholesomedonut/gemlog/2023-01-10.gmi

01:26 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2023/01/08/states-attorneys-office-reviewing-after-highland-park-parade-shooter-prank-called-news-reporter-from-lake-county-jail/

01:26 TR Bot; State's attorney's office reviewing after Highland Park parade shooter prank-called news reporter from Lake County Jail

01:27 DaemonFC; Why not. The prosecutor is already going after him with enough to make sure he never leaves prison again, which is almost unheard of in Illinois no matter what you do, especially if you're black.

01:27 TR News; "While Cardinal Pell was known for his skepticism about climate change, I will always be grateful for donations of surplus fileservers from the dioecese for me to recycle with Debian GNU/Linux." https://danielpocock.com/cardinal-george-pell-tribute/

01:27 TR Bot; Cardinal George Pell: a brief tribute

01:29 DaemonFC; "Safety in numbers."

01:29 DaemonFC; There's so many bad people doing so many bad things all at once that the threat of being jailed isn't there anymore, for lesser crimes.

01:29 DaemonFC; And those lesser crimes are getting more disgusting by the day.

01:37 TR News; Massive Increase in Deaths After COVID-19, Even as We Enter 2023 (Many Die Suddenly at Home, Including Young People) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/11/young-people-risk/

01:37 TR Bot; Blog Archive Massive Increase in Deaths After COVID-19, Even as We Enter 2023 (Many Die Suddenly at Home, Including Young People)

01:39 TR News; (NEW): Videos: Linux Mint MATE 21.1, Plagiarism, Easy Coding, and Vanilla OS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Videos_Linux_Mint_MATE_21_1_Plagiarism_Easy_Coding_and_Vanilla_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Videos_Linux_Mint_MATE_21_1_Plagiarism_Easy_Coding_and_Vanilla_.gmi

01:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos: Linux Mint MATE 21.1, Plagiarism, Easy Coding, and Vanilla OS

01:41 TR News; Studio Ghibli Director Hayao Miyazaki Draws Illustration for the Year of the Rabbit https://blog.adafruit.com/2023/01/10/studio-ghibli-director-hayao-miyazaki-draws-illustration-for-the-year-of-the-rabbit-arttuesday/

01:41 TR Bot; Studio Ghibli Director Hayao Miyazaki Draws Illustration for the Year of the Rabbit #ArtTuesday Adafruit Industries Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!

01:41 TR News; We have a Chinese calendar hanging at home since last night

01:42 TR News; HEY HI spam. New marketing buzzwords and BS to sell old crap that's NOT energy-efficient. https://venturebeat.com/ai/intel-plots-a-path-to-universal-ai-with-4th-gen-zeon-scalable-gpu%EF%BF%BC%EF%BF%BC/

01:42 TR Bot; plots a path to 'universal AI' with 4th Gen Xeon Scalable CPU | VentureBeat

01:42 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2023/01/10/1148188880/wall-street-goldman-sachs-layoffs-investment-banking-recession-inflation

01:42 TR Bot; Goldman Sachs is laying off as many as 3,200 employees : NPR

01:42 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], 3,200 layoffs at Government Sachs.

01:43 TR News; Timothy Prickett Morgan has FAILED to disclose he gets paid by INTEL for puff pieces! https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/01/10/the-rest-of-the-world-can-finally-get-sapphire-rapids-xeon-sps/

01:43 TR Bot; The Rest Of The World Can Finally Get Sapphire Rapids Xeon SPs

01:43 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Goldman_Sachs

01:43 TR Bot; Goldman Sachs - Techrights

01:43 DaemonFC; They don't need the banksters so who will loan mjg59_ and his failed Aurora money to keep going?

01:43 DaemonFC; Hmm. I wonder.

01:44 DaemonFC; Is Deadian a golden parachute for him?

01:44 schestowitz[TR]; it's not like that

01:44 schestowitz[TR]; if the shares fell

01:44 DaemonFC; Who is sponsoring HIM to work on Deadian?

01:44 schestowitz[TR]; then it means shareholders ALREADY moved away

01:44 schestowitz[TR]; like $17 to $1

01:44 schestowitz[TR]; in just over a year

01:44 schestowitz[TR]; so about 93% down

01:44 psydruid; Intel has to use gimmicks to sell hardware now

01:44 DaemonFC; mjg59_ already said that "working with Debian people makes me want to stab someone" on his LiveJournal.

01:45 DaemonFC; Very stable genius.

01:45 schestowitz[TR]; we had a chat last night here about what happens when money circulation grings to a halt

01:45 psydruid; that someone is himself?

01:45 schestowitz[TR]; beause rianne saw many empty restaurants

01:45 schestowitz[TR]; with the cooks and chefs smoking outside

01:45 psydruid; I fully approve

01:45 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Be sure to quote mjg59_ on "stab someone" when you get a chance.

01:45 schestowitz[TR]; they pay for staff and energy

01:45 schestowitz[TR]; some already shut doiwn

01:45 DaemonFC; He said that in 2006, iirc.

01:45 schestowitz[TR]; the remaining ones did not

01:45 DaemonFC; It's on his LiveJournal.

01:45 schestowitz[TR]; so that means less spendings

01:45 schestowitz[TR]; which in turn means less income

01:45 schestowitz[TR]; and means less spending

01:45 schestowitz[TR]; it's a cycle

01:46 schestowitz[TR]; meanwhile the poligarchs stash capital in offshore accounts

01:46 schestowitz[TR]; outside the economy, untaxed

01:46 schestowitz[TR]; unspent

01:46 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: screenshot that for me

01:46 schestowitz[TR]; from web archive or whatnot

01:46 schestowitz[TR]; I can put that up

01:46 schestowitz[TR]; and then show the page where he says he is in a committee

01:47 schestowitz[TR]; we can repost that

01:47 schestowitz[TR]; if you put that in your blog

01:47 schestowitz[TR]; I am super short on time

01:47 schestowitz[TR]; 2:30am deadline

01:47 schestowitz[TR]; and I want to write about clown computing, after Daily Links

01:47 schestowitz[TR]; 43 mins left

01:48 TR News; Intel spam all around the Web today!!! Including Larabel of course... FOLLOW THE MONEY

01:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], https://mjg59.livejournal.com/66647.html

01:48 TR Bot; I resigned from Debian today. It wasn't actually any one thing. But: mjg59 LiveJournal

01:48 schestowitz[TR]; will you write about it?

01:48 schestowitz[TR]; if not, I will

01:48 schestowitz[TR]; you can think of a good headline

01:48 schestowitz[TR]; like,

01:49 schestowitz[TR]; the stabber is back

01:49 schestowitz[TR]; to backstab

01:49 schestowitz[TR]; to stab the community

01:49 schestowitz[TR]; etc etc

01:49 DaemonFC; https://i.imgur.com/FHvpfUu.png

01:49 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^

01:49 TR News; Dracula Sucks Indoor Light to Power IoT Devices https://blog.adafruit.com/2023/01/10/dracula-sucks-indoor-light-to-power-iot-devices/

01:49 TR Bot; Dracula Sucks Indoor Light to Power IoT Devices Adafruit Industries Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!

01:50 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: now the one where he shows off about coming back

01:50 schestowitz[TR]; screenshot

01:50 DaemonFC; https://archive.ph/2vpgI

01:50 TR Bot; I resigned from Debian today. It wasn't actually any one thing. But: mjg59 LiveJournal

01:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], He was complaining that Debian had the Free Software Guidelines.

01:50 DaemonFC; And bragging about Ubuntu, years before they were just outright simping for Microsoft.

01:51 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: will you blog?

01:51 DaemonFC; Then said he wanted to stab people when he got into debates about Free Software, and that having a Fully Free program just isn't important.

01:51 schestowitz[TR]; or I will?

01:51 DaemonFC; I haven't been very active on blogging since COVID.

01:51 DaemonFC; Except maybe Microblogging.

01:51 schestowitz[TR]; have a go at it

01:51 schestowitz[TR]; tbh, you would do a better job than me

01:52 schestowitz[TR]; I'm short on time

01:52 schestowitz[TR]; irc is fast becuase it is very informal

01:52 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/today_s_howtos.1.gmi

01:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

01:53 DaemonFC; A person who rants against the ideals of Free Software who said that he resigned because people who were volunteering to work on it made him want to stab them.....is now on their Technical Committee.

01:53 DaemonFC; It shows just how far Debian has fallen and why there is no point in trying to use it.

01:53 schestowitz[TR]; writing..

01:54 schestowitz[TR]; ok, wait

01:54 schestowitz[TR]; very short

01:55 schestowitz[TR]; hmm... the irc logs are not up yet

01:55 psydruid; so he got sent by his Microsoft masters to deal the final blow to Debian

01:55 schestowitz[TR]; so I cannot quote him

01:55 schestowitz[TR]; race condition :/

01:55 schestowitz[TR]; screenshot time

01:56 psydruid; because running Debian to revive Windows-proof hardware is bad for business

01:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I'm starting out a post.

01:56 schestowitz[TR]; ok

01:59 TR News; Microsofters Stabbing People in Debian | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/01/10/microsoft-backstabbing/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/10/microsoft-backstabbing/

01:59 TR Bot; Microsofters Stabbing People in Debian | Techrights

01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

2 AM, January 11

02:01 schestowitz[TR]; he also atatcked Perens

02:01 schestowitz[TR]; obv. more like "state asset"

02:01 schestowitz[TR]; than an actual fs person

02:01 schestowitz[TR]; but more people know this by now

02:01 schestowitz[TR]; apparently not in debian

02:01 *schestowitz[TR] back to writing daily links and last article on clown computing

02:01 psydruid; Debian has stooped very low to allow him to come back into the fold

02:02 psydruid; But we're used to that by now

02:02 schestowitz[TR]; he kept attacking debian devs

02:02 schestowitz[TR]; to 'cancel' them

02:02 schestowitz[TR]; over their ethics

02:02 schestowitz[TR]; not allowed

02:02 schestowitz[TR]; rianne thinks he snitched on her to her ewmployer

02:02 schestowitz[TR]; but cannot prove it

02:02 schestowitz[TR]; woimen's gut feeling, she says

02:02 psydruid; from writing Microsoft drivers back to poisoning Debian and GNU/Linux

02:03 schestowitz[TR]; he had previously sent letters to her door

02:03 schestowitz[TR]; trying to destroy his critics finalkly

02:03 schestowitz[TR]; AFTWER DEFAMING THEM!

02:03 psydruid; I can see him doing that, that's how cowardly he is

02:03 schestowitz[TR]; *financially

02:03 schestowitz[TR]; usinmg his Pentagon money!

02:04 psydruid; I wish he had executed the latter part of his statement

02:04 psydruid; better not to stab others but only himself

02:04 schestowitz[TR]; don't say that

02:04 schestowitz[TR]; he'll hold me accountable

02:04 schestowitz[TR]; in twitter

02:04 schestowitz[TR]; like he did with daemonfc

02:04 schestowitz[TR]; like he's my son

02:04 psydruid; he can hold me accountable

02:05 psydruid; I don't care

02:05 psydruid; you didn't say it

02:05 schestowitz[TR]; later he tells microsofters people scheme to kill him

02:05 schestowitz[TR]; citing some unknown people in ic

02:05 psydruid; he said it himself

02:05 schestowitz[TR]; who camme to irc only for a day

02:05 schestowitz[TR]; he has a history of sending sockpuppets here

02:05 schestowitz[TR]; so who knows

02:05 schestowitz[TR]; he could even "plant" stuff

02:05 schestowitz[TR]; and he ban-evades

02:06 psydruid; if he's that much of a snowflake he isn't even worth talking about

02:06 schestowitz[TR]; to send threats my way

02:06 psydruid; I'd rather just ignore him and consider him dead or self-stabbed

02:06 schestowitz[TR]; let's just focus on tch

02:06 schestowitz[TR]; he's here to pick '\dirt'

02:06 schestowitz[TR]; no other purpose

02:07 schestowitz[TR]; his career is over

02:07 psydruid; but why has he been involved here more and more lately anyway?

02:07 schestowitz[TR]; his twitter 'career'

02:07 psydruid; can't he just sod off and go to mars with musk

02:07 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=e-IWRmpefzE

02:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Knife Party!

02:07 TR Bot; Knife Party - 'Bonfire' - Invidious

02:07 schestowitz[TR]; transphobe pretending to speak for trans people

02:07 psydruid; never to be heard of again

02:07 schestowitz[TR]; while literally f**ing them

02:07 DaemonFC; For when Debian makes mjg59_ "want to stab people".

02:08 *phanes stretches

02:08 psydruid; Debian people or other people?

02:08 psydruid; stab all people?

02:08 phanes; why ya'll even think about that loser still, he's not relevant to anything anymore

02:08 DaemonFC; I don't know. He said Debian people make him want to stab people.

02:08 DaemonFC; He was non-specific as to which people, actually.

02:09 DaemonFC; I suppose.

02:09 phanes; i mean

02:09 phanes; don't get me wrong

02:09 DaemonFC; Maybe under the advice of his lawyer to not name any specific person so they can't get a restraining order.

02:09 phanes; i'd love to bump into him and demonstrate the proper way to knock some teeth out of a face

02:09 psydruid; he tries to stir up some controversial conversations here and some people lend him legitimacy

02:09 schestowitz[TR]; biab

02:09 schestowitz[TR]; racing against my own cron jobs!

02:09 phanes; but damn, don't give that vampire your energy

02:10 DaemonFC; He seems like the kind of guy who chases all of the normies away.

02:10 psydruid; I don't grant him any of that

02:10 DaemonFC; Probably explains the situation...with...

02:10 psydruid; I just want him to fuck off

02:10 psydruid; and leave whatever is left of free software alone

02:11 DaemonFC; MinceR, I just wind my automatic watch by wearing it while I do some exercise.

02:11 DaemonFC; Then I didn't have to worry about it running down if I wear the Casio most of the time.

02:12 TR News; Links 10/01/2023: Yet More Security Issues in Rust | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/01/10/yet-more-security-issues-in-rust/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/10/yet-more-security-issues-in-rust/

02:12 TR Bot; Links 10/01/2023: Yet More Security Issues in Rust | Techrights

02:12 DaemonFC; It's lost 30 seconds in the past 6 days. I suppose that's not bad.

02:12 DaemonFC; I think most of that was while I wasn't wearing it today.

02:12 schestowitz[TR]; that's a massive time drift

02:12 DaemonFC; Yeah, it's pretty typical for an automatic.

02:13 schestowitz[TR]; should be <1sec in a week

02:13 schestowitz[TR]; and can drift either way

02:13 DaemonFC; The factory doesn't regulate the NH35A.

02:13 DaemonFC; It just sets them and sells them.

02:13 schestowitz[TR]; i used to re-set my casco at most 4 times a year

02:13 schestowitz[TR]; 1990s

02:13 DaemonFC; You kind of have to speed up the movement a little and then see what it does if it's losing time.

02:13 schestowitz[TR]; casio

02:14 DaemonFC; Yeah, mine doesn't drift. Even by 1 second.

02:14 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Programming_Leftovers.gmi

02:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers

02:14 DaemonFC; It resets to the atomic clock every 24 hours.

02:14 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/today_s_leftovers.gmi

02:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers

02:14 DaemonFC; Those quartz movements Casio makes now are good anyway, even in very cheap watches.

02:14 DaemonFC; They're off by about 1 second per month maybe.

02:14 phanes; why even wear a watch in 2022

02:14 DaemonFC; Even if they don't set themselves.

02:14 phanes; its purely aesthetic

02:15 *isak has quit (connection closed)

02:15 DaemonFC; Not really.

02:15 MinceR; i would have liked to have a map on a watch for walking navigation

02:15 MinceR; but my wrists don't tolerate watches

02:15 phanes; you likely have no less than 5 devices that tell you the time within 10 feet of you

02:17 schestowitz[TR]; I can't find that 90s show.,..

02:17 schestowitz[TR]; where they sync their watche

02:17 schestowitz[TR]; tried liek 10 diffeent wuqries

02:17 schestowitz[TR]; lewis, screetch

02:17 schestowitz[TR]; saved by the bell

02:18 schestowitz[TR]; yewtu.be has almost nothing

02:18 MinceR; Parker Lewis Can't Lose?

02:18 schestowitz[TR]; yeah

02:18 schestowitz[TR]; but the scenes where they sync their watches

02:18 schestowitz[TR]; sorry for typos in a hurry atm

02:18 schestowitz[TR]; "When the Employer Doesn't Understand or Grossly Underestimates AWS Capacity Issues (and Lost E-mail in Clown Computing)"

02:19 phanes; ^ that should be a book title

02:19 phanes; I love AWS as much as I hate it

02:19 phanes; as a CSP they're objectively better than Azure and GCP

02:19 phanes; but man they really do some things weird

02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

02:20 MinceR; it doesn't seem to be difficult to be better than azure

02:20 phanes; spending too much time listening to developers and incompetents

02:20 phanes; just so that's not misunderstood, most developers are very intelligent, capable people with strong subject matter expertise

02:21 phanes; they just have a tendency to be bad at designing systems

02:21 phanes; on the converse most people who are good at designing systems are not viable developers for the most part

02:22 phanes; the mindset required to design a good system and the mindset required to implement a good design are incompatible mindsets that cannot coexist in one mind

02:22 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz

02:22 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC

02:22 DaemonFC; Coinbase lays off 950 more people as the Dunning-Kruger Token Mania continues to abate.

02:22 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2023/01/10/1148163220/coinbase-layoffs-crypto-winter-bitcoin

02:22 TR Bot; Coinbase lays off around 20% of its workforce amid crypto downturn : NPR

02:23 phanes; good

02:23 phanes; cryptonerds need to occassionally fail to remind everyone that they have no clue what theyre talking about and are largely a product of circumstance

02:30 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz

02:30 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC

02:30 DaemonFC; I like how Vince Gilligan punishes people who are not paying full attention to the show, and even people who only watched through it one time, with blink and you'll miss it stuff.

02:30 DaemonFC; How there's really no need to go retcon anything because he's good at preventing continuity errors and obvious goofs.

02:30 DaemonFC; I think they need to hire him and fire whoever is in charge of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

02:36 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: can you help proofreading?

02:36 schestowitz[TR]; I'm lacking time

02:38 schestowitz[TR]; deadline 5 mins

02:38 schestowitz[TR]; unless I change the scripts

02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-100123.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-100123.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-100123.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-100123.txt

02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, January 10, 2023

02:40 schestowitz[TR]; -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.npr.org | Coinbase lays off around 20% of its workforce amid crypto downturn : NPR

02:40 schestowitz[TR]; coinbase is evil

02:40 schestowitz[TR]; poliical dfunces

02:40 schestowitz[TR]; I hope they have savings

02:40 schestowitz[TR]; and not in 'crypto'

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02:40 schestowitz[TR]; because nobody will hire 'crypto' idiots

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02:41 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, January 10, 2023

02:41 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: typos for sure: http://techrights.org/2023/01/10/aws-trap/

02:41 TR Bot; When the Employer Doesnt Understand or Grossly Underestimates AWS Capacity Issues (and a Story of Lost E-mail in Clown Computing) | Techrights

02:41 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/23/coinbase-suspends-wikileaks-bitcoin-account.html

02:41 TR Bot; Coinbase suspends WikiLeaks' bitcoin account

02:41 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/coinbase-wikileaks-bitcoin-brokerage-boycott-cryptocurrency-a8318031.html

02:41 schestowitz[TR]; https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/987531916055318528

02:42 TR Bot; Coinbase: WikiLeaks calls for boycott of worlds biggest bitcoin brokerage | The Independent | The Independent

02:42 TR Bot; WikiLeaks will call for a global blockade of Coinbase next week as an unfit member of the crypto community. Coinbas https://t.co/cYCqKswhRW

02:42 TR Bot; WikiLeaks will call for a global blockade of Coinbase next week as an unfit member of the crypto community. Coinbas https://t.co/cYCqKswhRW

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02:42 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, January 10, 2023

02:44 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2023-01-10.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2023-01-10.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)

02:45 schestowitz[TR]; bulletin with many typos ^_^

02:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], You shouldn't talk about an AWS Trap.

02:54 DaemonFC; Our local failed biologist might get testy in defense of his partner.

02:54 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: refresh

02:54 schestowitz[TR]; I fixed many typos

02:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Ironically, "Cloud Hosting" only makes sense if your needs are so small that it's hardly worth setting anything up yourself.

02:56 TR News; When the Employer Doesnt Understand or Grossly Underestimates AWS Capacity Issues (and a Story of Lost E-mail in Clown Computing) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/01/10/aws-trap/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/10/aws-trap/

02:56 DaemonFC; So the entire thing should be self-limiting.

02:56 schestowitz[TR]; yeah

02:56 schestowitz[TR]; can you spot typos?

02:56 schestowitz[TR]; or,

02:56 schestowitz[TR]; can i quote you?

02:57 DaemonFC; reasons we explains

02:57 DaemonFC; explained

02:57 DaemonFC; Yeah, quote me.

02:57 schestowitz[TR]; fixed already

02:57 schestowitz[TR]; refresh page

02:58 DaemonFC; So even salaries and energy and space for the servers, an ISP, maintaining hardware, replacing hardware....

02:58 DaemonFC; It's not even worth going to "Cloud" hosting to get rid of that, because the bills are larger than all of that is anyway?

02:58 schestowitz[TR]; yeah

02:58 schestowitz[TR]; I saw the finances

02:59 DaemonFC; "megabytes of text in E-mails"

02:59 DaemonFC; WTF

02:59 schestowitz[TR]; yeah

02:59 schestowitz[TR]; like this one client

02:59 schestowitz[TR]; imagine this:

02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

02:59 DaemonFC; How do you get to MB of text?

02:59 schestowitz[TR]; hi xxxx, the latest is 45% done

02:59 schestowitz[TR]; followed by a megabyte of text

02:59 schestowitz[TR]; wall of text

02:59 DaemonFC; Oh God.

02:59 schestowitz[TR]; and put like 100 of these in a ticketing system!

02:59 DaemonFC; So they never just send a new email at some point when it's getting ridiculous?

3 AM, January 11

03:00 schestowitz[TR]; then it turns out the DB needs mor RAM

03:00 schestowitz[TR]; a lot more RAM!

03:00 schestowitz[TR]; we had to cull the DB a bit byhand

03:00 schestowitz[TR]; to get around this BS

03:00 DaemonFC; "as they top-post the Microsoft Way basically"

03:00 DaemonFC; Vivaldi top-posts.

03:00 schestowitz[TR]; yeah

03:00 schestowitz[TR]; propprietary also

03:01 DaemonFC; "phony encryption as a tenant on someone elses servers"

03:01 DaemonFC; You mean like Apple's latest ruse?

03:01 DaemonFC; They know the "CSAM Scanner" scared people because suddenly EVERYONE understands that Apple has access to ALL of their files.

03:02 DaemonFC; So Apple is doing damage control now by trying to say you can encrypt your iCloud backups with your own key, which they can still dig out of your iPhone without your permission.

03:02 schestowitz[TR]; still finding typos

03:02 schestowitz[TR]; "outsourcing"x2

03:02 schestowitz[TR]; was oursourcing

03:02 DaemonFC; This whole thing is ludicrous. Pants, I believe would be an appropriate British-English-ism.

03:02 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 65942 total Total number of pages in capsule: 44366 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 5 months 7 days ago

03:03 DaemonFC; Weve had arguments

03:03 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.

03:03 DaemonFC; We

03:04 schestowitz[TR]; we've seems ok

03:04 schestowitz[TR]; i think

03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.

03:05 DaemonFC; "In some cases useful virtual machines were turned off to save money. Even if they took little space and CPU. If self-hosted, they would cost almost nothing to leave on.

03:05 DaemonFC; "

03:05 DaemonFC; They charge you time for the VM being on even if it's idling.

03:05 DaemonFC; Oh that's perfect.

03:05 schestowitz[TR]; yeah

03:05 schestowitz[TR]; exactly

03:05 DaemonFC; Flat-rate even though it's just a process that they can de-prioritize on their system that costs them almost nothing.

03:05 schestowitz[TR]; ripoff

03:06 schestowitz[TR]; you pay for bytes on a platter

03:06 schestowitz[TR]; even if the platter does not need to spinb

03:06 schestowitz[TR]; real-life trenche story

03:06 schestowitz[TR]; "turn it off when done"

03:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Peak Stupid of Cloud Computing for personal use....

03:06 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, makes sense..

03:06 schestowitz[TR]; .for a VM that uses 0.00001% of CPU"

03:07 DaemonFC; Is that you pay someone with a backdoor $3-5 a month, every month.

03:07 DaemonFC; For an amount of space that you could have on a flash drive for not much more, one time expense, and your files can't be remotely accessed by others, quietly.

03:07 DaemonFC; Without your permission.

03:07 schestowitz[TR]; yeah

03:07 schestowitz[TR]; exactly

03:08 DaemonFC; If the cops want it, they have to get a search warrant and find out where the drive is and confiscate it, and if you've encrypted it you don't have to tell them shit.

03:08 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: $1 for extra sprinkles on your sundae

03:08 DaemonFC; And if you want to get rid of a file, shred it.

03:08 schestowitz[TR]; they buy a 1kg ppack for a dollar

03:09 TR News; Wow, over 19,000 wiki views in just over a month. 20,000 by end of today? http://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_Source

03:09 TR Bot; Sirius Open Source - Techrights

03:09 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Walt and Jesse on Breaking Bad.

03:10 DaemonFC; Walt didn't quite get the hierarchy of the drug world.

03:10 DaemonFC; So Jesse had to explain that the street dealers were like a Starbucks and Krazy 8 was the guy who sold Starbucks the beans.

03:10 DaemonFC; And so Walt goes, "Oh, a distributor.".

03:10 schestowitz[TR]; btw

03:10 schestowitz[TR]; a colleague thought we needed fibre

03:10 schestowitz[TR]; for hosting in the office

03:11 DaemonFC; I mean, he didn't get that the drug world works like the business world, I guess.

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; 1) fibre si now widely available

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; to the cabiney

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; it's cheap

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; we have that installed next month

03:11 DaemonFC; That makes him and Jesse the producers and the wholesaler.

03:11 DaemonFC; :)

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; costs about 8 pounds a month

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; second, we don't need fibre at work

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; it's just some web "apps"

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; we don't deal with large transmissions there

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; the company was using gulag drive

03:12 schestowitz[TR]; even when it had its own FILE SERVER

03:12 schestowitz[TR]; before the server was sold

03:12 schestowitz[TR]; that's how dumb Mr. Kink is

03:12 DaemonFC; Walt didn't get why their operation couldn't bring in a lot of money without a distributor.

03:12 DaemonFC; (It was being bottlenecked because even without that guy taking a cut, Jesse only knew like 3 guys to deal it on the street and they can only work so fast.)

03:13 DaemonFC; You bring in a distributor, you sell it to him cheaper per ounce, pound, whatever, but he can move it just as fast as you sell it to him.

03:13 DaemonFC; So you're not bottlenecked by a limited distribution network anymore.

03:14 TR News; How can Sirius advise clients on hosting when it cannot even do its OWN right? Yes, colleagues tried to push "AWS" to clients; I kept standing in the way, saying it would cost a fortune and erode security/privacy https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/11/sirius-wasting-money/

03:14 TR Bot; Blog Archive Sirius Open Source Wasting Almost 10,000 Pounds a Year on Hosting (That Could Cost Under 1,000 Pounds)

03:14 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: WE COULD HIRE YOU

03:14 DaemonFC; You also put some firewall between you and the police.

03:14 schestowitz[TR]; 11,000 US dollars a year

03:14 schestowitz[TR]; just keep the VMs

03:14 schestowitz[TR]; and look after them

03:14 schestowitz[TR]; no amazon

03:15 DaemonFC; The police bust a dealer, he knows you'll kill him if he talks, he knows if he doesn't talk he gets a lawyer and commissary money while he's in prison.

03:15 DaemonFC; You stay out of prison while he does time.

03:15 schestowitz[TR]; put aside drugs and police

03:15 schestowitz[TR]; set aside crime

03:15 DaemonFC; I just thought it was funny how Walt says a business degree is useful anywhere you go.

03:15 schestowitz[TR]; access to server can be "justified" for a lot less

03:15 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft kept doing it

03:15 schestowitz[TR]; reading people's outlook/hotmail accounts

03:15 schestowitz[TR]; for business reasons

03:16 DaemonFC; He's brilliant but doesn't have a mind for the business angle.

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; or finding whisteleblowers

03:16 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> reading people's outlook/hotmail accounts

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: 11K A YEAR FOR YOu

03:16 DaemonFC; Yeah, "free email". How does that work?

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; Your job is to camp on the hypervisor

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; make sure nothing break

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; spoiler: almost never will something break

03:17 schestowitz[TR]; also spoiler: aws breaks, TOO

03:17 schestowitz[TR]; and you are on youir own

03:17 schestowitz[TR]; amazon does not offer support

03:17 schestowitz[TR]; you need ANOTHER contract for that

03:17 DaemonFC; Well yeah, they don't guarantee that everything will go perfectly inside the VM.

03:17 schestowitz[TR]; with some 'certified' 'expert' who studied their ever-changing GUIs

03:17 DaemonFC; So there's a mess in your lap anyway.

03:17 schestowitz[TR]; that change every year

03:17 schestowitz[TR]; sometimes those companies

03:17 schestowitz[TR]; 1) lose VMs

03:18 schestowitz[TR]; 2) have critical bugs in the containerisation

03:18 schestowitz[TR]; 3) get cracked

03:18 schestowitz[TR]; 4) other tenants get access to your dataa

03:18 schestowitz[TR]; 5) downtime

03:18 schestowitz[TR]; lots of aws downtimesd

03:18 schestowitz[TR]; your own network works

03:18 schestowitz[TR]; but aws/clownflare down

03:18 schestowitz[TR]; so your site is down, too

03:18 schestowitz[TR]; and all you can do is... wait

03:18 schestowitz[TR]; "how long?"

