IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, March 10, 2022

beginning of new day, March 10

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00:04 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Current and patched up? What bits? Trichrome?

00:05 DaemonFC; That part too.

00:08 XRevan86; DaemonFC: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app.3739733/post-84494735 annoying, yes.

00:08 Alternative link; Cloudflare: xda-developers.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app.3739733/post-84494735

00:08 TR Bot; [App][4.4+] Aurora Store - Open Source Play Store client [April 8 2021] | Page 71 | XDA Forums

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00:14 DaemonFC; MinceR, The computer at T-Mobile screwed up and told the guy I was eligible for a senior citizen discount if I switched to a T-Mobile plan.

00:14 DaemonFC; So I ditched the Sprint plans and went to two lines on T-Mobile's 55+ rate that works out to $70 a month instead of $90.

00:15 TR News; Industrial thin clients run IGEL Linux on Ryzen R1000 or V1000 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162349

00:15 TR Bot; Industrial thin clients run IGEL Linux on Ryzen R1000 or V1000 | Tux Machines

00:15 TR News; Mesa 22.0 Officially Released, Brings Vulkan 1.3 and Improves Support for Many Games Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162350

00:15 TR Bot; Mesa 22.0 Officially Released, Brings Vulkan 1.3 and Improves Support for Many Games | Tux Machines

00:17 DaemonFC; XRevan86, Yes, I even tell the T-Mobile people I could care less about the Play Store except you need to keep your security patches up to date and about half the OS is serviced through Play.

00:17 DaemonFC; Otherwise I use F-Droid because the apps are developed by people who want to make a nice app. Not some bug riddled piece of shit designed to throw ads all over the place, track you, and bill your credit cards.

00:17 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Are ye sure Aurora Store can't do the job (apart from the trichrome mess)?

00:17 DaemonFC; I'll really have to look into that.

00:18 DaemonFC; Is that what people in Russia have to do now that Google has to comply with sanctions?

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00:18 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Um, wouldn't know, I use it just because I don't like Google.

00:18 DaemonFC; In some small manner, I suppose that the sanctions benefit you in minor positive ways.

00:19 DaemonFC; It gets rid of the colonization by foreign companies.

00:19 DaemonFC; With them out of the way, I mean, your domestic industries will have more room to operate I guess.

00:19 DaemonFC; It's not like Russia would collapse because Starbucks and McDonalds pulled out.

00:19 DaemonFC; You can make a hamburger and some coffee without them, if you can still buy those I suppose.

00:20 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Russia will default in a month.

00:20 DaemonFC; Does that mean much of anything for you?

00:20 DaemonFC; Russia didn't have a lot of outstanding debts.

00:20 XRevan86; The question is whether that's soon enough or not.

00:21 DaemonFC; We're still talking default even though it's to be paid out in Rubles if the value is over $10,000 a month to a creditor?

00:21 DaemonFC; The Russian government will probably end up either refusing to pay or hyperinflating the Ruble to pay.

00:21 DaemonFC; If they choose #2, hold onto your ankles, Comrade.

00:22 DaemonFC; It'll make the sanctions look like the practice choir.

00:22 XRevan86; DaemonFC: It's the US that loans in its own currency.

00:22 DaemonFC; Yeah, Mandy and I buy some government debt here.

00:22 TR News; Aren't there more than enough decent editors that aren't controlled by Microsoft to promote proprietary software? https://idroot.us/install-atom-text-editor-almalinux-8/

00:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: idroot.us | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://idroot.us/install-atom-text-editor-almalinux-8/

00:22 TR Bot; How To Install Atom Text Editor on AlmaLinux 8 - idroot

00:22 DaemonFC; Usually with whatever our tax refund is.

00:23 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show how to install Archman 2022.03." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zhITYIE73SE

00:23 TR Bot; How to install Archman 2022.03 - Invidious

00:23 DaemonFC; It sets it aside and protects it from getting absolutely hammered by inflation.

00:23 DaemonFC; Although it still loses value because the government understates inflation, 7.12% is preferable to 0.5% in a savings account.

00:26 TR News; "Tow-Boot is a relatively new project for bringing some consistency to the way we boot Linux on ARM. This is both aimed at the Linux single board computers but also the new wave of Linux phones." https://tuxphones.com/booting-arm-linux-the-standard-way/

00:26 TR Bot; Booting ARM Linux the standard way

00:34 TR News; *Cycling Art, Energy, and Locomotion* (1889) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/cycling-art/

00:34 TR Bot; *Cycling Art, Energy, and Locomotion* (1889) The Public Domain Review

00:34 TR News; Love and Longing in the Seaweed Album The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/essay/love-and-longing-in-the-seaweed-album/

00:34 TR Bot; Love and Longing in the Seaweed Album The Public Domain Review

00:35 TR News; Gulag will never admits it's dead https://www.tomsguide.com/uk/news/stadia-games-developer-summit

00:35 TR Bot; Stadia's not dead and this one idea could shape the future of gaming | Tom's Guide

00:35 TR News; There's already over 1,200 titles either Verified or Playable for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/theres-already-over-1214-titles-either-verified-or-playable-for-steam-deck/

00:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/theres-already-over-1214-titles-either-verified-or-playable-for-steam-deck/

00:35 TR Bot; already over 1,200 titles either Verified or Playable for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux

00:36 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162351

00:37 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

00:39 TR News; "There are several online services and places where you can select colors either RGB or Hexadecimal, or even using GIMP or any other similar software. However, having this service in terminal is really notorious! rgb-tui is a color picker written in C++ that is easy to install and use." https://terminalroot.com/select-colors-in-terminal-with-rgb-tui/

00:39 TR Bot; Select Colors in Terminal with RGB-TUI

00:39 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/10/t-mobile-google-play-problems-part-3/

00:39 TR Bot; T-Mobile Google Play problems: Part 3 BaronHK's Rants

00:40 DaemonFC; schestowitz, ^

00:40 TR News; Not a great idea: putting OpenGL INSIDE the browser Mozilla has pushed out-of-band software updates to its Firefox web browser to contain two high-impact security vulnerabilities, both of which it says

00:40 TR News; Not a great idea: putting OpenGL INSIDE the browser https://thehackernews.com/2022/03/2-new-mozilla-firefox-0-day-bugs-under.html

00:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thehackernews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thehackernews.com/2022/03/2-new-mozilla-firefox-0-day-bugs-under.html

00:40 TR Bot; 2 New Mozilla Firefox 0-Day Bugs Under Active Attack Patch Your Browser ASAP!

00:41 DaemonFC; "By using NordVPN, it forces it to tunnel over the internet instead of internally at T-Mobile, through NordVPN's server, and reach the Google Play store over the Internet, through NordVPN."

00:41 TR News; Ymuse - A Cantata Alternative MPD Client for Ubuntu / Fedora Linux | UbuntuHandbook https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/03/ymuse-cantata-alternative-linux/

00:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ubuntuhandbook.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/03/ymuse-cantata-alternative-linux/

00:41 TR Bot; Ymuse A Cantata Alternative MPD Client for Ubuntu / Fedora Linux | UbuntuHandbook

00:42 TR News; PureBoot 101 | First Boot, First Update, and Detecting Software Tampering https://puri.sm/posts/pureboot-101-first-boot-first-update-and-detecting-software-tampering/

00:42 TR Bot; PureBoot 101 | First Boot, First Update, and Detecting Software Tampering Purism

00:44 DaemonFC; Okay, they must have fixed something.

00:44 DaemonFC; Right after I got off the phone, my Google Play works again,

00:44 DaemonFC; Well, it wasn't wasted. He got me a senior citizen discount that cuts $37 a month off my bill.

00:45 TR News; Defective "modern" chips https://lwn.net/Articles/887326/

00:45 TR Bot; Spectre variant: branch history injection [LWN.net]

00:45 TR News; Introducing Blender 3.1. Create anything, faster. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162339#comment-33011

00:45 TR Bot; Blender 3.1 Released with Lots of Performance Improvements, Other Changes | Tux Machines

00:46 TR News; "If youve been worried about whether youd be able to play Apex Legends on your Steam Deck, you no longer need to worry, as the game has officially been verified to work on Valves Linux-based handheld gaming PC." https://www.howtogeek.com/790667/apex-legends-is-coming-to-linux-thanks-to-the-steam-deck/

00:46 TR Bot; Apex Legends Is Coming to Linux Thanks to the Steam Deck

00:47 TR News; Fluorescent Multilayer Disc History: Innovation You Could See Through https://tedium.co/2022/03/09/fluorescent-optical-disc-vaporware-history "We dont talk enough about vaporware over here, so lets discuss two attempts to make optical discs fluorescent both of which went absolutely nowhere."

00:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/03/09/fluorescent-optical-disc-vaporware-history

00:47 TR Bot; Fluorescent Multilayer Disc History: Innovation You Could See Through

00:51 TR News; Should Algorithms Be Regulated? Part 2: Cataloging the Harms of Algorithmic Decision Making - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/should-algorithms-be-regulated-part-2-cataloging-the-harms-of-algorithmic-decision-making/ At least they say algorithms, not "HEY HI"!

00:51 TR Bot; Should Algorithms Be Regulated? Part 2: Cataloging the Harms of Algorithmic Decision Making - Public Knowledge

00:52 TR News; The EPO is making the services worse (whilst increasing the fees); to compensate for the removal of traditional processes that don't require a computer or electric sockets the EPO resorts to Public Relations and doublespeak http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/faking-green/

00:52 TR Bot; The Latest EPO Greenwashing Spin is Truly a Hoot | Techrights

00:52 TR News; Charlatans with channels in GulagTube (YouTube) are selling their audiences and discarding their principles in the process; the net effect is misinformation, usually with no disclosure added anywhere inside videos or near videos http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/influencers-ruin-the-www/

00:52 TR Bot; Influencers Gaming the Web of Videos (GulagTube) | Techrights

00:53 TR News; The benefits of change, from an amateur's objective perspective. | Saif [blogs.perl.org] http://blogs.perl.org/users/saif/2022/03/the-benefits-of-change-from-an-amateurs-objective-perspective.html

00:53 TR Bot; benefits of change, from an amateur's objective perspective. | Saif [blogs.perl.org]

00:54 TR News; Creating a Modern Website with Ghost | Linux Journal https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/creating-modern-website-ghost

00:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxjournal.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/creating-modern-website-ghost

00:54 TR Bot; Creating a Modern Website with Ghost | Linux Journal

00:54 TR News; Coreboot, PureBoot, and Tow-Boot Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162352

00:54 TR Bot; Coreboot, PureBoot, and Tow-Boot | Tux Machines

00:55 TR News; Firefox Add-on Reviews: The pandemic changed everything even the way we use browser extensions https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/the-pandemic-changed-everything-even-the-way-we-use-browser-extensions/

00:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/the-pandemic-changed-everything-even-the-way-we-use-browser-extensions/

00:55 TR Bot; The pandemic changed everything even the way we use browser extensions - Firefox Add-ons Blog

00:58 TR News; FLOSS Weekly 671: WordPress Evolutions - Matt Mullenweg, WordPress https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/671

00:58 TR Bot; WordPress Evolutions

1 AM, March 10

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01:01 TR News; Mozilla proudly spying on Firefox users, then looking for ways to justify that https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2022/03/09/mozilla-opens-access-to-dataset-on-network-outages/

01:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2022/03/09/mozilla-opens-access-to-dataset-on-network-outages/

01:01 TR Bot; Documenting outages to seek transparency and accountability Data@Mozilla

01:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Many of the outages come courtest of their partners at Cloudflare and Microsoft.

01:02 DaemonFC; *courtesy

01:03 TR News; Secure [sic] is not about security but about control over computer users https://mivehind.net/2022/03/09/secure-boot-statements/

01:03 TR Bot; Secure Boot Statements

01:03 DaemonFC; If things were routed among many smaller service providers like they were 20 years ago, there wouldn't be any of this thousand websites collapse at once garbage.

01:06 TR News; Spreading falsehoods for the anti-Linux media operatives http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162251#comment-33012 see http://techrights.org/2022/03/08/a-media-of-masturbating-monkeys/

01:06 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

01:06 TR Bot; This is the Medias Equivalent of What Linus Torvalds Called Masturbating Monkeys | Techrights

01:07 DaemonFC; The UK is threatening their soldiers who went AWOL and joined Ukraine's military to help them fight off the Russians.

01:08 TR News; IBM is still calling products after racist Watson https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/ibm-previews-developer-technology-sandbox-to-help-developers-explore-new-technologies/

01:08 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ibm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/ibm-previews-developer-technology-sandbox-to-help-developers-explore-new-technologies/

01:08 TR Bot; Use our browser-based, no-code/low-code developer sandbox to try new technologies IBM Developer

01:08 DaemonFC; Well, if they succeed, then they can get citizenship in Ukraine and blow Bogus Johnson's popsicle stand. Then they never worry about returning to face court martial.

01:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz, ^

01:08 TR News; Red Hat Satellite 6.10.3 has been released https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-satellite-6103-has-been-released

01:08 TR Bot; Red Hat Satellite 6.10.3 has been released

01:08 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: off topic

01:09 DaemonFC; Under Ukraine's current system of law and government, it's freer than the UK will be with Bogus Johnson's Policing Bill.

01:09 DaemonFC; Provided it survives the Russian attack.

01:10 DaemonFC; Bogus Johnson's Policing Bill should be renamed the "Why the fuck bother leaving Hong Kong Act".

01:10 TR News; "They said they are aware of it and it should eventually go away, but to keep using the VPN app to get Google Play to work until its fixed." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/10/t-mobile-google-play-problems-part-3/

01:10 TR Bot; T-Mobile Google Play problems: Part 3 BaronHK's Rants

01:10 DaemonFC; Because then at least it would inform people in both countries of what it really is.

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01:11 TR News; New guide: surveillance technology investors face significant risks if human rights are ignored - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/surveillance-tech-investor-guide/

01:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/surveillance-tech-investor-guide/

01:11 TR Bot; New guide: surveillance technology investors face significant risks if human rights are ignored - Access Now

01:11 TR News; Gulag hints at Windows games running on Stadia - The Verge https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/9/22969081/google-windows-games-stadia-emulator

01:11 TR Bot; Google hints at Windows games running on Stadia - The Verge

01:12 TR News; MicroLarabel spamming for his sponsors again https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=steam-deck-cpu&num=1 see http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/

01:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=steam-deck-cpu&num=1

01:12 TR Bot; Deck AMD APU Performance For Non-Gaming CPU Workloads Review - Phoronix

01:12 TR Bot; When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights

01:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, I can't imagine how it would be economically feasible for Google to pay for all those Windows licenses on their end.

01:13 DaemonFC; They'll probably rig something up to run it on a Proton-patched Wine on their end, on GNU/Linux, and pipe it to the client side.

01:13 DaemonFC; I wonder if this is when Microsoft sues regarding Wine using the Oracle case for precedent.

01:14 DaemonFC; To see that much Windows license loss all at once when people realize they no longer need it for anything....

01:14 TR News; Games: Stadia, Steam, and Perl/Pong Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162353

01:14 TR Bot; Games: Stadia, Steam, and Perl/Pong | Tux Machines

01:14 schestowitz-TR2; oralce lost the case

01:14 DaemonFC; That's how Microsoft deals with everything. Filing lawsuits. Works well for malware because they can't secure Windows and other people implementing their specifications so that their customers can break free of their software.

01:14 schestowitz-TR2; at SCOTUS

01:15 DaemonFC; I thought it was actually a win. IIRC, they ruled that Google was infringing, but then Google switched to OpenJDK for Android so it wouldn't happen again.

01:15 DaemonFC; The whole thing was as stupid as it was preventable.

01:16 DaemonFC; Apache Harmony was the biggest piece of shit ever and it added lots of bugs, and huge missing JAVA features, and poor performance, to Android.

01:16 DaemonFC; Because Google figured they could escape the GPL this way.

01:17 DaemonFC; It was abandoned upstream and the JAVA implementation in Android essentially stagnated at something more than version 5, and a lot less than version 6.

01:18 DaemonFC; Google had no plans to fix it because it was essentially working just "okay" and that's all they needed. They ship Android with lots of bugs all over the place anyway, and then don't fix them for years, even if it's trivial (like the three line patch to make .opus work without a .ogg extension).

01:18 DaemonFC; Then they have all of these broken updates every month which are comparable to Windows.

01:18 DaemonFC; You eventually can't refuse them, so you just get to update and see what it destroys.

01:18 DaemonFC; :)

01:19 DaemonFC; But Samsung was much worse.

01:19 DaemonFC; Chrome is a big piece of shit on Android.

01:19 TR News; Apache Software Foundation releases NetBeans 13 - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/netbeans_13_arrives/

01:19 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/netbeans_13_arrives/

01:19 DaemonFC; No ad blocker, and it never will have one.

01:19 TR Bot; Apache Software Foundation releases NetBeans 13 The Register

01:20 DaemonFC; So there's hardly a reason to use Chrome on the desktop. It only syncs with Chrome on mobile, where there's no ad blocker, and then ads take up half your phone's screen.

01:20 TR News; "StormOS is a beginner friendly distribution based on Arch Linux, which offers an easy installation process, a full suite of software, and a few custom shell scripts to help new Arch users. StormOS offers two desktop editions: Xfce and KDE. Today, I'm taking a first look at their Xfce edition." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_15nViWuMLo

01:20 TR Bot; StormOS Is A Beginner Friendly Arch Based Distro - Invidious

01:20 DaemonFC; I can hardly stand to use Chrome long enough to get to f-droid and download that so I can download Fennec F-Droid.

01:20 DaemonFC; That's literally all I ever use Chrome for on a new phone.

01:21 DaemonFC; Sometimes four years later, when I get a new phone, the F-Droid page is still open in Chrome because it's all I ever opened it for.

01:21 DaemonFC; It's like Internet Explorer. You opened it, went to Firefox, and then closed Internet Explorer forever.

01:22 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/03/09/updated-conti-ransomware see http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/

01:22 TR Bot; Updated: Conti Ransomware | CISA

01:22 TR Bot; Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights

01:22 DaemonFC; Does bear shit in Russian woods?

01:22 DaemonFC; :)

01:23 DaemonFC; "I love America. You have such wonderful things here, like warning shots!" -Yakov Smirnoff

01:23 DaemonFC; The Russians show nothing has changed whatsoever since they were the Red Army and invading and terrorizing people.

01:24 DaemonFC; They're just as brutal to Ukraine today as they ever were to anyone, raping, murdering, killing children and laughing about it.

01:24 TR News; Walmart closes the stores at night because the prices go up so fast and they dont want you to see them do it. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/09/walmart-closes-the-stores-at-night-because-the-prices-go-up-so-fast-and-they-dont-want-you-to-see-them-do-it/

01:24 TR Bot; Walmart closes the stores at night because the prices go up so fast and they dont want you to see them do it. BaronHK's Rants

01:27 TR News; mesa 22.0.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162350#comment-33013

01:27 TR Bot; Mesa 22.0 Officially Released, Brings Vulkan 1.3 and Improves Support for Many Games | Tux Machines

01:27 TR News; Raspberry Pi And The Story Of SD Card Corruption Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162354

01:27 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi And The Story Of SD Card Corruption | Tux Machines

01:27 TR News; ArcoLinux 22.03.08 is out https://arcolinux.info/ https://arcolinux.com/

01:27 TR Bot; ArcoLinux | ArcoLinux

01:27 TR Bot; ArcoLinux

01:28 TR News; Building containers by hand using namespaces: The net namespace | Enable Sysadmin <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/net-namespaces"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>

01:28 TR Bot; Building containers by hand using namespaces: The net namespace | Enable Sysadmin

01:30 psydroid8; Microsoft is getting attacked from all sides and so are Intel and AMD

01:32 TR News; How to hype up local privilege escalation How to hype up local privilege scalation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162251#comment-33014 see http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/

01:32 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

01:32 DaemonFC; BaronHK

01:32 DaemonFC; Rookie

01:32 DaemonFC; 3 replies

01:32 DaemonFC; just now

01:32 DaemonFC; So, I got routed around to a network department guy who admitted its a known problem.

01:32 DaemonFC; He says Pixel phones seem to be hit the worst based on what theyre seeing.

01:32 DaemonFC; He confirmed that it is due to the shutdown of the Sprint network. He says it should self-resolve within days and to just use NordVPN to make the Play Store work if I have trouble with it. Right after I got off the phone, my Play Store started working again without the VPN on. Odd.

01:32 TR News; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162355

01:32 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines

01:32 DaemonFC; Apparently, T-Mobile has a VPN-like routing system internally which nabs your Play Store requests and acts as a proxy instead of sending them along over the Internet like normal traffic. So when you connect to the VPN, obviously it has no idea what the Play Store traffic is because its encrypted and in the tunnel with everything else, and then it goes straight to Google like any other Internet traffic the VPN routes.

01:32 DaemonFC; As to why there is a MITM attack going on with the Play Store courtesy of your carrier, I cant think of any _legitimate_ reasons for doing this. More of that Proprietary Software is Nasty rule I suppose. The government probably wants them to monitor everything youre doing and routing certain traffic like this makes it easier to log in a central location in case they get served with a warrant or National Security Letter.

01:32 DaemonFC; Its possible other stuff is configured this way and for that purpose and youd never know. All the more reason to get a VPN and make it a good one.

01:33 TR News; "Since 2020, Walmart has raised the price of Coca Cola by 35%." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/09/walmart-closes-the-stores-at-night-because-the-prices-go-up-so-fast-and-they-dont-want-you-to-see-them-do-it/

01:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, Coke says profits are up 10% over last year.

01:34 TR News; More complexity in the stack = more holes https://istio.io/latest/news/security/istio-security-2022-004/

01:34 TR Bot; Istio / ISTIO-SECURITY-2022-004

01:34 AdmFubar; but how do you trust the VPN?

01:34 DaemonFC; So very little of these price hikes is cost-push inflation.

01:38 TR News; Absolute rubbish. A lot of the time you get a job owing to connections, not a buzzwords-filled piece of paper. https://www.fosslife.org/create-strong-cv-or-resume-10-tips

01:38 TR Bot; Create a Strong CV or Resum: 10 Tips

01:39 TR News; PDF is till junk. https://fortintam.com/blog/please-adapt-pdfjs-xfa-forms-for-linux-pdf-readers/

01:39 TR Bot; Please adapt Mozillas code so that PDF readers on Linux can handle XFA forms! The Open Sourcerer

01:40 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162356

01:40 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

01:40 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162357

01:40 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

01:42 TR News; Rust sucks so badly that even meeting minutes are still being outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software prison. This project censors Microsoft critics, doesn't get freedom. Rejecting reality. No wonder many core developers have quit. https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/03/09/lang-team-mar-update.html

01:42 TR Bot; Lang team March update | Inside Rust Blog

01:43 schestowitz-TR2; AdmFubar: re DaemonFC: he trusts them

01:43 schestowitz-TR2; Panama you know

01:43 schestowitz-TR2; tax evaders' haven

01:43 schestowitz-TR2; very very trustworthy people

01:45 AdmFubar; VPN's can offer the best in man-in-the-middle attacks.

01:45 AdmFubar; and now this

01:45 AdmFubar; https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/07/nebraska-latest-state-looking-to-roll-back-dumb-restrictions-on-community-broadband/

01:45 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/07/nebraska-latest-state-looking-to-roll-back-dumb-restrictions-on-community-broadband/

01:45 TR Bot; Latest State Looking To Roll Back Dumb Restrictions On Community Broadband | Techdirt

01:52 TR News; Web3=cranks, bullshit https://cointelegraph.com/press-releases/gauss-lab-announces-the-launch-of-aurora-filesystem

01:52 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cointelegraph.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cointelegraph.com/press-releases/gauss-lab-announces-the-launch-of-aurora-filesystem

01:52 TR Bot; Gauss Lab announces the launch of Aurora Filesystem

01:53 TR News; LOL. "AuroraFS is an application that is already operational on Ubuntu and Microsoft OS."

01:53 schestowitz-TR2; AdmFubar: ack

01:55 TR News; This is more bullshit. Make your systems secure instead of focusing on geography. :-) https://medevel.com/13-cyber-threats-live-maps/

01:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/13-cyber-threats-live-maps/

01:55 TR Bot; 13 Top Cyber Threats Live Maps

01:55 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, They're probably more trustworthy than Deutsche Telekom.

01:55 DaemonFC; Jack Monkey

01:55 DaemonFC; First activity

01:55 DaemonFC; 1 reply

01:55 DaemonFC; just now

01:55 DaemonFC; I was having the same problem and spent hours on the phone with a 2 different tech support people at T-Mobile. The second guy I spoke to tonight seems to have fixed the issue. He used a program called Grand Central and said he ran through a process that cancelled my location and updated network features. I dont know what that means exactly but it worked. If you talk to T-Mo tech support, ask them to do this same process. Good luck!

01:56 TR News; CNX, stop taking payments to post crap https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/09/ai-thinker-hi-series-wifi-modules-support-harmonyos/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/cnxsoftware-partly-compromised/

01:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/09/ai-thinker-hi-series-wifi-modules-support-harmonyos/

01:56 TR Bot; Ai-Thinker Hi-series WiFi modules support HarmonyOS (Sponsored) - CNX Software

01:56 TR Bot; The C in CNX Software is Not Community | Techrights

01:56 TR News; Mozilla: PDF Code, Spying, Extensions, and Rust Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162358

01:56 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: the at&t problem is resolved

01:56 schestowitz-TR2; cause unknown

01:56 schestowitz-TR2; fix unknown

01:56 schestowitz-TR2; it just... 'got fixed'

01:56 TR Bot; Mozilla: PDF Code, Spying, Extensions, and Rust | Tux Machines

01:57 AdmFubar; https://findanyanswer.com/what-is-grand-central-t-mobile

01:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: findanyanswer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://findanyanswer.com/what-is-grand-central-t-mobile

01:57 TR Bot; What is Grand Central T Mobile?

01:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, I updated my post to include this.

01:57 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.40 k/sec., IPFS upstream 39.88 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.46

01:57 DaemonFC; Edit: Heres a quote from a customer who said he finally found someone who knew how to fix it.

01:57 DaemonFC; I was having the same problem and spent hours on the phone with a 2 different tech support people at T-Mobile. The second guy I spoke to tonight seems to have fixed the issue. He used a program called Grand Central and said he ran through a process that cancelled my location and updated network features. I dont know what that means exactly but it worked. If you talk to T-Mo tech support, ask them to do this same proces

01:57 DaemonFC; s. Good luck!

01:57 DaemonFC; Jack Monkey (T-Mobile Forume)

01:57 TR News; Oh, FFS. Can we quit accepting nonsensical buzzwords like "data science"? They're euphemisms that justify unjust data collection, in effect surveillance or exploitation of spying https://www.fosslife.org/5-key-data-science-skills

01:57 TR Bot; 5 Key Data Science Skills

01:58 schestowitz-TR2; Jack Monkey

01:58 AdmFubar; so call it something else and still have the same problem....

01:59 TR News; Some discouraging anecdotes on how services handle account deletions https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/account-deletions-2021.html

01:59 TR Bot; Some discouraging anecdotes on how services handle account deletions

01:59 schestowitz-TR2; AdmFubar: yes

01:59 schestowitz-TR2; it's one of many

01:59 schestowitz-TR2; they figured out, let's paint it as a science

01:59 schestowitz-TR2; "Big data"

01:59 schestowitz-TR2; "data science"

01:59 schestowitz-TR2; "data analyst"

2 AM, March 10

02:00 schestowitz-TR2; NSA has "data analysts"

02:00 schestowitz-TR2; people who hands your nudes

02:01 schestowitz-TR2; *handle

02:01 TR News; Updated firmware for 5.15 kernel in EasyOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161733#comment-33015

02:01 TR Bot; EasyOS version 3.4.1 released | Tux Machines

02:02 TR News; "Just a quick note, #jwm window manager has been bumped from 2.4.0 to 2.4.1." https://bkhome.org/news/202203/jwm-241-compiled-in-oe.html

02:02 TR Bot; JWM 2.4.1 compiled in OE

02:03 TR News; Ultrasonic Sensor with Arduino: HC-SR04 wiring and setup https://peppe8o.com/ultraosnic-sensor-hc-sr04-interfaced-with-arduino/

02:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: peppe8o.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://peppe8o.com/ultraosnic-sensor-hc-sr04-interfaced-with-arduino/

02:03 TR Bot; Ultrasonic Sensor with Arduino: HC-SR04 wiring and setup

02:04 TR News; SparkFun Raspberry Pi RP2040 & MicroMod boards take mikroBUS Click expansion boards - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/09/sparkfun-raspberry-pi-rp2040-micromod-boards-take-mikrobus-click-expansion-boards/

02:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/09/sparkfun-raspberry-pi-rp2040-micromod-boards-take-mikrobus-click-expansion-boards/

02:04 TR Bot; SparkFun Raspberry Pi RP2040 & MicroMod boards take mikroBUS Click expansion boards - CNX Software

02:04 TR News; Arduino Nicla Vision - A tiny STM32H7 board with 2MP camera, WiFi & Bluetooth LE, sensors - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/09/arduino-nicla-vision-tiny-stm32h7-board-with-2mp-camera-wifi-bluetooth-le-sensors/

02:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/09/arduino-nicla-vision-tiny-stm32h7-board-with-2mp-camera-wifi-bluetooth-le-sensors/

02:04 TR Bot; Arduino Nicla Vision - A tiny STM32H7 board with 2MP camera, WiFi & Bluetooth LE, sensors - CNX Software

02:05 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, I'm not up to speed, but I think that means that the phase inducers are out of alignment with the power couplers on the deflector dish causing a feedback loop in the isolinear processor chips feeding negative tachyon emissions into the warp core and we're going to have a breach if we don't eject it.

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02:07 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR2> NSA has "data analysts"

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02:07 DaemonFC; I was watching something last night with the subtitles on.

02:08 DaemonFC; Someone said "analysis" and it came up "anal cysts".

02:08 DaemonFC; Those sound...bad.

02:09 TR News; "Youll need to be comfortable with data collection" ... or SPYING, surveillance, intrusion https://www.kdnuggets.com/2022/03/5-data-science-projects-learn-5-critical-data-science-skills.html stop euphemising bad things and raising the acceptability of things that ought not be done

02:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: kdnuggets.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.kdnuggets.com/2022/03/5-data-science-projects-learn-5-critical-data-science-skills.html

02:09 TR Bot; Data Science Projects to Learn 5 Critical Data Science Skills - KDnuggets

02:09 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR2> people who handle your nudes

02:09 DaemonFC; Why do they bother?

02:09 schestowitz-TR2; blackmail?

02:09 DaemonFC; Thanks to the right-wing economy, teenagers have to sell nudes and fuck tapes on OnlyFans (and litter reddit with samples) to pay their rent and student loans now.

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02:09 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding: Sparkfun and Arduino Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162359

02:10 DaemonFC; It's not something they do by choice. The economy isn't producing good jobs and this is easier work to get into that pays better than McDonalds.

02:10 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: Sparkfun and Arduino | Tux Machines

02:11 DaemonFC; You'd better believe that it doesn't matter if they "delete" it on Reddit, not only has some pervert stored it somewhere, but so has the NSA.

02:11 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: I was thinking about this earlier today

02:11 schestowitz-TR2; with all those "job reports"

02:11 DaemonFC; And Reddit doesn't verify age.

02:11 schestowitz-TR2; the right question to ask

02:11 schestowitz-TR2; should be carefully worded and crafted

02:11 DaemonFC; So there are probably kids on there that can be charged with felonies for taking pictures of themselves.

02:11 schestowitz-TR2; 1. how many FULL time jobs

02:11 schestowitz-TR2; 2. what salary level compared to living expenses

02:11 DaemonFC; There is no exception to CP laws if you took the pictures of yourself and posted them yourself.

02:12 schestowitz-TR2; 3. how many of those jobs are occupied by citizens?

02:12 schestowitz-TR2; if properly worded you get a clearer picture

02:12 DaemonFC; If I came across some old nudes from 21 years ago and posted them online, of myself, then they could charge me as the offender and with me as the victim.

02:12 schestowitz-TR2; many 10-hours-a-week job

02:12 DaemonFC; How does that work?

02:12 DaemonFC; Because it's a "crime against the state".

02:12 schestowitz-TR2; where the travel expenses with petrol bills mean you can hardly buy food

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02:12 schestowitz-TR2; and some of the better paying jobs going to 'tourists'

02:13 schestowitz-TR2; it's easier to get 'tourists' to work 80 hours a week

02:13 DaemonFC; Stallman pointed this out. It was all over the news for a while that teenagers were being charged with "victimizing themselves".

02:13 schestowitz-TR2; under threat of our sending them bakc abroad

02:13 DaemonFC; And left with felonies and on lists of pedophiles.

02:13 schestowitz-TR2; where they get paid 50 times less

02:13 DaemonFC; Ruined for life.

02:13 DaemonFC; Then the news stopped reporting these, and nothing ever changed.

02:14 TR News; Making RockPro64 a NetBSD Server Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162360

02:14 TR Bot; Making RockPro64 a NetBSD Server | Tux Machines

02:15 schestowitz; DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2020/08/18/rick-jones-beach-fetish/

02:15 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2020/06/20/young-boys-and-the-express-stop-envelope/

02:15 TR Bot; Detectives Found That Bill Gates Engineer Took Photos of Latino Boys at the Beach. His Child Pornography Files Included Similar Material. | Techrights

02:15 TR Bot; Bill and Melinda Gates Employee Took Photos of Young Boys at the Beach | Techrights

02:15 AdmFubar; https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/03/conti-ransomware-group-diaries-part-i-evasion/

02:15 TR Bot; Conti Ransomware Group Diaries, Part I: Evasion Krebs on Security

02:16 schestowitz-TR2; Windows

02:16 schestowitz-TR2; US government rarely names this platform

02:16 schestowitz-TR2; unless it is promotional

02:16 schestowitz-TR2; quite curious, innit?

02:17 psydroid8; the thing that should not be named and that should not exist

02:17 schestowitz-TR2; not in this context anytway

02:18 schestowitz-TR2; by now

02:18 schestowitz-TR2; any security news,

02:18 schestowitz-TR2; if they don't say "LINUX"

02:18 schestowitz-TR2; assume Windows

02:18 schestowitz-TR2; Linux just means "not Windows"

02:18 schestowitz-TR2; anything that's not Microsoft is "LINUX"

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02:18 TR News; Software: ClamAV, Ymuse, and RGB-TUI Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162361

02:18 TR Bot; Software: ClamAV, Ymuse, and RGB-TUI | Tux Machines

02:21 DaemonFC; Or Linux can mean Windows if by Linux you mean WSL malware or anything open source on Windows that enables malware.

02:21 DaemonFC; Then you say "Linux".

02:21 schestowitz-TR2; :D

02:21 DaemonFC; That's how ZDNet works.

02:21 schestowitz-TR2; yes, that happened last year

02:21 psydroid8; and anything that is "LINUX" is not easy to use, so you should stick to Windows

02:21 schestowitz-TR2; ZDNet can go kill themeslves

02:21 schestowitz-TR2; they are already dying

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02:21 DaemonFC; Yes, because ZDNet is to tech what the Russian media is to news.

02:22 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: Windows would be secure... if it weren't for this "LINUX" thing

02:22 DaemonFC; They're back in the Soviet Era again where the lies change every day and they're expected to keep up.

02:22 schestowitz-TR2; zdnet does not publiush much anymore

02:22 schestowitz-TR2; they must have made big cuts

02:22 TR News; https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Apache_NetBeans_Logo.svg/55px-Apache_NetBeans_Logo.svg.png

02:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Apache_NetBeans_Logo.svg/55px-Apache_NetBeans_Logo.svg.png

02:23 psydroid8; why keep it alive at this point?

02:23 TR News; Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: StormOS, FLOSS Weekly, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162362

02:23 TR Bot; Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: StormOS, FLOSS Weekly, and More | Tux Machines

02:23 schestowitz-TR2; psydroid8: sometimes they hope and pray for a rebound

02:23 schestowitz-TR2; if they do not get traffic

02:23 schestowitz-TR2; they do not get shilling money

02:23 psydroid8; that money can be spent on influencers

02:23 schestowitz-TR2; like IBM, Microsoft, LF

02:23 schestowitz-TR2; SJVN is jus y presstituting at this stage

02:23 psydroid8; on social control media

02:24 schestowitz-TR2; psydroid8: they spend on them, too

02:24 schestowitz-TR2; IBM sent PR people my way

02:24 TR News; Apache Software Foundation releases NetBeans 13 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162363

02:24 TR Bot; Apache Software Foundation releases NetBeans 13 | Tux Machines

02:24 schestowitz-TR2; psydroid8: IBM laid off many of these people

02:24 schestowitz-TR2; they're a yoke on any org

02:25 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/08/21/ibm-layoffs-in-marketing/

02:25 TR Bot; Many IBM Layoffs (in Marketing), But the Media Is Not Mentioning Those Layoffs At All | Techrights

02:26 TR News; Corrupt EUIPO with its courts run by a corrupt official https://www.worldipreview.com/news/euipo-loses-dispute-over-genuine-use-at-eu-court-22152 see http://techrights.org/2021/09/11/jobs-as-bribes/

02:26 TR Bot; EUIPO loses dispute over genuine use at EU court

02:26 TR Bot; EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part XX Top Jobs at EUIPO for Compliant Baltic Officials? | Techrights

02:27 psydroid8; this latest Apple hardware is quite something

02:27 psydroid8; and with GNU/Linux on ARM being at least as mature as macOS, Microsoft, Intel and AMD are going to be in for a world of hurt

02:27 schestowitz-TR2; "Apple silicon"

02:27 schestowitz-TR2; "Are those real, Timmy?"

02:28 psydroid8; the point has come that for certain tasks Apple hardware is much cheaper than the Wintel alternative

02:28 psydroid8; it's not something exclusive to Apple

02:28 schestowitz-TR2; why would you need a 20core PC, LOL...?

02:28 schestowitz-TR2; I mean, OK...

02:28 schestowitz-TR2; let's say I edit and process video

02:28 schestowitz-TR2; do I NEED 20 core all the time?

02:28 schestowitz-TR2; evem if CPU-scaled or turned off?

02:29 MinceR; to have 20 tabs of "modern" websites open

02:29 schestowitz-TR2; waste of capacity

02:29 psydroid8; but it shows how much Intel and AMD went in the wrong direction

02:29 schestowitz-TR2; you will never use all of it

02:29 MinceR; or 19 tabs and one systemd

02:29 schestowitz-TR2; systemd does not take up much cpu

02:29 DaemonFC; Right. schestowitz-TR2 I was explaining to someone why Apple seemed to have better products with M1 and M2 than with Intel.

02:29 schestowitz-TR2; to me, systemd is bad for its complexity

02:29 psydroid8; it shows the failure of the x86 PC model

02:29 MinceR; except when it does

02:30 DaemonFC; I pointed out a lot of power management problems are stuff Intel kicked out the door even though it didn't work and/or co-developed with Microsoft, and so it was a mess full of bugs and security holes dating back into the 90s.

02:30 schestowitz-TR2; m2+ is like heating up 2 loaves of bread each time you want to just eat tw slices of bread

02:30 DaemonFC; So when Apple switched to ARM, they got away from the broken Intel-Microsoft mess, sure.

02:30 schestowitz-TR2; *loaves

02:31 schestowitz-TR2; oe heating up a 6000 litre pool

02:31 schestowitz-TR2; just to have a single person swim in it for 30 mins

02:31 MinceR; btw there's an ARM-based ThinkPad already

02:31 MinceR; and it isn't 1.3 kg

02:32 psydroid8; I believe such hardware should be shared

02:32 psydroid8; I do the video editing, get away from the system and let someone else do their tasks

02:34 psydroid8; there is no point owning expensive hardware that isn't doing something useful most of the time

02:35 TR News; Links 10/3/2022: Blender 3.1 and Mesa 22.0.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/blender-3-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/09/blender-3-1/

02:35 TR Bot; Links 10/3/2022: Blender 3.1 and Mesa 22.0.0 | Techrights

02:35 schestowitz-TR2; exactly

02:35 schestowitz-TR2; and using up far too much power

02:35 schestowitz-TR2; for something like using a taxt edtor

02:35 schestowitz-TR2; *text

02:35 schestowitz-TR2; I use kate on 20 cores

02:35 schestowitz-TR2; one core for each... I don't know...

02:37 psydroid8; this is why I don't even use desktops at the moment

02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-090322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-090322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-090322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-090322.txt

02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, March 09, 2022

02:37 TR News; The w3 validator has been EXTREEEEEMELY unreliable for weeks. I've used it for over 15 years! Will they shut the whole thing down? It's having such many technical issues, on and off so to speak. w3c has been far too busy shilling for Pentagon contractors, e.g. their DRM agenda.

02:38 psydroid8; and if I built or bought one it would have to be for a specific purpose that can't be handled on a regular laptop

02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-090322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-090322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-090322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-090322.txt

02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, March 09, 2022

02:38 TR News; Techrights will be working on Planet Gemini overnight. Prototype: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/

02:39 DaemonFC; user326

02:39 DaemonFC; Rookie

02:39 DaemonFC; 5 replies

02:39 DaemonFC; Thank you for sharing this! I want to know why there has been nothing from T Mobile about this?? What's happening now is people are lashing out at Google for this, thinking it's a Google issue!! And, of course, Google CS agents are perplexed as to what these customers are talking about. What a mess! Thank you, stupid T Mobile! As of today, March 9, the problem still persists. I am in the Chicago area.

02:39 DaemonFC; BaronHK

02:39 DaemonFC; Rookie

02:39 DaemonFC; 4 replies

02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-090322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-090322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-090322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-090322.txt

02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, March 09, 2022

02:39 DaemonFC; Because if its what I think it is, then they accidentally told me about something like PRISM that youre not supposed to know about. Its probably there for law enforcement and the NSA so they have another centralized (and decrypted) repository for their spied to go through when they want to pull up your file.

02:39 DaemonFC; Edward Snowden pointed out (before he had to flee the country) that basically every major tech company operates like this.

02:39 DaemonFC; Also, it will get worse if the EARN-IT Act passes. Basically, at this point, Id say dont use T-Mobile unless youre also going to use GNU/Linux and a good VPN and maybe Tor Browser on top of that, at least as far as Home Internet goes.

02:39 DaemonFC; On the Android side I use NordVPN and Fennec-F-Droid (normal browsing) or Tor Browser (from the F-Droid store). I also prefer open source apps in general because theres no spyware libraries. Some Play Store and Apple App Store apps have 20-30 tracker libraries and god knows what else in them.

02:39 DaemonFC; Theyre proprietary, so nobody knows what they actually do when you run them. :)

02:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, ^

02:40 TR News; "We're happy to announce Kiwi TCMS version 11.2." https://kiwitcms.org/blog/kiwi-tcms-team/2022/03/09/kiwi-tcms-112/

02:40 TR Bot; Kiwi TCMS - Kiwi TCMS 11.2

02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-090322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-090322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-090322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-090322.txt

02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, March 09, 2022

02:41 TR News; Fraud Is Flourishing on Zelle. The Banks Say Its Not Their Problem. - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/06/business/payments-fraud-zelle-banks.html ain't dis de murican dream?

02:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/06/business/payments-fraud-zelle-banks.html

02:41 TR Bot; Fraud Is Flourishing on Zelle. The Banks Say Its Not Their Problem. - The New York Times

02:41 TR News; FAA vs. Wireless Carriers: Lessons Learned from the 5G C-Band Launch - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/faa-vs-wireless-carriers-lessons-learned-from-the-5g-c-band-launch/

02:41 TR Bot; FAA vs. Wireless Carriers: Lessons Learned from the 5G C-Band Launch - Public Knowledge

02:42 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-03-09.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-03-09.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)

02:43 TR News; GNU Taler 2022-3: "Central Bank Accounts are Dangerous and Unnecessary" published https://taler.net/en/news/2022-03.html #taler | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/03/10/#latest

02:43 TR Bot; GNU Taler

02:43 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts

02:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, I'm saving those forum threads to the Internet Archive.

02:43 DaemonFC; Just in case.

02:44 TR News; GNU poke: "The Binary Tools Summit 2022 online event was held last weekend, and we had lots of fun. We also learned a lot." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10135

02:44 TR Bot; poke - News: Binary Tools Summit 2022 slides and videos are now available [Savannah]

02:45 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: archive.is

02:46 DaemonFC; I'll put it there too.

02:46 DaemonFC; That's interesting that they have an internal "VPN" that routes some traffic and leaves other traffic alone.

02:47 DaemonFC; Sounds very SIGINT to me, targeting the apps that malfunctioned in the past week. Mostly Gulag and Social Control Media crap.

02:47 TR News; EXACTLY: "So Red Hat, SuSE, and Docker are about to learn what being open source actually means. You'd think they would already know, but apparently not." http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36793/

02:47 TR Bot; What part of open source do they not understand?: Red Hat moves out of Russia

02:49 TR News; PostgreSQL: Call for Papers - PGDay Austria 2022 https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/call-for-papers-pgday-austria-2022-2407/

02:49 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: Call for Papers - PGDay Austria 2022

02:50 TR News; PostgreSQL: SQLreduce: Reduce verbose SQL queries to minimal examples https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/sqlreduce-reduce-verbose-sql-queries-to-minimal-examples-2418/

02:50 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: SQLreduce: Reduce verbose SQL queries to minimal examples

02:50 TR News; "I have decided to try Linux Mint 20.3 as my desktop OS. Although it is unlikely that Linux will completely replace my macOS environment, Ive been pleasantly suprised that Linux and available software have evolved in the recent couple of years" https://www.unixtutorial.org/linux-mint-as-desktop-os/

02:50 Alternative link; Cloudflare: unixtutorial.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unixtutorial.org/linux-mint-as-desktop-os/

02:50 TR Bot; Linux Mint as a Desktop OS

02:51 TR News; QA/Dev Report: February 2022 - LibreOffice QA Blog https://qa.blog.documentfoundation.org/2022/03/09/qa-dev-report-february-2022/

02:51 TR Bot; QA/Dev Report: February 2022 - LibreOffice QA Blog

02:52 TR News; A New Type of Convergence Control Intrinsic? http://nhaehnle.blogspot.com/2022/03/a-new-type-of-convergence-control.html "LLVM does not define how the set of communicating threads in convergent operations"

02:52 TR Bot; Tagebuch eines Interplanetaren Botschafters: A New Type of Convergence Control Intrinsic?

02:53 TR News; "The latest iso images of Sparky rolling 2022.03 have an issue withe DNS configuration via systemd-resolved." systemd in debian... oh, joy! Ask IBM for help. Open support ticket. Become a customer. https://sparkylinux.org/dns-problem-on-sparky-7-still-exist/

02:53 TR Bot; DNS problem on Sparky 7 still exist? SparkyLinux

02:54 TR News; SUSE shilling "clown" and SAP #ProprietarySoftware again https://www.suse.com/c/suse-manager-update-good-news-if-you-are-a-payg-sles-for-sap-customer-in-the-cloud/ see http://techrights.org/2011/09/16/linux-tax-at-sap/

02:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/suse-manager-update-good-news-if-you-are-a-payg-sles-for-sap-customer-in-the-cloud/

02:54 TR Bot; Manager Update : Good news if you are a PAYG SLES for SAP customer in the cloud | SUSE Communities

02:54 TR Bot; SAP Offers Lip Service to Red Hat But Continues to Pay Microsoft for GNU/Linux, Thanks to SUSE | Techrights

02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 45.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.47

3 AM, March 10

03:00 TR News; "Of all the glimpses you get into these characters lives, I found the last the most satisfying. I could see myself putting the soundtrack into rotation in my music player." gemini://gemini.stop.wtf/log/the-longest-road-on-earth.gmi

03:02 TR News; "the number of negative comments and blog posts that seem to base their criticism of Gemini's perceived limitations on the mistaken assumption that Gemini aims to provide a stripped-down web experience." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2021-10-07-Gemini-roots.txt

03:02 AdmFubar; https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/building-new-astro-pi-units-international-space-station/

03:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: raspberrypi.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/building-new-astro-pi-units-international-space-station/

03:02 TR Bot; How did we build the new Astro Pi computers for the International Space Station? - Raspberry Pi

03:14 TR News; "I've had the privilege of being very isolated during the 19-ish months of this pandemic. Between working remotely (and the ongoing office closure after my move) and homeschooling the kids, there was really very little necessity to leave the house and expose ourselves." gemini://sixohthree.com/log/covid-positive.gmi

03:16 TR News; "Don't catch COVID-19. But if you do, may you have a swift recovery, and not spread it to anyone else." gemini://sixohthree.com/log/covid-positive.gmi

03:18 TR News; "finally getting off of reddit ... Fuck it I'm done with reddit once and for all. Since 2014 and before they've made a steady stream of decisions and changes that I ethically and ideologically disagree with." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-11-12.gmi

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03:24 TR News; "The 1995-ish law extending copyright is one of the very few EU laws which has been subjected to rigorous economic analyses; mostly this is impossible because disentangling the effects of complex laws is infeasible, but retrospective copyright extension is a pure rent grant affecting a well-identified aftermarket" gemini://gemini.ucant.org/gemlog/2021-01-01_irony_orwell.gmi

03:26 psydroid8; I never get these statements such as "Linux cannot replace my macOS environment"

03:27 psydroid8; macOS is crap and generally runs all the same things you also have on GNU/Linux

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03:29 psydroid8; it's only things such as Adobe and Microsoft malware that run better there

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03:30 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.

03:31 TR News; "Im still just a spectator from the US. To me it seems that Russia thinks its their job to fix problems they see in Ukraine. Or maybe its paranoia fueling the invasion." gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-03-01-observations-and-musings.gmi

03:32 MinceR; the "problem" being that putler doesn't own the people living in ukraine

03:32 TR News; recordMyDesktop 0.5.1 compiled in OpenEmbedded https://bkhome.org/news/202203/recordmydesktop-051-compiled-in-openembedded.html good program. Got it installed, have used if for over a decade already....

03:32 TR Bot; recordMyDesktop 0.5.1 compiled in OpenEmbedded

03:33 schestowitz-TR2; MinceR: putin loves you

03:33 schestowitz-TR2; why won't you love him back

03:33 schestowitz-TR2; zemlin: ukraine loves putin

03:33 MinceR; like MICROS~1 loves Linux?

03:33 TR News; "Software is immaterial, but it determines the energy consumption of hardware. The ICT sector is reported to contribute as much C02 as the aviation industry, and the numbers continue to rise. Making software efficient is crucial." https://dot.kde.org/2022/03/10/lets-make-energy-efficient-software-reality

03:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: kde.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://dot.kde.org/2022/03/10/lets-make-energy-efficient-software-reality

03:33 TR Bot; Let's Make Energy-Efficient Software A Reality! | KDE.news

03:33 schestowitz-TR2; MinceR: putin is protecting you from kiev

03:34 MinceR; who will protect me from putin?

03:34 schestowitz-TR2; god

03:34 psydroid8; putin is protecting us all from chicken kiev

03:35 schestowitz-TR2; what's the difference between god andf putin?

03:35 schestowitz-TR2; (god does not think he is putin)

03:35 psydroid8; who will protect us from god?

03:36 MinceR; :>

03:36 MinceR; the absence of god

03:36 schestowitz; Kiev should just lie back and enjoy it https://www.salon.com/2022/03/08/michigan-candidate-slammed-for-saying-rape-victims-should-lie-back-and-enjoy-it/

03:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: salon.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.salon.com/2022/03/08/michigan-candidate-slammed-for-saying-rape-victims-should-lie-back-and-enjoy-it/

03:36 TR Bot; GOP candidate slammed for saying rape victims should lie back and enjoy it | Salon.com

03:36 schestowitz; thank you, putin, may I have another one?

