IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, January 22, 2024

beginning of new day, January 22

00:03 DaemonFC; The fact that they are only touching it to fix CVEs at this point actually makes me feel better about it.

00:03 MinceR; they're less likely to fuck it up, eh? :>

00:09 DaemonFC; Yeah.

00:09 DaemonFC; Although some of the CVE fixes say they might break something that they don't think anyone is using.

00:09 DaemonFC; So much for we need Wayland because we don't want to brick core X11.

00:10 DaemonFC; Now they just admit that the CVE fixes may break core X11 and they don't care.

00:11 DaemonFC; > Elim Garak

00:11 DaemonFC; > Kubuntu is just KDE on the Ubuntu base. Everything else about the OS is exactly the same as if you'd installed it under Ubuntu.

00:11 DaemonFC; > So if Snaps really are self-contained and have everything they need, and don't care about the rest of your system, why complain that the user is using KDE, on what is otherwise Ubuntu?

00:12 DaemonFC; > That tells me right there that they aren't as universal as Canonical says they are.

00:12 DaemonFC; > enigma9o7

00:12 DaemonFC; > Sounds like a bug. Likely there is a bug report, take a look.

00:12 DaemonFC; > I've never tried using snaps myself. I do use flatpak for a few things.

00:12 DaemonFC; > Coincidentally enough, for example, element stopped working on my Bodhi 5.1 machine (old version) cuz as of two versions ago, it now requires GLIBC 2.28 and I only have 2.27

00:12 DaemonFC; > Also I use flatpak for nheko nightly, and also testing gnome-nightly stuff.

00:12 DaemonFC; > * Elim Garak laughs maniacally

00:12 DaemonFC; > enigma9o7

00:12 DaemonFC; > So for element, I am still using an older version for the past couple weeks, but likely will move to flatpak for it.

00:12 DaemonFC; > Elim Garak

00:12 DaemonFC; > What do you expect for something "shared" between the GNU project and Red Hat?

00:12 DaemonFC; > In the way of compatibility after entire MONTHS I mean?

00:12 DaemonFC; > :D

00:12 DaemonFC; ---

00:12 DaemonFC; MinceR: ^

00:12 MinceR; 22 010955 <@DaemonFC> So much for we need Wayland because we don't want to brick core X11.

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00:12 MinceR; we want to brick core X11 because no one wants to use wayland

00:13 MinceR; you know, "free software".

00:13 MinceR; though i guess they always preferred to call it "open-source software"

00:17 DaemonFC; If they're going to start breaking core X11, then why couldn't they have just pulled the weeds and bumped X?

00:18 DaemonFC; I don't understand this fascination with not breaking "historical" compatibility.

00:18 DaemonFC; Like something from 20+ years ago.

00:18 MinceR; \_()_/

00:34 DaemonFC; https://www.foxnews.com/us/2-oklahoma-accused-toppling-country-radio-station-tower-steal-100-copper

00:34 TR Bot; 2 in Oklahoma accused of toppling country radio station tower to steal $100 in copper | Fox News

00:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz: Robust economy.

00:34 DaemonFC; Jobs for everyone.

00:37 DaemonFC; "Radio tower copper theft suspect Candice Logan, seen photographed with a car containing what appears to be copper in the trunk. (Facebook/Terry Park)"

00:37 DaemonFC; And after stealing the copper, Phase 2 of our diabolical plan is to photograph ourselves smiling with a stolen pile of copper in the back of a van and post it to Facebook!

00:37 DaemonFC; :)

00:38 DaemonFC; MinceR: ^

00:40 MinceR; :)

00:41 Sompi; the jobs are in prison

00:42 DaemonFC; https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/tech-ceo-falls-his-death-front-horrified-employees-company-party-india

00:42 TR Bot; Tech CEO falls to his death in front of horrified employees at company party in India | Fox Business

00:44 DaemonFC; https://www.foxnews.com/health/ozempic-wegovy-overdose-calls-spiked-experts-say-heres-know-dangerous-doses

00:44 TR Bot; Ozempic and Wegovy overdose calls have spiked, experts say what to know about dangerous doses | Fox News

00:44 MinceR; fox noise again

00:44 DaemonFC; MinceR: "Just keep turning the dial until you inject yourself with a month's worth at once.

00:44 DaemonFC; :)

00:46 DaemonFC; This must be the only country where people will use a $5,000 drug that makes them vomit for over a year after they stop taking it and all the weight comes back instead of not throwing as many cookies and three liter bottles of Coke into the shopping cart.

00:47 DaemonFC; MinceR: I got a huge bean bag from Walmart finally.

00:47 DaemonFC; The cats discovered it.

00:47 MinceR; :3

00:47 MinceR; i didn't realize cats were into bean bags

00:49 DaemonFC; It's so big that it's big enough for all of us.

00:49 DaemonFC; I bought a queen size blanket to put over it and they lay on it and watch movies with me.

00:50 DaemonFC; MinceR: I could use this as a bed. It's 7 feet long and I'm 6' 4".

00:51 DaemonFC; Mandy asked what I would do if one of us has COVID and we need to be in separate rooms. I said, "Well, if one person in the house gets COVID, everyone does."

00:51 DaemonFC; "Plus, you can sleep on the bean bag if you have to. It is foam-filled."

00:51 DaemonFC; I wouldn't want to do it all the time, but you could do it for a few days.

00:52 DaemonFC; https://www.foxnews.com/us/infant-girl-abandoned-philadelphia-walmart-suspected-shoplifters-police

00:52 TR Bot; Infant girl abandoned at Philadelphia Walmart by suspected shoplifters: police | Fox News

00:52 DaemonFC; Meanwhile, in "Only heterosexuals can be trusted to raise children."

00:53 DaemonFC; MinceR: Child endangerment and neglect charges are worse than shoplifting.

00:53 DaemonFC; Might as well face the music when the police catch the shoplifting...

00:54 MinceR; more bullshit from fox noise

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00:55 DaemonFC; > iflyroads

00:55 DaemonFC; > 2 hours ago

00:55 DaemonFC; > Adopt an abandoned infant of known criminals from Philly? You're exposing yourself to the unknown risks of defective genes, likely drug and/or alcohol exposure/addiction, genetic diseases, penicillin resistant diseases, mental defects, etc. Could be an extremely expensive and taxing decision. Grow your own or get a dog.

00:55 DaemonFC; > Reply

00:55 DaemonFC; > 54

00:55 DaemonFC; > 15

00:55 DaemonFC; > Share

00:55 DaemonFC; > boltactionconservative074

00:55 DaemonFC; > 1 hour ago

00:55 DaemonFC; > My poor sister has one of those regrets. She should've taken a good hard look at the birth parents. Seventeen years of headaches and heartache.

00:55 DaemonFC; > Reply

00:55 DaemonFC; > 7

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00:55 DaemonFC; > 1

00:55 DaemonFC; > Share

00:56 DaemonFC; > lifeinthenolane

00:56 DaemonFC; > 48 minutes ago

00:56 DaemonFC; > Replying to boltactionconservative074

00:56 DaemonFC; > I got a friend who adopted a baby. His son is now 19 and doesn't go to school or work. He just hangs out in his bedroom and does drugs. Whenever they have tried to do something about it. Their adoptive son threatens to commit suicide. Never adopt unless you know what both parents are like.

00:56 DaemonFC; ----

00:56 DaemonFC; This is how I'd imagine someone would end up after adopting Brandon Lobster's abandoned children if they take after the sperm donor. (the third comment)

00:57 DaemonFC; I'm not sure what makes these stories about adoption, if true, that much different than having your own children.

00:57 DaemonFC; Most people end up disappointed with their children, and the world is a terrible place now to try to raise them in.

00:58 DaemonFC; It's not like it was when my parents were 20 and everything was super easy.

00:58 DaemonFC; Go to the DMV they hand you a driver's license.

00:58 DaemonFC; Go fill out some job applications, and most of them ask if you want the job the same week.

00:58 DaemonFC; Get a mortgage on a house that now costs $100,000, and it was $17,000.

00:59 DaemonFC; Have some children, and the company that you could expect to work at for many decades that had a pension program gave you vouchers for the daycare expenses.

1 AM, January 22

01:00 DaemonFC; Want to go to college? Drop by the HR office. They'll pay for that too. That's why my dad has three college degrees and two of them didn't even cost him anything.

01:01 DaemonFC; Need to go to the doctor? Don't worry. The company that pays 100% of your health insurance premiums got you a plan where you'll only pay about $200-300 that year out of your own pocket . (And if you're my dad, still complain when the mother takes the kids to the doctor.)

01:01 DaemonFC; They just came of age in a time where there was no rampant difficulty with anything.

01:02 DaemonFC; Not one where there aren't any jobs and the president is inviting two million illegal aliens to crash on your couch and take yours.

01:02 DaemonFC; While inflation is 8% and you haven't had a raise in three years.

01:03 DaemonFC; This Venezuela thing is uncannily similar to Castro dumping his prisoners and public masturbators on Florida, and Jimmy Carter taking them all in.

01:03 DaemonFC; They've been voting for Republicans ever since they got their papers.

01:04 DaemonFC; The human nature is to take anything you can get and slam the door shut behind you.

01:04 DaemonFC; It's been the entire motivating factor of the Boomer generation.

01:04 DaemonFC; Which is why the entire country is on fire now.

01:05 DaemonFC; Not content with taking anything they can get from welfare programs and then shutting them down and overseas slave labor while hollowing out the nation....now they load themselves up on debt they have no plan to pay and then die.

01:06 DaemonFC; MinceR: I already have a reply if anyone contacts me about my mom or dad's debts after that happens.

01:06 MinceR; :>

01:06 DaemonFC; "Shouldn't have given them the loans, dumbasses!" and slam the phone.

01:08 DaemonFC; https://www.foxnews.com/sports/transgender-golfer-hailey-davidson-pushes-back-misinformed-hated-outrage-win-womens-tour

01:08 TR Bot; Transgender golfer Hailey Davidson pushes back on 'misinformed hated' amid outrage over win on women's tour | Fox News

01:08 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNUgMjnOvkM

01:08 TR Bot; https://invidious.tiekoetter.com/watch?v=MNUgMjnOvkM

01:09 TR Bot; api.invidious.io | Invidious Instances

01:15 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2024/01/21/1225764834/california-governor-sacks-effort-to-limit-tackle-football-for-kids

01:15 TR Bot; California governor sacks effort to limit tackle football for kids : NPR

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01:33 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D1168.jpg

01:33 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D818.jpg

01:34 TR News; Never Been Happier to Drop a Grand gemini://rawtext.club/~winter/gemlog/2024/1-21.gmi

01:35 TR News; "Of course this species is going to boil the ocean - as opposed to taking meaningful action - en route to literally boiling the ocean...." gemini://tilde.club/~oldernow/2024-01-21-17-00-41.gmi

01:36 TR News; Which English Bible Translation Should I Use? gemini://mlot.smol.pub/whichenbibletranslation

01:37 TR News; "Related but much different than mage knights[1], a mage smith[2] is a mage who imbues items with magical power, creates items using magic, and recharges steam engines. This is a dangerous profession since artifacts are known to react poorly to feedback[3] and frequently explode when not properly shielded." gemini://fedran.com/news/2024/01/21/on-mage-smiths/

01:37 TR News; Nobody cares about independent digital infrastructure gemini://njms.ca/gemlog/2024-01-21.gmi

01:38 TR News; "Have you ever been editing a file in emacs where there a specific lines that should not be wrapped, but you are using auto-fill-mode and they accidently get wrapped? The emacs variable fill-nobreak-predicate is your friend!" gemini://consp.org/blog/2024/2024-01-21-dont-want-a-line-to-break-in-emacs-even-in-auto-fill-mode.gmi

01:39 TR News; Day 20 - On Mage Knights gemini://fedran.com/news/2024/01/20/on-mage-knights/

01:50 TR News; Techrights New Interview With Richard Stallman in the 'Exploring Antinatalism' Podcast (Very Personal Topics Covered) http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/New_Interview_With_Richard_Stallman_in_the_Exploring_Antinatali.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/New_Interview_With_Richard_Stallman_in_the_Exploring_Antinatali.gmi

01:50 TR Bot; Techrights New Interview With Richard Stallman in the 'Exploring Antinatalism' Podcast (Very Personal Topics Covered)

01:51 TR News; European Patent Office leaks to be released every day this coming week in Techrights

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2 AM, January 22

02:12 TR News; Techrights Militants Who Attacked Techrights by Doing Horrible and Illegal Things Try to Delete Themselves From the Web http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Militants_Who_Attacked_Techrights_by_Doing_Horrible_and_Illegal.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Militants_Who_Attacked_Techrights_by_Doing_Horrible_and_Illegal.gmi

02:12 TR Bot; Techrights Militants Who Attacked Techrights by Doing Horrible and Illegal Things Try to Delete Themselves From the Web

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02:53 *Topic for #techrights is: Techrights.org IRC discussions @ localhost | Channel #techrights for http://techrights.org [logged online] :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell for related discussions. For scrollback see http://techrights.org/irc-channel/

02:53 *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~roy@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc at Fri Jun 18 16:51:47 2021

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02:55 DaemonFC; https://www.marketwatch.com/story/people-are-afraid-to-commit-to-cds-but-the-time-to-lock-in-high-interest-rates-is-running-out-11e25af7

02:55 TR Bot; rates are still high. Why doesnt anyone want to commit to a CD? - MarketWatch

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02:56 DaemonFC; I cant get anyone to lock in rates at 2 or 3 or 4 years, says Keil, who is based in Milwaukee. His argument is that 5% is a good rate that we havent seen in years, and the bond market is indicating that itll be lower in six months or so. The bond market is smarter than you and me, he says.

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02:58 TR News; Techrights Welcome to the New Techrights http://news.techrights.org/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/

02:58 TR Bot; Techrights Welcome to the New Techrights

02:58 TR News; Techrights AV Linux 23.1 'Enlightened' Released! http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/20/AV_Linux_23_1_Enlightened_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/20/AV_Linux_23_1_Enlightened_Released.gmi

02:58 TR Bot; Techrights AV Linux 23.1 'Enlightened' Released!

02:58 TR News; Techrights Games: Palworld, VCMI, and More http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/20/Games_Palworld_VCMI_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/20/Games_Palworld_VCMI_and_More.gmi

02:58 TR Bot; Techrights Games: Palworld, VCMI, and More

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02:58 TR News; Techrights Gemini Links 20/01/2024: Capsule as EPUB and Complicating Code http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/20/Gemini_Links_20_01_2024_Capsule_as_EPUB_and_Complicating_Code.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/20/Gemini_Links_20_01_2024_Capsule_as_EPUB_and_Complicating_Code.gmi

02:58 TR Bot; Techrights Gemini Links 20/01/2024: Capsule as EPUB and Complicating Code

02:58 TR News; Techrights IRC Proceedings: Friday, January 19, 2024 http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/20/IRC_Proceedings_Friday_January_19_2024.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/20/IRC_Proceedings_Friday_January_19_2024.gmi

02:58 TR Bot; Techrights IRC Proceedings: Friday, January 19, 2024

02:58 TR News; Techrights Tracking the Demise of 'Linux' News Sites (and of News Sites in General) http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/20/Lack_of_news.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/20/Lack_of_news.gmi

02:58 TR Bot; Techrights Tracking the Demise of 'Linux' News Sites (and of News Sites in General)

02:58 TR News; (NEW): Linux Kernel 6.7 Officially Released, This Is Whats New http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/07/Linux_Kernel_6_7_Officially_Released_This_Is_What_s_New.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/07/Linux_Kernel_6_7_Officially_Released_This_Is_What_s_New.gmi

02:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Kernel 6.7 Officially Released, This Is Whats New

02:58 TR News; (NEW): easyVoid version 6.0 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/20/easyVoid_version_6_0_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/20/easyVoid_version_6_0_released.gmi

02:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines easyVoid version 6.0 released

02:58 TR News; (NEW): Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/20/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/20/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi

02:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers

02:58 TR News; (NEW): Kernel: Don't Break Userspace and Don't Help Murderers Publish Articles http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/20/Kernel_Don_t_Break_Userspace_and_Don_t_Help_Murderers_Publish_A.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/20/Kernel_Don_t_Break_Userspace_and_Don_t_Help_Murderers_Publish_A.gmi

02:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kernel: Don't Break Userspace and Don't Help Murderers Publish Articles

02:58 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/20/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/20/Programming_Leftovers.gmi

02:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers

02:58 TR News; (NEW): SourceHut network outage post-mortem http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/20/SourceHut_network_outage_post_mortem.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/20/SourceHut_network_outage_post_mortem.gmi

02:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines SourceHut network outage post-mortem

02:58 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/20/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/20/today_s_howtos.1.gmi

02:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

02:58 TR News; (NEW): 10 Best GNOME-based Linux Distributions To Check Out http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/21/10_Best_GNOME_based_Linux_Distributions_To_Check_Out.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/21/10_Best_GNOME_based_Linux_Distributions_To_Check_Out.gmi

02:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines 10 Best GNOME-based Linux Distributions To Check Out

02:58 TR News; (NEW): 7 Best Linux Server Distributions for Virtualization http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/21/7_Best_Linux_Server_Distributions_for_Virtualization.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/21/7_Best_Linux_Server_Distributions_for_Virtualization.gmi

02:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines 7 Best Linux Server Distributions for Virtualization

02:59 schestowitz[TR]; router maintenance

02:59 schestowitz[TR]; sorry about that

3 AM, January 22

03:00 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-210124.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-210124.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-210124.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-210124.txt

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03:01 schestowitz[TR]; Mon 02:12:14 TR NEWS Techrights Militants Who Attacked Techrights by Doing Horrible and Illegal Things Try to Delete Themselves From the Web http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Militants_Who_Attacked_Techrights_by_Doing_Horrible_and_Illegal.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Militants_Who_Attacked_Techrights_by_Doing_Horrible_and_Illegal.gmi

03:01 schestowitz[TR]; Mon 02:52:11 DaemonFC schestowitz: Lobster Sign?