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; Company (not yours): REAL SOON NOW

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; welcome to clown computing

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; you are at the mercy of Wall Street-owned companies

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; that shut down your infra

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; if it's not profitable to THEM

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; profitable to you

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; not to THEM

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; hence: your business is shut down

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03:20 schestowitz[TR]; one month! find another provider!

03:20 schestowitz[TR]; "good luck!"

03:20 schestowitz[TR]; "we'll bill you AGAIN at month's end"

03:25 schestowitz[TR]; biab, recording

03:26 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> Our local failed biologist might get testy in defense of his partner.

03:26 schestowitz[TR]; does buffy work in clown business?

03:26 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Trap is a slang term.

03:26 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Today_in_Techrights.gmi

03:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights

03:26 DaemonFC; (slang, informal, sometimes offensive) Of a 'trap': to trick a (heterosexual) man into having sex, by appearing to be a woman.

03:27 schestowitz[TR]; didn't know

03:29 DaemonFC; Stabby Stab Stabbington is on the Debian Technical Committee now.

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04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

04:24 TR News; Techrights full IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt

04:24 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index

04:25 TR News; Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, January 10, 2023 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives

04:25 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives

04:28 TR News; IPFS scale issues are a PITA. To the point where, if it fails to work and you seem to be doing everything right, then just leave it alone and let it be. It'll 'fix' itself on its own some time in the future. IPFS is severely broken by design? The problem is, many thing they do it wrong and spend hours troubleshooting in vain; the problem is ELSEWHERE!

04:28 schestowitz[TR]; done. one-hour video

04:29 schestowitz[TR]; covers some pointed raised in irc, by DaemonFC also

04:29 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: please don't post the sexualised stuff here

04:29 schestowitz[TR]; it detracts from the technical discussions

04:29 schestowitz[TR]; and can put people off

04:35 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], LibreWolf.

04:35 DaemonFC; They dumped the Windows Store version. 5 major versions behind. Still there, rotting.

04:35 DaemonFC; Full of security holes.

04:35 DaemonFC; :)

04:35 schestowitz[TR]; librewold?

04:35 schestowitz[TR]; riunne and i use librewolf

04:36 schestowitz[TR]; windows itself is a hole

04:36 DaemonFC; They put a Windows Store version up and then didn't update it.

04:36 DaemonFC; Windows is a cesspit.

04:36 schestowitz[TR]; btw, librewolf by default pretends to be firefox on WINDOWS

04:36 schestowitz[TR]; so it downplays gnu/linux users worldwide

04:36 schestowitz[TR]; Windows IS a hole, DaemonFC

04:36 schestowitz[TR]; and keylogger

04:36 schestowitz[TR]; password stealer

04:36 schestowitz[TR]; no matter what you put ON TOP of it

04:37 schestowitz[TR]; gulag troll promotes the disk encryption in Windows

04:37 schestowitz[TR]; IN SPITE of knowing Microsoft/NSA STEAL THE KEYS

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04:37 schestowitz[TR]; now he is in debian technical committee

04:37 schestowitz[TR]; so they get advice from a hostie entity

04:37 schestowitz[TR]; amazing!

04:53 TR News; Hours ago Microsoft Matt bragged that he had just entered the technical committee in Debian; he probably doesnt want people to see what he wrote before (content warning: violence) http://techrights.org/2023/01/10/microsoft-backstabbing/

04:53 TR Bot; Microsofters Stabbing People in Debian | Techrights

04:54 TR News; The Sirius Open Source management was dumb enough to replace the in-house infrastructure with overpriced (and outsourced) junk that did not even work as expected http://techrights.org/2023/01/10/aws-trap/

04:54 TR Bot; When the Employer Doesnt Understand or Grossly Underestimates AWS Capacity Issues (and a Story of Lost E-mail in Clown Computing) | Techrights

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04:59 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: meme incoming

04:59 schestowitz[TR]; to summarise with punchline

5 AM, January 11

05:00 TR News; [Meme] The AWS Bill is Here | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/01/11/santa-clown/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/11/santa-clown/

05:00 TR Bot; [Meme] The AWS Bill is Here | Techrights

05:00 schestowitz[TR]; drop the mic

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05:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], It's a trap! -Admiral Ackbar

05:16 DaemonFC; LibreWolf got the Firefox on Windows 10 UA from the Tor Project.

05:17 DaemonFC; The theory is sound.

05:17 DaemonFC; When you want to be less unique you go with whatever most people use. I suppose they could claim to be Chrome on Chrome OS or something, but would that be any better?

05:17 DaemonFC; Actually, maybe.

05:17 DaemonFC; Firefox itself is barely used anymore, even on Windows.

05:18 DaemonFC; Mitchell Baker wants a "Social Network" now, for the 3 Firefox users left in the world, I guess.

05:18 DaemonFC; Even I left.

05:19 DaemonFC; That's saying something because I used Mozilla Suite even in 1998-99 quite a lot.

05:19 DaemonFC; It crashed a lot, but it improved, so each release got better and then it crashed less, and more features were added.

05:19 DaemonFC; Crashing, but on the upswing is a way different beast for me than "A very stable piece of malware.".

05:19 DaemonFC; You know?

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05:20 DaemonFC; So I'd actually probably use Firefox even if it crashed more than it does if they hadn't gone and turned it into malware.

05:20 DaemonFC; They have no reason to like where this is going.

05:28 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz

05:28 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC

05:28 DaemonFC; I think it's safe to say that people who openly say they want to stab other people and themselves should seek counseling, not be elevated to the Debian Technical Committee in the middle of the night.

05:28 DaemonFC; He boosts Microsoft, including their fake disk encryption in Windows that exfiltrates your decryption passphrase to Microsoft, and by extension, any cops that want it.

05:28 DaemonFC; The disturbing content about "stab people" came up in literally the first five seconds after I looked up "Matthew Garrett Debian".

05:30 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: seen the meme?

05:30 mjg59_; I did, in fact, seek counseling

05:30 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz

05:30 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC

05:30 DaemonFC; I suppose I might continue looking through things before Matthew Garrett catches on and starts deleting years-old posts.

05:30 DaemonFC; I put the disturbing post I found in Archive Today just so there can't be any confusion about what he actually said on his blog in 2006.

05:30 DaemonFC; Bonus for simping for Ubuntu before they turned into a Microsoft Troll Farm posting spam about WSL.

05:31 DaemonFC; https://archive.ph/2vpgI

05:31 TR Bot; I resigned from Debian today. It wasn't actually any one thing. But: mjg59 LiveJournal

05:31 TR News; Best Handheld Gaming Consoles for Emulation - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-emulation-handheld-gaming-consoles/ Source: Make Tech Easier | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.maketecheasier.com/best-emulation-handheld-gaming-consoles/

05:31 TR Bot; Best Handheld Gaming Consoles for Emulation - Make Tech Easier

05:32 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz

05:32 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC

05:32 DaemonFC; Words cannot describe how horrified I am at what is going on at Debian.

05:32 DaemonFC; I figured, wrongly it turned out, that it would be a safe place away from the Microsoft Troll Farm known as Canonical/Ubuntu.

05:32 DaemonFC; Just going to the Web site, it barely says anything anymore about why you would want to use Ubuntu as a GNU/Linux distribution, and it encourages you to use some bastard version of it like the Alien Queen shackled up at the bottom of the pyramid.

05:33 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> I did, in fact, seek counseling

05:33 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> Bonus for simping for Ubuntu before they turned into a Microsoft Troll Farm posting spam about WSL.

05:33 schestowitz[TR]; aye

05:33 DaemonFC; Too late to get a refund?

05:33 schestowitz[TR]; Windows pushers

05:33 schestowitz[TR]; part of the COntract(TM)

05:33 TR News; Excess deaths, different countries and different age groups https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/11/young-people-risk/

05:33 TR Bot; Blog Archive Massive Increase in Deaths After COVID-19, Even as We Enter 2023 (Many Die Suddenly at Home, Including Young People)

05:34 TR News; The Sirius Open Source management was dumb enough to replace the in-house infrastructure with overpriced (and outsourced) junk that did not even work as expected https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/11/sirius-wasting-money/

05:34 TR Bot; Blog Archive Sirius Open Source Wasting Almost 10,000 Pounds a Year on Hosting (That Could Cost Under 1,000 Pounds)

05:34 TR News; Debian GNU/Linux besieged http://techrights.org/2023/01/10/microsoft-backstabbing/

05:34 TR Bot; Microsofters Stabbing People in Debian | Techrights

05:41 schestowitz[TR]; that is so old that he was still "saying transphphic shit" according to himself;' and Debian gave him lots of access; now he insistts that we should NOT EVEN TAKE BUG REPORTS from people who act like he did when inside Debian! Gaffaw!

05:41 schestowitz[TR]; re << <DaemonFC> I put the disturbing post I found in Archive Today just so there can't be any confusion about what he actually said on his blog in 2006.

05:42 schestowitz[TR]; biab

05:42 schestowitz[TR]; the troll is pwning himself

05:42 schestowitz[TR]; at every turn

05:42 schestowitz[TR]; gulagtroll:

05:42 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/141011-never-miss-a-good-chance-to-shut-up

05:42 TR Bot; Quote by Will Rogers: Never miss a good chance to shut up.

05:43 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: I assume you do a blog post about it

05:43 schestowitz[TR]; I only did one ina hurry

05:44 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz

05:44 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC

05:44 DaemonFC; Richard Stallman: (Paraphrase)

05:44 DaemonFC; I could have made more money if I had sold out my principles and gone to work for a proprietary software company, but I would have made that money by doing harm to the world and leaving things in a worse place than if I had never done any such work at all.

05:44 DaemonFC; I could have lived on a waiter's salary and not actively harmed the world.

05:44 DaemonFC; Matthew Garrett:

05:44 DaemonFC; Who will pay me the most, even if it helps bring about the end of Free Software and destroys millions of jobs?

05:44 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz

05:44 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC

05:44 DaemonFC; And they put Matthew Garrett on the Debian Technical Committee and IBM defunded the Free Software Foundation as punishment for not canceling Richard Stallman and weakening their position on software patents?

05:44 DaemonFC; Hmm.

05:45 DaemonFC; Bad people doing bad things definitely always seem to have the upperhand.

05:45 DaemonFC; It takes constant work to fight them off and the minute you don't, you lose everything.

05:45 DaemonFC; Sometimes all at once, sometimes a piece at a time (Secure Boot) so they can deny you're even under attack at all.

05:45 schestowitz[TR]; you should blog

05:45 schestowitz[TR]; mastodon does not count

05:45 schestowitz[TR]; saocial control media = waste of time

05:45 schestowitz[TR]; that instance will be offline in <10 years

05:45 schestowitz[TR]; and others that federate it likewise

05:45 schestowitz[TR]; you could write the same in a blog post

05:45 schestowitz[TR]; and get thousands of reads

05:45 schestowitz[TR]; not of just one sentence

05:45 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz

05:45 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC

05:45 DaemonFC; Debian's Wiki denied that Secure Boot is an attack on Software Freedom.

05:45 DaemonFC; So the fact that they've had some bad people lying their asses off to the users isn't new, it's just made so much worse now that Garrett's back.

05:46 schestowitz[TR]; but whole articles

05:58 TR News; "Reading through intrusive-collections. My eyes are not quite used to reading macro packages and they don't quite make sense to me yet. Error messages look strange too." http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2023-Jan-11.html.en#2023-Jan-11-10:16:00

05:58 TR Bot; Reading through intrusive-collections.

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6 AM, January 11

06:03 TR News; Mental Outlaw now publishing spammy videos that help the Microsoft PR department. 'Open'AI is NOT open and NOT as amazing as bribed media is telling you.

06:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/01/11/matthew-garrett-appointed-to-debian-technical-committee-nearly-17-years-after-saying-debian-made-him-want-to-stab-the-volunteers-working-on-it-and-himself/

06:06 TR Bot; Matthew Garrett appointed to Debian Technical Committee nearly 17 years after saying Debian made him want to stab the volunteers working on it. (And himself.) | BaronHK's Rants

06:07 DaemonFC; It's that doublemindedness.

06:08 DaemonFC; "The people are wonderful, the ones that have messed up the distribution so badly that I want to stab people!"

06:08 DaemonFC; Who even says things like this?

06:08 DaemonFC; I have not once, ever, said that a piece of software was so bad that it made me want to stab someone.

06:09 DaemonFC; Not even openSUSE under Novell.

06:09 TR News; "One of the nice things about USB-C is its simplicity, right? No more figuring out which side is up to plug into a device. The connector is super-friendly. But thats where the simplicity stops." https://dissociatedpress.net/2023/01/10/usb-c-is-simple-right-well/

06:09 TR Bot; USB-C is simple, right? Well... : Dissociated Press

06:10 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: maybe if he was poor like you, they would arrest him

06:10 schestowitz[TR]; they would report he wanted to stab them

06:10 schestowitz[TR]; he would be swatted

06:10 schestowitz[TR]; and put in cuffs

06:10 schestowitz[TR]; end of story

06:10 schestowitz[TR]; but not in SF

06:10 schestowitz[TR]; anything goes there

06:10 schestowitz[TR]; "I work for Google"

06:10 schestowitz[TR]; Cops: "Oh, okay, sorry"

06:11 DaemonFC; "I work on drone strikes for brown children and harass a gay man in Chicago."

06:11 schestowitz[TR]; re "nearly 17 years after saying Debian mad"

06:11 schestowitz[TR]; be sure to mention

06:11 DaemonFC; "It's mighty liberal of me!"

06:11 phanes; DaemonFC, i dont know they the debian thing is such a shock, they've kind of cemented their reputation the last few years as a gravity well for shitheads who don't meaningfully contribute

06:11 schestowitz[TR]; that 20 years ago he was transphobic in the open

06:11 schestowitz[TR]; according to himself

06:11 schestowitz[TR]; check when he entered debian

06:11 schestowitz[TR]; they let in an uncooseted transphobe

06:12 schestowitz[TR]; according to him

06:12 schestowitz[TR]; *uncloseted

06:12 DaemonFC; "I work at a company that helps ICE rape immigrants at detention centers.".

06:12 DaemonFC; Social Justice.

06:13 schestowitz[TR]; [06:43] <mjg59_> Elena's the one who asked me to stand

06:13 schestowitz[TR]; one asshole asks another

06:13 schestowitz[TR]; hamasman

06:13 phanes; schestowitz[TR], i mean, he still kind of is, its almost entirely an act of placation to maintain his platform of defamation

06:13 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/08/19/elana-hashman-cancel-culture/

06:13 TR Bot; IBM/Azures Elana Hashman, Only Two Months After Starting a Campaign to Delete RMS, Said Israel Should Not Exist | Techrights

06:13 schestowitz[TR]; debian used to seek to fix or replace the powers that be

06:13 schestowitz[TR]; not it's using the brand debian to defame people

06:13 phanes; schestowitz[TR], i view it as "advanced trolling"

06:13 schestowitz[TR]; esp. those who challenge the billionaire

06:14 schestowitz[TR]; funny how that works

06:14 DaemonFC; "We help Trump harass immigrants and gay people. Also we have a Zen Garden in the middle of our campus. Therefore, progressive."

06:15 phanes; schestowitz[TR], that article on hashman could be much better if you go browsing through archives of the issues filed against that repo, you could put together a whole psychological profile from it

06:15 schestowitz[TR]; yeah

06:15 phanes; she said some vile, vile shit

06:15 schestowitz[TR]; it's not complee

06:15 schestowitz[TR]; it was me making a point

06:16 schestowitz[TR]; after she had persistently worked on 1) azure and 2) killing off the gnu ffounder

06:16 schestowitz[TR]; who might have something to say about what she tweeted there

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06:16 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

06:16 TR News; (NEW): Top 12 New Games You Can Play on Linux with Proton January 2023 Edition http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Top_12_New_Games_You_Can_Play_on_Linux_with_Proton_January_2023.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Top_12_New_Games_You_Can_Play_on_Linux_with_Proton_January_2023.gmi

06:16 TR Bot; Tux Machines Top 12 New Games You Can Play on Linux with Proton January 2023 Edition

06:17 TR News; When the corporate media insists that companies now need clown hosting no wonder managers who are as untrained and inexperienced (in tech) as circus clowns make self-harming choices http://techrights.org/2023/01/11/santa-clown/

06:17 TR Bot; [Meme] The AWS Bill is Here | Techrights

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06:25 mjg59_; Y'know, I never imagined someone would care enough about me to record multiple ~hour long videos talking about how bad I am, so I really do appreciate the validation y'all provide

06:27 phanes; yes we're aware that people gathering to find a way to address your damaging behaviour is a narcissistic supply

06:28 schestowitz[TR]; Debian adopts tranphobe

06:28 schestowitz[TR]; on his way out he wished he could stab people

06:28 schestowitz[TR]; that's mjg59_

06:28 schestowitz[TR]; debian needs more quality control

06:28 phanes; ive been in environments that made me want to stab people (not literally but i get it)

06:29 schestowitz[TR]; did you BLOG that?

06:29 mjg59_; I feel like it's pretty clear from the context that what I was complaining about was the culture, not the people?

06:29 phanes; no that interferes with the recovery process after a rough contract

06:30 TR News; Matthew Garrett Appointed to Debian Technical Committee Nearly 17 Years After Saying Debian Made Him Want to Stab the Volunteers Working on it. (And Himself.) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/01/11/debian-technical-committee-suicide/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/11/debian-technical-committee-suicide/

06:30 TR Bot; Matthew Garrett Appointed to Debian Technical Committee Nearly 17 Years After Saying Debian Made Him Want to Stab the Volunteers Working on it. (And Himself.) | Techrights

06:30 DaemonFC; mjg59_ thinks that Firefox has ever had "cross platform consistency".

06:30 mjg59_; And once I realised it was an issue, I removed myself from the situation that made me feel that way

06:30 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@fpfsqjchsbkme.irc) has joined #techrights

06:30 DaemonFC; The only constant in their Linux version is how much feature parity it missed compared to Windows and Mac, where they actually support it.

06:31 DaemonFC; That pretty much remains to this day.

06:31 DaemonFC; They break something on Linux, never fix it.

06:31 DaemonFC; Call it "P1 Platform".

06:31 DaemonFC; Even if it's just a build script that needs a few lines changed.

06:31 phanes; mjg59_, at what point did you evolve from "removing yourself to avoid hurting people" to "publicly defaming people repeatedly and then crowdsourcing shaming their genuine attempts to have it addressed"

06:32 phanes; i mean

06:32 DaemonFC; "Dear Internet Shitheads....."

06:32 mjg59_; phanes: Oh, I removed myself to avoid hurting *me*

06:32 DaemonFC; Tragic

06:32 phanes; how are you the way you are without being fully aware that you are a horrible person that can best serve the world by removing yourself from its roster

06:33 mjg59_; phanes: Rest assured that I have surrounded myself with people who love me

06:33 phanes; this is one reason why i lean towards thinking this is full blown NPD

06:33 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> phanes: Rest assured that I have surrounded myself with people who love me

06:34 mjg59_; I've never once had to write a blog under a fake name justifying my behaviour towards an ex

06:34 phanes; because instead of addressing that you are and have been a massive piece of shit that only hurts people you continuously rewrite your self-narrative

06:34 DaemonFC; Did they invent cloning or do you provide something other than your presence that could make up for....your presence?

06:35 phanes; mjg59_, neither have I, but I did write a blog under my real name for years exposing an ex that was diagnosed with NPD and has run campaigns against several others, several of whom I helped with their legal battle

06:35 phanes; i also changed my name many years later to disassociate from that person without obscuring the things they had done

06:35 mjg59_; phanes: Your real name is Jerry Thibodeau?

06:36 phanes; nope, this is a sophistry you are weaving to try to do a "gotcha" and "catch me in a lie" by misrepresenting material facts that I have already addressed, mainly because you are a narcisisstic piece of shit that would best serve the world by ceasing to exist

06:36 DaemonFC; I've thought about changing my name. Of course, it would create a mountain of paperwork.

06:36 DaemonFC; We'll see how things go later this month before I seriously start looking into this.

06:37 phanes; there are many like you

06:37 phanes; it's not "special"

06:37 mjg59_; phanes: So is the blog under the name of "Jerry Thibodeau" under your real name?

06:37 phanes; it's just incredibly damaging to anyone

06:37 phanes; mjg59_, not anymore

06:37 mjg59_; Was that ever your real name?

06:37 phanes; and to be clear I did no "justification of my actions" because I had no actions to justify, this is another misrepresentation you have created

06:38 DaemonFC; There's not much I can do about my SSN, but it should at least make people work harder to see what my ex left me with.

06:38 phanes; mainly because you are a damaging liar, unique in that aspect, that could best serve society by ceasing to exist because you cannot recover

06:38 phanes; *uninique

06:38 phanes; dammit

06:38 phanes; *ununique

06:38 mjg59_; Dude, I don't have a website criticising my ex using a fake name to refer to myself

06:39 phanes; your bullshit doesn't work on me

06:39 mjg59_; You do

06:39 mjg59_; All my past is there under my name

06:39 phanes; i dont have a website criticising my ex

06:39 phanes; that is another sophistry you created because you are so shamed by the reality of what you are that you have to renarrative anyone who puts any genuine light on you

06:39 mjg59_; http://punches-pawloski-fiasco.blogspot.com/search/label/An%20Appeal%20to%20Logic isn't criticism?

06:39 TR Bot; An Appeal to Logic | The Truth about the Punches-Pawloski Engagement

06:40 phanes; every contribution you have ever made to any other life than your own has damaged that life

06:40 phanes; now like i said, listen, you're not unique in that. there are lots of people like you in the world and it's a contributing factor to reactionary genesis of ethical frameworks through history

06:41 mjg59_; It's weird that every time someone points out you having done something bad, you literally refuse to to address that

06:41 phanes; at the same time though, you've spent up any utility and you would best serve everyone, especially here, by emulating the cessation of your existence

06:42 mjg59_; You may not like my behaviour, but I'm willing to address what I've done in the past and either justify that or explain how I've changed

06:42 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_ stalks irc here

06:42 schestowitz[TR]; no good intention

06:42 schestowitz[TR]; just seeking revenge

06:42 schestowitz[TR]; because we 'blew his cover'

06:42 phanes; if you find something I actually did, sure, we can talk about it, but what you describe as something that "points out me having done something bad", so far, it's been you just twisting details around and misusing descriptors to cast a false light, which is a hallmark character flaw you possess

06:42 phanes; false light is probably the best description of what you do

06:43 phanes; because you take parts of real events and modify the way you describe it so that people will hear a description that misrepresents what happened, and you do this deliberately

06:43 phanes; it is a deception that only works on very small minded people

06:44 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: typo

06:44 schestowitz[TR]; you wrote simping

06:44 schestowitz[TR]; not pimping

06:45 phanes; all you have is fabricated scandals

06:45 phanes; all you will ever have is that

06:45 phanes; it's all you are

06:45 phanes; it's all you've ever had about anyone you've gone after

06:45 DaemonFC; I suppose that I could say I need a new Social Security Number because I'm a victim of domestic violence.

06:46 DaemonFC; It's been established that someone I was dating committed domestic violence and is a fugitive.

06:49 mjg59_; phanes: Was http://punches-pawloski-fiasco.blogspot.com/ written by you?

06:49 TR Bot; The Truth about the Punches-Pawloski Engagement

06:49 phanes; mjg59_, ill just leave it at this. There are zero cases of rehabilitation of someone with your disorder. They don't get better. They get worse. Any attempt to help you would provide you knowledge of how your behaviours identify your disorder to people who know what to look for.

06:50 DaemonFC; I'd like to pull a Gene Takovic and go work at a Cinnabon in Omaha.

06:50 DaemonFC; Just disappear and start over.

06:50 phanes; NPD can't be fixed by professional help. You could learn some ways to emulate a complete person that would prevent you from causing as much harm to others. That's about it.

06:50 DaemonFC; That was a lot easier 30-40 years ago.

06:50 mjg59_; phanes: It's a pretty easy yes or no question, and avoiding it just looks weird

06:51 phanes; I'm not just talking shit on that mjg59_, feel free to consult with a clinical psychologist on the recovery possibilities for NPD.

06:51 phanes; mjg59_, nah, I just recognize what you're trying to do because I'm much, much smarter than you are.

06:52 phanes; Your inquiry is unimportant and malicious.

06:52 mjg59_; phanes: If you want to avoid answering a question, that's your right, but it does make it clear to observers that you're avoiding answering the question

06:53 mjg59_; phanes: But also your model of me is pretty weirdly wrong? I don't actually care about whether you're smarter than me or not. I'm happy in life. People around me inspire joy. There's just no universe in which your mental capabilities influence that.

06:53 phanes; mjg59_, Anyway, like I said, if you plan on avoiding the absolute living hell that you're creating, the best hope you can goal for with a therapist is to learn how to emulate a whole person to avoid causing damage to the people that you believe you care about.

06:53 mjg59_; I'm smart enough to be happy. That's really all I care about.

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06:53 TR Bot; Sirius Open Source: Lets Waste 50,000+ British Pounds on Amazon Clown Bills Even Though We Already Have Our Very Own Servers and Racks | Techrights

06:54 mjg59_; You've had a long time to follow through on your threats to impair my happiness, and so far you haven't succeeded - I'm actually doing much better than I was a year ago.

06:55 phanes; I said I would hold you to justice. Your destruction is self-made.

06:55 phanes; Your filter is broken

06:55 schestowitz[TR]; exactly

06:55 mjg59_; I'd mentioned your weird internet behaviour to a friend like 6 months ago and he asked me whether anything had happened when I saw him this weekend, and I realised that literally the only times I'd thought about you were when you appeared here

06:55 schestowitz[TR]; rianne just said you are the one who snitched to her boss

06:55 phanes; It's not me you should be thinking of

06:55 schestowitz[TR]; "a woman's gut feeling," she says now

06:55 schestowitz[TR]; "you can never ignore a woman's gut feeling"

06:56 schestowitz[TR]; you stalked our channels for years

06:56 schestowitz[TR]; maybe taking notes

06:56 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Why would I snitch to Rianne's boss?

06:56 schestowitz[TR]; you are unhappy and bitteer

06:56 phanes; at the end of the day you're a pityable thing, you will never experience life like most people you meet

06:56 schestowitz[TR]; and you have a track record of attacking people

06:56 schestowitz[TR]; and openly saying you want to stab them

06:56 schestowitz[TR]; even 17 years ago

06:56 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: I'm not actually unhappy

06:56 schestowitz[TR]; when you were still hostile to trans people

06:57 mjg59_; Bitter in places, perhaps

06:57 schestowitz[TR]; did you email thew company?

06:57 schestowitz[TR]; yes or no?

06:57 schestowitz[TR]; waiting

06:57 mjg59_; I have no idea who Rianne's boss is

06:57 schestowitz[TR]; it's a yes tank

06:57 schestowitz[TR]; sande schoen

06:57 mjg59_; So no

06:57 schestowitz[TR]; *danke

06:58 schestowitz[TR]; you did not anseer the question

06:58 schestowitz[TR]; <mjg59_> I have no idea who Rianne's boss is

06:58 schestowitz[TR]; I said company

06:58 schestowitz[TR]; not boss

06:58 schestowitz[TR]; your answer was a give<away

06:58 mjg59_; 06:55 < schestowitz[TR]> rianne just said you are the one who snitched to her boss

06:58 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Simping is a word.

06:58 phanes; stop teaching him how to lie better roy

06:58 mjg59_; Who are you accusing me of emailing

06:58 mjg59_; It's very unclear

06:58 schestowitz[TR]; you did it

06:58 schestowitz[TR]; you did not answer a binary question

06:58 mjg59_; Have I ever sent an email to your company? Probably not, but I don't have archives from more than about 10 years ago, so I can't say for certain

06:59 schestowitz[TR]; you tried to change the question

06:59 schestowitz[TR]; and then answers something I hadn't asked

06:59 schestowitz[TR]; son of a bitch you ar

06:59 schestowitz[TR]; ekill yopurself

06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

06:59 mjg59_; I literally have nothing against Rianne, why the fuck would I email her boss?

06:59 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> I'm smart enough to be happy. That's really all I care about.

06:59 phanes; because you're a horrible person that lies about people and do not experience empathy

06:59 schestowitz[TR]; <mjg59_> I literally have nothing against Rianne, why the fuck would I email her boss?

06:59 DaemonFC; Smart people usually aren't happy.

06:59 schestowitz[TR]; you change the question AGAIN

06:59 schestowitz[TR]; not about bosss

06:59 schestowitz[TR]; not about RIANNE

7 AM, January 11

07:00 schestowitz[TR]; I asked:

07:00 DaemonFC; As a rule, the more you understand about how the world works, the more depressed you get.

07:00 schestowitz[TR]; <schestowitz[TR]> did you email thew company?

07:00 schestowitz[TR]; you did

07:00 schestowitz[TR]; maybe anonymously

07:00 mjg59_; 06:58 < mjg59_> Have I ever sent an email to your company? Probably not, but I don't have archives from more than about 10 years ago, so I can't say for certain

07:00 schestowitz[TR]; shame on you

07:00 schestowitz[TR]; you attacked rianne's parents too

07:00 schestowitz[TR]; kill yourself

07:00 DaemonFC; Not all depressed people are of above average intelligence.

07:00 DaemonFC; But many are.

07:00 schestowitz[TR]; she supports her parents

07:00 DaemonFC; The people who have the most horrible cases of depression have been some of the smartest people I know.

