IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 27, 2023

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beginning of new day, September 27

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3 AM, September 27

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03:13 admfubar; https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/airlines-banks-mileage-programs/675374/

↺ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/airlines-banks-mileage-programs/675374/

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9 AM, September 27

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10 AM, September 27

10:56 schestowitz; Re: IBM redundancy payment policies

10:56 schestowitz; > Hi Roy,

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > Have you received anything more specific about severance payments and

10:56 schestowitz; > lump sums?

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > - what IBM has been paying out?

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > - what Red Hat has been paying out and whether it is identical to IBM?

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > - the guy who got $250,000 to do nothing?

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > - any other unusual cases?

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > Regards,

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > From 2023:

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/24/ibm_red_hat_layoffs/

↺ https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/24/ibm_red_hat_layoffs/

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > One employee was paid $250,000 to do nothing, they hoped he would quit

10:56 schestowitz; > and find another job instead of demanding a severance payment.

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > https://fortune.com/2023/01/25/ibm-layoffs-3900-kyndryl-watson-health/

↺ https://fortune.com/2023/01/25/ibm-layoffs-3900-kyndryl-watson-health/

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > Budget of $300 million for 3,900 redundancies

10:56 schestowitz; > (average $76000 per person, although some of the people only had very

10:56 schestowitz; > short employment or lower skilled jobs)

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > The article mentions $10.5 billion free cashflow

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1mj1y6du

↺ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1mj1y6du

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > Mentions gag orders for receiving payments above the statutory expectation.

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > From 2009 redundancies:

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > https://www.computerworld.com/article/2523233/ibm-plans-lump-sum-severance-for-those-laid-off.html

↺ https://www.computerworld.com/article/2523233/ibm-plans-lump-sum-severance-for-those-laid-off.html

10:56 schestowitz; >

10:56 schestowitz; > Lump sums: 2 week's pay for every 1 year of service

10:56 schestowitz; In many companies they still use HR tricks to claim you're not even entitled to anything. IBM has a large army of lawyers, so if you disagree with them, prepare to pay lawyers for a long time and maybe you'll even become lucky.

10:56 schestowitz; Workers' protections have not been good in recent years, maybe decades. NDAs are used to deny people access to precedents.

1 PM, September 27

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7 PM, September 27

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10 PM, September 27

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