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03:38 TR News; A Debian GR on secret votingand more https://lwn.net/Articles/886403/

03:38 TR Bot; Debian GR on secret votingand more [LWN.net]

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03:39 TR News; CPython, C standards, and IEEE 754 [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/886516/

03:39 TR Bot; C standards, and IEEE 754 [LWN.net]

03:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/10/f-droid-spotlight-airguard-see-devices-that-track-you-like-airtags/

03:39 TR Bot; F-Droid Spotlight: AirGuard (See devices that track you, like AirTags.) BaronHK's Rants

03:40 DaemonFC; <MinceR> who will protect me from putin?

03:40 DaemonFC; The UberPutin, of course.

03:40 MinceR; lol

03:41 schestowitz-TR2; cheetoputin

03:41 DaemonFC; Super Powers: Judo (honorary titles revoked) and riding a horse with no shirt on.

03:41 IPFS; QmenaQjMKay4WtcW1q8F5f8dn422GaePUyNj9EwpC1Qt8K

03:41 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.

03:41 DaemonFC; Weaknesses: COVID-19

03:41 schestowitz-TR2; covid is over :-)

03:41 schestowitz-TR2; see the numbers

03:42 DaemonFC; Of course it is, dear Comrade.

03:42 schestowitz; http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/

03:42 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com

03:42 DaemonFC; Putin defeated COVID with bear and Sputnik, no?

03:42 TR News; F-Droid Spotlight: AirGuard (See devices that track you, like AirTags.) - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/10/f-droid-spotlight-airguard-see-devices-that-track-you-like-airtags/ Orwell had a name for these...

03:43 AdmFubar; he also defeated moose and squirrel....

03:43 TR News; "Im coming out of a stressful week, thanks in no small part to my catching of that virus thats been going around. I havent been able to leave home until today not only because of my quarantine period but also because this thing just sucks. Aches, cough, big fatigue, loss of taste and smell." gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2021-11-04-post-covid.gmi

03:43 TR News; LibreELEC (Matrix) 10.0.2 - LibreELEC Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162364

03:43 TR Bot; LibreELEC (Matrix) 10.0.2 - LibreELEC | Tux Machines

03:44 TR News; LWN Articles on Kernel Developments Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162365

03:44 TR Bot; LWN Articles on Kernel Developments | Tux Machines

03:44 DaemonFC; Boris and Natasha were obviously incompetent. Comrade Pootie Poot would have just used Novachok on moose and squirrel and then thrown them in a dungeon somewhere.

03:45 TR News; Migration to Sway gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-02-21-migration-to-sway.gmi "so Ive been using a tiling kwin script called Bismuth to bring a little bit of that workflow to KDE." #gnu #linux

03:46 DaemonFC; "(CNN)Russia's Ministry of Defense has confirmed that Russian military conscripts have been involved in the invasion of Ukraine and that some were taken prisoner by Ukrainian forces, just a day after President Vladimir Putin insisted conscripts were not part of the assault."

03:46 DaemonFC; Well, yesterday there weren't conscripts and today there are. It's amazing how he got them into the field that fast. A true genius, that man.

03:47 MinceR; lol

03:47 DaemonFC; "A day earlier, in an International Women's Day address, Putin had reassured soldiers' mothers and wives that Russian conscripts are not taking part in his invasion of Ukraine, which he has referred to as a "special military operation."

03:47 DaemonFC; "I understand how you're worrying for your beloved ones ... I emphasize that conscript soldiers are not participating in hostilities and will not participate in them," Putin said, reported Reuters. "And there will be no additional call-up of reservists.""

03:47 TR News; "I'm off twitter other than a few people I follow via my BirdsiteLIVE instance, and I've never even been on any of the other cancerous social media sites." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-11-12.gmi

03:47 MinceR; maybe they were conscripted after they were taken prisoner

03:47 DaemonFC; The reading I'm getting on this is that Putin really is aggravated. He desperately wants to get out of this without looking like a fool.

03:48 MinceR; too bad, there's no way to do that

03:48 DaemonFC; The only reason they're still at it is because if he recalls them and gets nothing, that's what he'll be.

03:48 MinceR; though there are a lot of idiots on this planet who will never see putler for the fool he is

03:48 DaemonFC; It's called "throwing good money after bad".

03:49 DaemonFC; This operation went tits up almost immediately but now they're at the "stay the course" point, which is how Bush put it when it was obvious already that we'd lost in Afghanistan and Iraq.

03:49 TR News; "As I've kept using it I've continued to find cool little ways to improve my setup, but I've also uncovered a few pain points for Wayland." gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-03-07-sway-log-pt-2.gmi

03:49 DaemonFC; At this point, you "can't leave on the enemy's terms".

03:49 DaemonFC; Nor can you "discuss what you'll do, because the enemy is listening".

03:49 DaemonFC; And then you're just kind of bogged down for years before you leave.

03:50 DaemonFC; It happened to every empire eventually. Russia's not even an empire.

03:50 MinceR; it kind of is

03:50 DaemonFC; They're a badly broken state with hardly even an economy that just happens to have a lot of land.

03:50 MinceR; they apparently own belarus and hungary

03:50 MinceR; each with its own minidictator

03:51 DaemonFC; Lukashenko will get egg on his face when he sends his guys in and many defect to Ukraine.

03:51 MinceR; that's not sufficient

03:51 MinceR; it didn't work on monkey boy either

03:57 DaemonFC; Hungary is kind of odd.

03:58 DaemonFC; I don't know that they want out of NATO or the EU.

03:58 DaemonFC; AFAIK they're trying to join the Eurozone as well.

03:58 MinceR; afaik most people here want to stay in both

03:58 MinceR; the majority also wants to get rid of orban

03:58 MinceR; but we don't have free or fair elections since 2010

03:58 DaemonFC; The whole point of NATO is that if Putin attacks you there's consequences.

03:59 MinceR; yeah

03:59 DaemonFC; I wonder if Orban would be skinned alive if he welcomed Putin in. Might want to, but....

4 AM, March 10

04:00 DaemonFC; It sounds like Hungary is sort of like a US state where one party had a really good election year one year and now you'll never get rid of them again because they rewrote all of the laws.

04:00 MinceR; unlikely

04:00 TR News; [Meme] Standing Together for Peace in Europe | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/epo-wrongdoing/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/09/epo-wrongdoing/

04:00 DaemonFC; Who can vote, where the statehouse districts are, that sort of thing.

04:00 TR Bot; [Meme] Standing Together for Peace in Europe | Techrights

04:00 MinceR; hungarians seem to tolerate everything

04:01 DaemonFC; The Republicans oddly played redistricting pretty safe this cycle.

04:02 DaemonFC; Texas in particular probably could have drawn more safe Republican districts, but actually the Republicans didn't take their shot. They just shored up the ones that were already in the House, in fact, they gave the Democrats 4 of the previous highly competitive districts and one of the new ones too.

04:02 DaemonFC; Which is really kind of stupid.

04:02 TR News; 109,725 more COVID-19 infections in the UK today, despite the government redefining everything to make the numbers seem smaller https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ UK having another COVID SURGE: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/

04:02 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ )

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04:03 DaemonFC; The aggressive gerrymanders this cycle were places where Democrats complained about it being unconstitutional and then did it as soon as they could.

04:03 DaemonFC; Illinois and New York especially.

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04:03 DaemonFC; In Illinois, Governor Pritzker said he wanted to ban gerrymandering completely and kick it out to an independent commission with rules against partisan gerrymandering.

04:04 DaemonFC; Then he signed the most gerrymandered districts in the nation's history the second they hit his desk.

04:04 psydroid8; Hungarians need more of that Vladitude

04:04 DaemonFC; His party unexpectedly picked up a lot of seats in his first midterm.

04:05 psydroid8; Vlad Tepes, not Vlad Putin

04:05 DaemonFC; Then once they COULD do it, he "evolved" his position away from making it neutral because that's the best he could hope for, to an extreme Democrat gerrymander for the next decade.

04:05 DaemonFC; Up in Wisconsin, Governor Evers played a weak hand as well as he could.

04:05 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, March 09, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext

04:05 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives

04:05 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing

04:05 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index

04:06 DaemonFC; He vetoed an extreme Republican gerrymander and that kicked it to the state Supreme Court, then once it was there, he submitted a "least change" proposal that made it slightly less Republican-leaning than it is now, and it was approved.

04:07 DaemonFC; MinceR, One of the districts looks like a hand giving you the middle finger.

04:07 DaemonFC; That was interesting.

04:07 MinceR; :)

04:07 DaemonFC; I wonder if that was a message to House Speaker Robyn Voss

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04:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz, They have to get the economy going again.

04:09 DaemonFC; How will we beat those savage Ruskis if we don't get the economy going again?

04:09 DaemonFC; You know, and kill a commie for mommy, and all that.

04:09 DaemonFC; Sorry activelow.

04:10 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/tafcyw/oc_an_increased_presence_in_latin_america_has/

04:10 TR Bot; - Dive into anything

04:10 DaemonFC; Mexico probably deduced that we can't do much to punish them because of NAFTA.

04:11 DaemonFC; MinceR, https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/tad80c/whos_laughing_now/

04:11 TR Bot; - Dive into anything

04:11 schestowitz-TR2; post coming...

04:12 DaemonFC; This my neighbor. He is pain in my assholes!

04:12 DaemonFC; B-)

04:13 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/shittyfoodporn/comments/ta98t3/rate_my_schools_baked_potato_lunch/

04:13 TR Bot; - Dive into anything

04:13 DaemonFC; BaronHK

04:13 DaemonFC;

04:13 DaemonFC; just now

04:13 DaemonFC; Looks like they got a little carried away with the money shot.

04:14 DaemonFC; MinceR, This is why privatization is better.

04:14 DaemonFC; You give Wendy's $1.99 and they can do better than this fucked up "Give up on life potato.".

04:15 DaemonFC; They'll even put chili on it. Sure it's yesterday's overcooked hamburger, but it's meat.

04:15 DaemonFC; Where else do you get that in this economy?

04:15 DaemonFC; Fish, seaweed, plankton....proteins of the sea. It's all here, and fresh as harvest day!

04:22 TR News; One Year After Mass Vaccination in the UK the COVID-19 Hospitalisations Have Risen http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/10/one-year-after-mass-vaccination-in-the-uk-the-covid-19-hospitalisations-have-risen/

04:22 TR Bot; Blog Archive One Year After Mass Vaccination in the UK the COVID-19 Hospitalisations Have Risen

04:42 TR News; Borisnaro's Mass Infection Strategy http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/10/mass-infection-strategy/

04:42 TR Bot; Blog Archive Borisnaros Mass Infection Strategy

04:42 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: ^

04:42 schestowitz-TR2; he is coming after all of us

04:42 schestowitz-TR2; even those who could likely avoid this thing altogether

04:43 schestowitz-TR2; "get infected already!"

04:43 schestowitz-TR2; this stadium is across the road from us

04:43 schestowitz-TR2; and many of the people there go back and forth from town

04:43 schestowitz-TR2; next to us

04:43 schestowitz-TR2; time to keep off the streets

04:48 DaemonFC; I suppose it's not that I'm absolutely opposed to any Republican in theory, it's just that all of them I've seen running for anything since I've been old enough to vote are unacceptable.

04:48 DaemonFC; But they may have hit bedrock with Trumputler.

04:49 DaemonFC; Even when Bush was in office, things never got this bad.

04:49 DaemonFC; Banks were left to run amok, sure, but we have that now and so much more.

5 AM, March 10

05:05 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.68 k/sec., IPFS upstream 22.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.52

05:09 TR News; Migration of Diaspora Account Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162366

05:09 TR Bot; Migration of Diaspora Account | Tux Machines

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05:15 TR News; Unlike FSF, OSI does not respect the Four Freedoms and does not understand how these licences even work https://opensource.org/newsletter/OSI-mar-2022

05:15 TR Bot; Open Source responds to the Russia-Ukraine war: First thoughts from the Executive Director | Open Source Initiative

05:16 TR News; ECS Liva Z3 Celeron N4500 Jasper Lake mini PC becomes available for $195 - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/10/ecs-liva-z3-celeron-n4500-jasper-lake-mini-pc/

05:16 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/10/ecs-liva-z3-celeron-n4500-jasper-lake-mini-pc/

05:16 TR Bot; ECS Liva Z3 Celeron N4500 Jasper Lake mini PC becomes available for $195 - CNX Software

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05:17 TR News; Who or what is OSI anyway? http://techrights.org/2022/03/06/microsoft-osi-entryism/

05:18 TR Bot; Important Reminder: More Than Half of the OSIs Budget Goes Towards Promoting Microsofts Proprietary Software | Techrights

05:23 DaemonFC; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-9_Mail

05:23 TR Bot; K-9 Mail - Wikipedia

05:23 DaemonFC; 23:23, March 9, 2022 Daemonfc talk contribs 4,772 bytes +244 Missing features: GMail works, but the user needs to make an "app password" to get around missing XOAUTH2 and 2FA. The same thing happens with a Microsoft Hotmail/Live/Outlook/Whatever they call it this week email address. :) undo Tag: 2017 wikitext editor

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05:25 AdmFubar; https://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/widely-used-ups-devices-can-be-hijacked-and-destroyed-remotely/

05:25 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxtoday.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/widely-used-ups-devices-can-be-hijacked-and-destroyed-remotely/

05:25 TR Bot; Widely Used UPS Devices can be Hijacked and Destroyed Remotely | Linux Today

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05:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz, When the guy at T-Mobile fixed my Play Store access, he did it by reassigning my device to use an IP address in Colorado.

05:47 AdmFubar; https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/03/09/rosenberg-crypto-scam/

05:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: snopes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/03/09/rosenberg-crypto-scam/

05:47 TR Bot; Scammers Edited 10 Years of Facebook Posts to Appear Legit | Snopes.com

6 AM, March 10

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06:22 AdmFubar; https://www.alternet.org/2022/03/american-conspiracy-theories-great-britain/

06:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: alternet.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.alternet.org/2022/03/american-conspiracy-theories-great-britain/

06:22 TR Bot; conspiracy theories are spreading through England like a virus: report - Alternet.org

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06:39 DaemonFC; https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/oil-price-today-russia-ukraine-volodymyr-zelensky-compromise-invasion-war-2022-3

06:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/oil-price-today-russia-ukraine-volodymyr-zelensky-compromise-invasion-war-2022-3

06:39 TR Bot; Oil Prices Tumbles 15% As Ukraine President Signals Openness to Talks

06:39 DaemonFC; They don't care how it ends as long as it ends.

06:39 DaemonFC; The speculators.

06:52 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 38.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.55

06:52 IPFS; 275.57

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07:56 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 11.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.58

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08:58 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 50.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.60

9 AM, March 10

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09:29 TR News; "When talking to people in the RISC-V community, there are two words that are repeated often free and freedom." https://semiengineering.com/why-risc-v-is-succeeding/

09:29 TR Bot; Why RISC-V Is Succeeding

09:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: semiengineering.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://semiengineering.com/why-risc-v-is-succeeding/

09:30 TR News; "Liblouis has features to support screen-reading programs. This has led to its use in numerous open-source and proprietary screenreaders such as NVDA, Orca" http://liblouis.org/

09:30 TR Bot; Liblouis - An open-source braille translator and back-translator.

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09:31 TR News; The open source community is making rapid advancements in setting technology trends and addressing problems that are too massive for one organisation to solve" https://www.channelasia.tech/article/696054/ingram-micro-commits-channel-excellence-open-source/

09:31 TR Bot; Ingram Micro commits to channel excellence in open source - Channel Asia

09:32 TR News; "The point I hope to make clear is that if youve never checked, your RSS readership is likely larger than you realise." https://kn100.me/rss-perils/

09:32 TR Bot; The Perils of RSS | Kevin Norman

09:32 Alternative link; Cloudflare: kn100.me | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://kn100.me/rss-perils/

09:33 TR News; "In Relational pipes v0.18 we got a new powerful language for filtering and transformations: XPath." https://relational-pipes.globalcode.info/v_0/examples-xpath-filtering-transforming.xhtml

09:34 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, March 09, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/irc-log-090322/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/10/irc-log-090322/

09:34 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, March 09, 2022 | Techrights

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09:37 TR News; "Although all these actions have broad support, they are also raising fundamental questions about international research collaboration, academic freedom and the flow of knowledge that always come alongside the prospect of scientific sanctions, although perhaps never against the backdrop of a war of this scale and type." https://www.timeshighereducation.com/depth/do-academic-boycotts-work

09:37 TR Bot; Do academic boycotts work? | Times Higher Education (THE)

09:38 TR News; Defective "modern" hardware https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/252514427/Researchers-disclose-new-Spectre-V2-vulnerabilities

09:38 TR Bot; Researchers disclose new Spectre V2 vulnerabilities

09:38 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techtarget.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/252514427/Researchers-disclose-new-Spectre-V2-vulnerabilities

09:40 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/zero-trust-security-imperative-of-the-hour/90115036

09:40 TR Bot; Zero Trust security: Imperative of the hour, CIO News, ET CIO

09:40 TR News; Apple greed https://itwire.com/open-sauce/apple-has-one-aim-with-new-iphone-se-make-as-much-money-as-possible.html

09:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/open-sauce/apple-has-one-aim-with-new-iphone-se-make-as-much-money-as-possible.html

09:40 TR Bot; - Apple has one aim with new iPhone SE: make as much money as possible

09:41 TR News; Surveillance and Apple https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/9/22969632/apple-watch-peloton-fitness-wearables

09:41 TR Bot; Peloton adds Apple Watch integration to all of its machines - The Verge

09:41 TR News; And tinder is malware https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/9/22969346/tinder-background-check-swiping-match-garbo-safety-dating

09:41 TR Bot; Tinder users can now run in-app background checks - The Verge

09:43 TR News; #swpats #swpatents https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/russia_software_piracy/

09:43 TR Bot; Russia mulls making software piracy legal The Register

09:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/russia_software_piracy/

09:45 TR News; Patents? Copyrights? This Bill Gates-Bribed site says "intellectual [sic] property [sic] piracy [sic]"

09:48 TR News; Gulag (NSA) says "Belarusian hacking group, has conducted phishing campaigns" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/597353-belarus-targeted-ukraine-poland-in-phishing-campaigns-google

09:48 TR Bot; targeted Ukraine, Poland in phishing campaigns: Google | TheHill

09:50 TR News; Who does this actually hurt and how? https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/9/22969600/sony-interactive-entertainment-playstation-suspending-hardware-software-shipments-russia-store

09:50 TR Bot; PlayStation is suspending all hardware and software shipments in Russia - The Verge

09:51 TR News; Brain drain https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/ukraine-crisis-may-shift-some-it-work-to-india/90116616

09:51 TR Bot; Ukraine Crisis May Shift Some It Work To India, CIO News, ET CIO

09:53 TR News; "Approximately 3,000 workers in the U.S. and India, who make up almost half of the company's 8000 employees, are being made redundant." https://thehill.com/policy/technology/597500-company-that-laid-off-900-in-zoom-call-notifies-employees-of-layoffs-via

09:53 TR Bot; that laid off 900 in Zoom call notifies more of layoffs via severance checks | TheHill

09:54 TR News; "The Texas court ruled in Jane Doe. V. Facebook that the company was shielded from any liability as it was afforded publisher immunity" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/03/section-230-reexamination-tech-continues-russia-retaliation-4-9-ghz-centralization/

09:54 TR Bot; Section 230 Reexamination, Tech Continues Russia Retaliation, 4.9 GHz Centralization : Broadband Breakfast

09:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: broadbandbreakfast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/03/section-230-reexamination-tech-continues-russia-retaliation-4-9-ghz-centralization/

09:55 TR News; "Amazon also allegedly lied to Congress about manipulating consumers' search results, according to the committee." https://abcnews.go.com/Business/house-committee-makes-allegations-potential-criminal-conduct-amazon/story?id=83343183

09:55 TR Bot; House committee makes allegations of potential 'criminal conduct' by Amazon to Justice Department - ABC News

09:55 TR News; Media as government parrot https://fair.org/home/western-media-took-gold-in-evidence-free-allegations-of-chinese-olympic-spying/

09:55 TR Bot; Western Media Took Gold in Evidence-Free Allegations of Chinese Olympic Spying - FAIR

09:56 TR News; Patents kill https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/09/shocking-report-warns-us-likely-miss-modest-vaccine-donation-goal artificial scarcity

09:56 TR Bot; 'Shocking': Report Warns US Likely to Miss Modest Vaccine Donation Goal

09:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/09/shocking-report-warns-us-likely-miss-modest-vaccine-donation-goal

09:57 TR News; "Tor Browser 11.5a7 is now available from the Tor Browser download page and also from our distribution directory." https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-115a7/

09:57 TR Bot; New Alpha Release: Tor Browser 11.5a7 (Android) | The Tor Project

09:58 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 18.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.63

09:59 TR News; DRM is self harm https://torrentfreak.com/court-itunes-drm-removal-is-irrelevant-for-piracy-liability-lawsuit-220309/

09:59 TR Bot; iTunes DRM Removal is Irrelevant for Piracy Liability Lawsuit * TorrentFreak

09:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/court-itunes-drm-removal-is-irrelevant-for-piracy-liability-lawsuit-220309/

10 AM, March 10

10:00 TR News; Putin wants Gulag to become its Russian gulag https://torrentfreak.com/vpns-russia-forces-google-to-delete-masses-of-links-amid-ukraine-invasion-220309/

10:00 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/vpns-russia-forces-google-to-delete-masses-of-links-amid-ukraine-invasion-220309/

10:00 TR Bot; Russia Forces Google to Delete Masses of Links Amid Ukraine Invasion * TorrentFreak

10:01 TR News; You should not carry one at all. Billions of people carrying these mass surveillance devices is the crisis. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/using-your-phone-times-crisis

10:01 TR Bot; Using Your Phone in Times of Crisis | Electronic Frontier Foundation

10:02 TR News; The latest NSA back doors are available to install https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/03/microsoft-patch-tuesday-march-2022-edition/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA

10:02 TR Bot; Microsoft Patch Tuesday, March 2022 Edition Krebs on Security

10:02 TR Bot; Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights

10:02 schestowitz; MinceR: https://telex.hu/english/2022/03/09/marki-zay-orban-is-the-hungarian-putin

10:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: telex.hu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://telex.hu/english/2022/03/09/marki-zay-orban-is-the-hungarian-putin

10:02 TR Bot; Telex: Mrki-Zay: Orbn is the Hungarian Putin

10:03 TR News; "Welcome to the March edition of the monthly Fortran newsletter" https://fortran-lang.org/newsletter/2022/03/09/Fortran-Newsletter-March-2022/

10:03 TR Bot; Fortran newsletter: March 2022 - Fortran Programming Language

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10:04 schestowitz; provocative headline

10:04 schestowitz; there is only ONE Putin

10:04 schestowitz; Putin will invade for this act of aggression

10:04 schestowitz; comparing HIM to ORBAN

10:05 TR News; Trump used as a straw man to paint terrible companies are victims https://truthout.org/articles/judge-says-smartmatic-can-pursue-defamation-claims-against-giuliani-fox-news/

10:05 TR Bot; Judge Says Smartmatic Can Pursue Defamation Claims Against Giuliani, Fox News

10:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/judge-says-smartmatic-can-pursue-defamation-claims-against-giuliani-fox-news/

10:06 TR News; 5G as patent evergreening and hype https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/09/the-race-to-5g-was-more-of-a-waddle-to-nowhere/

10:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/09/the-race-to-5g-was-more-of-a-waddle-to-nowhere/

10:06 TR Bot; Race To 5G Was More Of A Waddle To Nowhere | Techdirt

10:08 activelow; currently, Russia/Lawrow argue with USA biological and chemical weapons research inside Ukraine, live on TV

10:08 TR News; Stop sticking everything in the Web, it's a security risk and liability https://hackaday.com/2022/03/09/webgpu-better-than-webgl/

10:08 TR Bot; Better Than WebGL? | Hackaday

10:11 TR News; Geofence https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/09/virginia-court-blocks-geofence-warrant-as-unconstitutionally-vague/

10:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/09/virginia-court-blocks-geofence-warrant-as-unconstitutionally-vague/

10:11 TR Bot; Court Blocks Geofence Warrant As Unconstitutionally Vague | Techdirt

10:12 kingoffrance; "Russia mulls making software piracy legal" that's a good example of legal v lawful. legal == formal. is freedom formal? "positive law" yes. but something "not a crime" is not "legal" unless explicitly spelled out "positive rights"

10:12 kingoffrance; *good example of probably misleading

10:13 kingoffrance; its bad because the implication is, you can only do approved things on some list somewhere

10:13 schestowitz; who is the victim?

10:13 schestowitz; (or the "crime" [n.])

10:13 kingoffrance; that is what a "legal" world would look like, a whitelist of "freedoms". in practice this is more or less true because "natural rights" dont really mean much except law of the jungle

10:13 kingoffrance; yeah not arguing that :)

10:14 kingoffrance; im not 100%, everything kind of ends up that way...but its sloppy/lazy/bad implications IMO

10:14 kingoffrance; that you can only do "approved" things and nothing else

10:14 TR News; GDPR right to erasure https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/09/once-again-thomas-goolnik-gets-google-to-forget-our-tag-about-thomas-goolnik/

10:14 TR Bot; Again, Thomas Goolnik Gets Google To Forget Our Tag About Thomas Goolnik | Techdirt

10:14 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/09/once-again-thomas-goolnik-gets-google-to-forget-our-tag-about-thomas-goolnik/

10:15 activelow; while ago, by accident, i kept open a tor-exit, few minutes, and few days later supposedly someone had "ilegally" downloaded/streamed some crap, from youtube btw.

