IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, June 09, 2024

beginning of new day, June 9

00:10 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/hope

00:10 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Hope

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1 AM, June 9

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01:08 IsambardPrince; https://boingboing.net/2024/06/08/tj-maxx-and-marshalls-workers-wearing-bodycams.html

01:08 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://boingboing.net/2024/06/08/tj-maxx-and-marshalls-workers-wearing-bodycams.html )

01:08 IsambardPrince; "It's possible that these retailers' chief officers are so malleable that Axon sold them on $2789 crackhead deterrent badges, but it's far more likely that the long-term plan is "see what your employees' hands are up to every second of their shift.""

01:09 IsambardPrince; I'd start putting small stickers right over the camera.

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01:30 IsambardPrince; Tomorrow I'm going to be making New York Strips in a cast iron skillet.

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2 AM, June 9

02:26 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D957.jpg

02:26 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D1306.jpg

02:27 TR News; "These days any development I do for myself will use nix to, at the very least, define the development environment, if not the entire build process." gemini://mediocregopher.com/posts/init-project.gmi

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02:28 TR News; "That companies can become neither beneficial nor commensual got the label enshittification, though "user domestication" is an alternative if less known term. Not all companies will go down this route, as there may not be pressure for embiggened profits or whatever it is that darkens the patterns" gemini://thrig.me/blog/2024/06/08/domestication.gmi

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02:39 TR News; (NEW): Daniel Pocock: European Parliament election count 2024 day 1 https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Daniel_Pocock_European_Parliament_election_count_2024_day_1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Daniel_Pocock_European_Parliament_election_count_2024_day_1.gmi

02:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Daniel Pocock: European Parliament election count 2024 day 1

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02:42 TR News; iophk: "LT might be rude about code, at times, but his rants are about the code and when the programmer knows better than to have made the mistake. He explained this succinctly long ago, that link is worth finding." gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/08/Debian_Project_Does_Not_Care_About_Freedom_Anymore_It_Only_Care.gmi

02:42 TR News; iophk: "As you point out, Norway is not short of money. But they are in a situation where it is necessary to up their cybersecurity game, as well as where they have additional benefits from increased flexibility and freedom." gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/08/GNU_Linux_Now_20_in_Norway_s_Desktops_Laptops_Over_10_Across_Al.gmi

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02:46 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-080624.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-080624.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-080624.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-080624.txt

02:46 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, June 08, 2024

02:47 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-080624.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-080624.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-080624.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-080624.txt

02:47 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, June 08, 2024

02:48 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-080624.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-080624.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-080624.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-080624.txt

02:48 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, June 08, 2024

02:49 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-080624.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-080624.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-080624.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-080624.txt

02:49 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, June 08, 2024

02:49 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2024-06-08.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2024-06-08.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)

02:49 TR News; Techrights IRC Proceedings: Saturday, June 08, 2024 https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/IRC_Proceedings_Saturday_June_08_2024.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/IRC_Proceedings_Saturday_June_08_2024.gmi

02:49 TR Bot; Techrights IRC Proceedings: Saturday, June 08, 2024

02:50 TR News; Yesterday's Tux Machines bulletin is now ready! : http://news.tuxmachines.org/txt-archives/tuxmachines-2024-06-08.txt

02:51 TR News; Techrights Over at Tux Machines... https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi

02:51 TR Bot; Techrights Over at Tux Machines...

02:52 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Today_in_Techrights.gmi

02:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights

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3 AM, June 9

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03:19 TR News; Techrights Microsoft's Windows Has Fallen to New Lows in India (Just 13.7% According to statCounter) https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Microsoft_s_Windows_Has_Fallen_to_New_Lows_in_India_Just_13_7_A.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Microsoft_s_Windows_Has_Fallen_to_New_Lows_in_India_Just_13_7_A.gmi

03:19 TR Bot; Techrights Microsoft's Windows Has Fallen to New Lows in India (Just 13.7% According to statCounter)

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03:24 TR News; Fisker Layoffs Hundreds Of Staff As Company Woes Continues https://autojosh.com/fisker-layoffs-hundreds-of-staff-as-company-woes-continues/

03:24 TR Bot; Fisker Layoffs Hundreds Of Staff As Company Woes Continues

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03:29 TR News; It looks like Red Hat paid them for these puff pieces https://www.channelfutures.com/channel-business/top-20-stories-may-2024 https://www.channelfutures.com/artificial-intelligence/red-hat-summit-where-open-source-meets-ai Red Hat later links to those puff pieces that it bought

03:29 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.channelfutures.com/channel-business/top-20-stories-may-2024 )

03:29 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.channelfutures.com/artificial-intelligence/red-hat-summit-where-open-source-meets-ai )

03:32 TR News; "We provide comprehensive marketing-as-a-service offerings via our Informa Engage platform which is used by todays leading ICT providers, advertisers and sponsors to better communicate directly with their trusted channel partners." https://www.channelfutures.com/about-us

03:32 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.channelfutures.com/about-us )

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03:37 IsambardPrince; https://www.thestreet.com/retail/struggling-housing-company-files-chapter-7-bankruptcy-liquidating

03:37 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.thestreet.com/retail/struggling-housing-company-files-chapter-7-bankruptcy-liquidating )

03:37 IsambardPrince; LOL

03:37 IsambardPrince; schestowitz-pi2: You get your own bedroom.

03:38 IsambardPrince; The Democrats have made rent unaffordable and have done nothing to address the problems caused by slumlords and airbnb and illegal rentals.

03:38 IsambardPrince; But you can pay these companies a lot of money and not even have your own kitchen or bathroom.

03:38 IsambardPrince; The State should be passing a law to ban airbnb before they go further, and into rent control.

03:39 IsambardPrince; But we might need rent control too.

03:52 IsambardPrince; More articles blaming minimum wage laws for fast food bankruptcies.

03:52 IsambardPrince; It's not the workers. It's largely incompetent and overcompensated corporate management and the landlords because they weren't smart enough to do their own real estate and buy it themselves when rates wre better.

4 AM, June 9

04:01 TR News; Techrights Puff Pieces as a Service (Fake Articles for Sponsors to Link to) https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Puff_Pieces_as_a_Service_Fake_Articles_for_Sponsors_to_Link_to.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Puff_Pieces_as_a_Service_Fake_Articles_for_Sponsors_to_Link_to.gmi

04:01 TR Bot; Techrights Puff Pieces as a Service (Fake Articles for Sponsors to Link to)

04:16 TR News; Techrights [Meme] The Web as a Source of News https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Meme_The_Web_as_a_Source_of_News.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Meme_The_Web_as_a_Source_of_News.gmi

04:16 TR Bot; Techrights [Meme] The Web as a Source of News

04:25 IsambardPrince; https://www.sfgate.com/la/article/herbalife-layoffs-execs-controversial-company-19499578.php

04:25 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.sfgate.com/la/article/herbalife-layoffs-execs-controversial-company-19499578.php )

04:26 IsambardPrince; https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/walmart-opposes-adding-panic-buttons-stores-2024-06-08/

04:26 TR Bot; ( status 401 @ https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/walmart-opposes-adding-panic-buttons-stores-2024-06-08/ )

04:28 IsambardPrince; https://neuters.de/world/europe/european-parliament-poised-rightward-shift-after-final-voting-2024-06-09/

04:28 TR Bot; European Parliament poised for rightward shift after final voting

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04:29 IsambardPrince; > Many voters have been hit by the cost of living crisis, have concerns about migration and the cost of the green transition and are disturbed by rising geopolitical tensions, including the war in Ukraine.

04:29 IsambardPrince; > Hard and far-right parties have seized on this disquiet and offered the electorate an alternative to the mainstream.

04:29 IsambardPrince; > European Greens, facing a backlash from hard-pressed households, farmers and industry over costly EU policies limiting CO2 emissions, look set to be among the big losers.

04:30 IsambardPrince; That's not good for the United States.

04:30 IsambardPrince; Generally we do better when some other part of the world is having a major crisis.

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04:31 IsambardPrince; Russia in the early 90s, the Asian financial market panic and Russian debt default in the late 90s, Europe and Canada destroying their economies with "green new deals".

04:32 IsambardPrince; If they get their acts together and realize all of these climate scams are just a kowtowing to China which is designed to absolutely decimate the living standards in the West and get us to commit Economic Suicide, then maybe they will be better off, and that will weaken demand for the US Dollar.

04:33 IsambardPrince; China talks out of both sides of its mouth. The reason that carbon dioxide levels are rising as fast as they ever have despite the US making huge cuts to CO2 emissions is because for very coal plant we shut down, China builds like five.

04:33 IsambardPrince; And the ones China builds are less efficient, with no scrubbers on them.

04:34 IsambardPrince; The NIPSCO coal plants in Indiana are so clean (particulates, sulfur dioxide, mercury, etc.) that you can put a kids park right next to them.

04:34 IsambardPrince; The ones in China put out so much smog that evening in Beijing, you can barely see two feet in front of you.

04:35 IsambardPrince; The left in the US is very good about panic-mongering, and using words like "sacrifice zones", and saying "they put them near Black people!".

04:35 IsambardPrince; But the truth is that since the early 90s or so, emitting pollutants that are a major concern to human health has been illegal as US power plants.

04:36 IsambardPrince; *at

04:36 IsambardPrince; And there's other problems, like, EVs.

04:36 IsambardPrince; Most of the grid still runs on fossil fuels. If not coal, gas.

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04:37 IsambardPrince; There's no law that says that companies have to cap off old wells when they're done, or account for incidental pollution that comes flying out of those wells, so getting the gas to run the plants, to make electricity for the cars is emitting methane into the open atmosphere that nobody gets to use for anything.

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04:39 TR News; Techrights For the First Time, Android Measured as Higher (in Web Usage) Than Windows in New Zealand https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/For_the_First_Time_Android_Measured_as_Higher_in_Web_Usage_Than.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/For_the_First_Time_Android_Measured_as_Higher_in_Web_Usage_Than.gmi

04:40 TR Bot; Techrights For the First Time, Android Measured as Higher (in Web Usage) Than Windows in New Zealand

04:57 TR News; NSA and GCHQ target Tor network that protects anonymity of web users https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/nsa-gchq-attack-tor-network-encryption

04:57 TR Bot; NSA and GCHQ target Tor network that protects anonymity of web users | The NSA files | The Guardian

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5 AM, June 9

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05:04 schestowitz[TR2]; https://www.mail-archive.com/discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu/msg00893.html

05:04 TR Bot; Re: NSA, GCHQ & Debian links, Jonathan Wiltshire, Tiger Computing?

05:04 schestowitz[TR2]; "

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05:04 schestowitz[TR2]; oops

05:05 schestowitz[TR2]; "

05:05 schestowitz[TR2]; If GCHQ wanted to infiltrate Debian then I have no doubt that they could

05:05 schestowitz[TR2]; do so. Are you asserting that they have done so?