07:01 phanes; eh DaemonFC the numbers don't actually align with your assertion of about intelligence/depression correlation

07:01 DaemonFC; Like my Aunt. The one who let that nutbag, Keith, and his "sex change" ruin her life.

07:01 phanes; its more of a bell curve

07:01 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: I've literally just said twice that I didn't email your company?

07:01 DaemonFC; And never got over it even though she didn't die until decades later.

07:01 phanes; people on the upper end of the chart tend to be happier than the general pop

07:01 DaemonFC; I don't know why you would like one nutcase ruin your whole life.

07:01 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Not within recent history, at least. I can't promise I never corresponded with someone there.

07:02 DaemonFC; If Mandy flaked out on me and ran off to "become a woman" I would probably get over it at some point before I died.

07:02 schestowitz[TR]; maybe you and buffy should crowdsource food for 70+ year olds

07:02 DaemonFC; It wouldn't be immediately, but it wouldn't still be ongoing major depression in 30 years.

07:02 schestowitz[TR]; <mjg59_> schestowitz[TR]: Not within recent history, at least

07:02 schestowitz[TR]; ouch

07:02 schestowitz[TR]; so you did contact

07:02 schestowitz[TR]; busted

07:02 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Weird for you to spend so much time re-posting Pocock and then tell me to kill myself

07:03 phanes; im still unsure of what to make out of the pocock thing

07:03 schestowitz[TR]; changing subject

07:03 AdmFubar; another episode of "as the techrights spins"

07:03 schestowitz[TR]; after swatting people

07:03 DaemonFC; I'm not thrilled about John, but I am taking steps to put it behind me and bury it.

07:03 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_ is an online swatter

07:03 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: I have not contacted your company within the past 11 years, which is the email archive I have to hand

07:03 DaemonFC; In the mean time, I'm not letting it depress me to the point of borderline suicidal depression.

07:03 DaemonFC; How many years are you going to let that person steal from you?

07:03 DaemonFC; At a certain point, you have to move on.

07:04 phanes; DaemonFC, amen

07:04 phanes; you become someone's prisoner if you let them live in your head

07:04 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: I'm not going to absolutely assert I've never emailed someone there, because then if it turns out I have you'll use that as some sort of gotcha

07:05 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: But in the past decade? No.

07:05 phanes; on one hand, im like 90% sure what pocock is doing is a trauma response and i think he's genuinely trying to expose some horrible shit that went on in the debiansphere

07:05 TR News; AWS Has Only Harmed Sirius (Financially at Least) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/11/clown-harmed-sirius/

07:05 TR Bot; Blog Archive AWS Has Only Harmed Sirius (Financially at Least)

07:05 phanes; on the other, his approach makes it almost impossible to wrangle a coherent narrative out of his labors

07:06 schestowitz[TR]; biab

07:07 phanes; i get the general impression that he is in some form of distress and am unclear on how or if i can help him

07:14 TR News; Quiet lately gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20230110_quiet_lately

07:17 schestowitz[TR]; latest of about pell

07:17 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights-news> "While Cardinal Pell was known for his skepticism about climate change, I will always be grateful for donations of surplus fileservers from the dioecese for me to recycle with Debian GNU/Linux." https://danielpocock.com/cardinal-george-pell-tribute/

07:17 TR Bot; Cardinal George Pell: a brief tribute

07:18 schestowitz[TR]; "Pell in 2018 was found guilty of various sexual offences: the convictions were later quashed by the High Court of Australia in 2020"

07:18 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Pell

07:18 TR Bot; George Pell - Wikipedia

07:18 schestowitz[TR]; "During his tenure as Archbishop of Melbourne, Pell set up the "Melbourne Response" protocol in 1996 to investigate and deal with complaints of child sexual abuse in the archdiocese."

07:19 schestowitz[TR]; "Pell died of cardiac arrest at Salvator Mundi hospital in Rome following surgery to his hip on 10 January 2023, at the age of 81"

07:20 schestowitz[TR]; yesterday

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07:21 TR News; "That doesnt mean that Im unhappy my day-to-day life is full of joy! But its a lifestyle where you can blink and miss years, and I dont want to spend too much time like this" gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20230110_quiet_lately

07:24 immibis; I am now on the fediverse (private instance) and why is the user experience absolute dogshit

07:26 immibis; why is it not just a gossip protocol, why do you have to be deliberately pushed stuff

07:26 immibis; why do other servers have to accept your follows

07:27 schestowitz[TR]; fediverse usability is awful

07:27 schestowitz[TR]; ponder this

07:27 schestowitz[TR]; 1) do you see replies easily?

07:27 schestowitz[TR]; 2) can you search easily?

07:27 phanes; immibis, all of that tech is designed for narrative control

07:27 schestowitz[TR]; 3) are the topics partitioned?

07:27 schestowitz[TR]; 4) can you use it fast?

07:28 DaemonFC; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-03-10/america-s-tax-code-leaves-black-people-behind-dorothy-brown

07:28 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?

07:29 phanes; social media has over the last few years turned into something that is a constant psychological bombardment of influence

07:29 DaemonFC; Low income workers are the ones who lose the most by not having a 401(k) because there is a special dollar-for-dollar tax credit for contributions to a 401(k).

07:29 DaemonFC; So if you aren't contributing a dollar to your retirement account, you're paying it to the IRS instead.

07:30 DaemonFC; You're paying 50 cents to the IRS. Worse, you will have nothing in the retirement plan and lose the employer match.

07:30 schestowitz[TR]; phanes: : call it social control media

07:30 DaemonFC; So you screw yourself three ways by choosing to buy cigarettes, alcohol, and weed, instead of setting some money back in that account.

07:30 phanes; doesnt 401k contribution detract from your total income though DaemonFC

07:30 schestowitz[TR]; don't use the owners' vobabulary

07:30 schestowitz[TR]; it's antisocial and opposite of me dia

07:30 DaemonFC; <phanes> doesnt 401k contribution detract from your total income though DaemonFC

07:30 DaemonFC; Yes and no.

07:30 schestowitz[TR]; it serves to distract from real media

07:30 DaemonFC; Throughout the year, the 401(k) comes out of your paycheck, sure.

07:31 phanes; schestowitz[TR], i unfortunately don't have an actionable solution for it

07:31 DaemonFC; But it comes out of pre-tax dollars, so it immediately lowers the amount of tax as well, then at the end of the year, you may qualify for the Retirement SAVERS Credit for low income workers.

07:31 phanes; schestowitz[TR], with unlimited resources I couldn't get rid of it

07:31 DaemonFC; So you get to keep that credit.

07:31 DaemonFC; It's not refundable, but it can end up canceling all or most of what you'd owe in income tax.

07:32 phanes; DaemonFC, sounds great until you try to buy a house

07:32 DaemonFC; So you can actually have a string of years with almost no federal income tax if you're contributing to a retirement plan.

07:32 DaemonFC; Well, that's an interesting thing, because you can pull the money out of the retirement plan and buy a house with it.

07:32 schestowitz[TR]; in the west almost nobody buys a first house with cash

07:32 DaemonFC; You can do that once for your first house.

07:32 schestowitz[TR]; either mortgage, or sell house1, buy house2

07:32 DaemonFC; And you don't have to pay the penalty tax.

07:33 DaemonFC; So you'd only lose the SAVERS credit in the year you do that.

07:33 phanes; yeah if you're buying a house you're either inheriting it or getting a mortgage in the US

07:33 DaemonFC; So you can use a 401(k) as a way to buy a house with the IRS and your employer helping out, a lot.

07:33 phanes; not if you want to live in it

07:33 phanes; i mean most people doing that would get a house eventually

07:33 DaemonFC; Well, if you're smart you'll wait until it's a substantial down payment and interest rates are lower.

07:33 phanes; they'll just be too old to live their lives in it

07:34 phanes; you can't time the market

07:34 DaemonFC; Enough of a down payment, at minimum, to avoid PMI on the mortgage.

07:34 DaemonFC; Well, you will know when you can avoid PMI.

07:34 DaemonFC; Because that's a 10% down payment.

07:34 phanes; its like having kids, if you wait for the right time you wont ever have them

07:34 phanes; investment is the same way

07:34 phanes; nobody who tries to time the market wins

07:34 DaemonFC; So if you don't have enough to avoid PMI, you don't want to put down on the house yet anyway.

07:35 immibis; schestowitz[TR]: you know that IRC is also a fediverse

07:35 immibis; right?

07:35 DaemonFC; Because then you have to wait until you wipe out 21% of the mortgage and write the bank telling them to cancel the PMI.

07:35 phanes; eh, just pay off enough equity in the house where the pmi falls off

07:35 schestowitz[TR]; immibis: no

07:35 schestowitz[TR]; slack and discord are like irc

07:35 phanes; no theyre not

07:35 DaemonFC; And by that point, you're 6.5 years in or so, and you've paid an extra $200-300 a month for fuck all.

07:35 schestowitz[TR]; fediverse is slow motion irc

07:35 immibis; do you see replies easily? yes (on both). Can you search? no (on both). Are the topics partitioned? yes (on both). Is it fast? depends on your client...

07:35 schestowitz[TR]; with TERRIBLE UI

07:35 DaemonFC; So those nothing down mortgages end up costing you about $20,000 in PMI.

07:35 phanes; slack and discord are weird javascript no-protocol emulations of IRC at face value but they're completely different beasts under the hood

07:36 DaemonFC; And that's if you write to them and tell them to cancel it.

07:36 immibis; schestowitz[TR]: mortgages are how they make you sell yourself into slavery and then claim it was voluntary.

07:36 schestowitz[TR]; they also suck ram

07:36 DaemonFC; Many people who don't know any better never do that.

07:36 schestowitz[TR]; immibis: yes

07:36 schestowitz[TR]; strudent loans too

07:36 schestowitz[TR]; activism killers

07:36 immibis; vOlUnTaRy TrAnSaCtIoNs.

07:37 immibis; try pointing out to people that technically, black slavery was also voluntary, because the slave could have chosen to just not do the work and get shot instead

07:37 schestowitz[TR]; i keep gettingh bombarded with loan offers

07:37 DaemonFC; Yeah, I got some.

07:37 DaemonFC; Bank of America and Wells Fargo offered me some.

07:37 phanes; no, mortgages are important

07:38 phanes; if we didn't have that function we'd have formed a weird serfdom style society by now

07:38 DaemonFC; They said low down payment no PMI if I plant myself in a black neighborhood where I'll never get out and will probably lose real estate value if it goes substantially either way.

07:38 DaemonFC; Woohoo.

07:38 DaemonFC; You could get lucky.

07:38 DaemonFC; Some do.

07:39 DaemonFC; Have mjg59_ show up and offer you 5x what it's worth so he can ironically live in your neighborhood with his white hipster friends from Microsoft.

07:39 DaemonFC; But that's unlikely unless you're on real estate they want bad, like Chicago.

07:39 mjg59_; You know, I don't think I actually know anyone who works for Microsoft

07:39 DaemonFC; You communicate with them on Elon's Shitter quite a lot I think.

07:40 mjg59_; I talk to you a bunch, but calling you a friend seems inaccurate

07:41 DaemonFC; Do your friends or enemies get the daydreams about stabbing them?

07:41 mjg59_; Oh, I haven't wanted to figuratively stab anyone for a long time

07:41 mjg59_; In a much better place now, thanks

07:41 DaemonFC; And just how vivid are these daydreams. Where 1 is not vivid and 10 is the State of Illinois ignoring Robert Crimo III's kill list.

07:42 schestowitz[TR]; btw, it would be super-interesting to see the corporate interests and emails above his pay grade (microsoft.com, intel.com and redhat.com emails) leading up to a) work on and b) push into Linux mainline of UEFI 'secure boot' Trojan horse

07:42 DaemonFC; :)

07:42 schestowitz[TR]; the poison pilll emails

07:42 mjg59_; "are"?

07:42 schestowitz[TR]; he was controlled or commandeered by the salary

07:42 schestowitz[TR]; but he played ball

07:42 mjg59_; Man

07:42 schestowitz[TR]; participated after nasty blog posts

07:42 phanes; yeah its probably easier when you can just virtue signal for a little bit after doing shitty things and then re-up on supply from practical strangers

07:42 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> In a much better place now, thanks

07:42 mjg59_; I did all of that work at Red Hat

07:42 schestowitz[TR]; transphobia and violence

07:42 DaemonFC; Just screaming into a pillow?

07:42 DaemonFC; Primal scream therapy?

07:42 mjg59_; I promise you the salary was not compelling

07:42 schestowitz[TR]; and calls to destroy fs people, inc. Perens

07:42 schestowitz[TR]; would be interesting for hisoptricalk reasons

07:42 schestowitz[TR]; some of these emails he never saw

07:42 schestowitz[TR]; above his pay grade

07:43 schestowitz[TR]; maybe intekl/mms/red hat managers agreeing to attack general-purpose computing

07:43 schestowitz[TR]; then finding a nasty person to do the diustry work

07:43 DaemonFC; I'll confess to that. I've screamed into a pillow before.

07:43 mjg59_; That's a lovely fantasy you have

07:43 DaemonFC; It helps.

07:43 schestowitz[TR]; and cry foul when torvalds pushes back

07:44 DaemonFC; Ways to get it all out without causing anyone harm or distress, Matt.

07:44 DaemonFC; Scream into a pillow.

07:44 mjg59_; I can promise you that at the time we were working on this, Red Hat management didn't care at all

07:44 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot-meme/

07:44 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot/

07:44 TR Bot; [Meme] It Was Only a Matter of Time All Along | Techrights

07:44 TR Bot; Karma or Hubris? Is #TorvaldsWasRight a Thing Now? | Techrights

07:44 mjg59_; Because they didn't care about client systems

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07:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers

07:45 schestowitz[TR]; uefi '\secure' boot also bricked servers

07:45 schestowitz[TR]; links above

07:45 schestowitz[TR]; so they do care

07:45 immibis; I lived in a developed country (not the USA) so I didn't get bombarded with loan offers... my bank sent me a letter asking me if I wanted a credit card, I said sure why not, I have literally never used it for credit.

07:45 schestowitz[TR]; and should care

07:45 DaemonFC; mjg59_ breaking into your hotel room using the Android tablet in the wall, with a knife.

07:45 schestowitz[TR]; for NO ADDED SECURITY at all

07:45 immibis; (having an extra card doesn't hurt, just in case)

07:45 DaemonFC; Figuratively.

07:45 schestowitz[TR]; "server won't boot"

07:45 schestowitz[TR]; boss: "why?"

07:45 immibis; phanes: mortgages ARE the weird serfdom style society.

07:45 schestowitz[TR]; sys admin: "it says Microsoft says no!"

07:46 DaemonFC; "I told the hotel manager, who won't care. Not the people who might stay there and have some pervert controlling their blinds."

07:46 DaemonFC; "Man, Android is making me want to stab people. I think I might leave Google now."

07:47 phanes; immibis, no man im talking about a fucked of futurepast where nobody owns property except the megarich, and no one becomes rich enough to buy property because the rent is more than anyone earns in a year, creating a perpetual system of offbook debt where people are starving to keep a roof over their head

07:47 DaemonFC; RHEET RHEET RHEET RHEET RHEET

07:47 immibis; oh hey, is this the same phanes that destroyed freenode?

07:47 phanes; immibis, yes

07:47 immibis; phanes: yeah that's our society right now and it's called mortgages

07:47 immibis; gotta ignore people who destroyed freenode though, they're dicks

07:48 phanes; immibis, probably re: dicks

07:48 mjg59_; immibis: Yeah he turned up here because he really doesn't like me and thought roy was a useful idiot in that respect

07:48 DaemonFC; They're talking about 50 year mortgage now, which is basically all interest.

07:48 phanes; immibis, have you tried eating a bag?

07:48 TR News; ROCK Base triple-frequency RTK/GNSS base station works with Web3 GEODNET decentralized network ROCK Base triple-frequency RTK/GNSS base station works with Web3 GEODNET decentralized network

07:48 DaemonFC; Give up ownership and just rent from the bank.

07:48 DaemonFC; Anything to inflate home prices.

07:48 TR News; ROCK Base triple-frequency RTK/GNSS base station works with Web3 GEODNET decentralized network https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/01/11/rock-base-triple-frequency-rtk-gnss-base-station-works-with-web3-geodnet-decentralized-network/

07:48 TR Bot; ROCK Base triple-frequency RTK/GNSS base station works with Web3 GEODNET decentralized network - CNX Software

07:48 DaemonFC; They're running a special.

07:48 immibis; phanes: yeah, potato bag made of pastry, it's called a samosa, you should try eating something other than white bread one time

07:48 DaemonFC; Get a 50 year for the price of a 30 year. :)

07:49 DaemonFC; Motherfuckers.

07:49 immibis; DaemonFC: 30 year mortgages are not different. Just shorter.

07:49 phanes; do you see how the narcissist in his natural habitat attempts to sew chaos by creating divides of suspicion by leveraging a perceived potential ally

07:49 DaemonFC; Now if you want to figuratively hypothetically stab anyone.....

07:49 phanes; immibis, no man, i was talking about dicks. bags of dicks.

07:49 mjg59_; phanes: See uh the thing about free software people is that they mostly do actually hate what happened to freenode, and you were a deliberate and willing participant in that

07:49 immibis; You'd know all about eating dicks, old man. Anyway now I'll put you on /ignore for real

07:50 DaemonFC; <phanes> immibis, no man, i was talking about dicks. bags of dicks.

07:50 phanes; oh i hate what happened to freenode too. its a damned shame it had to happen.

07:50 DaemonFC; I sent MARISOL a bag of dick-shaped gummy candy.

07:50 mjg59_; And free software people may disagree with me on a whole bunch of things, but that doesn't mean that they'll inherently side with you

07:50 DaemonFC; Basically, eat a bag of dicks.

07:50 phanes; mjg59_, nah, you're just hoping to create divides and try to build up some momentum again because you're a narcissist and miss the entire point of why people hate you

07:51 phanes; "side with you"

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07:51 phanes; i mean look how this guy thinks

07:52 mjg59_; phanes: Dude you're the person who's obsessed with changing my life, I don't give a shit about yours

07:52 phanes; freenode really was awesome until lilo passed

07:52 DaemonFC; Sending someone a bag of candy, horrible.

07:52 DaemonFC; Harassing Roy's wife? SJW.

07:53 mjg59_; DaemonFC: When did I harass Roy's wife?

07:53 phanes; changing your life? obsessed with changing your life? huh? dude, do you read what youre writing? i dont give a fuck about your life. your life is like some kind of partial cognitive and emotional blindness with a cluster B label to define it, your life doesn't need changed, it's a slowly forming story of justice

07:53 immibis; mjg59_: It can be fun to just /ignore people and let them scream into the void

07:53 mjg59_; phanes: Uh you're the one with a website largely devoted to your opinions about my behaviour

07:53 TR News; The Sirius series is read by more people over time. Wiki page now visited about 1k times a day. Now we come to the most juicy parts. http://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_Source

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07:54 phanes; mjg59_, you are definitely one of the serial defamers exposed on the abuseoneline.org site if that's what you mean

07:54 mjg59_; phanes: A website written by you, right?

07:54 phanes; i really have been slacking on finishing that content

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07:55 phanes; its been a pretty busy year

07:55 mjg59_; phanes: And you do keep talking about how my life is going to be destroyed by this?

07:55 phanes; no

07:55 phanes; no that's just the dumber thing you said on my behalf when you couldn't address what was actually being said

07:56 phanes; see my previous comments about how your only real tool in life is false light and re-narratation

07:56 TR News; "I agree with all your points, but you overlook: even though MSFT doesn't compete in the social media space, all those social media players compete with Microsoft in multiple other spaces. Yes, it's a targeted lawsuit, aimed just off the side of the MSFT flank." https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=53091&page=1&cid=1286248#commentwrap

07:56 TR Bot; SoylentNews Comments | Seattle's Schools are Suing Tech Giants for Harming Young People's Mental Health

07:56 TR News; "What about mental health problems caused by using Microsoft products? Windows. Office. Outlook." https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=53091&page=1&cid=1286276#commentwrap

07:56 TR Bot; SoylentNews Comments | Seattle's Schools are Suing Tech Giants for Harming Young People's Mental Health

07:57 TR News; "Looking for a new market, Microsoft discovered that Power Point could be used for corporate presentations. This is why corporate meeting rooms always have the doors locked from the outside. It is a weeding out process. Those who survive the presentation are able to continue their corporate work and get promoted into management." https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=53091&page=1&cid=1286276#commentwrap

07:57 phanes; by the way, for anyone who's curious, NPD is almost universally co-existant with parental alienation

07:58 *phanes tips his hat on that and gets ready for bed

07:58 phanes; oh i should actually clarify

07:58 phanes; its a relational trauma during early childhood development involving a parental figure

07:59 phanes; so its a little more nuanced than "my dad and I don't get along" or "mom made me wear dresses to school" or something like that

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08:09 schestowitz[TR]; too much emphasis placed on childhood

08:09 schestowitz[TR]; some people overuse that to justifty overly cruel behaviour

08:09 DaemonFC; The schools could just ban students from taking their phone to class with them.

08:09 schestowitz[TR]; "i killed him because mama was mean to me"

08:09 schestowitz[TR]; (50 years ago)

08:09 DaemonFC; It's something.

08:09 schestowitz[TR]; it was like this before

08:09 schestowitz[TR]; when I was in school

08:09 schestowitz[TR]; why did that stop?

08:10 schestowitz[TR]; i reckon now schools even consent to carriers putting celltowers on their roofs

08:10 schestowitz[TR]; never mind the cancer

08:10 schestowitz[TR]; it helps the kid get their "nicotine"

08:10 schestowitz[TR]; from shanghai

08:10 mjg59_; What cancer?

08:10 schestowitz[TR]; cellphone towers cause cancer

08:10 mjg59_; No they don't

08:10 schestowitz[TR]; do some research 'doctor';

08:11 mjg59_; Point at the research that says that, 'doctor'

08:11 immibis; gas stoves cause asthma however

08:11 immibis; due to NO2 emissions

08:11 mjg59_; Yeah, there's a much clearer causal path there

08:12 immibis; I wonder if schestowitz[TR] knows what power level is absorbed by human body cells

08:12 immibis; also I wonder if he knows the cellphone frequencies are the same as the old analog TV frequencies (that's why they cancelled analog TV) but at much LOWER power levels

08:12 schestowitz[TR]; "The result of the study shows that the proportion of newly developing cancer cases was significantly higher among those patients who had lived during the past ten years at a distance of up to 400 metres from the cellular transmitter site, which has been in operation since 1993, compared to those patients living further away, and that the patients fell ill on average 8 years earlier. In the years 1999-2004, ie after five years' ope

08:12 schestowitz[TR]; ration of the transmitting installation, the relative risk of getting cancer had trebled for the residents of the area in the proximity of the installation compared to the inhabitants of Naila outside the area.

08:12 schestowitz[TR]; "

08:12 immibis; where was the outrage about TV broadcasting causing cancer?

08:13 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.researchgate.net/publication/241473738_The_Influence_of_Being_Physically_Near_to_a_Cell_Phone_Transmission_Mast_on_the_Incidence_of_Cancer

08:13 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/241473738_The_Influence_of_Being_Physically_Near_to_a_Cell_Phone_Transmission_Mast_on_the_Incidence_of_Cancer )

08:13 schestowitz[TR]; <immibis> where was the outrage about TV broadcasting causing cancer?

08:13 schestowitz[TR]; TVs do not transmit

08:13 schestowitz[TR]; they receice

08:13 schestowitz[TR]; they're tuner/receiver

08:13 immibis; you know they've done blind trials where a cellphone site was installed but turned off, and people complained about headaches and stuff

08:13 immibis; schestowitz[TR]: and the received signal comes from...?

08:14 schestowitz[TR]; towers

08:14 immibis; exactly

08:14 schestowitz[TR]; don't work under those towes

08:14 schestowitz[TR]; btw, carriers pay residents in many places

08:14 schestowitz[TR]; to accept a tower near to them

08:14 immibis; the signal strength is like 10000x greater. 100kW instead of 10W

08:14 schestowitz[TR]; because they rightly oppose

08:14 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, biab

08:14 schestowitz[TR]; got rms emails

08:14 immibis; due to the inverse square law, that means you can get the same effect from 100x as far away

08:15 immibis; that means if the cellphone tower is hurting you at 400m, the TV tower is hurting you at 40km

08:15 schestowitz[TR]; the phone is near the brain

08:15 schestowitz[TR]; biab

08:15 schestowitz[TR]; i need to move on

08:15 immibis; so you're complaining about phones then not towers

08:15 schestowitz[TR]; towwers= persistent

08:15 schestowitz[TR]; phone = not

08:16 schestowitz[TR]; having said that

08:16 schestowitz[TR]; "modern" and "smart" ones do 5g and upwards

08:16 schestowitz[TR]; the intensity is increasing

08:16 schestowitz[TR]; also flammable batteries

08:16 schestowitz[TR]; and they do explode sometimes

08:16 schestowitz[TR]; the old phones had a large battery

08:16 schestowitz[TR]; low voltage

08:16 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: That does not appear to have been published in a well known journal

08:16 schestowitz[TR]; lasted weeks

08:17 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: : neither have you

08:17 mjg59_; I actually have, but thanks

08:17 schestowitz[TR]; biab, this is back to old flamewars

08:18 schestowitz[TR]; usualyl. ends up like, "you get more from the microwave or CT scanner anyway"

08:18 schestowitz[TR]; which is to say,"yes, ok, it dopes cause cancer, but let's resort to relaticvism"

08:19 immibis; make up your damn mind, is it towers or phones?

08:19 immibis; if it's phones why are you complaining about towers

08:19 mjg59_; Walking in the sunshine causes cancer

08:19 immibis; if it's towers then as we established, TV is much worse and nobody complained

08:19 mjg59_; Unambiguous

08:19 phanes; it doesn't need to be published in a journal to have merit

08:19 immibis; if phones are the problem, you should actually be GLAD to live near a tower because your phone transmits with less power

08:19 phanes; im not saying it has merit, i dont know, im saying the qualifier is a false criteria

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08:20 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Do you even have an Erdos number?

08:21 schestowitz[TR]; ask for my bacon number

08:21 schestowitz[TR]; I did article and podcast with jono bacon

08:21 mjg59_; So did I, rather less generally interesting

08:22 mjg59_; It doesn't make you Natalie Portman

08:22 DaemonFC; Dr. Strangelove

08:22 DaemonFC; And how I learned to stop worrying and love the trap.

08:22 mjg59_; I need to make a film with Miguel just so I can have the most entertaining Erdos-Bacon number

08:23 phanes; its sometimes bizarre to me how people who cannot produce value think, they try to associate with people who did to try to inherit value by proxy

08:24 immibis; oh shut up, you produce no value and you try to inherit it by proxy

08:24 immibis; like you did with freenode

08:24 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz

08:24 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC

08:24 DaemonFC; Even NPR writes spam for the government lottery that pays out 1.8 cents out of every dollar.

08:24 DaemonFC; This is worse than their "Gates and Soda" column.

08:24 mjg59_; Huh my Erdos number is 3

08:24 mjg59_; Nice

08:24 immibis; do you prefer income tax or lottery tax DaemonFC ?

08:24 immibis; lottery tax is very libertarian

08:25 DaemonFC; I'd prefer it if they actually did gut the tax code of most of the deductions.

08:25 DaemonFC; Just have rates that people actually pay.

08:25 DaemonFC; You know.

08:25 phanes; immibis, im somewhat amused that you are still buthurt over freenode like it was some unprovoked thing that they weren't warned about, by me personally, for 10 years before it happened

08:26 phanes; im not sorry

08:26 schestowitz[TR]; wtf, just got "For future reference, ordering via the NHS app speeds up the process as the request goes straight to the clinicians queue. https://www.nhs.uk/nhs-app/"

08:26 TR Bot; NHS App and your NHS account - NHS

08:26 schestowitz[TR]; nhs sent me email

08:26 schestowitz[TR]; to say use an "app"

08:26 schestowitz[TR]; lol

08:26 schestowitz[TR]; boo

08:26 DaemonFC; Theoretically, Bill Gates pays 37% income tax just to the feds, but nah.

08:26 mjg59_; Man doing a movie with Miguel would only give me a 9, and Natalie Portman would still beat me

08:26 DaemonFC; Last year, I think I deducted us to 0.06%.

08:26 schestowitz[TR]; <mjg59_> I need to make a film with Miguel just so I can have the most entertaining Erdos-Bacon number

08:27 DaemonFC; I mean, this is really stupid.

08:27 schestowitz[TR]; did erdos eat bacon?

08:27 DaemonFC; Because inflation is a tax.

08:27 DaemonFC; They cut taxes, you get more inflation.

08:27 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: He wasn't observant, so unclear

08:27 schestowitz[TR]; erdos number does not count # of incidents/traversals through tree

08:27 schestowitz[TR]; and it's based on one overhyped scientist

08:27 DaemonFC; We pay all kinds of tax that aren't federal income tax, so it's a pea and shell game.

08:27 DaemonFC; Lots of taxes to the city and state, obviously.

08:28 DaemonFC; Then to Social Security and Medicare.

08:28 DaemonFC; "Fees" for the government to shuffle around papers and issue vehicle stickers.

08:28 schestowitz[TR]; erdos # also discriminates against people distant from maths

08:28 mjg59_; Oh huh if I do a move with RMS that'd make me equal with Natalie Portman

08:28 mjg59_; Goals

08:28 mjg59_; Er, movie

08:29 mjg59_; Not really compelling enough to rekindle that relationship tbh

08:29 DaemonFC; It's pretty fucking stupid that the city makes you pay a tax to get an actual sticker to put on your windshield that proves you paid a tax.