03:01 TR Bot; Techrights Militants Who Attacked Techrights by Doing Horrible and Illegal Things Try to Delete Themselves From the Web

03:01 schestowitz[TR]; no

03:01 schestowitz[TR]; this one was network work

03:01 *DaemonFC gives voice to admfubar alextee arkanian

03:01 *DaemonFC gives voice to buzzert_ ciphrCat

03:01 *DaemonFC gives voice to fury999i|

03:01 *DaemonFC gives voice to gnulinuxuser hinbody isak

03:01 *DaemonFC gives voice to j jacobk_ jrmu-

03:01 *DaemonFC gives voice to kermit KindOne_ liberty_box_

03:01 *DaemonFC gives voice to libertybox libertybox_ libertybox__

03:01 *DaemonFC gives voice to libredev logbackup MinceR

03:01 *DaemonFC gives voice to openJ

03:01 *DaemonFC gives voice to prurigro rianne

03:02 *DaemonFC gives voice to roy__ roy___ schestowitz[TR]

03:02 *DaemonFC gives voice to someloaf Sompi svenn

03:02 *DaemonFC gives voice to techrights-news techrights-sec2

03:02 *DaemonFC gives voice to tessier_

03:02 *DaemonFC gives voice to thiel3 u-amarsh04 wael__

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03:02 *DaemonFC gives voice to wallacer XFaCE ZedHedTe1

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03:03 DaemonFC; "These offers typically also come with a lot of caveats. More often these days, that top rate is promotional, says Mary Grace Roske, head of marketing for CD Valet, and the CD reverts to a lower rate at some interval noted deep in the fine print. Many CDs these days are also callable, which means that the bank can pay out the balance at a designated time if market conditions change, and the investor would be stuck having to reinvest at lower rates. "

03:03 DaemonFC; So you put money there thinking you'll get that rate for 5-10 years and then the bank pays everything out and you don't make any more interest at that rate, and you're like "What the fuck!?" because of course you didn't read that.

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03:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: The Harvey Debacle?

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; no

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: want to proofread?

03:16 schestowitz[TR]; that would speed things up

03:17 DaemonFC; Yeah, let me brush my teeth and get some water.

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; this will come in about 7 parts

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; not counting kaniini stuff

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; but the current host

03:23 *ZedHedTe1 is now known as ZedHedTed

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03:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Let me guess. Lobster and the survivability thing again.

03:28 DaemonFC; Whenever you don't get what you want, threaten suicide.

03:28 DaemonFC; So lame.

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03:29 DaemonFC; It takes advantage of a very real problem (a huge spike in the number of people actually committing suicide today because the world is so fucked up) and globs onto it.

03:30 DaemonFC; But with absolutely no intent on doing it. Just as a way to get people to pay attention and crudely manipulate.

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03:30 DaemonFC; A sane person with any sort of conscience wouldn't do it and would feel horribly ashamed if they did.

03:31 DaemonFC; Only some sort of sociopath/psychopath would ever go there.

03:31 DaemonFC; And I've been to the point where I actually wanted to do it and I didn't tell anyone at the time.

03:32 DaemonFC; People who actually do it don't talk and talk about it because then people would stop them from doing it if they decided to do it, and they know it, which is why very nearly every person who is suicidal just says nothing and they're gone one day.

03:33 DaemonFC; When you actually are that depressed you don't say anything, because at a moment's notice you could decide to walk in front of a train or something and nobody can stop you if they don't know you're thinking about it.

03:34 DaemonFC; I wish it weren't happening.

03:34 DaemonFC; There's a lot of ways that the government could lower the suicide rate, but it doesn't really care.

03:34 DaemonFC; The more people that do it, the less pressure there is on the government to alleviate whatever problem drove them to do it.

03:35 DaemonFC; There could be reforms that reduced income inequality, or made family or criminal court more fair, or increased job security.

03:35 DaemonFC; They don't care. They don't want to do anything or they would have.

03:35 TR News; Techrights Lozza, Who Had Already Been Arrested, Tried to Take Down the Site That Spoke About Lozza's Crimes (Committed Against That Site Too!) http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Lozza_Who_Had_Already_Been_Arrested_Tried_to_Take_Down_the_Site.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Lozza_Who_Had_Already_Been_Arrested_Tried_to_Take_Down_the_Site.gmi

03:35 TR Bot; Techrights Lozza, Who Had Already Been Arrested, Tried to Take Down the Site That Spoke About Lozza's Crimes (Committed Against That Site Too!)

03:39 DaemonFC; "This is not the first time Lozza the militant resorts to invalid DMCA experiments; this goes back 14 years ago. False DMCA invocation, in its own right, carries a liability. Need it be pointed our that DMCA, being a US thing, is hardly applicable to a British company and Canadian person?"

03:39 DaemonFC; The DMCA is a universal law something something human rights.

03:39 MinceR; lol

03:39 schestowitz[TR]; it's US, but...

03:40 schestowitz[TR]; they try to extend that

03:40 schestowitz[TR]; in practice, however, they cannot compel every country to follow US law

03:40 schestowitz[TR]; and either way, this iiis invalid takedown request

03:40 schestowitz[TR]; it's not filed correctly

03:40 schestowitz[TR]; and obvious fair use

03:40 schestowitz[TR]; any idiot can see it

03:40 schestowitz[TR]; u need to correct myself

03:41 schestowitz[TR]; not 7 parts

03:41 schestowitz[TR]; i tidied up the drafts a bit

03:41 schestowitz[TR]; it'll be more llike 9 for the gulagboy and lozza takedown attempts

03:41 schestowitz[TR]; not counting the kaniini attempts, which involved lying to her

03:41 schestowitz[TR]; she took the bair

03:41 schestowitz[TR]; from the lobster

03:42 schestowitz[TR]; *bait

03:42 schestowitz[TR]; biab

03:42 schestowitz[TR]; doing links nowww

03:42 DaemonFC; Roy's dumpster Lobsta

03:42 schestowitz[TR]; this above series will probably be 25-35 more parts

03:42 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. till autumn

03:42 schestowitz[TR]; they dug their own graves, PR-wise

03:43 DaemonFC; Lobsta called me a transphobe while making homophobic and anti-Asian attacks and accusing me of "things involving an animal" after I mentioned it was time to give my cat her pill.

03:44 DaemonFC; This is...unbecoming of a person who wants a moral high ground.

03:51 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2024/01/21/1225925053/billions-of-cicadas-will-buzz-this-spring-as-two-broods-emerge-at-the-same-time

03:51 TR Bot; Billions of cicadas to emerge this spring as two broods arrive at the same time : NPR

03:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I don't doubt that the Fed will probably relent and cut rates 7-8 times in the next 24 months.

03:54 DaemonFC; The go-to is to cut interest rates, and it's like that for a lot of reasons.

03:54 DaemonFC; The economy is nothing but bubbles and the government has a lot of debt.

03:55 DaemonFC; All of the most powerful players want low interest rates because it cheapens the cost of carrying a lot of debt.

03:55 DaemonFC; So while it is "unwise" to let up so quickly, they probably will do it.

03:55 DaemonFC; Giving up on inflation control.

03:56 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> The economy is nothing but bubbles and the government has a lot of debt.

03:56 schestowitz[TR]; yes, they try to buy time

03:56 schestowitz[TR]; while attacking the challengers

03:56 DaemonFC; If they're talking about cutting rates this fast it means they see the layoff data, especially in the "tech" crap and they realize that they have months to do something before it falls over entirely.

03:57 DaemonFC; This is truly depressing. Interest rates could be higher yet if we still had an economy based on making things and mining things and building things.

03:57 DaemonFC; Not Bill Sez, Elon Sez, Meme Tokens, etc.

03:58 DaemonFC; An economy that can't handle higher interest rates is a very sick economy. There should be absolutely no need for near-zero rates persistently.

03:59 DaemonFC; How can 78% of your GDP be consumer spending and not production?

03:59 DaemonFC; Like how long do you just "make money out of nothing and have China give you things for it"?

03:59 DaemonFC; I'm surprised it took more than 20 years for this country to completely fall apart.

03:59 DaemonFC; But it finally did.

4 AM, January 22

04:00 DaemonFC; What got exported to Mexico under NAFTA?

04:00 DaemonFC; Agricultural products that we lose money on because the government subsidizes it.

04:01 DaemonFC; And "banking services".

04:01 TR News; Techrights [Meme] Two Copywrongs Dont Make a Copyright (Screenshots of Pages of a Misogynist Who Attacks Women) http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Meme_Two_Copywrongs_Don_t_Make_a_Copyright_Screenshots_of_Pages.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Meme_Two_Copywrongs_Don_t_Make_a_Copyright_Screenshots_of_Pages.gmi

04:01 TR Bot; Techrights [Meme] Two Copywrongs Dont Make a Copyright (Screenshots of Pages of a Misogynist Who Attacks Women)

04:01 DaemonFC; They can't figure out how to do banking without us, you know.

04:02 DaemonFC; If US-based banks "invest" abroad and pull in the profits directly, this is a wonderful example of something that drives GDP but doesn't benefit many Americans.

04:02 DaemonFC; How many people's paychecks are funded by Jamie Dimon extracting investment returns from Mexico or something?

04:03 DaemonFC; That's why it's so great to see China turning on the US wealthy that invested there.

04:03 DaemonFC; Making every excuse about why they can't have their own money from Chinese banks.

04:03 DaemonFC; They have the money, in China. Where they can't do anything with it.

04:03 TR News; "OPML stands for "Outline Processor Markup Language" which isn't useful to explain what it does in this context." https://rknight.me/blog/creating-an-opml-file-for-my-blogroll/ | Source: Rob Knight

04:03 TR Bot; Creating an OPML File for my Blogroll Robb Knight

04:03 DaemonFC; Eventually, the Chinese government can just confiscate it.

04:03 TR News; "Some weeks ago, I sort of discovered this Grafana dashboard from a Hackerspace here in Eindhoven." https://hacdias.com/2024/01/21/attempt-visualizing-eve-room-weather-grafana/ | Source: Henrique Dias

04:03 TR Bot; Attempt at Visualizing Eve Room (and Weather) Metrics in Grafana - Henrique Dias

04:03 TR News; "How you get raw time series data from Prometheus, including its timestamps, is with an instant query that gives you a range vector as the result" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/PrometheusDeltaExtrapolation | Source: University of Toronto

04:04 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/PrometheusDeltaExtrapolation

04:04 TR News; "Given the success of stereo, though, one wonders why larger numbers of channels have met more limited success. " https://computer.rip/2024-01-21-multi-channel-audio-part-1.html | Source: Computers Are Bad

04:04 TR Bot; 2024-01-21 multi-channel audio part 1

04:05 TR News; "It replaces an earlier post. This new post was created because the network card was changed from a 1G fiber card to a 10G fiber card" https://dan.langille.org/2024/01/20/r730-03-2/ | Source: Dan Langille

04:05 TR Bot; r730-03 Dan Langille's Other Diary

04:05 TR News; "A huge number of software developers have their own blog where they publish posts about programming and software development regularly" https://syntackle.live/blog/blogroll-using-astro/ |

04:05 TR Bot; rssed Become A Developer Beyond Bookmarks

04:06 TR News; "What ever happened to service's providing a simple API key? I don't want to OAuth just because I want to run a single GET query on my own data." https://www.iwader.co.uk/posts/2024/01/just-give-me-an-api-key/ |

04:06 TR Bot; Just give me an API key | Wade Urry

04:06 TR News; "My journey into the world of IT began in 1999. At the age of almost 21, fresh out of school, I found myself standing at a crossroads." https://www.howtoforge.com/linux-self-hosted-environment/ | Source: HowTo Forge

04:06 TR Bot; How to build a Self-hosted environment on Linux with Proxmox

04:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: If there really was deflation or low inflation, I doubt people would scream about lower rates.

04:06 DaemonFC; I mean you do have to pay income taxes on bank interest even though the interest is only helping you deal with the inflation that's going on.

04:07 TR News; "I thought part 2 was the end of my restoration journey for Tobias the Valiant Turtle" https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2024/01/20/valiant-turtle-retro-restoration-part-3/ | Source: Andrew Hutchings

04:07 TR Bot; Valiant Turtle: Retro Restoration Part3 LinuxJedi's /dev/null

04:08 DaemonFC; I know you said the banks in the UK were cutting savings products.

04:08 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: depends

04:08 schestowitz[TR]; on what you pay

04:08 schestowitz[TR]; for instance,,

04:08 schestowitz[TR]; rich people dpn't pay rent

04:08 schestowitz[TR]; many charge rent

04:08 schestowitz[TR]; and food pricesss are a tiny component of their budget

04:08 schestowitz[TR]; in some countries food is over 50% of people's budgets

04:09 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: they cut the rates, gradually

04:09 schestowitz[TR]; depending on the bank

04:09 schestowitz[TR]; but they also lower it

04:09 schestowitz[TR]; for no clear reason

04:09 TR News; "Last year, I started to use Excalidraw as a diagram tool. However, the SVG images didnt display the font correctly." https://blog.frankel.ch/fonts-embedded-svg/ | Source: Nicolas Frnkel

04:09 TR Bot; Keeping your fonts in embedded SVG

04:10 TR News; "As of now, unlike Python or NodeJS, Go doesnt allow you to specify your development dependencies separately from those of the application." https://rednafi.com/go/omit_dev_dependencies_in_binaries/ | Source: Redowan Delowar

04:10 TR Bot; Omitting dev dependencies in Go binaries | Redowan's Reflections

04:10 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Yeah, but I get some of our food budget rebated.

04:10 DaemonFC; Through points schemes and stuff.

04:11 TR News; "Maybe surprisingly, the C programming language keeps evolving, slowly and carefully." https://lemire.me/blog/2024/01/21/c23-a-slightly-better-c/ | Source: Daniel Lemire

04:11 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2024/01/21/c23-a-slightly-better-c/ )

04:11 DaemonFC; There's various incentives schemes from all around to try to influence your decision about where to eat or something.

04:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: The best part is that those rewards schemes are not taxable.

04:12 DaemonFC; They're a rebate so they're not taxable.

04:13 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: i wonder if there's some cyberwar thing going on tonight

04:13 schestowitz[TR]; you can see details in another chhannel

04:13 schestowitz[TR]; biab

04:13 TR News; "My last post was using {hstats}, {kernelshap} and {shapviz} to explain a binary classification random forest." https://lorentzen.ch/index.php/2024/01/21/ml-xai-strong-glm/ | Source: Michael's and Christian's blog

04:13 TR Bot; ML + XAI -> Strong GLM Michael's and Christian's Blog

04:13 TR News; "I never had a hobby." https://antonio.is/2024/02/21/learning-new-tricks/ | Source: Antonio Rodrigues

04:13 TR Bot; Learning New Tricks - Antonio's Blog

04:14 TR News; "Salts State of API Security Report Q1:2023 reveals that APIs have become a prime target for attackers. Within six months" https://thecyberexpress.com/effective-api-security-strategy/ | Source: Cyble Inc

04:14 TR Bot; Fortify Your Systems With An Effective API Security Strategy

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; maybe too soon to check

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; in news sites

04:14 DaemonFC; The Federal Reserve pointed out that credit card points suck wealth out of the poorest and give it to the wealthiest.

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-68036507

04:14 TR Bot; Storm Isha live: Thousands without power as gusts could reach 100mph - BBC News

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; another possibility

04:14 DaemonFC; So you notice how that Inflation "Reduction" Act didn't tax card points.

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; maybe some router goes or went AWOL

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; and they tried to bypass the issue

04:15 DaemonFC; They could have gotten billions in taxes just by changing that so the card companies had to send out 1099s.

04:16 TR News; [Old] "Many congratulations that your programming language is easy to use, but that is not your job." https://josvisser.substack.com/p/why-python-is-terrible |

04:16 TR Bot; Why Python is terrible... - by Jos Visser

04:16 TR News; "2. Make sure its history can grow nearly infinitely and you can fuzzy-search through it." https://registerspill.thorstenball.com/p/which-command-did-you-run-1731-days | Source: Thorsten Ball

04:16 TR Bot; Which command did you run 1731 days ago? - by Thorsten Ball

04:17 schestowitz[TR]; routers needed to be rebooted

04:17 schestowitz[TR]; in several cities

04:17 schestowitz[TR]; not due to firmware updates

04:17 schestowitz[TR]; maybe the srorm knocked over some backbone stuff like JANET

04:18 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: unlike in portland,

04:18 schestowitz[TR]; it came back within mins

04:18 schestowitz[TR]; and no electric outsage

04:18 schestowitz[TR]; or burst pipes

04:18 schestowitz[TR]; like in portland

04:20 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I had to get after the landlord the other day.

04:21 DaemonFC; Someone broke a door closer on an outer door on the vestibule.

