IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, November 04, 2022
beginning of new day, November 4
00:02 TR News; (NEW): Digital Restrictions (DRM) From Disney and... Purism http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Digital_Restrictions_DRM_From_Disney_and_Purism.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Digital_Restrictions_DRM_From_Disney_and_Purism.gmi
00:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines Digital Restrictions (DRM) From Disney and... Purism
00:03 TR News; (NEW): After Musk Takes Over Twitter, Users Rush to Mastodon http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/After_Musk_Takes_Over_Twitter_Users_Rush_to_Mastodon.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/After_Musk_Takes_Over_Twitter_Users_Rush_to_Mastodon.gmi
00:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines After Musk Takes Over Twitter, Users Rush to Mastodon
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00:16 TR News; Links 03/11/2022: FEX 2211 Tagged and Rust 1.65.0 Released (Making Political Statements) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/03/fex-2211/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/03/fex-2211/
00:16 TR Bot; Links 03/11/2022: FEX 2211 Tagged and Rust 1.65.0 Released (Making Political Statements) | Techrights
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00:18 TR News; iTWire - Helping Optus spin breach fallout: the AFR shows the way https://itwire.com/open-sauce/helping-optus-avoid-responsibility-the-afr-shows-the-way.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/open-sauce/helping-optus-avoid-responsibility-the-afr-shows-the-way.html
00:18 TR Bot; - Helping Optus spin breach fallout: the AFR shows the way
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:21 TR News; This Software Archives Everything You Do On Your Computer... - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ndtt5-8zeZc | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ndtt5-8zeZc
00:21 TR Bot; This Software Archives Everything You Do On Your Computer... - Invidious
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00:38 TR News; Programming Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Programming_Leftovers.shtml
00:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
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00:46 DaemonFC; https://layoffstracker.com/opendoor-lays-off-18-workforce-550-employees/
00:46 TR Bot; Lays off 18% Workforce 550 Employees - LayoffsTracker
00:46 DaemonFC; LOL
00:49 schestowitz; next up: router updates
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00:55 *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~roy@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc at Fri Jun 18 16:51:47 2021
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00:56 AdmFubar1; they really me open door
00:56 AdmFubar1; mean
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1 AM, November 4
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01:01 DaemonFC; Yeah, buy houses, send people in to do quit patch up jobs, and sell them at markup to people who don't realize it's all substandard.
01:05 DaemonFC; https://www.neowin.net/news/statcounter-only-15-of-windows-users-upgraded-to-windows-11/
01:05 TR Bot; Statcounter: only 15% of Windows users upgraded to Windows 11 - Neowin
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01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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01:25 TR News; Live and let live with Kluctl and Server Side Apply | Kubernetes https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/11/04/live-and-let-live-with-kluctl-and-ssa/ Source: Kubernetes Blog | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//kubernetes.io/blog/2022/11/04/live-and-let-live-with-kluctl-and-ssa/
01:25 TR Bot; Live and let live with Kluctl and Server Side Apply | Kubernetes
01:26 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
01:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
01:27 TR News; RProtoBuf 0.4.20 on CRAN: Maintenance http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/11/03/ Source: Dirk Eddelbuettel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/11/03/
01:27 TR Bot; Thinking inside the box
01:51 TR News; Mirroring sources used in nixpkgs (software preservation) gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/nixpkgs-fetch-all-sources.gmi
01:52 TR News; Shoe-wax day gemini://box.matto.nl/shoewaxday.gmi
01:52 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D402.jpg
01:52 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D744.jpg
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01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 145.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 110.68
2 AM, November 4
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02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-031122.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-031122.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-031122.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-031122.txt
02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, November 03, 2022
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-031122.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-031122.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-031122.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-031122.txt
02:41 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, November 03, 2022
02:42 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-031122.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-031122.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-031122.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-031122.txt
02:42 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, November 03, 2022
02:43 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-031122.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-031122.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-031122.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-031122.txt
02:43 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, November 03, 2022
02:44 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-11-03.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-11-03.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 63.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 118.21
3 AM, November 4
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03:03 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 52277 total Total number of pages in capsule: 43301 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 3 months 0 days ago
03:04 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 788 MB TotalOut: 144 MB
03:05 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 99.83 average k/sec., average swarm size 124.83
4 AM, November 4
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04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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04:33 DaemonFC; https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2022/11/01/the-supreme-courts-next-big-affirmative-action-case
04:33 TR Bot; The future of affirmative action | On Point
04:34 DaemonFC; Affirmative Action is just racism.
04:34 DaemonFC; It's a nice way of putting "We don't let white and asian people apply here. Go away.".
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04:36 DaemonFC; https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2022/11/01/the-supreme-courts-next-big-affirmative-action-case
04:36 DaemonFC; The end of 2024... LOL
04:36 DaemonFC; They won't last until the end of 2023, most likely.
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04:59 DaemonFC; Meta Platforms, Inc. (META)
04:59 DaemonFC; 88.91-1.63 (-1.80%)
04:59 DaemonFC; At close: 04:00PM EDT
04:59 DaemonFC; :)
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 36.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 104.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 116.00
04:59 DaemonFC; It fell another $6 a share since I looked the last time.
5 AM, November 4
05:00 DaemonFC; schestowitz__[TR], Figure the Metaverse will save them? :)
05:01 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/video/meta-wipes-pandemic-boom-down-155957815.html
05:01 TR Bot; Meta wipes out pandemic boom, down nearly 50% over 5 years
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05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 45.36 k/sec., IPFS upstream 142.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 113.38
6 AM, November 4
06:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
06:35 starstreak; i was watching ancient aliens - the reptilian agenda, and it had a lot on reptilians but like nothing on any agenda
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 14.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 94.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 127.60
7 AM, November 4
07:00 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, November 03, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
07:00 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
07:00 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
07:00 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
07:13 TR News; CNX failing to focus on Linux, "Both mini PC ships with Windows 11 Pro," it says, so no relevant to the audience. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/11/04/mele-pcg02-pro-mini-pc-stick-supports-m-2-nvme-or-sata-ssd/
07:13 TR Bot; Mele PCG02 Pro mini PC stick supports M.2 NVMe or SATA SSD - CNX Software
07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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07:24 *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~roy@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc at Fri Jun 18 16:51:47 2021
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07:50 TR News; "A frequent criticism of Gemini, and a topic that arises on Gemini itself from time to time, is that the protocol gatekeeps." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202211/20221103-barriers-to-gemini.gmi
07:51 TR News; "For those of us who are women with strong sex drives, comments that make universal declarations about the extent to which sexual interaction is a real need is yet another instance of women being invalidated and told what our needs should and shouldn't be - and also, effectively, another form of slut-shaming." gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/flexibeast/gemlog/2022-11-04.gmi
07:51 TR News; Season's First Snow gemini://arcanesciences.com/gemlog/22-11-03/
07:52 TR News; The Efficacy Of Live Music gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1173
07:52 TR News; Azhdahak II gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1172
07:52 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D744.jpg
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07:54 schestowitz[TR]; I think the router work is all settled now... and seems stable
07:54 schestowitz[TR]; back to work...
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.05 k/sec., IPFS upstream 72.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 126.26
8 AM, November 4
08:01 TR News; diffoscope 226 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-226-released/
08:01 TR Bot; diffoscope 226 released
08:02 TR News; What is "not evenly distributed" these days? https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/11/what-is-not-evenly-distributed-these-days/
08:02 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/11/what-is-not-evenly-distributed-these-days/ )
08:04 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/today_s_howtos.gmi
08:04 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
08:05 TR News; Red Hat-based GNU/Linux from Japan has new release: Miracle 9.0 https://www.miraclelinux.com/ RHEL clone
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08:06 TR News; "In the Lua programming language, an array is called a table. A table is used in Lua to store data. If you're storing a lot of data in a structured way, it's useful to know your options for retrieving that data when you need it." https://opensource.com/article/22/11/iterate-over-tables-lua
08:06 TR Bot; to iterate over tables in Lua | Opensource.com
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08:07 TR Bot; 10 Best Open Source Bots for Your Discord Server
08:08 TR News; ICBM did evil things with algorithms, under the guise of HEY HI. It got caught. Now it's still spinning it with "Ethics"... a 3-year PR campaign already https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/11/ai-ethics-5-key-pillars
08:08 TR Bot; AI ethics: 5 key pillars | The Enterprisers Project
08:10 *Now talking on #techrights
08:12 TR News; T-Head XuanTie C908 RISC-V core targets AIoT applications - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/11/04/t-head-xuantie-c908-risc-v-core-targets-aiot-applications/ Source: CNX Software | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.cnx-software.com/2022/11/04/t-head-xuantie-c908-risc-v-core-targets-aiot-applications/
08:12 TR Bot; T-Head XuanTie C908 RISC-V core targets AIoT applications - CNX Software
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08:13 TR News; Accelerate IT / OT convergence in Industry 4.0 [Part III] https://ubuntu.com//blog/industry-4-part-ii-2
08:13 TR Bot; IT / OT convergence in Industry 4.0 [Part III] | Ubuntu
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08:17 schestowitz[TR]; reptilian_thrills: systemd ousted fully
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; TPM now
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; by Microsoft
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; systemd as trojan horse againt Linux
08:18 schestowitz[TR]; by Microsoft
08:18 TR News; 'Linux' Foundation = spam machine, diploma mill https://www.nextpit.com/forum/823360/linux-foundation-ckad-dumps-know-the-value-of-real-ckad-exam-questions
08:18 TR Bot; Foundation CKAD Dumps - Know The Value Of Real CKAD Exam Questions | NextPit Forum
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08:21 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, November 03, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/04/irc-log-031122/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/04/irc-log-031122/
08:21 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, November 03, 2022 | Techrights
08:22 TR News; Lots of EPO coverage in Techrights today
08:26 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> systemd as trojan horse againt Linux <- for 11 years now, roy
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; seems so, yes
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; but it's like mono
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; at least it is less obvious
08:27 reptilian_thrills; from the very beginning, the systemd devs were
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; then de icaza praises microsoft ooxml
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; then joins codeplex
08:27 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> but it's like mono <- well, it was written originally by a former novell employee...
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; then goes working directly for microsoft
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; wait, systemd?
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; or mono\'
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; former novell
08:28 reptilian_thrills; from the moment it took over debian, the developers laughed about how users would have no choice
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; I must be missing something
08:28 reptilian_thrills; then they called them paranoid
08:28 reptilian_thrills; ill look it up
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; thanks
08:28 reptilian_thrills; since i know exactly where to look
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; I'll cover it later today
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; systemd lockdown
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; but lots of epo stuff too
08:29 reptilian_thrills; http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html
08:29 TR Bot; Rethinking PID 1
08:29 reptilian_thrills; Well, the current code-base is mostly my work, Lennart Poettering (Red Hat). However the design in all its details is result of close cooperation between Kay Sievers (Novell) and me. Other people involved are Harald Hoyer (Red Hat), Dhaval Giani (Formerly IBM), and a few others from various companies such as Intel, SUSE and Nokia.
08:29 reptilian_thrills; novell, red hat, ibm, intel, suse, nokia
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; ok, Sievers
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; afaik, he has not worked there for long
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; brb
08:30 reptilian_thrills; i mean, i have no idea how significant the novell connection is
08:31 reptilian_thrills; but i spotted the word "novell" and i was like "hahahahaha"
08:31 reptilian_thrills; then you "mono" and im like "yeah..."
08:31 reptilian_thrills; i first spotted that quote (the novell part) in july of 2021
08:32 reptilian_thrills; sievers and hoyer didnt sign
08:33 reptilian_thrills; dhaval giani did though
08:34 reptilian_thrills; some systemd devs did make fun of some devuan people signing the stallman defence letter though?
08:35 reptilian_thrills; systemd lockdown <- my guess, not to be optimistic but because i just dont give a shit about linucks
08:36 reptilian_thrills; my guess is that this is just the linux kernel lockdown redux moved from kernel to systemd (or supported in systemd via the kernel)
08:36 reptilian_thrills; of course you dont have to prove to me that systemd is about controlling users
08:36 reptilian_thrills; its about controlling every distribution that uses it
08:36 reptilian_thrills; its about sweatshop labour redoing gnu/linux around something ibm controls
08:37 reptilian_thrills; its free-as-in-nonfree russian roulette
08:37 reptilian_thrills; if russian roulette is a game where you die if you lose
08:38 reptilian_thrills; i wonder what a russian casino would look like
08:38 psydruid; https://www.tomshardware.com/news/why-amds-ryzen-7000-and-motherboards-cost-so-damn-much
08:38 TR Bot; Why AMDs Ryzen 7000 and Motherboards Cost So Damn Much | Tom's Hardware
08:39 psydruid; waiting for LarAMDel to spin this however he feels like
08:39 reptilian_thrills; in communist russia, when you say "hit me" and blackjack table, they actually hit you with blackjack
08:39 psydruid; soy un mono loco
08:40 reptilian_thrills; waiting for LarAMDel to spin this however he feels like <- itll be fun to know if this does anything besides interface with similar shit they put in the kernel a year or two ago
08:40 reptilian_thrills; i mean, im not saying the kernel should have that
08:40 reptilian_thrills; i consider the kernel non-free
08:40 reptilian_thrills; i consider systemd non-free too... i mean, anti-free
08:41 reptilian_thrills; though im curious how much of a change this is from an existing ibm/linux system
08:42 reptilian_thrills; [C[6~
08:42 psydruid; this is the end stage in which they squeeze every captive customer for as much money as possible, not unlike those who are tied to Linux or (shudder) Windows
08:42 reptilian_thrills; in which they squeeze every captive customer for as much money as possible, not unlike those who are tied to Linux or (shudder) Windows <- plausible enough
08:46 mjg59_; reptilian_thrills: All this doesn't move any additional security controls into systemd
08:47 TR News; "Bootlin is really happy to welcome another engineer in its team: Jrmie Dautheribes, who joined us on November 2, 2022." https://bootlin.com/blog/welcome-to-jeremie-dautheribes/
08:47 TR Bot; to Jrmie Dautheribes - Bootlin's blog
08:49 mjg59_; reptilian_thrills: It means the TPM has a more accurate record of what you booted, which you could tie into a security policy, but the TPM can't prevent you from booting what you want to
08:50 mjg59_; reptilian_thrills: But if third parties wanted to use TPM-based stuff to prove that someone were, say, running Windows, they could do that right now - they don't need Linux to do anything to be able to do that
08:51 reptilian_thrills; i believe you, but with reservations of course
08:51 reptilian_thrills; its just that in my experience there are two camps with changes like this
08:51 TR News; FOSS Weekly #22.41: Zorin OS 16.2, CLI Tools, Discord Bots and More https://news.itsfoss.com/foss-weekly-22-41/
08:51 mjg59_; Oh yeah normal concerns about my positions here are legit
08:51 TR Bot; FOSS Weekly #22.41: Zorin OS 16.2, CLI Tools, Discord Bots and More
08:51 reptilian_thrills; one that exaggerates the change and the other downplays it :)
08:52 reptilian_thrills; oh even if you said nothing about this-- i would feel about the same
08:52 reptilian_thrills; what i like though, is that now i have a glimpse of the camp that thinks this isnt a big deal
08:52 reptilian_thrills; heres where thats useful
08:52 mjg59_; So right now most Linux distros already measure the boot process into the TPM
08:52 reptilian_thrills; i dont like to overreact to these things
08:52 mjg59_; But not in a super coherent way
08:52 reptilian_thrills; right now most Linux distros already measure the boot process into the TPM <- yeah
08:53 mjg59_; And a big part of that is that the initramfs is built locally, not remotely, so it's not reproducible
08:53 mjg59_; But you can still tell which distro was booted if you want to go to enough effort
08:53 mjg59_; And, uh, nobody does
08:54 mjg59_; Literally nobody uses TPMs to verify what OS a PC booted (except Google, and then only for computers they own)
08:54 reptilian_thrills; so how about this
08:54 mjg59_; And we're at almost 20 years of this stuff having been shipped
08:54 reptilian_thrills; suppose that i dont want to use this feature with my distro
08:55 reptilian_thrills; and for some insane reasom im choosing systemd
08:55 reptilian_thrills; how much trouble will it be to not use this in my distro
08:55 mjg59_; Great question
08:55 mjg59_; Typically you can just disable the TPM in your system firmware
08:55 reptilian_thrills; oh but wait
08:56 reptilian_thrills; if i use systemd and tpm is enabled...
08:56 mjg59_; But we could write a feature that let you set an EFI variable that disabled the measurements
08:56 reptilian_thrills; now i have to EITHER comply with this in my distro OR disable tpm in firmware?