05:05 schestowitz[TR2]; --

05:05 schestowitz[TR2]; Matthew Garrett | mj...@srcf.ucam.org"

05:05 schestowitz[TR2]; "Hi Daniel

05:05 schestowitz[TR2]; Could you walk us through this a little more clearly? Is the suggestion

05:05 schestowitz[TR2]; that GCHQ infiltrated DAM and that your expulsion from Debian was

05:05 schestowitz[TR2]; encouraged by individuals working for the British signal intelligence

05:05 schestowitz[TR2]; organisation?

05:05 schestowitz[TR2]; --

05:05 schestowitz[TR2]; Matthew Garrett | mj...@srcf.ucam.org"

05:06 schestowitz[TR2]; you can see who is targeting both us and pocock

05:06 schestowitz[TR2]; and covers up for spies

05:06 schestowitz[TR2]; on the surface

05:07 schestowitz[TR2]; "

05:07 schestowitz[TR2]; Is there any difference between GCHQ agents infiltrating Debian and

05:07 schestowitz[TR2]; Google apologists infiltrating Debian?"

05:09 schestowitz[TR2]; https://www.mail-archive.com/discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu/msg00909.html

05:09 TR Bot; Re: NSA, GCHQ & Debian links, Jonathan Wiltshire, Tiger Computing?

05:09 schestowitz[TR2]; "

05:09 schestowitz[TR2]; Many people choose to be in central London but the people who choose to

05:09 schestowitz[TR2]; be out in the countryside near GCHQ may not be there for agricultural work.

05:09 schestowitz[TR2]; Many people choose to be in central London but the people who choose to

05:09 schestowitz[TR2]; be out in the countryside near GCHQ may not be there for agricultural work.

05:09 schestowitz[TR2]; Many people choose to be in central London but the people who choose to

05:09 schestowitz[TR2]; be out in the countryside near GCHQ may not be there for agricultural work."

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05:32 IsambardPrince; > Jona Azizaj (she/her)

05:32 IsambardPrince; > @room DEI team meeting now See you on Google Meet

05:32 IsambardPrince; schestowitz[TR2]: DEI meeting on Google Meet!

05:32 IsambardPrince; (Fedora)

05:33 schestowitz[TR2]; Fedora and the Holocaust

05:33 schestowitz[TR2]; Diversity(TM)

05:33 IsambardPrince; They don't use Free Software to discuss this?

05:33 TR News; Techrights Edward Snowden's Leaks Proved That GCHQ Targeted Tor Network, So Why Not Other Security and Encryption Tools? https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Edward_Snowden_s_Leaks_Proved_That_GCHQ_Targeted_Tor_Network_So.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Edward_Snowden_s_Leaks_Proved_That_GCHQ_Targeted_Tor_Network_So.gmi

05:33 TR Bot; Techrights Edward Snowden's Leaks Proved That GCHQ Targeted Tor Network, So Why Not Other Security and Encryption Tools?

05:34 IsambardPrince; https://pointieststick.com/2024/06/07/these-past-two-weeks-in-kde-massive-stability-work-for-plasma-6-1/

05:34 TR Bot; These past two weeks in KDE: massive stability work for Plasma 6.1 Adventures in Linux and KDE

05:34 IsambardPrince; There's a lot of bugs to fix regarding Wayland.

05:35 IsambardPrince; Including reimplementing X11-like protocols on top of Wayland so that KDE continues functioning the way people have come to expect.

05:36 IsambardPrince; It seems they realize that IBM rules over Wayland with an iron fist, but that you can extend it with custom protocols that not everyone else (other desktops and toolkits) can consume.

05:36 IsambardPrince; :)

05:36 IsambardPrince; Certainly this won't lead to a mess.

05:37 schestowitz[TR2]; wayland barely solvezs issues

05:37 schestowitz[TR2]; it tackles some

05:37 schestowitz[TR2]; but to most users they are not issues

05:37 schestowitz[TR2]; on the route there more issues are created

05:37 schestowitz[TR2]; so why bother taking that route?

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05:37 schestowitz[TR2]; because of ICBM lobbying?

05:37 IsambardPrince; Including carrying around XWayland forever.

05:37 schestowitz[TR2]; hype?

05:38 schestowitz[TR2]; if they keep bits of X, are they solving many issues

05:38 schestowitz[TR2]; ?

05:38 schestowitz[TR2]; the x sec issues will be inherited

05:38 IsambardPrince; Nobody understands X11! Solution: Let's make something new and have X11 inside of it!

05:38 schestowitz[TR2]; they just ADD yet MORE code

05:38 schestowitz[TR2]; even code that is not mature

05:38 schestowitz[TR2]; so there may be more sec holes than before

05:38 schestowitz[TR2]; see systemd

05:38 schestowitz[TR2]; so many holes

05:38 IsambardPrince; Right, this is like X11.app on the Mac.

05:38 schestowitz[TR2]; like polkit issues

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05:38 IsambardPrince; X11 is synonymous with UNIX/POSIX even if that's not officially so.

05:39 IsambardPrince; It's been around for 40 years, lots of people aren't interested in X11.

05:39 IsambardPrince; Even if you were willing to port their application for them, they're not interested.

05:39 IsambardPrince; So there's XWayland, forever.

05:39 IsambardPrince; *aren't interested in porting from X11

05:40 IsambardPrince; Like, this is where IBM did more work.

05:40 IsambardPrince; Hundreds of patches to let XWayland take over the entire screen.

05:40 IsambardPrince; Then you lose your "security" claims.

05:41 IsambardPrince; Because when XWayland is there running an X11 windowing manager full screen, all applications have access to all input and all other applications.

05:41 IsambardPrince; The whole point of Rootful is to hurt non-Linux systems.

05:42 IsambardPrince; And that may be the entire point of Wayland too.

05:42 IsambardPrince; I think it already is with SystemD and GNOME.

05:43 IsambardPrince; https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=grave&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=crash&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_status=RESOLVED&chfield=bug_status&chfieldfrom=2024-5-24&chfieldto=2024-6-7&chfieldvalue=RESOLVED&list_id=2738228&order=component%2Cbug_status%2Cpriority%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_id&query_format=advanced&resolution=FIXED

05:43 TR Bot; Bug List

05:44 IsambardPrince; "294 KDE bugs of all kinds fixed over the last two weeks. Full list of bugs"

05:45 schestowitz[TR2]; IsambardPrince: can you narrow down by wayland?

05:45 IsambardPrince; 40 marked Wayland. 5 marked X11.

05:45 IsambardPrince; Either the component is Wayland or the bug is caused by an interaction with Wayland.

05:46 IsambardPrince; So they're fixing 8 Wayland-related bugs lately for every 1 that involves X11.

6 AM, June 9

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06:17 IsambardPrince; https://neuters.de/business/retail-consumer/walmart-pay-us-hourly-store-workers-bonuses-first-time-ever-2024-06-05/

06:17 TR Bot; Walmart offers bonus program to about 700,000 hourly US store workers

06:17 IsambardPrince; schestowitz[TR2]: Retailer with 40% annual employee turnover offers bonus of "up to" $1,000 for employees who have been there 20 years.

06:18 IsambardPrince; https://www.neuters.de/business/retail-consumer/sheins-pre-ipo-charm-offensive-hits-roadblocks-europe-2024-06-07/

06:18 TR Bot; Shein's pre-IPO charm offensive hits roadblocks in Europe

06:19 IsambardPrince; The wealthy and fashion designers hate Shein because anyone can afford to shop there (including my mother) and get dresses and things that look exactly the same as a "designer" dress.

06:19 IsambardPrince; Making dresses and handbags isn't expensive.

06:20 IsambardPrince; What's expensive is putting a "designer" label on it.

06:20 IsambardPrince; Burberry's incinerates clothing and stuff by the truckload rather than discount it.

06:20 IsambardPrince; It adds to the illusion that it's worth a lot of money.

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06:23 IsambardPrince; If one piece of clothing cost anything close to $500 to make, they would NEVER do that.

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06:31 TR News; Techrights Bullying by the Debian Project is a Disservice to Its Reputation and Its Community (of Volunteers and Users) https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Bullying_by_the_Debian_Project_is_a_Disservice_to_Its_Reputatio.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Bullying_by_the_Debian_Project_is_a_Disservice_to_Its_Reputatio.gmi

06:31 TR Bot; Techrights Bullying by the Debian Project is a Disservice to Its Reputation and Its Community (of Volunteers and Users)

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06:46 TR News; Techrights Netherlands: GNU/Linux and Chromebooks at About 5% - Highest in a Year https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Netherlands_GNU_Linux_and_Chromebooks_at_About_5_Highest_in_a_Y.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Netherlands_GNU_Linux_and_Chromebooks_at_About_5_Highest_in_a_Y.gmi

06:46 TR Bot; Techrights Netherlands: GNU/Linux and Chromebooks at About 5% - Highest in a Year

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07:12 IsambardPrince; schestowitz[TR2]: Regarding Debian being infiltrated, remember the broken pseudorandom number generator they shipped?

07:12 IsambardPrince; https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2013/09/20/software-transparency-debian-openssl-bug/

07:12 TR Bot; The Debian OpenSSL Bug: Backdoor or Security Accident? - Freedom to Tinker

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07:49 Sompi; The local labour force bureau has finally noticed that Microsoft Teams is a security risk and now they use something called "VideoVisit" as a replacement

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07:50 Sompi; That VideoVisit seems to be made by a Finnish company. It is proprietary so it is not any better than Teams. So they just replaced a proprietary spyware with another proprietary spyware

07:50 Sompi; And that VideoVisit doesn't even work. It only shows a loading animation and cannot connect the video streams

8 AM, June 9

08:07 IsambardPrince; Government.

08:08 IsambardPrince; I can't think of any way we'd actually be worse off if the Confederacy had won the civil war.

08:09 IsambardPrince; Would they too have me living in a building that's falling apart under some slumlord from India that doesn't fix anything and jacks the rent up?

08:09 IsambardPrince; Doesn't care if I have a toilet.

08:09 IsambardPrince; It only took this apartment complex a year to turn into India.

08:09 IsambardPrince; (No toilets. People squatting wherever.)

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08:37 IsambardPrince; schestowitz[TR2]: I decided to watch "They Live".

08:37 IsambardPrince; It's especially fitting for this day and age.

08:53 IsambardPrince; I like when he puts on the glasses and an ad that says "Come to the Caribbean" is hiding a subliminal that says "Marry and Reproduce".

08:54 IsambardPrince; "Work 8 hours. Sleep 8 hours. Play 8 hours."

08:54 IsambardPrince; Almost sounds like paradise compared with what we have now.

08:55 IsambardPrince; "Submit" "Obey" "No thought" "Conform" "Buy" "Consume"

08:55 IsambardPrince; LOL

08:57 IsambardPrince; LOL

08:57 IsambardPrince; He looks at money.

08:57 IsambardPrince; "This is your God."

9 AM, June 9

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09:45 schestowitz[TR2]; <IsambardPrince> schestowitz[TR2]: I decided to watch "They Live".