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04:21 TR Bot; Techrights IRC Proceedings: Sunday, January 21, 2024

04:21 DaemonFC; The temperature dropped in the building because of it even though there are other doors.

04:21 DaemonFC; I told him if the temperature stayed where it was, he'd end up paying a plumber several thousand dollars to fix a burst pipe in the middle of the night instead of paying a handyman to go get a $50 door closer at the hardware store.

04:22 DaemonFC; And even if it didn't happen, "It's not free to have all that heat escaping the building."

04:22 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR]: I had to get after the landlord the other day.

04:22 schestowitz[TR]; oh lord

04:22 schestowitz[TR]; landlord

04:23 DaemonFC; It's pretty bad when you have to impress upon them that if they ignore this message they'll end up blowing a pipe and causing thousands in damages to their own building.

04:28 DaemonFC; > Can You Pay Taxes With a Credit Card?

04:28 DaemonFC; > Yes, the IRS is happy for people to pay taxes with a credit card and has authorized three companies to process these payments. However, be aware that there are fees to pay for this service.

04:28 DaemonFC; > 8

04:28 DaemonFC; > Internal Revenue Service. "Pay Your Taxes by Debit or Credit Card or Digital Wallet.

04:28 DaemonFC; ---

04:29 MinceR; can you pay taxes with monero?

04:29 DaemonFC; You can but the fees add up to like a few percent. But if you sign up for a card that has a welcome bonus of like $1,000 but you have to spend like $5,000 to get it, and you pay your tax bill with it, you might go a long way towards the bonus.

04:30 DaemonFC; MinceR: The federal government doesn't consider crypto to be money. The IRS taxes it as property and capital gains or losses. So in that respect it's really not much different than buying and selling shares of stocks or buying gold or silver at one price, holding it for a while, selling it at another.

04:30 DaemonFC; You end up with short-term and long term rates. If you lose money, you can deduct it from your income.

04:30 MinceR; do they consider it to be a payment method?

04:30 DaemonFC; If they seize it from some criminals, they auction them off in exchange for US Dollars.

04:31 MinceR; after all, a credit card isn't money either

04:31 DaemonFC; No, you cannot pay your taxes in crypto. You can sell crypto for money to pay your taxes, but then that would create a taxable capital gains event for the current year.

04:31 DaemonFC; :)

04:31 MinceR; :>

04:32 DaemonFC; Crypto isn't money outside of a few oddball countries like Ecuador, where it's turned into an even bigger problem than using the US Dollar.

04:32 DaemonFC; Which they have done for years.

04:33 DaemonFC; MinceR: Walmart was looking into accepting bitcoins then never did.

04:33 DaemonFC; Probably didn't want the hassle of explaining to their customer why buying some underwear and cat food at Walmart was essentially like selling stock shares.

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04:35 DaemonFC; MinceR: The Bobcat took over my chair. She's had a personality change lately.

04:35 DaemonFC; She's been sleeping at the foot of the bed and she follows me around everywhere and coos and meows at me.

04:35 MinceR; you have a lynx? :>

04:35 DaemonFC; Bobbi

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04:35 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights

04:36 DaemonFC; I told John I was going to feed Joy (the landlord who was not Joyful) to the cat "I do have a Bobcat."

04:36 DaemonFC; He said, "You have a cat named Bob."

04:39 DaemonFC; MinceR: Banks didn't used to be allowed to pay sign up bonuses for new deposit accounts.

04:39 TR News; "I wish every blog post had a footer with easy ways to respond, preferably via email." https://www.amitgawande.com/2024/01/21/i-wish-every.html | Source: Amit Gawande

04:39 TR Bot; Amit Gawande

04:39 DaemonFC; So they'd give you toasters and coffee makers and all kinds of stuff.

04:39 TR News; "These instructions are obviously geared toward that tech stack but should be similar to many other setups." https://echoville.blog/notes-on-migrating-to-a-new-domain/ |

04:39 TR Bot; Notes on migrating Ghost and Mailgun to a new domain

04:40 TR News; "Let me explain. I connected my iPhone to the USB port on the Travel Router." https://merecivilian.com/travel-router/ |

04:40 TR Bot; Travel Router

04:40 DaemonFC; I remember when my aunt (dad's sister) got married and everyone in the family went and opened a bank account and each brought them a small appliance or something to the wedding.

04:40 TR News; "Stuff expands to fill whatever container you put it in, whether its a bookshelf, cupboard, drawer, or desk." https://rubenerd.com/possessions-are-a-gas-not-a-liquid/ | Source: Ruben Schade

04:40 TR Bot; Possessions are a gas, not a liquid

04:40 MinceR; connect your iPhone to your Colon

04:40 DaemonFC; Banking was a lot better in the 90s.

04:41 DaemonFC; I remember when your checking used to pay 5%. Your savings paid 8%.

04:41 DaemonFC; It wasn't because we had hyperinflation and that's what you needed to stay level either.

04:42 TR News; "As I pondered this thought over the New Year" https://tomgreenwood.substack.com/p/is-materialism-really-such-a-bad |

04:42 TR Bot; Is materialism really such a bad thing? - by Tom Greenwood

04:42 TR News; "Maybe in 10 years time, new developers will be questioning all your decisions and slagging you off via emojis." https://www.tommyp.org/blog/tales-from-a-solo-dev/ |

04:42 TR Bot; Tales from a solo dev | Tommy Palmer

04:43 TR News; "In recent years, municipal governments across Canada have strengthened regulations to limit short-term rentals" https://www.cbc.ca/radio/technology-short-term-rental-compliance-1.7086580 | Source: RFA

04:43 TR Bot; How technology is helping municipalities crack down on illegal short-term rentals | CBC Radio

04:44 TR News; "But the jobs of investigators like Katolyk are getting a lot easier thanks to new tech platforms that use artificial intelligence to help uncover illegal listings." https://www.cbc.ca/radio/technology-short-term-rental-compliance-1.7086580

04:46 *schestowitz-TR2 (~acer-box@24axkg87jqny6.irc) has joined #techrights

04:47 TR News; "Problem was, the stand upon which it pivoted and moved around lacked sufficient height for my ergonomic requirements." https://rubenerd.com/a-2024-yellow-pages-monitor-stand/ | Source: Ruben Schade

04:47 TR Bot; A 2024 Yellow Pages monitor stand

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05:06 DaemonFC; https://www.investopedia.com/new-worker-classification-rule-could-disrupt-the-us-gig-economy-8546526

05:06 TR Bot; New Worker Classification Rule Could Disrupt the U.S. Gig Economy

05:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: An end to the gig gulag?

05:06 schestowitz[TR]; i hope so

05:06 schestowitz[TR]; "gig" is ok

05:06 schestowitz[TR]; but

05:07 schestowitz[TR]; treat it like a job

05:07 schestowitz[TR]; holidays, ill days, pension etc.

05:07 schestowitz[TR]; and some decent minimal income

05:07 schestowitz[TR]; not ZHC

05:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: So much for Walmart throwing delivery orders in a Doordash and paying the guy $3 to drive to someone's house and lug 500 gallons of bottled water up six flights of stairs.

05:08 DaemonFC; :)

05:13 schestowitz[TR]; :/

05:13 schestowitz[TR]; funny to you

05:14 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, you used to deliver pizza from your car

05:14 TR News; "The past couple weeks, I have fallen down the lead-in-consumer-goods rabbit hole." https://tracydurnell.com/2024/01/21/misadventures-in-leaded-dishware/ | Source: Tracy Durnell

05:14 TR Bot; Misadventures in leaded dishware Tracy Durnell

05:18 DaemonFC; I don't recall that.

05:18 thiel3; where's scrollback for this channel?

05:19 thiel3; i clicked the link in the topic and i can't find anything

05:19 DaemonFC; Hi Lobsta

05:20 thiel3; DaemonFC: i'm on irssi and it's like

05:20 thiel3; 7:20 am

05:21 thiel3; sorry, ctcp disabled

05:21 thiel3; anyways, can i have history of this channel? i'm trying to grep for a topic

05:23 TR News; "Automation is employed in a big way in irrigation as well as spraying of pesticides across plantations" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/startups/ai-machine-learning-systems-drones-show-new-age-face-of-keralas-plantation-sector/articleshow/107033614.cms | Source: India Times

05:23 TR Bot; ai kerala plantation sector: AI, machine learning systems, drones show new-age face of Kerala's plantation sector - The Economic Times

05:24 TR News; Windows TCO https://siliconangle.com/2024/01/21/microsoft-corporate-email-accounts-hacked-group-behind-solarwinds-hack/ | Source: Silicon Angle

05:24 TR Bot; corporate email accounts hacked by same group behind SolarWinds hack - SiliconANGLE

05:24 TR News; Windows TCO https://thecyberexpress.com/cisa-fbi-epa-unveil-incident-response-guide/ | Source: Cyble Inc

05:24 TR Bot; CISA, FBI, EPA Unveil Comprehensive Incident Response Guide

05:25 TR News; Windows TCO https://www.databreaches.net/update-ransomware-attack-affecting-tietoevrys-services-for-some-customers-in-sweden/ | Source: Data Breaches

05:25 TR Bot; UPDATE: Ransomware attack affecting Tietoevrys services for some customers in Sweden

05:25 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I didn't say it was funny that they were doing it.

05:25 DaemonFC; I'm amused that they may have to stop doing it.

05:25 DaemonFC; And go "Look, you want groceries delivered, pay for it."

05:25 DaemonFC; When DoorDash has to pay people $15 an hour and health insurance, Walmart will drop DoorDash and either stop doing deliveries or hire their own workers.

05:26 thiel3; is there anyone i can talk to here?

05:26 TR News; "tl;dr: Emissions would increase by 60x." https://limited.systems/articles/google-search-vs-chatgpt-emissions/ |

05:26 TR Bot; Emissions from ChatGPT are much higher than from conventional search Wim Vanderbauwhede

05:26 TR News; "The battery was so flat that all the electronics had gone weird and it was registering no fuel" https://jasper.tandy.is/blogging/saturday-17 |

05:26 TR Bot; Jasper is blogging Saturday

05:27 TR News; "Netblocks issued a statement declaring that their official metric demonstrated disruptions to X" https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/01/pakistan-experiences-internet-disruption-during-virtual-pti-rally/ | Source: JURIST

05:27 TR Bot; Pakistan experiences internet disruption during virtual PTI rally - JURIST - News

05:27 DaemonFC; You can talk to me I suppose.

05:27 TR News; "That plunge was in large part due to the authorities' decision to put severe restrictions on RFE/RL" https://www.rferl.org/a/kyrgyzstan-media-journalists-raided-jailed/32784684.html | Source: RFERL

05:27 TR Bot; Kyrgyzstan's Vibrant Media Space In Peril After Journalists Raided, Jailed

05:27 thiel3; DaemonFC: who is Lobsta

05:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: All Doordash really is, is slavery as a "tech company with an app".

05:28 thiel3; DaemonFC: is there scrollback available as advertised in /topic or no?

05:28 TR News; "not being a racist" https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2024/01/21/my-dei-experience-it-must-be-removed/ | Source: Modern Diplomacy

05:28 TR Bot; My DEI Experience -It Must be Removed - Modern Diplomacy

05:28 DaemonFC; A persistent troll.

05:28 DaemonFC; Putting it mildly.

05:28 DaemonFC; /history will display a scrollback.

05:29 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR]: I didn't say it was funny that they were doing it.

05:29 schestowitz[TR]; it is really bad

05:29 TR News; (NEW): Windows TCO Stories http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Windows_TCO_Stories.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Windows_TCO_Stories.gmi

05:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines Windows TCO Stories

05:29 schestowitz[TR]; the super-rich doubled their welath in 4 years

05:29 schestowitz[TR]; while many sank

05:29 thiel3; perhaps i am a troll, just don't reckon ever doing it here

05:30 DaemonFC; Right, and the only reason Walmart does business with Doordash is so they don't have to pay minimum wage and benefits for grocery delivery.

05:30 thiel3; hmm irssi doesn't like /history

05:30 DaemonFC; If Doordash had to, then their value to Walmart as an employment law condom would vanish.

05:30 thiel3; isn't that some non-irc standard?

05:30 TR News; "In a statement to the Washington Post, which first reported the news" https://siliconangle.com/2024/01/21/openai-suspends-startup-used-gpt-4-model-impersonate-democratic-presidential-candidate/ | Source: Silicon Angle

05:30 TR Bot; suspends startup that used GPT-4 model to impersonate presidential candidate Dean Phillips - SiliconANGLE

05:30 DaemonFC; It's part of IRCv3.

05:30 thiel3; ick

05:30 TR News; Right of Publicity https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/01/20/openai-dean-phillips-ban-chatgpt/ | Source: The Washington Post

05:31 thiel3; DaemonFC: how long does the scrollback go?

05:31 DaemonFC; Oh, enough for general context.

05:31 DaemonFC; Maybe several hundred lines.

05:31 TR News; When you let scum from Microsoft run things https://futurism.com/the-byte/sam-altman-chatbot-joe-biden | Source: Futurism

05:31 TR Bot; Group Linked to Sam Altman Launches AI to Defeat Joe Biden

05:31 thiel3; meh i thought i'd get months of history nvm

05:31 DaemonFC; Why do you want months of history?

05:32 TR News; "creative industries are viewing this as a step backwards from the copyright exemption for text" https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/getty-images-ceo-calls-supporting-creative-industries-licensed-imagery-ai-training-1722878 | Source: International Business Times

05:32 TR Bot; Getty Images CEO Calls for Supporting Creative Industries With Licensed Imagery AI Training | IBTimes UK

05:32 thiel3; there are topics i want info on and i wanted to grep if they've been discussed here

05:33 DaemonFC; https://www.investopedia.com/earn-less-than-55k-get-overtime-7964491

05:33 TR Bot; Earn Less Than $55,068? You May Well Get Overtime

05:33 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: No more bumping people to salary and paying them $2,000 more to get rid of overtime pay and then making them work 60-70 hours a week.

05:33 DaemonFC; Discount retailers do that a lot.

05:34 DaemonFC; Not just Walmart, but Meijer, Best Buy, the fast food industry.

05:34 TR News; "A recent report estimated that there were over 141 billion visits to pirate sites in 2023." https://torrentfreak.com/canada-is-a-video-piracy-hotspot-while-brazil-shows-positive-signs-240121/ | Source: Torrent Freak

05:34 TR Bot; is a Video Piracy Hotspot While Brazil Sees Piracy in Decline' * TorrentFreak

05:34 TR News; "On modern desktop and laptop computers, there is rarely a need to think about memory." https://hackaday.com/2024/01/21/640k-was-never-enough-for-anyone-how-dos-broke-free/ | Source: Hackaday

05:34 TR Bot; Was Never Enough For Anyone: How DOS Broke Free | Hackaday

05:35 TR News; "This tutorial will help you to get LibreOffice 7.6 on Ubuntu side-by-side with and without removing the preinstalled version" https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2024/01/how-to-install-libreoffice-76-on-ubuntu.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz

05:35 TR Bot; How To Install LibreOffice 7.6 on Ubuntu

05:36 TR News; "This comprehensive guide covers how to install and configure the LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) stack on your Ubuntu 22.04" https://www.unixmen.com/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-and-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: Unix Men

05:36 TR Bot; How To Install Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP (LAMP) Stack on Ubuntu 22.04?

05:36 TR News; "Apple's EPIC malicious compliance validates the IRP program being a sham" https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/apple's-epic-malicious-compliance:d

05:36 TR Bot; Apple's EPIC malicious compliance validates the IRP program being a sham

05:37 TR News; (NEW): Review: Solus 4.5 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Review_Solus_4_5.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Review_Solus_4_5.gmi

05:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines Review: Solus 4.5

05:38 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: If we did adopt, the feds and state would give us about $5,000 in refundable tax credits each year. That would definitely help.

05:39 DaemonFC; Then again, depending on a program from the government for your survival is a bad idea.

05:39 schestowitz[TR]; yes

05:40 DaemonFC; There's another program that would give us about another $750 a month to adopt on top of that.

05:41 DaemonFC; I'm glad there are programs like that.

05:41 DaemonFC; But it's unfortunate that the wrong type of people take them.

05:41 DaemonFC; When I was younger I had some friends at school who were in foster care.

05:42 DaemonFC; Their foster mother was a nice lady.

05:42 DaemonFC; She really did use the money for things they needed.

05:42 DaemonFC; She took them out of the public schools and sent them to a better private one.

05:43 DaemonFC; She took them around to their doctor appointments and stuff in a big van she got. They always had plenty of clothes and toys, and they seemed to be doing as well as anyone.

05:43 DaemonFC; So it was not one of those "they take the money and chain the kids to a toilet" situations.

05:43 DaemonFC; You get that too sometimes.

05:44 DaemonFC; The State is incompetent so they don't really watch what they're doing with those children and then they end up in a home with some real monsters.

05:45 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I think in a sense it was that woman's "job" to be a foster mother. She spent almost every minute of the day taking care of those kids.

05:45 DaemonFC; It's a well intentioned program.

05:45 schestowitz[TR]; sounds liike it

05:45 schestowitz[TR]; did you see:

05:45 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/New_Interview_With_Richard_Stallman_in_the_Exploring_Antinatali.shtml

05:45 TR Bot; Techrights New Interview With Richard Stallman in the 'Exploring Antinatalism' Podcast (Very Personal Topics Covered)

05:45 schestowitz[TR]; RMS covers some related points

05:46 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Well, adoption is "different" because you're not adding to a problem.