10:15 kingoffrance; the "law" was "where the law is unknown, there is no law" == freedom by default

10:15 kingoffrance; "legal" would 180 that, "unknown" becomes prohibited by default.

10:15 TR News; "DNAs three billion genetic letters are the literal program that built us" https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/the-ultimate-privacy-betrayal-personal-dna-used-for-undisclosed-purposes-without-permission/

10:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: privateinternetaccess.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/the-ultimate-privacy-betrayal-personal-dna-used-for-undisclosed-purposes-without-permission/

10:15 TR Bot; The Ultimate Privacy Betrayal: Personal DNA Used for Undisclosed Purposes, without Permission

10:15 kingoffrance; its part of knowing your accuser perhaps too, or related. knowing which law you broke

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10:16 TR News; "Police authorities are increasingly requesting biometric data, more and more often with success" https://digit.site36.net/2022/03/09/dna-facial-images-and-fingerprints-german-biometric-police-systems-contain-ten-million-people/

10:16 TR Bot; DNA, facial images and fingerprints: German biometric police systems contain 10 million people Matthias Monroy

10:16 activelow; it was intentionally trapped, with both, first it wasn't an "illegal download", second it wasn't me, and the formal "legal" proceeding of the "lawyers" was the criminal act

10:16 kingoffrance; *facing your accuser

10:16 TR News; You should boycott everything of Facebook https://www.propublica.org/article/using-facebooks-own-data-to-understand-the-platforms-role-in-jan-6

10:16 TR Bot; Using Facebooks Own Data to Understand the Platforms Role in Jan. 6 ProPublica

10:16 Alternative link; Cloudflare: propublica.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.propublica.org/article/using-facebooks-own-data-to-understand-the-platforms-role-in-jan-6

10:17 TR News; Stop paying the patent cartel. Mass-produce the thing cheaply. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/09/holy-hell-dem-leadership-pulls-covid-relief-spending-bill

10:17 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/09/holy-hell-dem-leadership-pulls-covid-relief-spending-bill

10:17 TR Bot; 'Holy Hell': Dem Leadership Pulls Covid Relief From Spending Bill

10:18 activelow; and bouncing an open tor-exit for 5minutes had cost me 1200Euros, funneled into a criminal network of "lawyers"

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10:19 TR News; Cancel the patents if you want to have a chance at progress. But that won't happen when WHO takes bribes from famous criminal Bill Gates. ttps://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/09/after-2-years-who-chief-says-pandemic-not-over-anywhere-until-its-over-everywhere

10:20 TR News; COVID-19 surge in the UK this month http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/10/mass-infection-strategy /http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/10/one-year-after-mass-vaccination-in-the-uk-the-covid-19-hospitalisations-have-risen/

10:20 TR Bot; Blog Archive Borisnaros Mass Infection Strategy

10:20 TR Bot; Blog Archive One Year After Mass Vaccination in the UK the COVID-19 Hospitalisations Have Risen

10:23 TR News; Stop making this about wings. It is not. https://www.thenation.com/article/society/cuomo-camp-canceled-not/

10:23 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/society/cuomo-camp-canceled-not/

10:23 TR Bot; When Railing Against Cancel Culture Is About Railing Against Accountability | The Nation

10:23 kingoffrance; its like "intellectual property rights" (quasi-property, quasi-rights at best, not actually property or rights) ...its inversion of hierarchy, to say "freedoms" are "legal"

10:23 TR News; "Cancel culture" is NOT about wings. http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/

10:23 TR Bot; Social Control Media: Where Cancel Culture Thrives | Techrights

10:23 kingoffrance; backasswards is the technical term :)

10:24 schestowitz-TR2; technical :-)

10:24 kingoffrance; its different for a license, contract, permit, privilege, etc.

10:25 kingoffrance; its correct for that

10:25 kingoffrance; its not a good general look though :/

10:25 kingoffrance; papers, please!

10:25 kingoffrance; is what it would be

10:29 activelow; the berne convention refers to "authors' rights", not "intellectual property rights"

10:30 activelow; and those rights cannot be terminated by any license; which means an author decides on the terms of publication

10:31 activelow; with GPL, the options are limited, to remain compliant, which is an author may decide to not publish anything at all, neither source nor binary, to remain compliant with GPL

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10:31 TR News; "In late January, as Russia kept amassing its military along Ukraines borders, Jiang Libo, a 50-year-old Chinese programmer living in Kyiv, surveyed his acquaintances to see if they were worried." https://www.thenation.com/article/world/china-ukraine-russia/

10:31 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/world/china-ukraine-russia/

10:31 TR Bot; Chinas Ukraine Dilemma | The Nation

10:32 activelow; another mis-conception, i think, is the assumption anyone may enforce GPL arbitrarily, while i think it is the authors who may insist on GPL with publication of sources, not anyone else

10:32 activelow; and the GPL nor any other license do not terminate the Berne Convention with regards to "author's rights"

10:34 TR News; Russia can just move to Free software, which is better https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/09/russia-is-considering-legalizing-software-piracy-due-to-the-world-punishing-it-over-ukraine-aggression/

10:34 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/09/russia-is-considering-legalizing-software-piracy-due-to-the-world-punishing-it-over-ukraine-aggression/

10:34 TR Bot; Is Considering Legalizing Software Piracy Due To The World Punishing It Over Ukraine Aggression | Techdirt

10:36 TR News; Germany is attacking social control media https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/09/court-correctly-says-germanys-social-media-censorship-law-goes-too-far/ it impacts also people outside Germany: http://techrights.org/2022/01/18/ibm-censorship/ http://techrights.org/2021/12/22/fsfe-censorship/

10:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/09/court-correctly-says-germanys-social-media-censorship-law-goes-too-far/

10:36 TR Bot; (Correctly) Says Germanys Social Media Censorship Law Goes Too Far | Techdirt

10:36 TR Bot; Someone Is Very Desperate to Knock My Account Off Twitter | Techrights

10:36 TR Bot; FSFE Misuses FSFE Budget to Issue Frivolous Takedown Requests Against Critics | Techrights

10:38 TR News; Further escalation, further armaments, pouring in weapons is going to make conditions worse, principally for people of Ukraine" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/3/9/tariq_ali_how_russian_invasion_backfired

10:38 TR Bot; Tariq Ali on Ukraine, NATO Expansion & How Putins Invasion Galvanized a Russian Peace Movement | Democracy Now!

10:38 TR News; Variscite Subverts Component Crises with Launch of Additional Production Line Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162368

10:38 TR Bot; Variscite Subverts Component Crises with Launch of Additional Production Line | Tux Machines

10:40 schestowitz-TR2; spammers

10:40 schestowitz-TR2; no connection to Linux

10:40 schestowitz-TR2; unpublished

10:43 TR News; "Southwest Islands means mainly the Ryukyu Archipelago, also known as OkinawaPrefecture. Taiwan contingency presumably means an attempt by China to regain control of Taiwan by military force." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/09/japan-declares-okinawa-a-combat-zone/

10:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/09/japan-declares-okinawa-a-combat-zone/

10:43 TR Bot; Declares Okinawa a Combat Zone - CounterPunch.org

10:44 TR News; And now we see the Internet failing, contrary to assumptions wrongly made https://www.thenation.com/article/world/putin-russian-media/

10:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/world/putin-russian-media/

10:44 TR Bot; Nothing Scares Putin More Than Informed Russians | The Nation

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10:49 schestowitz-TR2; gm, batalie

10:49 bnchs; wrong tab

10:49 bnchs; gm

10:51 schestowitz-TR2; what is your take on

10:51 schestowitz-TR2; osi jumping into the let;'s ban ruissia wagon

10:51 schestowitz-TR2; with italo and "ethical" source trolls?

10:51 schestowitz-TR2; worth doing video about?

10:51 bnchs; yes

10:51 bnchs; its important to free software

10:52 TR News; Bezos might one day become a criminal as big as Bill Gates https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/09/house-panel-calls-doj-probe-amazon-over-alleged-obstruction-congress

10:52 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/09/house-panel-calls-doj-probe-amazon-over-alleged-obstruction-congress

10:52 TR Bot; House Panel Calls for DOJ Probe of Amazon Over Alleged Obstruction of Congress

10:53 TR News; You still buy things on Amazon? https://truthout.org/articles/house-lawmakers-say-amazon-may-have-illegally-impeded-antitrust-investigation/

10:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/house-lawmakers-say-amazon-may-have-illegally-impeded-antitrust-investigation/

10:53 TR Bot; House Lawmakers Say Amazon May Have Illegally Impeded Antitrust Investigation

10:54 schestowitz-TR2; I need your comment

10:54 schestowitz-TR2; text:

10:54 schestowitz-TR2; https://opensource.org/newsletter/OSI-mar-2022

10:54 TR Bot; Open Source responds to the Russia-Ukraine war: First thoughts from the Executive Director | Open Source Initiative

10:57 TR News; Reddit "are stationing themselves to somehow be even worse than the other major social media sites, and at the very least it's filled with even more spam somehow." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-11-12.gmi

10:58 bnchs; "open source" software has responded to the war by either violating software freedoms and adding a terms of use to their license, or sabotaging russians by ruining their russian localization file

10:59 bnchs; they shouldn't take action like this

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11 AM, March 10

11:00 bnchs; software freedoms dont mean anything to these developers because they have been abstracted away by "open source"

11:00 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs: any other comments? will record shortly

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11:01 bnchs; well thats all i have to say

11:01 schestowitz-TR2; thank you

11:01 schestowitz-TR2; that helps

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11:02 schestowitz-TR2; not clkear who they trey to punish

11:02 schestowitz-TR2; it's not putin or oligarchs

11:02 mib_nlekxs; schestowitz: Don't you work for a company with "Open Source" in the name?

11:02 schestowitz-TR2; but ordinary volunteers who translate things

11:02 XRevan86; activelow: Lawrow said that Russia did not attack Ukraine. Just something to keep in mind about the level of statements.

11:02 schestowitz-TR2; or package things like XRevan86 does

11:03 schestowitz-TR2; mib_nlekxs: yes, I'm not happy where I work lately

11:03 mib_nlekxs; Why do you critiise other companies for being open source but not criticise your own

11:04 schestowitz-TR2; I criticise where I work constantly

11:04 schestowitz-TR2; we still use the "F"

11:04 schestowitz-TR2; but the management doesn't "get" it

11:04 activelow; XRevan86: it is confirmed Westinghouse Electric provided nuclear rods to ukraine facilities, for whatever reason they did it

11:04 mib_nlekxs; You criticise IBM publicly daily here but where do you criticise your employer publicly

11:05 schestowitz-TR2; I criticise it publicly too

11:05 mib_nlekxs; Where

11:05 activelow; there wasn't any reporting yet, if the chemical and biological research facilities supposedly involved with Pentagon in Ukraine, are substantial or not

11:05 schestowitz-TR2; IBM is not criticised for this

11:05 XRevan86; activelow: Either for their numerous power plants or for a doomsday machine?

11:05 schestowitz-TR2; IBM is criticised not for saying "Open Source"

11:05 schestowitz-TR2; so if you work for IBM/Red Hat, you are pissing at the wind

11:05 mib_nlekxs; Where do you publicly criticise your employer for being "Open Source"

11:05 schestowitz-TR2; but without naming one's employer by name it is possible to dissent too

11:05 schestowitz-TR2; like alex oliva did at ibm

11:06 schestowitz-TR2; eventualkly he left

11:06 activelow; XRevan86: i do not know. nonetheless, yesterday Chernobyl was cut-off from the electricity grid, and data transmission to IAEA terminated

11:06 mib_nlekxs; So you don't publicly criticise your emplyer

11:06 mib_nlekxs; Coward

11:06 activelow; and the argument from Lawrow was: de-militarization, security interests etc.

11:06 schestowitz-TR2; lol

11:06 schestowitz-TR2; go away, troll

11:06 mib_nlekxs; Where do you do it publicly

11:06 mib_nlekxs; Easy question to answer

11:07 schestowitz-TR2; you don't even know the nature of the criticism

11:07 XRevan86; activelow: He likes to play with fire I guess.

11:07 schestowitz-TR2; some of it is an HR issue

11:07 schestowitz-TR2; some of it not to do with mere words

11:07 mib_nlekxs; Where do you publicly criticise them for being an open source company

11:07 mib_nlekxs; One link

11:07 mib_nlekxs; In and out

11:07 mib_nlekxs; 5 minute

11:07 schestowitz-TR2; it's in IRC

11:08 schestowitz-TR2; lots of places

11:08 schestowitz-TR2; with names removed

11:08 mib_nlekxs; Where's the link

11:08 mib_nlekxs; With the name in it

11:08 schestowitz-TR2; more of an HR issue

11:08 schestowitz-TR2; you are an anonymous troll

11:08 schestowitz-TR2; might as well be intending to 'dox' me

11:08 schestowitz-TR2; and you want me to help you?

11:08 mib_nlekxs; You criticise other people for saying that they favour "open source" but you work for an "open source" company and refuse to publicly criticise them

11:08 schestowitz-TR2; later

11:08 schestowitz-TR2; I'm doing Daily Lins

11:09 schestowitz-TR2; no time for trolls and provocateurs

11:09 mib_nlekxs; Hypocrite

11:09 schestowitz-TR2; anonymous coward

11:09 schestowitz-TR2; calling ME coward

11:09 mib_nlekxs; Hey look everyone this guy says that open source is the enemy but he works for Sirius Open Source

11:09 schestowitz-TR2; where do YOU work?

11:10 mib_nlekxs; And their website never mentions Free Software

11:10 bnchs; mib_nlekxs are you the guy from yesterday

11:10 schestowitz-TR2; the company was called that in 1998 ish

11:10 schestowitz-TR2; before the term was assassinated

11:10 bnchs; called "ahoy"

11:10 schestowitz-TR2; by the infiltrators

11:10 mib_nlekxs; The website tells people not to use proprietary software, but use open source instead

11:10 mib_nlekxs; It doesn't tell them to use Free Software

11:10 mib_nlekxs; But Roy takes their money

11:11 mib_nlekxs; And then says that Open Source is bad

11:11 schestowitz-TR2; wow, the trolling tactics has sunk to a new low

11:11 schestowitz-TR2; so now if you deploy free software

11:11 bnchs; are you a pissed off youtuber

11:11 schestowitz-TR2; but the employer uses the term "free/open source software"

11:11 schestowitz-TR2; that makes you the enemy

11:12 schestowitz-TR2; go troll elwewhere

11:12 mib_nlekxs; https://www.siriusopensource.com/en-uk/node/1155 - is this you

11:12 TR Bot; Dr Roy Schestowitz | Sirius Open Source

11:12 mib_nlekxs; On a page that never says "free software"

11:13 mib_nlekxs; Not even "free/open"

11:13 bnchs; "At work, Roy leverages Free-as-in-Freedom software to [...]"

11:13 bnchs; read better retard

11:13 mib_nlekxs; Except he makes open source software

11:13 mib_nlekxs; He uses free software to make open source software

11:13 TR News; Proprietary Software and DRM Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162369

11:13 TR Bot; Proprietary Software and DRM | Tux Machines

11:14 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162370

11:14 TR News; Web Browsers: Tor Browser and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162371

11:14 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines

11:14 TR Bot; Web Browsers: Tor Browser and More | Tux Machines

11:14 mib_nlekxs; He uses Free Software to release things under licenses that let proprietary companies use it without helping anyone

11:14 schestowitz-TR2; mib_nlekxs: you must be conflating OSI and OSS

11:15 schestowitz-TR2; the original OSI people were decent

11:15 schestowitz-TR2; the OSI like LF is run by hostile people

11:15 schestowitz-TR2; and corporate, penatgon-funded infiltrators

11:18 TR News; Free, Libre Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162372

11:18 TR Bot; Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers | Tux Machines

11:18 mib_nlekxs; So is it ok for companies to say that they're Open Source

11:18 mib_nlekxs; Or is that bad

11:18 schestowitz-TR2; straw man yawn

11:18 mib_nlekxs; Easy question

11:18 schestowitz-TR2; I did not even complain about THAT

11:18 schestowitz-TR2; the trolling quality has sunk very, very low

11:19 schestowitz-TR2; you are either lying or do not know what I complain about

11:19 schestowitz-TR2; try harder

11:19 schestowitz-TR2; hint: openwashing

11:19 mib_nlekxs; So is Open Source good

11:20 schestowitz-TR2; the term is unhelpful

11:20 schestowitz-TR2; and it's bad when companies misuse it

11:20 mib_nlekxs; Why do you work for a company that uses an unhelpful term

11:20 mib_nlekxs; It's even in their domain name

11:20 schestowitz-TR2; the ceo talks about free software

11:20 schestowitz-TR2; and has done since the 90s

11:20 schestowitz-TR2; many webhosts use the term "clown" now

11:21 schestowitz-TR2; should we boycott them too?

11:21 schestowitz-TR2; for calling servers that?

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11:23 mib_nlekxs; Hey you work for an Open Source company

11:23 mib_nlekxs; Just own that

11:23 schestowitz-TR2; no

11:23 schestowitz-TR2; the ceo says "free software"

11:23 schestowitz-TR2; and has since the 90s

11:23 mib_nlekxs; Is it bad to work for an Open Source company?

11:23 schestowitz-TR2; the media is to blame

11:23 schestowitz-TR2; they rebranded it all "open source"

11:23 schestowitz-TR2; and so for marketing reasons many need to put that term in web sites

11:23 mib_nlekxs; Is it bad to work for an Open Source company?

11:23 schestowitz-TR2; bark up the right tree, son

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11:23 mib_nlekxs; Is it bad to work for an Open Source company?

11:24 schestowitz-TR2; now, if you don't mind, I'm going to recoprd a video about racist OSI

11:24 mib_nlekxs; Ok Roy, who works for an Open Source company, refuses to say whether or not it's bad to work for an Open Source company

11:25 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162373

11:25 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

11:25 mib_nlekxs; If it's bad to work for an Open Source company why does Roy do so

11:26 activelow; XRevan86: since most of the russian positions were discussed, the new german government coalition and their plans concerned with "energy safety" and "foreign policy" deserved some attention

11:28 activelow; the strongest "support" of Ukraine was announced by "Alliance90/green", with the spectacle following what they envision, "social-ecological justice" heating their living quarters and fueling their cars with russian gas

11:29 activelow; the twisted double-think and double-talk of theirs is beyond what i could comprehend currently

11:31 activelow; if i had known, btw., i had never rented a flat attached to the gas grid or live anywhere close nearby such an infrastructure, and rather installed electrical heating, for the little hot water and heat i consume

11:32 TR News; Links 10/3/2022: LibreELEC (Matrix) 10.0.2 and Why RISC-V is Succeeding | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/libreelec-matrix-10-0-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/10/libreelec-matrix-10-0-2/

11:32 TR Bot; Links 10/3/2022: LibreELEC (Matrix) 10.0.2 and Why RISC-V is Succeeding | Techrights

11:33 mib_nlekxs; Where does Roy publicly criticise his employer

11:33 mib_nlekxs; With their name in it

11:34 mib_nlekxs; In https://techrights.org/2011/08/20/puppy-linux-updated/ he links to them without every saying he's associated

11:34 TR Bot; Links 20/8/2011: InstallJammer Fatigue, Puppy Linux Updated | Techrights

11:35 mib_nlekxs; But otherwise he never mentions them at all

11:35 bnchs; it wouldnt be relevant to techrights

11:35 schestowitz-TR2; lol

11:35 bnchs; its probanly in his blog

11:35 schestowitz-TR2; I see cancel culture goes to IRC

11:35 schestowitz-TR2; http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/

11:35 TR Bot; Social Control Media: Where Cancel Culture Thrives | Techrights

11:36 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs: I do mention them in my blog

11:36 schestowitz-TR2; but the anonymous coward is trying to twist things

11:36 schestowitz-TR2; looking for ways to "swat" me

11:36 bnchs; dont feed him attention

11:37 schestowitz-TR2; going to record in a momentr

11:37 schestowitz-TR2; I find the whole thing amusing actually

11:37 schestowitz-TR2; I will show rianne later

11:37 mib_nlekxs; Why is it not relevant to techrights

11:37 schestowitz-TR2; seeing what level the trolls have sunk to

11:38 schestowitz-TR2; goolagboy tried to imply that working with london town hall (yes) somehow makes you accountable for police brutality

11:38 bnchs; mib_nlekxs: because its personal

11:38 schestowitz-TR2; to help some municipality with a drupal site

11:38 schestowitz-TR2; so that they don't use some Microsoft trash

11:38 bnchs; it should be in his blog

11:38 mib_nlekxs; Why criticise all other companies for being open source on techrights, but only criticise employer on personal blog?

11:38 bnchs; not techrights

11:38 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs: worse, it'sa straw man

11:39 schestowitz-TR2; I don't blast companies for saying "open source"

11:39 schestowitz-TR2; but for openwashing

11:39 schestowitz-TR2; be back later

11:39 schestowitz-TR2; need to record

11:39 mib_nlekxs; Where is your employer name on your personal blog

11:39 bnchs; mib_nlekxs: get better reading comprehesion

11:40 bnchs; it wouldn't make sense arguing about a not even well-known company in techrights (not his personal blog)

11:41 activelow; although i consider a gas distribtion grid in cooperation with Russia an economical and ecological priority, i am not convinced gas distribution grids into households would benefit climate or provide an economic benefit

11:41 mib_nlekxs; https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Aschestowitz.com+%22sirius%22&ia=web has 0 hits

11:41 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://html.duckduckgo.com/html/?q=site%3Aschestowitz.com+%22sirius%22&ia=web )

11:41 mib_nlekxs; So where is the criticism

11:42 activelow; "Russia seeks to never depend on western allies again", lose translation, Lawrow, end quote.

11:42 activelow; which is almost equivalent to the spoutings from the new german foreign minister. Ms A. Baerbock, to achieve "independence from Russian energy"

11:43 mib_nlekxs; Roy has never publicly criticised his employer even though they write open source software for people who do bad things

11:44 activelow; which is breath-taking stupidity, with recent proposals to electrify coal (already operating at almost maximum capacity since the wind mills and solar panels didn't deliver as promised), and coal too is supplied from Russia mostly

11:44 bnchs; mib_nlekxs http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/02/13/focus-on-free-software/

11:44 TR Bot; Blog Archive 10+ Years in the Same Company, Focusing on Free Software

11:44 bnchs; this is one of his blog entries where he mentions his employer

11:44 bnchs; also define "people who do bad things"

11:45 mib_nlekxs; Where is the name of his company there

11:45 mib_nlekxs; Where is the criticism

11:46 bnchs; its a bit hard to search

11:46 bnchs; ill wait for roy to come back

11:47 kingoffrance; hitler says sky is blue. must 180 else you support hitler

11:47 kingoffrance; "bad people" is a straw man

11:47 bnchs; yes

11:47 kingoffrance; its "identity politics" nonsense

11:47 kingoffrance; noone can win that game

11:47 kingoffrance; becaues noone is "god"

11:47 kingoffrance; so everyone is "bad"

11:47 kingoffrance; yawn seen it a million times

11:49 mib_nlekxs; Is it bad to work for IBM?

11:49 mib_nlekxs; Because if it is then someone is "bad"

11:49 mib_nlekxs; So how do you define that

11:49 bnchs; "open source" is a marketing term because people understand that more

11:50 bnchs; mib_nlekxs: has sirius ever helped nazi germany?

11:50 mib_nlekxs; There are bad companies who say they're open source

11:50 mib_nlekxs; Does that mean all open source companies are bad?

11:50 bnchs; strawman again

11:50 mib_nlekxs; Easy question

11:50 bnchs; no

11:51 mib_nlekxs; Are all open source companies bad?

11:51 mib_nlekxs; That's easy

11:51 bnchs; no they're not

11:51 mib_nlekxs; Ok

11:51 mib_nlekxs; So if Red Hat aren't bad because they're Open Source, what makes them bad?

11:52 mib_nlekxs; Do they do bad things, or do they work for bad people?

11:52 bnchs; they knowingly cooperate with companies like IBM

11:53 mib_nlekxs; What does that mean

11:53 mib_nlekxs; What is cooperation

11:53 bnchs; they knowingly work with companies like IBM

11:53 mib_nlekxs; Wine uses documentation from Microsoft

11:54 mib_nlekxs; Does that mean Wine cooperates with Microsoft

11:54 bnchs; they rarely rely on official documentation

11:54 mib_nlekxs; They often do

11:54 bnchs; they reverse engineer because of hidden undocumented NT functions

11:55 mib_nlekxs; They use that in addition to the official documentation

11:55 bnchs; to answer your question, no because microsoft doesnt support them or ever worked with them

11:55 bnchs; and the documentation are public

11:56 mib_nlekxs; Ok so if a bad company gives something to an open source company they employ that's bad?

11:57 bnchs; elaborate

11:57 mib_nlekxs; If an open source company works for IBM and IBM give them money is that bad?

11:58 bnchs; yes

11:58 bnchs; because they knowingly support them

11:59 bnchs; with support

11:59 bnchs; are you gonna keep throwing shit questions all day?

noon, March 10

12:00 mib_nlekxs; If an open source company works for SAP and SAP give them money is that bad?

12:00 bnchs; whats SAP?

12:00 mib_nlekxs; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAP

12:00 TR Bot; SAP - Wikipedia

12:00 mib_nlekxs; Giant German software company that writes financial stuff that's used to fie people

12:01 mib_nlekxs; And lots of IoT and Clown

12:01 bnchs; do they help them write proprietary code?