08:29 schestowitz[TR]; high erdos number = i touched obama

08:29 schestowitz[TR]; it does not say a lot

08:29 DaemonFC; BTW, the city tax sticker could be considered illegal no matter where you put it.

08:29 schestowitz[TR]; "i was touched by michael jackson"

08:29 DaemonFC; Illinois law says you committed a petty offense if you obstruct your view through the windshield.

08:30 mjg59_; You know that low Erdos numbers are the good ones, right

08:30 DaemonFC; But if you don't put the sticker on the windshield, the city can leave $200 tickets on your car every day until you do.

08:30 DaemonFC; So you break the law by not doing it, and by doing it. :)

08:30 schestowitz[TR]; i talked a lot about erdos numbers when i was 20

08:30 schestowitz[TR]; erdos is overhyped

08:30 schestowitz[TR]; the metric is a bad yardstick

08:31 schestowitz[TR]; erdos could not even travel to the us

08:31 DaemonFC; This is just technically true though. It would be interesting for an officer to be in court arguing that he based the stop on a person displaying a tax sticker paid to the city that says it has to be on that portion of the windshield.

08:31 schestowitz[TR]; because they were "unclear" on his stance on communism

08:31 schestowitz[TR]; he did not give a BINARY answer

08:32 DaemonFC; On taxes, we need to do two things, actually.

08:32 DaemonFC; Cut government spending in half and implement actual brackets that people pay.

08:33 TR News; Mastodon gone mainstream? dlvr.it has just added it! "New year, new network. Mastodon is here! Schedule and auto post your latest photos, updates, and promotions to Mastodon. Boost engagement by instantly sharing breaking news, opinions, memes, and more."

08:33 phanes; lol @ mastadon

08:34 TR News; Mastodon: inefficient means of communication. Also RAM- and CPU-hungry. Not good for the planet.

08:34 schestowitz[TR]; masta rhymes

08:34 DaemonFC; If you don't buy your sticker by May 1st, you still have to buy it, but the price doubles to $90 for a passenger vehicle.

08:34 DaemonFC; And if you escape them somehow for several years, you owe them $90 for each year you missed, and for the current year.

08:34 phanes; i have to confess i checked nondeterministic.computer the other day only to be disappointed that it was just mjg59_ and 2 other nobodies talking not to each other but mostly to themselves in an empty echo chamber

08:35 phanes; it was truly like a vision of the future

08:35 phanes; i dont mean a few comments to themselves

08:35 phanes; i mean endless weeks of self-chatter

08:35 mjg59_; phanes: Uh you understand how the fediverse works, right?

08:36 phanes; mjg59_, ok

08:36 mjg59_; phanes: The number of users on the local instance isn't important

08:36 mjg59_; phanes: That's like saying a website only has three local users, so nobody reads it

08:36 DaemonFC; It would be nice if they did E2E encryption, and then it could basically be used to replace email.

08:37 phanes; mjg59_, hey don't read too much into it, you do you

08:37 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: in a browser???

08:37 DaemonFC; GULAG and Microshit have basically started dropping almost all email that comes in from "non-whitelisted" domains.

08:37 schestowitz[TR]; mastoshit won't even work without js

08:37 DaemonFC; So that's nice.

08:37 mjg59_; phanes: I mean it's definitely no Twitter, I've only got 8.6K followers there

08:38 schestowitz[TR]; twitter = botfarms

08:38 mjg59_; phanes: But eh if you want to think that I'm only being read by two other people that's a belief you can have?

08:38 schestowitz[TR]; and most users not actyive

08:38 immibis; mjg59_: actually I set up pleroma today and I am having trouble getting it to show posts from other instances

08:38 schestowitz[TR]; among real users

08:39 schestowitz[TR]; "my twitter has x followers" = "my web site had x visitors this past year"

08:39 schestowitz[TR]; "impressions"!= reads

08:39 schestowitz[TR]; "impressions" = numbeer of people scrolling past, even without reading

08:39 schestowitz[TR]; because jack/musk put that in some pages in a timeline

08:40 schestowitz[TR]; twitter is one gigantic fake

08:40 schestowitz[TR]; very easy to game, too

08:40 immibis; which makes it even more embarassing if yours is lower than everyone else's in the thread, because everyone blocked you

08:40 schestowitz[TR]; youtube is almost as bad

08:40 immibis; what's the best way to make 300 fake twitter accounts

08:41 schestowitz[TR]; spamnil swells on viodeois where 95% of the views are fake/bots

08:41 mjg59_; immibis: Yeah interoperability is still kind of bad in that respect

08:41 schestowitz[TR]; he buys "viiews"

08:41 schestowitz[TR]; immibis: you can buy them

08:41 schestowitz[TR]; but it's meaningless

08:41 schestowitz[TR]; it's for insecure people

08:41 immibis; but you should make them not buy them

08:41 schestowitz[TR]; ikn case someone clicks on your name

08:42 schestowitz[TR]; and judges you by the faked number

08:42 immibis; it's not meaningless if you manipulate people into buying your product

08:42 schestowitz[TR]; otherwise nobody cares

08:42 schestowitz[TR]; immibis: buying needs money

08:42 phanes; meh. people attract similar people. there's some value from letting fake realities like twitter exist because it has slowly increased its fuckhead concentration

08:42 schestowitz[TR]; twitter does not buy your followers

08:42 schestowitz[TR]; fb does not make you friends

08:42 schestowitz[TR]; you can fake your social status

08:43 schestowitz[TR]; by making yourself LOOK popular (but lonely and miserable inside)

08:43 schestowitz[TR]; i never bought fake anything

08:43 schestowitz[TR]; those sites come and go anyway

08:43 phanes; i use different platforms for different things

08:43 schestowitz[TR]; x [followers/subs/friends] in platform [y] only mean anything until y implodes

08:43 schestowitz[TR]; then you start from zero again

08:43 phanes; like twitter is almost purely for sociopolitical awareness

08:43 schestowitz[TR]; friends are not like that

08:43 phanes; facebook is almost exclusively friends and family

08:44 schestowitz[TR]; I never lost a friend because some shareholders gave up on a lousy site

08:44 phanes; i dont think im even on instagram or tiktok or any of the others

08:44 schestowitz[TR]; phanes: FB is for social graphs

08:44 schestowitz[TR]; they outsourced the task

08:44 schestowitz[TR]; like schoolmates

08:44 schestowitz[TR]; tell us who was riends with you in schoopl 50 years ago

08:44 schestowitz[TR]; and mark all your relatives

08:44 schestowitz[TR]; -love, cia

08:44 phanes; yeah facebook is weird man, like, everyone i know is on it, so, if i want to keep in touch with some people i need to use it to stay in touch because, adults get busy and move around the world

08:45 schestowitz[TR]; *classmates

08:45 schestowitz[TR]; not schoomates

08:45 schestowitz[TR]; they just needed the data

08:45 schestowitz[TR]; the site is the UI

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08:45 schestowitz[TR]; for data entry

08:45 schestowitz[TR]; gamification of being informant on one's own family, colleaguwa wtx.

08:45 schestowitz[TR]; and people from the club, army, scouts, college..

08:45 phanes; im weird about which posts are public and which are friends-only

08:46 phanes; its like two different online realities

08:46 schestowitz[TR]; if you have friends, you have their phone #

08:46 schestowitz[TR]; phone them

08:46 phanes; mostly to protect fam from little mini-matthew garretts

08:46 schestowitz[TR]; "friends only"= them, the site, the gov.

08:47 schestowitz[TR]; we use self-hosted mumble at home

08:47 phanes; dude the gov is gonna watch some things sometimes

08:47 immibis; you should learn to manipulate these sites instead of ignoring them. who's doing the control on the social control media? not you, if you just avoid them

08:47 phanes; im not terribly worried about it

08:47 schestowitz[TR]; Michael Hayden said

08:47 phanes; what im more concerned about is how those sites are impacting our culture

08:47 schestowitz[TR]; (former CIA and NSA chief)

08:47 schestowitz[TR]; they follow not criminals

08:47 schestowitz[TR]; but... "interesting people"

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/01/former-cia-and-nsa-director-nsa-doesnt-just-listen-to-bad-people/385007/

08:48 TR Bot; Michael Hayden's Hollow Constitution - The Atlantic

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; it's about control

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; the more then know, the more they can weild for blackmaiul

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; world leaders, domestic politicians

08:48 phanes; you know what i don't get in this context

08:48 phanes; the CIA doesn't operate domestically

08:48 phanes; but

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; <immibis> you should learn to manipulate these sites instead of ignoring them. who's doing the control on the social control media? not you, if <immibis> you should learn to manipulate these sites instead of ignoring them. who's doing the control on the social control media? not you, if you just avoid themyou just avoid them

08:48 phanes; MKULTRA was a domestic project

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; in fediverse many sites manipulate

08:49 phanes; no one's ever explained that to me

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; the network as a whole

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; throttling, blocking, censoring

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; or threatening some users till they self-censor

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; phanes: nsa does

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; with gchq

08:49 phanes; yeah im highly resistant to that kind of thing

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; they swap the datasets

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; to bypass the rules

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; "you spy on yours, please spy on ours"

08:50 phanes; when im censored i become a much bigger problem

08:50 schestowitz[TR]; we->you

08:50 phanes; i do this deliberately and consistently

08:50 mjg59_; Fantasist

08:50 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/all-i-can-say-is-that-you-are-uninteresting-exchange-with-general-mic/

08:50 TR Bot; All I can say is that you are uninteresting! An exchange with General Michael Hayden, Director of the NSA from 1999-2005 | openDemocracy

08:50 phanes; mostly as disincentive

08:50 schestowitz[TR]; " All I can say is that you are uninteresting! An exchange with General Michael Hayden, Director of the NSA from 1999-2005"

08:50 immibis_; That's why I set up my own instance

08:51 schestowitz[TR]; ""his, surely, is a danger you can recognize? To be innocent means we have a claim in law. This is our status and it belongs to us. To be uninteresting means that our status, so far as whether or not we are surveyed, lies entirely in the hands of the sovereign and the intelligence services.

08:51 phanes; if im threatened or attacked i go to war

08:51 schestowitz[TR]; "I got hit in Germany at the very interesting Munich conference about suspicionless surveillance. But there is no law enforcement function here - it is an intelligence function. It is not based on suspicion of anyone. It is based upon seeking to identify a legitimate foreign intelligence target. "

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08:52 phanes; the way you fight these newer tactics is a direct, sanctions-focused approach to making every action they take more expensive

08:52 phanes; and you have to be consistent with it

08:52 immibis_; What's happening this week in Ltzerath makes me realize Germany is still controlled by the Nazis

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08:52 phanes; if youre consistent enough with it and loud enough with it, your consistency becomes part of their environment and they adapt

08:53 phanes; usually by leaving you alone

08:53 phanes; but if they get any hits in then simply stopping isn't enough

08:53 mjg59_; phanes: You've been at war with me for a while now and you've been less effectual than Russian in Ukraine

08:53 phanes; not in an environment with innumerable entities

08:53 phanes; mjg59_, im not at war with you, you're just a shit stain im wiping my arse with

08:54 immibis_; mjg59_ just wait though, IRCthulu 12.0 will achieve what the other 11 didn't!

08:54 mjg59_; phanes: A shit stain you've spent days researching to write a website about?

08:54 phanes; lol somebody's been reading

08:54 phanes; immibis_, ircthulu was pure awesome sauce

08:55 phanes; i _loved_ working on that project

08:55 mjg59_; phanes: I've dealt with some stubborn shit stains in my time (hello extremely big dog) and it's never taken me even an hour

08:55 immibis_; imagine making someone so upset that they develop *checks notes* an IRC logging service

08:56 mjg59_; phanes: But also, uh, pretty sure you're not supposed to wipe your arse with the shit stain. Kind of the opposite?

08:56 phanes; mjg59_, ok

08:56 *DaemonFC slaps mjg59_ around a bit with an Amazon Warehouse Deals Used - Acceptable Q Timex Reissue

08:56 mjg59_; phanes: Like, if you're wiping your arse with me, doesn't that imply I'm cleaner than your arse?

08:57 phanes; anyway, sanctions-based responses to these newer little fascists actually works

08:57 phanes; its expensive though

08:57 mjg59_; phanes: Otherwise you're smearing me all over your arse? I agree that wouldn't be great for me, but I don't think it improves your life either

08:57 phanes; mjg59_, ok we all saw happy gilmore, congratulations on identifying a mixed metaphore

08:58 schestowitz[TR]; <immibis_> What's happening this week in Ltzerath makes me realize Germany is still controlled by the Nazis

08:58 schestowitz[TR]; less closeted

08:58 schestowitz[TR]; the quiet ones come out of the closet

08:58 mjg59_; phanes: Anyway, looking forward to seeing the effect of your sanctions against me

08:58 phanes; mjg59_, i wasn't talking about you

08:58 mjg59_; Maybe 2023 will be the year of them taking effect

08:58 phanes; i was talking about responses to bad actor organizations

08:58 mjg59_; Or maybe 2023 will be a year where I continue enjoying life with those around me, furthering my career

08:59 mjg59_; Who can say?

08:59 phanes; no you're definitely going into a rabbit hole of obscurity at debian

08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

08:59 immibis_; literally half of German Twitter is saying what the police is doing is fine because they're just following orders. Where have I heard that before?

08:59 schestowitz[TR]; i osted a link yesterday

08:59 DaemonFC; This has to be one of the worst watches you can buy at that price range.

9 AM, January 11

09:00 mjg59_; phanes: Got a timeline for where I'm going to be obscure?

09:00 DaemonFC; Literally all they did was buy Seiko quartz movements and stick them in a cheap watch that looks like a 1970s Timex, but not built to the same standards.

09:00 schestowitz[TR]; [00:29] <techrights-news> braunschweig https://digit.site36.net/2023/01/09/two-men-died-in-german-custody-police-in-braunschweig-and-berlin-to-investigate-cause-of-death/ | Source: Site36

09:00 TR Bot; Two men died in custody in Braunschweig and Berlin, police investigate the cause Security Architectures in the EU

09:00 schestowitz[TR]; [00:30] <techrights-news> Pseudoscience like facial recognition... which is extremely inaccurate at scale (falsely marketed) https://digit.site36.net/2023/01/10/ai-act-german-government-in-favour-of-facial-recognition-but-against-lie-detectors/ | Source: Site36

09:00 TR Bot; AI Act: German government in favour of facial recognition, but against lie detectors Security Architectures in the EU

09:00 immibis_; You know, I've been running an ipfs node on my server for about 6 months and still never used IPFS

09:00 schestowitz[TR]; [00:30] <techrights-news> Pseudoscience like facial recognition... which is extremely inaccurate at scale (falsely marketed) https://digit.site36.net/2023/01/10/ai-act-german-government-in-favour-of-facial-recognition-but-against-lie-detectors/ | Source: Site36

09:00 schestowitz[TR]; [17:50] <techrights-news> "MIT-IBM Watson AI Lab"... so now they associate a lab that whitewashed pedophiles and Bill Gates with Thomas Watson, who admired Adolf Hitler. Wonderful!!! https://news.mit.edu/2022/sampling-pipelining-method-speeds-deep-learning-large-graphs-1129 see http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/

09:00 TR Bot; Busy GPUs: Sampling and pipelining method speeds up deep learning on large graphs | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology

09:00 TR Bot; Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights

09:01 phanes; mjg59_, yes

09:01 schestowitz[TR]; ICBM still reveres Watson

09:01 schestowitz[TR]; calls everything after him

09:01 schestowitz[TR]; he was a convict

09:01 mjg59_; phanes: Care to share?

09:01 phanes; mjg59_, no

09:01 mjg59_; phanes: Coward

09:01 phanes; mjg59_, ok, fly out here

09:01 mjg59_; phanes: Eh send me your birthdate and I'll fly you out here

09:01 phanes; we'll uh

09:01 phanes; talk it out

09:01 phanes; no no

09:01 phanes; you come here

09:02 mjg59_; You'll pay?

09:02 phanes; only if you don't tell anyone you're coming

09:02 TR News; (NEW): CPU-X: Find Your Linux Hardware Information in Pinch http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/y.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/y.gmi

09:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines CPU-X: Find Your Linux Hardware Information in Pinch

09:02 mjg59_; I'm not sure what the attraction for me paying to fly out to visit someone who wants to punch me is

09:02 mjg59_; Either you pay to fly me there, or I pay to fly you here

09:02 mjg59_; That's the fair way of doing it

09:03 phanes; do airlines even let you pay cash still?

09:03 immibis_; Why would you pay for someone to visit you who wants to punch you?

09:03 mjg59_; Yeah, you can still pay cash

09:03 mjg59_; immibis_: Because I can book him a connecting flight via Bullshit, Dakota and then cancel his connecting flight

09:04 immibis_; Ahahahahaha

09:04 phanes; no no, i want you to come out so we can talk it out. i just want to be on a security camera seen buying the ticket.

09:04 phanes; *don't want to be

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09:05 mjg59_; United let you book online and then choose "Pay by cash" and the reservation is created and you can just go to an airport and give them cash

09:05 immibis_; schestowitz[TR] your bot fucked up

09:05 mjg59_; immibis_: He's an expet coder because he has a CS degree

09:05 phanes; tell ya what, fly out and ill reimburse you when you get here

09:05 mjg59_; phanes: Yeah nah

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09:06 TR News; "My new neighborhood is predictably (for Southern California) car-centric, but our specific location allows us to walk to most of the places we regularly visit (schools, parks, the library, grocery shopping, etc). The only public transit option for leaving the neighborhood are bus lines" gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20230110_quiet_lately

09:06 phanes; Ok. Then I think I have clearly responded to your allegation that I'm a coward.

09:06 psydruid; the bot stabbed itself

09:07 TR News; "I'm looking toward this new year. We wil probably get some deception from these long-awaited games (Zelda TotK, Silksong, the list goes on...), but some upcoming releases caught my attention anyway." gemini://massena.smol.pub/2023

09:07 immibis_; No escaping? and then pretend this message is written on the weird blue cartoon guy with the weird facial expression and massive forehead

09:07 mjg59_; phanes: Put the money in escrow and we'll talk?

09:07 phanes; mjg59_, cash

09:07 mjg59_; phanes: Sure, as long as it's in escrow

09:07 phanes; why do you want a paper trail so badly

09:08 TR News; "I spent several years (primarily before the pandemic) involved in socialist organizing, but Ive since arrived at the opinion that that sort of work is not a good approach for achieving any of my goals" gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20230110_quiet_lately

09:08 mjg59_; phanes: If I show up, I want to be guaranteed the fare

09:08 phanes; its just two old friends talking it out

09:08 mjg59_; phanes: It turns out I don't trust you!

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09:08 phanes; are you hard up for money

09:08 mjg59_; It's money I could give to charity instead

09:08 phanes; uh huh

09:09 mjg59_; Hey if you say no then I'll just donate that fare to a charity instead, as long as you let me know where you live

09:09 psydruid; charity is euphemism for your mom?

09:09 phanes; yep no worries, i could even pick you up at the airport

09:10 psydruid; I like donating to charity too!

09:10 mjg59_; phanes: Which airport?

09:12 mjg59_; Ok, Frontier will do me a round trip to phanes for $141

09:12 phanes; Oh, maybe John Glenn Columbus International

09:12 phanes; sure man do it up, we'll grab a whiskey

09:12 mjg59_; phanes: Cool. Escrow that much?

09:12 phanes; nah ill reimburse when you get here

09:12 mjg59_; For Columbus, that's ~$200 on United

09:12 mjg59_; Yeah already said no to that

09:12 phanes; see, chump change

09:12 mjg59_; Ok, guess that's $141 to charity

09:13 immibis_; It sounds like you are taking him seriously mjg

09:13 immibis_; Fascists always argue in bad faith

09:13 phanes; oh am i a fascist now

09:13 phanes; or is that just the biggest word you knew immibis_ lol

09:16 mjg59_; Ok donated $141 to the Transgender Law Center

09:16 mjg59_; Sorry phanes, no whisky

09:16 phanes; oh that's too bad. let me know if you ever change your mind and want to chat.

09:16 mjg59_; Book the ticket for me or escrow the cost and I will

09:16 mjg59_; Fair conditions on my part

09:17 psydruid; phanes the phasist fascist

09:17 phanes; psydruid, i bet 20 bucks that immibis_ doesn't even know what that word means

09:18 psydruid; phanest, you'd win that bet convincingly

09:19 immibis_; mjg why are you humouring him

09:19 phanes; because i am lord bagira

09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

09:20 schestowitz[TR]; o bless de lord

09:20 phanes; which reminds me, y'all need to get on this tithing bandwagon

09:21 phanes; what's big G going for these days, 10%?

09:21 TR News; Only hours after they admitted security problem in the VERY VERY VERY secure Rust https://blog.rust-lang.org/2023/01/10/Rust-1.66.1.html

09:21 TR Bot; Announcing Rust 1.66.1 | Rust Blog

09:22 TR News; Gulag: Linux needs Rust to improves security. [Gulag then gets back to working on shaming Torvalds into putting back-doored ciphers inside Linux]

09:22 phanes; yep

09:22 schestowitz[TR]; *improive

09:23 phanes; interesting i was just talking the other day about how rust was a compromise of standards when newgen came out of the oven

09:23 mjg59_; immibis_: Eh it's an excuse to give money to a deserving charity

09:24 TR News; "Rust 1.66.1 fixes Cargo not verifying SSH host keys when cloning dependencies or registry indexes with SSH. This security vulnerability is tracked as CVE-2022-46176, and you can find more details in the advisory." https://blog.rust-lang.org/2023/01/10/Rust-1.66.1.html TRUST RUST! It oputsourced everything to Microsoft/NSA PROPRIETARY software. Download or git checkout from NSA/Microsoft... TODAY.

09:24 immibis_; You can just give the money to the charity

09:24 mjg59_; immibis_: But thanks, people have largely been humoring him here, it's good to see people who aren't going to agree with me in general point out that he's a giant asshat

09:25 immibis_; I thought that was pretty obvious actually

09:25 mjg59_; You'd think!

09:25 immibis_; What with destroying freenode because trans people existed

09:25 mjg59_; But Roy and Ryan haven't pushed back

09:25 phanes; eh? who said anything about trans people re: freenode

09:25 immibis_; They don't push back on anything. I could detail a plan to gas the Jews and they probably wouldn't bat an eye

09:26 schestowitz[TR]; freenode thing had nothing to do with trans

09:26 phanes; yeah that one surprised me too

09:26 phanes; first time ive heard that lie about me

09:26 schestowitz[TR]; this is a transphobe mjg59_ using something he exploits to distract from his CORPORATE-led and funded sabotage

09:26 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/

09:26 TR Bot; Matthew Garrett Admits Being a Transphobic Adult Before Choosing to Weaponise This to Defame and Then Cancel People Who Arent Transphobic | Techrights

09:26 mjg59_; I went to a pub and a friend of a friend (who I'd literally never met before) ran up to me and screamed CHRIS PUNCHES and I was worried until she explained that she was just expressing her joy that someone else had had to deal with phanes's bullshit

09:27 TR News; Sirius does not know what its doing. How can Sirius advise clients on hosting when it cannot even do its own hosting right? Colleagues tried to push AWS to clients, but I kept standing in the way, saying it would cost a fortune and erode security/privacy (over time I was vindicated as bills constantly soared) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/11/clown-harmed-sirius/

09:27 TR Bot; Blog Archive AWS Has Only Harmed Sirius (Financially at Least)

09:27 mjg59_; Literally nobody else I have ever had to deal with has inspired that response in others

09:27 phanes; yeah huge pieces of shit never like sanctions-based approaches

09:27 mjg59_; And I've been on the wrong end of Gamergate

09:27 TR News; Sirius Open Source has a severe "appeal to novelty" problem (sometimes a symptom of insecurity or irrational thinking) http://techrights.org/2023/01/11/freedom-is-hobbyist/

09:27 TR Bot; [Meme] Freedom is Hobbyist Anyway | Techrights

09:28 immibis_; schestowitz your accusation has even less substance to it than the twitter files, and that's saying something

09:28 TR News; Full context and background for the Sirius series. Connected to Techrights and Tux Machines due to a very dumb CEO who lies a lot. http://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_Source

09:28 TR Bot; Sirius Open Source - Techrights

09:29 immibis_; "oh no a person used to be a douche but now they're not. Let's punish them for not being a douche any more"

09:29 schestowitz[TR]; immibis: he said it himself

09:29 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/141011-never-miss-a-good-chance-to-shut-up

09:29 TR Bot; Quote by Will Rogers: Never miss a good chance to shut up.

09:29 immibis_; "let's punish someone for no longer being a douche"

09:29 phanes; that is literally the problem with their community

09:29 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: I regret the person I was in the past

09:29 schestowitz[TR]; when you were in debian wanting to stab people

09:30 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: If I could change who I was then, I would

09:30 schestowitz[TR]; did you want to stab trans people too?

09:30 immibis_; Does the logic apply in reverse too? If someone used to not be a douche but now they are, should they be rewarded for being a non douche in the past?

09:30 schestowitz[TR]; biab workout time

09:30 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: But I can't, so instead I do what I can now to make up for who I was then

09:31 phanes; https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/

09:31 TR Bot; Index of /database/Garrett, Matthew

09:32 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: But if you want to reject the idea people can get better, sure, that's an option?

09:32 phanes; it's not getting better if you're still doing it

09:33 mjg59_; phanes: Yeah you know the number of people who've asked me about your database?

09:33 phanes; all youve learned to do is remove the name from it in public so that they have less of a chance of suing you

09:33 phanes; mjg59_, why would that matter

09:33 mjg59_; phanes: Uh I've actually learned to be not transphobic under all circumstances

09:33 phanes; its an admirable virtue signal

09:33 phanes; but

09:34 phanes; what about how you handle conflict

09:34 phanes; a signal doesn't mean much if you're so provably unethical in your dealings

09:35 mjg59_; Yeah look from an external perspective the idea that your ethics are just fucked up is at least as plausible as me being fucked up

09:35 phanes; do you believe that morality is a popularity contest, like, you can spit on babies if you get 10 followers that day

09:35 mjg59_; Like

09:35 phanes; i would actually believe you if you said yes to that

09:35 phanes; based on other discussions

09:35 mjg59_; I'm not actually expending effort in convincing you of my virtue

09:35 phanes; nor should you

09:35 mjg59_; Because I genuinely don't care

09:35 phanes; please dont

09:35 phanes; it takes effort to unspin your re-narration

09:35 mjg59_; The people I care about give me feedback about my behaviour and I modify it based on that

09:36 phanes; when your supply runs out you try to reinvent yourself by reworking the narrative with a false light

09:36 phanes; ive seen you do this like 4 times now

09:36 phanes; it's not very original, just tedious, most NPDs do this

09:37 phanes; it's like you think you can change reality with sheer willpower and strategic word choices

09:39 mjg59_; I'm just still not clear on what you think your efforts are going to achieve

09:39 phanes; good

09:39 mjg59_; And you seem unwilling to share that?

09:40 phanes; ok

09:40 mjg59_; My life is pretty good? Do you expect that to change?

09:45 psydruid; an NPD will never have a good life, life is always shit and enemies are lurking at every corner

09:47 phanes; psydruid, what makes it so hard to treat is that they have to first become aware they have the problems that it is associated with before they realize how fucked up they're living

09:47 mjg59_; Seriously, just asking what expected bad outcomes are

09:47 phanes; most case studies on NPD are BPDs pretending to be NPDs or from a time when they could study people involuntarily in an asylum

09:48 phanes; like

09:48 mjg59_; Do I suffer professional badness? Do I have relationship problems? Do I fall foul of the law?

09:48 phanes; you'll never see someone go to a therapist's office and say "I have NPD and I want to get better so I can know what love feels like"

09:48 phanes; doesn't happen

09:48 phanes; when it does its usually someone who was abused by someone with NPD

09:49 mjg59_; Yeah I do actually know what love feels like

09:49 phanes; ok

09:49 mjg59_; Therapists agree on that

09:49 phanes; anwyay psydruid i wasn't going to point that part out, he just isn't going to get out of it

09:50 immibis_; [10:45] <psydruid> an NPD will never have a good life, life is always shit and enemies are lurking at every corner that explains phanes

09:50 phanes; huh

09:50 phanes; my life is awesome

09:50 phanes; i dont really have alot of enemies. i have rivals. ive had conflict. for sure. i am not conflict aversive.

09:50 mjg59_; The only way my life would be more awesome right now is if COVID would fuck off

09:51 phanes; nah

09:51 phanes; we know, man

09:52 phanes; people don't make up lies about strangers and colleagues alike on the internet for attention when their life is great

09:52 phanes; doesn't happen

09:52 mjg59_; Phew yeah you might be right but I don't do that so

09:52 phanes; ok. https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/

09:52 mjg59_; Lucky escape on my part

09:52 TR Bot; Index of /database/Garrett, Matthew

09:52 mjg59_; phanes: Point at the lies?

09:53 phanes; yeah, sure, ok

10 AM, January 11

10:06 phanes; like i said. tedious.

10:07 phanes; anyway schestowitzi dont get your NSA reference earlier, MKULTRA was a CIA project

10:07 mjg59_; waiting for you to point at the list of ies

10:07 psydruid; lots of abuse is happening online, it's a good thing that it's properly and publicly documented

10:08 mjg59_; psydruid: It's true, roy abuses a lot of people online, it's nice for him to document that on his website

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10:11 phanes; honestly i think techrights has alot of potential as an outlet that cuts through the weird alternate reality that gets weaved in tech, i just think the content and strategy needs a little work

10:12 phanes; like more fleshed out articles, more sourcing, a little shift in what gets focused on, maybe clean up the site theme

10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

10:25 mjg59_; Maybe have more than four stories on the front page?