05:46 schestowitz[TR]; about paternts

05:46 schestowitz[TR]; and how many fail to look after their kids

05:46 schestowitz[TR]; worth watching

05:46 schestowitz[TR]; you can probvably relate as you are gay

05:46 DaemonFC; I'd be fine with adopting. I don't want to have my own children because there's too many here that have nothing and nobody loves them and nobody takes care of them.

05:46 DaemonFC; It's very selfish to create more instead of solving a problem that exists.

05:46 schestowitz[TR]; yes

05:46 schestowitz[TR]; but you can also adopt pets

05:47 schestowitz[TR]; non-human pets

05:47 schestowitz[TR]; they cause vastly less pollution

05:47 schestowitz[TR]; never mind money

05:47 schestowitz[TR]; and they can be loyal companions

05:47 schestowitz[TR]; not become drug dealer

05:48 TR News; 2024-01-21 multi-channel audio part 1 https://computer.rip/2024-01-21-multi-channel-audio-part-1.html

05:48 TR Bot; 2024-01-21 multi-channel audio part 1

05:52 TR News; (NEW): 6 Best Free and Open Source Single Sign-On Software http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/6_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Single_Sign_On_Software.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/6_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Single_Sign_On_Software.gmi

05:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines 6 Best Free and Open Source Single Sign-On Software

05:53 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: What software are they using on that video call?

05:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: He says back in the 60s when having a family wasn't as horribly stressful as it is now.

05:57 DaemonFC; Hell, the 90s even.

05:58 DaemonFC; I mean, I'm sure the 60s were a less stressful time than the 90s. Every decade that goes by, the world gets more crowded and more polluted, and people get meaner, and the crime goes up, and intelligence scores and educational scores go down.

05:58 DaemonFC; I'm talking about useful, practical abilities, like reading, or solving math problems, or the ability to think abstractly or in complicated ways.

05:59 DaemonFC; The younger people now just seem extremely neurotic and not fully formed into individuals.

6 AM, January 22

06:00 DaemonFC; In some ways, I would say that an older man in a relationship with someone in their 20s is a pedophile, because a person today in their early 20s has this "childlike" mentality.

06:00 DaemonFC; They have unrealistic expectations, their worldview is not that of an adult.

06:00 DaemonFC; They weren't educated or they were barely educated. They got cheated.

06:01 DaemonFC; They're less cognitively formed than I was, in some ways, age 10.

06:01 DaemonFC; And their parents didn't have any time for them and the State replaced their education with mush and gender confusion.

06:01 DaemonFC; So I mean, it's not their fault. They're the victims of a horrible crime that society has allowed to befall them.

06:03 DaemonFC; And, you know, they don't get out there, they don't get thrown out into the world like I did and they don't get a concept of having responsibilities so then you find them in their 30s even with no job, never had a job, playing video games in their parents' house while some of the others overdosed or went to prison or the military.

06:04 DaemonFC; You know, there still are parents that say get out of my house when you're 18, and the guy can't find a job so shit happens.

06:04 DaemonFC; Either the gangs or the military recruiters get em.

06:04 DaemonFC; Or they start working fast food or something.

06:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Yeah, the Pope said I've been bad.

06:07 DaemonFC; Not having kids, having cats instead.

06:07 DaemonFC; :)

06:08 DaemonFC; The Catholic Church is a criminal organization.

06:08 DaemonFC; But things that have been around a long time become authoritative.

06:08 DaemonFC; Few people take a new cult seriously because it hasn't been around very long.

06:09 DaemonFC; But you take something that's been around for thousands of years and a lot of people become compelled to believe it because it's been around a while.

06:09 DaemonFC; "Oh yeah, Jesus started this it's been around for a couple thousand years."

06:10 DaemonFC; You tell people a religion was started in the 60s by a guy who said he just wanted to fuck the IRS, and they view it differently, of course.

06:12 DaemonFC; Germany declared Scientology a criminal organization and banned it, because it wasn't well established.

06:12 DaemonFC; The United States allows anyone who puts a pasta bowl on their head to say they're a religion, so anything goes.

06:13 DaemonFC; The "mainstream" ones are having such a field day abdicating themselves of their social responsibilities using the First Amendment that everyone gets to ride, in some ways.

06:13 DaemonFC; In other ways, the government doesn't go along with it as much.

06:14 DaemonFC; They know if they don't go along with Islamic prison meals they're going to have a bigger problem than if they make the one guy wearing a pasta strainer unhappy.

06:18 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR]: Yeah, the Pope said I've been bad.

06:18 schestowitz[TR]; how many kids does the pope have?

06:18 schestowitz[TR]; and jesus for that matter?

06:23 TR News; GNU/Linux growing in Hungary https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/hungary/#monthly-200903-202401

06:23 TR Bot; Desktop Operating System Market Share Hungary | Statcounter Global Stats

06:24 DaemonFC; None.

06:25 DaemonFC; https://www.investopedia.com/p-and-g-expected-to-report-lower-income-despite-revenue-gains-8546484

06:25 TR Bot; Procter & Gamble Expected to Report Lower Income Despite Revenue Gains

06:25 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Revenue up 4%, net income down 0.8%.

06:25 DaemonFC; Yeah, they've been putting out huge rebates.

06:25 DaemonFC; They're in a holding pattern, clearly, not wanting to commit to price cuts, but realizing they went too far and the economy is falling over.

06:25 TR News; GNU/Linux 6% in Hong Kong https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/hong-kong/#monthly-200901-202401

06:25 TR Bot; Desktop Operating System Market Share Hong Kong | Statcounter Global Stats

06:26 DaemonFC; "While the company saw surges in its share price tied to positive earnings reports, it also suffered when it announced $2.5 billion in restructuring charges tied to its Gillette business."

06:26 DaemonFC; There was a huge backlash to a bunch of tranny ads where some dad put his daughter on testosterone and helped her shave.

06:26 DaemonFC; And so they had a Bud Light moment there.

06:26 TR News; And 9% in Ukraine https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/ukraine/#monthly-200901-202401

06:26 TR Bot; Desktop Operating System Market Share Ukraine | Statcounter Global Stats

06:30 TR News; Women Still Typically Outlive Men, But That Gender Gap Is Slowly Closing https://www.sciencealert.com/women-still-typically-outlive-men-but-that-gender-gap-is-slowly-closing

06:30 TR Bot; Still Typically Outlive Men, But That Gender Gap Is Slowly Closing : ScienceAlert

06:31 TR News; 'Smoking Gun': Study Reveals How Virus May Trigger Multiple Sclerosis https://www.sciencealert.com/smoking-gun-study-reveals-how-virus-may-trigger-multiple-sclerosis

06:31 TR Bot; Gun': Study Reveals How Virus May Trigger Multiple Sclerosis : ScienceAlert

06:33 TR News; Overpopulation proven https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/despite-s-korea-s-low-birth-rate-babies-are-being-sent-overseas-for-adoption-why

06:33 TR Bot; Despite S. Koreas low birth rate, babies are still being sent overseas for adoption | The Straits Times

06:34 TR News; Malaysias economic reforms set to eat into budgets of middle, high-income households https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/malaysia-s-economic-reforms-set-to-eat-into-budgets-of-middle-high-income-households

06:34 TR Bot; Malaysias economic reforms set to eat into budgets of middle, high-income households | The Straits Times

06:39 TR News; Russia draft law would confiscate assets from people spreading false information https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/01/russia-draft-law-would-confiscate-assets-from-people-spreading-false-information/

06:39 TR Bot; Russia draft law would confiscate assets from people 'spreading false information' - JURIST - News

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06:45 TR News; Microsoft: state-backed actors in our systems for nearly two months https://itwire.com/security/microsoft-state-backed-actors-in-our-systems-for-nearly-two-months.html

06:45 TR Bot; - Microsoft: state-backed actors in our systems for nearly two months

06:47 TR News; [Meme] Two Copywrongs Dont Make a Copyright (Screenshots of Pages of a Misogynist Who Attacks Women) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Meme_Two_Copywrongs_Don_t_Make_a_Copyright_Screenshots_of_Pages.shtml

06:47 TR Bot; Techrights [Meme] Two Copywrongs Dont Make a Copyright (Screenshots of Pages of a Misogynist Who Attacks Women)

06:48 TR News; Nslookup Command in GNU/Linux with Examples https://idroot.us/nslookup-command-linux/

06:48 TR Bot; Nslookup Command in Linux with Examples - idroot

06:48 TR News; How To Install Stable Diffusion on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-stable-diffusion-ubuntu-22-04/

06:48 TR Bot; How To Install Stable Diffusion on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - idroot

06:48 TR News; How To Install Composer on openSUSE https://idroot.us/install-composer-opensuse/

06:48 TR Bot; How To Install Composer on openSUSE - idroot

06:50 TR News; Nearly 1 in 5 Online Health Tests 'Quackery'. Here's How to Avoid Them. https://www.sciencealert.com/nearly-1-in-5-online-health-tests-quackery-heres-how-to-avoid-them

06:50 TR Bot; 1 in 5 Online Health Tests 'Quackery'. Here's How to Avoid Them. : ScienceAlert

06:50 TR News; How to install Rustdesk on Ubuntu https://owlhowto.com/how-to-install-rustdesk-on-ubuntu/

06:50 TR Bot; How to install Rustdesk on Ubuntu

06:52 TR News; How to Install the Icinga 2 Monitoring Software on Ubuntu 22.04 https://vitux.com/how-to-install-icinga-2-monitoring-software-on-ubuntu/

06:52 TR Bot; to Install the Icinga 2 Monitoring Software on Ubuntu 22.04 - VITUX

06:52 TR News; How to monitor your Pop!_OS system resources https://www.fosslinux.com/137463/how-to-monitor-your-pop_os-system-resources.htm

06:52 TR Bot; How to Monitor Your Pop!_OS System Resources | FOSS Linux

06:53 TR News; How to install and run OneNote note-taking app on Ubuntu https://linux.how2shout.com/how-to-install-and-run-onenote-note-taking-app-on-ubuntu/

06:53 TR Bot; How to install and run OneNote note-taking app on Ubuntu - Linux Shout

06:53 TR News; How To Repair the GRUB Bootloader Using A Ubuntu Live USB Drive https://www.ubuntupit.com/how-to-repair-the-grub-bootloader-using-a-ubuntu-live-usb-drive/

06:53 TR Bot; How To Repair the GRUB Bootloader Using A Ubuntu Live USB Drive

06:53 TR News; How To Install Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP (LAMP) Stack on Ubuntu 22.04? https://www.unixmen.com/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-and-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-22-04/

06:53 TR Bot; How To Install Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP (LAMP) Stack on Ubuntu 22.04?

06:57 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/today_s_howtos.gmi

06:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

06:59 TR News; How to use an L298N with Raspberry PI Pico: Driving Motors with MicroPython https://peppe8o.com/l298n-raspberry-pi-pico/

06:59 TR Bot; How to use an L298N with Raspberry PI Pico: Driving Motors with MicroPython

06:59 TR News; Waveshare PCIe to M.2 adapter for Raspberry Pi 5 will only cost you $8.99 https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/01/22/waveshare-cheap-pcie-to-m-2-adapter-for-raspberry-pi-5/

06:59 TR Bot; Waveshare PCIe to M.2 adapter for Raspberry Pi 5 will only cost you $8.99 - CNX Software

06:59 TR News; (NEW): Security and Windows TCO Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Security_and_Windows_TCO_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Security_and_Windows_TCO_Leftovers.gmi

06:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security and Windows TCO Leftovers

7 AM, January 22

07:02 TR News; (NEW): Retro and Raspberry Pi Picks http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Retro_and_Raspberry_Pi_Picks.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Retro_and_Raspberry_Pi_Picks.gmi

07:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines Retro and Raspberry Pi Picks

07:04 TR News; (NEW): Free, Libre, and Open Source Software and Programming http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_and_Programming.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_and_Programming.gmi

07:04 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free, Libre, and Open Source Software and Programming

07:10 TR News; "It was made clear that there could not be a status of not being a racist, rather you have to be anti-racist. In other words, you cannot remain silent, and you are pressured to take action to demonstrate your allegiance to this ideological mantra." https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2024/01/21/my-dei-experience-it-must-be-removed/

07:10 TR Bot; My DEI Experience -It Must be Removed - Modern Diplomacy

07:10 TR News; "This was beginning to make me feel like recruitment for the paramilitary storm troopers, also known as Brown Shirts, who organized activities to intimidate opponents and Jews." https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2024/01/21/my-dei-experience-it-must-be-removed/

07:14 TR News; Techrights Links 22/01/2024: Microsoft's Chatbot Openly Promotes Fascism, Getty Images Latest to Call for Action http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Links_22_01_2024_Microsoft_s_Chatbot_Openly_Promotes_Fascism_Ge.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Links_22_01_2024_Microsoft_s_Chatbot_Openly_Promotes_Fascism_Ge.gmi

07:14 TR Bot; Techrights Links 22/01/2024: Microsoft's Chatbot Openly Promotes Fascism, Getty Images Latest to Call for Action

07:21 TR News; (NEW): AV Linux 23 Review: Linux for Creators with Enlightenment Desktop http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/AV_Linux_23_Review_Linux_for_Creators_with_Enlightenment_Deskto.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/AV_Linux_23_Review_Linux_for_Creators_with_Enlightenment_Deskto.gmi

07:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines AV Linux 23 Review: Linux for Creators with Enlightenment Desktop

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07:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Consider this.

07:33 schestowitz[TR]; go ahead

07:33 DaemonFC; If the world had half as many people, things would be cheaper. We wouldn't all have to panic about being on the verge of so many disasters.

07:33 DaemonFC; There'd be less war.

07:33 schestowitz[TR]; yes

07:33 schestowitz[TR]; but we were there

07:33 schestowitz[TR]; 4 billion people

07:33 schestowitz[TR]; not long ago

07:33 DaemonFC; Bad things happen when there's too many people around, even if you can figure out how to feed them all.

07:34 schestowitz[TR]; your parents were around

07:34 schestowitz[TR]; let me check which year

07:34 schestowitz[TR]; hang on

07:34 schestowitz[TR]; the black death i europe was very temporary decrease

07:34 schestowitz[TR]; based on this graph

07:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: 1974 or so.

07:35 DaemonFC; 4 billion people.

07:35 DaemonFC; Everyone got around in cars twice as big as we have no.

07:35 DaemonFC; *now

07:35 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projections_of_population_growth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World_population_growth,_1700-2100,_2022_revision.png

07:35 TR Bot; Projections of population growth - Wikipedia

07:35 TR Bot; File:World population growth, 1700-2100, 2022 revision.png - Wikipedia

07:35 DaemonFC; 6-8 miles a gallon maybe.

07:35 schestowitz[TR]; 1987 5 billion

07:35 DaemonFC; 40-50 cents a gallon for gas. That's WITH an oil embargo.

07:35 schestowitz[TR]; 1950 2.5

07:36 schestowitz[TR]; we almost quadrupled since WW111

07:36 schestowitz[TR]; 1

07:36 DaemonFC; Yeah, war never kills enough to affect the population much.

07:36 DaemonFC; At least not for long.

07:36 DaemonFC; People get back from war, make a lot of babies, things get worse, then there's more war.

07:37 schestowitz[TR]; https://ourworldindata.org/population-growth

07:37 TR Bot; Population Growth - Our World in Data

07:37 DaemonFC; It's the same with disease.

07:37 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/

07:37 TR Bot; World Population by Year - Worldometer

07:37 schestowitz[TR]; 1975

07:37 schestowitz[TR]; 4,069,437,231

07:38 schestowitz[TR]; -4000

07:38 schestowitz[TR]; 7,000,000

07:38 DaemonFC; Yeah, I remember Meathead arguing with Archie Bunker.

07:38 schestowitz[TR]; 7 million

07:38 schestowitz[TR]; not billion

07:38 DaemonFC; "We got 4 billion people in the world and can't figure out how to feed half of them."

07:38 schestowitz[TR]; took 1000 years to double

07:38 schestowitz[TR]; -3000

07:38 schestowitz[TR]; 14,000,000

07:39 schestowitz[TR]; about 150,000,000 200 BC

07:40 TR News; Jetway launches the JF35-ADN1 A 3.5 defective chip maker Intel N97 SBC designed for industrial robotics applications https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/01/21/jetway-jf35-adn1-3-5-intel-n97-sbc-industrial-robotics-applications/

07:40 TR Bot; Jetway launches the JF35-ADN1 A 3.5 Intel N97 SBC designed for industrial robotics applications - CNX Software

07:40 TR News; Garden Light Turned Mesh Network Node https://hackaday.com/2024/01/21/garden-light-turned-mesh-network-node/ | Source: Hackaday

07:40 TR Bot; Light Turned Mesh Network Node | Hackaday

07:44 TR News; "smartwatch" https://hackaday.com/2024/01/21/reverse-engineering-the-web-nywhere-watch-for-2001-era-smartwatch-action/ | Source: Hackaday

07:44 TR Bot; The Web-@nywhere Watch For 2001-Era Smartwatch Action | Hackaday

07:44 TR News; Computer Logic Spins With No Electricity https://hackaday.com/2024/01/21/computer-logic-spins-with-no-electricity/ | Source: Hackaday

07:44 TR Bot; Logic Spins With No Electricity | Hackaday

07:45 TR News; Simulating Cellular Biology In The Browser https://hackaday.com/2024/01/21/simulating-cellular-biology-in-the-browser/ | Source: Hackaday | sadly, Microsoft GitHub and TypeScript, i.e. hostile towards the open Web and helpful to DRM pushets

07:45 TR Bot; Cellular Biology In The Browser | Hackaday

07:48 TR News; But revenue and income are not the same https://siliconangle.com/2024/01/21/boomi-ceo-absolute-predator-mode/

07:48 TR Bot; CEO: 'We are in absolute predator mode' - SiliconANGLE

07:49 TR News; Companies that speak only of "revenue" typically to distract from their income/profit, not just because it is less impressive; sometimes it is outright bad

07:51 TR News; You can even buy from yourself to fake "revenue" (by proxy); that does nothing for profitability, it is like buybacks that merely embezzle or getting some fake "share buyer" to help create fictional "value" by extrapolation.