12:03 mib_nlekxs; Yes

12:03 bnchs; well of course its bad

12:03 mib_nlekxs; https://www.siriusopensource.com/en-us/case-studies/corporate/sap Roy's company works for them

12:03 TR Bot; SAP | Sirius Open Source

12:04 mib_nlekxs; They helped turn OpenLDAP into proprietary software

12:05 mib_nlekxs; They integrated code that was never publicly released

12:06 bnchs; well they wrote features for the company's usecase

12:06 bnchs; i thought you meant an entire proprietary program

12:07 mib_nlekxs; You can look at the git history for OpenLDAP and see they never contributed source

12:07 mib_nlekxs; They took something open and sold closed bits to another company

12:07 mib_nlekxs; That's what Open Source companies do

12:08 mib_nlekxs; They improve other people's code for money and never give the improvements back

12:08 bnchs; well that does seem odd

12:09 mib_nlekxs; That's what Roy does

12:09 mib_nlekxs; Every day

12:10 XRevan86; Ariadne: https://nitter.eu/ariadneconill/status/1501705478967119874 do ye really want to know?

12:10 TR Bot; Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "can't wait to hear the tankies explain why putin's military forces bombed a *checks notes* children's hospital" | nitter

12:10 mib_nlekxs; He's worked for an Open Source company for over 10 years

12:10 XRevan86; Ariadne: Lavrov said it was an Azov base.

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12:10 mib_nlekxs; But how many commits can you find from him in software his company works on

12:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 17.80 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.65

12:11 mib_nlekxs; bnchs: In over a decade, how much code has Roy's employer contributed to upstream?

12:11 bnchs; mib_nlekxs: ill check out the source code

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12:16 mib_nlekxs; He's a hyporcite when he criticises open source companies

12:16 mib_nlekxs; He works for one

12:17 bnchs; i would say

12:18 bnchs; his company just helps other companies not get stuck in proprietary lock-ins

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12:19 mib_nlekxs; But they write proprietary patches

12:19 mib_nlekxs; Where is all their source

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12:22 bnchs; hmm

12:22 mib_nlekxs; schestowitz-TR2: Easy question where is your employer's source code

12:23 mib_nlekxs; Did they publish it anywhere or did they just give it to the company that hired them

12:27 mib_nlekxs; I think bnchs would like to know

12:27 bnchs; he's currently recording

12:29 mib_nlekxs; He can answer when he gets back

12:29 mib_nlekxs; There's no rush

12:29 TR News; Since COVID-19 started over 10 TRILLION dollars PUMPED into the economy in the form of debt the US population cannot repay. The oligarchs bagged most of that money. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gzXs3EdlbzY

12:29 TR Bot; Jim Rogers Issues Warning: U.S. Dollar Being Used as Instrument of War," Its the Endgame - Invidious

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12:42 TR News; 22:20 "If the government says something enough times, people believe it" (talks about war on cash and surveillance on one's purchases, e.g. through 'phones', for social control) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gzXs3EdlbzY

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12:44 bnchs; mib_nlekxs, are you there

12:44 bnchs; so i figured out something

12:44 bnchs; that it's actually OK to make modifications to a free software and not publish the modifications

12:45 bnchs; as long as you don't publish the modified program in binary form

12:46 bnchs; GPLv3 even allows that

12:46 bnchs; you have to publish the modified source code IF you published the modified program in binary form

12:47 bnchs; https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DevelopChangesUnderNDA

12:47 TR Bot; Frequently Asked Questions about the GNU Licenses - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation

12:48 bnchs; "Does the GPL allow me to develop a modified version under a nondisclosure agreement?"

12:48 bnchs; "Yes. For instance, you can accept a contract to develop changes and agree not to release your changes until the client says ok. This is permitted because in this case no GPL-covered code is being distributed under an NDA."

12:48 bnchs; so of course checkmated

12:53 bnchs; hello?

12:58 activelow; and i think, not absolutely sure, it's GPL _authors_ who may choose to enforce GPL of modifications made to their own source, not any other arbitrary entity

12:59 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162379

12:59 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

12:59 activelow; if any entity infringed GPL of software i had not written myself, i doubt i could successfully sue anyone to release sources. or am i wrong with this asumption?

1 PM, March 10

13:00 bnchs; yes

13:00 bnchs; it's the copyright holders

13:00 bnchs; but really if the modifications you made are private

13:00 bnchs; and you plan to not distribute the modified program in binary

13:00 bnchs; it's not a GPL violation

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13:24 schestowitz-TR2; ok, transcoding done

13:24 schestowitz-TR2; uploading

13:25 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/osi-github.png

13:25 schestowitz; the context will be clearer when I publish it

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13:25 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaoe4sc9nKE

13:25 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=iaoe4sc9nKE

13:26 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Black cat is constantly climbing up a wall and coming down while petting her - Invidious

13:27 bnchs; i guess the troll is inactive

13:27 schestowitz-TR2; "mission aborted"

13:28 bnchs; he was talking about why your company's private modifications to free software wasn't published

13:28 bnchs; even though it was allowed in the GPL

13:29 schestowitz-TR2; it's nothing I know about, that SAP thing

13:29 schestowitz-TR2; none of our staff does LDAP, I think, except one associate, who is contracted

13:38 schestowitz; the modifications were probably not done by us, either

13:38 schestowitz; we do integration, not development

13:38 schestowitz; the developers are other companies

13:39 bnchs; well of course he assumes that you help modified it

13:39 schestowitz; which I could not, but trolls would then start harassing them, too

13:39 schestowitz; *could name

13:39 bnchs; i don't know where this troll came from

13:39 schestowitz; won't say

13:39 schestowitz; and calls ME "coward"

13:40 bnchs; he came just yesterday

13:40 bnchs; after you uploaded that gulagtube blog

13:40 TR News; How Linux Has Changed The Business Landscape & what The Future Holds For Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162380

13:40 TR Bot; How Linux Has Changed The Business Landscape & what The Future Holds For Linux | Tux Machines

13:42 schestowitz-TR2; I did not pay attention

13:42 TR News; LibreOffice Writer: Inserting Al Qur'an Verses and Translations http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/03/libreoffice-writer-inserting-al-quran-verses-and-translations.html

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13:42 TR Bot; LibreOffice Writer: Inserting Al Qur'an Verses and Translations

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13:43 bnchs; ahoy> "That does not compensate for the underlying videos however. Many of them are spammy (like webspam with video as medium of choice), typically without any disclosure/s, and theyre gaming the video-centric search results (akin to SEO)." http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/influencers-ruin-the-www/

13:43 TR Bot; Influencers Gaming the Web of Videos (GulagTube) | Techrights

13:43 bnchs; ahoy> talking about the need for disclosure is the last straw. you pretend to be about free software when Sirius OPEN SOURCE has paid YOUR bills for an entire decade. maybe you should start disclosing THAT (properly) to YOUR audience. you were an "influencer" before the word was coined for fucks sake...

13:43 bnchs; <ahoy> granted these youtube people are awful too

13:43 bnchs; then he quits after he sent all that

13:43 bnchs; i think he's the same troll

13:44 schestowitz-TR2; ah, makes sense

13:44 schestowitz-TR2; I did not see that last night

13:44 schestowitz-TR2; yeah, Sirius is like Microsoft and Valve LOL

13:45 bnchs; i guess having a job means they paid your bills and that means you're an "influencer"

13:46 schestowitz-TR2; it's baloney

13:46 schestowitz-TR2; also, if I worked for vlave, I'd be paid 5 times more than I am paid now

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13:49 TR News; Daiki Ueno: On command-line argument parsing https://blogs.gnome.org/dueno/on-command-line-argument-parsing/

13:49 TR Bot; On command-line argument parsing Daiki Ueno

13:49 bnchs; valve seems much more worse than a "open source" company

13:50 bnchs; that mainly specializes in helping companies break from proprietary lock-ins

13:51 schestowitz-TR2; valve makes drm

13:51 schestowitz-TR2; it barely makes games

13:51 schestowitz-TR2; it helps people who make games distribute them with drm

13:51 TR News; Deprecating things in curl | daniel.haxx.se https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/03/10/deprecating-things-in-curl/

13:51 Alternative link; Cloudflare: haxx.se | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/03/10/deprecating-things-in-curl/

13:51 TR Bot; things in curl | daniel.haxx.se

13:52 TR News; Sudo 1.9.10: using regular expressions in the sudoers file | Sudo https://www.sudo.ws/posts/2022/03/sudo-1.9.10-using-regular-expressions-in-the-sudoers-file/

13:52 TR Bot; Sudo 1.9.10: using regular expressions in the sudoers file | Sudo

13:52 bnchs; yes

13:53 bnchs; steam gives the developers an option to pack their games with DRM

13:53 schestowitz-TR2; very little apart from thaty

13:53 schestowitz-TR2; having said that

13:53 bnchs; they rarely make games when they realized they can make all their profits from steam

13:53 schestowitz-TR2; they recently started working with the wine company

13:53 schestowitz-TR2; recently as in years ago

13:53 schestowitz-TR2; to make wine better, even thoughn their main focus was proton

13:54 schestowitz-TR2; the process occasionally improved some graphics drivers too

13:54 schestowitz-TR2; they did their for their own business purposes

13:54 schestowitz-TR2; tim swine-e did not of that

13:55 schestowitz-TR2; they also try to become a distributon company

13:55 schestowitz-TR2; i.e. a atxman

13:55 schestowitz-TR2; taxman

13:55 schestowitz-TR2; it's a lucrative business of rotten apple and gulag

13:55 bnchs; proton requires steam

13:55 schestowitz-TR2; afaik, as a side effect we get better wine

13:56 schestowitz-TR2; and in the case of steam dreck, we get more gnu/linux "users"

13:56 schestowitz-TR2; kde, archlinus

13:56 bnchs; tim swine-e tried to grow their store by making exclusivity deals

13:56 schestowitz-TR2; which is better than people gaming on Vista 10/11

13:56 bnchs; and banning games that reject their deals

13:57 schestowitz; https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/21/21377660/apple-fortnite-epic-antitrust-lawsuit-in-app-purchases-special-deal

13:57 TR Bot; Apple says Epic is putting the entire App Store model at risk - The Verge

13:57 schestowitz; https://in.ign.com/steam-deck/162788/news/epics-tim-sweeney-calls-steam-deck-amazing-move-by-valve

13:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ign.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://in.ign.com/steam-deck/162788/news/epics-tim-sweeney-calls-steam-deck-amazing-move-by-valve

13:57 TR Bot; Epic's Tim Sweeney Calls Steam Deck 'Amazing Move By Valve'

13:57 schestowitz; amazon as in,

13:57 schestowitz; "f*!! I'm jeralous!"

13:57 schestowitz; *amazing

13:58 schestowitz-TR2; he worries that epic will have to go "through" valve

13:58 schestowitz-TR2; as middleman

13:58 schestowitz-TR2; like with apple and gulag

13:58 schestowitz-TR2; with restrictions on things like ads

13:58 schestowitz-TR2; which makes epic like a slave

13:58 schestowitz-TR2; in the distribution model

13:59 schestowitz-TR2; vis a vis, hence the threat of shithub

13:59 schestowitz-TR2; it makes microsoft a distribution middleman

13:59 schestowitz-TR2; and then the NSA too

13:59 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/03/03/truck-full-of-rice-twitter-thread/

13:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/03/03/truck-full-of-rice-twitter-thread/

13:59 TR Bot; Guy Orders A Literal Truck Load Of Rice By Mistake A Twitter Thread

13:59 schestowitz-TR2; they can hand-craft rogue binaries for people

13:59 bnchs; "Amazing move by Valve! A handheld PC/console hybrid running the SteamOS fork of Arch Linux, and its an open platform where users are free to install software of their choosingincluding Windows and other stores"

13:59 bnchs; "Windows and other stores"

13:59 schestowitz-TR2; MinceR: sounds like a new emoji

2 PM, March 10

14:00 bnchs; is it other stores on GNU/Linux

14:00 bnchs; or install windows THEN you can use epic games store

14:00 schestowitz-TR2; lol!

14:00 schestowitz-TR2; or heroic thing

14:00 schestowitz-TR2; whicb uiis shithub iirc

14:00 schestowitz; http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152558

14:00 TR Bot; Games: Heroic Games Launcher, Peachleaf Valley, Residual | Tux Machines

14:02 bnchs; for a guy who likes open platforms

14:02 TR News; Bash Keyboard Shortcuts for the pro! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162381

14:02 bnchs; he really hates to put his games and store on GNU/Linux

14:02 schestowitz-TR2; remember:

14:02 bnchs; so another user has to make a launcher instead

14:02 schestowitz-TR2; linux is "chaters"

14:02 TR Bot; Bash Keyboard Shortcuts for the pro! | Tux Machines

14:02 schestowitz-TR2; to him, we need rootkits

14:02 schestowitz-TR2; and then MAYBE he can tolerate us

14:02 bnchs; yes he didn't say that when he ported fortnite to android

14:03 bnchs; which may or may not have a custom kernel depending on the user

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; carmack did bash linux a few times

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; but afaik he did not snub the platform

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; even when the kernel itself was a lot less mature

14:04 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162382

14:04 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; esp. graphics parts

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; I remember the older days of GPUs

14:05 schestowitz-TR2; the drivers and all... not a breeze 20+ years ago

14:05 schestowitz-TR2; doable if you didn't buy some very modern GPU with notoriety wrt drivers, like ati and maybe nvidia

14:05 schestowitz-TR2; ati began to change for the better years later

14:05 schestowitz-TR2; nvidia is still crap

14:06 schestowitz-TR2; ok, video ready

14:06 bnchs; anti-cheats get broken all the time

14:06 MinceR; 10 150216 < bnchs> he really hates to put his games and store on GNU/Linux

14:06 MinceR; we're still waiting for the GNU/Linux client for UT3

14:07 bnchs; tim swine-e got bribed to not port UT3 for GNU/Linux

14:07 MinceR; it's been only 15 years yet, after all

14:07 bnchs; or port any of epic games' games to GNU/Linux

14:07 schestowitz; bnchs: you are quoted in the video and text http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/oss-and-equality/

14:07 TR Bot; Is Open Source Against Equality Now? | Techrights

14:07 schestowitz; tell me if you spot typos

14:07 MinceR; they also decided not to make UT4 at all, because a shitty game called fortnite was more important

14:07 schestowitz; 'game'

14:08 bnchs; it's a game

14:08 bnchs; virtual gambling for kids

14:08 schestowitz-TR2; also github

14:08 schestowitz-TR2; game

14:08 schestowitz-TR2; they game you

14:08 schestowitz-TR2; for"likes"

14:08 bnchs; "mommy mommy i want the V-BUCKS"

14:13 TR News; Is Open Source Against Equality Now? | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/oss-and-equality/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/10/oss-and-equality/

14:13 SomeH4x0r; techrights-news: not found!

14:14 bnchs; SomeH4x0r, gemini?

14:15 SomeH4x0r; yes

14:15 bnchs; http is working

14:16 schestowitz; gemini page being generated

14:17 schestowitz-TR2; i get a knotify popup when it is done

14:20 TR News; Turning applications into browsers? Maybe that's not what we need, Qt. https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-webengine-in-qt-6

14:20 Alternative link; Cloudflare: qt.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-webengine-in-qt-6

14:20 TR Bot; Qt WebEngine in Qt 6

14:22 TR News; Blender 3.1.0 Released with Metal GPU backend, Multi-thread Support for Geometry Nodes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162339#comment-33017

14:22 TR Bot; Blender 3.1 Released with Lots of Performance Improvements, Other Changes | Tux Machines

14:22 TR News; Why does a site called "Ubuntu" not mention GNU/Linux?? https://www.ubuntupit.com/mac-vs-pc-which-is-better-for-your-needs/

14:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ubuntupit.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ubuntupit.com/mac-vs-pc-which-is-better-for-your-needs/

14:22 TR Bot; Mac vs. PC: Which Is Better for Your Needs?

14:23 bnchs; so of course, KDE's Okular PDF reader (which i use)

14:23 bnchs; requires purpose

14:23 bnchs; which requires kaccount-integration

14:23 bnchs; which requires qt webengine

14:24 schestowitz-TR2; strictly?

14:24 bnchs; yes

14:24 schestowitz-TR2; which part of it uses those APIs?

14:24 schestowitz-TR2; [01:39] <techrights-news> PDF is till junk. https://fortintam.com/blog/please-adapt-pdfjs-xfa-forms-for-linux-pdf-readers/

14:24 TR Bot; Please adapt Mozillas code so that PDF readers on Linux can handle XFA forms! The Open Sourcerer

14:25 bnchs; okular pdf reader > purpose > kaccounts-integration > signon-ui > qt5-webengine

14:25 bnchs; the signon ui requires web engine

14:26 bnchs; it doesn't read HTML files

14:27 MinceR; what a mess

14:27 bnchs; although there is a lightweight PDF reader called mupdf

14:27 bnchs; written in C

14:27 schestowitz-TR2; yes, I know it

14:27 schestowitz-TR2; there are text basxed ones

14:27 MinceR; i use mupdf to read pdf and evince to fill out pdf forms

14:27 schestowitz-TR2; they reduced ppdfs to readable stuff

14:27 schestowitz-TR2; l;ike lynx

14:28 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162383

14:28 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines

14:29 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-pictures-3-3-22-6.jpg

14:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-pictures-3-3-22-6.jpg

14:31 bnchs; i'm using a math library called cglm that can only be downloaded from shithub

14:35 schestowitz-TR2; maybe email them

14:35 schestowitz-TR2; ask them to mirror (at least) elsewhere

14:36 schestowitz-TR2; SomeH4x0r: updated 6 mins ago, generated page

14:37 TR News; Coming up next: 2222 Gemini capsules. Maybe today or tomorrow.

14:38 TR News; "Idiot's guide to OpenBSD on the Pinebook Pro, FreeBSD Periodic Scripts, history of service management in Unix, journey from macOS to FreeBSD, Unix processes infecting each other, navidrom music server on FreeBSD, and more." https://www.bsdnow.tv/445

14:38 TR Bot; BSD Now 445: Journey to BSD

14:39 TR News; "I Love Free Software Day": Free Software games and a SharePic generator https://fsfe.org/news/2022/news-20220310-01.en.html FSFE does not value freedom though; it just stole the FSF's rhetoric to raise money for its staff http://techrights.org/2021/12/22/fsfe-censorship/

14:39 TR Bot; "I Love Free Software Day": Free Software games and a SharePic generator - FSFE

14:39 TR Bot; FSFE Misuses FSFE Budget to Issue Frivolous Takedown Requests Against Critics | Techrights

14:40 TR News; "Another guide for you today. For those of you who want to use the EA App on the Steam Deck (or a Linux desktop!), here's one of the possible ways to do it using Bottles." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/heres-how-to-get-the-ea-app-on-steam-deck-with-bottles

14:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/heres-how-to-get-the-ea-app-on-steam-deck-with-bottles

14:40 TR Bot; how to get the EA App on Steam Deck with Bottles | GamingOnLinux

14:41 TR News; Blender 3.1 is out with better performance, new advanced features http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162339#comment-33018

14:41 TR Bot; Blender 3.1 Released with Lots of Performance Improvements, Other Changes | Tux Machines

14:42 TR News; "Stadia is something we don't really talk about here too much now, as Google has let it slide considerably from the original aim but it's still going and it seems Google still has some interesting plans for it." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/google-plans-their-own-version-of-wine-to-run-windows-games-on-stadia

14:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/google-plans-their-own-version-of-wine-to-run-windows-games-on-stadia

14:42 TR Bot; plans their own version of Wine to run Windows games on Stadia | GamingOnLinux

14:44 TR News; Mesa drivers version 22.0 out now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162350#comment-33019

14:44 TR Bot; Mesa 22.0 Officially Released, Brings Vulkan 1.3 and Improves Support for Many Games | Tux Machines

14:46 TR News; A Microsoft-infiltrated OSI (Microsoft has in fact helped Vladimir Putin) flexes its muscles by basically watering down the Open Source Definition (OSD) and giving a platform to known trolls, whose goal is to undermine the Freedom of Free software (to impose their worldviews on others) https://fsfe.org/news/2022/news-20220310-01.en.html

14:51 TR News; Clown Savvy pushing Microsoft proprietary software :/ https://www.cloudsavvyit.com/15585/how-to-setup-vs-code-to-be-portable/

14:51 TR Bot; How to Setup VS Code to Be Portable CloudSavvy IT

14:52 TR News; There's no need for Firefox anymore. LibreWolf is better. Distros should replace Mozilla with this, by default... https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-librewolf-browser-on-fedora-36-linux

14:52 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxcapable.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-librewolf-browser-on-fedora-36-linux

14:52 TR Bot; to Install LibreWolf Browser on Fedora 36 Linux - LinuxCapable

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14:54 TR News; DigitalOcean can be a bit of a SPAM machine. Someone invites you to it, supplies your email address, and soon they bombard you with marketing junk you never opted IN to.

14:56 TR News; KDE Plasma 5.24 Review. A Crafted Desktop to Dominate the Linux World Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162384

14:56 TR Bot; KDE Plasma 5.24 Review. A Crafted Desktop to Dominate the Linux World | Tux Machines

14:56 TR News; Games: I Love Free Software Day, Bottles, and Stadia Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162385

14:56 TR Bot; Games: I Love Free Software Day, Bottles, and Stadia | Tux Machines

14:58 XRevan86; psydroid2: https://t.me/uniannet/37134

14:58 TR Bot; Telegram: Contact @uniannet

14:59 TR News; Bruce Schneier promotes attention-shifting Microsoft propaganda now; Microsoft is the culprit, not the solution solver https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/wheres-the-russia-ukraine-cyberwar.html

14:59 TR Bot; the Russia-Ukraine Cyberwar? - Schneier on Security

14:59 SomeH4x0r; Steam did cancel Russian. A glitch made Russian being unable to play certain games for a while.

14:59 SomeH4x0r; Do not forgive, do not forget

3 PM, March 10

15:00 SomeH4x0r; "First they came..." for the Russian

15:00 SomeH4x0r; GTFO the platform

15:00 schestowitz-TR2; GIGO

15:00 Techrights-sec; Yes, Bruce has not been on top of things for a few years, around the Snowden

15:00 Techrights-sec; time. It was around then he suddenly changed his tune and started doing the

15:00 Techrights-sec; M$ apologist thing.

15:02 psydroid2; XRevan86, how to go forward from here

15:03 TR News; Bezos-owned propaganda rag suggests blocking propaganda rags of Russian oligarchs and Putin. Spot the irony. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/10/internet-russia-sanctions-proposal/

15:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/10/internet-russia-sanctions-proposal/

15:03 TR Bot; New proposal on Russia Internet sanctions - The Washington Post

15:03 XRevan86; psydroid2: Can ye be more specific?

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15:04 TR News; Bangladesh: Draft BTRC regulations to restrict freedom of expression: 45 intl orgs https://www.newagebd.net/article/164868/draft-btrc-regulations-to-restrict-freedom-of-expression-45-intl-orgs

15:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: newagebd.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.newagebd.net/article/164868/draft-btrc-regulations-to-restrict-freedom-of-expression-45-intl-orgs

15:04 TR Bot; Draft BTRC regulations to restrict freedom of expression: 45 intl orgs

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15:04 schestowitz-TR2; XRevan86: sorry to see the collective punishment

15:04 schestowitz-TR2; ugly stuff

15:04 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162386

15:04 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

15:05 schestowitz-TR2; "Y U BORN IN RUSSIA!!"

15:05 activelow; how different are Russian and Ukrainian language?

15:05 activelow; i always considered those close relatives, closer than Dutch and German, almost indistinguishable

15:06 XRevan86; activelow: To you they're both German anyway.

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15:06 activelow; XRevan86: i can read kyrillic script, sadly didn't practice it :(

15:06 psydroid2; XRevan86, all the lives that are lost and the years it will take to rebuild the country after all these bombings

15:07 schestowitz-TR2; many talented Ukrainians won't be coming back

15:07 schestowitz-TR2; to rebuild the country and its economy

15:07 schestowitz-TR2; it's likle hungary

15:07 activelow; men stayed

15:07 psydroid2; I wanted to say it looks like "nuclear winter" has arrived

15:08 schestowitz-TR2; there's no nuclear winner

15:08 schestowitz-TR2; only "winter"

15:08 activelow; temperatures dropped, significantly, since corona and the ukraine spook

15:09 schestowitz-TR2; i think you misunderstand nuclear winter?

15:09 schestowitz-TR2; it's not happening due to some invisible thing

15:09 schestowitz-TR2; even a large volcanic eruption can cause it

15:09 XRevan86; psydroid2: Ah, yes, and all that on a whim.

15:10 activelow; the principle is huge economies are taken down however accomplished, and temperatures drop, for various reasons

15:11 XRevan86; activelow: The man speaks Polish, the subtitles are in Ukrainian, the text is in Russian.

15:12 activelow; since recently, the president is now addressed as "Dictator Putin" in german media, or the Despot

15:13 XRevan86; Sounds accurate.

15:13 psydroid2; I don't know why but I can't hear any sound

15:14 psydroid2; oh, now I can

15:14 psydroid2; it was muted

15:14 psydroid2; are there Polish people there to help?

15:15 psydroid2; now I get it, I watched the video after that one

15:16 activelow; anyway, Ukraine isn't a tiny little country, 40million inhabitants, heavy industry, and once the most wealthy region of soviet union i read somewhere

15:16 activelow; and, i somehow admire the Antonov aircraft, which was an attraction when landing on german airports

15:16 activelow; same with the Akademik Lomonosov and similar

15:18 activelow; meanwhile cannot listen to "EU" apparatschiks anymore without vodka intoxication

15:18 activelow; besides, it was *both*, Ukraine *and* Russia who supplied European "market", with raw materials, energy, and machinery...

15:18 activelow; german automotive already noticed

15:21 activelow; currently it's the Ukrainian pipeline affected, not the Russian one, and although the russian pipeline is operating at max. capacity, energy prices sky-rocket

15:21 activelow; even when, supposedly, russians weren't involved, since USA energy market supposedly didn't depend on it

15:22 activelow; hence, i have a theory here, which is Russians supplied for very low prices, and "re-sellers" capitalized upon this

15:22 activelow; now, since banking is in lock-down, and sanctions, those "re-sellers" are affected, which shouldn't have been because those officially didn't rely on Russian energy supplies

15:23 activelow; for the sake of it, German government had put this to test, by ordering Oil/Gas for 1.5Billion at the "European energy trading hub", which is ludicrous

15:23 XRevan86; psydroid2: The Polish people are helping of course.