08:56 reptilian_thrills; because that sounds worse than i would expect
08:56 mjg59_; The TPM would record that you'd disabled it, but wouldn't record anything else
08:57 mjg59_; Or you could just turn this feature off when building your bootloader
08:57 reptilian_thrills; Or you could just turn this feature off when building your bootloader <- ok
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08:57 reptilian_thrills; so... the big painpoint is really the bootloader then
08:57 reptilian_thrills; most people let their distro install the bootloader
08:57 mjg59_; So here's why it's a bit awkward to just disable it entirely
08:58 mjg59_; The idea is that the TPM takes a bunch of measurements and only hands over a secret if those measurements are correct
08:58 reptilian_thrills; people who dualboot some other distro and then install a non-compliant one will need to replace the bootloader i guess... then copy over their previous config (if they want that)
08:58 mjg59_; But if you can boot something that makes no measurements, someone could just boot whatever they wanted and lie to the TPM
08:59 mjg59_; So if you want the security, you need to distinguish between "No measurements have occurred" and "I am going to make no measurements"
08:59 mjg59_; So the bootloader that makes no measurements still needs to declare itself as such to let you distinguish
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 72.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 124.55
9 AM, November 4
09:00 reptilian_thrills; So here's why it's a bit awkward to just disable it entirely <- this is why the word "lock-in" gets used. it may not be lock-in per se but its more like kettling the users, like british cops do to protestors
09:00 mjg59_; Oh right if you use one bootloader to boot multiple distros that use the TPM to encrypt your disk this does genuinely become complicated
09:00 reptilian_thrills; this does genuinely become complicated <- and the more you complicate things for people who want to control their setup... or not use this...
09:00 reptilian_thrills; the more it acts SORT OF like lock-in (while you can still make the argument it isnt)
09:00 reptilian_thrills; its not about controlling the user per se
09:01 mjg59_; In that case if you want that control I'd say just use a passphrase for disk encryption
09:01 reptilian_thrills; its just about making it a royal pain in the arse for people who want to keep doing what they did previously
09:01 mjg59_; None of this stops you doing that
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09:01 mjg59_; It just makes it easier to use disk encryption without passphrases
09:01 reptilian_thrills; i woudlnt expect it to stop people
09:01 reptilian_thrills; id expect it (based on countless things like this) to make it more tedious
09:01 reptilian_thrills; people get nudged in the direction the companies want them to go
09:02 mjg59_; All of this is just infrastructure that lets you do extra stuff
09:02 reptilian_thrills; some go to the extra (new) trouble and do "what they want"
09:02 mjg59_; And you don't need to actually do that
09:02 reptilian_thrills; like i said, one side exaggerates and the other tends to downplay
09:03 reptilian_thrills; over time it erodes trust when people realise x things are more trouble now
09:03 reptilian_thrills; but no one can tell you the value of x bceause they would have to follow development... like a developer
09:03 reptilian_thrills; even i cant tell you the value of x, and i try to get it right
09:03 reptilian_thrills; but i do know that x is more than 0
09:03 reptilian_thrills; whether this adds 1? i cant tell you
09:04 reptilian_thrills; roy will say this or that, youll give better details
09:04 reptilian_thrills; then when all is said and done i will still have to guess :)
09:04 mjg59_; I'm paying attention to this work and I will try to ensure that it can't enforce anything unless the user wants that
09:04 reptilian_thrills; im not blaming you for this per se, its the nature of the beast
09:04 reptilian_thrills; or has been since 2014 imo
09:04 reptilian_thrills; I will try to ensure that it can't enforce anything unless the user wants that <- are you on the systemd team now :D
09:04 reptilian_thrills; i know youre involved with tpm sometimes
09:05 mjg59_; Hey I've arm wrestled Lennart
09:05 mjg59_; I lost because I am actually weak and pathetic
09:05 reptilian_thrills; i think he should be neck wrestled
09:05 mjg59_; But he does actually listen to me
09:06 mjg59_; And if I make a big thing about him doing something evil it wouldn't end well for him
09:06 reptilian_thrills; he already joined microsoft so...
09:06 mjg59_; Yeah not a choice I'd make
09:06 reptilian_thrills; if you havent done six evil things before breakfast
09:06 mjg59_; I tend to skip breakfast, which does leave me more time to do evil before I eat
09:07 reptilian_thrills; there you go, something you have in common with stallman
09:07 reptilian_thrills; he doesnt do breakfast
09:07 reptilian_thrills; or at least his website says as much
09:07 mjg59_; But seriously I will do my best to ensure nothing in this work does bad things
09:07 mjg59_; And if it seems like it could I will threaten to set fire to shit
09:08 mjg59_; Eh ok here's an example
09:08 mjg59_; I like having control over devices in my home
09:08 reptilian_thrills; yes
09:08 mjg59_; I have a bunch of shit that runs Linux and I frequently replace the firmware that's on it
09:08 reptilian_thrills; "never trust a programmer with a screwdriver" <- i dont actually agree with this maxim, i still find it amusing
09:08 reptilian_thrills; I frequently replace the firmware that's on it <- good idea
09:08 reptilian_thrills; we need a free hardware movement
09:09 mjg59_; If I think stuff that we're working on would make it easy for these people to prevent me from doing that, I'd stop rather than help them
09:09 TR News; Add listening ports to firewalld with Ansible | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/listening-ports-firewalld-ansible Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/sysadmin/listening-ports-firewalld-ansible
09:09 TR Bot; Add listening ports to firewalld with Ansible | Enable Sysadmin
09:09 mjg59_; Because fundamentally I'm selfish and I'll take making sure I have control of my shit over securing other people's shit
09:09 reptilian_thrills; thinking of you as lennarts jiminy cricket is like comedy inception
09:10 reptilian_thrills; I'll take making sure I have control of my shit over securing other people's shit <- this is basically the free software marching song, so
09:11 reptilian_thrills; step 1: control own stuff | step 2: secure own stuff | step 3: lose sponsors
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09:13 reptilian_thrills; thinking of you as lennarts jiminy cricket <- granted it fits what i think of lennart poettering
09:13 reptilian_thrills; comedy based on lesser evilism writes itself :)
09:13 reptilian_thrills; theres a guy in office in the united states who claimed in 2001 that he wrote the patriot act
09:14 reptilian_thrills; nd by in office i mean the oval one
09:15 reptilian_thrills; freemasons: dont daft, you cant make it oval
09:15 reptilian_thrills; 33rd degree guy: hold my beer
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:29 reptilian_thrills; @mjg59 Old bluescreen stuff - my recollection is that there tended to be more bleed of the blue to the right of whatever was being composited. Was this my imagination, or was there a reason for this?
09:29 reptilian_thrills; i cant imagine, unless theres subpixel rendering and your pixels are arranged differently (or simply closer together) now
09:30 reptilian_thrills; or even just because your pixels are denser now
09:30 reptilian_thrills; even without subpixel rendering
09:30 reptilian_thrills; "this looked different on an older screen"
09:31 reptilian_thrills; also when i got new glasses after several years, most things werent that different but it was like having slightly nicer monitors
10 AM, November 4
10:18 reptilian_thrills; Tell people you're doing something for them out of the goodness of your heart and they'll be suspicious. Tell them you're doing it out of self interest and you'll gain their trust. http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3900/fc03823.png
10:18 reptilian_thrills; <mjg59_> Because fundamentally I'm selfish and I'll take making sure I have control of my shit over securing other people's shit :D
10:19 reptilian_thrills; when i saw the comic for today i couldnt help thinking about earlier
10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
10:26 reptilian_thrills; Mike Linksvayer, head of developer policy at GitHub
10:26 reptilian_thrills; ^ signed
10:26 reptilian_thrills; former vp creative commons
10:26 reptilian_thrills; "voices of open shills"
10:27 reptilian_thrills; By Alek Tarkowski The launch of open models like BLOOM and Stable Diffusion is <-
10:27 reptilian_thrills; stable diffusion isnt even open source
10:27 reptilian_thrills; "open models" <- not even open
10:28 reptilian_thrills; https://opensource.org/osd
10:28 TR Bot; The Open Source Definition | Open Source Initiative
10:29 reptilian_thrills; 6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor
10:29 reptilian_thrills; The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research.
10:32 reptilian_thrills; XD https://opensource.org/conflict_of_interest_policy
10:32 TR Bot; Conflict of Interest Policy | Open Source Initiative
10:32 reptilian_thrills; /me falls over laughing
10:33 reptilian_thrills; osi having a conflict of interest policy is like the third reich having a code of conduct
10:35 reptilian_thrills; stable diffusion isnt even open source <- of course the source is available
10:36 reptilian_thrills; any confusion is due to the fact that the phrase "open source" is ambiguous. "open" has several meanings
10:36 reptilian_thrills; the open source definition clarifies some of this, of course you could say the same about the free software definition
10:36 reptilian_thrills; why they chose as ambiguous a term is "open" i cant even guess
10:38 reptilian_thrills; do they mean open like a door? open like a switch? open like a policy? open like a relationship?
10:38 reptilian_thrills; if they had used a better term like free, that has relatively few meanings
10:42 reptilian_thrills; open like a relationship? <- this is especially confusing when you find out that mono is open source
10:44 schestowitz[TR]; OSI is Microsoft front and more
10:44 schestowitz[TR]; it does multiple things
10:44 schestowitz[TR]; also for Tielift
10:44 schestowitz[TR]; it's an openwashing club
10:44 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. boosters or proprietary
10:44 schestowitz[TR]; "that's where the money is!"
10:44 reptilian_thrills; seems like fsf and osi are both attacking their own foundations
10:45 reptilian_thrills; osi must flip a coin each morning and say "heads we do fuck-all, tails we write bullshit that waters down the osd"
10:45 reptilian_thrills; theyve been flipping that coin for a decade
10:46 reptilian_thrills; seems like fsf and osi are both attacking their own foundations <- too bad they dont have a conflict of interest policy
10:46 reptilian_thrills; or maybe they watered that down too
10:46 TR News; CISA Warns of Critical Vulnerabilities in 3 Industrial Control System Software https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/cisa-warns-of-critical-vulnerabilities.html Source: Hacker News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//thehackernews.com/2022/11/cisa-warns-of-critical-vulnerabilities.html
10:46 TR Bot; CISA Warns of Critical Vulnerabilities in 3 Industrial Control System Software
10:46 reptilian_thrills; yeah i think phipps watered it down
10:46 reptilian_thrills; before signing
10:46 TR News; Phoronix being a MICROSOFT BOOSTER again. USELESS!!
10:47 reptilian_thrills; after leaving its basically microsoft
10:47 reptilian_thrills; it birthed microsoft
10:47 reptilian_thrills; it bolstered microsoft
10:48 reptilian_thrills; illegitimate bastard monopoly
10:48 TR News; Two years of internet shutdowns: people in Tigray, Ethiopia, deserve better - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/two-years-internet-shutdowns-tigray/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/two-years-internet-shutdowns-tigray/
10:48 TR Bot; Two years of internet shutdowns: people in Tigray, Ethiopia, deserve better - Access Now
10:52 schestowitz[TR]; reptilian_thrills: was it you who told me phipps had come from icbm?
10:52 schestowitz[TR]; i think it's truie
10:52 reptilian_thrills; ich bin mrder
10:52 schestowitz[TR]; as I checked to be sure
10:52 schestowitz[TR]; ich bin ableist
10:52 reptilian_thrills; i think it's truie <- it is, i pointed you to an article or interview
10:52 schestowitz[TR]; nazi eugenics
10:52 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2019/07/16/haar-dark-historical-shadow/
10:52 TR Bot; EPO Looney Tunes Part 2: The Difficult Legacy and Its Dark Historical Shadow | Techrights
10:52 reptilian_thrills; ich bin ableist <- who is iba
10:52 schestowitz[TR]; killing the disabled
10:53 schestowitz[TR]; the "pilot program" before the Holocaust
10:53 reptilian_thrills; t4 ?
10:53 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
10:53 schestowitz[TR]; akction t4
10:53 schestowitz[TR]; aktion
10:53 schestowitz[TR]; systemd-aktionnd
10:53 reptilian_thrills; i didnt know that was a precursor, i always lumped them together
10:53 schestowitz[TR]; killall linux
10:54 reptilian_thrills; still it makes sense-- first you go after the disabled, and no one says anything because theyre not disabled
10:54 schestowitz[TR]; reptilian_thrills: yes, I did not know either before publishing this
10:54 schestowitz[TR]; Historians estimate the overall death toll of Aktion T4 to have been around 300,000 and many consider that it was used by the Nazis as a dry run for the subsequent implementation of the Holocaust.
10:54 schestowitz[TR]; 1940
10:54 reptilian_thrills; i always lumped them together <- i blame the holocaust museum and sloppy reasoning
10:54 schestowitz[TR]; way before "final solution"
10:54 reptilian_thrills; i first learned about t4 while at the museum
10:54 schestowitz[TR]; t4 docs are 1939
10:54 reptilian_thrills; therefore, it was part of the holocaust
10:55 schestowitz[TR]; the year ww2 started
10:55 reptilian_thrills; if i had seen a no smoking sign i would have assumed that the nazis banned tobacco too
10:55 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: https://www.phoronix.com/news/CBL-Mariner-2.0.20221029
10:55 TR Bot; Issues Big CBL-Mariner 2.0 Linux Distribution Update - Phoronix
10:55 schestowitz[TR]; your daily links fix
10:55 schestowitz[TR]; all 1 users [sic] of it are thrillled
10:55 schestowitz[TR]; that phoronnix would cover this
10:55 reptilian_thrills; psydruid just loooooooooves phoronix links
10:56 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, we like to joke
10:56 schestowitz[TR]; phoronix is in the pockets of windows companies
10:56 schestowitz[TR]; x86 hegemony
10:56 reptilian_thrills; r/pcmainrace
10:57 scientes; pockets are in the pockets of Mozilla pocket
10:57 schestowitz[TR]; nazi apologists: there was war, we were starving...
10:57 schestowitz[TR]; nazi reality: t4 started in 1938
10:57 schestowitz[TR]; nazi germany plotted to kill the "weak"
10:57 schestowitz[TR]; the attacks on gay and trans also preceded that
10:57 schestowitz[TR]; also the "aryan" trans
10:57 schestowitz[TR]; and "aryan" gay
10:57 schestowitz[TR]; nazis... they don't tend to like even their "own"
10:58 scientes; gays and freaks
10:58 scientes; I don't think "trans" was a thing then (or now...)
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; by the way, rust had a new release
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; with political statement
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; on iran
10:58 scientes; got rustier?
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; so we know politics are allowed in rust
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; BUT..
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; .like every CoC
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; it's reserved to management
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; politics is permitted as long as the Bakers and "Furries" (what mjg says runs Rust) agree
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; all other politics is CoC violation
10:59 reptilian_thrills; i met a holocaust survivor during a showing of a documentary about when they locked up the jewish husbands of non-jewish german women in an office building
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; and dismissable offense
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.15 k/sec., IPFS upstream 66.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 135.06
10:59 scientes; schestowitz[TR], oh the hypocricy, this is just the same game they always played with Saudi Arabia, and we know how that turned out
10:59 reptilian_thrills; whats rusts official position on iran
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; they usually aimed at "haeds of families" first
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; arrested some of them
11 AM, November 4
11:00 schestowitz[TR]; for the crime of not being nazis
11:00 schestowitz[TR]; reptilian_thrills: wait, getting link
11:00 scientes; schestowitz[TR], it is because they fear that Iran doesn't want to be part of US empire anymore, so they have to manufacture chaos
11:00 reptilian_thrills; ive seen the link
11:00 scientes; just like the communist always did in China
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11:00 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights-news> Rust: we support women's rights in Iran and crimes of Microsoft. Don't talk about the crimes; we'd ban you!
11:00 scientes; before things changed
11:00 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights-news> Rust politicising itself by being up Iran. WTH?????? https://blog.rust-lang.org/2022/11/03/Rust-1.65.0.html
11:00 TR Bot; Announcing Rust 1.65.0 | Rust Blog
11:00 schestowitz[TR]; see 1st and 2nd para
11:01 schestowitz[TR]; NO idea what women's rights have to do with rust
11:01 schestowitz[TR]; maybe there is a persian running the project?
11:01 schestowitz[TR]; either way,
11:01 schestowitz[TR]; imagine linus releasing a kernel while making some statement on palestine
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11:01 schestowitz[TR]; in debian you get in trouble for that
11:01 reptilian_thrills; 2 Gallon Special- Rust Release | The Industrial Safe Rust Remover
11:01 reptilian_thrills; ill take all youve got...
11:02 reptilian_thrills; /me dumps it on linucks and tor
11:02 schestowitz[TR]; rust: we remove you for criticising microsoft crimes... before you can say "RUS!!"