07:51 TR News; Nightshade https://hackaday.com/2024/01/21/creators-can-fight-back-against-ai-with-nightshade/ | Source: Hackaday

07:51 TR Bot; Can Fight Back Against AI With Nightshade | Hackaday

07:52 TR News; WASTE of energy. Make the programs a LOT leaner, INSTEAD. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intels-next-gen-arrow-lake-cpus-might-come-without-hyperthreaded-cores-leak-points-to-24-cpu-cores-ddr5-6400-support-and-a-new-800-series-chipset

07:52 TR Bot; Intel's next-gen Arrow Lake CPUs might come without hyperthreaded cores leak points to 24 CPU cores, DDR5-6400 support, and a new 800-series chipset | Tom's Hardware

07:53 TR News; "A criminal law professor says that the fake posters may be illegal under Finnish defamation laws" https://yle.fi/a/74-20070529

07:53 TR Bot; Fake election posters pop up at Helsinki tram stops | Yle News | Yle

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07:59 TR News; Some Hong Kong lawyers linked to 2019 protest humanitarian fund could see suspensions after police complaints https://hongkongfp.com/2024/01/22/some-hong-kong-lawyers-linked-to-2019-protest-fund-could-see-suspensions-following-nat-sec-police-complaints/

07:59 TR Bot; HK lawyers linked to 2019 demos fund may face suspension

8 AM, January 22

08:01 TR News; Amazon sold a fake RTX 4090 FrankenGPU cobbled together using a 4080 GPU and board scam card was found in a returns pallet deal https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amazon-sold-a-fake-rtx-4090-frankengpu-cobbled-together-with-a-laptop-gpu-and-4080-board-scam-board-was-found-in-a-returns-pallet-deal

08:01 TR Bot; Amazon sold a fake RTX 4090 FrankenGPU cobbled together using a 4080 GPU and board scam card was found in a returns pallet deal | Tom's Hardware

08:01 TR News; Pakistan experiences internet disruption during virtual PTI rally https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/01/pakistan-experiences-internet-disruption-during-virtual-pti-rally/

08:01 TR Bot; Pakistan experiences internet disruption during virtual PTI rally - JURIST - News

08:04 TR News; "Says Abusive Monopolist Microsoft Boss" https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/20/Says_Microsoft_Boss.shtml

08:04 TR Bot; Techrights "Says Microsoft Boss"

08:04 TR News; [Meme] Thank You for a Decade in Power Over a Staff Tribunal (Not Even My Colleagues) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/21/Meme_Thank_You_for_a_Decade_in_Power_Over_a_Staff_Tribunal_Not_.shtml

08:04 TR Bot; Techrights [Meme] Thank You for a Decade in Power Over a Staff Tribunal (Not Even My Colleagues)

08:04 TR News; (NEW): CapyPDF 0.8.0 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/CapyPDF_0_8_0_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/CapyPDF_0_8_0_released.gmi

08:04 TR Bot; Tux Machines CapyPDF 0.8.0 released

08:04 TR News; Militants Who Attacked Techrights by Doing Horrible and Illegal Things Try to Delete Themselves From the Web https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Militants_Who_Attacked_Techrights_by_Doing_Horrible_and_Illegal.shtml

08:04 TR Bot; Techrights Militants Who Attacked Techrights by Doing Horrible and Illegal Things Try to Delete Themselves From the Web

08:04 TR News; Lozza, Who Had Already Been Arrested, Tried to Take Down the Site That Spoke About Lozza's Crimes (Committed Against That Site Too!) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Lozza_Who_Had_Already_Been_Arrested_Tried_to_Take_Down_the_Site.shtml

08:04 TR Bot; Techrights Lozza, Who Had Already Been Arrested, Tried to Take Down the Site That Spoke About Lozza's Crimes (Committed Against That Site Too!)

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08:10 TR News; European Patent Office Staff Representatives Express Concerns About the New Pension Scheme Regulations and Transfer of Pension Rights (Contracting States) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/21/European_Patent_Office_Staff_Representatives_Express_Concerns_A.shtml

08:10 TR Bot; Techrights European Patent Office Staff Representatives Express Concerns About the New Pension Scheme Regulations and Transfer of Pension Rights (Contracting States)

08:10 TR News; In the European Patent Office, Hans van Houtte Helps Stack the Appeals Committee (Internal Tribunal) in Favour of the Dictators Who Break Laws (updated) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/21/In_the_European_Patent_Office_Hans_van_Houtte_Helps_Stack_the_A.shtml

08:10 TR Bot; Techrights In the European Patent Office, Hans van Houtte Helps Stack the Appeals Committee (Internal Tribunal) in Favour of the Dictators Who Break Laws

08:10 TR News; C23: a slightly better C https://lemire.me/blog/2024/01/21/c23-a-slightly-better-c/

08:10 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2024/01/21/c23-a-slightly-better-c/ )

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08:12 TR News; OpenBSD PF-based firewalls suffer differently from DoS attacks https://blog.apnic.net/2024/01/22/openbsd-pf-based-firewalls-suffer-differently-from-dos-attacks/

08:12 TR Bot; OpenBSD PF-based firewalls suffer differently from DoS attacks | APNIC Blog

08:13 TR News; Koji download-build kernel-6.7.1-200.fc39 https://dbaxps.blogspot.com/2024/01/koji-download-build-kernel-671-200fc39.html

08:13 TR Bot; Openstack RDO && KVM Hypervisor: Koji download-build kernel-6.7.1-200.fc39

08:14 TR News; Simon Ser: Status update, January 2024 https://emersion.fr/blog/2024/status-update-60/

08:14 TR Bot; Status update, January 2024 emersion

08:16 TR News; Possessions are a gas, not a liquid https://rubenerd.com/possessions-are-a-gas-not-a-liquid/

08:16 TR Bot; Possessions are a gas, not a liquid

08:19 TR News; GNU World Order 548 http://gnuworldorder.info//audiophile/gnuWorldOrder_548_ogg.ogg

08:20 TR News; easyVoid version 6.0.1 released https://bkhome.org/news/202401/easyvoid-version-601-released.html

08:20 TR Bot; easyVoid version 6.0.1 released

08:21 TR News; (NEW): easyVoid version 6.0 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/20/easyVoid_version_6_0_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/20/easyVoid_version_6_0_released.gmi

08:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines easyVoid version 6.0 released

08:22 TR News; Linus Torvalds Announces the First GNU/Linux Kernel 6.8 Release Candidate https://9to5linux.com/linus-torvalds-announces-the-first-linux-kernel-6-8-release-candidate

08:22 TR Bot; Torvalds Announces the First Linux Kernel 6.8 Release Candidate - 9to5Linux

08:25 TR News; HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI ... just putting new buzzword lipstick on the word "automation" https://www.inventiva.co.in/trends/amidst-workforce-layoffs-paytm-ceo-vijay-shekhar-sharma-says-demand-for-workforce-likely-to-shrink-as-paytm-ups-ai-play/

08:25 TR Bot; Amidst Workforce Layoffs, Paytm CEO Vijay Shekhar Sharma Says Demand For Workforce Likely To Shrink As Paytm Ups AI Play - Inventiva

08:28 TR News; Suppose Linux (kernel) has had 10,000 contributors (unique people). Yet every year for 15 years the media will try to associate it with one, Hans Reiser. How about linking Microsoft to the many CRIMINALS, associated with it even at a very high level? Media is rotten.

08:29 TR News; Tracking the Demise of 'Linux' News Sites (and of News Sites in General) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/20/Lack_of_news.shtml

08:29 TR Bot; Techrights Tracking the Demise of 'Linux' News Sites (and of News Sites in General)

08:29 TR News; Over at Tux Machines... https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/21/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml

08:29 TR Bot; Techrights Over at Tux Machines...

08:30 TR News; Nora is billed as an elegant music player https://www.linuxlinks.com/nora-music-player/

08:30 TR Bot; is billed as an elegant music player - LinuxLinks

08:30 TR News; Memento mpv-based video player for studying Japanese https://www.linuxlinks.com/memento-mpv-based-video-player-studying-japanese/

08:30 TR Bot; - mpv-based video player for studying Japanese - LinuxLinks

08:30 TR News; 6 Best Free and Open Source Single Sign-On Software https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-single-sign-on-software/

08:30 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Single Sign-On Software - LinuxLinks

08:31 TR News; (NEW): DietPi January 2024 news (version 9.0) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/DietPi_January_2024_news_version_9_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/DietPi_January_2024_news_version_9_0.gmi

08:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines DietPi January 2024 news (version 9.0)

08:31 TR News; Top 20 Linux Mint keyboard shortcuts for beginners https://www.fosslinux.com/137522/linux-mint-keyboard-shortcuts-for-beginners.htm

08:31 TR Bot; Top 20 Linux Mint Keyboard Shortcuts for Beginners

08:31 TR News; How to launch Chrome with a keyboard shortcut in Linux Mint https://www.fosslinux.com/137518/add-custom-keyboard-shortcuts-in-linux-mint.htm

08:31 TR Bot; How to Launch Chrome with a Keyboard Shortcut in Linux Mint

08:32 TR News; Linux Tar Command Explained with Examples https://vitux.com/linux-tar-command/

08:32 TR Bot; Tar Command Explained with Examples - VITUX

08:32 TR News; Are You Looking for GNU/Linux Vulnerabilities in the Right Places? https://linuxsecurity.com/news/cloud-security/linux-vulnerability-scanning

08:32 TR Bot; Are You Looking for Linux Vulnerabilities in the Right Places? | LinuxSecurit...

08:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I was able to arrange the order in which some claims went to the insurance company such that they covered everything except $19 of the urgent care visit last week.

08:33 DaemonFC; If I hadn't then they would have sent us a bill for nearly $400 for running a flu test and writing a prescription.

08:33 TR News; The lion's share of Linux malware comes from Microsoft servers, e.g. NPM and GitHub. But the media fancies blaming "Linux".

08:33 DaemonFC; Mandy says I'm stupid and that I don't do anything to help him. He doesn't appreciate that I'm keeping everything running here.

08:33 TR News; DietPi January 2024 news (version 9.0) https://linuxgizmos.com/dietpi-january-2024-news-version-9-0/

08:34 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/dietpi-january-2024-news-version-9-0/ )

08:34 DaemonFC; I am the reason we have a roof and heat and not a pile of airpods while we're living in a tent.

08:34 DaemonFC; His mind is really so bad when it comes to adulting that it's scary.

08:34 DaemonFC; He doesn't know how to get by in a country like ours.

08:35 DaemonFC; He says it's even more difficult and confusing in this country than in the one he's from, where they use Frontpage 2000 to make government Web sites.

08:37 TR News; You Can Now Install GNU/Linux Kernel 6.7 on Ubuntu, Heres How https://9to5linux.com/you-can-now-install-linux-kernel-6-7-on-ubuntu-heres-how

08:37 TR Bot; Can Now Install Linux Kernel 6.7 on Ubuntu, Heres How - 9to5Linux

08:37 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> Mandy says I'm stupid and that I don't do anything to help him. He doesn't appreciate that I'm keeping everything running here.

08:37 schestowitz[TR]; maybe a lot happens

08:37 schestowitz[TR]; but it is not noticed

08:37 schestowitz[TR]; my advice:

08:37 schestowitz[TR]; do it after he is back from work

08:37 schestowitz[TR]; so he can see the time you put in

08:37 schestowitz[TR]; another option isss,

08:38 TR News; (NEW): Battle testing PHP fopen, SQLite, PostgreSQL and MariaDB on FFS2, UFS, ext4, XFS and ZFS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Battle_testing_PHP_fopen_SQLite_PostgreSQL_and_MariaDB_on_FFS2_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Battle_testing_PHP_fopen_SQLite_PostgreSQL_and_MariaDB_on_FFS2_.gmi

08:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines Battle testing PHP fopen, SQLite, PostgreSQL and MariaDB on FFS2, UFS, ext4, XFS and ZFS

08:38 schestowitz[TR]; make a list

08:38 schestowitz[TR]; it was an old issue for housewives

08:38 schestowitz[TR]; later known as "stay in home moms"

08:38 schestowitz[TR]; or "welfare moms"

08:38 schestowitz[TR]; they demonised women

08:38 schestowitz[TR]; so that the old household wage

08:38 schestowitz[TR]; would require TWO people working

08:38 schestowitz[TR]; for the same salary as before

08:39 schestowitz[TR]; thennn theeen rush to do washing and stuff at 9pm or weekends

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08:39 schestowitz[TR]; and nobody raises the kids

08:39 schestowitz[TR]; except state schools

08:39 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. the oligarch

08:39 schestowitz[TR]; and maybe some extracurricular "classes" after s hooll

08:39 schestowitz[TR]; because "mom and dad" are both at work

08:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: The State schools are so bad that even the Christian church schools are better.

08:39 DaemonFC; That isn't even a new thing.

08:39 schestowitz[TR]; might pick yuou up

08:39 DaemonFC; That's been true in the US for over 20 years.

08:39 schestowitz[TR]; throw you at TV set (Trump, Bill Saysss)

08:39 schestowitz[TR]; while they do the washing

08:40 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: yes, but there are workarounds

08:40 schestowitz[TR]; like home-schooling

08:40 schestowitz[TR]; or kin kids or..

08:41 schestowitz[TR]; (no kids, or frugal life)

08:41 DaemonFC; I can't imagine how it's more difficult in the United States than a country where the president just tells the police to go out and kill people, and they kill thousands of people, and nobody does anything about it, and he gets more popular.

08:41 schestowitz[TR]; but many don't choose the bracketed stuff

08:41 DaemonFC; But hearing that it doesn't surprise me that their government Web sites are using Microsoft Frontpage 2000.

08:41 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Here, if the police shoot and kill one person, even a very VERY bad person who had it coming, they take their badge and gun, there's an investigation.

08:42 DaemonFC; Maybe even murder charges for the cop.

08:42 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: dutertue conditioned people to think a mass murderer is OK

08:42 schestowitz[TR]; and a hero

08:42 schestowitz[TR]; then his son was elected

08:42 TR News; ML + XAI -> Strong GLM https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/01/ml-xai-strong-glm/

08:42 TR Bot; + XAI -> Strong GLM | R-bloggers

08:42 TR News; Centering in Moderation Analysis: A Guide https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/01/centering-in-moderation-analysis-a-guide/

08:42 TR Bot; in Moderation Analysis: A Guide | R-bloggers

08:42 schestowitz[TR]; it is like desantis and trumo

08:43 schestowitz[TR]; you lose track of who is more radical

08:43 schestowitz[TR]; but they ccchange the barrr

08:43 schestowitz[TR]; now it's not radical like "the other guy"

08:43 schestowitz[TR]; so you get aay with really nasty policies

08:43 schestowitz[TR]; like women must bear a kid

08:43 schestowitz[TR]; just because

08:43 schestowitz[TR]; to keep women down

08:43 DaemonFC; And if she has a miscarriage at home there's a murder investigation on.

08:43 DaemonFC; I mean, come on.

08:43 DaemonFC; In America. No shit.

08:44 DaemonFC; What is this? The witch trials?

08:44 TR News; This Microsoft spam/trash is only published by cnx because of a 'gift'; Microsofters are polluting "Linux" sites https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/01/22/geekom-mini-it12-review-part-2-windows-11-pro-tested-on-an-intel-core-i7-12650h-alder-lake-mini-pc/

08:44 TR Bot; GEEKOM Mini IT12 review - Part 2: Windows 11 Pro tested on an Intel Core i7-12650H Alder Lake mini PC - CNX Software

08:45 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Yeah, then women and men get permanent sterilizing procedures. Because they don't dare risk it if they're smart.

08:45 schestowitz[TR]; if

08:45 schestowitz[TR]; and sober

08:45 DaemonFC; In the US, child support isn't as easy to run away from as putting lipstick on and calling yourself Britney.

08:45 schestowitz[TR]; i wanted to say more above

08:45 schestowitz[TR]; but never mind

08:45 schestowitz[TR]; you make it hard for me to focus on the links

08:45 schestowitz[TR]; let's talk tech

08:45 schestowitz[TR]; you mentioned some stuff about mandy

08:45 schestowitz[TR]; i gave my POV

08:46 schestowitz[TR]; let's get back to tech

08:46 schestowitz[TR]; not marcUS

08:46 DaemonFC; Stallman mentioned that having kids would make his life and their lives Hell.

08:46 schestowitz[TR]; he said many things

08:46 schestowitz[TR]; like how it worsens relationship

08:46 schestowitz[TR]; and makes iiit hard to accompish stuff

08:46 DaemonFC; It does. Like, anyone who is married needs help destroying the relationship.