15:25 TR News; IP67-protected panel PCs run Linux on i.MX8M Mini Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162387

15:25 TR Bot; IP67-protected panel PCs run Linux on i.MX8M Mini | Tux Machines

15:25 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162388

15:25 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

15:26 activelow; instead they are blaming "dictator putin" now, who responded russia complied with all contracts and continued delivery, however this "EU" "re-selling" business on the "liberalized energy market" seems to struggle

15:28 activelow; in parallel, whoever operated pipeline infrastructure for re-selling, ignites propaganda, including launching rockets at nuclear facilities

15:28 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/forests

15:28 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Forests

15:28 activelow; yet, the banking is in lock-down, preventing to place some long or short-selling orders at this "european energy hub"

15:29 schestowitz-TR2; url?

15:29 activelow; the russian price for energy is 20Euros/MWh ... i think "EU" apparatschiks may do the remaining math, what the trading surplus is

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15:30 activelow; it's a surplus margin something in between 90% and 99%, plus excess taxation on top

15:31 TR News; Red Hat Summit 2022 registration is now open https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-summit-2022-registration-now-open but will IBM Red Hat actually USE "open source"??? http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/state-of-proprietary-software/

15:31 TR Bot; Red Hat Summit 2022 registration is now open

15:31 TR Bot; Red Hats State of Enterprise Open Source Report Made on an Apple Mac Using Proprietary Software | Techrights

15:32 TR News; "Prioritize constant upskilling" = abandon what generally works in favour of buzzwords, hype, and complexity that gets abandoned within a few years or less than a year https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/employee-development-programs

15:32 TR Bot; IT leadership: 3 strategies to build employee development programs | The Enterprisers Project

15:32 activelow; ExxonMobile, Shell, Burisma, left Ukraine, because sanctions they say

15:33 activelow; now they say, it's the "green deal"

15:33 TR News; ...Like Red Hat boosting Microsoft stuff... https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/10/kafka-monthly-digest-february-2022

15:33 TR Bot; Kafka Monthly Digest: February 2022 | Red Hat Developer

15:34 activelow; anyway, i do not believe Russian Air Force was willing to drop payload in Ukraine

15:34 TR News; No, you do not need RHEL for Perl and SPAN. IBM Red Hat is upselling commodities https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/10/modular-perl-red-hat-enterprise-linux-8

15:34 TR Bot; Modular Perl in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 | Red Hat Developer

15:34 activelow; and the type of housing hit, this was destructed in east germany i might add, without heavy tanks

15:35 activelow; burning tires

15:36 activelow; anyway, USA seeked to capitalize upon this, by "providing lethal aid to Ukraine", let's pray for them the favor isn't returned

15:36 TR News; "Are you ready to experiment with Kafka? Get started in minutes with a no-cost Kafka service trial." Same vocabulary as proprietary software vendors. https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/10/which-better-single-kafka-cluster-rule-them-all-or-many

15:36 TR Bot; Which is better: A single Kafka cluster to rule them all, or many? | Red Hat Developer

15:36 activelow; recently, NATO denied Ukraine pilots received their MiG29

15:37 activelow; which is another remarkable twist

15:37 TR News; After incompetent IBM managers, who know nothing about the community, managed to drive away almost all the Fedora volunteers along with users... https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/fedora_inches_closer_to_dropping/

15:37 TR Bot; Tip of the hat: Fedora closing in on dropping x86-32 support The Register

15:37 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/fedora_inches_closer_to_dropping/

15:38 TR News; More GNU than Linux, but the media trained people to just call everything "Linux" if it's not Microsoft https://medium.com/techtofreedom/3-ways-to-save-terminal-output-to-files-in-linux-650ae0dde3da?

15:38 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://medium.com/techtofreedom/3-ways-to-save-terminal-output-to-files-in-linux-650ae0dde3da )

15:38 Alternative link; Cloudflare: medium.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medium.com/techtofreedom/3-ways-to-save-terminal-output-to-files-in-linux-650ae0dde3da?

15:39 TR News; Solaris-based SmartOS 20220310 is out http://smartos.org/

15:39 TR Bot; Joyent

15:40 activelow; of cause, Ms. Harris Kamala had to stick to the plot, whining about a Hospital hit by evil russians, asking for more sanctions

15:40 activelow; Lawrow a moment ago following along the typical USA "ideology", De-Nazification was followed

15:41 activelow; because, this is the exact same type of propaganda common in Germany, fueled against AfD political party

15:41 TR News; Beyond sanctions: what the tech sector can do to respect human rights https://www.accessnow.org/russia-ukraine-sanctions/ what NOT to do: collective punishment http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/state-of-proprietary-software/

15:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/russia-ukraine-sanctions/

15:41 TR Bot; Beyond sanctions: what the tech sector can do to respect human rights

15:41 activelow; and "Dictator Putin" is citing from this catechism with every opportunity he got

15:42 TR News; "Collective punishment is a punishment or sanction imposed on a group for acts allegedly perpetrated by a member of that group, which could be an ethnic or political group, or just the family, friends and neighbors of the perpetrator." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_punishment

15:42 TR Bot; Collective punishment - Wikipedia

15:42 activelow; the Soviet-German cooperation pre-dates "EU" for decades btw.; beginning in 1970s

15:42 TR News; Civil society to U.S. government: Do not disrupt internet access in Russia or Belarus - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/us-government-internet-access-russia-ukraine-war-sanctions/ Should be obvious. Sad that it needs to even be said. http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/breaking-internet/

15:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/us-government-internet-access-russia-ukraine-war-sanctions/

15:42 TR Bot; Civil society to U.S. government: Do not disrupt internet access in Russia or Belarus - Access Now

15:43 TR Bot; The Internet is Breaking and We Need Contingencies | Techrights

15:43 TR News; Michael Larabel gift gallery on display https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.17-Features see also http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/

15:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.17-Features

15:43 TR Bot; Most Interesting New Features Of Linux 5.17 - Intel & AMD Continue With Big Changes - Phoronix

15:43 TR Bot; When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights

15:44 psydroid2; XRevan86, I meant all the way in Donetsk

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15:44 TR News; Beer glasses beneath the gifts https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=2022&image=linux_517_lrg

15:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=2022&image=linux_517_lrg

15:44 TR Bot; Image (Linux 517)

15:45 schestowitz-TR2; psydroid2: salut

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15:45 activelow; East-Germany too operated MiG29, which is a matter of national pride, i think

15:46 activelow; an Austrian "Oligarch", of RedBull, he restored some old MiG17, because of so

15:46 TR News; India: Calcutta HC stays internet shutdown issued by West Bengal https://internetfreedom.in/calcutta-hc-stays-internet-shutdown-issued-by-west-bengal-government/

15:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/calcutta-hc-stays-internet-shutdown-issued-by-west-bengal-government/

15:46 TR Bot; Calcutta HC stays internet shutdown issued by West Bengal

15:47 activelow; sadly, RedBull Leipzig didn't confront Spartak Moscow... of cause there is more important issues currently

15:47 activelow; the match in Sankt Petersburg was terminated

15:48 activelow; soccer club S04, west-germany, removed the Gazprom sponsor label from their shirts... expensive to say the least

15:48 schestowitz-TR2; Sankt Petersburg

15:49 schestowitz-TR2; makes it sound like Nazi Germany did capture Leningrad

15:49 schestowitz-TR2; chelsea has not been sanctioned quite badly

15:49 activelow; no, it is Austrians who operate the RedBull soccer business in Leipzig, which is disputed occasionally, although i remain neutral

15:49 schestowitz-TR2; no player transfer, cannot sell match tickets etc.

15:50 schestowitz-TR2; they should rebrand as "Red"

15:51 schestowitz-TR2; the speculation was, chelsea FC was owned by putin by proxy

15:51 schestowitz-TR2; to give him more clout in london area

15:51 schestowitz-TR2; in manchester it's uea and amnhattan

15:51 schestowitz-TR2; *uae

15:51 schestowitz-TR2; newcastle ksa, leicester thailand

15:52 schestowitz-TR2; our football clubs here became like colonies for oligarchs from around the globe

15:53 TR News; "Browser maker Brave has developed a new way to ground "bounce tracking," a sneaky technique for bypassing privacy defenses in order to track people across different websites." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/brave_bounce_tracking/

15:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/brave_bounce_tracking/

15:53 TR Bot; Brave browser to tackle 'bounce tracking' The Register

15:54 TR News; Hard not to feel like LF money for this project has led him to shill other (bad stuff) from LF https://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2022/03/10/firmware-software-bill-of-materials/

15:54 TR Bot; Firmware Software Bill of Materials Technical Blog of Richard Hughes

15:55 TR News; Michael Larabel "influence" from AMD, brochure for "public use" https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Linux-UAI-Zen-4-Tagging

15:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Linux-UAI-Zen-4-Tagging

15:55 TR Bot; Posts New Linux Code For Zen 4's UAI Feature - Phoronix

15:56 activelow; the important sports clubs are the smaller amateur ones, with offerings for children and families

15:57 activelow; which is reason enough, to put the big soccer spectactle onto /ignore

15:58 MinceR; 10 164907 < schestowitz-TR2> makes it sound like Nazi Germany did capture Leningrad

15:58 MinceR; Peter the Great was a fan of westernizing russia

15:58 MinceR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Petersburg#Etymology

15:58 TR Bot; Saint Petersburg - Wikipedia

15:59 TR News; IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162389

15:59 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines

4 PM, March 10

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16:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 45.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.69

16:11 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 45.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.69

16:16 ebin; schestowitz: inspired by one of your recent gemini videos i have decided to build a worldwide weather capsule https://x0.at/IAfi.png

16:16 ebin; it's built on top of the jetforce python gemini server

16:18 ebin; it's not online yet

16:41 SomeH4x0r; why are three bans set on this channel for months?

5 PM, March 10

17:04 activelow; "'the west' had imposed sanctions anyway", the dictator, end quote.

17:21 activelow; question, did Ukraine dismantle all their ABC weapons stockpiles?

17:22 activelow; what did westinghouse electric fiddle inside Ukrainian nuclear plants?

17:23 activelow; capital city Kiev evacuated 50% of their population, which seems to be women and children

17:24 TR News; 8 serious vulnerabilities n Siemens stuff reported today by CISA. But it's not "LINUX", so don't expect media to mention these...

17:25 TR News; Ubuntu-Based Zorin OS 16.1 Released with LibreOffice 7.3 and Linux Kernel 5.13 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162390

17:25 TR Bot; Ubuntu-Based Zorin OS 16.1 Released with LibreOffice 7.3 and Linux Kernel 5.13 | Tux Machines

17:26 schestowitz-TR2; ebin: excellent, nice

17:27 schestowitz-TR2; SomeH4x0r: good question, I cannot even recall

17:27 schestowitz-TR2; must be actual spammers

17:28 SomeH4x0r; a ban must be active only when it is still relevant

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; yes

17:28 SomeH4x0r; lalbornoz is no longer active

17:29 SomeH4x0r; the other ones... probably no longer active either?

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17:30 *schestowitz removes ban on m:*!*@ajm54sra9b86c.irc

17:30 *schestowitz removes ban on m:*!~68f41a5?@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc

17:30 *schestowitz removes ban on lalbornoz!*@*

17:31 schestowitz; done

17:31 schestowitz; empty

17:31 SomeH4x0r; good

17:31 schestowitz; been almost a year

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17:31 SomeH4x0r; I don't like many modern inventions on IRC

17:31 SomeH4x0r; the cloaks make it difficult to remember who is who

17:32 SomeH4x0r; some servers also hide the username

17:32 TR News; "Bash is the default shell in the majority of Linux distributions, and it has countless features and tricks to make you more efficient. Bash keeps a history of the commands you've typed at the prompt, but most people aren't aware of additional functionality that the history provides you." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Odo6leOY5Fw

17:32 TR Bot; Linux Essentials - Bash History - Invidious

17:32 schestowitz-TR2; [17:31] <SomeH4x0r> I don't like many modern inventions on IRC

17:32 schestowitz-TR2; you are 17

17:32 schestowitz-TR2; when did you start 17

17:32 schestowitz-TR2; when did you start IRC

17:32 schestowitz-TR2; what what is "modern" to you?

17:33 SomeH4x0r; 2021-06-03; can't remember

17:33 schestowitz-TR2; I used IRC 10 years before you were born

17:33 SomeH4x0r; "de-facto standard" services are not needed. ChanFix would be enough.

17:34 SomeH4x0r; I hate ergo ircd, but fortunately it is not mainstream yet. Afaik most use UnrealIRCd+Anope

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17:35 SomeH4x0r; I think channel bans should be unset on server restart

17:35 TR News; You know Twitter jumped the shark when... https://www.maketecheasier.com/shopping-social-with-twitter-shops/

17:35 TR Bot; Shopping Gets More Social with Twitter Shops - Make Tech Easier

17:36 SomeH4x0r; I *don't* want social shopping

17:36 SomeH4x0r; shopping should be done *alone*, only looking at shopping list written in advance

17:36 TR News; 379 - There Can Be Only One - mintCast https://mintcast.org/2022/03/10/379-there-can-be-only-one/

17:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mintcast.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mintcast.org/2022/03/10/379-there-can-be-only-one/

17:36 TR Bot; 379 There Can Be Only One mintCast

17:36 SomeH4x0r; otherwise money might be wasted

17:37 schestowitz-TR2; yeah

17:38 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show an overview of XeroLinux 2022.03.06 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8QUjc2TldoY

17:38 TR Bot; XeroLinux 2022.03.06 overview | An "Eyecandy" lover's wet dream. - Invidious

17:39 TR News; "explosive adoption of Linux at AMD" https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147857/linux-action-news-231/

17:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147857/linux-action-news-231/

17:39 TR Bot; Linux Action News 231 | Jupiter Broadcasting

17:41 schestowitz-TR2; SomeH4x0r: more people your age need to think that way

17:41 schestowitz-TR2; as some people buy expensive things they don't need just to impress people who dislike them and anvy them

17:41 schestowitz-TR2; FB and other social control media crap reinforces this

17:42 schestowitz-TR2; shopping just to "keep up appearance"

17:42 SomeH4x0r; I hardly ever socialize irl

17:47 TR News; Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Action News, mintCast, BSD Now, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162391

17:47 TR Bot; Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Action News, mintCast, BSD Now, and More | Tux Machines

17:49 TR News; Latest Firefox Relay includes bigger attachment size and filters for promotional emails https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/latest-firefox-relay-includes-bigger-attachment-size-and-filters-for-promotional-emails/

17:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/latest-firefox-relay-includes-bigger-attachment-size-and-filters-for-promotional-emails/

17:49 TR Bot; Latest Firefox Relay includes bigger attachment size and filters for promotional emails

17:51 TR News; Crown of Pain could turn into the next great match-3 RPG | GamingOnLinux <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/crown-of-pain-could-turn-into-the-next-great-match-3-rpg/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this artic

17:51 TR Bot; of Pain could turn into the next great match-3 RPG | GamingOnLinux

17:53 TR News; "As a debut game from Latvia-based solo dev Jagit Games it's good." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/crown-of-pain-could-turn-into-the-next-great-match-3-rpg/

17:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/crown-of-pain-could-turn-into-the-next-great-match-3-rpg/

17:53 TR News; Zorin OS 16.1 is Here, Creators to Donate All Profits from Zorin OS Pro to Aid Ukraine Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162392

17:53 TR Bot; Zorin OS 16.1 is Here, Creators to Donate All Profits from Zorin OS Pro to Aid Ukraine | Tux Machines

17:56 TR News; Ubuntu-Based Zorin OS 16.1 Released with LibreOffice 7.3 and Linux Kernel 5.13 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162390

17:56 TR Bot; Ubuntu-Based Zorin OS 16.1 Released with LibreOffice 7.3 and Linux Kernel 5.13 | Tux Machines

17:57 TR News; Games: Netherguild, Crown of Pain, and Atmospheric Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162393

17:57 TR Bot; Games: Netherguild, Crown of Pain, and Atmospheric | Tux Machines

17:59 MinceR; 10 182746 < schestowitz-TR2> must be actual spammers

17:59 TR News; Zorin OS 16.1 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162392#comment-33020

17:59 TR Bot; Zorin OS 16.1 is Here, Creators to Donate All Profits from Zorin OS Pro to Aid Ukraine | Tux Machines

17:59 MinceR; one was a spam bot, the mutes were for the MICROS~1/gulag/ibm shill

6 PM, March 10

18:00 schestowitz-TR2; who quit coding iirc

18:00 schestowitz-TR2; wasn't good at it

18:01 schestowitz-TR2; gnu/linux needs engineers

18:01 schestowitz-TR2; not social engineers

18:01 MinceR; or a successor

18:01 schestowitz-TR2; ebin makes a weather capsule now

18:01 schestowitz-TR2; one more thing I can do over gemini://

18:02 schestowitz-TR2; curl wttr.in uses http transport

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18:03 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162394

18:03 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

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18:04 TR News; Russias digital iron curtain will fail https://www.ft.com/content/26e88a2b-c7ba-46c7-8191-490188f4757b says Western oligarchs-funded publisher

18:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ft.com/content/26e88a2b-c7ba-46c7-8191-490188f4757b

18:04 TR Bot; Subscribe to read | Financial Times

18:05 TR News; Notice in Lumen reveals that EU mandated removal of Russian state-sponsored news from Google's search engine https://www.lumendatabase.org/blog_entries/notice-in-lumen-reveals-that-eu-mandated-removal-of-russian-state-sponsored-news-from-googles-search-engine disinformation is a monopoly now

18:05 TR Bot;

18:05 TR News; Bezos-owned disinformation rag https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/10/human-rights-groups-warn-that-more-sanctions-could-hurt-russian-internet-access/

18:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/10/human-rights-groups-warn-that-more-sanctions-could-hurt-russian-internet-access/

18:05 TR Bot; Human rights groups warn that more sanctions could hurt Russian Internet access - The Washington Post

18:06 TR News; Joseph Stalin Biden warned https://www.politico.com/newsletters/morning-tech/2022/03/10/biden-warned-against-blocking-internet-in-russia-00015994

18:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: politico.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.politico.com/newsletters/morning-tech/2022/03/10/biden-warned-against-blocking-internet-in-russia-00015994

18:06 TR Bot; warned against blocking internet in Russia- POLITICO

18:07 TR News; Politico was sold to German oligarchy months ago

18:07 ebin; thankfully there's a free to use api that provides global weather data as long as you credit them. i'm not sure how accurate it is

18:07 TR News; The Internet is another casualty of the war in Ukraine http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/breaking-internet/

18:07 TR Bot; The Internet is Breaking and We Need Contingencies | Techrights

18:08 TR News; Dr. Klaus Schwab or: How the CFR Taught Me to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/03/investigative-reports/dr-klaus-schwab-or-how-the-cfr-taught-me-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb/

18:08 Alternative link; Cloudflare: unlimitedhangout.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/03/investigative-reports/dr-klaus-schwab-or-how-the-cfr-taught-me-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb/

18:08 TR Bot; Dr. Klaus Schwab or: How the CFR Taught Me to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

18:09 TR News; UK based GNU/Linux distro KDE neon 20220310 is out https://neon.kde.org/

18:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: kde.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://neon.kde.org/

18:09 TR Bot; KDE neon

18:09 schestowitz-TR2; ebin: they all suck

18:09 schestowitz-TR2; some suck more

18:09 schestowitz-TR2; the supplier of billBC has been terribly inaccurate lately

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; iirc, they changed suppliers years ago, maybe 5 years ago

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; 5g further damages the operations of weather baloons

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; I think by overlapping their spectrum

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18:20 TR News; Excellent Free Books to Master Programming - LinuxLinks <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-programming-books/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>

18:20 TR Bot; Free Books to Master Programming - LinuxLinks

18:21 TR News; But such literally will make you enslaved by proprietary software :/ https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-books-learn-qml/

18:21 TR Bot; Free Books to Learn QML - LinuxLinks

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18:25 TR News; Worthless diploma mills https://www.fosslife.org/tech-certifications-surge-popularity see http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/lf-diploma-mill-and-narrative-control-by-fake-research/

18:25 TR Bot; Tech Certifications Surge in Popularity

18:25 TR Bot; Linux Foundation and Other Diploma Mills Say Theres Demand for Their Products in Their New Research (Marketing) | Techrights

18:25 TR News; Taking it step by step: An update on the Fairphone True Wireless Earbuds Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162396

18:25 TR Bot; Taking it step by step: An update on the Fairphone True Wireless Earbuds | Tux Machines

18:26 TR News; "Hello! A couple of days I wrote about tiny personal programs, and I mentioned that it can be fun to use secret undocumented APIs where you need to copy your cookies out of the browser to get access to them." https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/03/10/how-to-use-undocumented-web-apis/

18:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: jvns.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/03/10/how-to-use-undocumented-web-apis/

18:26 TR Bot; How to use undocumented web APIs

18:27 TR News; TOP 5 Linux OS For Old Computers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162397

18:27 TR Bot; TOP 5 Linux OS For Old Computers | Tux Machines

18:28 TR News; Simon Sharwood shilling bad, malicious, lying, scummy actors from VMware https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/vmware_home_lab_specifications/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/VMware#2022 and http://techrights.org/wiki/VMware#2020

18:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/vmware_home_lab_specifications/

18:28 TR Bot; VMware offers hardware compatibility list for home labs The Register

18:28 TR Bot; VMware - Techrights

18:28 TR Bot; VMware - Techrights

18:29 TR News; All-In-One Indoor Air Quality Monitor With CO2 Sensor - The DIY Life https://www.the-diy-life.com/all-in-one-indoor-air-quality-monitor-with-co2-sensor/

18:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: the-diy-life.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.the-diy-life.com/all-in-one-indoor-air-quality-monitor-with-co2-sensor/

18:29 TR Bot; All-In-One Indoor Air Quality Monitor With CO2 Sensor - The DIY Life

18:30 TR News; "Linux Ubuntu PC"... sounds... strange https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/qnap-quad-port-sata-6gbs-expansion-card-10-03-2022/

18:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: geeky-gadgets.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/qnap-quad-port-sata-6gbs-expansion-card-10-03-2022/

18:30 TR Bot; QNAP Quad-port SATA 6Gbs expansion card now available - Geeky Gadgets

18:34 TR News; "Fix/clean up the DRRS code sufficiently that I feel comfortable enabling it on all ilk+ CPU eDP ports. PCH ports still need a bit of work." https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2022-March/292211.html

18:34 TR Bot; [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 00/13] drm/i915: DRRS fixes/cleanups and start of static DRRS

18:36 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-067-01 "ATTENTION: Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity... Axeda Desktop Server for Windows: All versions" http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/

18:36 TR Bot; PTC Axeda agent and Axeda Desktop Server (Update A) | CISA

18:36 TR Bot; Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights

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18:37 TR News; "As explained in my previous post, we do have some features already in mind for syslog-ng 4, even though the work on creating a long term set of objectives for the syslog-ng project is not finished yet. One of the themes I that I have working code for already, is typing." https://syslog-ng-future.blog/syslog-ng-4-theme-typing/

18:37 TR Bot; 4 theme: typing - syslog-ng-future.blog

18:38 TR News; Use std::hypot for Pythagorean Addition EasyHack https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2022/03/10/use-stdhypot-for-pythagorean-addition-easyhack/

18:38 TR Bot; Use std::hypot for Pythagorean Addition - EasyHack - LibreOffice Development Blog

18:38 TR News; MorphOS 3.16 - Public Release Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162398

18:38 TR Bot; MorphOS 3.16 - Public Release | Tux Machines

18:41 TR News; "There seems to be a technical problem, that is not possible to make SATA controllers NVMe compatible." https://dwaves.de/2022/03/10/the-late-revenge-of-sas-only-sas-controllers-can-be-upgraded-with-kingstons-nvme-ssds-nvme-upgrading-old-severs/

18:41 TR Bot; the late REVENGE of SAS: only SAS controllers can be upgraded with Kingstons NVMe SSDs NVMe upgrading old severs | dwaves.de

18:42 TR News; "This is my fourth status update for Season of KDE 2022." Flirting with Microsoft proprietary software... not good https://snehit.dev/posts/kde/sok-2022/fedc-and-update-automation/

18:42 TR Bot; Status update: FEDC and Update Automation - post #4

18:44 TR News; 'Newbs' bring a new cost to projects by adding Microsoft dependencies to them. This should be kept under control. It can do more damage than actually help projects.

18:45 TR News; "'Newbs' bring a new cost to projects by adding Microsoft dependencies to them. This should be kept under control. It can do more damage than actually help projects." Did you CEO mention he flew to space with the Russians? https://ubuntu.com//blog/deep-work-in-interesting-times

18:45 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/deep-work-in-interesting-times

18:45 TR Bot; work in interesting times | Ubuntu

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18:54 TR News; "The affected product is vulnerable to improper restriction of authentication attempts, which may allow an unauthenticated threat actor to efficiently brute force passwords in certain situations." Proprietary crap. https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-069-04

18:54 TR Bot; Siemens SINEMA Mendix Forgot Password Appstore | CISA

18:57 TR News; CISA does not mention Windows when it's Microsoft Windows but rushes to name "Linux" to darken its name if there's something bad to say http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162251#comment-33021 see http://techrights.org/2022/03/08/a-media-of-masturbating-monkeys/

18:57 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

18:57 TR Bot; This is the Medias Equivalent of What Linus Torvalds Called Masturbating Monkeys | Techrights

18:59 TR News; Zorin OS 16.1 Released & Support for Ukraine http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162392#comment-33022

18:59 TR Bot; Zorin OS 16.1 is Here, Creators to Donate All Profits from Zorin OS Pro to Aid Ukraine | Tux Machines

7 PM, March 10

19:05 TR News; How to Use the Nessus Vulnerability Scanner on GNU/Linux https://www.maketecheasier.com/use-nessus-vulnerability-scanner-linux/

19:05 TR Bot; How to Use the Nessus Vulnerability Scanner on Linux - Make Tech Easier

19:14 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162399

19:14 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

19:14 TR News; Long live multicursors - Kate Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162400

19:14 TR Bot; Long live multicursors - Kate | Tux Machines

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19:24 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22030546

19:24 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/o34ppx8wyzk81.jpg created on 2022-03-05 23:23:08.044609

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19:28 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162401

19:28 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines

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19:31 TR News; IBM/Red Hat acting like a Pariah company, telling people to outsource to surveillance giants instead of actually managing their own systems. This makes one wonder who or what Red Hat even stands for. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/why-use-cloud-services

19:31 TR Bot; Why use cloud services instead of self-managed infrastructure?