11:03 schestowitz[TR]; btw, lkml is cnesored
11:03 schestowitz[TR]; someone censors the kernel mailing lists
11:03 reptilian_thrills; in debian you get in trouble for that <- womens rights are okay in debian, its allowing palestinians to live and raise families that might offend someone
11:03 schestowitz[TR]; but i don't know who or how
11:03 schestowitz[TR]; they are not exactly transparent about it
11:03 reptilian_thrills; womens rights but not for palestinian women
11:03 reptilian_thrills; sort of like the nazis...
11:03 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, rust allows politics
11:03 schestowitz[TR]; we can prove it
11:03 reptilian_thrills; thats what happens when you let your distro get run by nazibm
11:03 schestowitz[TR]; but only manmagement
11:04 reptilian_thrills; anyway, rust allows politics <- clearly
11:04 schestowitz[TR]; so when they once again ban people for having an "opinion" (.e.g. on Microsoft) we can bring that up
11:04 reptilian_thrills; thatll be fun too
11:04 schestowitz[TR]; rust lost many peoile
11:04 schestowitz[TR]; they used to be mozilla staff
11:04 schestowitz[TR]; paid by gulag money
11:04 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. surveillance
11:04 scientes; Rust also produces garbage LLVM-IR
11:04 schestowitz[TR]; now it'srun by idiot
11:04 schestowitz[TR]; and many people left
11:04 schestowitz[TR]; many
11:04 scientes; and expects LLVM to clean it up
11:04 schestowitz[TR]; sometimes as groups
11:04 schestowitz[TR]; and they covered it up
11:05 reptilian_thrills; systemd is also run by an idiot
11:05 schestowitz[TR]; that we know
11:05 schestowitz[TR]; worse: one salaries by crime moneyh
11:05 schestowitz[TR]; *salaried
11:05 scientes; schestowitz[TR], much of Google's money is fake. They use "advertising revenue" to often just siphon people money
11:05 schestowitz[TR]; he just dont' care
11:05 scientes; hand chosen
11:05 schestowitz[TR]; he trolls torvalds to his own face
11:05 reptilian_thrills; yes, first nazibm now their sith apprentice
11:05 schestowitz[TR]; and then wears a t-shit to 'own' his criticsa
11:05 schestowitz[TR]; not on technnial ground
11:05 scientes; Google is just part of the $$$$$ printing press
11:06 reptilian_thrills; he trolls torvalds to his own face <- youre not even a kernel!
11:06 schestowitz[TR]; political PR tactics
11:06 schestowitz[TR]; scientes: yes, one of several
11:06 scientes; as is DuckDUckGo, which markets itsself as "not Google" which is a great platform
11:06 schestowitz[TR]; DDG is microosft proxy
11:06 reptilian_thrills; when mjg said hes arm wrestled lennart i assume he meant it as a metaphor
11:06 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo
11:06 TR Bot; DuckDuckGo - Techrights
11:06 schestowitz[TR]; DDG fooled a lot of peopler
11:06 reptilian_thrills; then he talked about spindley arms
11:07 schestowitz[TR]; wiuth their microsoft-funded marketing capaigns
11:07 schestowitz[TR]; which include bribing some orgs, tor includied
11:07 schestowitz[TR]; for fake endorsements
11:07 reptilian_thrills; which is funny becasee if theres anyone that looks like a less irish version of mjg, its lennart poettering
11:07 schestowitz[TR]; paid-for ads
11:07 schestowitz[TR]; disguised as endorsements
11:07 reptilian_thrills; i mean they should wear matching outfits
11:07 reptilian_thrills; and do adverts for gum
11:07 schestowitz[TR]; if you combine their biomass they are one normal human
11:08 schestowitz[TR]; around 100kg
11:08 schestowitz[TR]; (joke()
11:08 schestowitz[TR]; or one torvalds
11:08 schestowitz[TR]; torvalds is short though
11:08 reptilian_thrills; i think of torvalds as heavyset
11:08 reptilian_thrills; but i think you mentioned spindley legs
11:08 schestowitz[TR]; so even with a belly and those worryingly slender legs (he used to heave health logs) he is probably around 85kg
11:09 scientes; https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/noprobe:d
11:09 TR Bot; Russia extremely disappointed as UNSC rejects probe into US biolab activity
11:09 scientes; they are only talking about Ukraine
11:09 reptilian_thrills; 85kg doesnt seem too bad for his height and age does it
11:09 scientes; and considering that the US/Euro considers Ukraine a shit-hole place, the only biological stuff there would be weapons
11:09 scientes; and no research
11:09 schestowitz[TR]; iirec, sam varghese had a go at mjg's weight
11:10 schestowitz[TR]; in an actual article!
11:10 reptilian_thrills; /me worries more about how hefty the kernel is
11:10 schestowitz[TR]; maybe he changed the wording later on
11:10 reptilian_thrills; i think mjg could take varghese though
11:10 schestowitz[TR]; not just the kernel http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/bloated-www/ http://techrights.org/2022/10/30/after-the-collapse-of-bloated-software-and-hardware/
11:10 TR Bot; [Meme] The World Wide Web Has Become Bloated and Slow | Techrights
11:10 TR Bot; After the Collapse of Bloated Software and Hardware | Techrights
11:10 schestowitz[TR]; some people just make software bigger and bigger
11:11 schestowitz[TR]; even when there ceases to be a practical reason for it
11:11 schestowitz[TR]; they justify that by "oooh! new hardwarezzzz!
11:11 schestowitz[TR]; and now you have photo editing built into css
11:11 reptilian_thrills; the bigger the software, the harder to fork
11:11 schestowitz[TR]; that too
11:11 reptilian_thrills; freedom 3 is for nerds
11:11 schestowitz[TR]; and release "often"
11:12 reptilian_thrills; now you have photo editing built into css <- im waiting for it to do email
11:12 TR News; [PATCH] Initial Granite Rapids support https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2022-November/604999.html more back-doored chipsets (ME)
11:12 TR Bot; [PATCH] Initial Granite Rapids support
11:12 schestowitz[TR]; reptilian_thrills: maybe
11:12 schestowitz[TR]; a:hover{
11:13 schestowitz[TR]; email: roy@...;
11:13 schestowitz[TR]; a:hover:onclick{
11:13 schestowitz[TR]; content: "hello world";
11:13 schestowitz[TR]; }
11:13 schestowitz[TR]; never too late!
11:13 schestowitz[TR]; look me! feeeechers
11:13 schestowitz[TR]; *ma
11:13 reptilian_thrills; .opening {email-client: 1;} <p class="opening"></p>
11:13 scientes; and the US is the one that started the biological non-sense ON ITS OWN PEOPLE with anthrax
11:14 reptilian_thrills; if thats wrong it gives you an idea how often i do css as a separate file or even outside of a tag or js
11:14 TR News; Oh dear. Intel produced garbage can-wrothy junk. ME??? https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-GSC-Firmware-Needs-ME
11:14 TR Bot; ME-Enabled System Needed For Updating Arc Graphics GSC Firmware - Phoronix
11:14 schestowitz[TR]; ^^
11:15 reptilian_thrills; (not in a year or two)
11:15 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid:
11:15 TR News; 1.3 billion announced for new Forestry Support https://diaspora.sceal.ie/p/1193417
11:15 TR Bot; 1.3 billion announced for new Forestry Support
11:16 TR News; b-parasite Bluetooth LE plant sensor gets Zigbee support - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/11/04/b-parasite-bluetooth-le-plant-sensor-gets-zigbee-support/ Source: CNX Software | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.cnx-software.com/2022/11/04/b-parasite-bluetooth-le-plant-sensor-gets-zigbee-support/
11:16 TR Bot; b-parasite Bluetooth LE plant sensor gets Zigbee support - CNX Software
11:17 psydruid; lol
11:17 psydruid; goodbye Intel
11:17 scientes; reptilian_thrills, last time I did HTML it wwwwas without CSS and with tables
11:17 psydruid; goodbye AMD
11:18 TR News; "Sometimes your best upgrades are unplanned; Chris just got his Home Assistant Yellow fully deployed." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-9004
11:18 reptilian_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=My-VUirw76w
11:18 TR Bot; Goodbye Toby - The Office US - Invidious
11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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11:28 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> look me! feeeechers <- https://techrights.org/2020/05/25/features-considered-harmful/
11:28 TR Bot; Features Considered Harmful | Techrights
11:28 reptilian_thrills; You Cannot Remove Google-Controlled Web Browsers From Debian | Techrights <- hahaha
11:37 reptilian_thrills; systemd-webbrowserd
11:37 reptilian_thrills; debian should just be renamed gafam/linux
11:38 reptilian_thrills; systemd-facebookd
11:46 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Security_Leftovers.gmi
11:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
11:46 TR News; (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Disk Utility http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Alternatives_to_Apple_Disk_Utility.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Alternatives_to_Apple_Disk_Utility.gmi
11:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Disk Utility
11:49 TR News; (NEW): Latest in Red and Canonical Corporate Sites http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/4_press_releases_fluff.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/4_press_releases_fluff.gmi
11:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Latest in Red and Canonical Corporate Sites
11:57 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi
11:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
11:57 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
11:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
11:58 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Android_Leftovers.gmi
11:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
11:58 TR News; (NEW): Software: Kubernetes, Docker, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Software_Kubernetes_Docker_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Software_Kubernetes_Docker_and_More.gmi
11:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines Software: Kubernetes, Docker, and More
noon, November 4
12:03 TR News; Links 04/11/2022: GParted Live 1.4.0-6 and Diffoscope 226 Released | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/04/gparted-live/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/04/gparted-live/
12:03 TR Bot; Links 04/11/2022: GParted Live 1.4.0-6 and Diffoscope 226 Released | Techrights
12:06 TR News; Writing Yet Another Static Site Generator gemini://lieba.ch/log/writing-yet-another-static-site-generator.gmi
12:07 TR News; "Deal:" = "SPAM:" and Sourav Rudra has turned ItsFOSS to trash lately, promoting PROPRIETARY (NON-FOSS) in it https://news.itsfoss.com/proton-black-friday-deal/
12:07 TR Bot; Deal: Proton is Offering Up to 50% Off for Mail, Drive, VPN, and More
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12:17 TR News; Top 10 Linux Distribution with XFCE Desktop https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NkfXQzzIusI | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/NkfXQzzIusI up soon (100 mins): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkfXQzzIusI
12:17 TR Bot; ( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NkfXQzzIusI )
12:17 TR Bot; https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=NkfXQzzIusI
12:17 TR Bot; not resolve host: invidious.osi.kr; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=NkfXQzzIusI )
12:17 TR News; This long-awaited feature has finally dropped (plus other Deck News) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=M5qa2NtZVQY | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/M5qa2NtZVQY
12:17 TR Bot; This long-awaited feature has finally dropped (plus other Deck News) - Invidious
12:19 TR News; "There is a post at the Free Range Activism Website about the deeper meaning buried in the data on carbon emissions that analyzes and visualizes those data with charts like this" https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/03/the-deeper-meaning-of-every-data/
12:19 TR Bot; The deeper meaning of EVERY data | Stop at Zona-M
12:19 TR News; All considered, an EV revolution will do next to nothing to mitigate climate change, especially not one involving all the heavy and powerful cars needed to keep the hype train going and overcome range anxiety. https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/03/the-only-way-to-reduce-pollution-with-electric-cars.../
12:19 TR Bot; The ONLY way to reduce pollution with electric cars... | Stop at Zona-M
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:20 TR News; LibreOffice project and community recap: October 2022 - The Document Foundation Blog https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/11/04/libreoffice-project-and-community-recap-october-2022/ Source: Document Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/11/04/libreoffice-project-and-community-recap-october-2022/
12:20 TR Bot; LibreOffice project and community recap: October 2022 - The Document Foundation Blog
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12:21 TR News; Collaboras Contributions to the LibreOffice Conference 2022 in Milan - Collabora Office and Collabora Online https://www.collaboraoffice.com/community-news/collaboras-contributions-to-the-libreoffice-conference-2022-in-milan/ Source: Collabora ; "The Collabora team gave talks on recent developments during the LibreOffice Conference 2022. Watch the talks, download the slides!"
12:21 TR Bot; Collabora's Contributions to the LibreOffice Conference 2022 in Milan - Collabora Office and Collabora Online
12:22 TR News; "Access Now is further increasing the pressure, and joins human rights organizations in demanding leaders and powerbrokers from across the globe including the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, the UK government, and civil society" https://www.accessnow.org/alaa-egypt-cop27/
12:22 TR Bot; COP27 in Egypt: stop greenwashing, free human rights defenders - Access Now
12:26 TR News; 14 Open Source Free NVR Solutions For Home and Business Security https://medevel.com/os-nvr-solutions/ Source: Medevel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//medevel.com/os-nvr-solutions/
12:26 TR Bot; 14 Open Source Free NVR Solutions For Home and Business Security
12:40 TR News; Hamza Mousa posing Windows trash today. medevel used to be better than this. Recently a wave of Webspam and now this. Sadly, a lot of "FOSS" and "Linux" sites perished like this in 2022. Better to just shut down with some dignity/reputation (like Groklaw did). http://techrights.org/2022/10/24/medevel-is-the-medevil/
12:40 TR Bot; medevel.com Posts 3 Spam Articles in One Day (75% of the Whole), Insists You Enable Ads to Read the Spam | Techrights
12:42 TR News; That just means the classifiers work at a higher scale than before. None of this is new except buzzwords and hype. https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3pezm/scientists-increasingly-cant-explain-how-ai-works
12:42 TR Bot; Scientists Increasingly Cant Explain How AI Works
12:43 TR News; Study urges caution when comparing neural networks to the brain https://news.mit.edu/2022/neural-networks-brain-function-1102 sadly, the source of this is MIT, which bags bribes from child-sex traffickers, then covers it up by punishing the people who OPPOSE it
12:43 TR Bot; Study urges caution when comparing neural networks to the brain | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology
12:45 TR News; Lesson of the story: DO NOT give data to companies that do not need this (or data they don't need about you, nor do you need) https://cacm.acm.org/news/266248-samsung-breach-slams-consumers/fulltext
12:45 TR Bot; Samsung Breach Slams Consumers | News | Communications of the ACM
12:45 TR News; The Sci-Fi Dream of a Molecular Computer Is Getting More Real | WIRED https://www.wired.com/story/the-sci-fi-dream-of-a-molecular-computer-is-getting-more-real/ Source: Wired | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.wired.com/story/the-sci-fi-dream-of-a-molecular-computer-is-getting-more-real/
12:45 TR Bot; Sci-Fi Dream of a Molecular Computer Is Getting More Real | WIRED
12:48 TR News; "C is chroma, from gray to the most saturated color." https://evilmartians.com/chronicles/oklch-in-css-why-quit-rgb-hsl |
12:48 TR Bot; OKLCH in CSS: why we moved from RGB and HSLMartian Chronicles, Evil Martians team blog
12:49 TR News; "We have a somewhat unusual problem" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/GettingProblemReportsProblem | Source: uni Toronto
12:49 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/GettingProblemReportsProblem
12:49 TR News; "Using !important with custom properties might not work as you expect." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day29/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic
12:49 TR Bot; Day 29: !important custom properties - Manuel Matuzovi
12:51 TR News; "Yes, Im trying to use the blog more, rather than dumping everything to multiple social media outlets." https://mwl.io/archives/22367 | Source: MWL
12:51 TR Bot; Two pieces by me in this months FreeBSD Journal Michael W Lucas
12:51 TR News; "Dont forget! The FreeBSD Journal is now free and available only on the Browser-Based Edition." https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-work/journal/browser-based-edition/ | Source: FreeBSD
12:51 TR Bot; Browser-Based Edition | FreeBSD Foundation
12:51 TR News; "Howdy folks! I'm Dryw, a new engineer here at SparkFun!" https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5461 | Source: SparkFun Electronics
12:51 TR Bot; Brightness Standardization - News - SparkFun Electronics
12:52 TR News; "Back in January I wrote Why I Use Librem Social." https://dallincrump.com/why-i-moved-to-fosstodon |
12:52 TR Bot; Why I Moved to Fosstodon Dallin Crump
12:52 TR News; "Spinrite is a hard drive recovery and maintenande utility written by Steve Gibson from Gibson Research Corporation." https://raymii.org/s/blog/Spinrite_6.0_on_UEFI_and_NVMe_ssd_drives.html | Source: Remy Van Elst
12:52 TR Bot; 6.0 on UEFI and an NVMe SSD drive - Raymii.org
12:53 TR News; "This included examples of scanning comments above classes to ensure they referred to the appropriate object, ensuring that specific function calls always included a specific (optional) parameter, etc." https://blog.steve.fi/alphabetical_linting___.html | Source: Steve Kemp
12:53 TR Bot; Alphabetical linting ..