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10:41 schestowitz[TR]; front page's top encourages minimalism

10:41 schestowitz[TR]; <phanes> anyway schestowitzi dont get your NSA reference earlier, MKULTRA was a CIA project

10:41 schestowitz[TR]; which one? hayden?

10:41 schestowitz[TR]; he headed both agencies

10:41 schestowitz[TR]; had heart attack some years ago, iirc

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10:42 schestowitz[TR]; pretended that because he opposed trump he was "ghood cop"

10:42 schestowitz[TR]; like bush ii did

10:42 phanes; hayden era was like 40 years after mkultra

10:42 schestowitz[TR]; i did not bring up mkultra

10:43 schestowitz[TR]; or connects it to cia psy-ops

10:43 schestowitz[TR]; nsa was not connected to that experiment

10:43 schestowitz[TR]; which incidentally' birthed' unamomber ted

10:43 schestowitz[TR]; blowback

10:43 schestowitz[TR]; literally

10:43 schestowitz[TR]; boom

10:43 phanes; my original point was that it's always confused me how the CIA says they only operate on foreign land strictly yet MKULTRA was both CIA and domestic

10:43 schestowitz[TR]; cia deals with foreign threats on paper

10:44 schestowitz[TR]; but many foreiners road the us

10:44 schestowitz[TR]; inc. foreign agents

10:44 schestowitz[TR]; but fbi deals with some

10:44 schestowitz[TR]; nsa is not operating the same

10:44 schestowitz[TR]; with many agents on the ground

10:44 schestowitz[TR]; they are more like data operators

10:44 schestowitz[TR]; unarmed

10:44 schestowitz[TR]; snowden worked for both agencies

10:45 schestowitz[TR]; via contractor for the latter

10:45 schestowitz[TR]; in the us even the agencies become private for-profit companies

10:45 schestowitz[TR]; wrong approach: "hey, debian, do you employ spies"?"

10:46 schestowitz[TR]; right approach: "hey, debian, do you have volunteers whose employer works for spies"?"

10:46 schestowitz[TR]; the answer is a resounding "yes!"

10:46 schestowitz[TR]; if you bring up the subject they get all awkward

10:47 phanes; that's ridiculous. why on earth would any intelligence agency motivated for operational supremacy try to pepper agents all throughout the centers of information technology during a human era where information technology created and sustained the literal tools of power

10:47 schestowitz[TR]; "yes, but only the GoodGuys(TM)"

10:47 schestowitz[TR]; in the us the cia does not even deny (and can CONFIRM) funded many tech companies

10:47 schestowitz[TR]; databases, social [sic] things, storage...

10:47 immibis_; Luckily.none of us are infiltrating them - only the NSA is - right? We let them like good sheeple

10:47 schestowitz[TR]; in israel it is overt

10:48 schestowitz[TR]; you don't know where the military starts and private firms end

10:48 schestowitz[TR]; see pegasus

10:48 schestowitz[TR]; in the uk it's somewhere in the middle

10:48 schestowitz[TR]; in chian the state is everything

10:48 schestowitz[TR]; in russia i'm not sure

10:48 immibis_; In Russia defenestration.

10:48 TR News; Sirius does not know what its doing. How can Sirius advise clients on hosting when it cannot even do its own hosting right? Colleagues tried to push AWS to clients, but I kept standing in the way, saying it would cost a fortune and erode security/privacy (over time I was vindicated as bills constantly soared) http://techrights.org/2023/01/11/amazon-clown-bills/

10:48 TR Bot; Sirius Open Source: Lets Waste 50,000+ British Pounds on Amazon Clown Bills Even Though We Already Have Our Very Own Servers and Racks | Techrights

10:49 TR News; "Microsoft has supported Matthew Garrett by proxy during his work to foist so-called Secure Boot onto GNU/Linux, in a way that requires binary-only software in your boot path, whose only purpose is to lock the user (userspace) out of low level access to the computer." http://techrights.org/2023/01/11/debian-technical-committee-suicide/

10:49 TR Bot; Matthew Garrett Appointed to Debian Technical Committee Nearly 17 Years After Saying Debian Made Him Want to Stab the Volunteers Working on it. (And Himself.) | Techrights

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10:50 schestowitz[TR]; minnie the moocher

10:51 TR News; "Container query units work the same as viewport units. 80cqi equals 80svi." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2023/100daysof-day78/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic

10:51 TR Bot; Day 78: container query units - Manuel Matuzovi

10:51 TR News; "The logical alternative for width is inline-size and the alternative for height is block-size" https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2023/100daysof-day77/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic

10:51 TR Bot; Day 77: block-size, inline-size, vi, and vb - Manuel Matuzovi

10:52 TR News; "I keep getting asked how my setup works, how I use tmux and nvim over ssh" https://carlosbecker.com/posts/workflow-pt1/ | Source: Carlos Becker

10:52 TR Bot; My workflow, part 1

10:52 TR News; "Filippo Valsorda has a neat SSH server that reports the GitHub username of the connecting client." https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/whoarethey | Source: Ayer

10:52 TR Bot; whoarethey: Determine Who Can Log In to an SSH Server

10:58 TR News; "improve server performance" https://boston.conman.org//2023/01/09.1 | Source: Sean Conner

10:58 TR Bot; An epiphany about bloated web pages might be the result of a dumb network - The Boston Diaries - Captain Napalm

10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

11 AM, January 11

11:00 immibis_; Microsoft was going to put us in the secure boot gulag no matter what

11:00 schestowitz[TR]; depends

11:00 schestowitz[TR]; not all of us

11:01 schestowitz[TR]; also:

11:01 schestowitz[TR]; there was antitrust complaints

11:01 schestowitz[TR]; the gulagtroll helped microsoft thwart it

11:01 schestowitz[TR]; without actually tackling the problem

11:01 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI#2013

11:01 TR Bot; UEFI - Techrights

11:01 schestowitz[TR]; 2013-12

11:02 TR News; "Lea explains how LCH is designed to represent the entire spectrum of what humans can see." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2023/ok-lch-im-convinced/ | Source: Jim Nielsen

11:02 TR Bot; OK LCH, Im Convinced - Jim Nielsens Blog

11:02 TR News; "Anyway, pretty much any remote work requires an Internet connection." https://qmacro.org/blog/posts/2023/01/09/working-from-a-narrowboat-internet-connectivity/ | Source: DJ Adams

11:02 TR Bot; Working from a narrowboat - Internet connectivity | DJ Adams

11:03 TR News; X Window System Basics https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/links/XWindowSystemBasics | Source: University of Toronto

11:03 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/links/XWindowSystemBasics

11:16 TR News; "So, when will the print book be in stores?" https://mwl.io/archives/22509 | Source: MWL

11:16 TR Bot; OpenBSD Mastery: Filesystems Print Status Michael W Lucas

11:17 TR News; "Recently a few of my Ubuntu 20.04 and Debian 11 servers failed to run an apt update" https://raymii.org/s/blog/Syncthing_apt_repo_keeps_complaining_HTTPS_certificate_could_not_be_validated.html | Source: Remy Van Elst

11:17 TR Bot; keeps complaining that the HTTPS certificate cannot be validated? - Raymii.org

11:18 TR News; "Intel introduced the 8086 microprocessor in 1978, and its influence still remains through the popular x86 architecture." http://www.righto.com/2023/01/the-8086-processors-microcode-pipeline.html | Source: Ken Shirriff

11:18 TR Bot; The 8086 processor's microcode pipeline from die analysis

11:19 TR News; Free, Libre, and Open Source Software. "I started a journey to build a better Mastodon client" https://nolanlawson.com/2023/01/09/retiring-pinafore/ | Source: Nolan Lawson

11:19 TR Bot; Retiring Pinafore | Read the Tea Leaves

11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

11:20 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/12/20/john-sullivan-leaves-fsf/

11:20 TR Bot; Former Executive Director John Sullivan Has Left the Free Software Foundation (FSF) | Techrights

11:21 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_John_Sullivan

11:21 TR Bot; William John Sullivan - Wikipedia

11:21 schestowitz[TR]; The Poo and the Poet (left, right) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_John_Sullivan#/media/File:Mjg59_and_johnsu.png

11:21 TR Bot; William John Sullivan - Wikipedia

11:21 schestowitz[TR]; so now it's just zoe all the way

11:22 schestowitz[TR]; i heard john was helping her catch up with things, not just her

11:22 schestowitz[TR]; a lot was on johns's shoulders

11:22 schestowitz[TR]; not many sites updates from them this past year

11:23 TR News; "All of the graphs are about Wizard Zines business selling zines" https://jvns.ca/blog/2023/01/10/some-business-graphs-for-2022/ | Source: Julia Evans

11:23 TR Bot; Some business graphs for 2022

11:26 TR News; "For years now I've been handling my local changes to upstream projects by committing them and rebasing on (Git) pulls, and it's been a positive experience." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/GitRebaseLocalChangesSetup | Source: University of Toronto

11:26 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/programming/GitRebaseLocalChangesSetup

11:26 TR News; "I have long wanted to write this article but I never knew how to structure it." https://two-wrongs.com/verifiable-software-development-estimations | Source: Chris

11:26 TR Bot; Verifiable Software Development Estimations

11:27 TR News; "I also wrote a bunch of automation so later editions get out a lot faster" https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/in-defense-of-testing-mocks/ | Source: Buttondown

11:27 TR Bot; In Defense of Testing Mocks Buttondown

11:31 TR News; "What we might think to be a settled truth often isn't." https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2023/compiled_and_interpreted_languages_two_ways_of_saying_tomato.html | Source: Lawrence Tratt

11:31 TR Bot; communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s). ( status 0 @ https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2023/compiled_and_interpreted_languages_two_ways_of_saying_tomato.html )

11:32 TR News; "Why is this significant? While we take great pride in the tools that we develop" https://blog.trailofbits.com/2023/01/10/open-source-contributions-2022/ | Source: Trail Of Bits

11:32 TR Bot; Another prolific year of open-source contributions | Trail of Bits Blog

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11:33 TR News; "Before I actually tried it, I expect the dict to start out with either two or three entries and end up with one or two, given that boolean True and False are actually ints with False being the same as zero." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/python/ZeroIsZeroAcrossNumberTypes | Source: University of Toronto

11:33 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/python/ZeroIsZeroAcrossNumberTypes

11:35 TR News; "Microsoft's RNDIS protocol, short for Remote Network Driver Interface Specification, is a proprietary USB protocol for virtual Ethernet functionality on computers." https://news.itsfoss.com/linux-disable-microsoft-rndis/

11:35 TR Bot; Linux is All Set to Disable Microsoft's RNDIS Drivers

11:36 TR News; AWS certification = authorised GUI memoriser for the next 24 months. Then it "expires"... like the GUI.

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11:51 TR News; Barry Boehm https://bertrandmeyer.com/2023/01/09/legacy-barry-boehm/ | Source: Bertrand Meyer

11:51 TR Bot; Bertrand Meyer's technology+ blog Blog Archive The legacy of Barry Boehm - Bertrand Meyer's technology+ blog

11:51 TR News; "Follow us wherever you get your podcasts" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2023/subscribe-wherever-you-get-your-content/ | Source: Jim Nielsen

11:51 TR Bot; Subscribe Wherever You Get Your Content - Jim Nielsens Blog

11:51 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/today_s_howtos.3.gmi

11:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

11:51 TR News; fortran https://craftofcoding.wordpress.com/2023/01/10/why-fortran-is-a-scientific-powerhouse/ | Source: Craft Of Coding

11:52 TR Bot; Why Fortran is a scientific powerhouse The Craft of Coding

11:52 TR News; "The Data team are using a strange and weird datastructure: the dataframe." https://csvbase.com/blog/1 |

11:52 TR Bot; Take the tools out of 'Data', but don't take the data out of the tools

11:53 TR News; Reminder: Facebook laid off 11,000 as part of (allegedly) 3 waves, so soon comes another 11,000 (Zuckerberg Lists), then another 11,000. FB is having a haircut.

11:54 TR News; "literally hundreds of years of analysis shows us" https://www.positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2023/01/09/why-the-discovery-of-behavioral-economics-means-you-need-to-uninstall-tiktok/ | Source: Positech Games

11:54 TR Bot; Why the discovery of behavioral economics means you need to uninstall tiktok. Cliffski's Blog

11:55 TR News; [Repeat] Privacy/Surveillance: "using cell phone data that allegedly showed both men" https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/03/politics/washington-power-substation-attacks/index.html | Source: CNN

11:55 TR Bot; Two men charged with attacks on four power substations in Washington state | CNN Politics

11:55 TR News; People still don't understand that one primary function of a cellphone is the device being used against its alleged 'owner'?

11:57 TR News; We should look up to and respect people who IN SPITE OF MASSIVE PEER PRESSURE do not carry mobile devices. Do not mock or ridicule them. They're likely a lot less "dumb" than the "pop culture" has us believe (shaming tactics, stigma. Those devices are NOT expensive. IT IS NOT ABOUT MONEY.

11:58 Moocher5254; nah

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11:58 Moocher5254; a Pixel with GrapheneOS however seems more reasonable

11:58 Moocher5254; but I like to be contactable

11:58 TR News; Corporate media typically ridicules people who do not obey or live by the implicit rules of corporations or rulers of the media

11:59 Moocher5254; assuming airplane mode works as intended, I see no issue with this

11:59 schestowitz[TR]; Moocher5254: yes, I tried it

11:59 schestowitz[TR]; it's still installed on one device here

11:59 schestowitz[TR]; but needs messing with screws to boot it

11:59 Moocher5254; ? hardware issue, not of GrapheneOS

11:59 schestowitz[TR]; and they put glue on those screws

11:59 schestowitz[TR]; to screw with you

11:59 schestowitz[TR]; no, some laptops

noon, January 11

12:00 schestowitz[TR]; they are programmed to not allow another bootloader

12:00 schestowitz[TR]; like seabios

12:00 schestowitz[TR]; even if you boot with key combinations

12:00 Moocher5254; Never heard of it

12:00 TR News; "We hope this conversation will prompt people to think deeply about their role individually" https://record.umich.edu/articles/journalist-jelani-cobb-to-discuss-the-half-life-of-freedom/ | Source: uni Michigan

12:00 TR Bot; Journalist Jelani Cobb to discuss The Half-Life of Freedom | The University Record

12:00 *schestowitz[TR] gets link

12:00 Moocher5254; I do expect Windows 12 to not have the BIOS option to disable secureboot though

12:01 schestowitz[TR]; https://grapheneos.org/faq

12:01 TR Bot; Frequently Asked Questions | GrapheneOS

12:01 schestowitz[TR]; https://old.reddit.com/r/GalliumOS/comments/8exz44/samsung_3_chromebook_wont_turn_on_after_removing/

12:01 TR Bot; Samsung 3 Chromebook won't turn on after removing write protect screw : GalliumOS

12:01 schestowitz[TR]; https://old.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/zwobrn/cant_install_grapheneos_on_pixel_4a/

12:01 TR Bot; Cant install GrapheneOS on Pixel 4a : degoogle

12:01 psydruid; Windows 12 will have significantly more marketshare than Windows 11

12:01 schestowitz[TR]; [warning: conde nast shit site]

12:01 schestowitz[TR]; https://old.reddit.com/r/tails/comments/pd56ha/cheap_chromebook_for_tails_setup_guide/

12:01 TR Bot; Cheap Chromebook for Tails (setup guide) : tails

12:01 Moocher5254; Cable issue on that Pixel

12:02 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: no, wiindows 14

12:02 psydruid; oh right

12:02 schestowitz[TR]; with wsl5

12:02 schestowitz[TR]; WSLg 5.01

12:02 schestowitz[TR]; they fake having 1.0

12:02 schestowitz[TR]; to make more press

12:02 psydruid; just before the huge leap towards windows 15

12:02 schestowitz[TR]; for OLD stuff

12:02 schestowitz[TR]; soon 1.00 deluxe

12:02 schestowitz[TR]; "celebrate, shills"

12:03 Moocher5254; Yes, they update OEM requirements still on Win11 and then seamless upgrade to Windows 12

12:03 psydruid; more nasty stuff

12:03 psydruid; https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/uorxye/windows_a_dying_breed_for_endusers/

12:03 TR Bot; Windows, a dying breed for end-users? : sysadmin

12:03 psydruid; conde nasty

12:03 Moocher5254; Thing is most people won't care

12:03 psydruid; that's true

12:03 psydruid; my mom doesn't care either

12:03 Moocher5254; I believe in spreading the existance of the message

12:03 psydruid; she just uses her phone for everything

12:04 Moocher5254; And supporting those who care

12:04 psydruid; like most people in my family

12:04 Moocher5254; Those who do not, I recommend Apple

12:04 Moocher5254; Because it is the "best"

12:04 psydruid; she has a laptop running GNU/Linux too

12:04 Moocher5254; (and not Windows)

12:04 psydruid; Kubuntu for now

12:04 Moocher5254; And the tech support guy is you

12:04 psydruid; I'll have to see what to move to from that on the next upgrade

12:05 psydruid; I need to do very little tech support for her

12:05 psydruid; things just work

12:05 Moocher5254; Ok, cool

12:05 psydruid; unlike when her Windows 7 got ransomwared

12:05 psydruid; and she kept bugging me about it for 2 years when I was abroad

12:05 psydruid; even though the computer defaulted to Kubuntu as well

12:06 schestowitz[TR]; emailed back rms this morning, about messaging and language

12:06 psydruid; so now she just won't get RansomewareOS

12:06 schestowitz[TR]; it was about the word "accessibility"

12:06 schestowitz[TR]; and what it means to people

12:06 schestowitz[TR]; rms says, focus on "ecurity"

12:06 schestowitz[TR]; as this is how he explains the issue to people in 20 secs

12:06 schestowitz[TR]; <Moocher5254> Thing is most people won't care

12:06 schestowitz[TR]; right

12:07 schestowitz[TR]; depends how you frame it

12:07 schestowitz[TR]; so you need to optimise the appoach

12:07 schestowitz[TR]; otherwise they won't listen

12:07 schestowitz[TR]; re patents

12:07 schestowitz[TR]; bring up vaccine patents

12:07 schestowitz[TR]; cost, availability

12:07 schestowitz[TR]; and then they might listen

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12:08 schestowitz[TR]; that also depends on locality of audience

12:08 schestowitz[TR]; if you are georgia and face cyberattacks like ddos

12:08 schestowitz[TR]; then you focus on digital defences

12:11 TR News; "John Deere memo: Farmers have NOT won, but that won't stop the news from pretending they did." https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/john-deere-memo-farmers-have-not-won,:e iophk: note that need the beginning many of the sites have widevine drm warnings

12:11 TR Bot; John Deere memo: Farmers have NOT won, but that won't stop the news from pretending they did.

12:11 TR News; Lets talk about knowing it wont happen again https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/let's-talk-about-knowing-it-won't-happen:f

12:11 TR Bot; Let's talk about knowing it won't happen again

12:12 TR News; First it was Jono Bacon, but even he was pretty mild compared to mjg59_ http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-100123.html#tJan%2010%2001:20:49

12:12 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, January 10, 2023

12:14 XRevan86; What a long read this past day's backlog here. But all I can tell from it is that phanes is a cunt.

12:15 phanes; depends on who it is

12:15 XRevan86; > oh i hate what happened to freenode too. its a damned shame it had to happen.

12:15 phanes; oh that

12:15 phanes; of course it did

12:15 phanes; not everything that is necessary is enjoyable

12:15 XRevan86; phanes: And your extreme obsession with mjg59_

12:16 phanes; i hate all people who survive by lying about others

12:16 schestowitz[TR]; sometimes both sides of a coin are filth

12:16 schestowitz[TR]; i don't even take sides there

12:16 schestowitz[TR]; "head or tails"

12:16 schestowitz[TR]; "fuck off!"

12:17 TR News; "Strings are one of the most common data types you will use in MySQL." https://opensource.com/article/23/1/strings-mysql | Source: OpenSource.com

12:17 TR Bot; guide to strings in MySQL | Opensource.com

12:17 TR News; "By default, Java looks for a main method to run in a class." https://opensource.com/article/23/1/java-methods | Source: OpenSource.com

12:17 TR Bot; to use methods in Java | Opensource.com

12:17 XRevan86; Well thanks to that bulldoser IRC had shrank.

12:18 TR News; "This tutorial will help you writing one of Indonesian traditional scripts, Javanese, also known as Aksara Jawa" https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2023/01/how-to-write-javanese-script-hanacaraka-on-ubuntu-computer.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz

12:18 TR Bot; How To Write Javanese Script Hanacaraka on Ubuntu Computer

12:18 XRevan86; And workload for a lot of people was disrupted for no good reason.

12:18 TR News; "The call for papers for openSUSE Conference 2023 is open! [...] The call for papers will close on April" https://news.opensuse.org/2023/01/10/osc-cfp-opens/ | Source: OpenSUSE

12:18 TR Bot; openSUSE Conference Call for Papers is Open - openSUSE News

12:18 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: yes, very true

12:18 schestowitz[TR]; across thousands of projects

12:19 schestowitz[TR]; needing to update sites

12:19 schestowitz[TR]; pursue old regulars

12:19 schestowitz[TR]; some never came back

12:19 schestowitz[TR]; it was a nuclear strike at the C&C

12:19 TR News; "The ls command is one of the basic yet essential Linux commands" https://linuxhandbook.com/exa-command/ | Source: Linux Handbook

12:19 TR Bot; How to Use Exa Command on Linux

12:19 schestowitz[TR]; AdmFubar has an hypothesis about it being intentional

12:20 phanes; oh there was a great reason

12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

12:20 TR News; "Linux provides tons of command-line utilities to perform various tasks." https://www.tecmint.com/deprecated-linux-commands/ | Source: TecMint

12:20 TR Bot; 6 Deprecated Linux Commands and Alternative Tools for Linux

12:20 phanes; wouldn't have happened otherwise

12:21 phanes; granted, my reasons for being there were not the new owner's reasons

12:22 schestowitz[TR]; the nuclear attack had struck freenode before we had some major epo series to publish

12:22 schestowitz[TR]; so it slowed us down considerably

12:22 schestowitz[TR]; while this idiot was mass banning people in #fsf "for the lols"

12:23 phanes; it was not for the lols

12:23 schestowitz[TR]; so what was it?

12:23 schestowitz[TR]; your ego?

12:23 phanes; nope

12:24 phanes; I spent 10 years trying to work with the Freenode leadership to resolve the problem of abusers on their network

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; mr. "i love irc" lee ruined freenode

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; and fast

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; like musk does twitter

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; dalnet is NOT coming back

12:24 schestowitz[TR]; freenode was the main hub, at least for free softwarwe

12:24 phanes; musk isn't ruining twitter tho so bad comparison

12:24 TR News; "Emulators have managed to build a bridge between different gaming platforms." https://linuxtechlab.com/how-to-play-nintendo-gamecube-games-on-linux/ | Source: LinuxTechLab

12:24 TR Bot; To Play Nintendo GameCube Games on Linux - LinuxTechLab

12:25 schestowitz[TR]; twitter shrank a lot

12:25 phanes; anyway it's unfortunate that projects' work were disrupted. that was never desired by anyone I think.

12:25 schestowitz[TR]; in just 2 moinths

12:25 XRevan86; "to resolve the problem of abusers on their network" <- The reasoning is sound: no network no abusers.

12:25 phanes; i think you may be retconning what happened there

12:26 phanes; do you not remember the old staff and their circles going into every channel and sewing rumours and innuendo to get projects to follow them so they could retain fundings

12:26 phanes; and targeting the new staff

12:26 phanes; with lies

12:26 schestowitz[TR]; what lies?

12:27 psydruid; it's better that what happened to freenode actually happened

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; you are still under a Lee NDA

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; and so you cannot tell us facts

12:27 phanes; i am still under an NDA

12:27 psydruid; now all of the traitor projects are on oftc and libera

12:27 psydruid; with much fewer people in chat

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; they are not "traitor project"

12:28 schestowitz[TR]; the fsf and gnu are there too

12:28 schestowitz[TR]; just smaller now

12:28 schestowitz[TR]; in irc at least

12:28 phanes; what gullible nitwits like immibis_ didn't track closely enough to realize is that the only actions i took there were the removal of people and projects that either facilitated or had leadership directly participating in decades of abuse of users on the network, and that i was careful to restrict my actions to that

12:29 TR News; "Connect Tech introduced a carrier board compatible with the new Jetson AGX Orin module from NVIDIA" https://linuxgizmos.com/carrier-board-for-jetson-agx-orin-module-features-dual-10gbase-t-ports-and-can-interfaces/ | Source: Linux Gizmos

12:29 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/carrier-board-for-jetson-agx-orin-module-features-dual-10gbase-t-ports-and-can-interfaces/ )

12:29 phanes; maybe you two can jerk each other off while venting your teenage angst, XRevan86

12:29 schestowitz[TR]; you are full of it

12:29 schestowitz[TR]; go play with the dog

12:30 Moocher5254; Hum? On mobile, what's up with mjg59? For me he is just naive

12:30 schestowitz[TR]; he;s finished

12:30 XRevan86; phanes: If I do feel angst it's over the war.

12:30 schestowitz[TR]; they used him

12:30 schestowitz[TR]; he was a willing actor

12:30 schestowitz[TR]; and he's done

12:30 phanes; Moocher5254, https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/

12:30 TR Bot; Index of /database/Garrett, Matthew

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; like miguel e icaz, he will walk into obscurity

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; with a laughable fsf award

12:31 psydruid; all of them are traitor projects

12:31 schestowitz[TR]; a mole trophy

12:31 psydruid; with big cocs and stuff

12:32 schestowitz[TR]; the cocs are falsely marketed

12:32 schestowitz[TR]; they are, in practioce, about control

12:32 schestowitz[TR]; by censorship

12:32 phanes; im nothing like miguel de icaza

12:32 schestowitz[TR]; and removal of people

12:32 schestowitz[TR]; the cocs do not handle with corporate abuse at all!

12:32 schestowitz[TR]; not by mistake

12:32 schestowitz[TR]; phanes: not you

12:32 phanes; oh

12:32 schestowitz[TR]; the three stooges

12:32 schestowitz[TR]; the microsofters

12:32 schestowitz[TR]; mono, systemd, 'secure' boot

12:33 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/07/08/secured-windows-monopoly/

12:33 TR Bot; The Three Microsoft Stooges | Techrights

12:33 schestowitz[TR]; moe money, larry, and curly

12:33 schestowitz[TR]; they profited from attacking us all

12:33 XRevan86; phanes: Regarding retconning, look carefully at rasengan and tell me the outcome wasn't inevitable.

12:33 schestowitz[TR]; and no guilt

12:34 schestowitz[TR]; profiting from being malicious is FAR easier than profiting rfom honesty

12:34 schestowitz[TR]; but it's not inevitable

12:34 Moocher5254; Regarding mjg technical stances, I've nothing to accuse him of

12:34 schestowitz[TR]; happens more in societies that allow bad people to advance upwards

12:35 Moocher5254; Secure Boot has a purpose

12:35 schestowitz[TR]; and reward the people below *upwards)

12:35 phanes; XRevan86, inevitable with the dynamics on the group yes, but, if I'd have been able to prune the team and bring some new folks on they'd still have about 75k users

12:35 Moocher5254; You can't trust Microsoft of the whole process, but it has a purpose

12:35 schestowitz[TR]; Moocher5254: it does have a purpose

12:35 schestowitz[TR]; to lock out windows counterparts

12:35 Moocher5254; Also, but not only

12:36 schestowitz[TR]; what else?

12:36 TR News; "It seems people haven't learned from the debacle with the dbrand Project Killswitch case using magnetsthat causes problems with certain Steam Deck fan speeds." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/01/stop-mixing-magnets-with-the-steam-deck-or-face-fan-and-temperature-troubles/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

12:36 TR Bot; mixing magnets with the Steam Deck or face fan and temperature troubles | GamingOnLinux

12:36 phanes; hell i could restore freenode to what it was in about a year

12:36 Moocher5254; A few years ago I learned of a husband who gave her cheating wife a phone with modified firmware

12:37 schestowitz[TR]; I confronted intelk's execs over uefi

12:37 schestowitz[TR]; and they had no compelling arguments

12:37 Moocher5254; It's getting easier by the year for such kind of things to happen

12:37 schestowitz[TR]; we spoke on the phone, conference call

12:37 schestowitz[TR]; uefi is trash

12:37 schestowitz[TR]; heap of garbage

12:37 schestowitz[TR]; I don't need fancy bootloader

12:37 schestowitz[TR]; the OS has what I need

12:37 Moocher5254; You are not the average user

12:37 schestowitz[TR]; all that complexity means more security issues, too

12:37 schestowitz[TR]; the average user does NOT need UEFI

12:38 schestowitz[TR]; even less so than me

12:38 Moocher5254; My BIOS (UEFI) is on text-mode, so no fancy for me :pp

12:38 schestowitz[TR]; the average user needs to move away from Windows

12:38 schestowitz[TR]; it's a malware magnet

12:38 schestowitz[TR]; Moocher5254: that's the surface

12:38 schestowitz[TR]; the skin

12:38 geert; we shouldnt try fool the 'average user'

12:38 schestowitz[TR]; underneath it is bloated shit

12:38 Moocher5254; Anyway, Windows is 'fine'

12:38 psydruid; Intel execs will try to get away with anything they can get away with

12:38 schestowitz[TR]; CMD.EXE is also rudimentary

12:38 schestowitz[TR]; but it goes on top of Windows kludge

12:39 Moocher5254; You want to ensure by law competition can happen

12:39 psydruid; Windows is not "fine"

12:39 schestowitz[TR]; it should be fined

12:39 psydruid; indeed

12:39 psydruid; its masters in particular

12:39 schestowitz[TR]; meanwhile gulagtroll tweets this year that..