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19:51 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding: Fumik/Arduino, Picovoice, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162402

19:51 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: Fumik/Arduino, Picovoice, and More | Tux Machines

19:54 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-trees

19:54 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Trees

8 PM, March 10

20:09 TR News; Clown Computing, Web APIs, and Web Browsers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162403

20:09 TR Bot; 'Clown' Computing, Web APIs, and Web Browsers | Tux Machines

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20:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.73

20:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.73

20:11 TR News; Links 10/3/2022: Zorin OS 16.1 and MorphOS 3.16 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/morphos-3-16/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/10/morphos-3-16/

20:11 TR Bot; Links 10/3/2022: Zorin OS 16.1 and MorphOS 3.16 | Techrights

20:13 TR News; Yes, the criminals from Microsoft still hate and cannot tolerate Linux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/windows-drivers-roll-out-for-steam-deck-but-valve-wont-support-it

20:13 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/windows-drivers-roll-out-for-steam-deck-but-valve-wont-support-it

20:13 TR Bot; drivers roll out for Steam Deck but Valve won't support it | GamingOnLinux

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20:15 TR News; "The Linux Experiment" is shilling surveillance trap Startpage while attacking RMS and the FSF https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sykj6gxdGxw the shilling experiment http://techrights.org/wiki/Startpage

20:15 TR Bot; Apex Legends on Linux, Major Linux vulnerability, and Stadia could run Windows games? - Invidious

20:15 TR Bot; Startpage - Techrights

20:16 TR News; #gulag has become a "get rich fast" scheme/delusion to millions. And it shows... http://techrights.org/2022/02/15/youtube-spam-rewarding-junk/

20:16 TR Bot; YouTube is Becoming Mostly SPAM | Techrights

20:17 TR News; <li><h5><a href="http://layer-acht.org/thinking/blog/20220310-Debian-Reunion-Hamburg-2022/">Holger Levsen: 20220310-Debian-Reunion-Hamburg-2022</a></h5>

20:17 TR Bot; 20220310-Debian-Reunion-Hamburg-2022

20:17 TR News; Holger Levsen: 20220310-Debian-Reunion-Hamburg-2022 http://layer-acht.org/thinking/blog/20220310-Debian-Reunion-Hamburg-2022/

20:18 TR News; ClownFoundry vs Kubernetes: Which Clown Platform Should You Choose? - CloudSavvy IT https://www.cloudsavvyit.com/15629/cloudfoundry-vs-kubernetes-which-cloud-platform-should-you-choose/

20:18 TR Bot; CloudFoundry vs Kubernetes: Which Cloud Platform Should You Choose? CloudSavvy IT

20:22 TR News; IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 164 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162404

20:22 TR Bot; IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 164 released | Tux Machines

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20:23 bnchs; hello

20:26 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/abstinence

20:26 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Abstinence

20:26 TR News; Become A #Tor Snowflake And Fight Censorship - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FmaUvqfiN8E

20:26 TR Bot; Become A Tor Snowflake And Fight Censorship - Invidious

20:27 bnchs; they will rename pudding to something else because it resembles the name "putin"

20:27 bnchs; vladimer pudding

20:27 MinceR; lol

20:28 psydroid4; polymer pudding

20:28 bnchs; it "fits" with how fat he become

20:30 TR News; The media likes to make it sound like Linux is the worst http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162251#comment-33025 see http://techrights.org/2022/03/08/a-media-of-masturbating-monkeys/

20:30 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

20:30 TR Bot; This is the Medias Equivalent of What Linus Torvalds Called Masturbating Monkeys | Techrights

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20:32 TR News; FreeBSD 13.1-BETA1 is out but I cannot yet find the message in the WWW archives https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-announce/2022-March/index.html

20:32 TR Bot; freebsd-announce: Project Announcements [moderated]: by thread

20:33 bnchs; i like to treat security vulnerabilites as mistakes

20:33 bnchs; as long as they get fixed in time

20:38 TR News; Microsoft proxies like Black Duck were being the attacks on Linux through the 'Linux' Foundation, spreading FUD for Microsoft https://www.synopsys.com/blogs/software-security/census-2-free-and-open-source-software-report/ 'Linux' Foundation = Microsoft front group http://techrights.org/2022/03/07/marketing-with-microsoft-npm/

20:38 Alternative link; Cloudflare: synopsys.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.synopsys.com/blogs/software-security/census-2-free-and-open-source-software-report/

20:38 TR Bot; contributes to the Linux Foundation Census II of the most widely used open source application libraries | Synopsys

20:38 TR Bot; The Studies of Linux Foundation Research Based on Data From Microsoft and Experts in Adobe, Not Open Source | Techrights

20:38 TR News; For Linux to succeed the 'Linux' Foundation will need to be disbanded. It's a force against Linux. http://techrights.org/2022/02/18/linux-foundation-board-2022/

20:38 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Board in 2022: 86% Corporate and 81% Proprietary Software Companies | Techrights

20:39 TR News; The 'Linux' Foundation is for Linux like Russia Today is for Russians. It's just propagvanda for the oligarchs who oppress Linux users and Russians.

20:40 thruputin; you could try dahliaos

20:41 thruputin; with fuchisa kernel

20:41 schestowitz-TR2; We mentioned it a few times

20:41 TR News; FreeBSD wants 1.4 million dollars. I hope they stop accepting bribes from Microsoft. Those can only harm the project. https://freebsdfoundation.org/donate/

20:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: freebsdfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://freebsdfoundation.org/donate/

20:41 TR Bot; Donate | FreeBSD Foundation

20:42 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162405

20:42 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

20:45 TR News; Seems like divergence from the goal of the Public Knowledge: "The more diversity we have in rooms where people make decisions, the more inclusive our laws and regulations are in meeting the needs of all parts of our society." https://publicknowledge.org/privileged-conversations-breakfast-series/

20:45 TR Bot; Privileged Conversations Breakfast Series - Public Knowledge

20:46 activelow; i was in error, Russia did expand into more than 30 african nations, this wasn't reported before

20:47 thruputin; it wasnt?

20:48 schestowitz-TR2; now they do mali

20:48 schestowitz-TR2; as france may be pulling out

20:48 schestowitz-TR2; russia is also involved in south america along with china

20:48 schestowitz-TR2; like uk and us... but another alliance

20:48 thruputin; most African independence revolutions was fueled by sovites

20:49 thruputin; soviets

20:49 TR News; "We look back at our favorite moments from the last ten years of the Raspberry Pi, why you might want to start considering one, and where we want to see the platform evolve." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147872/mmm-pi-self-hosted-66/

20:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147872/mmm-pi-self-hosted-66/

20:49 TR Bot; Mmm. Pi. | Self-Hosted 66 | Jupiter Broadcasting

20:50 TR News; Tiger Lake-U system features dual 2.5GbE and six PoE+ ports Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162406

20:51 TR Bot; Tiger Lake-U system features dual 2.5GbE and six PoE+ ports | Tux Machines

20:52 TR News; ...Clowd Instances from the Clowd... lovely nonsense. Is it also smart HEY HI? https://www.suse.com/c/update-your-cloud-instances-from-the-cloud-with-suse-manager-4-2-new-payg-capabilities/

20:52 Alternative link; Cloudflare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/update-your-cloud-instances-from-the-cloud-with-suse-manager-4-2-new-payg-capabilities/

20:52 TR Bot; your Cloud Instances from the Cloud with SUSE Manager 4.2 - New PAYG Capabilities | SUSE Communities

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20:55 TR News; Well, technically you do not need IBM/Red Hat for this https://telecoms.com/513946/red-hat-wants-to-be-the-default-platform-for-openran/

20:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: telecoms.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://telecoms.com/513946/red-hat-wants-to-be-the-default-platform-for-openran/

20:55 TR Bot; Hat wants to be the default platform for Open RAN - Telecoms.com

20:55 DaemonFC; MinceR, I had to work around an iPhone bug that's been there for at least 5 years. When they reset Mandy's e-SIM yesterday to our new plan, it triggered a bug where a box pops up every time you try to make a call that says "Last line no longer available? Use last remaining line. Call? Cancel?".

20:56 DaemonFC; You clear the bug by removing all the recent calls from before they changed the e-SIM.

20:56 TR News; GNU/Linux in healthcare. Microsoft cannot be too happy. Gulag also... they love collecting people's medical data... makes them "too big to (allow to) fail" https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/university-health-network-transforms-core-connected-healthcare-system-red-hat-integration

20:56 TR Bot; University Health Network Transforms Core Connected Healthcare System with Red Hat Integration

20:57 TR News; VMware ought not be there. https://www.telecomlead.com/telecom-equipment/vmware-and-red-hat-top-5g-telco-cloud-native-platforms-ranking-103761 see http://techrights.org/wiki/VMware#2020

20:57 TR Bot; and Red Hat top 5G Telco Cloud native platforms ranking - TelecomLead

20:57 TR Bot; VMware - Techrights

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20:59 TR News; Videos: Raspberry Pi, Tor, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162407

20:59 TR Bot; Videos: Raspberry Pi, Tor, and More | Tux Machines

9 PM, March 10

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21:00 thruputin; is morphos linux?

21:00 schestowitz-TR2; noi

21:00 schestowitz-TR2; no

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21:00 thruputin; what is it?

21:01 schestowitz; "MorphOS as the AmigaOS-like operating system now in development for more than two decades and targeting PowerPC hardware is out with version 3.16 as its first major release in over a year. "

21:01 schestowitz; "The MorphOS 3.16 SDK has GCC 11 as the latest version of that open-source compiler, an updated GDB debugger, and other toolchain updates. "

21:01 schestowitz; https://morphos-team.net/news

21:01 TR Bot; MorphOS - News

21:02 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162408

21:02 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

21:03 thruputin; AmigaOS is the ancestor to osx?

21:03 psydroid4; is it?

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21:03 psydroid4; I thought it was NeXTSTEP or however you spell it

21:03 schestowitz-TR2; nope

21:03 thruputin; isnt powerpc macos?

21:04 schestowitz-TR2; psydroid4: there's macos

21:04 schestowitz-TR2; and osx

21:04 schestowitz-TR2; and then macos again

21:04 schestowitz-TR2; now they spell it differently

21:04 psydroid4; schestowitz-TR2, they do all of that intentionally

21:04 schestowitz-TR2; ppc-based mac-branded pcs also did mac os 10/x

21:04 psydroid4; it's just based off NeXT's operating system

21:05 schestowitz-TR2; mac os 9, then macOSX

21:05 psydroid4; except for traditional macos

21:05 schestowitz-TR2; now macos

21:05 psydroid4; yeah

21:05 schestowitz-TR2; same shit

21:05 schestowitz-TR2; do they give a second mouse button by now?

21:05 thruputin; never used that shit

21:05 psydroid4; my powermacs never ran mac os x

21:05 schestowitz-TR2; i have not been keeping up?

21:05 schestowitz-TR2; to open context menu in the past you had to press down the single button

21:06 psydroid4; I ran it for a few hours to see what it's like before just decoupling the drive and running GNU/Linux

21:06 schestowitz-TR2; my mice have 6 buttons and a wheel

21:06 psydroid4; you have been keeping up somewhat

21:06 thruputin; minimalistic!=simple

21:06 psydroid4; and that mouse was terrible

21:06 psydroid4; I just use regular USB peripherals

21:07 thruputin; minimalistic!=intuitive

21:07 schestowitz-TR2; the apple mice can be terrible

21:07 schestowitz-TR2; too small, sometimes too expensive, and not even so comfortable

21:07 schestowitz-TR2; minimalistic=toyish

21:07 schestowitz-TR2; "my first mouse"

21:08 psydroid4; the hardware can be quite ok, if you run a proper operating system on it

21:08 thruputin; let me guess you cant use any goood ol mouse can you?

21:08 psydroid4; but that begs the question, why can't more companies sell decent hardware?

21:08 psydroid4; instead of the same old overheating shit

21:08 schestowitz-TR2; for 10-15 pounds I can get a very very good mouse

21:08 schestowitz-TR2; that lasts me 2-4 years of intensive wor

21:08 schestowitz-TR2; *work

21:09 thruputin; decent hardware and pretty expensive too

21:10 psydroid4; yes

21:10 schestowitz-TR2; psydroid4: the standards are being lowered

21:10 schestowitz-TR2; 1. for hardware

21:10 psydroid4; but the x86 equivalents have been quite expensive too

21:10 schestowitz-TR2; 2. for security

21:10 schestowitz-TR2; 2. bloat/programming

21:10 schestowitz-TR2; 3. skills

21:10 schestowitz-TR2; 4. privacy

21:10 schestowitz-TR2; the list goes on and on

21:10 psydroid4; and in some ways even worse

21:11 schestowitz-TR2; sometimes to get a decent fun game you need to grab some binaries from the 1990s

21:11 psydroid4; so Intel and AMD don't get a free pass from me either

21:11 psydroid4; I haven't really played any recent games

21:11 schestowitz-TR2; the quests and the strategy games

21:12 psydroid4; now that Microsoft has bought Activision/Blizzard, they may even butcher Starcraft I & II

21:12 psydroid4; which run just fine on wine

21:12 thruputin; Intel is the worst they squeez and milk the hardware like there no tomorrow

21:12 thruputin; at least AMD come along

21:13 psydroid4; AMD has also been squeezing and milking its hardware recently

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21:13 psydroid4; it's almost as if they want to be the new Intel

21:13 thruputin; and probably and no tomorrow might be coming to intal soon

21:13 TR News; This latest OSI waffle distracts from the fact they're put Microsoft in charge https://opensource.org/the-modern-function-and-role-of-the-osi-board-of-directors see http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/fsf-removes-troublemakers/ and http://techrights.org/wiki/Open_Source_Initiative

21:13 TR Bot; The modern function and role of the OSI Board of Directors | Open Source Initiative | Guaranteeing the 'our' in source...

21:13 TR Bot; OSI Taken Over (Even More Than Before) by Microsoft, Whereas FSF Removes Troublemakers | Techrights

21:13 TR Bot; Open Source Initiative - Techrights

21:13 MinceR; DaemonFC: i'd clear the bug by buying a real phone

21:13 MinceR; 10 220305 < thruputin> AmigaOS is the ancestor to osx?

21:13 MinceR; no

21:14 thruputin; AMD has also been squeezing and milking its hardware recently YES they learned from the best

21:15 psydroid4; AMD had such a period in the 2000s too

21:15 psydroid4; when they asked $1000 for a dualcore processor

21:15 psydroid4; AMD Athlon 64 X2

21:15 schestowitz-TR2; I was gonna name Athlon

21:15 thruputin; i guess it tomes with the territory you have the fastest shit you become like that

21:15 psydroid4; and a few years later you could buy it for $65

21:15 psydroid4; which is what I did

21:15 thruputin; its from the markting manual 1o1

21:16 psydroid4; yeah

21:16 psydroid4; I've never wanted the fastest shit

21:16 TR News; Linux Foundation is a front group of anti-GPL collectives: "The list includes big names like Google and Microsoft as well as the developers of adjacent tools such as Anchore and Snyk." https://www.cloudsavvyit.com/15465/what-is-the-spdx-standard-and-how-is-it-helping-the-software-industry/

21:16 TR Bot; What Is The SPDX Standard and How Is It Helping The Software Industry? CloudSavvy IT

21:16 psydroid4; just something that allows me to do my work and leaves me alone

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21:17 bnchs; coporates hate GPL

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21:17 TR News; "In this video, we are looking at how to install the Brave browser on Zorin OS 16." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wIsN_B8tDUU

21:17 TR Bot; How to install the Brave browser on Zorin OS 16 - Invidious

21:17 thruputin; so you are using a raspberry now?

21:17 bnchs; because they don't allow them to take advantage of free software and put in their proprietary SaaS which will be sold to normies

21:18 psydroid4; I am on a used Intel laptop here, but I have an Orange Pi running all the same software

21:19 psydroid4; I'm waiting for decent ARM (and RISC-V) laptops like the Pinebook (Pro)

21:20 bnchs; it seems like people really hate epig shit store exclusives

21:21 bnchs; https://teddit.net/r/fuckepic/

21:21 TR Bot; /r/fuckepic

21:21 bnchs; 38K subscribers (maybe that means nothing)

21:26 TR News; The COVID-19 Surge in the United Kingdom (Raw NHS Numbers) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/?p=5614&preview=true

21:26 TR Bot; Blog Archive The COVID-19 Surge in the United Kingdom (Raw NHS Numbers)

21:26 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs: they can be bought

21:26 schestowitz-TR2; they are "services" like these

21:27 bnchs; one thing i learnt about tim swine-e and his store, is that he constantly relies on making games exclusive to his store

21:27 bnchs; to try to lock-in users to his store

21:27 schestowitz-TR2; he uses his wine-fluence

21:27 schestowitz-TR2; *swine-fluence

21:28 TR News; "The Open Source Initiative (OSI) is the guardian of the Open Source brand, which seeks to take credit for -- and power from -- the work started by GNU and the Free Software Foundation (FSF) of Richard Stallman. Microsoft entryism at the OSI took a giant leap around 2017." http://techrights.org/wiki/Open_Source_Initiative

21:28 TR Bot; Open Source Initiative - Techrights

21:28 bnchs; but the games he manages to make exclusive always end up selling bad in the store

21:28 bnchs; so they end up breaking up the exclusivity deal and publishing their game in other stores like steam

21:29 TR News; "Now, I'm planning to host a private Nextcloud instance for my family and a lot of other stuff, so I needed something less prone to suddenly stop working or fuck up my data. Luckily, I found a 1TB HDD no one was using, so I took it." gemini://avalos.me/gemlog/2021-04-14-upgrade-orangepi-one-to-raspberrypi-4.gmi

21:29 thruputin; what games?

21:30 thruputin; tim is the new jobs right?

21:30 psydroid4; he wants to be the new jobs perhaps

21:30 psydroid4; but at least jobs went his own way

21:30 thruputin; tim cook?

21:30 thruputin; right?

21:31 thruputin; he does gaming too?

21:31 psydroid4; yes, his successor

21:31 TR News; "Time flies. Gemini has come a long way even since then. Popular capsules today like Antenna and Station weren't yet around, and the activity they were getting even just several months ago feels like it pales in comparison to today's." gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-01-31-checking-in.gmi

21:31 psydroid4; but bnchs is talking about tim sweeney, the CEO of Epic Game

21:31 psydroid4; s

21:31 psydroid4; who is buddies with the guys at Microsoft and discredits GNU/Linux

21:31 TR News; "Gemini is a good model for how one might develop an NNTP successor; it might also be instructive to try *discussing* an NNTP successor *using* Gemini, rather than email and email lists." gemini://gemini.ucant.org/gemlog/2020-12-26_nntp.gmi

21:32 psydroid4; even if his company has games for Android too

21:33 DaemonFC; I don't know why you'd target PowerPC exclusively except to render your OS a nonstarter for most people.

21:33 thruputin; unreal right

21:34 DaemonFC; The last mass market hardware that had any sort of standardization that was consumer-facing were PPC Macs, which stopped being sold entirely in 2006.

21:34 bnchs; and also trying to entice developers with exclusivity deals with the benefit of them taking less cut of their game sales

21:34 DaemonFC; There's still a fanbase around getting those macs to do something.

21:34 bnchs; forcing these developers to publish their game only on epic games

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21:34 DaemonFC; You can still obviously compile a lot of open source software targeting them.

21:34 bnchs; rather than publishing them on all stores

21:34 DaemonFC; Up until very recently, there was one last web browser that worked on them.

21:35 *activelow (~activelow@ket9pi5gbeqcg.irc) has joined #techrights

21:36 TR News; New twists of 'flavours' of the FUD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162251#comment-33026 explained in http://techrights.org/2022/03/08/a-media-of-masturbating-monkeys/

21:36 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

21:36 TR Bot; This is the Medias Equivalent of What Linus Torvalds Called Masturbating Monkeys | Techrights

21:36 DaemonFC; Some of them were in use longer than Windows XP.

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21:39 TR News; When COVID-19 lock-downs started the gym where we go to (for 20+ years) basically quit Twitter (never updated the account since). Last Friday I did the same. This was long overdue and life has improved since. I should have done that years ago.

21:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, The guy at T-Mobile asked me if I wanted a Samsung tablet. I told him no, and that I just got rid of a Samsung phone, and why. And I added "Whenever Microsoft gets this involved with another company, that company usually has ten years or less left as a company.".

21:40 TR News; 4 shills (also anti-RMS voices) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lzjmPmfLB-o DRM is good... when you're paid to do videos about it

21:40 TR Bot; The Steam Deck Changed Us FOREVER | A Linux gaming crossover event! - Invidious

21:40 DaemonFC; They didn't manage to kill IBM with their OS/2 treachery, but they were the beginning of the end of IBM's PC business.

21:41 TR News; I am happy to promote Arch Linux and KDE through "Deck" not because Valve sends me gifts. But because it weakens Microsoft and Windows.

21:41 DaemonFC; Had they done it up themselves and shipped OS/2 as a first-party solution instead of assisting Microsoft on the basis of what became Windows NT, IBM may still have been the leading computer company in the world, including PCs.

21:42 schestowitz-TR2; IBM would still be malicious

21:42 schestowitz-TR2; and maybe would never back GNU

21:42 schestowitz-TR2; they called it "Linux"

21:42 DaemonFC; Instead, Microsoft ran off with it, came up with something just barely good enough to work, licensed it to a bunch of PC clone vendors who didn't care if their product was very good, and basically that works like the Russian Army.

21:42 DaemonFC; They come pouring over the border in thousands of tanks that are junk and overwhelm.

21:43 schestowitz-TR2; now they shell civialians

21:43 schestowitz-TR2; like Bush with "sock and awe"

21:43 schestowitz-TR2; state terrorism

21:43 schestowitz-TR2; like MinceR says, Terrorussia

21:43 DaemonFC; In theory, if the US wanted to invade Ukraine, we could have toppled their government in 2 days or less.

21:43 DaemonFC; We have a lot of interesting and unique capabilities that Putin doesn't.

21:43 schestowitz-TR2; to shock your "enemy" and get them to beg for anything to stop the bloodbath

21:43 DaemonFC; About the only reason he's a threat is nuclear weapons.

21:43 XRevan86; Oh boy, apparently Google considers the whole Donetsk oblast' as DPR, and so everyone in Ukraine there is under sanctions now.

21:44 MinceR; lol

21:44 schestowitz-TR2; Gulag

21:44 DaemonFC; Well, that's what you get for backing Putler.

21:44 XRevan86; So delightfully evil.

21:44 schestowitz-TR2; send them to Siberia too

21:44 *schestowitz-TR2 checks Brin's town of birth

21:44 DaemonFC; https://beebom.com/how-fix-last-line-no-longer-available-iphone/

21:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: beebom.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://beebom.com/how-fix-last-line-no-longer-available-iphone/

21:44 TR Bot; to Fix 'Last Line No Longer Available' on iPhone 13 (2021) | Beebom

21:45 DaemonFC; This issue has gone on since at least 2017.

21:45 XRevan86; DaemonFC: DPR doesn't control the whole Donetsk oblast' of Ukraine.

21:45 DaemonFC; Right, they control about half I think.

21:45 XRevan86; about a third

21:45 schestowitz-TR2; brin born in moscow

21:45 schestowitz-TR2; turning 50 next summer

21:46 schestowitz; https://www.quora.com/Does-Sergey-Brin-possess-a-Russian-passport-or-a-US-passport

21:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: quora.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.quora.com/Does-Sergey-Brin-possess-a-Russian-passport-or-a-US-passport

21:46 TR Bot; Sergey Brin possess a Russian passport or a US passport? - Quora

21:47 schestowitz; https://fr.usembassy.gov/renunciation/

21:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: usembassy.gov | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://fr.usembassy.gov/renunciation/

21:47 TR Bot; Relinquish U.S. Citizenship (Expatriate) - U.S. Embassy & Consulates in France

21:48 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Though half is more accurate, ye're right.