12:54 TR News; "Pushing calculation down to a faster implementation is just one way to speed up software." https://pythonspeed.com/articles/old-fashioned-software-optimized/ | Source: Python Speed
12:54 TR Bot; Good old-fashioned code optimization never goes out of style
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12:55 TR News; "What Im over, though, is advice thats about how horrible everyone else is emailing." https://idiomdrottning.org/email-netiquette | Source: Idiomdrottning
12:55 TR Bot; Email Netiquette
12:55 TR News; "I've always been a bit of a collector of hobbies." http://flower.codes/2022/11/03/merit-badges-for-grownups.html | Source: Zach Flower
12:55 TR Bot; Badges for Grownups | flower.codes
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12:57 TR News; "Microsoft's financial commitment of more than $400 million" to hijack the country's infra https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/microsoft-extends-aid-ukraines-wartime-tech-innovation-92594391 | Source: ABC
12:57 TR Bot; Microsoft extends aid for Ukraine's wartime tech innovation - ABC News
12:58 TR News; "Its worthwhile to convert as many systems as possible to use non-SMS MFA" https://brr.fyi/posts/sms-mfa |
12:58 TR Bot; SMS Multifactor Authentication in Antarctica
12:59 TR News; "The Federal Constitutional Court has ruled that the domestic secret service violates the principle of separation." https://digit.site36.net/2022/11/03/german-secret-service-law-does-not-have-to-go-into-the-shredder/ | Source: Site36
12:59 TR Bot; German secret service law does not have to go into the shredder Security Architectures in the EU
12:59 TR News; "The EU commission has proposed a new law to protect children against abuse." https://chatcontrol.dk/en/ |
12:59 TR Bot; Chat Control: Your private messages will be scanned!
12:59 TR News; "ByteDance, a company based in Beijing, developed TikTok" https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2022/07/tiktok-is-unacceptable-security-risk-and-should-be-removed-from-app-stores-says-fcc |
12:59 TR Bot; TikTok is "unacceptable security risk" and should be removed from app stores, says FCC
1 PM, November 4
13:00 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 66.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 131.03
13:00 TR News; "In their opinion the law would negatively impact communication behaviour of minors and generally freedom of speech and expression." https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/bundestag-legal-experts-find-eu-chat-control-csam-scanner-plan-would-not-hold-up-in-court/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
13:00 TR Bot; Bundestag legal experts find: EU Chat Control CSAM scanner plan would not hold up in court Patrick Breyer
13:02 TR News; "Credit card companies have a hard time with this." https://brr.fyi/posts/credit-card-shenanigans |
13:02 TR Bot; Credit Card Shenanigans
13:05 TR News; "Musk has already indicated that he would make job cuts at Twitter, telling employees at a town-hall meeting this summer that there needs to be a rationalization of headcount at the social network." https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/twitter-layoffs-via-email-elon-musk-1235423032/ | Source: Variety
13:05 TR Bot; to Make Massive Layoffs Friday via Email - Variety
13:06 TR News; "Swedish and many other governments and data protection offices coming to that same conclusion" https://nextcloud.com/blog/european-governments-work-with-nextcloud-to-build-digitally-sovereign-office/ | Source: Next Cloud
13:06 TR Bot; Governments work with Nextcloud to build Digitally Sovereign Office - Nextcloud
13:07 TR News; Misinformation https://text.npr.org/1133743997 | Source: NPR
13:07 TR Bot; Doctors and advocates tackle a spike of abortion misinformation in Spanish
13:07 TR News; "There's no evidence for any of this." https://text.npr.org/1133686674 | Source: NPR
13:07 TR Bot; How documentary-style films turn conspiracy theories into a call to action
13:11 TR News; Kyrgyz https://www.rferl.org/a/kyrgyzstan-journalist-house-arrest-extremism/32113870.html | Source: RFERL
13:11 TR Bot; Kyrgyz Journalist Placed Under House Arrest On Extremism Charge
13:17 TR News; "But while these unseeable processes shape our online experience" https://jacobin.com/2022/11/big-tech-algorithms-invisible-labor-microworker-ai-industry/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
13:17 TR Bot; Big Techs Algorithms Are Built With Invisible Labor
13:17 TR News; "While both murals show Marge cutting her trademark blue beehive hairdo" https://www.rferl.org/a/marge-simpson-mural-iranian-consulate-milan/32110725.html | Source: RFERL
13:17 TR Bot; Marge Simpson Mural Supporting Women Reappears Near Iranian Consulate In Milan
13:19 TR News; "Videos posted on social media show a large number of protesters in Karaj" https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-protesters-violent-response/32114495.html | Source: RFERL
13:19 TR Bot; Videos Of Latest Protests In Iranian Cities Appear To Show Violent Response Of Security Forces
13:19 TR News; "So while for Q1 AT&T had reported 76.8 million total HBO and HBO Max subscribers worldwide" https://variety.com/2022/streaming/news/hbo-max-discovery-plus-subscribers-q3-1235422137/ | Source: Variety
13:19 TR Bot; Max, Discovery+ Streaming Subscribers Rise to 95 Million in Q3 - Variety
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:20 TR News; "The post sparked a debate in the comments about the ethics of fine-tuning an AI on the work of a specific living artist, even as new fine-tuned models are posted daily." https://waxy.org/2022/11/invasive-diffusion-how-one-unwilling-illustrator-found-herself-turned-into-an-ai-model/ | Source: Andy Baio
13:20 TR Bot; Diffusion: How one unwilling illustrator found herself turned into an AI model - Waxy.org
13:20 TR News; "While theres a long-established culture of creating fan art from copyrighted manga and anime, many are drawing a line in the sand where AI creates a similar artwork." https://restofworld.org/2022/ai-backlash-anime-artists/ | Source: Rest of World
13:20 TR Bot; AI-generated art sparks furious backlash from Japans anime community - Rest of World
13:25 TR News; "This weeks openSUSE Tumbleweed snapshots continued to roll forward and update more than 150 software packages" https://news.opensuse.org/2022/11/03/llvm-sudo-plasma-up-in-tw/ | Source: OpenSUSE
13:25 TR Bot; LLVM, sudo, Plasma update in Tumbleweed - openSUSE News
13:26 TR News; "AdventureX, a UK-based convention dedicated to narrative-driven gaming is having a Steam Event and sale on various games." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/check-out-some-narrative-adventures-in-the-steam-adventurex-event/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:26 TR Bot; out some narrative adventures in the Steam AdventureX Event | GamingOnLinux
13:26 TR News; "Star Labs announced their new StarFighter a little while ago, but it seems it only just recently went live on their actual store with the full info on what to expect from it." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/star-labs-new-starfighter-sounds-like-a-great-linux-laptop/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:26 TR Bot; Labs new StarFighter sounds like a great Linux laptop | GamingOnLinux
13:27 TR News; "Do you love Slay the Spire and want to take it into the real world? There's a Board Game being made for it." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/slay-the-spire-is-getting-an-official-board-game/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:27 TR Bot; the Spire is getting an official Board Game | GamingOnLinux
13:27 TR News; "The free and open source RTS Warzone 2100 has a new release out" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/warzone-2100-version-43-is-out-now-with-a-new-super-easy-mode/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:27 TR Bot; 2100 version 4.3 is out now with a new 'Super Easy' mode | GamingOnLinux
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13:33 TR News; "Today at the AMD "together we advance_gaming" event, AMD revealed their new RDNA3 architecture along with the RX 7900 XTX and RX 7900 XT GPUs." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/amd-announce-rx-7900-xtx-and-rx-7900-xt-plus-fsr3-teased/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:33 TR Bot; timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/amd-announce-rx-7900-xtx-and-rx-7900-xt-plus-fsr3-teased/ )
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13:40 TR News; iophk: a sad fact is that many younger people have never used e-mail except maybe web-mail and that does not count; this is only yet another move into further centralization and loss of agency; led by GNOME of course https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/gnome-hates-mailing-lists-and-is-ending:d
13:40 TR Bot; GNOME Hates Mailing Lists And Is Ending It!!
13:41 TR News; Paid fellowship program to create open source software https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/paid-fellowship-program-to-create-open:d Source: |
13:41 TR Bot; Paid fellowship program to create open source software
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13:44 TR News; 2 Factor Authentication: How to Counter its Abuse by Big Tech https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/2fadefense:f
13:44 TR Bot; 2 Factor Authentication: How to Counter its Abuse by Big Tech
13:46 TR News; Ukrainian soldiers are picking up new skills even from YouTube to fight Russia https://text.npr.org/1133549136
13:46 TR Bot; Ukrainian soldiers are picking up new skills even from YouTube to fight Russia
13:46 TR News; "Up on Steam right now is a free weekend for Deep Rock Galactic, easily one of the best co-op shooters around." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/play-one-of-the-greatest-co-op-shooters-free-this-weekend/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:47 TR Bot; one of the greatest co-op shooters free this weekend | GamingOnLinux
13:47 TR News; "Well this is exciting! Even more people will be able to play games on Linux from today, as Google announced Steam on Chromebook is now in Beta." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/steam-on-chromebook-is-now-in-beta-with-amd-support/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:47 TR Bot; on Chromebook is now in Beta with AMD support | GamingOnLinux
13:47 TR News; "Another fresh Steam Client Beta for Desktop has been released, and Valve continue fixing up more issues with the new Big Picture Mode" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/valve-has-improved-the-new-big-picture-mode-for-desktop-quite-a-bit-in-a-new-beta/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:47 TR Bot; has improved the new Big Picture Mode for Desktop quite a bit in a new Beta | GamingOnLinux
13:47 TR News; "Recently, EA starting removing Origin from games on Steam and replacing it with the EA app which as I noted before" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/valve-fix-new-ea-app-in-proton-experimental-for-linux-and-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:47 TR Bot; fix new EA app in Proton Experimental for Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
13:55 TR News; "Amazon's Prime Gaming service has been dishing outfree-to-keep games to itssubscribers for some time now" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/access-your-amazon-prime-gaming-library-on-linux-with-the-nile-project/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:55 TR Bot; your Amazon Prime Gaming library on Linux with the Nile Project | GamingOnLinux
13:55 TR News; "JSAUX, maker of many Steam Deck Docking Stations, might be teasing a clear Back Plate they're designing for the Steam Deck." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/jsaux-teasing-a-clear-back-plate-for-the-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:55 TR Bot; teasing a clear Back Plate for the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
13:55 TR News; "Available in the Beta and Preview channels" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/loading-bigger-libraries-should-be-faster-in-the-new-steam-deck-beta/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:55 TR Bot; bigger libraries should be faster in the new Steam Deck Beta | GamingOnLinux
13:59 TR News; "In the Lua programming language, an array is called a table. A table is used in Lua to store data." https://opensource.com/article/22/11/iterate-over-tables-lua | Source: OpenSource.com
13:59 TR News; "Lua has been somewhat eclipsed from the public view by languages like Python and JavaScript" https://opensource.com/article/22/11/lua-worth-learning | Source: OpenSource.com
13:59 TR Bot; timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://opensource.com/article/22/11/iterate-over-tables-lua )
13:59 TR Bot; Lua worth learning? | Opensource.com
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14:00 TR News; "Welcome to the concluding blog of this mini-series on tapping into the fourth industrial revolution." https://ubuntu.com//blog/industry-4-part-ii-2 | Source: Ubuntu
14:00 TR Bot; IT / OT convergence in Industry 4.0 [Part III] | Ubuntu
14:02 TR News; "The MeLE PCG02 Pro is a fanless PC compatible with the Celeron J4125 or the Celeron N5105 Intel processors." https://linuxgizmos.com/stick-pc-available-with-gemini-lake-or-jasper-lake-cpus/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
14:02 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/stick-pc-available-with-gemini-lake-or-jasper-lake-cpus/ )
14:03 TR News; old, repeat: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/library/study-about-impact-open-source-software-and-hardware-technological-independence-competitiveness-and
14:03 TR Bot; Study about the impact of open source software and hardware on technological independence, competitiveness and innovation in the EU economy | Shaping Europes digital future
14:03 TR News; Explore EU Voice - EU Voice https://social.network.europa.eu/explore Source: Social Engineer | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//social.network.europa.eu/explore
14:03 TR Bot; Explore EU Voice - EU Voice
14:04 TR News; comments on an mastodon instance shutting down https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/hey,-dt!-mastodon-sucks-because-of-this!:9
14:04 TR Bot; "Hey, DT! Mastodon SUCKS because of THIS!" (And Other Comments)
14:07 TR News; Elbonia The Heckhole - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-11-03 | Dilbert by Scott Adams https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-11-03
14:07 TR Bot; The Heckhole - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-11-03 | Dilbert by Scott Adams
14:08 TR News; (NEW): Games: Steam (DRM), Board Games, and Free/Libre Games http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Games_Steam_DRM_Board_Games_and_Free_Libre_Games.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Games_Steam_DRM_Board_Games_and_Free_Libre_Games.gmi
14:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Steam (DRM), Board Games, and Free/Libre Games
14:11 TR News; "In this tutorial, we look at how to install VirtualBox 7.0 in RHEL 9 and RHEL 8 distributions" https://www.tecmint.com/install-virtualbox-rhel/ | Source: TecMint
14:11 TR Bot; How to Install and Use VirtualBox in RHEL 9/8
14:11 TR News; "File transfer over a network can be done in various ways and using different protocols." https://ostechnix.com/securely-transfer-files-with-scp-in-linux/ | Source: OSTechNix
14:11 TR Bot; To Securely Transfer Files With SCP In Linux - OSTechNix
14:15 TR News; Twitter is NOT a communication tool but mass MANIPULATION tool https://truthout.org/articles/aoc-says-her-twitter-account-hasnt-worked-properly-since-she-criticized-musk/ | Source: TruthOut
14:15 TR Bot; AOC Says Her Twitter Account Hasnt Worked Properly Since She Criticized Musk
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:20 MinceR; https://apina.biz/163727.jpg?mode=sfw
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14:22 TR News; SpellBinding: AFINOTX Wordo: ELBOW gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-11-04.gmi
14:30 TR News; "From the standpoint of an individual worker, or the economy, it doesnt matter if their labor is no longer needed due to an assembly line speed-up" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/11/04/how-the-elites-are-really-screwing-the-masses/ | Source: Counter Punch
14:30 TR Bot; the Elites are Really Screwing the Masses - CounterPunch.org
14:33 TR News; The climate needs less energy consumption, not "clean" or "green" energy https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/11/04/clean-energy-is-booming-heres-the-bad-news/ | Source: Counter Punch
14:33 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/11/04/clean-energy-is-booming-heres-the-bad-news/ )
14:35 TR News; Twitter is finished. Stick a fork in it. It's done. https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/11/04/elon-musk-plans-to-profit-from-twitter-not-create-a-town-square-for-global-democracy/ | Source: Counter Punch
14:35 TR Bot; Musk Plans to Profit From Twitter, Not Create a Town Square for Global Democracy - CounterPunch.org
14:36 TR News; inflation https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/11/04/how-progressives-would-handle-current-energy-inflation-and-climate-crises | Source: Common Dreams
14:36 TR Bot; Opinion | How Progressives Would Handle the Current Energy, Inflation, and Climate Crises | Dorothy Grace Guerrero
14:38 TR News; "ournalist and media critic James Fallows did us a service by recently pointing out in a couple of his of his posts that among the media's most unexamined and hoary clichs is that fabled phrase" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/11/04/media-frenzy-over-high-gas-prices-obscures-inconvenient-truth | Source: Common Dreams
14:38 TR Bot; Opinion | The Media Frenzy Over High Gas Prices Obscures an Inconvenient Truth | Mike Lofgren
14:39 TR News; Twitter needs more tiny violins. It's dying, Jim. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/04/musk-owned-twitter-sued-violating-ca-and-federal-law-mass-layoffs | Source: Common Dreams
14:39 TR Bot; Musk-Owned Twitter Sued for Violating CA and Federal Law With Mass Layoffs
14:46 TR News; Theft https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/03/graph-shows-where-surging-corporate-profits-increasingly-go-tax-havens | Source: Common Dreams