12:39 schestowitz[TR]; bill gates was disliked because

12:39 schestowitz[TR]; windows sucked

12:39 schestowitz[TR]; and because he is rich

12:39 schestowitz[TR]; relaying the lies

12:39 psydruid; no one should be a slave to the masters of Windows

12:39 schestowitz[TR]; gates committed crimes

12:40 schestowitz[TR]; and it's not like people are "jealous" of the criminal

12:40 Moocher5254; /away

12:40 psydruid; gulagtroll is a clown

12:40 psydruid; goodbye

12:40 schestowitz[TR]; OJ Simpson: people are just racist, they don't like me cause I'm black, hence I did not kill my ex wife

12:41 TR News; "This is awesome and something more developers should do with games they shut down." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/01/counterplay-games-makes-tactical-card-battler-duelyst-completely-open-source/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

12:41 TR Bot; Games makes tactical card battler Duelyst completely open source | GamingOnLinux

12:41 schestowitz[TR]; judge: i'm not racist, hence acquitted

12:41 phanes; windows still sucks

12:41 TR News; "Game store Fanatical have put up another Steam Deck Verified game bundle and there's some great looking gems inside." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/01/fanatical-are-doing-another-nice-steam-deck-verified-game-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

12:41 TR Bot; are doing another nice Steam Deck Verified game bundle | GamingOnLinux

12:41 psydruid; windows has always sucks and will always suck

12:41 psydruid; that's the only thing it's good at

12:41 schestowitz[TR]; the british empire used similar tactics

12:41 phanes; what, sucking?

12:41 psydruid; yes

12:41 psydruid; sucked*

12:41 schestowitz[TR]; to demonise opponents of colonialism

12:42 immibis_; [12:58] <558b2ftechrights-news> Corporate media typically ridicules people who do not obey or live by the implicit rules of corporations or rulers of the media and it isn't just the media. The system is woven into everything.

12:42 schestowitz[TR]; Windows is worse than sucking

12:42 schestowitz[TR]; in many contexts it should be banned. Examples:

12:42 schestowitz[TR]; a) medical equipment

12:42 psydruid; it's life-threatening

12:42 schestowitz[TR]; b) machines with medical data

12:42 schestowitz[TR]; c) military (def. nukes)

12:42 phanes; ive always thought that too

12:42 schestowitz[TR]; it should be strongly discouraged in other contexts, ,but

12:42 phanes; its silly to have windows in any critical environment like that

12:43 schestowitz[TR]; it is suitable gfor honeypot testiing

12:43 schestowitz[TR]; and pentesting in general

12:43 schestowitz[TR]; windows is a good target for practice

12:43 phanes; "can't finish this open heart surgery, the windows kiosk is rebooting"

12:43 immibis_; Your thinking is far too low-level. A hospital procures contracts for a data processing system. Lowest valid bid wins. End of story.

12:43 schestowitz[TR]; phanes: happens!

12:43 phanes; immibis_, please, tell me more about how hospitals do system selection lol

12:43 schestowitz[TR]; today in the video I gave a real example

12:43 schestowitz[TR]; client that does medical stuff

12:44 schestowitz[TR]; my sql server crapped out

12:44 schestowitz[TR]; 30 servers with gnu/linux

12:44 schestowitz[TR]; one windows

12:44 schestowitz[TR]; fore some old front end for users of an old system

12:44 schestowitz[TR]; server shut itself down

12:44 schestowitz[TR]; due to Windows licence

12:44 schestowitz[TR]; server reboots

12:44 schestowitz[TR]; weeks' worth of work down the drain

12:44 schestowitz[TR]; postgres, elastic

12:44 schestowitz[TR]; must restart

12:44 schestowitz[TR]; because microsoft decided windoows must not run

12:45 schestowitz[TR]; of course the system was never supposed to depend on that stupid Windows VM

12:45 schestowitz[TR]; that happened in 2020

12:45 schestowitz[TR]; duraing pandemic

12:45 schestowitz[TR]; they were researching mitigation starategy for COVID-19, too

12:46 schestowitz[TR]; that's just one example I gave today

12:46 schestowitz[TR]; in the video only

12:46 schestowitz[TR]; as it can give away client name

12:46 psydruid; "a study on the survival of the fittest IT systems in a hospital environment"

12:46 schestowitz[TR]; thsi year: http://techrights.org/2022/12/28/andy-farnell-on-british-universities/

12:46 TR Bot; GAFAM Against Higher Education: University Centralised IT Has Failed. What Now? | Techrights

12:46 schestowitz[TR]; "A graduate of mine started work on an NHS support team for IT and security. I made a joke about Windows running an update during a life or death moment in the emergency ward. He looked at me with deadly seriousness, to say you think that doesnt happen?"

12:46 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/12/29/toxic-tech-unis/

12:47 psydruid; wrong system -> "you're dead, mate"

12:47 TR Bot; GAFAM Against Higher Education: Toxic Tech | Techrights

12:47 psydruid; "better luck next time!"

12:47 schestowitz[TR]; if any

12:47 schestowitz[TR]; "well, he's dead"

12:47 phanes; it does happen

12:48 phanes; i was the infosec arch for the world's largest hospital chain

12:48 phanes; they had some sharp guys maintaining most areas but the product selection is not what i would have gone with

12:49 phanes; there's more i'd like to say but that NDA is also still in effect

12:49 psydruid; I've got a windows 10 VM here, that's much better than running it native

12:49 psydruid; because it's unstable on real hardware due to ever-existing driver issues

12:50 psydruid; if it updates just leave it running in the background while the real operating system continues working

12:50 psydruid; but honestly, automatic updates on critical infrastructure is a joke

12:51 psydruid; you have to be (morally) corrupt to consider that acceptable

12:52 TR News; (NEW): 7 interesting metrics about open source in sustainability http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/7_interesting_metrics_about_open_source_in_sustainability.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/7_interesting_metrics_about_open_source_in_sustainability.gmi

12:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines 7 interesting metrics about open source in sustainability

12:52 phanes; it's not

12:53 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft: is we don't geta bailout, people will die

12:53 schestowitz[TR]; reality: people die BECAUSE of Microsoft

12:53 TR News; (NEW): 7 interesting metrics about open source in sustainability http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/7_interesting_metrics_about_open_source_in_sustainability.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/7_interesting_metrics_about_open_source_in_sustainability.gmi

12:54 TR News; (NEW): Games: Duelyst, Steam Deck, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Games_Duelyst_Steam_Deck_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Games_Duelyst_Steam_Deck_and_More.gmi

12:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Duelyst, Steam Deck, and More

12:54 TR News; (NEW): Why developers choose open source in the hybrid cloud http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Why_developers_choose_open_source_in_the_hybrid_cloud.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Why_developers_choose_open_source_in_the_hybrid_cloud.gmi

12:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Why developers choose open source in the hybrid cloud

12:58 TR News; "A man who impersonated publishers and literary agents to fraudulently obtain digital copies of more than a thousand pre-release novels and other books has entered a guilty plea in the United States." https://torrentfreak.com/pre-release-book-scam-former-simon-schuster-employee-pleads-guilty-230111/ | Source: Torrent Freak

12:58 TR Bot; Book Scam: Former Simon & Schuster Employee Pleads Guilty * TorrentFreak

12:59 TR News; "Repatriation can be a sensitive topic." More sensitive than Pro Publica bagging bribes from Jeffrey Epstein's enabler, Bill Gates? https://www.propublica.org/article/behind-propublica-reporting-on-repatriation

12:59 TR Bot; Why ProPublica Investigated Repatriation ProPublica

12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

12:59 TR News; (NEW): Linux is All Set to Disable Microsoft's RNDIS Drivers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Linux_is_All_Set_to_Disable_Microsoft_s_RNDIS_Drivers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Linux_is_All_Set_to_Disable_Microsoft_s_RNDIS_Drivers.gmi

12:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux is All Set to Disable Microsoft's RNDIS Drivers

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13:00 TR News; repatriation database https://projects.propublica.org/repatriation-nagpra-database/ |

13:00 TR Bot; Does Your Local Museum or University Still Have Native American Remains? NAGPRA Database ProPublica

13:01 TR News; "An open license is an offer to allow people to use your materials" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/01/beware-gifts-dragons-how-dds-open-gaming-license-may-have-become-trap-creators | Source: EFF

13:01 TR Bot; Beware the Gifts of Dragons: How D&Ds Open Gaming License May Have Become a Trap for Creators | Electronic Frontier Foundation

13:04 TR News; unions rock https://truthout.org/articles/gop-votes-to-kill-congressional-workers-union-in-new-rules-package/ | Source: TruthOut

13:04 TR Bot; GOP Votes to Kill Congressional Workers Union in New Rules Package - Truthout

13:05 TR News; biden hidin' https://truthout.org/articles/biden-kept-classified-documents-at-think-tank-office-in-dc/ | Source: TruthOut

13:05 TR Bot; Biden Kept Classified Documents at Think Tank Office in DC - Truthout

13:06 TR News; Patents kill https://truthout.org/articles/moderna-faces-backlash-for-plans-to-markup-covid-vaccine-by-4000-percent/ | Source: TruthOut

13:06 TR Bot; Moderna Faces Backlash for Plans to Markup COVID Vaccine by 4,000 Percent - Truthout

13:07 TR News; ambulances too https://truthout.org/articles/uk-nurses-and-ambulance-workers-are-striking-for-a-fully-funded-nhs/ | Source: TruthOut

13:07 TR Bot; UK Nurses and Ambulance Workers Are Striking for a Fully Funded NHS - Truthout

13:08 TR News; Investigating cause of excess deaths in UK https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/01/11/young-people-risk/

13:08 TR Bot; Blog Archive Massive Increase in Deaths After COVID-19, Even as We Enter 2023 (Many Die Suddenly at Home, Including Young People)

13:09 TR News; What a time to be alive. Quite a time to merely survive.

13:09 TR News; "I no longer read all the way through newspaper stories about the war in Ukraine" https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/01/11/why-this-country-might-want-to-lower-its-expectations/ | Source: Counter Punch

13:09 TR Bot; This Country Might Want to Lower Its Expectations - CounterPunch.org

13:10 TR News; Insurrection https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/01/11/a-legal-insurrection/ | Source: Counter Punch

13:10 TR Bot; Legal Insurrection - CounterPunch.org

13:11 TR News; "Im joining the boycott." https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/01/11/do-meghan-and-harry-really-believe-they-control-the-narrative/ | Source: Counter Punch

13:11 TR Bot; Meghan and Harry Really Believe They Control the Narrative? - CounterPunch.org

13:16 TR News; New Yorker/Conde Nast shaming people into GETTING ILL https://fair.org/home/new-yorker-takes-aim-at-people-who-still-think-covid-is-a-problem/ | Source: FAIR

13:16 TR Bot; New Yorker Takes Aim at People Who Still Think Covid Is a Problem - FAIR

13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

13:21 TR News; Sanders https://www.commondreams.org/news/bernie-sanders-moderna | Source: Common Dreams

13:21 TR Bot; Sanders Wants Answers Over 'Unconscionable' Moderna Vaccine Price Gouging

13:22 TR News; Pentagon runs a nation, with private companies like Microsoft as contractors https://www.commondreams.org/news/gop-pentagon-social-security-medicare | Source: Common Dreams http://techrights.org/2022/12/09/taxpayers-subsidise-gafam/

13:22 TR Bot; House GOP Says Pentagon Budget Is SafeBut Social Security and Medicare Aren't

13:22 TR Bot; Microsoft Has Just Been Given Yet Another Bailout From the US Taxpayers (Second Large Microsoft Bailout From the Biden Administration) | Techrights

13:25 TR News; Microsoft = back doored by DESIGN! https://krebsonsecurity.com/2023/01/microsoft-patch-tuesday-january-2023-edition/ | Source: Krebs On Security http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_and_the_NSA

13:25 TR Bot; Microsoft Patch Tuesday, January 2023 Edition Krebs on Security

13:25 TR Bot; Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights

13:28 psydruid; https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/norway

13:28 TR Bot; Desktop Operating System Market Share Norway | Statcounter Global Stats

13:28 schestowitz[TR]; yeah

13:28 TR News; arduino needs to plug into GNU/Linux, not malwareOS https://hackaday.com/2023/01/10/arduino-powered-info-display-for-your-windows-computer/ | Source: Hackaday

13:28 TR Bot; Info Display For Your Windows Computer | Hackaday

13:29 psydruid; Windows in terminal decline

13:29 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/06/02/gnu-linux-norway/

13:29 TR Bot; GNU/Linux at Over 10% in Norway (Over 11% in April), Not Even Counting Chromebooks | Techrights

13:30 psydruid; it looks like in summer Windows only picks up because of holidays and kids playing games or something

13:30 schestowitz[TR]; I think Microsoft games this site

13:30 schestowitz[TR]; to fake vista 11 adoption

13:30 schestowitz[TR]; I have my reasons to suspect that

13:30 schestowitz[TR]; or maybe they made some partnership []sic]

13:30 schestowitz[TR]; check mexico

13:30 schestowitz[TR]; see what they did

13:30 psydruid; that could very well be the case

13:31 schestowitz[TR]; they did that with other stat sites before

13:31 schestowitz[TR]; Net Applications

13:31 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/GNU/Linux_Market_Share#Net_Applications

13:31 TR Bot; GNU/Linux Market Share - Techrights

13:31 TR News; "When [Zach Hipps] was faced with a locked safe and no combination" https://hackaday.com/2023/01/10/adventures-in-robotic-safe-cracking/ | Source: Hackaday

13:31 psydruid; in Mexico they may have bribed some people

13:31 psydruid; like bnchs said about what they did in Morocco

13:31 TR Bot; In Robotic Safe Cracking | Hackaday

13:32 schestowitz[TR]; bribe-o-soft

13:32 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/01/02/sirius-open-source-inc/

13:32 TR Bot; Sirius Open Source Inc. A New Shell Created When Bill Gates Paid the CEO; Then the Company Immediately Turned Ugly and Hostile Towards Its Own Workers | Techrights

13:34 TR News; Land of the Fee https://scheerpost.com/2023/01/10/land-of-the-fee-home-of-the-depraved/ | Source: Scheerpost

13:34 TR Bot; of the Fee, Home of the Depraved - scheerpost.com

13:34 TR News; fidesz https://telex.hu/english/2023/01/11/former-fidesz-legal-advisers-company-wins-media-monitoring-tender-of-hungarian-government | Source: Telex (Hungary)

13:34 TR Bot; Telex: Former Fidesz legal adviser's company wins media monitoring tender of Hungarian government

13:34 schestowitz[TR]; "media monitoring"

13:34 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: wth is that?

13:35 TR News; While Pro Publica is on this topic maybe it wants to do a piece about how Bill Gates is de facto immune after crimes... but Pro Publica takes bribes from Gates https://www.propublica.org/article/honorary-consuls-documents-shadow-diplomats

13:35 TR Bot; These Documents Reveal Abuses and Breakdowns in Rogue System of Global Diplomacy ProPublica

13:35 TR News; ImHex https://hackaday.com/2023/01/10/imhex-an-open-hex-editor-for-the-modern-hacker/ | Source: Hackaday

13:35 TR Bot; An Open Hex Editor For The Modern Hacker | Hackaday

13:37 TR News; KSA = terrorism with a state and lobbyists. and wikipedia is undermined at the core; wikipedia is useless these days, for most political topics at least. https://www.techdirt.com/2023/01/10/saudi-government-narrative-control-efforts-now-include-the-jailing-of-wikipedia-administrators/ | Source: Techdirt

13:37 TR Bot; Government Narrative Control Efforts Now Include The Jailing Of Wikipedia Administrators | Techdirt

13:38 TR News; Virgin = oligarchs playing with rockets (Dick Branson), built with money they stole from the public https://hackaday.com/2023/01/10/virgin-not-quite-orbit-yet/ | Source: Hackaday

13:38 TR Bot; Not-Quite-Orbit-Yet | Hackaday

13:38 TR News; Supercon https://hackaday.com/2023/01/10/supercon-2022-samy-kamkars-glowing-breath/ | Source: Hackaday

13:38 TR Bot; 2022: Samy Kamkars Glowing Breath | Hackaday

13:38 TR News; trademarks https://www.techdirt.com/2023/01/10/random-musk-fan-tries-to-get-trademarks-on-teslas-behalf-which-is-not-how-this-works/ | Source: Techdirt

13:38 TR Bot; Musk Fan Tries To Get Trademarks On Teslas Behalf, Which Is Not How This Works | Techdirt

13:39 TR News; "Because I Got High" https://www.techdirt.com/2023/01/10/afroman-turns-security-footage-of-bullshit-raid-of-his-home-into-viral-rap-video-hit/ | Source: Techdirt

13:39 TR Bot; Turns Security Footage Of Bullshit Raid Of His Home Into Viral Rap Video Hit | Techdirt

13:40 TR News; "open [sic]nature of the [I]nternet." https://www.techdirt.com/2023/01/10/techdirt-podcast-episode-341-in-defense-of-the-global-open-internet/ | Source: Techdirt

13:40 TR Bot; Podcast Episode 341: In Defense Of The Global, Open Internet | Techdirt

13:40 TR News; "The Toniebox is a toy that plays stories and songs for kids to listen to." https://hackaday.com/2023/01/10/cutting-cables-cures-tangled-cord-chaos/ | Source: Hackaday

13:40 TR Bot; CABLES CURES TANGLED CORD CHAOS | Hackaday

13:42 MinceR; schestowitz[TR]: monitoring what's published in the media, presumably what the remnants of the free press say about the party state and which of it to try and kill next

13:42 MinceR; paid for with taxpayers' money, paid to some other fideath comrades

13:45 MinceR; also, the EU forced them to have another company compete for the job, but of course they didn't win, they were only a decoration

13:45 MinceR; there's no market economy in hungary

13:47 TR News; Twitter https://www.techdirt.com/2023/01/10/as-elon-fires-more-trust-safety-staff-twitters-moderation-efforts-fall-apart/ | Source: Techdirt

13:47 TR Bot; Elon Fires More Trust & Safety Staff, Twitters Moderation Efforts Fall Apart | Techdirt

13:47 TR News; Twitter?? https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/01/10/we-demand-an-end-to-tormenting-alexey-navalny | Source: Meduza

13:47 TR Bot; Stop tormenting Alexey Navalny! In an open letter to President Putin, Russian doctors demand medical help for the imprisoned opposition politician Meduza

13:48 TR News; "Shot-spotting tech is notoriously unreliable." https://www.techdirt.com/2023/01/10/dhs-adds-to-the-world-of-shot-spotting-tech-claims-system-is-so-foolproof-it-can-be-run-by-one-person/ | Source: Techdirt

13:48 TR Bot; Adds To The World Of Shot-Spotting Tech, Claims System Is So Foolproof It Can Be Run By One Person | Techdirt

13:48 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: makes sense

13:49 schestowitz[TR]; media monitor

13:49 schestowitz[TR]; media IS the monitor

13:49 schestowitz[TR]; it monitors what happens

13:49 schestowitz[TR]; to monitor the media is absurd

13:49 psydruid; confide in fideath

13:49 schestowitz[TR]; they need to monitor politicians

13:49 schestowitz[TR]; like ombuds

13:58 TR News; "CCertificate compression improves performance of Transport Layer Security handshake without some of the risks exploited in protocol-level compression." https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/gnutls-certificate-compression

13:58 TR Bot; Introduction to certificate compression in GnuTLS | Enable Sysadmin

13:59 TR News; This site posts NOTHING BUT IBM SPAM THESE DAYS. https://www.itjungle.com/2023/01/11/ibm-i-ptf-guide-volume-25-number-1/ ICBM/IBM pays for it! http://techrights.org/2022/10/24/ibm-it-jungle/

13:59 TR Bot; IBM i PTF Guide, Volume 25, Number 1 - IT Jungle

13:59 TR Bot; IT Jungle Still Failing to Properly Disclose That IBM Pays It to Promote IBM in About 90% of Articles (PR Vehicle in Media Clothing) | Techrights

2 PM, January 11

14:02 TR News; Jenny Thomas also. 100% IBM, no disclosure that this is PAID-for SPAM. https://www.itjungle.com/2023/01/11/four-hundred-monitor-january-11/ see http://techrights.org/2022/10/24/ibm-it-jungle/

14:02 TR Bot; Four Hundred Monitor, January 11 - IT Jungle

14:03 TR News; 100% IBM today: https://www.itjungle.com/2023/01/11/loopback-hackathon-set-for-next-week/ https://www.itjungle.com/2023/01/11/lessons-from-southwests-it-debacle/ https://www.itjungle.com/2023/01/11/is-julia-coming-to-ibm-i-next/ WWW = paid-for spam disguised as journalism: http://techrights.org/2022/10/24/ibm-it-jungle/

14:03 TR Bot; Loopback Hackathon Set for Next Week - IT Jungle

14:03 TR Bot; Lessons from Southwest's IT Debacle - IT Jungle

14:03 TR Bot; Is Julia Coming to IBM i Next? - IT Jungle

14:04 TR News; TikTok Lobbying in Brssel https://oe1.orf.at/player/20230111/705626/1673417372000

14:04 TR Bot; ORF-Radiothek

14:07 TR News; Microsoft breaks Microsoft https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-fixes-odbc-connections-broken-by-november-updates/ Source: Bleeping Computer

14:07 TR Bot; Microsoft fixes ODBC connections broken by November updates

14:08 TR News; bleepingcomputer

14:09 TR News; Positive spin or lipstick on Microsoft destroying people's PCs (bleepingcomputer is a Microsoft-connected site) https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-fixes-issue-causing-0xc000021a-blue-screen-crashes/

14:09 TR Bot; Microsoft fixes issue causing 0xc000021a blue screen crashes

14:10 TR News; Lots of unpatched and actively-exploited Windows flaws remain, according to CISA's latest https://www.techtarget.com/searchwindowsserver/news/252529068/Microsoft-resolves-Windows-zero-day-on-January-Patch-Tuesday

14:10 TR Bot; resolves Windows zero-day on January Patch Tuesday | TechTarget

14:12 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights

14:13 TR News; Thom Holwerda's False dichotomy: "Run an unspported operating system, or invite more ads and spyware. Tough call." Move to another OS, such as BSD and GNU/Linux. https://www.osnews.com/story/135736/windows-7-and-windows-8-1-reach-the-end-of-the-line/

14:13 TR Bot; 7 and Windows 8.1 reach the end of the line OSnews

14:14 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Security_Leftovers.gmi

14:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers

14:14 TR News; Balloons Puff and Twist into an Elaborate Inflatable Ensemble by Masayoshi Matsumoto https://www.thisiscolossal.com/2022/11/masayoshi-matsumoto-balloon-animals/

14:15 TR Bot; Balloons Puff and Twist into an Elaborate Inflatable Ensemble by Masayoshi Matsumoto Colossal

14:18 TR News; 27 Open Source Slideshow Presentation Editors and PowerPoint Alternatives https://medevel.com/os-presentation-software/ Source: Medevel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//medevel.com/os-presentation-software/

14:18 TR Bot; 27 Open Source Slideshow Presentation Editors and PowerPoint Alternatives

14:19 TR News; "The father of one of my partners is in his final days of cancer, and could pass any day." gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/flexibeast/gemlog/2023-01-11.gmi

14:19 TR News; SpellBinding: IMOYSUP Wordo: APPAL gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-01-11.gmi

14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

14:21 TR News; Overpriced, waste of energy (!), and has back doors (PSP). This won't sell well. https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/01/11/kontron-d3724-r-mstx-a-mini-stx-motherboard-based-on-ryzen-embedded-r2000-cpu/

14:21 TR Bot; Kontron D3724-R mSTX - A Mini-STX motherboard based on Ryzen Embedded R2000 CPU - CNX Software

14:23 TR News; 65W-100W for a 'small' Ryzen board. LOL!!! Good luck with that.

14:25 TR News; Tom Deseyn continues to work for Microsoft on a Red Hat salary. Insane self-harming behaviour. https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2023/01/11/5-new-advanced-features-improving-c-11 compare to 'secure' boot http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI

14:25 TR Bot; 5 new advanced features improving C# 11 | Red Hat Developer

14:25 TR Bot; UEFI - Techrights

14:26 TR News; Red Hat has its own Greg K-Hs. Like when he worked for Microsoft on a Novell salary. A salary sourced from REDMOND.

14:26 TR News; Khronos Group Welcomes Shanghai YVR Technology as Contributor Member https://yvr.cn/

14:26 TR Bot; VR-VR-YVR-

14:27 TR News; the tranquility of societal unattractiveness gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1245

14:41 TR News; (NEW): Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi

14:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers

14:41 TR News; (NEW): Hardware: 8086, Jetson AGX Orin Module, USB-C Mess http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Hardware_8086_Jetson_AGX_Orin_Module_USB_C_Mess.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Hardware_8086_Jetson_AGX_Orin_Module_USB_C_Mess.gmi

14:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines Hardware: 8086, Jetson AGX Orin Module, USB-C Mess

14:41 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi

14:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers

14:41 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi

14:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers

14:43 TR News; Links 11/01/2023: Microsoft is Bricking Windows Again | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/01/11/bricking-windows-again/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/11/bricking-windows-again/

14:43 TR Bot; Links 11/01/2023: Microsoft is Bricking Windows Again | Techrights

3 PM, January 11

15:00 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

15:03 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights

15:04 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: vv

15:04 TR News; Meanwhile in Norway GNU/Linux and Chrome OS Exceed 15% Market Share | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/01/11/norway-2022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/11/norway-2022/

15:04 TR Bot; Meanwhile in Norway GNU/Linux and Chrome OS Exceed 15% Market Share | Techrights

15:13 psydruid; Microsoft would do best by resolving itself

15:13 TR News; "The Chrome team is delighted to announce the promotion of Chrome 109 to the stable channel for Windows, Mac and Linux. This will roll out over the coming days/weeks." https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2023/01/stable-channel-update-for-desktop.html

15:13 TR Bot; Chrome Releases: Stable Channel Update for Desktop

15:13 psydruid; the good thing about Vista 7 and 8.1 going end-of-life is that only 10 and 11 are left

15:13 psydruid; and those are absolute bogusware

15:14 TR News; "The Extended Stable channel has been updated to 108.0.5359.179 for Windows and Mac which will roll out over the coming days/weeks." https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2023/01/extended-stable-channel-update-for.html

15:14 TR Bot; Chrome Releases: Extended Stable Channel Update for Desktop

15:14 schestowitz[TR]; bog-ware in ireland

15:15 psydruid; "My computer was born in the gulag, I stabbed people's computers in the gulag and then my own. And then my computer died in the gulag."

15:18 TR News; WWW 1990s: CERN science project. WWW 2000s: Microsoft playground. WWW 2023: Google Chrome input language.

15:19 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: everyone will be stabbed. if not, you are missinf OUT!

15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

15:20 schestowitz[TR]; (Context of joke: http://techrights.org/2023/01/10/microsoft-backstabbing/ 0

15:20 psydruid; especially at conferences

15:20 TR Bot; Microsofters Stabbing People in Debian | Techrights

15:21 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft wanted secure boot poison pill inside Linux

15:21 schestowitz[TR]; Red Hat agreed to have a STAB at it

15:21 schestowitz[TR]; assigned that job to a crybaby who can call Torvalds sexist and stuff for saying "No! GTFO"

15:21 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/sexism-misrepresentation/

15:21 TR Bot; They Tell Us Linus Torvalds is Sexist But Evidence Suggests Otherwise | Techrights

15:23 TR News; PostgreSQL: Softbuilder Announces Launch of SB Data Generator 2.2 https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/softbuilder-announces-launch-of-sb-data-generator-22-2568/ Source: PostgreSQL | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.postgresql.org/about/news/softbuilder-announces-launch-of-sb-data-generator-22-2568/

15:23 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: Softbuilder Announces Launch of SB Data Generator 2.2

15:23 psydruid; I know Microsoft wanted that

15:24 psydruid; that is why I asked for Loongson hardware in 2007

15:24 psydruid; it was a wonderful experience for early hardware with everything as free software

15:24 schestowitz[TR]; stop hatin' on Microsoft! THAT'S SEXIST!