09:45 schestowitz[TR2]; good choice

09:46 schestowitz[TR2]; <IsambardPrince> schestowitz[TR2]: Regarding Debian being infiltrated, remember the broken pseudorandom number generator they shipped?

09:46 schestowitz[TR2]; oh, 20213

09:46 schestowitz[TR2]; but was that just Debian?

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09:48 TR News; "We cant connect to the server at www.pirateparty.org.uk."

09:50 schestowitz[TR2]; Sompi: they identiffied the problem

09:50 schestowitz[TR2]; but didn't make a good solution

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09:54 TR News; (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Software https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.gmi

09:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best Free and Open Source Software

09:55 TR News; "As part of a copyright infringement lawsuit against DoodStream" https://torrentfreak.com/court-bans-doodstreams-owners-associates-from-running-the-site-240608/ | Source: Torrent Freak

09:55 TR Bot; Bans DoodStream's Owners & Associates From Running The Site * TorrentFreak

09:55 TR News; "Three years ago, I described how the idea that SARS-CoV-2" https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2024/06/08/the-new-york-times-goes-all-in-on-lab-leak/ |

09:55 TR Bot; The New York Times goes all in on "lab leak" - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE

09:58 TR News; "With companies desperate to keep adding more and more seemingly random features to their products" https://hackaday.com/2024/06/08/oral-b-hopes-you-didnt-use-your-230-alexa-enabled-toothbrush/ | Source: Hackaday

09:58 TR Bot; Hopes You Didnt Use Your $230 Alexa-Enabled Toothbrush | Hackaday

09:59 TR News; "Many hackers have familiar sayings in their heads" https://hackaday.com/2024/06/08/embrace-ipv6-before-its-too-late/ | Source: Hackaday

09:59 TR Bot; IPv6 Before Its Too Late? | Hackaday

10 AM, June 9

10:01 TR News; "hey, everyone needs a hobby, and we dont judge" https://hackaday.com/2024/06/08/screwless-eyeballs-are-a-lesson-in-design-for-assembly/ | Source: Hackaday

10:01 TR Bot; Eyeballs Are A Lesson In Design-For-Assembly | Hackaday

10:06 TR News; The widespread availability of inexpensive 3D printers has brought about a revolution

10:07 TR News; "The widespread availability of inexpensive 3D printers has brought about a revolution" https://hackaday.com/2024/06/08/gas-tight-fdm-3d-printing-is-within-your-grasp/ | Source: Hackaday

10:07 TR Bot; FDM 3D Printing Is Within Your Grasp | Hackaday

10:09 TR News; "XScreenSaver 6.09 out now" https://www.jwz.org/blog/2024/06/xscreensaver-6-09-out-now/

10:09 TR Bot; jwz: XScreenSaver 6.09 out now

10:12 TR News; social control media https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https://www.version2.dk/artikel/ringe-regulering-af-sociale-medier-mener-ud-af-tre-danskere

10:12 TR Bot; For ringe regulering af sociale medier, mener to ud af tre danskere | Version2

10:14 TR News; russia https://hackaday.com/2024/06/08/how-many-western-ics-are-there-in-russias-weapons/ | Source: Hackaday

10:14 TR Bot; Many Western ICs Are There In Russias Weapons? | Hackaday

10:14 TR News; Happy Birthday, Tetris! https://hackaday.com/2024/06/08/happy-birthday-tetris/ | Source: Hackaday

10:14 TR Bot; Birthday, Tetris! | Hackaday

10:15 TR News; "We think its OK to admit that when someone puts a binary display on a project" https://hackaday.com/2024/06/08/baffle-the-normies-with-this-binary-thermometer/ | Source: Hackaday

10:15 TR Bot; The Normies With This Binary Thermometer | Hackaday

10:21 IsambardPrince; [03:46] <schestowitz[TR2]> but was that just Debian?

10:22 IsambardPrince; I don't think that made it into Ubuntu.

10:22 TR News; "The Tulip Creative Computer is powered by the ESP32-S3 chip" https://linuxgizmos.com/tulip-creative-computer-esp32-based-board-for-music-and-coding-projects/ | Source: Linux Gizmos

10:22 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/tulip-creative-computer-esp32-based-board-for-music-and-coding-projects/ )

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10:23 TR News; "a male USB-C connector"... ooooh, some people will get offended by this text https://linuxgizmos.com/thingpulse-pendrive-s3-versatile-as-both-a-lightweight-wi-fi-disk-and-rubber-ducky-device/ | Source: Linux Gizmos

10:23 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/thingpulse-pendrive-s3-versatile-as-both-a-lightweight-wi-fi-disk-and-rubber-ducky-device/ )

10:24 TR News; (NEW): ExTiX Ubuntu-based Linux distribution https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/ExTiX_Ubuntu_based_Linux_distribution.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/ExTiX_Ubuntu_based_Linux_distribution.gmi

10:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines ExTiX Ubuntu-based Linux distribution

10:24 TR News; "In this post, we will cover how to setup Bind Server on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (Noble Numbat) step by step." https://www.linuxbuzz.com/setup-bind-server-on-ubuntu/ | Source: Linux Buzz

10:24 TR Bot; How to Setup Bind Server on Ubuntu 24.04

10:24 cblinux; Sompi, thanks for the data from Finland. Videoconferencing can be traced back to a popular science fiction meme. But hacker collectives get work done (linux kernel, gnu, bsd) without it, only bureaucrats and politicians fell for this clumsy, expensive and insecure communications fad https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/07/cisco_fixes_webex_flaw_which/

10:24 TR Bot; Cisco fixes WebEx flaw after government comms exposed The Register

10:25 schestowitz[TR2]; Sompi: response from a friend:

10:25 schestowitz[TR2]; "They should be using BigBlueButton or Jisti-Meet (which is different from

10:25 schestowitz[TR2]; Jitsi)

10:25 schestowitz[TR2]; "

10:28 TR News; "Why should scale let someone get away with copyright" https://rubenerd.com/creative-commons-evaluates-eu-ai-legislation/ | Source: Ruben Schade

10:28 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd

10:29 TR News; "The notifications sent to users of Facebook and Instagram in Europe" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/can-you-opt-out-of-metas-ai-scraping-sort-of/articleshow/110812275.cms | Source: India Times

10:29 TR Bot; AI scraping: Can you opt out of Meta's AI scraping? Sort of - The Economic Times

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10:31 TR News; "To the extent data has been aggregated or resides in the hands of a small few" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/explainer-why-the-few-big-ai-players-worry-us-antitrust-regulators/articleshow/110813350.cms | Source: India Times

10:31 TR Bot; AI players: Explainer: Why the few big AI players worry US antitrust regulators - The Economic Times

10:31 TR News; "Because non-monetary demands are heard by judges directly in antitrust cases" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/judge-rules-google-will-not-face-jury-trial-in-us-digital-ads-case/articleshow/110814383.cms | Source: India Times

10:31 TR Bot; Google: Judge rules Google will not face jury trial in US digital ads case - The Economic Times

10:32 TR News; "The statement from a Sphere Entertainment spokesperson, issued Saturday afternoon" https://variety.com/2024/music/news/sphere-rescinds-ban-phish-bong-concert-user-1236029719/ | Source: Variety

10:32 TR Bot; Sphere Rescinds Ban on Phish Show's Bragging Bong Dude

10:33 schestowitz[TR2]; "Anything based on open standards at the minimum, but ideally also on

10:33 schestowitz[TR2]; Free and Open Source Software

10:33 schestowitz[TR2]; "

10:34 TR News; "The Los Gatos, California, company, based more than 300 miles away from Hollywood" https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2024-06-08/netflixs-recipe-for-success-includes-secret-sauce-spiced-with-silicon-valley-savvy | Source: US News And World Report

10:34 TR Bot; stream 1 was not closed cleanly: INTERNAL_ERROR (err 2) ( status 0 @ https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2024-06-08/netflixs-recipe-for-success-includes-secret-sauce-spiced-with-silicon-valley-savvy )

10:36 TR News; "Furthermore, the communications regulation agency proposes" https://www.securityweek.com/fcc-proposes-bgp-security-reporting-for-broadband-providers/ | Source: Security Week

10:36 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.securityweek.com/fcc-proposes-bgp-security-reporting-for-broadband-providers/ )

10:37 TR News; "This weekends side quest: installing Starlink as my second internet provider." https://carlosbecker.com/posts/starlink-unifi/ | Source: Carlos Becker

10:37 TR Bot; Starlink: installation, first impressions, and running it through UniFi

10:39 TR News; (NEW): Your Default Linux Terminal Emulator Is Dull, So Take These Alternatives for a Spin https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Your_Default_Linux_Terminal_Emulator_Is_Dull_So_Take_These_Alte.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Your_Default_Linux_Terminal_Emulator_Is_Dull_So_Take_These_Alte.gmi

10:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Your Default Linux Terminal Emulator Is Dull, So Take These Alternatives for a Spin

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10:42 TR News; "While performing a fake mass shooting with high schoolers was obviously a terrible idea" https://reason.com/2024/06/07/vermont-cops-terrorize-high-school-students-with-mock-shooting/ | Source: Reason

10:42 TR Bot; Vermont Cops Terrorize High School Students With 'Mock Shooting'

10:43 TR News; "The use of AI tools in job hunting is becoming widespread." https://www.wired.com/story/ai-cartoon-next-job/ | Source: Wired

10:43 TR Bot; AI Cartoon May Interview You for Your Next Job | WIRED

10:44 TR News; (NEW): Ventoy 1.0.99 Bootable USB Drive Creator Enhances EFI Boot https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Ventoy_1_0_99_Bootable_USB_Drive_Creator_Enhances_EFI_Boot.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Ventoy_1_0_99_Bootable_USB_Drive_Creator_Enhances_EFI_Boot.gmi

10:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ventoy 1.0.99 Bootable USB Drive Creator Enhances EFI Boot

10:44 TR News; "The former newspaper and TV reporter had led the media watchdog since 2012" https://www.dw.com/en/reporters-without-borders-chief-dies-of-cancer-aged-53/a-69311739 | Source: Deutsche Welle

10:44 TR Bot; Without Borders chief dies of cancer aged 53 DW 06/08/2024

10:45 TR News; "Deloire helped Russian broadcast journalist Marina Ovsiannikova flee Russia" https://www.voanews.com/a/reporters-without-borders-chief-dies-at-53-/7648316.html | Source: VOA News

10:45 TR Bot; 'Reporters Without Borders' chief, dies at 53

10:49 TR News; (NEW): Fedora Plans to Switch Anaconda Installer to Wayland https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Fedora_Plans_to_Switch_Anaconda_Installer_to_Wayland.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Fedora_Plans_to_Switch_Anaconda_Installer_to_Wayland.gmi

10:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Fedora Plans to Switch Anaconda Installer to Wayland

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10:52 TR News; "While Vietnam has introduced sweeping economic reform and is increasingly open to social change" https://www.dw.com/en/vietnam-detains-journalist-over-facebook-posts/a-69309334 | Source: Deutsche Welle