14:46 TR Bot; This Graph Shows Where Surging Corporate Profits Increasingly Go: Tax Havens
14:46 TR News; Election already purchased https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/03/drowning-our-democracy-us-billionaires-have-pumped-nearly-900000000-midterms | Source: Common Dreams
14:46 TR Bot; 'Drowning Our Democracy': US Billionaires Have Pumped Nearly $900,000,000 Into Midterms
14:50 TR News; "Thankfully one of our longtime supporters has stepped up this week and promised to match every donation of$50 or more" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/11/04/roaming-charges-72/ | Source: Counter Punch
14:50 TR Bot; Charges: History Ain't Changed - CounterPunch.org
14:50 TR News; "Progressive economists have estimated that corporate profits are to blame for at least 40% of price increases" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/03/powell-wasnt-asked-single-question-about-corporate-profits-driving-inflation | Source: Common Dreams
14:50 TR Bot; Powell Wasn't Asked a Single Question About Corporate Profits Driving Inflation
14:53 TR News; "Last year Amazon rang up record-breaking sales between Black Fridaythe day after Thanksgivingand Cyber Monday." https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/black-friday-make-amazon-pay/ | Source: The Nation
14:53 TR Bot; Black Friday: A Good Day to Make Amazon Pay | The Nation
14:58 TR News; "This is a minor release for desktop platforms intended to facilitate the single-locale to multi-locale bundle" https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1157/ | Source: Tor
14:58 TR Bot; New Release: Tor Browser 11.5.7 (Windows, macOS, Linux) | The Tor Project
14:58 TR News; Get kids creating webpages with HTML and CSS https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/learning-html-and-css/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
14:58 TR Bot; Learning HTML and CSS - Raspberry Pi
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 45.63 average k/sec., average swarm size 131.35
3 PM, November 4
15:01 TR News; Public Citizen https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/03/corporate-lobbying-onslaught-tanked-anti-price-gouging-bills-inflation-surged | Source: Common Dreams
15:01 TR Bot; Corporate Lobbying 'Onslaught' Tanked Anti-Price Gouging Bills as Inflation Surged
15:02 TR News; california https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/03/university-california-academic-workers-overwhelmingly-vote-strike | Source: Common Dreams
15:02 TR Bot; University of California Academic Workers Overwhelmingly Vote to Strike
15:02 TR News; "Powell's public remarks offer little insight into how he expects higher rates to tame inflation" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/03/top-economist-major-global-bank-says-corporate-profits-are-fueling-inflation | Source: Common Dreams
15:02 TR Bot; Top Economist at Major Global Bank Says Corporate Profits Are Fueling Inflation
15:05 TR News; Debt https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/cop-27-climate-change/ | Source: The Nation
15:05 TR Bot; Debt and Inequality Will Be Key Issues at the UNs Next Climate Conference | The Nation
15:06 TR News; Hacker Charged With Extorting Online Psychotherapy Service - Krebs on Security https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/11/hacker-charged-with-extorting-online-psychotherapy-service/ Source: Krebs On Security | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//krebsonsecurity.com/2022/11/hacker-charged-with-extorting-online-psychotherapy-service/
15:06 TR Bot; Hacker Charged With Extorting Online Psychotherapy Service Krebs on Security
15:06 TR News; "The unauthorized project started collectingor attempting to collect datathat included US persons communications" https://shadowproof.com/2022/11/03/nsa-whistleblower-unearthed-project-targeting-us-communications/ | Source: Shadowproof
15:06 TR Bot; NSA Whistleblower Unearthed 'Project' Targeting US Persons' Data
15:07 TR News; The results speak for themselves: people leave in droves, the real clients (advertisers) DO TOO https://scheerpost.com/2022/11/04/is-elon-musk-the-best-or-the-worst-for-twitter/ | Source: Scheerpost
15:07 TR Bot; Elon Musk the Best or the Worst for Twitter? - scheerpost.com
15:08 TR News; california https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/03/too-many-unknown-factors-california-lawmakers-object-genetically-engineered | Source: Common Dreams
15:08 TR Bot; 'Too Many Unknown Factors': California Lawmakers Object to Genetically Engineered Mosquitoes
15:08 TR News; Cargill https://scheerpost.com/2022/11/03/the-truth-about-cargill-the-most-evil-company/ | Source: Scheerpost
15:08 TR Bot; Truth About Cargill: The Most Evil Company - scheerpost.com
15:09 TR News; Whistleblower https://thedissenter.org/nsa-whistleblower-unearthed-project-targeting-us-communications/ | Source: The Dissenter
15:09 TR Bot; NSA Whistleblower Unearthed 'Project' Targeting US Persons' Data
15:10 TR News; "A major challenge of robotic arms is the weight of the actuators, especially closer to the end of the arm." https://hackaday.com/2022/11/03/3-dof-robot-arm-wrist-without-the-motor-weight/ | Source: Hackaday
15:10 TR Bot; Robot Arm Wrist Without The Motor Weight | Hackaday
15:10 TR News; "Several domains related to popular ebook repository Z-Library became inaccessible a few hours ago." https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-authorities-seize-z-library-domain-names-221104/ | Source: Torrent Freak
15:10 TR Bot; Authorities Seize Z-Library Domain Names' * TorrentFreak
15:10 TR News; "Internet provider Grande Communications is liable for the copyright infringements of its subscribers" https://torrentfreak.com/record-labels-wins-47-million-piracy-liability-verdict-against-isp-grande-221104/ | Source: Torrent Freak
15:10 TR Bot; Labels Win $47 Million Piracy Liability Verdict Against ISP Grande * TorrentFreak
15:11 TR News; "Its no secret that Raspberry Pis are a little hard to come by these days" https://hackaday.com/2022/11/04/thin-client-and-smartphone-step-in-for-3d-printers-raspberry-pi-and-touchscreen/ | Source: Hackaday
15:11 TR Bot; Client And Smartphone Step In For 3D Printers Raspberry Pi And Touchscreen | Hackaday
15:18 TR News; "How many of us have an everyday tool thats truly unique? Likely not many of us" https://hackaday.com/2022/11/03/walnut-case-sets-this-custom-arduino-powered-rpn-calculator-apart-from-the-crowd/ | Source: Hackaday
15:18 TR Bot; Case Sets This Custom Arduino-Powered RPN Calculator Apart From The Crowd | Hackaday
15:18 TR News; Piece of junk. We used to have phones, real phones, that went on and on for WEEKS without ANY charges https://hackaday.com/2022/11/03/just-how-fast-could-you-charge-an-iphone/ | Source: Hackaday
15:18 TR Bot; How Fast Could You Charge An IPhone? | Hackaday
15:18 TR News; "The owner of pirate IPTV service Marvel Streams UK appeared in court this week expecting to go to prison" https://torrentfreak.com/premier-league-celebrates-success-as-iptv-pirate-walks-out-of-court-221103/ | Source: Torrent Freak
15:18 TR Bot; League Celebrates "Success" as IPTV Pirate Walks Out of Court * TorrentFreak
15:19 TR News; "Over recent decades, theatrical movie release windows have shrunk significantly around the world." https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-mandatory-release-windows-could-exacerbate-piracy-221103/ | Source: Torrent Freak
15:19 TR Bot; Mandatory Release Windows Could Exacerbate Piracy * TorrentFreak
15:19 TR News; LED Diffuser fetish https://hackaday.com/2022/11/03/led-diffusers-confusing-organize-a-practical-contest/ | Source: Hackaday
15:19 TR Bot; Diffusers Confusing? Organize A Practical Contest | Hackaday
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:20 TR News; "Big businesses really should know better as to how trademark law works." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/03/ikea-bullies-indie-developer-into-changing-game-set-in-a-furniture-store/ | Source: Techdirt
15:20 TR Bot; Bullies Indie Developer Into Changing Game Set In A Furniture Store | Techdirt
15:21 TR News; Twitter is dying too fast to be worth "staying" on https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/03/as-musk-speedruns-the-content-moderation-curve-some-of-his-biggest-fans-are-getting-mad-at-him/ | Source: Techdirt
15:21 TR Bot; Musk Speedruns The Content Moderation Curve, Some Of His Biggest Fans Are Getting Mad At Him | Techdirt
15:22 TR News; New turns to propaganda https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/03/nobody-seems-to-have-an-answer-for-propaganda-posing-as-local-news/ | Source: Techdirt
15:22 TR Bot; Seems To Have An Answer For Propaganda Posing As Local News | Techdirt
15:25 TR News; Remember the "Turbo Button"? https://hackaday.com/2022/11/03/turbo-button-pays-charming-homage-to-early-personal-computers/ | Source: Hackaday
15:25 TR Bot; Button Pays Charming Homage To Early Personal Computers | Hackaday
15:26 TR News; "In most modern homes, any adjustable shelves or cabinets have metal shelf pins set inside conveniently spaced holes." https://hackaday.com/2022/11/04/adjusting-shelves-like-its-1899/ | Source: Hackaday
15:26 TR Bot; Shelves Like Its 1899 | Hackaday
15:27 TR News; <li>
15:27 TR News; Andy Stone https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/03/dude-who-filed-ridiculous-lawsuit-over-title-of-mariah-careys-most-famous-song-drops-case-after-pretending-they-sound-the-same/ | Source: Techdirt
15:27 TR Bot; Who Filed Ridiculous Lawsuit Over Title Of Mariah Careys Most Famous Song Drops Case After Pretending They Sound The Same | Techdirt
15:27 TR News; "Perhaps the last people who should be asked to define consent would be cops." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/03/court-reminds-cops-that-pointing-a-bunch-of-guns-at-someone-doesnt-make-a-search-consensual/ | Source: Techdirt
15:27 TR Bot; Reminds Cops That Pointing A Bunch Of Guns At Someone Doesnt Make A Search Consensual | Techdirt
15:28 TR News; Bruce Schneier as NSA megaphone https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/11/nsa-on-supply-chain-security.html
15:29 TR Bot; on Supply Chain Security - Schneier on Security
15:29 TR News; LHS Episode #487: The Weekender XCVIII | Linux in the Ham Shack https://lhspodcast.info/2022/11/lhs-episode-487-the-weekender-xcviii-2/ Source: Linux in the Ham Shack | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lhspodcast.info/2022/11/lhs-episode-487-the-weekender-xcviii-2/
15:29 TR Bot; LHS Episode #487: The Weekender XCVIII | Linux in the Ham Shack
15:31 TR News; 5 BONS motivos para USAR Arch Linux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QHF2rbJ2J88 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/QHF2rbJ2J88
15:31 TR Bot; 5 BONS motivos para USAR Arch Linux - Invidious
15:32 TR News; How to Create a Web Archive With Archivebox - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/create-web-archive-with-archivebox/ Source: Make Tech Easier | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.maketecheasier.com/create-web-archive-with-archivebox/
15:32 TR Bot; How to Create a Web Archive With Archivebox - Make Tech Easier
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15:32 TR News; History of Computer Viruses - Malware | What Was Their Impact? https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/computer-viruses-and-malware-history/ Source: eSecurity Planet | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/computer-viruses-and-malware-history/
15:32 TR Bot; History of Computer Viruses & Malware | What Was Their Impact?
15:33 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi
15:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
15:34 TR News; Top 10 Linux Distribution with XFCE Desktop - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NkfXQzzIusI | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/NkfXQzzIusI
15:34 TR Bot; Top 10 Linux Distribution with XFCE Desktop - Invidious
15:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], Regarding unconstitutional searches, the cops are pretty much used to focusing their pestering, harassment, and death threats against people too poor to contest what's happened in court.
15:34 schestowitz[TR]; hi, ryan
15:34 schestowitz[TR]; gtg in a minute
15:35 DaemonFC; You only have the rights you can afford to exercise in a court of law.
15:35 schestowitz[TR]; please stay on tech
15:35 schestowitz[TR]; otherwise MinceR will whck you ;-)
15:35 schestowitz[TR]; bbl :-)
15:35 DaemonFC; Do you think many people are in my position where they can spend almost $3,000 requesting an expungement and hoping for the best?
15:36 DaemonFC; Theoretically, you can represent yourself in court just like you can on anything else, but they make the paperwork complicated enough that if you don't hire an attorney, you'll probably botch something.
15:37 DaemonFC; Judges and State's Attorneys do not take pro se litigants seriously.
15:37 DaemonFC; The judge warns that you're expected to conduct yourself like a lawyer would in the courtroom and to know all of their rules and procedures, and of course you won't.
15:38 DaemonFC; Nearly everyone who ends up arguing their own case in court ends up losing rather badly and perhaps even being found in contempt.
15:39 DaemonFC; What's constitutional depends on how much money you have. There are pro bono legal resources, but they're understaffed, and generally only help a few people.
15:40 DaemonFC; I asked one of them in Chicago if they could help me and Mandy file Immigration paperwork and they never even bothered to reply.
15:40 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/twitter-layoffs-begin-a-week-after-elon-musks-takeover/
15:40 TR Bot; Twitter layoffs begin a week after Elon Musks takeover | WGN-TV
15:40 DaemonFC; "The layoffs come at a tough time for social media companies, as advertisers are scaling back and newcomers mainly TikTok are threatening the older class of social media platforms like Twitter and Facebook."
15:41 DaemonFC; Fakebook has been trying to do "short videos" called "reels". It's ridiculous. It's like TikTok style crap.
15:41 DaemonFC; "In a tweet sent Friday while employees were learning if theyd lost their jobs, Musk blamed activists for what he described as a massive drop in revenue since he took over Twitter late last week. He did not say how much revenue had dropped."
15:41 DaemonFC; So what advertisers there were are bailing on him, as predicted.
15:42 DaemonFC; The company was already losing hundreds of millions of dollars per year.
15:42 DaemonFC; It has over $13 billion in debt, and the servicing costs are about a billion a year.
15:45 MinceR; should be fine for elongated muskrat
15:45 MinceR; all he does anyway is throw his parents' ill-gotten money around
15:45 MinceR; and try to buy credit for what other people have done
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15:52 DaemonFC; MinceR, Yeah. The only reason he doesn't try to call himself "Founder of Twitter" is because it's been around so long that people would know he wasn't.
15:52 DaemonFC; He bought the rights to use that title at Tesla from the people who actually started the company.
15:53 MinceR; maybe he'll try later if he lives long enough
15:53 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/president-biden-in-illinois-friday-ahead-of-midterms/
15:53 TR Bot; President Biden in Illinois Friday ahead of midterms | WGN-TV
15:53 DaemonFC; Things are so bad for the Democrats that they're calling Biden and Harris in to campaign in Illinois for J.B. Pritzker.
15:54 DaemonFC; Not sure if that's a great idea or not.
15:54 DaemonFC; What are they going to call it? The "People who hyperinflated your bank account balance away, destroyed your job, and locked you in your house for a year." tour?
15:55 MinceR; no, the people who aren't trump tour
15:55 MinceR; that's the only thing the "democrats" can come up with since 2016
15:55 MinceR; and the only thing they're trying to do
15:55 MinceR; biden was the "just barely less bad than trump" candidate
15:56 MinceR; and they don't even have to try hard
15:56 MinceR; if dump comes back for the 2024 election, he'll tear the "republican" party in half
4 PM, November 4
16:02 DaemonFC; Privately, many Republicans in Congress do not want Trump to come back.
16:02 DaemonFC; They know that it will fire up all of the people who PARTICULARLY don't like Trump and it will cost them seats in Congress even if he wins the election.
16:03 DaemonFC; They would much rather wait out a second term of Biden and obstruct (since they don't particularly want to do much anyway and don't need to thanks to the Supreme Court) than have Trump come in and create a complete mess for their members in Congress.
16:03 DaemonFC; Trump doesn't play the long game. He just does whatever he feels like doing at the moment.
16:04 DaemonFC; If the Republicans lose the Senate, then they can't appoint Trump's judges. If they can't appoint Trump's judges, they end up with a term-limited president and a bunch of court vacancies for the next one, and it becomes a huge question mark for the next presidential election, in 2028.
16:19 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/pfizer-study-says-updated-covid-boosters-rev-up-protection/
16:19 TR Bot; Pfizer study says updated COVID boosters rev up protection | WGN-TV
16:19 DaemonFC; MOAR PFIZERSPAM.
16:19 DaemonFC; They talk about antibody levels and never talk about how many people it prevents from getting COVID.
16:19 DaemonFC; The truth is they don't know or care to know.
16:19 DaemonFC; It's selling. That's all they need.
16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
16:20 DaemonFC; As to the antibody level, nobody is independently testing this.
16:20 DaemonFC; The FDA is just going by whatever Pfizer says.
16:26 AdmFubar1; https://www.rawstory.com/musk-owned-twitter-sued-for-violating-ca-and-federal-law-with-mass-layoffs/
16:26 TR Bot; Musk-owned Twitter sued for violating CA and federal law with mass layoffs - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism
16:43 DaemonFC; https://www.axios.com/2022/11/04/qanon-government-secret-cabal-poll
16:43 TR Bot; 44% of voters see "secret cabal" in stunning QAnon poll
16:43 MinceR; regularly?
16:43 *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
16:44 MinceR; "yes, i just visited my secret cabal representative yesterday."
16:45 DaemonFC; That's not surprising. Nobody has control over what the government does, which makes court cases like People of Illinois vs. Ryan Farmer all the more ridiculous.