15:24 psydruid; it's a shame that nothing came out of it in the west

15:24 psydruid; or the genie was put back into the bottle

15:25 psydruid; but I'm sure they've built up experience around it in China

15:25 psydruid; not that their government consists of saints

15:25 schestowitz[TR]; stop being homophobic, said the transphobe

15:25 *geert has quit (Quit: Lost terminal)

15:25 psydruid; but what is happening with western technology is banal

15:25 schestowitz[TR]; stop being transphobic, said the transphobe

15:26 schestowitz[TR]; LINUS GO SEE THERAPIST!! Said the suicidal sninny, bald nutcase

15:26 schestowitz[TR]; (who himself went to therapists)

15:26 schestowitz[TR]; (to avoid him hurting himself)

15:26 psydruid; I'd rather go and live in an ashram than be beholden to gulag trolls

15:26 psydruid; I wonder how he can even sleep at night considering all the evil he has done to the world

15:26 schestowitz[TR]; rianne is increasingly threatened he swatted her

15:27 schestowitz[TR]; *certain he threatens then then swatted her

15:27 psydruid; and most importantly to people here

15:27 schestowitz[TR]; he knows what he did last summer

15:27 psydruid; some day I will expose him in the nastiest way possible

15:27 psydruid; and he will hope that he ended up in an actual gulag

15:28 schestowitz[TR]; he hangs out with mysognists in Twitter

15:28 schestowitz[TR]; looking to rile them up

15:28 schestowitz[TR]; and then he took on women

15:28 schestowitz[TR]; trying to render them unemployed

15:28 schestowitz[TR]; or poor

15:28 schestowitz[TR]; for that I can never forgive him

15:28 psydruid; what saves him is that no one stoops to his level of defamation

15:28 schestowitz[TR]; *misogynists

15:28 psydruid; but that shouldn't be done any longer

15:28 schestowitz[TR]; it'a not illegal

15:28 psydruid; he should be exposed for being the total scumbag he is

15:28 schestowitz[TR]; just hugely immoral

15:29 schestowitz[TR]; he made an image of predator Torvalds

15:29 schestowitz[TR]; Torvalds is a nice man

15:29 schestowitz[TR]; in relative terms

15:29 schestowitz[TR]; he and crazy Shape did a campaign of hate

15:29 schestowitz[TR]; against a very high-profile person

15:29 schestowitz[TR]; Torvalds

15:29 schestowitz[TR]; then RMS also

15:29 schestowitz[TR]; to elevate themselves

15:29 psydruid; Torvalds may not care about the freedom aspect of software as much as RMS does

15:29 schestowitz[TR]; Sharp ended up in SFC

15:29 schestowitz[TR]; with other RMS basher

15:29 schestowitz[TR]; *bashers

15:29 psydruid; but he hasn't done outright evil things nor defamed people

15:29 schestowitz[TR]; 2015 http://techrights.org/2015/10/07/forking-with-hypocrisy/

15:29 TR Bot; Hypocrite Forks the Linux Kernel Because of Cultural Characteristics That He Himself is Guilty of | Techrights

15:29 schestowitz[TR]; he "forked" Linux

15:29 schestowitz[TR]; IN GITHUB!!!!

15:30 psydruid; basically every kernel developer has forked the kernel

15:30 schestowitz[TR]; bad peopel demonise good people

15:30 psydruid; that's called their local kernel tree

15:30 schestowitz[TR]; good people focus on taking down evil people

15:30 psydruid; so it's hilarious

15:30 schestowitz[TR]; hint:

15:31 schestowitz[TR]; the first group is paid well

15:31 schestowitz[TR]; the latter group is unpaid volunteers

15:31 schestowitz[TR]; more so in societies ruled by evil people and companies

15:31 psydruid; that's why I'm saying evil people have to be taken down

15:31 psydruid; voluntarily or by force

15:31 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: maybe brancvhed not forked

15:31 schestowitz[TR]; local branch

15:32 schestowitz[TR]; thos sob tried to paint me as rape apologist

15:32 schestowitz[TR]; though from his own public record it seems like the sexual perv is him

15:32 psydruid; the longer good people let them do their evil deeds, the harder it becomes to get societies back to a normal state of being

15:32 schestowitz[TR]; hunting "pusies" or whatever it is he's into

15:32 schestowitz[TR]; sdon't want to think of that much

15:32 psydruid; I don't want to think of that at all

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; it's a trick

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; you cannot talk back

15:33 psydruid; it's just that he has mutilated technology in the worst way possible

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; as he would twist that as intolerant

15:33 psydruid; and he should be punished for that

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; to call out a perv

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; it's intoleranyt

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; because he's into weird kinks

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; and hence spy agencies have long recruited pervs

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; they ruin anything they enter

15:33 psydruid; I hope one of those kinks will become his undoing

15:33 psydruid; lol

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; maybe debian will find it out too late

15:33 schestowitz[TR]; when decent people step down

15:34 schestowitz[TR]; out of disgust

15:34 psydruid; sorry, I got a disgusting image in my mind when you wrote enter

15:34 schestowitz[TR]; the kinks become a liability only when the "handlers" need a change

15:34 schestowitz[TR]; like recording studios do witrh celebs

15:34 schestowitz[TR]; britney condemned ukraine? that's it, you are done

15:34 schestowitz[TR]; macy gray defends woman identity? goodbye

15:35 schestowitz[TR]; bush 2 and texas

15:35 schestowitz[TR]; can't condemn bush ont he record

15:36 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.npr.org/2022/05/19/1100016029/george-w-bush-condemns-putins-invasion-of-iraq-instead-of-ukraine

15:36 TR Bot; Former President George W. Bush condemns Putin's war in Iraq, instead of Ukraine : NPR

15:36 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/mar/25/usa.arts

15:36 TR Bot; Dixie Chicks turn death threats to song | World news | The Guardian

15:36 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.savingcountrymusic.com/destroying-the-dixie-chicks-ten-years-after/

15:36 TR Bot; Destroying The Dixie Chicks Ten Years After | Saving Country Music

15:36 schestowitz[TR]; https://ew.com/article/2016/08/12/dixie-chicks-trump/

15:36 TR Bot; Trump: Dixie Chicks frontwoman slams country radio over candidate | EW.com

15:37 schestowitz[TR]; in south korea it can be worse

15:37 schestowitz[TR]; in kpop you cannot have political opinion

15:37 schestowitz[TR]; like spy

15:37 schestowitz[TR]; and you cannot even damage the "image"

15:37 schestowitz[TR]; like looking "Strong" instead of "innocent" and "cute"

15:37 schestowitz[TR]; that ruins the "brand"

15:37 schestowitz[TR]; so just smile, kiss to the camera, and dancew

15:37 schestowitz[TR]; nothing else is permitted

15:37 schestowitz[TR]; or the labels will boycott you

15:38 psydruid; I've never been interested in c/j/kpop, as it's just a transplant of american pop into east asia

15:39 schestowitz[TR]; they learn this really fast

15:39 schestowitz[TR]; forced apologies

15:39 schestowitz[TR]; like in iran and china

15:39 psydruid; it's like watching the premier league with all the arab oil money

15:39 schestowitz[TR]; yes, they even recycle the same music

15:40 schestowitz[TR]; but another language

15:40 schestowitz[TR]; "license"

15:40 psydruid; and that's really a shame

15:40 TR News; (NEW): PostgreSQL: Softbuilder Announces Launch of SB Data Generator 2.2 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/PostgreSQL_Softbuilder_Announces_Launch_of_SB_Data_Generator_2_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/PostgreSQL_Softbuilder_Announces_Launch_of_SB_Data_Generator_2_.gmi

15:40 TR Bot; Tux Machines PostgreSQL: Softbuilder Announces Launch of SB Data Generator 2.2

15:40 psydruid; because I would like to hear some chinese, korean and japanese music that is distinct

15:41 schestowitz[TR]; recycling xmas music: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5lPDy55v6xI

15:41 TR Bot; [MV] LEE SU JEONG(),LEE WOO() _ The Miracle of Christmas( ) - Invidious

15:41 psydruid; I listen to music from all over the world with a big interest in central asia, because they stick to what they like and what they're good at

15:41 schestowitz[TR]; the marketing budget goes to pop

15:41 schestowitz[TR]; not local music

15:41 schestowitz[TR]; the authentic local

15:41 schestowitz[TR]; foeign influence

15:41 psydruid; although there is some extent of russification there too

15:41 schestowitz[TR]; same for foods/cuisine

15:42 psydruid; but it's much less than the amerification of european and east asian music

15:42 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: in the north, yes

15:42 psydruid; americanisation*

15:42 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UXxvEPqhVVw

15:42 TR Bot; PyongSublime Frequencies: Radio Pyongyang: Commie Funk And Agit Pop From The Hermit Kingdom - Invidious

15:42 schestowitz[TR]; very sovciet music

15:42 schestowitz[TR]; *soviet

15:44 psydruid; this doesn't really exist in central asia anymore

15:44 psydruid; at least not from what I've heard

15:44 psydruid; north korea may be more soviet than russia itself

15:45 schestowitz[TR]; north korea is schizo

15:45 schestowitz[TR]; like singapore

15:45 schestowitz[TR]; not sure if chinese or malay or indian

15:48 TR News; (NEW): Introducing Coolita 2.0: Veira Group's Linux-based Smart TV Solutions for the Indian Market http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Introducing_Coolita_2_0_Veira_Group_s_Linux_based_Smart_TV_Solu.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Introducing_Coolita_2_0_Veira_Group_s_Linux_based_Smart_TV_Solu.gmi

15:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines Introducing Coolita 2.0: Veira Group's Linux-based Smart TV Solutions for the Indian Market

15:49 schestowitz[TR]; "mom, the tv won't start"

15:49 schestowitz[TR]; "secure" boot

15:49 schestowitz[TR]; "it's ok, son, the tv is protecting us from ourselves"

15:51 TR News; Mainstream media (with sponsors and advertisers like Microsoft) isnt talking about it, but GNU/Linux gains a lot (at the expense of Windows) http://techrights.org/2023/01/11/norway-2022/

15:51 TR Bot; Meanwhile in Norway GNU/Linux and Chrome OS Exceed 15% Market Share | Techrights

15:52 TR News; (NEW): Post Collapse Computing Part 4: The Road Ahead - Space and Meaning http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Post_Collapse_Computing_Part_4_The_Road_Ahead_Space_and_Meaning.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Post_Collapse_Computing_Part_4_The_Road_Ahead_Space_and_Meaning.gmi

15:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines Post Collapse Computing Part 4: The Road Ahead - Space and Meaning

15:55 TR News; Fine-grained authorization for Quarkus microservices | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2023/01/11/fine-grained-authorization-quarkus-microservices

15:55 TR Bot; Fine-grained authorization for Quarkus microservices | Red Hat Developer

15:55 TR News; (NEW): Chrome Releases for Android and Desktops/Laptops http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Chrome_Releases_for_Android_and_Desktops_Laptops.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Chrome_Releases_for_Android_and_Desktops_Laptops.gmi

15:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Chrome Releases for Android and Desktops/Laptops

15:55 TR News; (NEW): Rock 5 Model B, A Powerful New SBC From Radxa - The DIY Life http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Rock_5_Model_B_A_Powerful_New_SBC_From_Radxa_The_DIY_Life.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Rock_5_Model_B_A_Powerful_New_SBC_From_Radxa_The_DIY_Life.gmi

15:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Rock 5 Model B, A Powerful New SBC From Radxa - The DIY Life

15:56 TR News; Establishment talks for official boot-licking duties and job roles https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/1/ted-talks-sharpen-your-communication-skills TED is paid by criminals like Bill Gates for PR http://techrights.org/2020/10/02/bill-gates-rocking-back-and-forth/

15:56 TR Bot; 8 TED Talks to sharpen your communication skills | The Enterprisers Project

15:57 TR Bot; Bill Gates Deposition: When Little Bill Started Rocking Back and Forth, Having Been Presented With Some Smoking Guns | Techrights

15:57 TR News; ICBM Red hat is STILL promoting "the Great Resignation" myth, even when millions are fired, inc. at IBM/Red Hat https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/1/top-6-books-job-hunters-2023

15:57 TR Bot; IT talent: Top 6 books for job hunters in 2023 | The Enterprisers Project

15:57 psydruid; https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/greece

15:57 TR Bot; Desktop Operating System Market Share Greece | Statcounter Global Stats

15:58 schestowitz[TR]; i checked greece in december

15:58 psydruid; GNU/Linux far eclipses Mac in Greece

15:58 psydruid; so that means all of the reasons for not offering applications for GNU/Linux but for Mac instead are bogus

15:59 Moocher5254; Windows 7 now supports Secure Boot btw

15:59 psydruid; it's dead, jim

15:59 Moocher5254; I know

15:59 Moocher5254; but supports Secure Boot

15:59 psydruid; enjoy

15:59 Moocher5254; I don't enjoy anything, just sayin'

15:59 TR News; ICBM: don't say "slaves"; we reserve the right to that word; we take jobs from 30-year veterans and give those jobs to someone in a poor country with 10 times less the salary! And twice as many working hours ("unofficially"). NOT SLAVERY. THAT'S FREE MARKET. EveryoneIsDoingIt(TM).

15:59 psydruid; no one cares

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16:00 psydruid; but thanks for the news

16:02 Moocher5254; "ICBM" ?

16:03 psydruid; gulag is your friend

16:03 psydruid; or your enemy

16:03 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/greece-gnu-linux.png

16:03 Moocher5254; anyway, have you pondered compilers are the "means of production" and the usage of Visual Studio Code is to finetune GithubCodespaces and thus take the means of production from the people?

16:04 psydruid; I haven't as I don't use either

16:04 Moocher5254; I'd prefer paying for JetBrains suite but free is an enticing price

16:04 schestowitz[TR]; github actions = nsa-coinnected compiler

16:04 schestowitz[TR]; compromised projects

16:05 Moocher5254; Not going that far

16:05 Moocher5254; but a fine-looking it is

16:05 Moocher5254; *but a fine-looking lockin it is

16:05 schestowitz[TR]; github needs to be burnedt

16:05 schestowitz[TR]; the sooner, the better

16:05 schestowitz[TR]; there is a lawsuit now

16:05 schestowitz[TR]; github=plagiarism machine

16:06 schestowitz[TR]; blender

16:06 schestowitz[TR]; fsf still too idle

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16:10 TR News; "Python 3.12 is still in development. This release, 3.12.0a4 is the fourth of seven planned alpha releases." https://pythoninsider.blogspot.com/2023/01/python-3120-alpha-4-released.html

16:10 TR Bot; Python Insider: Python 3.12.0 alpha 4 released

16:10 TR News; (NEW): New software sells new hardware but not forever http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/New_software_sells_new_hardware_but_not_forever.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/New_software_sells_new_hardware_but_not_forever.gmi

16:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines New software sells new hardware but not forever

16:13 TR News; Child marriages as cover or means to conceal pedophilia https://www.chronicle.co.zw/cultural-decay-blamed-for-sexual-abuse-of-minors/ maybe tell Jeffrey Epstein and the Gates estate http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/bagel-reports-as-images/

16:13 TR Bot; Cultural decay blamed for sexual abuse of minors | The Chronicle

16:13 TR Bot; Trafficking Thousands of Underage Women/Girls for Sex is Not (and Was Never Ever) No Worse Than Stealing a Bagel | Techrights

16:14 TR News; Taiwan chose the wrong distro, a Microsoft shill https://www.asrockind.com/en-gb/article/140

16:14 TR Bot; NO TITLE

16:14 TR News; "Haiku is an open source OS with a few differences. The big one is that it's not a Unix. The next is that it's pretty close to being a realistic, usable alternative OS for ordinary, everyday use." https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/11/haiku_beta_4/

16:14 TR Bot; Fourth beta of BeOS rebuild Haiku is out The Register

16:16 TR News; Outdated Periodic Table https://xkcd.com/2723/

16:16 TR Bot; Outdated Periodic Table

16:17 TR News; Severity CVSS v3 9.8 https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-298-07

16:17 TR Bot; Delta Electronics InfraSuite Device Master (Update A) | CISA

16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

16:20 TR News; Seems to be Microsoft Windows https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-298-07

16:21 TR News; "There is nothing to disrupt here except the economy and the cult of GDP growth no matter what. Not a technical problem that could be fixed starting from technology." https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/08/what-if-climate-really-becomes-cooler-than-silicon-valley/

16:21 TR Bot; What if climate REALLY becomes cooler than Silicon Valley? | Stop at Zona-M

16:25 TR News; "Qt Contributions" = helping proprietary software as "our Community Members. https://www.qt.io/blog/congratulations-to-our-2022-qt-champions

16:25 TR Bot; Congratulations to our 2022 Qt Champions!

16:29 TR News; How to Watch Hundreds of Free Movies on YouTube https://blog.adafruit.com/2023/01/11/how-to-watch-hundreds-of-free-movies-on-youtube/

16:29 TR Bot; How to Watch Hundreds of Free Movies on YouTube Adafruit Industries Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!

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16:31 TR News; 'Crypto' spam/scam https://usethebitcoin.com/linux-vs-windows-vps-which-one-is-better-for-you/

16:31 TR Bot; Vs Windows VPS - Which One Is Better For You? | UseTheBitcoin

16:32 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi

16:32 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers

16:35 TR News; Working for MS (Mark Shuttleworth and MicroSoft) https://ubuntu.com//blog/automotive-trends-at-ces-las-vegas

16:35 TR Bot; trends at CES Las Vegas | Ubuntu

16:37 TR News; Greenwashing by Microsoft boosters who are pushing and openwashing bloatware https://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/please-participate-in-the-state-of-green-software-survey-2022 see http://techrights.org/2020/09/02/linux-foundation-greenwashing-and-openwashing-for-microsoft/

16:37 TR Bot; Please Participate in the State of Green Software Survey 2022

16:37 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Works for Microsoft | Techrights

16:38 TR News; We wrote to the Tamil Nadu government on mandatory submission of Aadhaar: Voicing our fears of exclusion and privacy violation https://internetfreedom.in/we-wrote-to-the-tamil-nadu-government/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | https://www.indiatoday.in/fyi/story/aadhar-uidai-cyber-spying-cia-wikileaks-report-cross-match-technologies-1032343-2017-08-27

16:38 TR Bot; We wrote to the Tamil Nadu government on mandatory submission of Aadhaar: Voicing our fears of exclusion and privacy violation

16:38 TR Bot; Wikileaks report claims CIA may access Aadhaar card details, government denies - India Today

16:38 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/another_batch.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/another_batch.gmi

16:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

16:39 TR News; French and Gentoo-based Bicom 6.7.0 "PBXware" is out http://www.bicomsystems.com/products/pbxware/

16:39 TR Bot; Bicom Systems - PBXware IP PBX - Multi-Tenant, Call Center, Business

16:42 TR News; Microsoft's longtime propagandist Davey Winder trying to shift attention away from Microsoft's back doors, as usual (he can't help himself, revealing his Redmond handlers) https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2023/01/11/google-kickstarts-2023-with-17-chrome-security-vulnerability-updates-for-windows-mac--linux/

16:42 TR Bot; Google Kickstarts 2023 With 17 Chrome Security Vulnerability Updates

16:43 TR News; Aside from cost and customizability, RISC-V (pronounced risk-five) benefits from being a modern, elegantly designed architecture without the baggage of legacy code, says Eric Brown. Along with the open development environment, the modern design appeals to developers, who are increasingly crucial to success. https://www.fosslife.org/key-technologies-2023-risc-v-rise

16:43 TR Bot; Key Technologies for 2023: RISC-V on the Rise

16:44 TR News; Introducing the new MKR IoT Carrier Rev2: Time to start your next IoT project | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/01/11/introducing-the-new-mkr-iot-carrier-rev2/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2023/01/11/introducing-the-new-mkr-iot-carrier-rev2/

16:44 TR Bot; Introducing the new MKR IoT Carrier Rev2: Time to start your next IoT project | Arduino Blog

16:45 TR News; "RISC-V chips have already begun to pop up in earbuds, hard drives" https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/01/09/1064876/riscv-computer-chips-10-breakthough-technologies-2023/

16:45 TR Bot; A chip design that changes everything: 10 Breakthrough Technologies 2023 | MIT Technology Review

16:46 TR News; How Rupert Murdoch spins people getting poorer (because few, including Murdoch, suck all the capital out of the economy) https://www.wsj.com/articles/chip-inventories-swell-as-consumers-buy-fewer-gadgets-11672092605

16:46 TR Bot; Inventories Swell as Consumers Buy Fewer Gadgets - WSJ

16:48 TR News; "One of my recent projects has had me exploring the feasability of cross compiling Rust code for several achitectures on Linux." gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/cross_compilers_part_1.gmi

16:53 TR News; ICYMI Python on Microcontrollers Newsletter: New Products, Learning Resources and much more https://blog.adafruit.com/2023/01/11/icymi-python-on-microcontrollers-newsletter-new-products-learning-resources-and-much-more-circuitpython-python-icymi-micropython-raspberry_pi/

16:53 TR Bot; ICYMI Python on Microcontrollers Newsletter: New Products, Learning Resources and much more! #CircuitPython #Python #ICYMI @micropython @Raspberry_Pi Adafruit Industries Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!

16:54 TR News; "Build a Roland 808-style step sequencer to trigger multiple drum tracks in your digital audio workstation (DAW), such as GarageBand or Ableton, over USB MIDI. All built in CircuitPython, and easy to customize." https://learn.adafruit.com/16-step-drum-sequencer

16:54 TR Bot; Overview | 16-Step Drum Sequencer | Adafruit Learning System

16:54 TR News; "Joe used a Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W to drive it, a DAC, NeoPixel LEDs (from Adafruit) for a VU meter, capacitive touch sensing buttons for the controls, and flat PiezoListen speakers from TDK." https://blog.adafruit.com/2023/01/11/joe-grand-creates-the-worlds-thinnest-boombox/

16:54 TR Bot; Joe Grand Creates the Worlds Thinnest Boombox Adafruit Industries Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!

16:56 TR News; "I have said many times that I think Ted Turner was perhaps the most innovative man in the history of televisionwho, during his history as a cable television mogul, had developed a reputation of building genuinely interesting ideas for broadcast programming" https://tedium.co/2023/01/11/ted-turner-cable-music-channel-history/

16:56 TR Bot; Ted Turner Made an MTV Competitor That Died After Only a Month

16:57 TR News; was

16:57 TR News; "Ill give you a hintit played music, and it didnt really work. Todays Tedium talks about the Cable Music Channel, a network that lasted five whole days longer than CNN+ did. Yes, thats how bad of a flop it was." https://tedium.co/2023/01/11/ted-turner-cable-music-channel-history/

16:57 TR News; Dirk Eddelbuettel: qlcal 0.0.4 on CRAN: Extended and Updated http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2023/01/11#qlcal-r_0.0.4

16:57 TR Bot; Thinking inside the box

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17:00 TR News; What a bizarre Gemini capsule gemini://yam655.com

17:01 TR News; (NEW): Nautilus File Manager Adds Expandable Tree View http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Nautilus_File_Manager_Adds_Expandable_Tree_View.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Nautilus_File_Manager_Adds_Expandable_Tree_View.gmi

17:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines Nautilus File Manager Adds Expandable Tree View

17:03 TR News; "now available for Enterprise Linux users" https://www.prweb.com/releases/2023/1/prweb19108352.htm they mean ICBM/Red Hat

17:03 TR Bot; SingularityCE Container Technology is Now Available in the EPEL Repository

17:05 TR News; "performance is terrible, but that's hopefully resolved with the GSP work which is still ongoing :)" https://chaos.social/@karolherbst/109666048560595911

17:05 TR Bot; : "User (thanks for testing @etarsis@mastodon.gamede" - chaos.social

17:06 TR News; (NEW): Red Hat Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi

17:06 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat Leftovers

17:07 TR News; "This week, Linux Out Loud chats about the age of building PCs coming to an end." https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/linux-out-loud/lol-46/

17:07 TR Bot; Build Your Own - Linux Out Loud - TuxDigital

17:07 TR News; 18392 tech employees laid off in 2023... in 36 companies. https://layoffs.fyi/

17:07 TR Bot; - Tech Layoff Tracker and Startup Layoff Lists

17:07 TR News; Amazon alone is more than 18k https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-to-lay-off-over-17-000-workers-more-than-first-planned-11672874304?mod=djemalertNEWS

17:07 TR Bot; Layoffs to Hit Over 18,000 Workers, the Most in Recent Tech Wave - WSJ

17:14 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/258472

17:14 TR Bot; Hes had a fever for over a week, they don&#x27;t allow him to lie down and refuse to treat him: Yulia Navalnaya on her husband&#x27;s condition

17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

17:44 psydruid; https://www.bbc.com/news/business-64231473

17:44 TR Bot; Mail 'cyber-incident' hits overseas post - BBC News

17:46 MinceR; https://existentialcomics.com/comic/477

17:46 TR Bot; World Championship Philosophy - Existential Comics

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19:39 phanes; schestowitz[TR], yes FSF is too idle. I'm not sure if it's recovering well politically from all the internal movements from the RMS thing a couple years ago.

19:42 MinceR; it's dead, Jim

19:43 XRevan86; https://smbc-comics.com/comic/misquotation

19:43 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Misquotation

19:43 MinceR; lol

19:43 phanes; tbh it probably needs an agitation presence to keep it healthy

19:44 MinceR; too late

19:44 MinceR; it got infiltrated by corporate SJWs

19:44 phanes; there are bad actors in there, yeah i was just about to say that

19:44 MinceR; some of them started the "GNU assembly"

19:44 MinceR; many of their people started relying on ShitHub

19:45 MinceR; when rasengan took over freenode, the FSF had a chance to at least ensure they had control over their IRC channels

19:45 MinceR; they chose not to have that control

19:47 phanes; im curious what you mean by that

19:49 MinceR; by what

19:49 XRevan86; MinceR means self-hosting.

19:49 MinceR; it didn't even have to be self-hosting, though that would have been preferable

19:49 MinceR; all it took was moving to an IRC network that _isn't_ controlled by people who tried to cancel RMS and the board of the FSF

19:49 MinceR; there are probably hundreds of such networks

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19:58 phanes; oh, that, yeah

19:59 phanes; well maybe they'll be able to move their portfolio forward with more emotionally charged discussions about their genitals

8 PM, January 11

20:00 MinceR; lol

20:01 phanes; i cant give them too much shit though, there are elements in FSF that are trying to resolve problems I want to see resolved

20:01 phanes; they weren't paying attention to it before their channel was shut down on freenode

20:03 phanes; but again

20:03 phanes; their venue selection speaks volumes about the problem that they are afflicted by

20:03 phanes; as you said

20:04 phanes; by the time they were shut down they needed to move where the majority of other open source projects sit so it's a symptom of a larger problem

20:04 MinceR; oh, also, apparently nobody in the FSF dare speak about freedom-related issues with software as long as it's under a license they approve

20:05 MinceR; and they are even more useless when it comes to issues with hardware

20:05 MinceR; s/are/ares/

20:05 MinceR; undo

20:05 MinceR; s/dare/dares/

20:06 phanes; you can thank environment shaping for that

20:07 phanes; the FSF's opposition is not unintelligent

20:08 phanes; if the available pool of contributors is facing an ideological minefield vs. making lots of money to infect it with things it wasn't designed to address, an entire little faux-culture will form that thinks a certain way

20:08 phanes; its mission is partially hijacked imo

20:09 MinceR; closer to entirely

20:10 MinceR; they prop up IM even as IM does everything they can to eliminate our freedoms

20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

20:22 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/odditymall-1.jpg

20:34 phanes; eh? what is it that you think IBM is doing?

20:35 MinceR; forcing more former GNU/Linux distros to adopt systemd and gnome and keep offering only those to users

20:35 MinceR; orchestrating cancellation attempts against people who speak out in support of free software

20:35 phanes; like what?

20:36 phanes; im not seeing that

20:36 MinceR; generally polluting what used to be the free software community with SJW bullshit

20:36 phanes; do you mean RH?

20:36 MinceR; IM owns RH

20:36 phanes; i know that, im just not seeing what youre talking about

20:36 MinceR; exploiting their control over systemd, gnome and various distros to push other crap

20:37 phanes; example please

20:37 MinceR; you didn't see them use their control over gnome to force debian to adopt systemd as the only "option"?

20:37 MinceR; or to use their control over the debian TC to prevent debian from changing their default DE away from gnome?

20:37 phanes; oh gnome is just a cancer project

20:38 phanes; always been that way since the 3.0 release

20:38 MinceR; or you didn't see IM buy RH, and then not only keep it functioning the same as before but take its CEO as IM president?

20:39 MinceR; well, that cancer project became a tool of forcing systemd into OS-es, by not even accepting patches to implement support for running it without systemd

20:45 phanes; link please

20:45 MinceR; for what

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9 PM, January 11

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21:14 DaemonFC; https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=JXMIpHDgb2A

21:14 TR Bot; Gus Fring: Scarier Than We Thought - Invidious

21:15 phanes; MinceR, for this: well, that cancer project became a tool of forcing systemd into OS-es, by not even accepting patches to implement support for running it without systemd

21:15 DaemonFC; I appreciated what they eventually portray Gus Fring as.

21:15 DaemonFC; He's a psychopath that actually has a lot of empathy.

21:15 DaemonFC; The guy is just very compartmentalized.

21:16 DaemonFC; He has firewalls set up to the point where it's almost like multiple personalities, except that he's the same person using the same identity with all of them.

21:18 MinceR; phanes: this seems to be a good starting point >> https://github.com/dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemd

21:18 TR Bot; - dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemd: GNOME Without Systemd

21:18 DaemonFC; There's one side of Gus that is patient, unflappable, outwardly kind, and charismatic, there's the vengeful man who is also very patient, but he's cruel and will wait decades to savor inflicting revenge on the people who wronged him, and there's the side that's in the normal mentally-healthy human being range, perhaps even truly a nice man. A man who was once in love. The Salamancas fractured his psyche when they killed Max.

21:19 DaemonFC; Previously, there had just been the Gus that ran the fried chicken chain and sold meth on the side, but he was very much the same man.

21:19 DaemonFC; They've obviously consulted with excellent psychiatrists for the character profiles on these shows.

21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

21:20 DaemonFC; Because they've shown with Gus what horrible trauma (being forced, at gunpoint, to look at the person you love, who was just murdered, and threatened with being next.

21:20 DaemonFC; In 30-40 seconds the man changed forever from the trauma and anger, and when they let him go they had no idea the mistake they had made.

21:27 psydruid; "How GNU/Linux turned into GNOME/Cancer: a post mortem"

21:27 techuser; Is it an article?

21:27 psydruid; yes

21:27 psydruid; it just hasn't been written yet

21:28 MinceR; will you write it?

21:28 psydruid; I'm not sure I have the motivation for it

21:28 psydruid; I've got better things to do

21:29 techuser; schestowitz-TR: regarding things here, power outages were more often yesterday and the day before it. Today as usual, iirc.

21:49 DaemonFC; MinceR, I was explaining police procedure to Mandy because he was watching a video of the cops going to a guy's house over a stolen backpack.

21:49 DaemonFC; And then the guy's sister shows up and starts going crazy.