08:46 schestowitz[TR]; because society says kids always come first

08:46 schestowitz[TR]; and you need to juggle some job to look after them

08:46 schestowitz[TR]; so not much gets done

08:46 DaemonFC; When you have kids and they're keeping you from sleeping all night.

08:47 DaemonFC; And then the cops are out because after 5 days without sleep you went crazy or something.

08:47 schestowitz[TR]; and eventually, even if you invvvet in them, you can end up with some criminal like Lozza

08:47 DaemonFC; I mean, then they point a camera on you and you're on COPS.

08:47 schestowitz[TR]; so the better option is, abort more

08:47 schestowitz[TR]; and maintain a society where imbeciles and thugs are not born

08:47 DaemonFC; And people are laughing at what's going on in your trailer and that the cops are going to beat you up and send you to court.

08:47 schestowitz[TR]; society does not bvenefit

08:47 schestowitz[TR]; and humanity is suffering more

08:47 schestowitz[TR]; they clog up public services

08:47 schestowitz[TR]; like couts and police

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; like his old boss needing to phone cops

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; biab

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; back to tech anyway

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; about mandy, see my take

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; it might help

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; do it in sight

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; it'll be appreicated more

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; women did loads around the home

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; when it was called "housewife"

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; like a job

08:48 schestowitz[TR]; childcare is VERY expensive

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; it's like you work a job and half as one parent just for something to look after 1.5 kid while you are out working

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; not inc. car costs

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; cause living closer to work is too expensive

08:49 DaemonFC; Yeah, it is. When my mom got a job, they were spending half of what she was making putting me in a daycare.

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; and you ahave mortgage payments

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; the women don't raise the kids

08:49 DaemonFC; And that daycare is a gun store now.

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; and nobody cooks means

08:49 DaemonFC; I swear it is.

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; so people eat food with chemicals, out of platic

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; not fresh, no cooking

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; no cooking skills either

08:49 schestowitz[TR]; no housewives

08:50 schestowitz[TR]; and no liost of choreeees

08:50 schestowitz[TR]; they get "helpers"a nd "cleaners"

08:50 schestowitz[TR]; for whom they work outside the home

08:50 schestowitz[TR]; they could just as well do the job themsleves

08:50 schestowitz[TR]; and gain skills

08:50 schestowitz[TR]; likke electrician and plumber-type skills

08:50 DaemonFC; Yeah, having a stay at home parent that cooks, cleans, and minds the children saves more money than them getting a job would bring in.

08:51 DaemonFC; My cousin is a nurse. Her husband stays at home with the kids.

08:51 schestowitz[TR]; many women worked aprt time

08:51 schestowitz[TR]; some women still do

08:51 schestowitz[TR]; but that too might be too much

08:51 DaemonFC; I have relatives that said "He should be ashamed of himself."

08:51 schestowitz[TR]; even if you have just two little brats

08:51 schestowitz[TR]; it's not just watching them

08:51 schestowitz[TR]; it's doing many other things at the same time

08:51 schestowitz[TR]; looking after kids is a job

08:52 schestowitz[TR]; mayyybe measured by savings

08:52 DaemonFC; I said, "For what? Cleaning the house? Sparing them daycare costs? Being a dad that is watching the kids instead of people at government school teaching the boy how to get a sex change? He's a great cook."

08:52 schestowitz[TR]; rather than income

08:52 schestowitz[TR]; fga

08:52 schestowitz[TR]; *familieis could eat good meals

08:52 schestowitz[TR]; not shit in plastic with preservatives

08:52 schestowitz[TR]; so a parent staying home worked too

08:52 DaemonFC; I said, "Seriously, have you ever been over to their house? It's clean, he cooks, the children are cared for and not being brainwashed by the government."

08:52 schestowitz[TR]; or part timing like my mom did and many moms did in 1980s and 90s

08:52 DaemonFC; "It's fucking idyllic. Leave him alone."

08:52 schestowitz[TR]; not the men's salaries are lower

08:52 schestowitz[TR]; per purchasing power

08:52 DaemonFC; And so by the time I said that, they shut up.

08:52 schestowitz[TR]; so "the kids aren't alright"

08:53 schestowitz[TR]; RMS says his mom had a bad relationship with him

08:53 schestowitz[TR]; and he wanted to get away

08:53 schestowitz[TR]; to MIT etc

08:53 DaemonFC; Yeah, the only answer is don't give the government any children.

08:53 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, his mom worked in some clerical job

08:53 schestowitz[TR]; and his dad was MIA

08:53 schestowitz[TR]; in the war or something

08:53 schestowitz[TR]; WW21

08:53 schestowitz[TR]; *2

08:53 DaemonFC; That's what you're doing. Killing yourself so the government can brainwash them and then send them off to war or prison or something.

08:53 schestowitz[TR]; so he probably didn't see her much

08:54 DaemonFC; It doesn't suit you.

08:54 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, he has a brother

08:54 DaemonFC; You'll be happier without them.

08:54 TR News; New Interview With Richard Stallman in the 'Exploring Antinatalism' Podcast (Very Personal Topics Covered) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/New_Interview_With_Richard_Stallman_in_the_Exploring_Antinatali.shtml

08:54 TR Bot; Techrights New Interview With Richard Stallman in the 'Exploring Antinatalism' Podcast (Very Personal Topics Covered)

08:54 TR News; Josh Bressers: Episode 412 Blame the users for bad passwords! https://opensourcesecurity.io/2024/01/21/episode-412-blame-the-users-for-bad-passwords/

08:54 TR Bot; Episode 412 Blame the users for bad passwords! Open Source Security

08:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I clean the apartment. If Mandy cooks I wash up. If I cook, I still usually wash up.

08:55 schestowitz[TR]; yes, i know

08:55 DaemonFC; He has more physical work. He's tired. He's been dealing with idiots all day.

08:55 schestowitz[TR]; you may be spending more than 8hrs a day

08:55 schestowitz[TR]; if you measure it

08:55 schestowitz[TR]; 7 days, 8 hours a day

08:55 schestowitz[TR]; or 168/7/3

08:55 schestowitz[TR]; about 6 a day

08:55 DaemonFC; Yeah, he doesn't handle any of the finances.

08:55 schestowitz[TR]; which is full time job

08:55 DaemonFC; It would be a catastrophe if he even tried.

08:55 schestowitz[TR]; 6 hours every day

08:56 schestowitz[TR]; 6 sleep, 6 chores, 12 other things

08:56 schestowitz[TR]; aka "life"

08:56 DaemonFC; I've been assembling our income tax filing again.

08:56 DaemonFC; I spent all week saving his job while he had the flu.

08:56 TR News; California and Oregon Ease Covid Isolation Rules, Breaking With C.D.C. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/21/us/covid-rules-california-oregon-cdc.html

08:56 TR Bot; California and Oregon Ease Covid Isolation Rules, Breaking With C.D.C. - The New York Times

08:56 DaemonFC; And running around town and dealing with the FMLA people.

08:56 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: put it to him like this

08:56 schestowitz[TR]; (i know i saiudwe'd cover tech)

08:56 schestowitz[TR]; 1) income

08:56 schestowitz[TR]; 2) savings

08:56 schestowitz[TR]; 3) life

08:56 schestowitz[TR]; (1) is just one component

08:57 schestowitz[TR]; savings (2) lessen the need for (1)

08:57 schestowitz[TR]; and you can then do (3)

08:57 DaemonFC; Yeah, I try to focus on maximizing passive streams of income.

08:57 schestowitz[TR]; which is really what couts as actually living

08:57 DaemonFC; Like rebates, interest income, other...

08:57 schestowitz[TR]; surviving and living is not the same

08:57 schestowitz[TR]; people hop on a bus at 7am to go to work to survive

08:57 DaemonFC; I mean if it's money and you didn't have to do anything for it really....

08:57 schestowitz[TR]; like "work liberates"

08:57 schestowitz[TR]; it does not liberate

08:57 schestowitz[TR]; it oppressed them

08:57 schestowitz[TR]; they get back home 7pm

08:57 schestowitz[TR]; and then what?

08:58 schestowitz[TR]; who did the clothes washing?

08:58 schestowitz[TR]; who bought dinner?

08:58 schestowitz[TR]; who cooked it?

08:58 DaemonFC; Oh, I wash the clothes.

08:58 schestowitz[TR]; cocacola and rolando [sic] mcdonals?

08:58 DaemonFC; It's a real process too.

08:58 DaemonFC; I set it up like that so I don't have to go to the laundromat.

08:59 schestowitz[TR]; what you said of your coiusin

08:59 schestowitz[TR]; that is jealousy

08:59 schestowitz[TR]; because they have a better routine

08:59 schestowitz[TR]; and it's "unfair"

08:59 DaemonFC; I estimate that I save at least $12-14 every week with my system of washing the clothes.

08:59 schestowitz[TR]; like people who took shitvaccine(TM)

08:59 schestowitz[TR]; they get uypset over those who opted out of the pfizer/bourla experiment

08:59 schestowitz[TR]; a failed experiment btw

08:59 schestowitz[TR]; because of envy

08:59 schestowitz[TR]; "if i get injured, why won't YOU TOO?"

08:59 DaemonFC; I called it on that one after it didn't work.

9 AM, January 22

09:00 DaemonFC; What changed my mind? EVIDENCE.

09:00 DaemonFC; That it didn't help me.

09:00 DaemonFC; That if I took another one it would just be further risk without benefit.

09:00 schestowitz[TR]; let me put it like this:

09:00 schestowitz[TR]; 1980s

09:00 schestowitz[TR]; you are adult now

09:00 schestowitz[TR]; your salary at IBM is $100 an hour

09:00 DaemonFC; You know, Matt is like Ken Ham.

09:00 schestowitz[TR]; by today's money

09:00 DaemonFC; The creationist, Ken Ham.

09:00 schestowitz[TR]; you might not want to wash your clothes

09:00 schestowitz[TR]; your spouse might

09:00 schestowitz[TR]; now?

09:01 schestowitz[TR]; the salaries are lower

09:01 DaemonFC; The moderator asked "What would change your mind?"

09:01 schestowitz[TR]; you can save more per hour then you earn

09:01 DaemonFC; Bill Nye says EVIDENCE!

09:01 schestowitz[TR]; so do the "saving thing"

09:01 DaemonFC; Ken Ham says "NOTHING!"

09:01 TR News; (NEW): MX Linux 23.2 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/MX_Linux_23_2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/MX_Linux_23_2.gmi

09:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines MX Linux 23.2

09:01 schestowitz[TR]; instead of earning enough to cver this expense you can overcome

09:01 schestowitz[TR]; like plumbers who charge 100 an hour

09:01 DaemonFC; People who are still on about the COVID vaccine after everything we've seen....are like a fucking Creationist with an Ark Experience in Kentucky.

09:01 schestowitz[TR]; or change your bike stuff

09:01 schestowitz[TR]; if you know how, it takes minutes

09:02 DaemonFC; They say they believe the world is a few thousand years old and created in 6 days.

09:02 schestowitz[TR]; and saves you a lot, plus travel to repair shops

09:02 DaemonFC; All the answers are in Genesis.

09:02 DaemonFC; And they get really mean if you say "Prove it!"

09:02 TR News; There's a Solar Eclipse Crossing The US in 2024 That Will Blow Your Mind https://www.sciencealert.com/theres-a-solar-eclipse-crossing-the-us-in-2024-that-will-blow-your-mind

09:02 TR Bot; a Solar Eclipse Crossing The US in 2024 That Will Blow Your Mind : ScienceAlert

09:02 DaemonFC; People who still believe in the COVID vaccine are like Ken Ham.

09:02 schestowitz[TR]; rianne's opinion

09:02 schestowitz[TR]; you need tyo remidn mandy

09:02 schestowitz[TR]; ewho organised the house

09:02 DaemonFC; It's fucking retarded but they are way too invested in it.

09:03 schestowitz[TR]; allm tthe financials, anything like that

09:03 schestowitz[TR]; some thinfgs are intangiables

09:03 schestowitz[TR]; and you need to mention those also

09:04 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I've done some repair work on my own car.

09:04 TR News; Digital Cultures 2023 year in review https://www.michigandaily.com/arts/b-side/digital-cultures-2023-year-in-review/

09:04 TR Bot; The most memorable digital moments of 2023

09:04 DaemonFC; I went "That was easy." "They wanted over $1,000 for THAT? I got the parts for $70 off Amazon."

09:04 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I watch car repair videos on YouTube.

09:04 schestowitz[TR]; you could get a "real job"

09:04 schestowitz[TR]; work 50 hours

09:05 DaemonFC; Get a real job. Work 50 hours. Pay some guy $70 to laugh at me and pretend to change my air filter.

09:05 DaemonFC; :)

09:05 schestowitz[TR]; earn less than enough to repair the car

09:05 schestowitz[TR]; so in effect working 50-70 hours to get that job done, by proxy

09:05 schestowitz[TR]; my bike got a puncture yesterday

09:05 schestowitz[TR]; i already have experience repairing it

09:06 schestowitz[TR]; shops doo that for about 20 pounds

09:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: The engine on the car runs great.

09:06 DaemonFC; My God was that thing a mess though.

09:06 schestowitz[TR]; I can replace the inner tube myself, a 10-minute job

09:06 DaemonFC; That old lady sure carboned that engine up bad.

09:06 schestowitz[TR]; and no need to go to the shop with bike or wheel

09:06 schestowitz[TR]; so I actually SAVE TIME and money

09:06 schestowitz[TR]; yesterday afternoon we fixed the washing machine

09:07 schestowitz[TR]; something had gone loose during the "snap"

09:07 schestowitz[TR]; but anyway

09:07 schestowitz[TR]; do it this way

09:07 schestowitz[TR]; make a list

09:07 schestowitz[TR]; of things done

09:07 schestowitz[TR]; and how much they would cost had you worked 8-65

09:07 DaemonFC; I had to clean carbon out of a lot of nooks and crannies by hand before I felt comfortable even using the carbon cleaning kit.

09:07 schestowitz[TR]; yes, 8-6

09:07 schestowitz[TR]; you don't teleport into work at 9am

09:07 DaemonFC; I was worried that I'd send more gunk straight into the engine and have a bigger problem if I didn't.

09:07 schestowitz[TR]; car repairs, food, cleaner

09:07 schestowitz[TR]; you know the caveat with cleaner

09:08 schestowitz[TR]; it's a stranger in your home all on his/her own

09:08 schestowitz[TR]; so any time you cannot find something you go,

09:08 schestowitz[TR]; "oh, shit, maybe s/he stole it"

09:08 schestowitz[TR]; very bad feeling

09:08 schestowitz[TR]; sometimes they DO steal

09:08 schestowitz[TR]; but you can never even prove it

09:08 schestowitz[TR]; all this so you can leave at 8am to sit in a pew

09:08 schestowitz[TR]; doing BS for someone else

09:09 DaemonFC; They make nanny cams.

09:09 schestowitz[TR]; free?

09:09 schestowitz[TR]; the cams?

09:09 DaemonFC; People put these in because they don't trust the people they hire.

09:09 schestowitz[TR]; the power?

09:09 schestowitz[TR]; maybe gulag can repair it

09:10 schestowitz[TR]; like he did in bathroom stalls ;-)

09:10 schestowitz[TR]; or in hotels

09:10 schestowitz[TR]; with other people's rooms

09:10 schestowitz[TR]; or e-scooters

09:10 schestowitz[TR]; gulag the camera cracxking man

09:10 schestowitz[TR]; downloads exploit codes from MS github

09:10 schestowitz[TR]; then goes rah rah rah... "shit"... "fuck"... lol, "FUCKING TRANSPHOBE"

09:11 schestowitz[TR]; "I will never commit a cyber crime"

09:11 schestowitz[TR]; [goes commits a crime]

09:11 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I don't trust the people in my building too much.

09:11 schestowitz[TR]; *commit

09:11 DaemonFC; I put a lot of locks on the doors for night time and during the day when I'm asleep.

09:11 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1qam6277#replies

09:11 TR Bot; Leaks from Red Hat on "Whiteness" and "Allyship" - post regarding Red Hat layoffs

09:12 schestowitz[TR]; "

09:12 schestowitz[TR]; " A black person may be hostile or bigoted, but racist in their materials is reserved for systemic racism."

09:12 schestowitz[TR]; Wrong! Racism is discrimination and prejudice against people based on their race or ethnicity. Regardless of YOUR race. Any race can be racist.

09:12 schestowitz[TR]; "

09:12 schestowitz[TR]; Even if caught on cam you need to press charges

09:12 DaemonFC; I figure they'd have to make a hell of a lot of noise and it would slow them down enough to remove the trigger lock and load my gun.

09:12 schestowitz[TR]; or report to police

09:12 schestowitz[TR]; better be there in person

09:12 schestowitz[TR]; and prevent

09:12 DaemonFC; You know, the home security system.

09:12 schestowitz[TR]; calling the police is, at best, just time-consuming

09:13 DaemonFC; Oh I'll have plenty of time if I ever have to call them again.

09:13 TR News; How to Harden Debian/Ubuntu/Rocky Desktop https://medium.com/@ed-roof-maker/how-to-harden-debian-ubuntu-rocky-desktop-63f81f7ecf78

09:13 TR Bot; to Harden Debian/Ubuntu/Rocky Desktop | by Ed Roof Maker | Jan, 2024 | Medium

09:13 DaemonFC; It'll be to show them the person who was stupid enough to try to break down my door and yes I do have a FOID Card.