16:45 DaemonFC; It wouldn't sound as good if it was the truth.
16:45 MinceR; megacorporations do have control over it, collectively
16:45 DaemonFC; A partisan hack at the State's Attorney's office and some cops that were bored that night v. Ryan Farmer.
16:48 DaemonFC; https://www.axios.com/2022/11/03/david-depape-pelosi-suspect-canada-immigration
16:48 TR Bot; Suspect in Paul Pelosi attack was in U.S. illegally, DHS says
16:50 scientes; DaemonFC were they in her house illegally?
16:50 scientes; maybe she is the illegal?
16:50 scientes; I like the sound of that better
16:50 DaemonFC; Illegal Canadian immigrant.
16:50 *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@ubimf8izmv24i.irc) has joined #techrights
16:50 scientes; DaemonFC, you mean His Majesty King Charles III?
16:51 DaemonFC; Twitter closed and locked its offices and is sending emails to say whether people still have a job or not.
16:51 scientes; "Illegal Canadian Immigrant"
16:51 DaemonFC; To prevent sabotage.
16:52 DaemonFC; https://www.axios.com/2022/11/04/tech-layoff-surge-twitter-elon-musk
16:52 TR Bot; Tech workers brace for massive wintertime layoff surge
16:54 DaemonFC; I don't think I should include copies of our FOID cards. There's nothing wrong or illegal about having those, but you'd get some activist immigration officer who would go out of their way to deny the case.
16:54 DaemonFC; It's not people with FOID cards who can't be trusted to have weapons, for the most part. When there's a gun crime in Illinois, 99.6% of the time, they don't have a FOID card.
16:55 DaemonFC; And the other 0.4%....Well, some people get a FOID card because there's no legal reason the state can deny it because they haven't committed any disqualifying crimes yet.
16:56 DaemonFC; You can't take away Constitutional rights of the overwhelming majority because one person out there will do something wrong. And that person would figure out how to get a gun without a FOID card most likely, or just result to stabbing people or hitting them with a car.
16:56 DaemonFC; Even in states where there are no FOID cards, cases are working their way through the system right now where mass stabbings or a guy ran over a parade with his car.
16:56 DaemonFC; Including Wisconsin, where the guy ran over people at a parade with his car. Killed a bunch of kids, even.
16:57 DaemonFC; Pretty much anything can be an instrument of murder or suicide if a person is determined to do that.
16:57 DaemonFC; I don't know why politicians get to demonize legal gun owners who have jumped through all of these bureaucratic hoops that the criminals just ignore.
16:57 DaemonFC; You see it every day in Chicago. No FOID card. Illegal full auto conversion.
16:58 DaemonFC; I mean, then they get on the news and these out-of-touch politicians want them to check your Social Media before issuing FOID cards.
16:58 DaemonFC; When the people who are committing the most serious and numerous gun-related crimes don't even apply for the FOID card.
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 14.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 49.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 133.21
5 PM, November 4
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
17:33 XRevan86; https://youtu.be/x7sKQcsDW98 cc: scientes
17:33 TR Bot; https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=x7sKQcsDW98
17:33 TR Bot; invidious.flokinet.to | Live 2022 - Invidious
17:34 XRevan86; The re-makes continue.
17:36 scientes; I don't know this song
17:37 scientes; DaemonFC, you mean I need a laminated piece of cardboard to commit bloody murder?
17:37 *scientes laminated my birth certificate
17:37 scientes; you know, because I need proof I was born
17:38 scientes; I could have been, god-forbid, delivered by C-section
17:38 scientes; (or something even scarier)
17:39 *EightBallz snorts coke off scientes ass
17:40 AdmFubar1; you came to being by storks
17:41 scientes; AdmFubar1, the propoganda in Tbilisi metro said so
17:41 DaemonFC; Now the state admits it's completely lost control of the "illegal gun" issue.
17:41 scientes; it was comparing babies to garbage
17:41 DaemonFC; Because of 3d printed guns that were never in any "FOID" system along with all the ones that had the serial numbers removed and sold out of the trunk of someone's cars.
17:41 scientes; complaining that if you are the salt of the earth, why the fuck do you want babies?
17:42 scientes; Because the empire doesn't want people to have children
17:42 scientes; just State of Israel IVI
17:42 scientes; *IVF
17:42 DaemonFC; It passed a law to make 3d printed guns illegal in Illinois. They were already illegal under federal law, and they were also illegal in Illinois because they were undetectable on metal detectors and had no serial number to begin with and were not tracked by the FOID system.
17:42 DaemonFC; So it's all theater.
17:42 EightBallz; babies are trash
17:42 DaemonFC; They made something illegal that was already illegal.
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17:54 DaemonFC; OK, I found the last document I needed by tearing up my bedroom.
17:54 DaemonFC; With 30 minutes to spare.
17:55 DaemonFC; You file something with USCIS and a portal to Hell opens up and spews "receipts" at you.
17:55 DaemonFC; Until you need to add on to your house to store the receipts.
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18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:20 *Techrights-sec is now known as ts2
18:20 *schestowitz[TR] back
18:20 techuser; wb
18:20 schestowitz[TR]; thanks!
18:20 techuser; yw
18:20 AdmFubar1; front
18:21 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC> https://wgntv.com/news/twitter-layoffs-begin-a-week-after-elon-musks-takeover/
18:21 TR Bot; Twitter layoffs begin a week after Elon Musks takeover | WGN-TV
18:22 schestowitz[TR]; i have 951k twweets there
18:22 schestowitz[TR]; but hearing about twitter collapsing is music to my ears
18:22 schestowitz[TR]; anyway I have copies of all the stuff posted there
18:22 schestowitz[TR]; 6GB zip file
18:24 MinceR; full dump of shitter?
18:24 TR News; Steven Vaughan-Nichols mistaking a FORUM for "most popular programming site"
18:28 TR News; Skip Windows 11 go straight to GNU Linux Debian https://dwaves.de/2022/11/04/skip-windows-11-go-straight-to-gnu-linux-debian/
18:28 TR Bot; Skip Windows 11 go straight to GNU Linux Debian | dwaves.de
18:28 MinceR; y tho
18:28 MinceR; that's something like debian 7
18:28 MinceR; pretty damn old
18:28 schestowitz[TR]; :)
18:30 TR News; How to Create Better Linux Terminal GIFs With VHS https://www.makeuseof.com/create-linux-terminal-gifs-with-vhs/ Source: Make Use Of | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.makeuseof.com/create-linux-terminal-gifs-with-vhs/
18:30 TR Bot; How to Create Better Linux Terminal GIFs With VHS
18:37 AdmFubar1; https://www.maketecheasier.com/musks-twitter-deal-users-mastodon/
18:37 TR Bot; After Musk Takes Over Twitter, Users Rush to Mastodon - Make Tech Easier
18:40 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/today_s_howtos.3.gmi
18:40 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
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18:40 schestowitz[TR]; AdmFubar1: imho, they should exist social control media in general
18:41 schestowitz[TR]; no good in it
18:41 schestowitz[TR]; not anymore
18:41 schestowitz[TR]; if ever
18:42 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], anything older than debian 10 is no longer supported
18:43 *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@gvrgv6p9zx2qy.irc) has joined #techrights
18:43 starstreak; hey reptilian_thrills
18:44 reptilian_thrills; as always, i think mjg frames these tpm/similar technologies in a way that downplays the downsides (when there are downsides)
18:44 reptilian_thrills; and downplays the effect they have on average users (vs firmware hackers)
18:44 AdmFubar1; https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-twitter-2658599914/
18:44 TR Bot; Elon Musk complains about Twitter advertisers and gets fact checked by his own platform - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism
18:44 reptilian_thrills; but heres why i like his input on them
18:44 TR News; (NEW): NuTyX 22.10.0 available with cards 2.6.1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/NuTyX_22_10_0_available_with_cards_2_6_1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/NuTyX_22_10_0_available_with_cards_2_6_1.gmi
18:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines NuTyX 22.10.0 available with cards 2.6.1
18:45 reptilian_thrills; i think other people react to them in the same way i react-- which is to assume the worst
18:45 reptilian_thrills; hi starstreak
18:45 reptilian_thrills; assuming the worst is probably what we should do. its not the best way to be accurate or knowledgeable of these things though
18:45 reptilian_thrills; at some point its nice to have a better level of detail. i dont rely on mjg for this :) but its a place to start
18:46 reptilian_thrills; in my experience, by the time leah or ariadne (just examples) weigh in, theyre more honest (or realistic, if we are being nice to mjg) about the downsides
18:47 reptilian_thrills; i think leah is the most sceptical (while still knowing a lot) and ariadne a bit less (while obviously knowing a hell of a lot) and mjg is the least sceptical (YAY! WE CAN USE THIS TO DO COOL STUFF!)
18:47 Ariadne; i think we are all wanting the same outcomes, mjg included tbh
18:47 reptilian_thrills; i cannot trust mjg, but i can at least IMAGINE a scenario where he really cares about user freedom.
18:47 starstreak; reptilian_thrills, i watched ancient aliens episode "The Reptilian Agenda" and it had plenty of stuff about reptilians but nothing on their agenda
18:47 reptilian_thrills; he clearly at least believes he does.
18:47 reptilian_thrills; but nothing on their agend <- obviously the episode was intercepted and watered down... THATS the agenda!
18:48 Ariadne; the question is how to get the right balance between user freedom and lack of friction given what we have to work with
18:48 reptilian_thrills; /me is joking (about the agenda)
18:48 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: yes, next year I might do a clean install, maybe not bookworm
18:48 reptilian_thrills; the question is how to get the right balance between user freedom and lack of friction given what we have to work with <- a slippery slope to be sure
18:48 schestowitz[TR]; seeing how debian behaves on a number of issues
18:48 reptilian_thrills; my first priority is to have all the freedom i can
18:48 reptilian_thrills; most people at least, are going to try to find that balance
18:48 Ariadne; although i think UEFI secure boot is overengineered for the task of ensuring the boot chain is not tampered with
18:49 reptilian_thrills; is overengineered <- i think overengineered (security) is underengineered
18:49 reptilian_thrills; the more complex the solution, the more holes it could have
18:49 reptilian_thrills; this is an oversimplification to be sure
18:49 Ariadne; and the motive for that is clearly driven by capitalism
18:49 TR News; "This year, KDE organised its annual community conference, Akademy 2022, in Barcelona. Akademy is the annual world summit of KDE, one of the largest Free Software communities in the world. It is a free, non-commercial event organized by the KDE Community." https://www.qt.io/blog/akademy-2022-highlights
18:49 TR Bot; Akademy 2022 Highlights
18:49 reptilian_thrills; but people who scatter a million solutions around thinking theyre more secure... are typical industry types
18:49 reptilian_thrills; it seems more like theatre to me
18:50 schestowitz[TR]; it is
18:50 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], i noticed one of your boxes uses the 3.x series kernel lol
18:50 schestowitz[TR]; you assumer untampered systems are OK
18:50 reptilian_thrills; one of the things thats sets me a little bit apart from other tech industry sceptics is i know the difference between myself and someone who actually understands this shit.
18:50 schestowitz[TR]; risks heirarchy:
18:50 schestowitz[TR]; hardware (usually made in china). #hierarchy
18:50 Ariadne; there are basically two common secure boot models, the UEFI one, which is terrible, and the one that u-boot, BootX, etc use. the latter is quite simple and equally effective
18:50 reptilian_thrills; there are basically two common secure boot models, the UEFI one, which is terrible, and the one that u-boot, BootX, etc use. the latter is quite simple and equally effective <- sweet
18:50 schestowitz[TR]; do we know what it does at all? who audits the produced pieces?
18:51 reptilian_thrills; too bad the industry adores shit so much
18:51 schestowitz[TR]; then, further up oin sofwtare, NSA Windows, do I care if microsoft says the cchecksum is "correct"?
18:51 Ariadne; on u-boot/BootX/etc, you just have the hash of the kernel stored in secure memory, and the bootloader verifies it, and it is simple, and it works
18:51 schestowitz[TR]; maybe I'd rather uss MODIFIED Windows
18:51 reptilian_thrills; who audits <- the answer to that is simple, security researchers audit it
18:51 schestowitz[TR]; with back doors REMOVED
18:51 reptilian_thrills; security researchers <- some are good, some are crap, some are in between
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; maybe are posers
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; sadly
18:52 Ariadne; (the ARM macs use BootX, you can have a fully attested boot chain all the way to Linux userspace on them, and in fact this is the default that you get when using Asahi)
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; they act like the y are confident and all
18:52 reptilian_thrills; yes roy, all researchers are posers
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; many are yes
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; and they use the term
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; glorified terms are warning signs
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; timbl just called himself "develop"
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; I like that
18:52 reptilian_thrills; glorified terms are warning signs <- industry loves those
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; he was a computer scientist
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; *developer
18:53 reptilian_thrills; he was a computer scienti <- he sure was
18:53 MinceR; qui audit ipsos auditores
18:53 reptilian_thrills; qui audit ipsos auditores <- no u
18:53 Ariadne; another problem is that a lot of these proposed boot security solutions assume rather strange threat models
18:53 MinceR; abcdefghijklmnopqrst vwxyz
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; his job in cern was explained in a speech some eyars ago
18:53 reptilian_thrills; /me knows enough pig latin to know what the question was
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; managing the objects there
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; www helped him unify access to linked objects
18:53 MinceR; it's not pig latin, it's closer to canis latinicus
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; from the physicists etc/.
18:53 reptilian_thrills; either way i knew what you meant
18:54 schestowitz[TR]; https://techrights.org/2009/12/02/timbl-on-swpats-eu-centralisation/
18:54 TR Bot; Tim Berners-Lee: Software Patents Are a Terrible Thing | Techrights
18:54 schestowitz[TR]; 2009
18:54 schestowitz[TR]; before he did DRM
18:54 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2013/10/07/tim-berners-lee-drm/
18:54 TR Bot; Tim Berners-Lee Loses a Lot of Credibility Around the Web | Techrights
18:54 schestowitz[TR]; https://techrights.org/2013/10/14/tim-berners-lee-criticised-by-fans/
18:54 TR Bot; Tim Berners-Lee is Wrong, DRM in HTML is a Very Big Deal | Techrights
18:54 reptilian_thrills; me as an amazon customer (before 2006): the worst thing theyll do with drm is put it in books
18:55 reptilian_thrills; me as a former amazon customer (since 2006): food and medicine
18:55 schestowitz[TR]; his talk: https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/26/open-data/
18:55 TR Bot; Blog Archive UK Government Should Get Back to Releasing COVID-19 Data Every Day, Not (Barely) Every Week
18:55 reptilian_thrills; food and medicine <- me before i was a former keurig customer
18:56 reptilian_thrills; yes theyre stupid things. but very jetsony. but stupid.
18:56 reptilian_thrills; they still need a robot arm to pick up the cup. but theres a reason you dont see many cats in the jetsons, they would fuck up the whole show
18:57 reptilian_thrills; "jane, the cats attacking my toothbrush again!"
18:57 MinceR; they could use robots to do the attacking for them
18:58 reptilian_thrills; youd need a robot to shoo the cat away from your toothbrush with a laser
18:58 MinceR; and then the cat uses a robot to protect the other robot from being shooed away
18:58 reptilian_thrills; MUST KILL TOOTHBRUSH ROBOT
18:58 reptilian_thrills; *red dot*
18:59 reptilian_thrills; MUST KILL RED DOT!
18:59 reptilian_thrills; theres a reason you dont see many cats in call of duty
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.16 k/sec., IPFS upstream 65.20 average k/sec., average swarm size 131.06
7 PM, November 4
19:00 TR News; (NEW): GNU lightning 2.1.4 release http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/GNU_lightning_2_1_4_release.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/GNU_lightning_2_1_4_release.gmi
19:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNU lightning 2.1.4 release
19:01 MinceR; because cats realize that call of duty is boring?