21:49 DaemonFC; I was listing everything both of them did that they shouldn't do, what charges are coming, why everything the cops did was legal, and how both of those people could have avoided being arrested for anything, or even having the house searched.

21:50 DaemonFC; "Ask if they have a search warrant through the door. If they don't, don't open the door."

21:50 DaemonFC; Guy opens the door. Cop says "I smeel weed.". Classic.

21:51 DaemonFC; The guy was an idiot. At one point, the cops searched his garbage cans, and Mandy says "They can't do that.". I said, "Yes they can. Anything you throw in the trash is fair game.".

21:51 DaemonFC; That includes flash drives, memory sticks, hard disks....

21:51 MinceR; :>

21:51 DaemonFC; MinceR, I told mom one day....She asked, "What is that noise?".

21:52 DaemonFC; I said, "I'm throwing out some old hard disks, so I have to Hillary Clinton them first.".

21:53 DaemonFC; Drive was encrypted, but you boot up, do a sector-by-sector wipe, then format the disk.

21:53 DaemonFC; Then you take it out, break open the enclosure, take the platters out.

21:53 DaemonFC; Run a degaussing magnet over them thoroughly.

21:53 DaemonFC; Take a screwdriver and scratch the hell out of the platter surface.

21:54 DaemonFC; Then you take scissors and cut them up into ribbons, and then you take a hammer and bash the ribbons in to crumple them up real good.

21:54 DaemonFC; If they want to pull anything off, good luck with that.

21:55 DaemonFC; BTW, Western Digital builds their external hard drives pretty well.

21:55 MinceR; :>

21:56 DaemonFC; I cannot recommend Seagate for hard disks.

21:56 DaemonFC; They have about 3x the failure rate of WD over any given time span, and cost at least as much, so what's the point?

21:56 DaemonFC; And they don't bother mentioning Linux anywhere in the documentation.

21:57 DaemonFC; When I bought my WD, it had Tux on the box and it had instructions for formatting the disk for Linux that were fairly accurate for 2016.

21:57 CrystalMath; i got a Toshiba, hope it will work as well as Hitachi stuff

21:57 CrystalMath; (but the likelyhood of that, it seems, is 0.000001%)

10 PM, January 11

22:05 DaemonFC; I have a Toshiba right now.

22:05 DaemonFC; The throughput isn't spectacular.

22:06 DaemonFC; If you try to run a bittorrent download, I wouldn't do that AND try to play a 4K movie over it.

22:06 DaemonFC; Maybe I'm just spoiled by SSDs.

22:07 DaemonFC; I've considered just shelling out for an external SSD and making it another BtrFS volume now that BtrFS is reasonably stable, I haven't lost data to it, and it's got a lot of nice features.

22:07 DaemonFC; The recent Linux kernels have improved BtrFS greatly.

22:08 DaemonFC; It was written with a lot of special-case code that wasn't used by anything else, and so it never really got a shakedown except by all of the early adopters that started losing data to it.

22:08 DaemonFC; But now that a lot of that is in the other layers, like VFS, and the specific code for BtrFS is being removed, it's as reliable is anything, I suppose.

22:09 DaemonFC; I was concerned by Fedora's decision to switch to it, but I think that was a good call looking over how it's worked out.

22:09 DaemonFC; Especially with ZStandard, which is so fast you won't even notice if there is any CPU overhead.

22:10 DaemonFC; Fedora has been known for "fly by the seat of your pants" stuff into things that clearly don't work right and won't for years.

22:10 DaemonFC; Which is why I left KDE, a big reason I left KDE.

22:10 DaemonFC; I switched to GNOME on most of my systems BECAUSE Fedora brought in KDE 4.0.

22:10 MinceR; there was lot to improve about btrfs ever since it was announced "stable"

22:10 MinceR; considering it took about a week to corrupt the fs i tried it with when it was "stable"

22:11 MinceR; even MICROS~1's filesystem implementations tend to be more stable than that

22:11 DaemonFC; It was truly awful and I was concerned about BtrFS for the same reason. I was concerned it was too early and it's a file system, so it's a lot more to go wrong than just parts of your desktop crashing because KDE absolutely HAD TO HAVE 4.0 when they did.

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22:11 phanes; MinceR, this link demonstrates gnome has a dependency on systemd it does not demonstrate that the gnome project is refusing patches to support other init systems

22:11 DaemonFC; <MinceR> even MICROS~1's filesystem implementations tend to be more stable than that

22:11 DaemonFC; Yeah, early BtrFS was quite bad.

22:11 DaemonFC; It usually takes years to seriously rot NTFS.

22:11 phanes; as far as i can tell anyway, its alot of rambling

22:12 DaemonFC; So if you can't do better than that, kill yourself.

22:12 DaemonFC; :P

22:12 MinceR; phanes: why are those patches not merged into gnome, then?

22:12 phanes; MinceR, have they been submitted with a pull request to gnome mainline?

22:12 MinceR; well, i've seen Backdoors corrupt 3 VFAT filesystems immediately upon seeing them, but that was one time, i think

22:12 MinceR; phanes: i don't develop those patches, i'm the wrong person to ask

22:13 phanes; MinceR, then it sounds like you are making assumptions

22:13 MinceR; uh huh

22:13 MinceR; it sounds like you aren't really willing to do the research

22:13 phanes; no im not

22:14 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2023/01/11/1148334198/a-man-stabs-6-people-at-a-central-paris-train-station-before-police-shoot-him

22:14 TR Bot; Paris train station attacks leaves 6 injured; police shoot assailant : NPR

22:15 phanes; but look we're agreed gnome is an ugly thing that causes a net harm to f/oss

22:15 DaemonFC; Maybe he was interacting with Debian developers.

22:15 DaemonFC; :)

22:15 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], ^

22:15 MinceR; i had a collection of links on cancerd but i made the mistake of just keeping them in a browser

22:15 MinceR; so i'm not sure where they are now

22:16 MinceR; i keep the more recent stuff in text files in a git repo

22:16 DaemonFC; "The suspect attacked several people, including a police officer, with a "bladed weapon" during the morning rush hour, Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin told reporters at the scene, flanked by Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo.

22:16 DaemonFC; He said the unnamed assailant was currently "between life and death" in hospital after being shot in the chest, according to French media. Darmanin thanked the police "for their effective and courageous reaction.""

22:17 DaemonFC; So let me get this straight. Liberal narrative: There's no way to hurt a lot of people without a gun and a good guy with a gun never saves people from bad guys. But, 6 people were stabbed in Paris today in under a minute at a train station, and the only reason the guy didn't keep going was because a cop, with a gun, shot him in the chest.

22:17 DaemonFC; Maybe we should take the guns away from the cops at the train station.

22:18 DaemonFC; They can stop the next mass stabbing attack, which are common in Europe, with foul language or something.

22:18 DaemonFC; "Nom de Dieu de putain de bordel de merde de saloperies de connards d'encul de ta mre. It's like wiping your arse with silk, I love it."

22:19 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^

22:19 DaemonFC; :)

22:19 MinceR; lol

22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

22:23 DaemonFC; MinceR, I got my new eyeglasses today.

22:24 DaemonFC; Apparently, Luxottica isn't the only cartel of eyewear.

22:24 DaemonFC; There's another one called VSP.

22:24 DaemonFC; Walmart goes through VSP to offer employee vision insurance, and then they pulled a Luxottica and bought about a dozen brands of frames and Carl Zeiss optics to make their own lenses.

22:25 DaemonFC; I think the biggest difference is Luxottica is a lot bigger, and with them it's entirely possible that they're the insurance company, the frame company, the lens company, the store owner, and the employer of the optometrist.

22:25 DaemonFC; So they're worse than VSP.

22:26 DaemonFC; With VSP they own the insurance company and the frames and lenses, but the optometrist at Walmart owns his own business, and the store is Walmart.

22:26 DaemonFC; So it's smaller and less vertically integrated.

22:26 DaemonFC; I absolutely will not buy from Luxottica.

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22:28 MinceR; what's the insurance for?

22:29 DaemonFC; eye exams and glasses

22:29 DaemonFC; It looks like the Public Pretender sent Fumbles McCrackhead upstairs a letter.

22:30 DaemonFC; 22 CM 1200 (visible in the window). The post office just throws his mail somewhere.

22:30 DaemonFC; 2022-09-091GURNEESUBSTANTIVE OFFENSERETAIL THEFT/DISP MERCH/<$3002022-10-12BOND FORFEITED

22:30 DaemonFC; 2022-09-091GURNEESUBSTANTIVE OFFENSERETAIL THEFT/DISP MERCH/<$3002022-12-29BOND FORFEITED

22:30 DaemonFC; Well, that's awesome.

22:31 DaemonFC; He can't even be bothered to show up over a petty theft that the state will throw out anyway because it doesn't have time to take it to trial.

22:31 DaemonFC; MinceR, He's in trouble over something at a minimum of every 3 to 6 months.

22:32 DaemonFC; So that's not even the most current case. He was picked up by the police again for shoplifting at Walmart in December while he was out on an I-Bond for this.

22:32 DaemonFC; And they released him again.

22:33 DaemonFC; 2022-12-281WAUKEGANSUBSTANTIVE OFFENSERETAIL THEFT/DISP MERCH/<$300

22:34 *MinceR buys some Disp Merch

22:34 DaemonFC; I gotz some DISP MERCH yo!

22:34 DaemonFC; I finna be sellin'.

22:34 DaemonFC; BIZNATCH!

22:35 DaemonFC; "YOU CALLED MY ABUELITA BIZNATCH!" *STOMPS ON THE GUY'S LEG AND SNAPS THE BONE* -Tuco Salamanca

22:35 DaemonFC; And that was when Tuco could be reasoned with.

22:35 DaemonFC; Before the Blue Meth had him out machine gunning cows and laughing and shouting "THERE'S NOTHING LEFT OF IT! HAHAHAHAHAHA!".

22:35 MinceR; :)

22:36 DaemonFC; Saul Goodman talked him down from slitting their throats and pulling their tongue out through their neck and dumping the bodies somewhere.

22:36 DaemonFC; (Colombian Necktie)

22:37 DaemonFC; Then they were mad because he convinced Tuco to just break their legs instead to "send a message that you're tough, but fair".

22:38 DaemonFC; He was going to break both of their legs, but Saul talked him down again, and it was just one leg each.

22:38 DaemonFC; He is a lawyer....

22:38 DaemonFC; Plea bargaining, you know. :)

22:38 DaemonFC; Out in the desert, with a deranged psychopath high on meth.

22:39 DaemonFC; I like Tuco. He's just incredibly violent, to the point where calling his grandmother Biznatch was enough that he was seriously going to slit the guy's throat and pull his tongue out his neck for doing that.

22:40 DaemonFC; There is just something about a guy who goes around giving Colombian Neckties because you slighted him and putting out cigarettes on his tongue that is just badass to where you do respect him, you know.

22:40 DaemonFC; If you know what's good for you.

22:41 DaemonFC; You'd think that his man who he killed for speaking out of turn would have witnessed enough of Tuco's behavior to never cross him.

22:42 DaemonFC; If you're dealing with a person who will murder you in some horrific way for slighting them, then you should be very eager to please, right?

22:42 MinceR; or just kill him ASAP, if you can

22:42 DaemonFC; That's the thing.

22:42 DaemonFC; You work for him, you're rolling in money.

22:43 DaemonFC; You piss him off, you're dead.

22:43 DaemonFC; You kill him, his family comes after you and you're also dead.

22:43 MinceR; there are other ways of getting money

22:43 DaemonFC; You leave, you know too much about him and he can't allow you to live, so you're also dead.

22:43 DaemonFC; It's a life that's kind of hard to leave once you're that far in.

22:44 DaemonFC; <MinceR> there are other ways of getting money

22:44 DaemonFC; They don't just let people leave, MinceR

22:44 DaemonFC; Once you're out, you're a liability.

22:44 DaemonFC; The police could pick you up and start threatening you unless you cooperate, then you disappear off into a witness protection program where the cartel can't find you.

22:44 DaemonFC; So you leave, you're a liability that cannot be allowed to exist.

22:45 DaemonFC; It's like the mafia.

22:45 DaemonFC; I met a man who used to be a high ranking member of the Chicago Outfit, met him back in the 1990s.

22:45 DaemonFC; He had to go into Witness Protection for years.

22:46 DaemonFC; They tried to kill him with a car bomb, but they wired it to the ignition wrong, and his car just didn't start.

22:46 DaemonFC; He got extremely lucky.

22:47 DaemonFC; I don't imagine that Mexican cartels are much nicer than that when someone wants out.

22:56 DaemonFC; MinceR, So the way vision insurance works is the vertical integration.

22:56 DaemonFC; First off, you pay the eye doctor like $85 for a basic exam these days.

22:56 DaemonFC; If you get the insurance, it's like $4.

22:57 DaemonFC; He gives you your prescription and you CAN take it anywhere, but if you have the vision insurance, they drastically mark down their own brands for you with an "allowance" and a small co-pay.

22:57 DaemonFC; So it pretty much forces you to be their customer, because at this point if you go anywhere else, you pay at least as much, probably more.

22:58 MinceR; ic

22:58 DaemonFC; So they're going to make money either from selling the exams and horrifically marked up glasses, or the insurance.

22:58 MinceR; here they usually do the exam gratis if you have them make the glasses

22:58 DaemonFC; But you're not getting out of one or the other.

22:58 DaemonFC; Yes, that's another way you can get an eye exam.

22:58 DaemonFC; It's "free" at some places without insurance, but they're not legally obligated to tell you what your prescription is then unless you buy something from them.

22:59 DaemonFC; So then the glasses ar $750-$1,000 a pair. :)

22:59 DaemonFC; Because "free exam".

22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

11 PM, January 11

23:01 TR News; (NEW): GnuCash 5.0 Accounting Software Promises New Stock Transaction Assistant, More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/GnuCash_5_0_Accounting_Software_Promises_New_Stock_Transaction_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/GnuCash_5_0_Accounting_Software_Promises_New_Stock_Transaction_.gmi

23:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines GnuCash 5.0 Accounting Software Promises New Stock Transaction Assistant, More

23:02 TR News; (NEW): Wordbook: Offline English Dictionary App for GNOME http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Wordbook_Offline_English_Dictionary_App_for_GNOME.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Wordbook_Offline_English_Dictionary_App_for_GNOME.gmi

23:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines Wordbook: Offline English Dictionary App for GNOME

23:02 TR News; (NEW): #HowTo Import LibreOffice Calc Spreadsheet to Base Database Table http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/How_to_Import_LibreOffice_Calc_Spreadsheet_to_Base_Database_Tab.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/How_to_Import_LibreOffice_Calc_Spreadsheet_to_Base_Database_Tab.gmi

23:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines How to Import LibreOffice Calc Spreadsheet to Base Database Table

23:02 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi

23:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers

23:09 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show how to install OpenMandriva ROME 23.01." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qJOBiDwDr2w

23:10 TR Bot; How to install OpenMandriva ROME 23.01 - Invidious

23:10 DaemonFC; Today's word is "bombast".

23:10 DaemonFC; That's a good word. You can even combine it with yesterday's word, "Germane".

23:10 TR News; A Quick Overview of BunsenLabs Linux Beryllium https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_lk2hsSCmOY

23:10 TR Bot; BunsenLabs Linux Beryllium Quick Overview #shorts - Invidious

23:11 DaemonFC; "Your honor, I was impressed with the bombastic nature of the state's opening speech, but frankly I am at loss for how any of it was germane to the situation we are presented with today."

23:12 DaemonFC; A nice way of saying "The irrelevant ramblings of a self-important man. Nothing more.".

23:13 TR News; "I have learnt a lot since I applied to Outreachy and started working on my internship project. I think the most interesting thing I have learnt about so far is Valgrind." https://shinigami65.wordpress.com/2022/12/26/outreachy-week-3-new-learnings/

23:13 TR Bot; Outreachy Week 3: New Learnings Shinigami's Blog

23:14 DaemonFC; MinceR, https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=5YOVN2BTSmI

23:14 TR Bot; One Long Incredibly Unbroken Sentance - Invidious

23:14 TR News; "I am an Outreachy intern with the GNOME Foundation working on the Create infrastructure for Performance tracking for librsvg project." https://shinigami65.wordpress.com/2023/01/11/outreachy-week-5-my-project-and-progress-so-far/

23:14 TR Bot; Outreachy Week 5: My project and progress so far Shinigami's Blog

23:15 TR News; GNOME flirting with DRM of a malicious company https://informatique-libre.be/swilmet/blog/2023-01-11-gedit-microsoft-store.html

23:15 TR Bot; gedit on the Microsoft Store :: Sbastien Wilmet's blog

23:18 TR News; "The Linux command line delivers great power. The problem is, the correct use of that power hinges on the accuracy of your typing. Here are eight typos you never want to make." https://www.howtogeek.com/856515/typos-you-really-need-to-avoid-on-linux/

23:18 TR Bot; 8 Typos You Really Need to Avoid on Linux

23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-01-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

23:21 TR News; linuxsecurity.com (Brittany Day) shilling Microsoft garbage, boosting Microsoft sites. Very, very disappointing. https://linuxsecurity.com/news/vendors-products/microsoft-s-security-update-guide-to-report-on-cbl-mariner-linux-vulnerabilities

23:21 TR Bot; Microsoft's Security Update Guide To Report on CBL-Mariner Linux Vu...

23:26 TR News; "Stunt actors, especially in the 1970s and 80s, did a lot of flying around using something called an air ramp. This is a pneumatic or hydraulic device that springs forward when you step on it, propelling you into the air like youre jumping dramatically or being thrown by an explosion." https://blog.adafruit.com/2023/01/11/building-an-air-ramp-that-can-launch-a-person-20-feet/

23:26 TR Bot; Building an Air Ramp That Can Launch a Person 20 Feet Adafruit Industries Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!

23:27 TR News; R-D - Optimizing 3D glTF Assets for Interactive Journalism https://rd.nytimes.com/projects/optimizing-3d-gltf-assets-for-interactive-journalism | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//rd.nytimes.com/projects/optimizing-3d-gltf-assets-for-interactive-journalism

23:27 TR Bot; R&D - Optimizing 3D glTF Assets for Interactive Journalism

23:28 TR News; Openwashing https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-RDNA3-ISA-Guide "doesn't cover programming details for other IP blocks. While years ago AMD focused on providing publicly available programming documentation for their hardware as part of their open-source driver effort"

23:28 TR Bot; RDNA3 ISA Reference Guide Published - Phoronix

23:30 TR News; "Around the first 'public' release of Perl 6 (The x-mas release) I wrote a module that uses the libgumbo from google to parse html5 webpages." https://blogs.perl.org/users/sylvain_colinet/2023/01/benchmarking-rakudo-releases-is-raku-still-slow.html

23:30 TR Bot; Rakudo releases. Is Raku Still slow? | Sylvain Colinet [blogs.perl.org]

23:31 TR News; Syslog-ng 101, part 4: Configuration and testing | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP Czanik https://peter.czanik.hu/other/syslog-ng-tutorial-part-4-configuration-testing/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//peter.czanik.hu/other/syslog-ng-tutorial-part-4-configuration-testing/

23:31 TR Bot; Syslog-ng 101, part 4: Configuration and testing | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik

23:32 TR News; Fourth covid winter gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/agk/2023-01-11-vid.txt

23:32 TR News; It's apparently a valid URL, despite it being malformed in my opinion gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2023/01/11.1

23:33 TR News; State of the 'Net entering 2023: indienet, smolweb, gemini gemini://subphase.xyz/users/flow/gemlog/33-moment.gmi

23:33 TR News; (NEW): Xubuntu 23.04 Will Offer Official Minimal Image http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Xubuntu_23_04_Will_Offer_Official_Minimal_Image.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Xubuntu_23_04_Will_Offer_Official_Minimal_Image.gmi

23:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Xubuntu 23.04 Will Offer Official Minimal Image

23:33 TR News; (NEW): Liferea Feed Reader finally Released 1.14.0 Stable [Ubuntu PPA] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Liferea_Feed_Reader_finally_Released_1_14_0_Stable_Ubuntu_PPA.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Liferea_Feed_Reader_finally_Released_1_14_0_Stable_Ubuntu_PPA.gmi

23:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Liferea Feed Reader finally Released 1.14.0 Stable [Ubuntu PPA]

23:33 DaemonFC; My sage green shirt arrived.

23:33 TR News; (NEW): Godot Engine - Godot 4.0 Documentation Sprint http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Godot_Engine_Godot_4_0_Documentation_Sprint.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Godot_Engine_Godot_4_0_Documentation_Sprint.gmi

23:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Godot Engine - Godot 4.0 Documentation Sprint

23:34 DaemonFC; Now all I need are those Clarks Wallabee shoes.

23:34 TR News; (NEW): Fedora 38 is finally taking shape http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Fedora_38_is_finally_taking_shape.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Fedora_38_is_finally_taking_shape.gmi

23:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Fedora 38 is finally taking shape

23:34 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: what are you gonna become, mister peanuts?

23:34 DaemonFC; Walter White.

23:35 schestowitz[TR]; i c

23:35 DaemonFC; I thought it would be funny to emulate his dress style from the first half of Season 5 for court.

23:35 MinceR; lol @ Mr Peanut

23:36 DaemonFC; https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/7/17/1437147332577/cd5a36a1-2aff-4b78-a784-77f19d12d8a8-2060x1236.jpeg?width=445&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=b7898688eeaf46789b07362698ec652d

23:36 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^

23:37 TR News; Sabine Soellheim is shilling SAP proprietary junk INSTEAD OF the SUSE products. I.e. the usual... https://www.suse.com/c/sap-security-5-critical-considerations/

23:37 TR Bot; Security: 5 Critical Considerations to Protect Your Infrastructure | SUSE Communities

23:37 TR News; Kicking off 2023 with the MIT Reality Hack! https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2023/01/11/kicking-off-2023-mit-reality-hack/ Source: Collabora | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2023/01/11/kicking-off-2023-mit-reality-hack/

23:37 TR Bot; Kicking off 2023 with the MIT Reality Hack!

23:37 DaemonFC; MinceR, I found some decent Tag Monaco clones. Much cheaper of course.

23:37 DaemonFC; Quartz movement.

23:37 MinceR; even the suse products are proprietary junk

23:37 DaemonFC; Probably more accurate than Walt's $300,000 watch.

23:38 DaemonFC; I was watching a Youtube video today.

23:38 TR News; HEY HI or plagiarism blurred away? https://dwaves.de/2023/01/11/ai-ki-generates-pictures-from-words/

23:38 TR Bot; AI KI generates pictures from words | dwaves.de

23:38 DaemonFC; They're right. There's no "technical" reason to keep making automatic mechanical watches.

23:38 DaemonFC; They aren't as accurate, and can never be. The only upside really is there's no battery in them.

23:39 TR News; (NEW): Kali Linux (is) Everywhere! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Kali_Linux_is_Everywhere.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/Kali_Linux_is_Everywhere.gmi

23:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kali Linux (is) Everywhere!

23:39 DaemonFC; Even the simplest automatic mechanical movements have almost 100 parts in them.

23:39 DaemonFC; They cost more because it's more labor intensive to put them together at the factory, even if you're offshoring everything to Malaysia or something.

23:39 MinceR; and apparently they take pride in having as many moving parts as possible

23:39 DaemonFC; Like Seiko does for the NH35A.

23:40 DaemonFC; MinceR, The 6308 is actually mechanically simpler than the NH35A.

23:40 DaemonFC; And it keeps better time, I'm told.

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23:41 DaemonFC; Seiko used them in the 5 series in the 1980s and they almost all still work fine.

23:41 DaemonFC; They were a 17 jewel movement without support for hacking.

23:41 DaemonFC; Hacking support actually increases the number of parts and makes the watch more prone to losing time.

23:42 DaemonFC; So you can set it perfectly, but there's more internal friction and this can cause the movement to run a little bit slower.

23:42 DaemonFC; The NH35A goes into all sorts of watches.

23:43 DaemonFC; You can find it in $29 watches and $400 watches.

23:43 DaemonFC; YOu go higher than that, you don't really see it anymore.

23:43 DaemonFC; They go with fancier ones.

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23:44 DaemonFC; Most people buy on brand and if they like the watch or not. Not what's actually behind the scenes making it work.

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23:44 DaemonFC; As long as it doesn't lose a horrific amount of time, most people are okay with it.

23:44 DaemonFC; Setting an automatic watch once or twice a month isn't a major hassle.

23:45 DaemonFC; Rolex is squarely in the "It's just jewelry. Why are you expecting this to keep good time?" category.

23:45 DaemonFC; It's junk. They lose time like crazy.

23:45 DaemonFC; As they age it gets way worse and you go in for $1,300 service every 4-5 years when you can't stand it anymore.

23:45 DaemonFC; :)

23:46 DaemonFC; I would be madder than hell if I paid that much for a watch and had it losing a minute every day.

23:46 DaemonFC; You can get cheap junk at the mall that loses 5 seconds.

23:46 DaemonFC; How is a minute a day from a Rolex anywhere near an acceptable margin?

23:47 DaemonFC; Truth is, the Japanese make great stuff.

23:47 DaemonFC; An automatic is an automatic. It's never going to be dead on, but the Japanese have way better tolerances and quality control than the Swiss.

23:48 DaemonFC; It's been like that for 50 years or so and people still get Swiss watches.

23:48 DaemonFC; Status symbol, as schestowitz[TR] said.

23:48 schestowitz[TR]; yeah

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23:50 DaemonFC; I liked that episode of Breaking Bad where Jesse is smart enough to hide the meth he's been stealing out of Fring's Superlab. He doesn't get it past Walt, of course, but he comes up with an explanation that would probably have fooled almost anyone else, including Gus.

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23:50 DaemonFC; "Vestiges".

23:51 DaemonFC; Walt is sitting there trying to account for the 0.04% variance and Jesse is fumbling through explanations like "What about evaporation?" and Walt says "None of our chemicals are exposed to the open air long enough for long enough to account for this.".

23:51 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/today_s_howtos.4.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/01/11/today_s_howtos.4.gmi

23:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

23:51 DaemonFC; So Jesse says, "What about, like, the water on your beer?" Walt says, "Condensation? No, that's not possible.".

23:52 DaemonFC; So Jesse tries again and comes up with something plausible. "What about all that crap we scrape off the tanks. I mean, there's got to be like a gallon of that stuff, at least.".

23:52 DaemonFC; And Walt says, "Vestiges? Hmm. Maybe...." because he knows Fring has the place bugged.

23:52 DaemonFC; He can't let Fring know what's going on, so he helps Jesse misdirect with "Vestiges".

23:53 DaemonFC; Things can only ever be so precise.

23:53 TR News; They should instead work to obliterate the PATENTS https://www.newtimes.co.rw/article/4166/news/business/multi-million-dollar-fund-launched-to-boost-pharmaceutical-innovation-in-africa

23:53 TR Bot; Multi-million-dollar fund launched to boost pharmaceutical innovation in Africa - The New Times

23:53 DaemonFC; You engineer a process that minimizes waste and inefficiency, and you can still waste a lot, you know?

23:54 DaemonFC; In the last 50 years of Internal Combustion Engine development, the thermodynamic efficiency hasn't increased dramatically.

23:54 DaemonFC; They still waste about two-thirds of the energy in a gallon of gas, iirc.

23:54 TR News; Everything to Know About Passkeys for a Password-Free Future | Wirecutter https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/what-are-passkeys-and-how-they-can-replace-passwords/ Source: New York Times | Meh. We heard this BEFORE... and meanwhile the states STILL mandate BACK DOORS

23:54 TR Bot; Everything to Know About Passkeys for a Password-Free Future | Wirecutter

23:55 MinceR; 12 004437 < DaemonFC> Setting an automatic watch once or twice a month isn't a major hassle.

23:55 MinceR; it's a lot more hassle than i'm willing to put up with

23:55 DaemonFC; They just make the engine a lot smaller for the most part. They did increase efficiency, by making the gasoline burn better and reducing mechanical waste of work energy.

23:55 DaemonFC; But they're still horribly inefficient.

23:55 schestowitz[TR]; 24 times a year

23:55 schestowitz[TR]; for a device that's meant tto keep time

23:55 schestowitz[TR]; if you move it one minute backwards that may be like 65 clicks

23:56 DaemonFC; If you make the engine of a mechanically simpler design, you have less parts that are causing parasitic drain, hampering overall efficiency.

23:56 DaemonFC; But you can't change the fundamental laws of physics. You can only design the best possible engine within those laws.

23:57 schestowitz[TR]; ryan was like, "oh yeah?!"

23:57 DaemonFC; The Swiss watch movements are much the same thing, really.

23:57 schestowitz[TR]; "watch me"

23:57 TR News; "A quick video covering the newest release of Manjaro KDE. With a newer kernel and a fresher look will Manjaro retain the mantle of the Best Arch Distro?" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QYP8yGELfHQ

23:57 TR Bot; Manjaro KDE Still The King Of Arch Distros? - Invidious

23:58 TR News; "When we talk about Switching to Linux, we are not usually talking about a 100% change right now. You should move slowly for the best transition." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GLypBJN-xz8

23:58 TR Bot; Slowly Switching to Linux - Invidious

23:59 MinceR; who cares what's the "Best Arch Distro"? arch sucks.

23:59 TR News; "Devin Ulibarri and Walter Bender of Sugar Labs join Doc Searls and Dan Lynch on FLOSS Weekly. Searls and Lynch learn how kids can compose music and produce code with open source Music Blocks. You can learn too, in just an hour of fun listening. Or, even better, by watching this week's video." https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/714

23:59 TR Bot; Sugar Labs and Music Blocks

23:59 DaemonFC; The Japanese simplified theirs. The Swiss overdesign it.

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