10:52 TR Bot; detains journalist over Facebook posts DW 06/08/2024

10:55 TR News; "There is nothing to stop candidates from running under the banner of a party" https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/bridge-elections-faq-are-republicans-running-fake-democrats | Source: Bridge Michigan

10:55 TR Bot; Bridge elections FAQ: Are Republicans running as fake Democrats? | Bridge Michigan

10:55 TR News; "If you dont have a good answer, thats also an answer for both parties." https://rubenerd.com/what-are-you-doing-to-keep-them/ | Source: Ruben Schade

10:55 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd

10:55 TR News; "tech companies have screwed over their customers" https://82mhz.net/posts/2024/06/the-end-of-the-good-guy-tech-company/ | Source: Andreas

10:55 TR Bot; The end of the good guy tech company - 82MHz

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12:53 psydruid; https://www.techradar.com/pro/qualcomm-snapdragon-x-elite-prototype-that-runs-linux-emerges-from-a-brand-youve-probably-never-heard-of-schenker-tuxedo-has-12-core-cpu-with-32gb-ram-and-surprise-surprise-debian

12:53 TR Bot; Snapdragon X Elite prototype that runs Linux emerges from a brand you've probably never heard of Schenker Tuxedo has 12-core CPU with 32GB RAM and surprise, surprise, Debian | TechRadar

12:53 psydruid; https://www.computerbase.de/2024-06/linux-on-arm-tuxedo-arbeitet-an-notebook-mit-snapdragon-x-elite/

12:53 TR Bot; Linux on Arm: Tuxedo arbeitet an Notebook mit Snapdragon X Elite - ComputerBase

1 PM, June 9

13:18 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21102523

13:18 TR Bot; WHOOPSIE

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13:44 TR News; "Unlike gas-powered engineswhich are made up of thousands of parts that shift" https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/06/electric-car-battery-longevity-right-to-repair/678641/ | Source: The Atlantic

13:44 TR Bot; Could Your First EV Be the Last Car You Ever Buy? - The Atlantic

13:44 TR News; "From an ecologists perspective" https://blog.martin-haehnel.de/2024/06/08/daystooffload-oulu-appreciating.html | Source: Martin Hhne

13:44 TR Bot; #100DaysToOffload #Oulu - Appreciating historical monuments // Martin Hhnel

13:46 TR News; "The timing of the attack was not coincidental" https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/06/pro-russia-cyber-attack-targets-netherlands-parties-on-first-day-of-european-elections/ | Source: JURIST

13:46 TR Bot; Pro-Russia cyber attack targets Netherlands parties on first day of European elections - JURIST - News

13:46 TR News; "If you go back through the press, 10-15 years ago" https://bianet.org/haber/turkey-ranks-first-in-europe-in-prison-population-growth-296273 | Source: BIA Net

13:46 TR Bot; Turkey ranks first in Europe in prison population growth

13:46 TR News; "Her marriage was not enough to save her because escapees in China are undocumented" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/north-geneva-escapees-forced-repatriation-06062024124939.html | Source: RFA

13:46 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/north-geneva-escapees-forced-repatriation-06062024124939.html )

13:47 TR News; "pledged allegiance to Islamic State" https://www.voanews.com/a/suspected-islamists-kill-dozens-in-attack-on-eastern-congo-villages/7648236.html | Source: VOA News

13:47 TR Bot; Suspected Islamists kill dozens in attack on eastern Congo villages

13:50 TR News; "European Center for Digital Rights" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/meta-hit-with-privacy-complaints-over-ai-plans/articleshow/110826228.cms | Source: India Times

13:50 TR Bot; Meta: Meta hit with privacy complaints over AI plans - The Economic Times

13:50 TR News; "Recall will be available for personal computers that comply with the company" https://siliconangle.com/2024/06/07/microsoft-makes-windows-recall-feature-opt-following-cybersecurity-concerns/ | Source: Silicon Angle

13:50 TR Bot; makes Windows Recall feature opt-in following cybersecurity concerns - SiliconANGLE

13:52 TR News; Windows TCO https://www.axios.com/2024/06/07/space-weapons-cyber-warfare-us-defense | Source: Axios

13:52 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2024/06/07/space-weapons-cyber-warfare-us-defense )

13:58 TR News; Fake Articles About "Linux" https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/07/Fake_Articles_About_Linux.shtml

13:58 TR Bot; Techrights Fake Articles About "Linux"

13:58 TR News; SPAM Factory: Fake 'Articles' About GNU/Linux Still Published by Brittany Day (LinuxSecurity) https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/08/SPAM_Factory_Fake_Articles_About_Linux_Still_Published_by_Britt.shtml

13:58 TR Bot; Techrights SPAM Factory: Fake 'Articles' About Linux Still Published by Brittany Day (LinuxSecurity)

13:58 TR News; GNU/Linux Leaps Past 3% in Brunei Darussalam https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/08/GNU_Linux_Leaps_Past_3_in_Brunei_Darussalam.shtml

13:58 TR Bot; Techrights GNU/Linux Leaps Past 3% in Brunei Darussalam

13:59 TR News; Netherlands: GNU/Linux and Chromebooks at About 5% - Highest in a Year https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Netherlands_GNU_Linux_and_Chromebooks_at_About_5_Highest_in_a_Y.shtml

13:59 TR Bot; Techrights Netherlands: GNU/Linux and Chromebooks at About 5% - Highest in a Year

13:59 *fury999i- is now known as fury999io

2 PM, June 9

14:00 TR News; "The only thing more terrifying than a company that deals in unchecked" https://www.voanews.com/a/us-lawmakers-call-for-scrutiny-of-newsbreak-app-over-chinese-origins/7648207.html | Source: VOA News

14:00 TR Bot; US lawmakers call for scrutiny of NewsBreak app over Chinese origins

14:00 TR News; "AP signed a deal" https://pressgazette.co.uk/publishers/wires_and_agencies/advertising-philanthropy-and-ai-how-the-ap-is-diversifying-its-revenue-streams/ | Source: Press Gazette

14:00 TR Bot; How Associated Press is future-proofing revenues - Press Gazette

14:01 TR News; "And as a result its seen close to 250,000 unique visits in two and a half weeks" https://tedium.co/2024/06/07/small-website-tools-importance/ | Source: Tedium

14:01 TR Bot; Small Tools: What The Internet Needs In 2024

14:02 TR News; "The first issue, tracked as CVE-2024-28996" https://www.securityweek.com/solarwinds-patches-high-severity-vulnerability-reported-by-nato-pentester/ | Source: Security Week

14:02 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.securityweek.com/solarwinds-patches-high-severity-vulnerability-reported-by-nato-pentester/ )

14:02 TR News; "As a researcher who studies both online communities and AI ethics" https://theconversation.com/ai-chatbots-are-intruding-into-online-communities-where-people-are-trying-to-connect-with-other-humans-229473 | Source: The Conversation

14:02 TR Bot; AI chatbots are intruding into online communities where people are trying to connect with other humans

14:05 TR News; "addictive algorithms" https://kansasreflector.com/2024/06/07/prodded-by-fed-up-parents-some-in-congress-try-to-curb-kids-use-of-social-media/ | Source: Kansas Reflector

14:05 TR Bot; Prodded by fed up parents, some in Congress try to curb kids use of social media Kansas Reflector

14:05 TR News; "The bills' sponsors also cite studies linking higher rates of depression, anxiety" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/new-york-lawmakers-pass-measure-to-protect-youths-on-social-media/articleshow/110811654.cms | Source: India Times

14:05 TR Bot; social media: New York lawmakers pass measure to protect youths on social media - The Economic Times

14:05 TR News; "Under the new legislation, social media companies would display content" https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/06/new-york-passes-legislation-to-curb-addictive-social-media-algorithms-for-children/ | Source: JURIST

14:05 TR Bot; New York passes legislation to curb 'addictive' social media algorithms for children - JURIST - News

14:06 TR News; "Rules require expert opinion" https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/junk-science-is-being-used-in-courtrooms-across-australia-we-should-all-be-worried-20240609-p5jkch.html | Source: The Age AU

14:06 TR Bot; Junk science is being used in courtrooms across Australia. We should all be worried

14:06 TR News; "I had lunch today with a couple of guys I've known for more than twenty years." https://louplummer.lol/post/adults-making-friends | Source: Lou Plummer

14:06 TR Bot; Adults Making Friends | Living Out Loud

14:07 TR News; "I was away much of last week, using my laptop rather than my desktop machine." https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog/distinguishing-my-machines | Source: Jeremy Cherfas

14:07 TR Bot; Distinguishing my machines | Jeremy Cherfas

14:08 TR News; "This resulted in a very particualar situation." https://michal.sapka.me/unix-history/03_unix_wars/ | Source: Micha Sapka

14:08 TR Bot; History of Unix part III: Forks and Wars @ Micha Sapka's website

14:09 TR News; "Its a dense read, but could be interesting if youre into federation." https://birchtree.me/blog/what-happens-when-you-defederate-a-server/ | Source: Matt Birchler

14:09 TR Bot; What happens when you defederate a server

14:09 TR News; "Now for the tough/fun part; figuring out how to transfer the idea for a multimedia player from my mind" https://www.instructables.com/Media-Player-With-Raspberry-Pi-Retrofit-Vintage-Cl/ | Source: Instructables

14:10 TR Bot; Player With Raspberry Pi - Retrofit Vintage Clock Radio : 9 Steps (with Pictures) - Instructables

14:10 TR News; "Mikes vision and dedication were instrumental in shaping the FreeBSD" https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-announce/2024-June/000135.html | Source: FreeBSD

14:10 TR Bot; In Memory of Mike Karels

14:11 TR News; "These days any development I do for myself will use nix to" https://mediocregopher.com/posts/init-project | Source: Mediocregopher

14:11 TR Bot; Simple Script to Initialize nix-Based Projects - mediocregopher's lil web corner

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14:13 TR News; "When I played the CD version it became clear" https://www.windytan.com/2020/12/plotting-patterns-in-music-with-fantasy.html | Source: Oona Risnen

14:13 TR Bot; absorptions: Plotting patterns in music with a fantasy record player

14:14 TR News; "At the start of the year I restored a lot of old posts to this site from a WordPress backup." https://chrismcleod.dev/blog/post-restoration-project-dealing-with-wordpress-post-kinds-data/ | Source: Chris McLeod

14:14 TR Bot; Post Restoration Project - Dealing with WordPress Post-Kinds Data Chris McLeod

14:14 TR News; "A while back I wrote about how metrics have many different uses" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/OperatingServicesVsEnvironment | Source: University of Toronto

14:14 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/OperatingServicesVsEnvironment

14:14 TR News; "Here comes the beautiful part. You dont have to do anything. Deploying your own copy of LogAnalyzer is as simple as 1, 2, 3." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/06/loganalyzer-an-easy-to-use-log-monitoring-tool-for-r-shiny-applications/ | Source: Rlang

14:14 TR Bot; An Easy-to-Use Log Monitoring Tool for R/Shiny Applications | R-bloggers