09:16 DaemonFC; https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2309495?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article

09:16 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2309495?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article )

09:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Gates experimenting on African children again.

09:16 DaemonFC; > CONCLUSIONS

09:16 DaemonFC; > In this trial conducted in Burkina Faso, we found that administration of azithromycin to infants through the existing health care system did not prevent death. (Funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation; CHAT ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT03676764. opens in new tab.)

09:17 schestowitz[TR]; yes, they do that

09:17 schestowitz[TR]; https://jacobin.com/2020/04/bill-gates-foundation-philanthropy-microsoft

09:17 TR Bot; Bill Gatess Philanthropic Giving Is a Racket

09:17 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.business-standard.com/book/bill-gates-as-dubious-philanthropist-123111900806_1.html

09:17 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.business-standard.com/book/bill-gates-as-dubious-philanthropist-123111900806_1.html )

09:17 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_Critique/#2020

09:17 TR Bot; Gates Foundation Critique

09:18 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/o/2020/06/25/philanthropic-racism/

09:18 TR Bot; Philanthropic Racism (Clinical Trials/Experimentation on Live Subjects and Ethnic Cleansing as 'Public Good')

09:18 schestowitz[TR]; they still do "population control"

09:19 schestowitz[TR]; a gentler term than "eugenics"

09:19 schestowitz[TR]; who are they to decide?

09:19 schestowitz[TR]; gates is not even smart and never became rich

09:19 schestowitz[TR]; he was born rich

09:19 schestowitz[TR]; and his rich family set him up

09:19 schestowitz[TR]; then he committed more crimes

09:19 schestowitz[TR]; after his dad had TWICE released him from custody

09:20 schestowitz[TR]; rich allen jones could be a "bus boy":

09:20 schestowitz[TR]; not in ther traditional sense

09:20 schestowitz[TR]; just someone to throw under the buss

09:20 schestowitz[TR]; or to arizona

09:20 schestowitz[TR]; https://nypost.com/2021/05/10/bill-gates-womanizer-held-nude-pool-parties-biographer/

09:20 TR Bot; Bill Gates 'womanizer,' held nude pool parties: biographer

09:21 TR News; How A Steam Bug Once Deleted All Of Someone's User Data | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2024/01/20/how-a-steam-bug-once-deleted-all-of-someones-user-data/

09:21 TR Bot; A Steam Bug Once Deleted All Of Someones User Data | Hackaday

09:21 TR News; I revived three ancient computers with ChromeOS Flex, and you can too | ZDNET https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-revived-three-ancient-computers-with-chromeos-flex-and-you-can-too/ Source: ZDNet | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.zdnet.com/article/i-revived-three-ancient-computers-with-chromeos-flex-and-you-can-too/

09:21 TR Bot; revived three ancient computers with ChromeOS Flex, and you can too | ZDNET

09:22 TR News; "Smart" gimmicks with cracks onboard https://cybersecuritynews.com/bluetooth-flaw-hackers-takeover/

09:22 TR Bot; Bluetooth Flaw Let Hackers Takeover of iOS & Android Devices

09:23 TR News; "Convicted murderer, filesystem creator writes of regrets to Linux list" -Ars Technica, whose staff got convicted for raping kids http://techrights.org/wiki/Peter_Bright/

09:23 TR Bot; Peter Bright

09:23 DaemonFC; Living with his mother. Not even on the sex offender list. What gun charge?

09:23 DaemonFC; :P

09:23 TR News; "While Linux systems have a reputation for being svelte, you may find that youre suddenly running low on disk space. Why has this happened? The biggest clue, and possibly the biggest culprit, will be found in your Linux system logs." https://www.makeuseof.com/linux-disk-space-log-files/

09:23 TR Bot; Running Out of Disk Space on Linux? Check Your Logs!

09:23 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: his gun was not loaded

09:24 schestowitz[TR]; his unloaded his gun to CP

09:24 TR News; "To set a Default ACL entry on a directory, use the command 'setfacl -d -m u:username:rwx dirname'" https://www.howtogeek.com/how-to-use-filesystem-acl-on-linux/

09:24 TR Bot; How to Use Filesystem ACLs (Access Control Lists) on Linux

09:26 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/today_s_howtos.1.gmi

09:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

09:29 TR News; (NEW): Audiocasts/Shows: GNU World Order and Free Software Security Podcast http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Audiocasts_Shows_GNU_World_Order_and_Free_Software_Security_Pod.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Audiocasts_Shows_GNU_World_Order_and_Free_Software_Security_Pod.gmi

09:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines Audiocasts/Shows: GNU World Order and Free Software Security Podcast

09:31 TR News; (NEW): Music/Video Players: Memento and Nora http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Music_Video_Players_Memento_and_Nora.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Music_Video_Players_Memento_and_Nora.gmi

09:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines Music/Video Players: Memento and Nora

09:33 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Security_Leftovers.gmi

09:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers

09:44 TR News; A Tale of Two Nations gemini://thrig.me/blog/2024/01/22/tale-of-two-nations.gmi

09:44 TR News; Reflection on choosing the battles in a relationship gemini://satch.xyz/log/battles.gmi

09:45 TR News; "In hindsight, this was a very bad strategy. It immediately backfired, and she immediately found a new reason to not send me the photo: to avoid letting me have my way and winning the power struggle. Once I realized that this was the issue, I gave up, and agreed to talk to her, but explained why I really cared about her not hiding photos she doesn't like from me." gemini://satch.xyz/log/battles.gmi

09:46 TR News; "What the hell happened to laptop docks? We used to have these nice solid docks that we could put our business/workstation laptops into and hear a nice satisfying click or chunk. Once you heard your laptop snap into a dock you knew it was time for business!" gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/canfood/phlog/2024-01-21

09:47 TR News; My obsession gemini://obsessivefacts.com/fiction/2024-01-22-my-posession.gmi

09:48 TR News; Yesterday my husband pulled off the most incredible, thoughtful, beautiful surprise for my 30th birthday. He created a 35-minute short film documenting my life, including professional interviews of my family, kind testimonies from many of my friends, photos & home videos from my childhood and beyond" gemini://alioop.flounder.online/gemlog/2024-01-21.gmi

10 AM, January 22

10:09 TR News; Techrights [Teaser] [Meme] Doing Speed http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Teaser_Meme_Doing_Speed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Teaser_Meme_Doing_Speed.gmi

10:09 TR Bot; Techrights [Teaser] [Meme] Doing Speed

11 AM, January 22

11:26 *schestowitz[TR] back

11:26 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: did you try it?

11:34 TR News; (NEW): You Can Now Install Linux Kernel 6.7 on Ubuntu, Heres How http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/You_Can_Now_Install_Linux_Kernel_6_7_on_Ubuntu_Here_s_How.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/You_Can_Now_Install_Linux_Kernel_6_7_on_Ubuntu_Here_s_How.gmi

11:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines You Can Now Install Linux Kernel 6.7 on Ubuntu, Heres How

11:36 TR News; (NEW): MX Linux 23.2 Is Out with Linux Kernel 6.6, PipeWire 1.0, and Debian 12.4 Base http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/MX_Linux_23_2_Is_Out_with_Linux_Kernel_6_6_PipeWire_1_0_and_Deb.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/MX_Linux_23_2_Is_Out_with_Linux_Kernel_6_6_PipeWire_1_0_and_Deb.gmi

11:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines MX Linux 23.2 Is Out with Linux Kernel 6.6, PipeWire 1.0, and Debian 12.4 Base

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11:56 TR News; (NEW): Linux Mint 21.3 EDGE ISO Released with Linux Kernel 6.5 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Linux_Mint_21_3_EDGE_ISO_Released_with_Linux_Kernel_6_5.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Linux_Mint_21_3_EDGE_ISO_Released_with_Linux_Kernel_6_5.gmi

11:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Mint 21.3 EDGE ISO Released with Linux Kernel 6.5

1 PM, January 22

13:08 TR News; Techrights This New European Patent Office Report Shows That Liars, Cheaters and Corrupt Officials Rise Up to the Top (Those Are Key Prerequisites in the Age of Big Lies About Patent Quality) http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/This_New_European_Patent_Office_Report_Shows_That_Liars_Cheater.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/This_New_European_Patent_Office_Report_Shows_That_Liars_Cheat

13:08 TR Bot; Techrights This New European Patent Office Report Shows That Liars, Cheaters and Corrupt Officials Rise Up to the Top (Those Are Key Prerequisites in the Age of Big Lies About Patent Quality)

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13:28 TR News; Techrights [Meme] Rules of War http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Meme_Rules_of_War.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Meme_Rules_of_War.gmi

13:28 TR Bot; Techrights [Meme] Rules of War

13:29 TR News; "The obvious choice when hosting a personal or professional blog is Amazon AWS. Use one of many static site generators, upload the files to S3, create a CloudFront distribution, and get high speeds and stellar uptime." gemini://duncan.bayne.id.au/gemlog/self-hosting-and-planned-outages/

13:31 TR News; "E-Prime is a variant of English where you cant use is, am, are, was, or be. The name E-Prime means "a language derived from English"." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/e-prime

13:31 TR News; "The Gnome desktop seems to be removing more and more functionality, apparently in the name of aesthetics and simplicity. Unfortunately, they constantly make choices that are completely WRONG for the way I use computers." gemini://consp.org/blog/2024/2024-01-21-why-is-gnome-so-annoyingly-useless.gmi

13:32 TR News; "I've always had an interest in mass combat in tabletop games, but previously it's mostly been limited to abstract systems like GURPS Mass Combat, or mass combat in Savage Worlds" gemini://consp.org/blog/2024/2024-01-21-sudden-interest-in-wargames.gmi

13:33 TR News; "Recently, I noticed someone talking about putting all their emacs backups and autosaves in two directories, no matter where the file they are editing is located." gemini://consp.org/blog/2024/2024-01-21-putting-all-your-emacs-backups-and-autosaves-in-two-directories-has-security-implications.gmi

13:38 TR News; Techrights Gemini Links 22/01/2024: 30th Birthday Surprise and Gnome Deemed Useless http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Gemini_Links_22_01_2024_30th_Birthday_Surprise_and_Gnome_Deemed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Gemini_Links_22_01_2024_30th_Birthday_Surprise_and_Gnome_Deemed.gmi

13:38 TR Bot; Techrights Gemini Links 22/01/2024: 30th Birthday Surprise and Gnome Deemed Useless

13:45 TR News; (NEW): FreeBSD Developers Explore Rust Integration http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/FreeBSD_Developers_Explore_Rust_Integration.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/FreeBSD_Developers_Explore_Rust_Integration.gmi

13:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines FreeBSD Developers Explore Rust Integration

2 PM, January 22

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14:05 TR News; (NEW): GNU/Linux in UK (United Kingdom) and UKRAINE as Per 2024 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/GNU_Linux_in_UK_United_Kingdom_and_UKRAINE_as_Per_2024.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/GNU_Linux_in_UK_United_Kingdom_and_UKRAINE_as_Per_2024.gmi

14:05 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNU/Linux in UK (United Kingdom) and UKRAINE as Per 2024

14:11 TR News; (NEW): VirtualBox 7.0.14 Lets You Import and Export VMs with NVMe Storage Controllers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/16/VirtualBox_7_0_14_Lets_You_Import_and_Export_VMs_with_NVMe_Stor.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/16/VirtualBox_7_0_14_Lets_You_Import_and_Export_VMs_with_NVMe_Stor.gmi

14:11 TR Bot; Tux Machines VirtualBox 7.0.14 Lets You Import and Export VMs with NVMe Storage Controllers

14:21 TR News; Convert unix timestamp in seconds to readable date in MySQL / MariaDB https://www.mycomputertips.co.uk/368

14:21 TR Bot; Convert unix timestamp in seconds to readable date in MySQL / MariaDB, MariaDB Database

14:30 TR News; (NEW): Fractal 6: Linux Matrix Messaging App Adds Notification Settings and Improvements http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Fractal_6_Linux_Matrix_Messaging_App_Adds_Notification_Settings.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Fractal_6_Linux_Matrix_Messaging_App_Adds_Notification_Settings.gmi

14:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Fractal 6: Linux Matrix Messaging App Adds Notification Settings and Improvements

14:41 TR News; (NEW): Games: Computer and Video Game Archive, Valve, GStreamer, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/18/Games_Computer_and_Video_Game_Archive_Valve_GStreamer_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/18/Games_Computer_and_Video_Game_Archive_Valve_GStreamer_and_More.gmi

14:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Computer and Video Game Archive, Valve, GStreamer, and More

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3 PM, January 22

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15:18 TR News; Techrights Freenode 3 Years After the IRC Network's Collapse http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Freenode_3_Years_After_the_IRC_Network_s_Collapse.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Freenode_3_Years_After_the_IRC_Network_s_Collapse.gmi

15:18 TR Bot; Techrights Freenode 3 Years After the IRC Network's Collapse

15:18 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: quoted ^

15:21 TR News; "Government Debt in the United States increased to 34001494 USD Million in December" https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt keep calm and wonder what it means when the average taxpayer owes $260,000 in national debt and about $140,000 in household debt. You have a net salary of $400,000, right? RIGHT?

15:21 TR Bot; United States Government Debt

15:22 TR News; If the US was a real business, not just RUN LIKE A BUSINESS, it would be deemed insolvent already and investors pull the plug

4 PM, January 22

16:05 TR News; (NEW): My PDA at 20 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/My_PDA_at_20.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/My_PDA_at_20.gmi

16:05 TR Bot; Tux Machines My PDA at 20

16:06 TR News; (NEW): blendOS is the Swiss army knife of Linux distros but it's not for everyone http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/blendOS_is_the_Swiss_army_knife_of_Linux_distros_but_it_s_not_f.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/blendOS_is_the_Swiss_army_knife_of_Linux_distros_but_it_s_not_f.gmi

16:06 TR Bot; Tux Machines blendOS is the Swiss army knife of Linux distros but it's not for everyone

16:06 TR News; (NEW): Mozilla Firefox 122 Is Now Available for Download, Heres Whats New http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Mozilla_Firefox_122_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_Here_s_What_s.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Mozilla_Firefox_122_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_Here_s_What_s.gmi

16:06 TR Bot; Tux Machines Mozilla Firefox 122 Is Now Available for Download, Heres Whats New

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16:14 TR News; "Just pondering the idea of lean project management concepts in relation to the field of K-12 educational technology (ed-tech) operations in helping to increase operational value, improve work flow, and reduce waste." gemini://mlot.smol.pub/leanedtech

16:15 TR News; Robert gemini://njms.ca/gemlog/2024-01-22.gmi

16:55 MinceR; https://joeykelly.net/hacks/airlinewrench.jpg

5 PM, January 22

17:13 TR News; (NEW): 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: January 21st, 2024 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_January_21st_2024.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_January_21st_2024.gmi

17:13 TR Bot; Tux Machines 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: January 21st, 2024

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17:23 TR News; Techrights Dead-End Careers at the European Patent Office (EPO), Where Headcount Decreases and Rewards Continue to Decrease (Relative to Inflation) in 2024 http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Dead_End_Careers_at_the_European_Patent_Office_EPO_Where_Headco.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Dead_End_Careers_at_the_European_Patent_Office_EPO_Where_Headco.gmi

17:23 TR Bot; Techrights Dead-End Careers at the European Patent Office (EPO), Where Headcount Decreases and Rewards Continue to Decrease (Relative to Inflation) in 2024

17:31 MinceR; https://nitter.net/solarbrewer/status/1746679864545935582

17:31 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://nitter.net/solarbrewer/status/1746679864545935582 )

17:50 TR News; Techrights [Meme] IAM Says... (Joff on the Toilet, Never Saw a European Patent or EPO Money He Disliked) http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Meme_IAM_Says_Joff_on_the_Toilet_Never_Saw_a_European_Patent_or.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Meme_IAM_Says_Joff_on_the_Toilet_Never_Saw_a_European_Patent_or.gmi

17:50 TR Bot; Techrights [Meme] IAM Says... (Joff on the Toilet, Never Saw a European Patent or EPO Money He Disliked)

6 PM, January 22

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18:32 TR News; Techrights This Can Make Ukraine More Robust to Cracking by Russia and Belarus http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/This_Can_Make_Ukraine_More_Robust_to_Cracking_by_Russia_and_Bel.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/This_Can_Make_Ukraine_More_Robust_to_Cracking_by_Russia_and_Bel.gmi

18:32 TR Bot; Techrights This Can Make Ukraine More Robust to Cracking by Russia and Belarus

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18:44 DaemonFC; [1/22/24 5:26 am] <schestowitz[TR]> DaemonFC: did you try it?

18:44 DaemonFC; Try it? Sorry, my scrollback stopped there.

18:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Got a call from the doctor.

18:45 DaemonFC; The X-Ray of my arm isn't so great.

18:45 DaemonFC; The good news is it may be treatable. The bad news is that it's going to involve a lot of pain.

18:48 DaemonFC; My insurance covers the treatments so there's a very good chance that within a few months I may recover entirely.

18:49 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: "Wife and kids, household debt. Army green was no safe bet."

18:49 DaemonFC; :P

18:59 TR News; BT: Third Time Lucky? https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2024/01/22/bt-third-time-lucky/

18:59 TR Bot; Blog Archive BT: Third Time Lucky?