21:48 TR News; Gulag is some patriot, eh? https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/11/9/21547055/eric-schmidt-google-citizen-cyprus-european-union

21:48 TR Bot; Google CEO Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus - Vox

21:49 schestowitz; tl;dr seems Sergey Brin is very unlikely to be dual national

21:49 schestowitz; but he might be keeping it secret... he does not need to disclosure such a thing

21:51 schestowitz; Naturalized citizens of the United States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin

21:51 TR Bot; Sergey Brin - Wikipedia

21:51 schestowitz; in the 1970s

21:51 schestowitz; I would not be surprised, given the cold war back then, if you were forced to relinquish the russian nationality for this

21:52 schestowitz; I know some triple-nationals

21:53 schestowitz; https://www.reddit.com/r/google/comments/e23i8/google_cofounder_sergey_brin_in_drag/

21:53 TR Bot; Google Co-Founder Sergey Brin in Drag : google

21:53 schestowitz; https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/sergey-brin-google-yearbook-photo_n_1145959

21:53 TR Bot; Sergey Brin Yearbook Photo Shows Google Co-Founder Before He Was A Billionaire | HuffPost UK Tech

21:53 schestowitz; he still looks similar

21:54 schestowitz; LOL: https://www.flickr.com/photos/dullhunk/6948723363

21:54 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Flickr

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10 PM, March 10

22:12 TR News; No connection at all to Linux https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/block-joins-the-linux-foundation/

22:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/block-joins-the-linux-foundation/

22:12 TR Bot; Block Joins the Linux Foundation - Linux Foundation

22:13 TR News; Linux Foundation: we make the planet more green. Also Linux Foundation: we take money to promote companies to burn the planet for fake "coin"

22:14 TR News; Linux Foundation is "green" like Jim Zemlin is black. http://techrights.org/2020/09/02/linux-foundation-greenwashing-and-openwashing-for-microsoft/

22:14 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Works for Microsoft | Techrights

22:15 TR News; And speaking of blacks, the Linux Foundation doesn't want to hire them, just to exploit their names for PR http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/

22:15 TR Bot; Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its Support for the Black Community | Techrights

22:16 schestowitz-TR2; XRevan86: I need a URL for the Donesk thing

22:17 XRevan86; https://ebanoe.it/2022/03/07/google-restrictions/

22:17 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://ebanoe.it/2022/03/07/google-restrictions/ )

22:17 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ebanoe.it | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ebanoe.it/2022/03/07/google-restrictions/

22:17 schestowitz-TR2; thanks!

22:17 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/fair-2

22:17 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Fair

22:18 schestowitz-TR2; XRevan86: is it fair to say:

22:18 schestowitz-TR2; Google Now Bans Parts of Ukraine for Being Invaded by Russia

22:19 XRevan86; More accurately, Google considers that the territory that DPR considers theirs is indeed theirs.

22:19 XRevan86; (and that Russia considers DPR's)

22:23 schestowitz; OK, how about

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22:23 schestowitz; Google Recognises DPR (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia

22:24 XRevan86; They kind of do, but that's not the problem here.

22:24 schestowitz; Google, Co-Founded by Moskvite, Agrees With Moscow. Recognises DPR (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia.

22:24 schestowitz; I cannot read the article

22:24 schestowitz; hence I ask you

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22:25 schestowitz; is Muscovite the right term?

22:25 XRevan86; The guy from Mariupol' says that because his city is in Donetsk oblast' Google blocked him considering him as a resident of DPR.

22:25 XRevan86; Or Google Cloud rather

22:26 XRevan86; https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Moscovite#French

22:26 TR Bot; Moscovite - Wiktionary

22:26 XRevan86; both work I guess

22:26 schestowitz-TR2; thanks

22:26 schestowitz-TR2; my point will be

22:27 schestowitz-TR2; those sanctions are idiotic

22:27 schestowitz-TR2; and go wrong

22:27 schestowitz-TR2; and punish the wrong p[eople

22:27 bnchs; this is why i don't believe in the "clown"

22:27 XRevan86; In this case they definitely punished the wrong person.

22:27 bnchs; if you're in the wrong country at the wrong time, there goes your data

22:28 XRevan86; Being a Ukrainian in Ukraine and a refugee, but also being punished by Google in the name of Ukraine is several levels of ironic.

22:28 schestowitz-TR2; thanks

22:28 schestowitz-TR2; I will quote you a little

22:28 schestowitz-TR2; less chance of me getting facts wronfg

22:29 XRevan86; Don't credit.

22:29 schestowitz-TR2; yes

22:29 schestowitz-TR2; anon

22:29 schestowitz-TR2; "Putin's chef" ;-)

22:29 XRevan86; Prigozhin is my zemlyak but I'm not he %)

22:30 AdmFubar; https://www.accessnow.org/surveillance-tech-investor-guide/

22:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/surveillance-tech-investor-guide/

22:30 TR Bot; New guide: surveillance technology investors face significant risks if human rights are ignored - Access Now

22:30 XRevan86; Putin is from Petersburg as well, albeit he's not a resident (obviously).

22:31 bnchs; "surveillence technology"

22:31 bnchs; "human rights are ignored"

22:36 activelow; "Russia left European Council"

22:36 activelow; "Ukrainian and Northstream1 pipeline continue operation at 100% capacity to supply EU"

22:36 XRevan86; It's more like "ye didn't fire me, I LEFT"

22:38 schestowitz-TR2; ok, already ready

22:38 activelow; Brexit, Russia, ... who is next?

22:39 XRevan86; Did the UK also get expelled but then told everyone that was the plan all along?

22:39 schestowitz; bnchs: XRevan86 draft: http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/donetsk-and-gulag-or-google-now-bans-parts-of-ukraine-for-being-invaded-by-russia/

22:39 TR Bot; When Sanctions Go Toxic: Google, Co-Founded by Moscovite, Agrees With Moscow and Recognises Mariupol (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia | Techrights

22:41 schestowitz; XRevan86: to clarify

22:41 schestowitz; gulag said russia is targeted

22:41 schestowitz; if they also target "independent" (stolen) regions

22:41 XRevan86; schestowitz: The google-evil image is genuinely repelling.

22:41 schestowitz; that's rather idiotic to say the leader

22:41 schestowitz; *least

22:41 XRevan86; Really unpleasant to look at.

22:42 Ariadne; i was apparently highlighted here?

22:42 kingoffrance; the thing about <mib_nlekxs> is they think there's some magical clean money trail....because there's some magical banking angel that isnt connected to any gov or wars. i dont think they have any conception how "money" works. 1) run up national debts 2) pay up that's it. enforced by guns and violence. "government is not eloquence" [force] george washington

22:42 kingoffrance; i dont know if they are trolling, just some dumb kid i think

22:42 XRevan86; Ariadne: Oh, I casted you like 12 hours ago about a developed trend.

22:42 kingoffrance; looking for "virtue" where there is none

22:43 XRevan86; Ariadne: https://meduza.io/feature/2022/03/10/v-mariupole-razbombili-detskuyu-bolnitsu-vot-kak-rossiyskaya-vlast-ob-yasnyaet-chto-proizoshlo basically this.

22:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/feature/2022/03/10/v-mariupole-razbombili-detskuyu-bolnitsu-vot-kak-rossiyskaya-vlast-ob-yasnyaet-chto-proizoshlo

22:43 TR Bot; NO TITLE

22:44 Ariadne; XRevan86: oh, is that the russian explanation

22:44 XRevan86; Ariadne: Lots of them.

22:45 XRevan86; Lavrov said that the hospital was an Azov base, and it was otherwise deserted. Then the Ministry of ~War~ Defence said that Russia never attacked the hospital, and it's all a fake.

22:45 XRevan86; They really should have coordinated better.

22:45 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I noticed T-Mobile operates a bit like Comcast.

22:46 DaemonFC; Every time you say you're frustrated with all of the problems, they find a different billing plan where you don't lose anything and the price goes down.

22:46 DaemonFC; Seems they figure eventually you're getting it cheaper than any of the competition and can't leave even if you want to.

22:47 TR News; When Sanctions Go Toxic: Google, Co-Founded by Moscovite, Agrees With Moscow and Recognises Mariupol (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/donetsk-and-gulag-or-google-now-bans-parts-of-ukraine-for-being-invaded-by-russia/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/10/donetsk-and-gulag-or-google-now-bans-parts-of-ukraine-for-being-invaded-by-russia/

22:48 kingoffrance; or i should say, they suffer from the delusion that corporations are non-gov-backed entities.

22:49 TR News; Jim Zemlin: Kiev loves Moscow http://techrights.org/2019/07/31/jim-zemlin-open-source-loves-microsoft/

22:49 TR Bot; Jim Zemlin: Open Source Loves Microsoft | Techrights

22:50 kingoffrance; so there's some magical "clean" corporations full of "virtue" ...somewhere...

22:50 TR News; "The Linux Foundation empowers open source innovators. Jim Zemlin, Executive Director at the Linux Foundation..." uses NOT LINUX... and is married to a Microsoft reseller https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/block-joins-the-linux-foundation/

22:50 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/block-joins-the-linux-foundation/

22:50 TR Bot; Block Joins the Linux Foundation - Linux Foundation

22:50 XRevan86; Ariadne: I guess it's not technically tankies, but still counts as heads up probably :).

22:50 kingoffrance; such a thing might be called a charity. businesses are expressly not charities

22:51 kingoffrance; would be violating their charter, shareholders would revolt, etc.

22:51 schestowitz-TR2; kingoffrance: they redefine those words

22:51 schestowitz-TR2; in the US oligarchs are called "philanthropists"

22:51 kingoffrance; im trying to give them the benefit of doubt...fallacies; that too :)

22:51 schestowitz-TR2; they don't evade tax, they "create jobs"

22:51 kingoffrance; ^

22:52 activelow; there is rumors, some banks will default in April

22:52 AdmFubar; create jobs for robots

22:53 TR News; How on Earth did this guy become "Boss of Linus Torvalds" without having accomplished anything of any significance in his lifetime? Puppet on corporate strings? http://techrights.org/wiki/Jim_Zemlin

22:53 TR Bot; Jim Zemlin - Techrights

22:53 AdmFubar; https://www.darkreading.com/edge-articles/spotlight-on-first-dan-kaminsky-fellow-jonathan-leitschuh

22:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: darkreading.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darkreading.com/edge-articles/spotlight-on-first-dan-kaminsky-fellow-jonathan-leitschuh

22:53 TR Bot; Spotlight on First Dan Kaminsky Fellow: Jonathan Leitschuh

22:54 TR News; Later this year Linux Foundation turns 15. Even IF Zemlin switched to "Linux" to mark this anniversary, he would not say so in public, as he'd rightly anticipate the response, "ONLY NOW?????????"

22:54 schestowitz-TR2; AdmFubar: so they lionise Kaminsky now?

22:55 schestowitz-TR2; like people who claimed he was secretly satoshi?

22:56 TR News; Valve marketing in GulagTube "https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/four-nerds-talk-about-steam-deck-valve-linux-and-more/ see http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/influencers-ruin-the-www/

22:56 TR Bot; nerds talk about Steam Deck, Valve, Linux and more | GamingOnLinux

22:56 TR Bot; Influencers Gaming the Web of Videos (GulagTube) | Techrights

22:57 TR News; #gulagtube as broadcast/cable with a "You" slant... to make you think it's any better than TV http://techrights.org/2022/02/15/youtube-spam-rewarding-junk/

22:57 TR Bot; YouTube is Becoming Mostly SPAM | Techrights

22:59 bnchs; they should rename it to four shills

22:59 bnchs; "The Linux Experiment, Jason from Forbes / Linux For Everyone and Gardiner Bryant"

22:59 schestowitz-TR2; we wrtote about 2 of them years ago

22:59 schestowitz-TR2; taking gifts

11 PM, March 10

23:00 schestowitz-TR2; they also shilled Intel

23:01 TR News; Google considers that the territory that DPR considers theirs is indeed theirs http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/donetsk-and-gulag-or-google-now-bans-parts-of-ukraine-for-being-invaded-by-russia/

23:01 TR Bot; When Sanctions Go Toxic: Google, Co-Founded by Moscovite, Agrees With Moscow and Recognises Mariupol (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia | Techrights

23:01 TR News; 8 things to know when switching from Windows to Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162409

23:01 TR Bot; 8 things to know when switching from Windows to Linux | Tux Machines

23:01 bnchs; they talk about steam deck and valve

23:01 bnchs; because it's the thing they're paid to talk about

23:02 schestowitz-TR2; precisely

23:02 schestowitz-TR2; and if some little company could pay them, the channels wouyld change overnight

23:02 schestowitz-TR2; topic change

23:02 psydroid9; and paid shills like gulagtube and discord

23:02 schestowitz-TR2; but it's expensive

23:02 bnchs; maybe they should talk about valve neglecting most of their multiplayer games

23:02 schestowitz-TR2; not every company that makes gnu/linux consoles *some did exist!) sells DRM for billions

23:02 psydroid9; easier to control platforms for disinformation

23:02 bnchs; or how they're full of bots

23:03 schestowitz-TR2; this is where gemini helps

23:03 schestowitz-TR2; it's free of this BS

23:03 schestowitz-TR2; the corporations ignore gemini

23:04 psydroid9; I wonder if Jason was told he could come back to Forbes if he stuck to

23:04 bnchs; they never talk about the bad things of valve

23:04 bnchs; rather the good stuff they're paid to talk about

23:04 psydroid9; approved channels of communication

23:04 TR News; "I was going to write a massive rant but I can't even be bothered to give reddit that much effort any more, here's a link dump." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-11-12.gmi reddit = corporate astroturfing platform that posthumously lies about Aaron Swartz to pretend Conde Nast (Wall Street) = geeks

23:04 psydroid9; hence why suddenly killing the matrix bridge

23:05 psydroid9; because it was used to "spam"

23:05 psydroid9; discord never has any spam

23:05 schestowitz-TR2; btw

23:05 psydroid9; except for corporate spam

23:05 schestowitz-TR2; an hour ot 2 ago I went to freebsd site

23:05 schestowitz-TR2; they have discord advertised x-|

23:05 psydroid9; yes

23:06 psydroid9; free software projects that shill discord Signal that they don't care about freedom

23:06 psydroid9; signal*

23:06 schestowitz; Sponsored spam https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/05/13/its-time-to-pay-attention-to-intels-clear-linux-os-project/

23:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/05/13/its-time-to-pay-attention-to-intels-clear-linux-os-project/

23:06 TR Bot; It's Time To Pay Attention To Intel's Clear Linux OS Project

23:07 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2020/04/03/clearly-allergic-to-ethics/

23:07 TR Bot; Clear Linux is to GNU/Linux What Clearly Defined is to Open Source | Techrights

23:07 bnchs; they use excuses to stay on discord

23:07 bnchs; "oh its convenient" "everyone uses it"

23:08 bnchs; "we can't use irc"

23:08 psydroid9; discord is limiting like any other social control media thing

23:08 psydroid9; irc is for orcs and cavemen

23:08 psydroid9; and trolls

23:09 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2019/05/28/lf-big-surveillance-industry/

23:09 schestowitz; "what push does LF have with members for involvement with these projects no one uses? The recent Forbes article about Clear Linux is that paid for too? The push to use LF projects by partners/members, I guess is understandable. Buying magazine space to promote seems shady. Need facts."

23:09 TR Bot; Linux Foundation and the Big Surveillance Industry, Media Industry, Microsoft Azure | Techrights

23:09 psydroid9; the worst part of discord is that you can't get anything out of it

23:09 bnchs; it reminds me of that yesterweb bullshit

23:09 bnchs; they refuse to use IRC

23:09 bnchs; because "hate speech"

23:10 bnchs; and all that

23:10 psydroid9; everything is locked behind their servers

23:10 schestowitz; I've long warned Jason that Forbes would van him if he did his own thing

23:10 psydroid9; and "spam"

23:10 schestowitz; they would only tolerate him as long as sponsors like Microsoft did

23:10 schestowitz; they hired some Microsoft boosters

23:10 schestowitz; like Dave Windsomethiong

23:10 psydroid9; like talking about actual software freedom

23:11 psydroid9; that's the worst spam of all

23:11 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-090821.txt

23:11 schestowitz; "[02:00]techrights-newsHas Forbes killed off Jason Evangelho? No more #gnu #linux coverage allowed unless they receive bribes? Like #microsoft does for endless #vista11 fluff..."

23:11 psydroid9; so you must talk about games and proprietary software with DRM

23:12 psydroid9; that's perfectly on topic

23:12 schestowitz-TR2; yeah

23:12 schestowitz-TR2; "normie"

23:12 schestowitz-TR2; twitter can be like that too

23:13 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/02/04/twitter-berserk/

23:13 TR Bot; Twitter: We Suspend Your Account For Quoting the Media About Bill Gates | Techrights

23:15 TR News; OMG. Mozilla Firefox marketing has gone looney-tooney https://blog.mozilla.org/en/uncategorized/the-pandemic-changed-everything-even-the-way-we-use-browser-extensions/ Mozilla: a million people died in the US with COVID-19, let's us THAT for marketing

23:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/uncategorized/the-pandemic-changed-everything-even-the-way-we-use-browser-extensions/

23:15 TR Bot; The pandemic changed everything even the way we use browser extensions

23:15 psydroid9; I wouldn't be surprises if they started using the war for marketing

23:15 TR News; Mozilla: "Google Translate... Facebook Container" ... yeah, well... guess who runs and funds Mozilla http://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/

23:15 TR Bot; Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Wont Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | Techrights

23:16 psydroid9; everything for a quick buck

23:16 psydroid9; surprised*

23:16 schestowitz; The Russian invasion changed everything even the way we use browser extensions

23:16 schestowitz; let's go to FB

23:16 schestowitz; and press "like" on CSS

23:16 schestowitz; *CNN

23:16 schestowitz; Take that, PUTLER!

23:17 schestowitz; Putin said he would withdraw the troops if the CNN article gathers 100,000 "likes"

23:17 kingoffrance; lol

23:19 schestowitz-TR2; why are youy lughing?

23:19 schestowitz-TR2; it's not a joke

23:19 schestowitz-TR2; it's true

23:19 schestowitz-TR2; I saw it in Facebook

23:19 schestowitz-TR2; it had 1000 shares

23:19 DaemonFC; ebay royally fucks your account if you use a VPN.

23:19 DaemonFC; Then their customer support just got really shitty with me over the phone.

23:22 TR News; The Top 15 Best Linux Terminal Emulators Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162410

23:22 TR Bot; The Top 15 Best Linux Terminal Emulators | Tux Machines

23:23 schestowitz; DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2020/06/25/mozilla-comcast/

23:23 TR Bot; Mozilla Shames Itself and Harms Its Reputation by Stating That Comcast Has Taken Major Steps to Protect Customer Privacy | Techrights

23:23 schestowitz; use a "Real" VPN

23:23 schestowitz; from Comcast

23:23 schestowitz; then ebay can approve

23:23 schestowitz; VPN for... not privacy... not goeblocking bypass (it's still US)

23:24 schestowitz; VPN because... "I support Baker"

23:24 TR News; Mixtile Blade 3 - A Rockchip RK3588 Pico-ITX board for server applications Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162411

23:24 TR Bot; Mixtile Blade 3 - A Rockchip RK3588 Pico-ITX board for server applications | Tux Machines

23:27 TR News; "One of the oldest issues on the Gemini specification's gitlab is about the semantics of fragments in Gemtext (if fragments should have semantics at all). I know I personally find myself wishing for fragments probably the most." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-12-11.gmi

23:28 TR News; "fact that like and comment systems are now pretty universally ostracized by the Gemini community. In fact, I strongly agree with the widespread discussion I've seen so far about liking systems and social media and all that jazz." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-08-22.gmi

23:29 TR News; "What made me like Gemini is that it leans more towards small personal spaces than what the current web has to offer. I have to be honest, I would have loved at least an inline image support as well as *some* minor text decorations but I'll make it work." gemini://cap.swan.quest/p/entry220226172834.gmi

23:30 kingoffrance; i dont know, you let people speak their mind ...from what i see, techrights "controlled opposition" is a very weird accusation to me. and, there are separate channels. thats very much now how "managed" things work

23:30 kingoffrance; *very much not how

23:30 schestowitz-TR2; did someone make such an accusation?

23:30 schestowitz-TR2; I never saw accusations as such

23:30 kingoffrance; thats what the accusation is...you work for "open source" but somehow spread "free software"

23:30 kingoffrance; no that guy yesterday sorry lol makes no sense

23:30 schestowitz-TR2; ah, I think I know who it might bne

23:31 kingoffrance; so what "angle" could that possibly be

23:31 schestowitz-TR2; I discussed this internally in another channel

23:31 kingoffrance; thats only thing i can figure he is accusing you of

23:31 schestowitz-TR2; (also logged)

23:31 schestowitz-TR2; no, he used a straw man

23:31 kingoffrance; np i wont bring it up just left yesterday and was reading scrollback catching up

23:31 schestowitz-TR2; he said I condemned companies that say "open source"

23:32 schestowitz-TR2; that's simply incorrect, I condemn openwashong

23:32 TR News; GNU Jitter and GCC: the fun of playing with fire http://ageinghacker.net/blog/posts/26/

23:32 TR Bot; GNU Jitter and GCC: the fun of playing with fire 2022-03-10 21:32

23:33 TR News; Kids should not carry tracking devices. I blame corporate governments for normalising this. https://www.maketecheasier.com/enable-parental-control-on-android-devices/

23:33 TR Bot; How to Enable Parental Controls on Android Devices - Make Tech Easier

23:35 TR News; "Almost all software developed today includes substantial open source components. The open source brand is very strong, and there are many interests who would like to leverage that brand without meeting its obligations." That's called #openwashing -- a term I coined 14 years ago gemini://drewdevault.com/2022/03/01/Open-source-is-defined-by-the-OSD.gmi

23:37 TR News; Aaron Swartz: "I think following the news is a waste of time." Depends where from. Genuine sources do exist. But they're not mainstream. gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-08-26-Aaron-Swartz-on-The-News.txt

23:37 DaemonFC; I got a karaoke system.

23:37 schestowitz-TR2; typical

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23:38 TR News; "I once experienced the "challenging individual to get along with" part in person, when I met with him at an event back in 2018. I was 14 years old at that time, and I didn't know too much about the free software movement or GNU." gemini://avalos.me/gemlog/2021-04-01-thoughts-on-richard-stallman.gmi

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23:40 TR News; "the instant I try to join a zoom call, wireless networking breaks irrepairably until a restart. Even after I close zoom, it stays broken. I can't figure out why, but I upgraded the zoom app yesterday and all of a sudden this started happening, so it's definitely a bug in zoom." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2020-11-11.gmi

23:44 TR News; "Overall I am very happy replacing debian sid with arch, and I don't regret anything about it." gemini://gemini.lottalinuxlinks.com/posts/2021-10-13-sid-to-arch.gmi

23:45 TR News; "Gemini is a new privacy-respecting internet protocol that seeks to fill the space between the web and gopher. It is still new to me, so I am just getting into it" gemini://gemini.lottalinuxlinks.com/posts/2021-02-07-my-gemini-capsule-has-launched.gmi

23:46 TR News; "Once you have sent several windows to the scratchpad, you can bring them back with a mod+minus; this will bring them back one (and only one) at a time in a cycling sequence based on the order that they were sent to the scratchpad." gemini://gemini.lottalinuxlinks.com/posts/2021-01-20-i3-scratchpad-and-vim-like-marks.gmi

23:47 bnchs; didn't zoom once tried to phish a root prompt in macos

23:47 TR News; "However, unlike on something like Gemini, you still do have markup. So you can provide markup that gives an extra special little enhancement to the text, but it'll still degrade to plaintext in some instances. This specific sitation has gotten me into thinking about the concept of gracefully degrading markup." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-09-16.gmi

23:48 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs: it is malware

23:48 schestowitz-TR2; I'd never install that thing

23:48 schestowitz-TR2; maybe I would

23:48 schestowitz-TR2; not on my device

23:48 schestowitz-TR2; but some honeypot

23:48 bnchs; they tried to fake a root prompt in mac

23:48 bnchs; i'm pretty sure they did the same in other OSes

23:48 bnchs; like installing their rootkit

23:48 schestowitz-TR2; it only gets worse over time

23:49 schestowitz-TR2; each new version adds more malicious 'features'

23:49 schestowitz-TR2; in the name of "monetisation"

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23:50 TR News; Managing MiniDisc Devices From the Command Line gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2022-02-25.gmi

23:50 bnchs; zoom is trying to be the big botnet

23:50 bnchs; to sell as much data as they can

23:51 psydroid8; I don't understand why it is used by educational institutions

23:51 bnchs; it reminds me of these RATs that let you spy on the user and sabotage their computer

23:51 psydroid8; or even worse, Teams

23:51 bnchs; even though this is equally if not, worse than that

23:52 psydroid8; RATs in the RAThouse

23:52 psydroid8; a.k.a. Windows

23:52 TR News; Russia creates its own TLS certificate authority to bypass sanctions gemini://station.martinrue.com/ fake security strikes again.... CAs = monopolistic shite, imperialistic plot

23:52 kingoffrance; "I don't understand why it is used by educational institutions" you mean zoom specifically, or any such software?

23:52 bnchs; in fact maybe these software can be classified as RAT

23:53 bnchs; remote access trojan

23:53 psydroid8; zoom and teams and the likes

23:53 psydroid8; if it is self-hosted and the source is free, it's a different thing

23:54 bnchs; proctoring can also be classified as RAT

23:54 bnchs; they let you peek into your students' deskop

23:54 bnchs; their webcam and microphone

23:54 bnchs; processes

23:55 psydroid8; I had a specific machine set up for that

23:55 psydroid8; and it didn't work after some update

23:55 TR News; World's Biggest Social Control Media Company Does More Anti-Social Things gemini://galaxyhub.uk/articles/social-media.gmi "collect its own data on the site's political advertising."

23:57 bnchs; it's a shame where the software they use daily are actually RATs

23:57 psydroid8; fortunately most of the measures have been lifted so exams are conducted in a normal way again

23:57 kingoffrance; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DECstation#Multimedia well even for proprietary stuff, compare system requirements to what google groups wants......

23:57 TR Bot; DECstation - Wikipedia

23:58 kingoffrance; i dont know what zoom and teams need, but that part seems ridiculous to me

23:58 TR News; Fortnite isn't a game, it's a lecherous advertising platform gemini://galaxyhub.uk/articles/fortnite.gmi "In 2019 one Canadian lawyer filed a legal notice against Epic Games, accusing it of using psychological techniques in order to hook players to Fortnite."

23:59 bnchs; i'm not surprised, tim swine-e's little casino for kids

23:59 psydroid8; I've seen some kids play it

23:59 psydroid8; but I just played xonotic with them

23:59 schestowitz-TR2; getting played by it

23:59 DaemonFC; I found two more 20 pound bags of basmati rice on ebay and bought them.

23:59 DaemonFC; That should get me to about 80 pounds on hand.

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