14:16 TR News; "The answer is, in task 1!" https://blog.dave.tf/post/linux-pid0/ | Source: Dave Anderson

14:16 TR Bot; is PID 0? blog.dave.tf

14:17 TR News; 2024-06-08 dmv.org https://computer.rip/2024-06-08-dmv.org.html

14:17 TR Bot; 2024-06-08 dmv.org

14:26 TR News; How To Install Anaconda on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-anaconda-ubuntu-24-04/

14:26 TR Bot; How To Install Anaconda on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS - idroot

14:26 TR News; How To Install Anaconda on Fedora 40 https://idroot.us/install-anaconda-fedora-40/

14:26 TR Bot; How To Install Anaconda on Fedora 40 - idroot

14:26 TR News; How to Install MySQL Server on Ubuntu 24.04 https://tecadmin.net/how-to-install-mysql-server-on-ubuntu-24-04/

14:26 TR Bot; How to Install MySQL Server on Ubuntu 24.04 TecAdmin

14:26 TR News; The Notorious, Catastrophic 2008 Debian OpenSSH Vulnerability (updated) https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/08/The_Notorious_Catastrophic_2008_Debian_OpenSSH_Vulnerability.shtml

14:26 TR Bot; Techrights The Notorious, Catastrophic 2008 Debian OpenSSH Vulnerability

14:28 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/today_s_howtos.gmi

14:28 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

14:29 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Security_Leftovers.gmi

14:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers

14:30 TR News; "I've spent the past two days tracking down a bug, and I think it's a library issue. So I have this program I wrote some time ago that uses Xlib [1] and for reasons, I needed to store a 64-bit value that's related to a window. This is easy enough with setting a window property." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2024/04/04.1

14:31 TR News; My Excitement for The Acolyte, Star Wars, and Starting Star Trek gemini://auragem.letz.dev/~clseibold/20240608.gmi

14:31 TR News; Im a paranoid schizophrenic with surround-sound speakers gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/adiabatic/scrawlspace/2024/

14:32 MinceR; 09 151613 < techrights-news> "The answer is, in task 1!" https://blog.dave.tf/post/linux-pid0/ | Source: Dave Anderson

14:32 MinceR; too bad dave is a cancerd cultist

14:32 TR News; SpellBinding: ACWILTD Wordo: ROOTY gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2024-06-09.gmi

14:32 schestowitz[TR2]; MinceR: inter-pid

14:33 TR News; "The word its is a difficult and weird word since its the possessive case and possessive noun clauses usually do end with s, like Marys chain. We dont have anything similar in Swedish, either (we would write Marias ktting), so I have no intuition for this and its one of my most common English mistakes." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/its

14:34 TR News; "I got asked a rhetorical question the other day after I said that I believe that people and policies are to a large extent influenced by market forces, like advertising." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/gravel

14:35 TR News; "When I think of modernism I think of the search for the perfect system, the grand unified theory, the silver bullet that holds everything together. An end to the patchwork of folk wisdom, replaced by a directed effort to put everything in order based on one foundational truth." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/incomplete-systems

14:36 TR News; "Presently am I learning RISC OS 5.30 on my Raspberry Pi Zero W. I want to write some programs and I learned C back in University. I am familiar with C on POSIX systems but not on RISC OS. These are my notes to remind myself how things work differently on RISC OS." gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/rsdoiel/blog/2024/06/08/riscos_gcc_and_hello.md

14:38 TR News; Kate Fun Logo https://kate-editor.org/post/2024/2024-06-08-kate-fun-logo/

14:38 TR Bot; Kate Fun Logo - Kate

14:38 TR News; For the First Time, Android Measured as Higher (in Web Usage) Than backdoored Windows in New Zealand https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/For_the_First_Time_Android_Measured_as_Higher_in_Web_Usage_Than.shtml

14:38 TR Bot; Techrights For the First Time, Android Measured as Higher (in Web Usage) Than Windows in New Zealand

14:38 TR News; Djibouti: backdoored Windows Falls Below 15% (It Used to be Almost 100%!), Android Surges to Almost 80% https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/08/Djibouti_Windows_Falls_Below_15_It_Used_to_be_Almost_100_Androi.shtml

14:38 TR Bot; Techrights Djibouti: Windows Falls Below 15% (It Used to be Almost 100%!), Android Surges to Almost 80%

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14:40 TR News; South Koreas doctors plan June 18 walk-out, strike to protest against reforms https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/south-koreas-doctors-plan-june-18-strike-to-protest-reforms

14:40 TR Bot; South Koreas doctors plan June 18 walk-out, strike to protest against reforms | The Straits Times

14:40 TR News; Crackers, spouses, bosses will turn that on https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/microsoft-backtracks-on-new-recall-feature-enhancing-recalls-security-and-making-it-an-opt-in-decision

14:40 TR Bot; Microsoft backtracks on new Recall feature enhancing Recall's security and making it an opt-in decision | Tom's Hardware

14:41 TR News; GNOME Expects to Use New Showtime as Core Video Player https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2024/06/gnome-video-player-showtime/

14:41 TR Bot; GNOME Expects to Use New Showtime as Core Video Player | UbuntuHandbook

14:43 TR News; (NEW): Software: Showtime, Kate, XScreenSaver https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Software_Showtime_Kate_XScreenSaver.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Software_Showtime_Kate_XScreenSaver.gmi

14:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Software: Showtime, Kate, XScreenSaver

14:46 TR News; (NEW): BSD Developer Mike Karels Dies, FreeBSD 13 Testing https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/05/BSD_Developer_Mike_Karels_Dies_FreeBSD_13_Testing.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/05/BSD_Developer_Mike_Karels_Dies_FreeBSD_13_Testing.gmi

14:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines BSD Developer Mike Karels Dies, FreeBSD 13 Testing

14:50 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/today_s_leftovers.gmi

14:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers

14:56 TR News; Techrights Gemini Links 09/06/2024: Advertising and RISC OS 5.30 https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Gemini_Links_09_06_2024_Advertising_and_RISC_OS_5_30.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Gemini_Links_09_06_2024_Advertising_and_RISC_OS_5_30.gmi

14:56 TR Bot; Techrights Gemini Links 09/06/2024: Advertising and RISC OS 5.30

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3 PM, June 9

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15:26 TR News; Propagandists are using Hey Hi (AI) tooand companies need to be open about it https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/06/08/1093356/propagandists-are-using-ai-too-and-companies-need-to-be-open-about-it/

15:26 TR Bot; Propagandists are using AI too | MIT Technology Review

15:33 admfubar; https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/09/patients-charged-hospital-facility-fees

15:33 TR Bot; US patients charged for hospital facility fees even if they dont set foot in one | US healthcare | The Guardian

15:34 admfubar; eeeeewwwwww... https://www.theguardian.com/food/article/2024/jun/09/raw-milk-powdered-meat-smoothie-erewhon

15:34 TR Bot; Playing Russian roulette with your health: my encounter with LAs raw-milk, powdered-meat smoothie | Food | The Guardian

15:36 TR News; Techrights Links 09/06/2024: Microsoft Adds Windows Mass Surveillance (Recall) in Hibernation First (Boiling Frog, Like UEFI 'Secure' Boot) https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Links_09_06_2024_Microsoft_Adds_Windows_Mass_Surveillance_Recal.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Links_09_06_2024_Microsoft_Adds_Windows_Mass_Surveillance_Recal.gmi

15:36 TR Bot; Techrights Links 09/06/2024: Microsoft Adds Windows Mass Surveillance (Recall) in Hibernation First (Boiling Frog, Like UEFI 'Secure' Boot)

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15:51 TR News; (NEW): June 10: Tux Machines Turns 20! https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/June_10_Tux_Machines_Turns_20.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/June_10_Tux_Machines_Turns_20.gmi

15:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines June 10: Tux Machines Turns 20!

4 PM, June 9

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16:34 TR News; South Korea accused of modern slavery with seasonal worker scheme https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/south-korea-accused-of-modern-slavery-with-seasonal-worker-scheme

16:34 TR Bot; South Korea accused of modern slavery with seasonal worker scheme | The Straits Times

16:34 TR News; Seoul to resume loudspeaker propaganda broadcasts into North Korea https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20240609-seoul-says-it-will-resume-loudspeaker-propaganda-campaigns-against-north-korea-south-korea-pyongyang

16:34 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20240609-seoul-says-it-will-resume-loudspeaker-propaganda-campaigns-against-north-korea-south-korea-pyongyang )

16:37 TR News; Nvidias Jensen Huang responds to backlash in China over his calling Taiwan a country https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/nvidia-s-jensen-huang-responds-to-backlash-in-china-over-his-calling-taiwan-a-country

16:37 TR Bot; Nvidias Jensen Huang responds to backlash in China over his calling Taiwan a country | The Straits Times

16:49 TR News; MineClonia updated https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/MineClonia

16:49 TR Bot; MineClonia - Free Software Directory

16:52 TR News; Hey Hi (AI) Hey Hi (AI) Hey Hi (AI) Hey Hi (AI) Hey Hi (AI) Hey Hi (AI) Hey Hi (AI) Hey Hi (AI) Hey Hi (AI) Hey Hi (AI) Hey Hi (AI) Hey Hi (AI) Hey Hi (AI) Hey Hi (AI) https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/09/technology/siri-apple-ai-chatgpt.html

16:52 TR Bot; Hey, Siri! Lets Talk About How Apple Is Giving You an A.I. Makeover. - The New York Times

16:57 TR News; Who else will pluck the tea? Birthplace of South Korean green tea grapples with labour shortage https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/who-else-will-pluck-the-tea-birthplace-of-south-korean-green-tea-grapples-with-labour-shortage

16:57 TR Bot; Who else will pluck the tea? Birthplace of South Korean green tea grapples with labour shortage | The Straits Times

5 PM, June 9

17:01 TR News; "a lot of the companies you might find on social control media are scams" https://blog.zgp.org/business-recommendations/

17:01 TR Bot; business recommendations

17:02 TR News; Reporters Without Borders demands immediate release of Vietnam journalist amid crackdown on press https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/06/reporters-without-borders-demands-immediate-release-of-vietnam-journalist-amid-crackdown-on-press/

17:02 TR Bot; Reporters Without Borders demands immediate release of Vietnam journalist amid crackdown on press - JURIST - News

17:02 TR News; Preserving Information About Debian's SSH Blunder (Amid Revelations About Edward Brocklesby (ejb) and "Proximity to Oxford and GCHQ") https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/08/Preserving_Information_About_Debian_s_SSH_Blunder_Amid_Revelati.shtml

17:02 TR Bot; Techrights Preserving Information About Debian's SSH Blunder (Amid Revelations About Edward Brocklesby (ejb) and "Proximity to Oxford and GCHQ")

17:03 TR News; The Mainstream Press and National Media Became Like Tabloids https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/08/The_Mainstream_Press_and_National_Media_Became_Like_Tabloids.shtml

17:03 TR Bot; Techrights The Mainstream Press and National Media Became Like Tabloids