19:02 reptilian_thrills; because they would pounce on the lasers
19:03 reptilian_thrills; because cats realize that call of duty is boring <- they prefer to play with the box the game used to be shipped in
19:04 reptilian_thrills; someone offered to mount lasers on the fsf once
19:04 reptilian_thrills; the fsf replied that they werent allowed to put things on the roof
19:04 reptilian_thrills; i bet they wish theyd done it anyway
19:04 MinceR; even that box is more fun than most tFPS-es
19:05 MinceR; with their glacier-pace movement, limited maps, limited weapons and disappearing crosshairs
19:06 reptilian_thrills; /me pictures mincer batting it around with his controller
19:06 reptilian_thrills; thats not the cute part. its the cat ears that make it work
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19:17 MinceR; https://apina.biz/192334.png?mode=sfw
19:17 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/192334.png
19:18 TR News; Derivation: Motion Comic Ep.3 by Morevna https://www.davidrevoy.com/article939/derivation-peppercarrot-motion-comic-episode-3-by-morevna
19:18 TR Bot; Derivation: Motion Comic Ep.3 by Morevna - David Revoy
19:19 TR News; Elizabeth Mattijsen: Sequencing for the win! https://dev.to/lizmat/dont-fear-the-grepper-6-4i
19:19 TR Bot; Sequencing for the win! - DEV Community
19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
19:24 TR News; Greenwashing INSTEAD of producing LOCALLY. Clean ocean shipping https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/03/clean-ocean-shipping/ "Our world relies on ocean shipping to function, but container ships are too dirty, in several ways"
19:25 TR Bot; Clean ocean shipping | Stop at Zona-M
19:26 TR News; Paid-for puff piece/ads (kind of spammy) by TuxCare instead of actual article: "This article is written and sponsored by TuxCare". HACKERNEWS: pay us money and we'll repost your marketing fodder. WWW becoming webspam. https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/your-ot-is-no-longer-isolated-act-fast.html
19:26 TR Bot; Your OT Is No Longer Isolated: Act Fast to Protect It
19:27 TR News; What % of the "content" on the WWW will be webspam in 2023? In 2025? We're seeing it overrun by total garbage. What's left of the media hardly talks about this serious issue.
19:28 TR News; tuesday ONS numbers for England and Wales expected to show 20% increase in deaths while media intentionally keeps quote about it
19:29 starstreak; https://boxofcables.dev/cbl-delridge-is-dead-long-live-cbl-mariner/
19:29 TR Bot; Microsoft's CBL-Delridge is 404, long live CBL-Mariner
19:30 starstreak; Microsoft Linucks
19:30 schestowitz[TR]; *keep quiet about it
19:31 starstreak; i wonder if phoronix has done a benchmark of it
19:31 schestowitz[TR]; he does ads for it
19:31 schestowitz[TR]; a;lmosy nobopdy mentions it except him
19:31 MinceR; attack surface btw
19:31 schestowitz[TR]; and the same for clearlinux
19:31 schestowitz[TR]; shilling x86/intel
19:32 MinceR; "the biggest yet!"
19:32 schestowitz[TR]; windows NTW
19:32 schestowitz[TR]; attack surface so big NSA got its hand-oin back
19:32 starstreak; i liked clearlinux but it was mostly flatpak based because it didnt have much for packages itself
19:32 schestowitz[TR]; it's domed
19:33 schestowitz[TR]; like other intel goes at linux
19:33 schestowitz[TR]; they had many
19:33 starstreak; i would use clearlinux for a server if my provider had the option
19:33 schestowitz[TR]; many forfgot their names
19:33 schestowitz[TR]; inclduing me
19:33 schestowitz[TR]; despite mentioning it hundreds of time
19:33 schestowitz[TR]; I need to check
19:33 schestowitz[TR]; HP also had a Linux distto at one poiint
19:33 schestowitz[TR]; forgot its name
19:33 schestowitz[TR]; around 2008
19:34 schestowitz[TR]; linaro had a predecessor
19:34 schestowitz[TR]; 5-letter one
19:34 schestowitz[TR]; lin something
19:34 schestowitz[TR]; not LiMO
19:34 starstreak; HPUX?
19:34 schestowitz[TR]; not Tizen
19:34 schestowitz[TR]; or Nokia's Maemo
19:34 schestowitz[TR]; Nokia has many distros
19:34 schestowitz[TR]; no, not UNIX
19:35 schestowitz[TR]; you would sttruggle to find it now
19:35 schestowitz[TR]; Techrights Daily Links would have fdozen of archives links about it
19:35 schestowitz[TR]; *archived
19:35 schestowitz[TR]; they canned it at the eend
19:35 starstreak; HPLIP?
19:35 schestowitz[TR]; likely some secret OEM agreement with MSFT
19:35 schestowitz[TR]; like Samsung with DeX
19:35 schestowitz[TR]; HPLIP is not a distro
19:36 schestowitz[TR]; intel also has xzephyr
19:36 schestowitz[TR]; complete failure
19:36 schestowitz[TR]; they shalved/canned it
19:36 schestowitz[TR]; in LF
19:36 schestowitz[TR]; to get rid of maintenance of itr
19:36 schestowitz[TR]; like OOo in ASF
19:36 starstreak; i cant find what you're talking about
19:36 schestowitz[TR]; they use LF to pretend it is vendor-neutral
19:37 schestowitz[TR]; and hope some other people will "garden" the code for them
19:37 schestowitz[TR]; that's what LF does
19:37 schestowitz[TR]; it finds "slaves"
19:37 schestowitz[TR]; people who help corporations
19:37 schestowitz[TR]; thinking they help "Linux"
19:37 schestowitz[TR]; R&D for zero salary
19:37 schestowitz[TR]; even negative salary (energy bills)
19:37 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: the HP one? Let me search
19:38 starstreak; yeah my keywords aren't helping me find anything
19:38 starstreak; its finding consumer electronics
19:39 schestowitz[TR]; remember gOS?
19:39 starstreak; no
19:39 schestowitz[TR]; JingOS is now dead
19:39 schestowitz[TR]; as jingpad failed
19:39 schestowitz[TR]; fired all the staff
19:39 schestowitz[TR]; sold the remaining tablets on the cheap
19:39 starstreak; i stick with the mainstream stuff
19:41 schestowitz[TR]; can't find it
19:41 starstreak; hp has too much bullshit out there
19:43 starstreak; oh wow this kid has a tail
19:46 TR News; "Intel processors support additional software hint called EPB ("Energy Performance Bias") to guide the hardware heuristic of power management features to favor increasing dynamic performance or conserve energy consumption." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip.git/commit/?id=7420ae3bb977b46eab082f4964641f3ddc98ebaf
19:46 TR Bot; kernel/git/tip/tip.git - Unnamed repository; edit this file 'description' to name the repository.
19:58 TR News; "colleague reported some issues in the OpenShift troubleshooting and diagnosis scripts at OpenShift-checks." https://iranzo.io/blog/2022/11/03/openshifts-oc-debug-and-parallel-execution/
19:58 TR Bot; OpenShift's oc debug and parallel execution | Pablo Iranzo Gmez blog
8 PM, November 4
20:00 TR News; Microsoft TCO: "This website is also surfaced as a top result in Google searches, effectively acting as a gateway to redirect users looking for the app to the .NET-based fraudulent installer." https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/researchers-detail-new-malware-campaign.html
20:00 TR Bot; Researchers Detail New Malware Campaign Targeting Indian Government Employees
20:02 TR News; The World Runs On Linux (NOT Windows!) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mZXx5oErnIc | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/mZXx5oErnIc
20:03 TR Bot; The World Runs On Linux (NOT Windows!) - Invidious
20:04 TR News; Mastodon explodes, GIMP scam, KDE tiling: Linux + Open source news - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KOLnaF_NPh8 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/KOLnaF_NPh8
20:04 TR Bot; Mastodon explodes, GIMP scam, KDE tiling: Linux + Open source news - Invidious
20:06 TR News; Up soon: Espionage company Google Now Analyzing Your Child's Voice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9eStX-MeGk | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/C9eStX-MeGk Google is censoring him: http://techrights.org/2022/09/25/google-censoring-linux/ http://techrights.org/2022/11/02/latest-gulag-casualty/
20:06 TR Bot; https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=C9eStX-MeGk
20:06 TR Bot; not resolve host: invidious.osi.kr; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=C9eStX-MeGk )
20:06 TR Bot; YouTube (Alphabet Gulag) Keeps Censoring Videos About Free Software and GNU/Linux | Techrights
20:06 TR Bot; Google is Banning GNU/Linux Videos and GNU/Linux Channels | Techrights
20:06 starstreak; http://cruow7yrawyispbnt6ts6hfpxqviv54u2vqkukpflt5w2dhgzwwzyrqd.onion/Books/Edwin-Black-IBM-and-the-Holocaust.pdf
20:06 TR Bot; not resolve host: cruow7yrawyispbnt6ts6hfpxqviv54u2vqkukpflt5w2dhgzwwzyrqd.onion; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://cruow7yrawyispbnt6ts6hfpxqviv54u2vqkukpflt5w2dhgzwwzyrqd.onion/Books/Edwin-Black-IBM-and-the-Holocaust.pdf )
20:06 TR News; lolcat goes with everything - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=SPI6ZG6YCoI | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/SPI6ZG6YCoI
20:06 TR Bot; lolcat goes with everything - Invidious
20:06 starstreak; IBM and the Holocaust!
20:07 starstreak; why can't TechrightsBot-tr resolve .onion ?
20:07 starstreak; it always throws up that nasty little error
20:07 reptilian_thrills; what error
20:07 starstreak; Could not resolve host: cruow7yrawyispbnt6ts6hfpxqviv54u2vqkukpflt5w2dhgzwwzyrqd.onion; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://cruow7yrawyispbnt6ts6hfpxqviv54u2vqkukpflt5w2dhgzwwzyrqd.onion/Books/Edwin-Black-IBM-and-the-Holocaust.pdf )
20:08 MinceR; probably because it isn't running over torify or whatever
20:08 TR News; #KeepItOn via U.S. Summit for Democracy Technology Cohort - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/u-s-summit-for-democracy-internet-shutdowns/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/u-s-summit-for-democracy-internet-shutdowns/
20:09 TR Bot; #KeepItOn via U.S. Summit for Democracy Technology Cohort - Access Now
20:09 MinceR; .onion domain names can only be resolved via Tor
20:09 schestowitz[TR]; there's likely an onion address coming for new techrights
20:09 starstreak; yeah i was thinking he should have more tor stuff
20:09 schestowitz[TR]; but still work in progress
20:09 starstreak; i got the definitive book on IBM and the Holocaust
20:10 schestowitz[TR]; he has a longer book
20:10 schestowitz[TR]; war on the weak
20:10 starstreak; i have that too
20:10 schestowitz[TR]; I shared excepts and screenshots
20:10 schestowitz[TR]; on the IBM partsd
20:10 starstreak; http://cruow7yrawyispbnt6ts6hfpxqviv54u2vqkukpflt5w2dhgzwwzyrqd.onion/Books/Edwin-Black-War-Against-the-Weak.pdf
20:10 TR Bot; not resolve host: cruow7yrawyispbnt6ts6hfpxqviv54u2vqkukpflt5w2dhgzwwzyrqd.onion; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://cruow7yrawyispbnt6ts6hfpxqviv54u2vqkukpflt5w2dhgzwwzyrqd.onion/Books/Edwin-Black-War-Against-the-Weak.pdf )
20:10 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
20:10 starstreak; also .epub
20:11 starstreak; 1.2GB of conspiracy books
20:11 schestowitz[TR]; he worried his book would be used by anti-abortionaists
20:11 schestowitz[TR]; *nists
20:11 TR News; Hate speech spikes on Musks watch; another internet blackout in Myanmar; Egypts paranoia on show at COP27 - Coda Story https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/myanmar-internet-blackout-egypt-cop27/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.codastory.com/newsletters/myanmar-internet-blackout-egypt-cop27/
20:11 TR Bot; Hate speech spikes on Musks watch; another internet blackout in Myanmar; Egypts paranoia on show at COP27 - Coda Story
20:14 reptilian_thrills; <starstreak> i got the definitive book on IBM and the Holocaust
20:14 reptilian_thrills; <3
20:15 starstreak; now i run freebsd
20:15 starstreak; btw
20:16 MinceR; which fixes nothing
20:16 MinceR; btw
20:16 TR News; Why COVID-19 May Predate October 2019 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/04/italy-september-2019/
20:16 starstreak; llvm instead of ibm gcc
20:16 TR Bot; Blog Archive Why COVID-19 May Predate October 2019
20:16 MinceR; crApple llvm instead of ibm gcc, you mean
20:16 reptilian_thrills; <starstreak> llvm instead of ibm gcc <- microsoft or ibm :/
20:16 starstreak; at least apple didn't kill 6 million jews
20:16 reptilian_thrills; crApple <- them too?
20:16 reptilian_thrills; at least apple didn't kill 6 million jews <- to be fair, gcc was jewish originally
20:17 reptilian_thrills; and gcc is more forkable
20:17 reptilian_thrills; theres really no winner in this race
20:17 reptilian_thrills; /me thinks maybe race isnt the best word here
20:17 reptilian_thrills; llvm is a blob but theo likes it (i dont)
20:17 reptilian_thrills; gcc is forkable but probably wont be forked, and its controlled by ibm
20:17 reptilian_thrills; so imo, its ibm or microsoft
20:18 reptilian_thrills; i hope someday good people will fork gcc
20:18 starstreak; llvm is apple
20:18 reptilian_thrills; and stick it to ibm
20:18 reptilian_thrills; i dont know the apple connection
20:18 reptilian_thrills; i dont doubt it but i dont know it
20:18 starstreak; fair enough
20:19 reptilian_thrills; i just havent heard anything about it
20:19 reptilian_thrills; im curious
20:19 reptilian_thrills; mincer knows
20:19 reptilian_thrills; he often knows these things before i do
20:19 reptilian_thrills; like systemd, he was 3 years ahead of me at least
20:19 starstreak; The nazi's had pieces of flair that they made the jews wear.
20:19 reptilian_thrills; The nazi's had pieces of flair that they made the jews wear <- heh
20:19 reptilian_thrills; its not untrue
20:19 starstreak; lol ever see office space?
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:21 reptilian_thrills; /me gives starstreak a red stapler
20:21 starstreak; i actually have a purple swingline stapler i got at walmart for $5
20:24 starstreak; reptilian_thrills, https://i.imgur.com/99ccIeU.png
20:24 starstreak; i got his name
20:24 starstreak; he doesnt seem to have any books available on torrents
20:26 reptilian_thrills; hahahahaha
20:27 starstreak; i checked on https://torrents-csv.ml
20:27 TR Bot; Torrents.csv
20:27 reptilian_thrills; "meester garibaldi! my gooood frieeeeend!"
20:28 starstreak; apparently he was murdered :/
20:28 reptilian_thrills; what?
20:29 reptilian_thrills; /me isnt saying it was aliens
20:29 starstreak; https://chronicle.su/news/giorgio-tsoukalos-dead-at-age-34/
20:29 TR Bot; Giorgio Tsoukalos Dead at age 34 The Internet Chronicle
20:29 starstreak; i bet it was the CIA
20:29 reptilian_thrills; wow
20:29 reptilian_thrills; when was this
20:29 starstreak; March 24, 2012
20:29 TR News; (NEW): Videos: GNU/Linux Runs the World, Linux in the Ham Shack, Distribution with XFCE Desktop, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Videos_GNU_Linux_Runs_the_World_Linux_in_the_Ham_Shack_Distribu.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Videos_GNU_Linux_Runs_the_World_Linux_in_the_Ham_Shack_Distribu.gmi
20:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos: GNU/Linux Runs the World, Linux in the Ham Shack, Distribution with XFCE Desktop, and More
20:30 reptilian_thrills; wow
20:30 reptilian_thrills; where was he living at the time
20:30 starstreak; Athens
20:30 reptilian_thrills; what country
20:30 reptilian_thrills; oh
20:30 reptilian_thrills; yeah greek name
20:30 starstreak; He knew too much
20:30 reptilian_thrills; but i didnt know if he was actually in greece
20:30 starstreak; Cause of death was listed as Multiple grievous wounds, He was 34.
20:31 starstreak; No foul play was suspected in his death. Tsoukalos is survived by seven ex-wives and twelve children.
20:31 starstreak; check this out
20:31 starstreak; The Tsoukalos Estate, a multi-trillion dollar international religion, is to be turned over to his next of kin.
20:32 starstreak; thats where the money is at
20:32 starstreak; making a religion
20:32 reptilian_thrills; The Tsoukalos Estate, a multi-trillion dollar <- fuck, what?
20:32 reptilian_thrills; no
20:32 reptilian_thrills; thats a typo
20:32 starstreak; is it?
20:32 reptilian_thrills; thats where the money is at <- making a religion <- l ron hubbar
20:32 starstreak; apparently David Icke makes 2 million a year selling his wares
20:32 reptilian_thrills; 2 million exactly
20:32 reptilian_thrills; its not multi trillion
20:32 reptilian_thrills; thats a typo
20:33 starstreak; its probably billion
20:33 starstreak; If David icke makes 2 million a year, i wonder how much infowars makes
20:36 reptilian_thrills; #gayfrogwashing
20:36 reptilian_thrills; washing them (in tap water) only makes it worse!