17:03 TR News; [Meme] Debbie Yan Diversity: Can't Code, But Have Many Hair Styles https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/08/Meme_Debbie_Yan_Diversity_Can_t_Code_But_Have_Many_Hair_Styles.shtml

17:03 TR Bot; Techrights [Meme] Debbie Yan Diversity: Can't Code, But Have Many Hair Styles

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17:04 TR News; Microsoft's backdoored Windows Has Fallen to New Lows in India (Just 13.7% According to statCounter) https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Microsoft_s_Windows_Has_Fallen_to_New_Lows_in_India_Just_13_7_A.shtml

17:04 TR Bot; Techrights Microsoft's Windows Has Fallen to New Lows in India (Just 13.7% According to statCounter)

17:04 TR News; [Meme] The Web as a Source of News https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Meme_The_Web_as_a_Source_of_News.shtml

17:04 TR Bot; Techrights [Meme] The Web as a Source of News

17:04 TR News; Bullying by the Debian Project is a Disservice to Its Reputation and Its Community (of Volunteers and Users) https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Bullying_by_the_Debian_Project_is_a_Disservice_to_Its_Reputatio.shtml

17:04 TR Bot; Techrights Bullying by the Debian Project is a Disservice to Its Reputation and Its Community (of Volunteers and Users)

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17:07 TR News; Party and Running Without a Party (EU) (updated) https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/07/Party_and_Running_Without_a_Party_EU.shtml

17:07 TR Bot; Techrights Party and Running Without a Party (EU)

17:08 TR News; Debian Project Does Not Care About Freedom Anymore, It Only Cares About Its Image and Elite Interests Inside the Project (updated) https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/08/Debian_Project_Does_Not_Care_About_Freedom_Anymore_It_Only_Care.shtml

17:08 TR Bot; Techrights Debian Project Does Not Care About Freedom Anymore, It Only Cares About Its Image and Elite Interests Inside the Project

17:08 TR News; Puff Pieces as a Service (Fake Articles for Sponsors to Link to) (updated) https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Puff_Pieces_as_a_Service_Fake_Articles_for_Sponsors_to_Link_to.shtml

17:08 TR Bot; Techrights Puff Pieces as a Service (Fake Articles for Sponsors to Link to)

17:08 TR News; Edward Snowden's Leaks Proved That GCHQ Targeted Tor Network, So Why Not Other Security and Encryption Tools? (updated) https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Edward_Snowden_s_Leaks_Proved_That_GCHQ_Targeted_Tor_Network_So.shtml

17:08 TR Bot; Techrights Edward Snowden's Leaks Proved That GCHQ Targeted Tor Network, So Why Not Other Security and Encryption Tools?

17:16 TR News; ACEBOTT QE007 review An ESP32-based Smart Home STEAM education kit for 8+ years old kids https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/06/09/acebott-qe007-review-a-esp32-based-smart-home-steam-education-kit-for-8-years-old-kids/

17:16 TR Bot; ACEBOTT QE007 review - An ESP32-based Smart Home STEAM education kit for 8+ years old kids - CNX Software

17:17 TR News; Fixing a knockoff Altera USB Blaster that never worked https://www.downtowndougbrown.com/2024/06/fixing-a-knockoff-altera-usb-blaster-that-never-worked/

17:17 TR Bot; Downtown Doug Brown Fixing a knockoff Altera USB Blaster that never worked

17:20 TR News; Best Raspberry Pi HATs 2024: Expansion Boards for Every Project https://www.tomshardware.com/best-picks/best-raspberry-pi-hats

17:20 TR Bot; Best Raspberry Pi HATs 2024: Expansion Boards for Every Project | Tom's Hardware

17:21 TR News; Build Your First Go Function https://thenewstack.io/build-your-first-go-function/

17:21 TR Bot; Build Your First Go Function - The New Stack

17:29 TR News; fired for tweeting about recession https://www.livemint.com/news/india/it-engineer-fired-for-tweeting-about-recession-in-tech-industry-finds-job-opportunities-on-social-media-11707534381689.html

17:29 TR Bot; Bengaluru-based IT engineer fired for tweeting about recession in tech industry | Mint)

17:32 TR News; Outsourcing to Google is a very bad idea, not a feature https://hamradio.my/2024/06/unlocking-website-performance-harnessing-google-drive-as-a-cdn/

17:32 TR Bot; Website Performance: Harnessing Google Drive as a CDN - HamRadio.My

17:32 TR News; Faizul "Piju" 9M2PJU: Embracing Ubuntu: The Code of Conduct v2.0 https://hamradio.my/2024/06/embracing-ubuntu-the-code-of-conduct-v2-0/

17:32 TR Bot; Ubuntu: The Code of Conduct v2.0 - HamRadio.My

17:34 TR News; GNUnet News: GNUnet 0.21.2 https://gnunet.org/en/news/2024-06-0.21.2.html

17:34 TR Bot; GNUnet

17:34 TR News; GNU World Order 568 http://gnuworldorder.info//audiophile/gnuWorldOrder_568_ogg.ogg

17:35 TR News; OBS Studio 30.2 Promises NVENC AV1 and Shared Texture Support on GNU/Linux https://9to5linux.com/obs-studio-30-2-promises-nvenc-av1-and-shared-texture-support-on-linux

17:35 TR Bot; Studio 30.2 Promises NVENC AV1 and Shared Texture Support on Linux - 9to5Linux

17:36 TR News; M5PoECAM-W V1.1: A Programmable PoE Camera with ESP32+W5500 Chipset & 3MP OV3660 Sensor https://linuxgizmos.com/m5poecam-w-v1-1-a-programmable-poe-camera-with-esp32w5500-chipset-3mp-ov3660-sensor/

17:36 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/m5poecam-w-v1-1-a-programmable-poe-camera-with-esp32w5500-chipset-3mp-ov3660-sensor/ )

17:36 TR News; xmake cross-platform build utility based on Lua https://www.linuxlinks.com/xmake-cross-platform-build-utility/

17:36 TR Bot; - cross-platform build utility based on Lua - LinuxLinks

17:37 TR News; How to Clear History in Ubuntu https://www.maketecheasier.com/clear-history-in-ubuntu/

17:37 TR Bot; How to Clear History in Ubuntu - Make Tech Easier

17:37 TR News; ScyllaDB real-time big data database https://www.linuxlinks.com/scylladb-real-time-big-data-database/

17:37 TR Bot; - real-time big data database - LinuxLinks

17:38 TR News; KeyDB high performance fork of Redis https://www.linuxlinks.com/keydb-high-performance-fork-redis/

17:38 TR Bot; - high performance fork of Redis - LinuxLinks

17:38 TR News; 4 Best Free and Open Source Character Map Tools https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-character-map-tools/

17:38 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Character Map Tools - LinuxLinks

17:38 TR News; 9 Best Free and Open Source Host-Based Intrusion Detection Systems https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-host-based-intrusion-detection-systems/

17:38 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Host-Based Intrusion Detection Systems - LinuxLinks

17:39 TR News; ExTiX Ubuntu-based GNU/Linux distribution https://www.linuxlinks.com/extix-ubuntu-based-linux-distribution/

17:39 TR Bot; - Ubuntu-based Linux distribution - LinuxLinks

17:39 TR News; "Additionally, you can personalize Alacritty using its configuration file. Its configuration is based on YAML files that allow you to customize various settings such as window title, startup mode, window dimensions, and cursor styles." https://www.howtogeek.com/best-default-linux-terminal-alternatives/

17:39 TR Bot; Your Default Linux Terminal Emulator Is Dull, So Take These Alternatives for a Spin

17:40 TR News; Ventoy 1.0.99 Bootable USB Drive Creator Enhances EFI Boot https://linuxiac.com/ventoy-1-0-99-enhances-efi-boot/

17:40 TR Bot; Ventoy 1.0.99 Bootable USB Drive Creator Enhances EFI Boot

17:40 TR News; Fedora Plans to Switch Anaconda Installer to Wayland https://linuxiac.com/fedora-plans-to-switch-anaconda-installer-to-wayland/

17:40 TR Bot; Fedora Plans to Switch Anaconda Installer to Wayland

17:40 *psydroid3 (~psydroid@j9gt2haw74jrk.irc) has joined #techrights

17:41 TR News; 18 Best Free and Open Source Build Systems https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-build-systems/

17:41 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Build Systems - LinuxLinks

17:42 TR News; The Hitchhikers Guide to Linear Models https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/06/the-hitchhikers-guide-to-linear-models/

17:42 TR Bot; Hitchhikers Guide to Linear Models | R-bloggers

17:45 TR News; OBS Studio 30.2 Beta is out

17:45 TR News; (NEW): Is Linux the only platform left to escape AI? https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Is_Linux_the_only_platform_left_to_escape_AI.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Is_Linux_the_only_platform_left_to_escape_AI.gmi

17:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines Is Linux the only platform left to escape AI?

17:45 TR News; Why you shouldnt use boxplots https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/06/why-you-shouldnt-use-boxplots/

17:45 TR Bot; you shouldnt use boxplots | R-bloggers

17:52 TR News; Thorsten Alteholz: My Debian Activities in May 2024 http://blog.alteholz.eu/2024/06/2496/

17:52 TR Bot; Debian Activities in May 2024 blog.alteholz.eu

17:52 TR News; Reproducible Builds: Reproducible Builds in May 2024 https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2024-05/

17:52 TR Bot; Builds in May 2024 reproducible-builds.org

17:52 eidolon; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/malicious-visual-studio-code-extensions-with-millions-of-installs-discovered/

17:52 TR Bot; Malicious VSCode extensions with millions of installs discovered

17:53 schestowitz[TR2]; VSCode is liaicious also

17:53 schestowitz[TR2]; even from official sources

17:53 schestowitz[TR2]; VSCode is microsoft proprietary spywar

17:54 TR News; Bootstrapping PC DOS 3.30 on an I.C.B.M. 5160 PC/XT https://rubenerd.com/bootstrapping-dos-330-on-an-ibm-5160-pcxt/

17:54 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd

17:54 TR News; Huge Study Reveals How Often Cannabis Triggers Psychotic Episodes https://www.sciencealert.com/huge-study-reveals-how-often-cannabis-triggers-psychotic-episodes

17:54 TR Bot; Study Reveals How Often Cannabis Triggers Psychotic Episodes : ScienceAlert

17:55 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/why-6

17:55 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Why

17:56 eidolon; https://oshi.at/PUTC/gTLc.png

17:56 eidolon; ;D

17:56 MinceR; :)

17:57 schestowitz[TR2]; i don't get it

17:57 schestowitz[TR2]; i eard it before

17:57 schestowitz[TR2]; i think the statement is a meme

17:57 MinceR; https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html

17:58 TR Bot; Ed, man! !man ed- GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF)

17:58 TR News; A Lesson From Covid on How to Destroy Public Trust https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/08/opinion/covid-fauci-hearings-health.html

17:58 TR Bot; Opinion | A Lesson From Covid on How to Destroy Public Trust - The New York Times

17:58 schestowitz[TR2]; how dare gnu make jokes?

17:59 MinceR; well, it probably stopped

17:59 eidolon; it is a fact

6 PM, June 9

18:00 eidolon; but also a running joke

18:00 schestowitz[TR2]; that page explains it, i kept saying that line

18:00 schestowitz[TR2]; *seeing

18:01 TR News; Daniel Pocock: European Parliament election count 2024 day 1 https://danielpocock.com/european-parliament-election-count-2024-day-1/

18:01 TR Bot; European Parliament election count 2024 day 1

18:02 TR News; Is Your Driving Being Secretly Scored? https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/09/technology/driver-scores-insurance-data-apps.html

18:02 TR Bot; Is Your Driving Being Secretly Scored? - The New York Times

18:03 TR News; "Bored with the default Linux terminal? Try these exciting alternatives." https://www.howtogeek.com/best-default-linux-terminal-alternatives/

18:03 TR Bot; Your Default Linux Terminal Emulator Is Dull, So Take These Alternatives for a Spin

18:04 TR News; "The upcoming release also promises support for Multitrack Video streaming and support for Enhanced RTMP/FLV multi-track audio and video." https://9to5linux.com/obs-studio-30-2-promises-nvenc-av1-and-shared-texture-support-on-linux

18:04 TR Bot; Studio 30.2 Promises NVENC AV1 and Shared Texture Support on Linux - 9to5Linux

18:05 TR News; "There's one other just for Windows, and multiple issues in VGPU Software too." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/06/nvidia-reveal-new-security-issues-in-their-gpu-drivers-for-june-2024/

18:05 TR Bot; reveal new security issues in their GPU drivers for June 2024 | GamingOnLinux

18:06 admfubar; just ass water... https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2024/06/alaska-landslide-tsunamis-cruise-ships/678638/

18:06 TR Bot; Cruise Ships Arent Ready for Instant Tsunamis - The Atlantic

18:12 admfubar; :)) should have been "just add water"

18:12 admfubar; :P

18:14 psydroid3; :)

18:15 *psydroid3 hands admfubar a toilet bowl

18:16 admfubar; couild use that.. my insides are in high gear these days

18:17 schestowitz[TR2]; <admfubar> :)) should have been "just add water"

18:17 schestowitz[TR2]; ask ryan's landlord, mr. ceo

18:18 admfubar; i try not to ask him anything

18:19 schestowitz[TR2]; :D

18:19 schestowitz[TR2]; he went on holiday

18:19 schestowitz[TR2]; in iindia

18:19 schestowitz[TR2]; away ferom a harsh realitty

18:19 schestowitz[TR2]; while tenants ellope

18:19 schestowitz[TR2]; *elope

18:23 admfubar; absentee landlords.. those arent allowed in the major city i live near

18:24 TR News; Techrights In 2 years Techrights Too Will Turn 20 https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/In_2_years_Techrights_Too_Will_Turn_20.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/In_2_years_Techrights_Too_Will_Turn_20.gmi

18:24 TR Bot; Techrights In 2 years Techrights Too Will Turn 20

18:34 admfubar; m$ bug-a-boo https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/office-2007-infosec-researcher-recalls-panic-after-major-bug-announcement-turned-out-to-be-a-false-positive

18:34 TR Bot; Office 2007 infosec researcher recalls panic after major bug announcement turned out to be a false positive | Tom's Hardware

18:37 schestowitz[TR2]; <admfubar> absentee landlords.. those arent allowed in the major city i live near

18:37 schestowitz[TR2]; how are they defined?

18:37 schestowitz[TR2]; how distant

18:37 schestowitz[TR2]; and how long period of absence?

18:38 admfubar; they dont live in the city where the property is, or there isnt a representative that lives withing the city limits

18:42 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/art-6

18:42 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Art

18:46 TR News; Techrights Vista 11 is Rotting in The Netherlands https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Vista_11_is_Rotting_in_The_Netherlands.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Vista_11_is_Rotting_in_The_Netherlands.gmi

18:46 TR Bot; Techrights Vista 11 is Rotting in The Netherlands

18:53 TR News; (NEW): Almost Grumpy https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Almost_Grumpy.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Almost_Grumpy.gmi

18:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines Almost Grumpy

18:56 admfubar; a book??!! sounds like someone needs money!.. https://news.slashdot.org/story/24/06/09/1742202/bill-gates-taking-pre-orders-for-source-code-a-memoir-of-his-early-years

18:56 TR Bot; Bill Gates Taking Pre-Orders For 'Source Code', a Memoir of His Early Years - Slashdot

18:56 admfubar; https://tech.slashdot.org/story/24/06/08/2035253/how-google-will-distribute-100-million-to-canadas-news-companies?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed

18:56 TR Bot; How Google Will Distribute $100 Million to Canada's News Companies - Slashdot

18:57 admfubar; https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=24/06/08/1727205&from=rss

18:57 TR Bot; FBI Unveils 7,000 Decryption Keys to Aid Lockbit Victims - SoylentNews

18:57 schestowitz[TR2]; Windows.

18:57 schestowitz[TR2]; so they do not dsolve thee underlying issue

18:57 MinceR; he should have called it Dumpster Code

18:58 schestowitz[TR2]; Slashdot runing ads for Bill again

18:58 schestowitz[TR2]; nothing has immproved

18:58 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe they also want to do PR services for Jeffrey Epstein]

18:58 schestowitz[TR2]; if the pricee is right

7 PM, June 9

19:02 TR News; Women often outlive men but in poorer health https://www.dw.com/en/women-often-outlive-men-but-in-poorer-health/a-69214745

19:02 TR Bot; often outlive men but in poorer health DW 05/30/2024

19:03 TR News; Heat exhaustion or heat stroke https://www.dw.com/en/heat-exhaustion-or-heat-stroke-what-to-do-in-an-emergency/a-66043116

19:03 TR Bot; exhaustion or heat stroke: What to do in an emergency DW 05/30/2024

19:04 TR News; Europol is still not cracking down on WINDOWS https://www.dw.com/en/europol-hits-malware-network-in-major-cybercrime-operation/a-69220251

19:04 TR Bot; hits malware network in major cybercrime operation DW 05/30/2024

19:04 admfubar; https://yro.slashdot.org/story/24/06/08/2123202/jury-finds-autonomy-founder-mike-lynch-not-guilty-of-defrauding-hp

19:04 TR Bot; Jury Finds Autonomy Founder Mike Lynch Not Guilty of Defrauding HP - Slashdot

19:06 admfubar; https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/24/06/09/0328246/dutch-police-test-ai-powered-robot-dog-to-raid-drug-labs

19:06 TR Bot; Dutch Police Test AI-Powered Robot Dog to Raid Drug Labs - Slashdot

19:06 schestowitz[TR2]; > an we start with the real story of what happened at Sirius when the CEO

19:06 schestowitz[TR2]; > pushed you out and locked you out?

19:06 schestowitz[TR2]; >

19:06 schestowitz[TR2]; > eek! :) no idea. i was only a contractor, on-demand and

19:06 schestowitz[TR2]; > very sporadic.

19:06 schestowitz[TR2]; >

19:06 schestowitz[TR2]; > > http://techrights.org/wiki/Crimes_of_Sirius_Open_Source/

19:06 schestowitz[TR2]; > <http://techrights.org/wiki/Crimes_of_Sirius_Open_Source/>

19:06 schestowitz[TR2]; >

19:06 schestowitz[TR2]; > literally the first time ever i have seen this!

19:06 schestowitz[TR2]; >

19:06 schestowitz[TR2]; >

19:06 schestowitz[TR2]; > > Maybe we can revisit what happened in 2011. That's when the pension

19:06 schestowitz[TR2]; > fraud seems to have started.

19:06 TR Bot; Crimes of Sirius Open Source

19:10 admfubar; https://slashdot.org/story/24/06/09/0126246/us-justice-department-indicts-creators-of-bitcoin-anonymizing-samouri-wallet

19:10 TR Bot; US Justice Department Indicts Creators of Bitcoin-Anonymizing 'Samouri' Wallet - Slashdot

19:13 TR News; Eurozone inflation up more than expected in May https://www.dw.com/en/eurozone-inflation-up-more-than-expected-in-may/a-69232099

19:13 TR Bot; inflation up more than expected in May DW 05/31/2024

19:14 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/sympathy-2

19:14 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Sympathy

19:16 admfubar; https://www.wired.com/story/the-age-of-the-drone-police-is-here/

19:16 TR Bot; Age of the Drone Police Is Here | WIRED

19:21 eidolon; \o/

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19:26 admfubar; from the "age of Aquarius" to the "age of the drone police"

19:28 admfubar; i bet it doesn't cost a quarter... https://www.tomshardware.com/3d-printing/worlds-first-chip-based-3d-printer-is-smaller-than-a-coin-benefits-from-having-no-moving-parts

19:28 TR Bot; World's first chip-based 3D printer is smaller than a coin benefits from having no moving parts | Tom's Hardware

19:30 admfubar; :)) https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/hp-bricks-probook-laptops-with-bad-bios-%E2%80%94-many-users-face-black-screen-after-windows-includes-firmware-in-automatic-updates.3846642/

19:30 TR Bot; News - HP bricks ProBook laptops with bad BIOS many users face black screen after Windows includes firmware in automatic updates | Tom's Hardware Forum

8 PM, June 9

20:40 admfubar; https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/09/rto_quit_study/

20:40 TR Bot; Study finds 1/4 of bosses hoped RTO would make staff quit The Register

20:52 psydruid; Brick 'Em All

20:54 psydruid; Must create backdoors in the Backdoors

9 PM, June 9

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21:10 admfubar; there's a fungus amung us... :P

21:10 admfubar; https://arstechnica.com/?p=2029953

21:10 TR Bot; People are seizing, being intubated after eating microdose chocolates | Ars Technica

21:11 MinceR; (cat) https://imgur.com/gallery/catroy-fDK6ZGk

21:11 TR Bot; - Album on Imgur

21:13 admfubar; https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2024/06/new-steam-deck-competitor-lets-you-easily-swap-in-more-ram-storage/

21:13 TR Bot; New Steam Deck competitor lets you easily swap in more RAM, storage | Ars Technica

21:14 admfubar; more like a techrights detractor

21:22 eidolon; Who knows what bullshit is in those chocolates? :D

21:24 eidolon; They mentioned this product by name in a recent nytimes article about nuisance weed shops.

21:24 eidolon; unlicensed

21:24 eidolon; https://archive.is/cUoyR

21:24 TR Bot; A Neighborhood Battles Illegal Weed Shops: Weve Been Begging for Help - The New York Times

21:25 admfubar; https://arstechnica.com/?p=2029870

21:25 TR Bot; New camera design can ID threats faster, using less memory | Ars Technica

21:26 admfubar; prolly the mushrooms are contaminated with another fungus.. there are a few that will kill you outright, some will will take time, and a lot that will make you wish you were dead.