20:37 starstreak; he got caught with transgender porn on his phone
20:37 TR News; (NEW): Collaboras Contributions to the LibreOffice Conference 2022 and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Collabora_s_Contributions_to_the_LibreOffice_Conference_2022_an.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Collabora_s_Contributions_to_the_LibreOffice_Conference_2022_an.gmi
20:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines Collaboras Contributions to the LibreOffice Conference 2022 and More
20:38 TR News; (NEW): FreeBSD Journal http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/FreeBSD_Journal.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/FreeBSD_Journal.gmi
20:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines FreeBSD Journal
20:38 reptilian_thrills; he got caught with transgender porn on his phone <- i cant blame him, that stuff is hot
20:38 reptilian_thrills; some rapper got caught with that on his phone recently
20:38 reptilian_thrills; he was like yeah, so what, its hot
20:38 starstreak; lol yeah but it makes him a hypocrite
20:39 reptilian_thrills; but it makes him a hypocrite <- ive been saying that some transphobes are like closet gays that start "gay cure" camps
20:39 reptilian_thrills; hehehe "camps"
20:39 reptilian_thrills; camp
20:39 reptilian_thrills; jk rowling totally wants to be a man
20:40 reptilian_thrills; so she finds allies to her inward-facing transphobia in terfs
20:40 reptilian_thrills; this isnt a joke, i really believe it
20:40 reptilian_thrills; you dont become a vocal transphobe at a cost to your career, while using a gender-neutral name for one of the most famous books ever written
20:40 starstreak; yeah thats why she hides her female name inside of jk
20:40 reptilian_thrills; only to choose a new pen name thats the name of a MAN ffs
20:40 reptilian_thrills; shes an egg
20:41 reptilian_thrills; one of the worst on earth
20:41 *psydruid just found out that Microducks Visual Terrorist 2022 doesn't even trust internal network shares anymore
20:41 starstreak; lol
20:42 starstreak; a snarky name for everything in this channel
20:42 starstreak; is Microducks Visual Terrorist 2022 = vscode ?
20:42 psydruid; its big brother
20:43 psydruid; the guy I'm working with told me to see if the code we're working on would compile with that
20:43 psydruid; because I've been using gcc throughout the project
20:43 psydruid; something weird is happening with this laptop, but I think it's just overheating or something
20:47 reptilian_thrills; i prefer women, but a non-hateful joe k. rowling would be more beautiful than a terf joanne
20:47 MinceR; terf wars
20:48 reptilian_thrills; <MinceR> terf wars <- long long ago on a tumblerblog far far away....
20:48 reptilian_thrills; leia: sorry luke, im your sister
20:49 reptilian_thrills; luke: aww, crap
20:49 MinceR; (audio) https://apina.biz/192278.mp4?mode=sfw
20:49 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/192278.mp4
20:49 reptilian_thrills; leia: but i was your brother originally
20:49 MinceR; :)
20:49 reptilian_thrills; i think mark hamil likes spaceballs better than the original
20:50 MinceR; :)
20:50 starstreak; spaceballs!
20:51 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9K4N328OI8
20:51 TR Bot; https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=B9K4N328OI8
20:51 TR Bot; not resolve host: invidious.osi.kr; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=B9K4N328OI8 )
20:52 TR News; (NEW): Security, Back Doors, and Grifting http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Security_Back_Doors_and_Grifting.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Security_Back_Doors_and_Grifting.gmi
20:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security, Back Doors, and Grifting
20:53 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Programming_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Programming_Leftovers.2.gmi
20:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
20:53 TR News; (NEW): Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi
20:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers
20:53 TR News; (NEW): Hardware: Star Labs, MeLE, Raspberry Pi, SparkFun http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Hardware_Star_Labs_MeLE_Raspberry_Pi_SparkFun.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Hardware_Star_Labs_MeLE_Raspberry_Pi_SparkFun.gmi
20:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines Hardware: Star Labs, MeLE, Raspberry Pi, SparkFun
20:54 reptilian_thrills; /me tries to convince roy that spaceballs was a furry movie by mel brooks
20:54 reptilian_thrills; "im a mog!"
20:54 reptilian_thrills; "im my own best friend"
20:55 TR News; Organizing applying to grants, conferences, calls, etc gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~lettuce/applying.gmi
20:55 reptilian_thrills; good thing he was played by john candy. if he was played by marilyn manson everyone would know he could get one leg behind his
20:55 reptilian_thrills; anyway
20:55 TR News; Friday link roundup: November 4, 2022 gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/gemlog/2022-11-04-links.gmi
20:55 TR News; New Contact Method: Post gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202211/20221104-new-contact-method-post.gmi
20:55 reptilian_thrills; "im my own best friend, you know?"
20:57 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/today_s_leftovers.gmi
20:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.98 k/sec., IPFS upstream 74.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 122.06
20:59 MinceR; (audio:music) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZR3N0VxloQ
20:59 TR Bot; https://y.com.sb/watch?v=SZR3N0VxloQ
20:59 TR Bot; y.com.sb | DOOM - I Sawed the Demons (E2M1) [METAL COVER] - Invidious
20:59 AdmFubar1; https://www.wired.com/story/soccer-world-cup-biometric-surveillance/
20:59 TR Bot; Fans, You're Being Watched | WIRED
20:59 schestowitz[TR]; oh, that's back?
9 PM, November 4
21:00 TR News; Links 04/11/2022: NuTyX 22.10.0 and Akademy 2022 Highlights | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/04/akademy-2022-highlights/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/04/akademy-2022-highlights/
21:00 TR Bot; Links 04/11/2022: NuTyX 22.10.0 and Akademy 2022 Highlights | Techrights
21:00 AdmFubar1; yeah it is back... can't understand why they had it last year too!
21:00 schestowitz[TR]; here is the thing
21:00 schestowitz[TR]; [we call it football here just to be clear]
21:01 schestowitz[TR]; here, football tickets are hard to get aanonymously
21:01 schestowitz[TR]; so they assign a ticket to a name
21:01 schestowitz[TR]; with address, phone # etc.
21:01 schestowitz[TR]; if you get a ticket off scalpers you can get around it
21:01 AdmFubar1; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-03/apple-pauses-hiring-for-roles-outside-research-and-development
21:01 schestowitz[TR]; may vary across leagues and stadium
21:01 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
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21:01 schestowitz[TR]; but it's awful
21:01 schestowitz[TR]; in the theeatre too
21:01 schestowitz[TR]; they say they need that in case of cancellation
21:01 schestowitz[TR]; perfect excuse
21:02 schestowitz[TR]; and they make database of who watches what plays
21:02 schestowitz[TR]; apple claimed to be doing great BUT
21:02 schestowitz[TR]; CUIT production
21:02 schestowitz[TR]; REDUCES staffing
21:02 schestowitz[TR]; hiring freeze means people leave
21:02 schestowitz[TR]; but nobody replaces them
21:02 reptilian_thrills; gafam is dying
21:02 reptilian_thrills; <starstreak> im watching Austin Powers <- which one
21:02 schestowitz[TR]; applle was always about lies and BS
21:03 starstreak; reptilian_thrills, the first one
21:03 MinceR; lol @ "research" and "development" roles inside crApple
21:03 schestowitz[TR]; reptilian_thrills: GAFAM is funded by military bills
21:03 schestowitz[TR]; in part
21:03 schestowitz[TR]; like NDAA
21:03 MinceR; is that "research" for code and designs they can steal and "development" of copies?
21:03 schestowitz[TR]; iow, the taxpayers helps them not die
21:03 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> applle was always about lies and BS <- i knew that as a kid
21:03 MinceR; maybe also "development" of advertisements
21:03 schestowitz[TR]; even if they make losses without bailours
21:03 schestowitz[TR]; *bailouts
21:03 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> reptilian_thrills: GAFAM is funded by military bills <- <schestowitz[TR]> in part < - <schestowitz[TR]> like NDAA <- i know
21:03 schestowitz[TR]; I have a video about this coming
21:04 schestowitz[TR]; shortly
21:04 schestowitz[TR]; 4 videos to record
21:04 schestowitz[TR]; bbl
21:04 schestowitz[TR]; clue vv
21:04 reptilian_thrills; the minicomputer industry worked with werner von braun ffs
21:04 schestowitz[TR]; (NEW): Security, Back Doors, and Grifting http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Security_Back_Doors_and_Grifting.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Security_Back_Doors_and_Grifting.gmi
21:04 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security, Back Doors, and Grifting
21:04 MinceR; "that's not my department", says wernher von braun
21:04 reptilian_thrills; from the nazi aeronautics and space administration
21:05 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TjDEsGZLbio
21:05 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/vi/QEJ9HrZq7Ro/mqdefault.jpg
21:05 TR Bot; Tom Lehrer - Wernher von Braun - with intro - Invidious
21:05 schestowitz[TR]; nazi schmazi
21:05 reptilian_thrills; <MinceR> "that's not my department", says wernher von braun <- i have a picture of him with someone from digital or cdc or one of those
21:05 reptilian_thrills; from a book
21:05 reptilian_thrills; paper
21:05 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TjDEsGZLbio
21:08 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QEJ9HrZq7Ro
21:08 TR Bot; Tom Lehrer - Wernher von Braun - Invidious
21:10 TR News; thimble
21:10 TR News; The Giant Squid of Thimble Tickle https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/thimble-tickle-giant-squid
21:10 TR Bot; The Giant Squid of Thimble Tickle Division No. 8, Newfoundland and Labrador - Atlas Obscura
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21:13 reptilian_thrills; Wernher Von Braun 'The best computer is a man, and it's the only one that can be mass-produced by unskilled labor.' The best computer is a man, and it's the only one that can be mass-produced by unskilled labor.
21:13 reptilian_thrills; mass-produced by unskilled labor <- well, he would know wouldnt he
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10 PM, November 4
22:17 schestowitz[TR]; recoprded 3 videos
22:18 schestowitz[TR]; left 2-3 more for tomorrow morning
22:18 schestowitz[TR]; mostly whisteblower material (EPO)
22:21 starstreak; i got some good material too
22:21 starstreak; UFO whistleblowers: http://cruow7yrawyispbnt6ts6hfpxqviv54u2vqkukpflt5w2dhgzwwzyrqd.onion/Books/Steven-Greer-Disclosure-Military-and-Government-Witnesses-Reveal-the-Greatest-Secrets-in-Modern-History.pdf
22:21 TR Bot; not resolve host: cruow7yrawyispbnt6ts6hfpxqviv54u2vqkukpflt5w2dhgzwwzyrqd.onion; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://cruow7yrawyispbnt6ts6hfpxqviv54u2vqkukpflt5w2dhgzwwzyrqd.onion/Books/Steven-Greer-Disclosure-Military-and-Government-Witnesses-Reveal-the-Greatest-Secrets-in-Modern-History.pdf )
22:24 starstreak; 1.2GB of Occult, Magick and Conspiracy Books
22:24 starstreak; I *might* add Aleister Crowley
22:31 schestowitz[TR]; why do you post this here?
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; it just discredits us
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; put that in suitable channels
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; the fantasy stuf
22:35 EightBallz; nice collection
22:40 starstreak; thanks, i don't believe in everything thats there
22:40 starstreak; i just started hoarding conspiracy books, i get dopamine hits when Transmission dings
22:46 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> it just discredits us <- theres a long history of joking about occult stuff in free software (and unix)
22:46 reptilian_thrills; including stallman enchanting a server with his recorder
22:46 reptilian_thrills; the levitating gnu
22:46 reptilian_thrills; not to mention that esr is into occult stuff, even though hes both open source and a nutjob politically
22:48 starstreak; I don't believe everything David Icke says, I just want the reptilian information.
22:48 reptilian_thrills; why the reptilian information
22:49 starstreak; because thats 1/2 of the people running the world
22:49 reptilian_thrills; ah
22:49 starstreak; the other half is neanderthals
22:49 schestowitz[TR]; either way, flooding this channel withj nutcases and BS of nutcases is not helpful
22:49 schestowitz[TR]; and not on topic, either
22:49 reptilian_thrills; theres a long history of joking about occult stuff in free software (and unix) <- which is why it wont discredit anyone by association
22:49 schestowitz[TR]; so please stop that..
22:49 schestowitz[TR]; we're not against people being nuts
22:49 reptilian_thrills; because it can simply be dismissed as a joke
22:49 starstreak; DaemonFC is a lot worse with his transphobia and racism
22:49 schestowitz[TR]; but do that in another channel
22:50 starstreak; oh yeah
22:50 schestowitz[TR]; daemonfc was told repeatedly to use other channels
22:50 reptilian_thrills; the internet used to be a fun place for (harmless) weirdoes
22:50 reptilian_thrills; granted not all the weirdoes are harmless now
22:50 starstreak; anyone who wants to talk about conspiracy theories, i have #conspiracytheory
22:50 reptilian_thrills; but most still are
22:51 reptilian_thrills; everyone used to be a hacker or phreaker or warez dealer :)
22:51 reptilian_thrills; counterculture stuff
22:51 reptilian_thrills; is central to internet lore and culture
22:52 reptilian_thrills; you found it in abundance in the early days of free software, it was good fun
22:52 reptilian_thrills; now its all 4sirius!
22:52 starstreak; sirius!
22:52 reptilian_thrills; the internet is a place of business
22:52 reptilian_thrills; sirius business
22:52 starstreak; why so sirius
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22:52 reptilian_thrills; are you global? this is a global shop for global people
22:52 reptilian_thrills; well have no trouble here!
22:52 reptilian_thrills; glOOOObal
22:53 starstreak; you're starting to sound like a globalist
22:53 reptilian_thrills; more like a globetrotter (not a furry thing)
22:53 reptilian_thrills; actually its a riff of league of gentlemen, british comedy
22:53 reptilian_thrills; "are you local?"
22:54 reptilian_thrills; /me just watched a documentary called sirius
22:54 starstreak; reptilian_thrills, that doesn't belong here, please take it to #conspiracytheory
22:54 reptilian_thrills; yes maam! *does a half rimmer salute*
22:54 reptilian_thrills; (if you dont know that ref ill explain it there)
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11 PM, November 4
23:23 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
23:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
23:34 TR News; devops.com is run by trolls, idiots and literal spammers who did the same to containerjournal. Now a headline saying "Debian Goes Proprietary"
23:37 TR News; Intel ships hobbled hardware. Ask for a refeund. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/11/intel-arc-gpu-firmware-updates-appear-to-require-an-intel-cpu-at-least-for-now/
23:37 TR Bot; Intel says that both Intel and AMD CPUs can update Arc GPU firmware [Updated] | Ars Technica
23:37 reptilian_thrills; schestowitz[TR] how much of ibm and the holocaust did you read
23:38 reptilian_thrills; this isnt a loaded question, im not here to challenge anything youve said about it
23:38 TR News; (NEW): Voting machines using Linux to be tested in NH http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Voting_machines_using_Linux_to_be_tested_in_NH.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/Voting_machines_using_Linux_to_be_tested_in_NH.gmi
23:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines Voting machines using Linux to be tested in NH
23:39 reptilian_thrills; if you didnt read a lot i recommend reading the whole thing though
23:39 reptilian_thrills; if you dont care to read the whole thing thoroughly, i recommend thumbing through it at length
23:39 reptilian_thrills; if youve already done that, i recommend doing it again
23:39 reptilian_thrills; but not because of something you got wrong
23:39 TR News; Well, it is already generated by Microsoft and the NSA because it uses GitHub https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/10/27/ghostwriter-open-source-project-management-platform-pentesters-video/
23:39 TR Bot; Ghostwriter: Open-source project management platform for pentesters - Help Net Security
23:39 reptilian_thrills; not for purposes of correction
23:45 TR News; Mozilla's money comes from Google, i.e. mostly from militarism and mass surveillance (or espionage). Nothing ethical about it, this is just a whitewashing incubator thinly presented as "ethics" https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/04/mozilla_ventures/
23:45 TR Bot; Mozilla Foundation launches ethical venture capital fund The Register
23:49 TR News; (NEW): GNU Taler v0.9.0 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/GNU_Taler_v0_9_0_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/04/GNU_Taler_v0_9_0_released.gmi
23:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNU Taler v0.9.0 released
23:50 TR News; guilt tripping gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/random21
23:50 TR News; "I have been on Mastodon about 2 years I think and I really love it. Although I have a twitter account I may have only logged in 5 times in the past year or so" gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~lettuce/mastodon.gmi
23:54 TR News; Bloatware nags https://ubuntu.com//blog/snaps-better-refresh-notifications a lot is PROPRIETARY
23:54 TR Bot; & better refresh notifications | Ubuntu
23:56 TR News; "Covid antibodies found in stored blood samples" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/04/italy-september-2019/
23:57 TR Bot; Blog Archive Why COVID-19 May Predate October 2019