21:34 eidolon; 'we reached out to diamondshruumz, but as of publication, they remain mushmouthed'

21:34 eidolon; it could be any number of chemical analogues or wotsits

21:37 eidolon; without verifying a species of mushroom unequivocally

21:37 eidolon; ye treading on very organ-liquefying grounds

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21:59 IsambardPrince; [12:23] <admfubar> absentee landlords.. those arent allowed in the major city i live near

21:59 IsambardPrince; Be glad.

21:59 IsambardPrince; I'm hoping this anti-slumlord bill gets signed before my lease renews so I can fight back if this guy tries to fuck me.

10 PM, June 9

22:00 IsambardPrince; It should not take going to the city after a week with no toilets, for an entire building, to get that resolved.

22:00 IsambardPrince; I gave him a week. Which is probably 2-3x what it should have taken to get an actual plumber out here and just pony up the dough and fix the thing.

22:01 IsambardPrince; It was working again the day after the city threatened him.

22:01 IsambardPrince; The guy should just buckle up and fix things that are obviously going to get him pinched.

22:02 IsambardPrince; You can hide mold in the walls, you can hide electrical problems.

22:02 IsambardPrince; You're not going to hide a sewage pump breakdown.

22:06 IsambardPrince; schestowitz[TR2]: The anti-homeless architecture is something that didn't even exist when Carpenter did They Live.

22:06 IsambardPrince; It's like "What about Lego blocks? We all know how much stepping on one hurts. Why don't we turn the bus benches into big lego blocks. And the areas around the supermarket windows can be like giant butt plugs, only spikier and metal.

22:07 IsambardPrince; That's how the rich view the poor. "Like pigeons crapping on MY sidewalk."

22:11 admfubar; https://hackaday.com/2024/06/09/what-if/

22:11 TR Bot; If The Matrix Was Made In The 1950s? | Hackaday

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22:25 admfubar; https://www.rawstory.com/inside-the-global-orange-juice-crisis/

22:25 TR Bot; Inside the global orange juice crisis - Raw Story

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22:59 IsambardPrince; They did the same thing with coffee in the 1970s you know.

22:59 IsambardPrince; Lester R. Brown, the UN toady, wrote that very soon nobody would have any coffee.

22:59 IsambardPrince; I'm drinking some right now.

22:59 IsambardPrince; Like everything else, coffee prices fluctuate.

22:59 IsambardPrince; Bad crop years happen, the next year they have so much of the stuff they don't know what to do with it.

11 PM, June 9

23:00 IsambardPrince; That's how things go.

23:00 IsambardPrince; Several years with bad crop yields bedeviled the Romans.

23:00 IsambardPrince; I wonder what would have happened if the Romans had the UN and the Internet going on about a climate scam?

23:01 IsambardPrince; The Kingdom/Republic/Empire endured longer than any modern country today.

23:02 IsambardPrince; But they had some years with mismanagement, bad leadership, and crop failures, before anyone was claiming there was "global warming".

23:02 IsambardPrince; In fact, the same thing happened to the Roman wheat crops as coffee in the 1970s, basically.

23:02 IsambardPrince; It was a frost and coffee rust that did in the coffee for a while.

23:02 IsambardPrince; Bad management (burning the stockpiles that would have stabilized supply during low production years).

23:02 psydruid; https://sgmlegalspain.com/spain-cheap-to-own-a-car/

23:02 TR Bot; Spain, Cheap to Own a Car? | SGM Abogados

23:03 psydruid; insane

23:03 IsambardPrince; The Romans squandered the grain stores to pay for spectacles.

23:03 IsambardPrince; And then a frost came and wiped out the wheat crops.

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23:04 psydruid; have a job just to be able to "own" a car

23:04 IsambardPrince; You can endure a lot, but bad leadership that squanders everything you socked away during boom years and then wastes what is left, you can't sink that.

23:04 IsambardPrince; And that's what the US government is doing to us today.

23:04 psydruid; and pay 1000 a month for the privilege

23:05 IsambardPrince; The "War in Gaza" is the 7th priority of US voters under 40.

23:05 IsambardPrince; It ranks as the top issue in the election with only 3% of that group.

23:05 IsambardPrince; The first six issues are all things Biden scores badly on.

23:05 IsambardPrince; Some take on the economy.

23:05 IsambardPrince; Inflation is rough, it's a bad time to look for work, my housing costs too much, gas prices.....healthcare costs a lot of money.

23:05 IsambardPrince; He's not doing well on any of that.

23:07 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2024/05/16/hilarious-ways-people-said-i-quit-funny-job-exit-stories/

23:07 TR Bot; 40 Hilarious Ways People Said "I Quit" That Are Instant Classics

23:18 IsambardPrince; [17:04] <psydruid> and pay 1000 a month for the privilege

23:18 IsambardPrince; They Live

23:18 IsambardPrince; "The plan is to suck Earth dry "like a third world country" and then ditch it, and they have humans going along with it because as long as they don't fight and agree to work for the aliens, "their bank account gets bigger, they get a nicer car, a better house"."

23:19 IsambardPrince; "Most of the cops are human collaborators. They don't even try to make any arrests, they just kill everyone."

23:20 IsambardPrince; schestowitz[TR2]: So the Left and the Right have become the same thing.

23:21 IsambardPrince; The far-right "Nazis, Aryan Brotherhood, Ku Klux Klan" believe in the Zionist Occupation Government theory, and the Left "American Communists, Socialists, some Democrats, Lobster" also believe this.

23:21 IsambardPrince; They both want another holocaust.

23:22 IsambardPrince; I didn't get my Mastodon taken down like Lobster did, under Germany's Nazi Control Laws. I got it taken down for being Pro-Second Amendment (US Constitution) on a platform of leftist crazies and incels, mostly in Europe.

23:23 IsambardPrince; As far as I know, there's no law in Europe that requires taking down someone's social media account for supporting the US Constitution.

23:23 IsambardPrince; They just don't like Americans very much because they're idiots who don't know how to live.

23:23 IsambardPrince; They spent years putting these people like von der Slaven in charge of the EU.

23:24 IsambardPrince; And now they realize that her coalition with leftist and center-left parties was a disaster.

23:24 IsambardPrince; And the climate scam is eroding their living standard by about 10% per year to appease China.

23:24 IsambardPrince; So the way I understand it, now they want a coalition of center-right, far-right, and "Euroskeptic" parties.

23:25 IsambardPrince; Because they've realized that they've made themselves the biggest fools in the world by supporing the EU.

23:25 IsambardPrince; Which is as retarded and malicious as the United Nations, only its decisions matter (to the region).

23:26 IsambardPrince; There's not much of a democratic process at the federal level in the US.

23:26 IsambardPrince; If we had UK style referendums, we would back out of NAFTA/USMCA as soon as the votes were counted.

23:27 IsambardPrince; And I'd be one of the people voting to leave.

23:27 IsambardPrince; The only ones who don't want the Pre-NAFTA environment are the large banks and companies like Walmart.

23:28 IsambardPrince; The US shut down almost all of its factories and made millions unemployable.

23:28 IsambardPrince; And the only thing we export through NAFTA/USMCA are agriculture that's all been subsidized by the federal government, and "financial services".

23:28 IsambardPrince; It has not improved the living standard at all.

23:28 IsambardPrince; At first it did.

23:28 IsambardPrince; It took several years for things to adjust.

23:29 IsambardPrince; At the beginning, it was like snorting some crack cocaine.

23:29 IsambardPrince; Because all this cheap shit started flooding the US markets, but most people here were still employed and had savings, or at least equity in their house.

23:29 MinceR; yeah, it's all the leftists' fault that the EPP assisted one of its member parties, fidesz-mpsz, in turning hungary into a dictatorship

23:30 MinceR; and that EU citizens are such idiots that they keep voting for fascists even after seeing how that turned out

23:30 IsambardPrince; Then they lost their good jobs and took jobs that paid half as much as before, but they "tapped the equity" to make up for that, and that went on for some years. Then when the equity was tapped and they just had a second mortgage to pay and the money was gone, they started loading up their credit cards.

23:30 IsambardPrince; And when those were tapped out, the Republicans made it so most people can't file bankruptcy and walk away from the second mortgages and credit cards.

23:30 MinceR; even romania has higher GDP (PPP) per capita than hungary now, according to eurostat

23:30 MinceR; and a higher minimum wage

23:31 MinceR; in bulgaria, people consume more per capita than in hungary

23:31 MinceR; this is the great "rightist" success story that the EU citizens want more of.

23:31 IsambardPrince; [17:29] <MinceR> yeah, it's all the leftists' fault that the EPP assisted one of its member parties, fidesz-mpsz, in turning hungary into a dictatorship

23:31 IsambardPrince; [17:30] <MinceR> and that EU citizens are such idiots that they keep voting for fascists even after seeing how that turned out

23:31 IsambardPrince; You're the Mexico of Europe.

23:31 IsambardPrince; Nobody cares. Keep sending them cheap shit.

23:31 IsambardPrince; Stop bitching.

23:31 IsambardPrince; :)

23:31 IsambardPrince; Basically...

23:31 MinceR; hungary used to be the leader in the region

23:32 MinceR; and now it's a ruin

23:32 IsambardPrince; Yeah, Mexico was better before NAFTA/USMCA, or Ronald Reagan. What goes on in the US affects Mexico more than elections in Mexico do.

23:32 IsambardPrince; Because it's a third world country in our backyard.

23:32 IsambardPrince; A source of drugs, and scabs to defeat the United Auto Workers.

23:33 IsambardPrince; So US politics and trade deals have left Mexicans dodging bullets in the literal drug wars.

23:33 MinceR; hungary was primarily ruined by its own citizens

23:33 MinceR; and the rest of the EPP (outside fidesz-mpsz), despite allegedly being "democrats", helped them

23:34 IsambardPrince; MinceR: I'm not opposed to Mexicans. I am not racist against them at all. I'm just speaking honestly about how our system uses the situation down there.

23:34 IsambardPrince; I would love to see them running their own country, but it won't ever happen.

23:34 IsambardPrince; The second it did, the CIA would have something to say about it.

23:34 MinceR; fascism is still on the rise in the EU

23:35 MinceR; it's going to destroy every country around here

23:35 IsambardPrince; The best thing that could happen to the EU would be its complete and utter dismantling.

23:35 IsambardPrince; Mostly for the people who live under it and pay taxes to it and have to live under laws that their own government didn't pass.

23:35 MinceR; not really, it would just help the fascists turn the former member states into dictatorships more quickly

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23:47 psydruid; wow, Hungary has been utterly destroyed from the inside out

23:48 psydruid; having a lower GDP per capita than Romania and Bulgaria is quite an achievement

23:48 MinceR; we don't have a lower GDP (PPP) per capita than bulgaria yet

23:49 MinceR; just lower consumption per capita

23:49 MinceR; but we're getting there

23:49 psydruid; and I thought Hungary was on the level of Poland and Czechia

23:50 psydruid; at least that's what it looked like when I visited Budapest in 2017

23:50 MinceR; it used to be

23:51 MinceR; and there was an efford to bring poland down to this level, but it failed

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