7 PM, January 22

19:00 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: p9oem8s'

19:00 schestowitz[TR];

19:00 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: like in the us?

19:00 DaemonFC; I did not understand that.

19:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: The BT thing?

19:01 schestowitz[TR]; yes

19:01 schestowitz[TR]; i mistyped the first time

19:01 schestowitz[TR]; my fingers s hit the wrtong keys

19:01 DaemonFC; Standard. They just tell you whatever gets you off the phone so they don't get punished by the evil eye for not "serving enough customers".

19:02 DaemonFC; Then when whatever they assured you wouldn't happen happens and you call back, you don't get them and it's a new customer support issue so the clock starts running again.

19:02 DaemonFC; It's what you get when Amazon or an ISP or someone has a policy that they have to serve x number of customers per hour.

19:02 DaemonFC; They end up getting people back 7-8 times over one problem and spending more money dealing with each problem.

19:03 DaemonFC; But Bezos makes several million dollars every minute and is very smart so of course pressuring them to get through customers fast is smart.

19:05 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I've worked places where they set the rate by timing how to do a job that was assembled in the worst order. Then when I reassembled the jobs and got them done twice as fast as my rate, I got bonus money, but then the managers started following me around because "We figured out how long it takes to do that job and you're cheating us somehow.".

19:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Then I thought "Well, the bonus pay does stop at 150% of rate. If I finish early and there's no more work at that job, then they make me sweep the floor or something at my base pay. So I'm going to go park my lift and take a nice long shit, savoring every minute on that job code until my rate for the week comes down to 150%. Then they pay me more and I get to mess around in the bathroom for a while and nobody yells at me for hitting 200%

19:06 DaemonFC; ."

19:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: At a certain point, you're working so fast that the only reward for more output is more work for less money while the managers insist that you're cheating them."

19:07 DaemonFC; So just go play around in the bathroom for a while.

19:08 DaemonFC; Then everyone else got mad at me because it got to be a pattern that every month I was at the top of the board for productivity out of over 300 workers.

19:09 DaemonFC; And I was racking up these wooden pog tokens that gave me an extra vacation day every month.

19:09 DaemonFC; So I banked them all on my employee file and took a 5 week vacation and 4 week sick pay payout when I left.

19:10 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: So they owed me 9 weeks PTO pay, 6 months unemployment, and 3 months severance.

19:10 DaemonFC; That's the only reason I made it through the 2008 recession without losing my home.

19:10 DaemonFC; Then at the end of the unemployment, it got extended.

19:10 DaemonFC; By a federal emergency declaration.

19:11 DaemonFC; I mean there wasn't SHIT out there.

19:11 DaemonFC; Nobody was hiring.

19:11 DaemonFC; McDonalds wasn't hiring. Nobody was hiring.

19:12 schestowitz[TR]; 2008 "recesion"

19:12 schestowitz[TR]; *ss

19:12 DaemonFC; It's very distressing to be on a program like that knowing that nobody is hiring and you have months left plus whatever you've saved.

19:12 DaemonFC; It is not a hammock. It causes panic attacks, lack of sleep, daytime drinking.

19:12 schestowitz[TR]; after which many families got a lot poorer

19:12 schestowitz[TR]; all this gig economy took off

19:12 schestowitz[TR]; and the rich quadrupled their wealth

19:13 schestowitz[TR]; maybe in 3 years we'll have trillionaires

19:13 schestowitz[TR]; because "HEY HI" something

19:13 DaemonFC; Almost certainly we will at some point.

19:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Walmart just announced new pay structures.

19:13 DaemonFC; Store managers get double their former salary.

19:13 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/

19:13 TR Bot; While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation

19:13 DaemonFC; Hourlies get another 50 cents.

19:14 DaemonFC; So you get another 50 cents while all the big boys watch their pay double.

19:14 DaemonFC; It was already obscene.

19:14 DaemonFC; An obscene level of money.

19:14 DaemonFC; The old structure could be upwards of half a million a year if you ran a good store.

19:14 DaemonFC; And no less than $150,000 if you ran a crummy one.

19:15 DaemonFC; This is very typical in America.

19:15 DaemonFC; Every year you get to watch a bunch of fat cats line up at the trough while you get "an inflation adjustment if you're lucky".

19:15 DaemonFC; They want you exactly where you are now and nowhere else.

19:16 DaemonFC; People who make half a million a year to saunter in and ride a desk all day don't need another penny.

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19:16 DaemonFC; But that doesn't stop it from turning into a million a year.

19:19 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Puerto Rico is weird.

19:19 DaemonFC; Gas is sold in liters. Road markers are in kilometers. But....speed limits are in miles per hour.

19:19 schestowitz[TR]; mincer downed by orban

19:19 DaemonFC; If you're going to do metric, do metric.

19:20 DaemonFC; How the hell are you supposed to look at a miles per hour speed limit, then the road is measured in kilometers, and figure out how many kilometers you'll make it in one hour at that speed without doing a conversion?

19:20 DaemonFC; I guess you can get used to anything, but that is so dumb.

19:21 DaemonFC; My car can switch between kilometers per hour and miles per hour using the same gauge. It's a computer driving the cluster. You put the car in metric and the odometers are in kilometers.

19:21 DaemonFC; In Puerto Rico, whichever you select is going to be wrong whether it's the speed limit or the mile markers.

19:22 DaemonFC; So you set it to miles I guess, so you won't get a speeding ticket.

19:23 DaemonFC; But Star Trek ages badly. Worse than the Eugenics Wars in 1996 is that throwaway line in Enterprise where they put Elon Musk next to the guy who invented the warp drive.

19:24 DaemonFC; Then Musk can't even figure out how to build the "hyperloop" tunnels and the company files bankruptcy.

19:24 TR News; 22nd January 2024 - Rivers of London Book Series gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/stug/phlog/20240122.txt

19:25 schestowitz[TR]; the main question is,

19:25 schestowitz[TR]; why did this company get any funds int the first place?

19:25 schestowitz[TR]; it's crock

19:25 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I could sit down and handle interviews about tech stuff better than Musk.

19:25 DaemonFC; He's flubbing everything he says and it's obvious.

19:25 schestowitz[TR]; he is not so good at tech

19:25 schestowitz[TR]; it's all posing

19:25 schestowitz[TR]; and posturing

19:26 schestowitz[TR]; ;ole looking a twitterrr hardwar

19:26 schestowitz[TR]; he is not a hardwware person

19:26 schestowitz[TR]; too busy impregnating women and then going to court to do custody battles

19:26 schestowitz[TR]; to actually keep abreast of hardware tech

19:27 schestowitz[TR]; and doing "photoshoots" with a sink in Twitter HQ

19:27 DaemonFC; One of his kids is a tranny.

19:27 DaemonFC; One of them who isn't disowned him and said they don't even want the inheritance.

19:27 schestowitz[TR]; "lol melon, U SO FUNNT!!":

19:27 DaemonFC; And so he makes more and more because hey, the world works on averages, right?

19:27 DaemonFC; If you can get one good one out of the batch, it makes up for the tranny and the one that said I hate you.

19:28 DaemonFC; Anyway, bbiab.

19:28 schestowitz[TR]; mincer awol

19:31 schestowitz[TR]; https://locusmag.com/2023/12/commentary-cory-doctorow-what-kind-of-bubble-is-ai/

19:31 TR Bot; Cory Doctorow: What Kind of Bubble is AI? Locus Online

19:31 schestowitz[TR]; "Of course AI is a bubble. It has all the hallmarks of a classic tech bubble. Pick up a rental car at SFO and drive in either direction on the 101 north to San Francisco, south to Palo Alto and every single billboard is advertising some kind of AI company. Every business plan has the word AI in it, even if the business itself has no AI in it. Even as two major, terrifying wars rage around the world, every newspaper ha

19:31 schestowitz[TR]; s an above-the-fold AI headline and half the stories on Google News as I write this are about AI. Ive had to make rule for my events: The first person to mention AI owes everyone else a drink."

19:34 TR News; The TikTokers Ousting Employers By Secretly Recording Layoffs https://tech.co/news/tiktokers-ousting-employers-recording-layoffs

19:34 TR Bot; The TikTokers Ousting Employers By Secretly Recording Layoffs

19:34 TR News; [EXCLUSIVE] Big Tech layoffs loom in Korea as furious workers revolt https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2024-01-22/business/industry/EXCLUSIVE-Big-Tech-layoffs-loom-in-Korea-as-furious-workers-revolt/1963248

19:34 TR Bot; [EXCLUSIVE] Big Tech layoffs loom in Korea as furious workers revolt

19:35 TR News; journalism

19:35 TR News; Lawmakers must ensure that preserving California journalism doesnt enable clickbait https://calmatters.org/commentary/2024/01/preserving-california-journalism-bill-clickbait/

19:35 TR Bot; Opinion | Preserving California journalism shouldn't enable clickbait

19:37 TR News; Spotify Struggles To Make A Profit, Why? https://www.channelnews.com.au/spotify-struggles-gaining-profit-despite-leading-in-steaming/

19:37 TR Bot; Spotify Struggles To Make A Profit, Why? channelnews

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10 PM, January 22

22:14 admfubar; https://arstechnica.com/?p=1997422

22:14 TR Bot; HP CEO evokes James Bond-style hack via ink cartridges | Ars Technica

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22:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: My therapist has the flu now.

22:48 DaemonFC; Everyone in her house has the flu.

22:49 DaemonFC; Everyone I know is either sick with the flu or COVID.

22:49 DaemonFC; Obviously the very durable immunity from the COVID shots, which may have even caused the calcification of the tendons in my arm, helped a lot.

22:50 DaemonFC; They figure that they can dissolve the calcium buildup with ultrasonic therapy.

22:52 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Everyone who got the clot shot is just supposed to ignore the bizarre and horrible things that happened to their health shortly thereafter.

22:52 DaemonFC; Needles in the eyes. Flesh to Stone.

22:52 DaemonFC; :P

22:53 DaemonFC; Keep getting more of them.

22:53 DaemonFC; Fuck around and find out.

22:54 DaemonFC; "Biden admits the border isn't secure."

22:54 DaemonFC; The only people even trying to stem the tide of trash here to crime against the Citizens and steal and file for welfare even though they've never paid any taxes is Governor Abbott of Texas.

22:55 DaemonFC; And Biden got the ruling that says he can rip out the fences and razor wire so he can finish flooding our once great country with criminals and scum before he gets voted out.

22:56 DaemonFC; I doubt that Biden will be able to easily rip out the border wall that Texas put up.

22:57 DaemonFC; It is on State-owned land and it's not in front of a river where the Administration can blame Texas that some idiot decided to drown in a river with her two children trying to break into a country where she didn't belong.

22:57 DaemonFC; (And was already dead and being pulled out of said river by Mexico before Border Patrol even asked to enter.)

22:58 DaemonFC; It would be much worse if the river wasn't there because then there would be no obstacle at all to slow them down in some parts.

22:59 DaemonFC; https://www.foxnews.com/tech/someone-something-snooping-your-computer

22:59 TR Bot; Is someone (or something) snooping on your computer? | Fox News

22:59 DaemonFC; LOL

22:59 DaemonFC; Yes, Microsoft is snooping on your computer, and Google and Apple.

11 PM, January 22

23:00 DaemonFC; "One telltale sign of a malware infection? Processes start on their own. Dont write it off if an app launches itself out of the blue."

23:00 DaemonFC; Yeah, things like fstrim.timer are super suspicious, you know.

23:00 DaemonFC; Processes that start on their own are always a bad sign.

23:00 DaemonFC; ;)

23:00 DaemonFC; "Say you only have a couple of apps that open when you start up your computer. If a different window briefly appears before flicking out of existence, it could be a spyware program loading. Theyre designed to disappear."

23:01 DaemonFC; Only the worst ones would even flicker in and close.

23:01 DaemonFC; Most of them have no GUI at all.

23:01 DaemonFC; > The Startup panel displays the apps installed on your machine. If Windows has measured the impact of that app on your PC, you will see a rating next to it. Options include No impact, Low impact, Medium impact, and High impact.

23:01 DaemonFC; > An app with a high impact can slow down your startup time. Go through the list and determine which apps you dont need immediately after startup. Toggle each slider next to the app to turn it on or off.

23:01 DaemonFC; ----

23:02 DaemonFC; Yeah, just kill everything with High Impact without knowing what it is. What's the worst that could happen?

23:02 DaemonFC; > A person dressed as an internet hacker is seen with binary code displayed on a laptop screen in this illustration photo taken in Krakow, Poland on August 17, 2021.

23:02 DaemonFC; > (Photo by Jakub Porzycki/NurPhoto via Getty Images)

23:02 DaemonFC; ----

23:02 DaemonFC; I'm starting to wonder about this guy with the hands in Poland.

23:03 DaemonFC; He's definitely up to something.

23:03 DaemonFC; MinceR: ^

23:03 DaemonFC; https://www.foxnews.com/health/norovirus-alert-fda-warns-contaminated-raw-oysters-mexico

23:03 TR Bot; Norovirus alert: FDA warns of contaminated raw oysters from Mexico | Fox News

23:04 DaemonFC; There was an episode of Mr. Bean where he ate raw oysters at an inn and got very sick.

23:04 DaemonFC; Why would anyone eat those?

23:04 DaemonFC; He ended up spending his entire vacation getting stuck sick in bed and then whenever he tried going up and down the stairs, some old person with a cane would get in front of him.

23:05 DaemonFC; So he ended up going over the side of the railing, walking past them and going back over just to get stuck behind another one.

23:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Until I can get in to see the surgeon about the Flesh to Stone, I'm having Mandy rub that shoulder.

23:10 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/health-2

23:10 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Health

23:16 DaemonFC; MinceR: Mandy is using the back massager on the cat.

23:16 DaemonFC; I mean, she's not complaining.

23:16 MinceR; :)

23:17 DaemonFC; Good food, vet visits, plenty of heat, a giant bag of foam to sleep on, massages.

23:19 DaemonFC; MinceR: I may need to turn in early. I had a parade of people waking me up including someone from Amazon buzzing the door.

23:19 MinceR; ok

23:20 DaemonFC; For some reason, everyone who is exempt from Do Not Disturb had a reason to call me.

23:21 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/long-keep-tax-documents-155808428.html

23:21 TR Bot; How Long Do I Have to Keep Tax Documents?

23:22 DaemonFC; Keeping them for a minimum of three years after the tax filing deadline (or your extension deadline if you got one) is wise.

23:22 DaemonFC; The IRS can go back six years if you substantially underreported or did something truly outrageous, but normally they have three.

23:24 DaemonFC; Even if you're sure the return is correct, it's best to minimize the time they have to open an audit for that year. So filing by the April deadline and not asking for an extension if you don't need one is wise.

23:24 DaemonFC; Not many people know it, but there's really no penalty if you need a few more days and don't request an extension, as long as they owe you a refund when you file.

23:24 DaemonFC; In that case, it would be better to just miss the deadline and then file and claim your refund.

23:25 DaemonFC; They have three years from the date you file or the deadline, whichever is later.

23:25 DaemonFC; So if you had requested an extension they'd have 3.5 years to audit but if you miss an April 18th deadline and file on May 1st and get a refund, there are no penalties for missing the deadline and they only have until May 1st three years later to audit it.

23:26 DaemonFC; Because your deadline, which you missed (with no penalty) was in April, not October.

23:27 DaemonFC; If you'd asked for the extension then even if you filed May 1st, they could audit until October 18th three calendar years later.

23:27 DaemonFC; So essentially all you do if you extend and get a refund, is give them additional months to pull that return.

23:27 DaemonFC; It benefits the taxpayer, so the IRS doesn't want people to know that.

23:28 admfubar; https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2024/01/ai-bots-on-x-twitter.html

23:28 TR Bot; Bots on X (Twitter) - Schneier on Security

23:28 DaemonFC; The government never wants you to know anything that benefits you.

23:28 DaemonFC; MinceR: ^

23:28 DaemonFC; :)

23:29 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ftc-turbotax-maker-deceived-customers-222304810.html

23:29 TR Bot; FTC: TurboTax maker deceived customers with free services

23:30 DaemonFC; The IRS is developing its own free filing service, finally.

23:30 DaemonFC; The tax preparation companies spent years trying to stop this.

23:30 DaemonFC; Because they upsell and upsell and many people spend over a hundred dollars even if they technically qualify for a free file program

23:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: The local news says they bagged a pedo that Google reported for uploading CP to his Drive account.

23:35 DaemonFC; It's good that they got him but even without knowing they do that, you should suspect that they would.

23:35 DaemonFC; I can't imagine why anyone would upload anything even possibly incriminating to a Google Drive, much less something that could send them to prison forever.

23:36 DaemonFC; It's not bad that they're going to seriously hurt this sick fuck.

23:36 DaemonFC; But what it shows is that nothing you upload to a "Cloud" storage drive is really private.

23:36 admfubar; https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=24/01/20/0639217&from=rss

23:36 TR Bot; Sports Illustrateds Entire Staff Told They are Getting Laid Off - SoylentNews

23:36 DaemonFC; They all scan, and if they scan for this, they can scan for anything else.

23:37 admfubar; https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=24/01/19/1053225&from=rss

23:37 TR Bot; Supply Chain Attack Via MS GitHub's Runner Images - SoylentNews

23:39 admfubar; https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=24/01/20/0851253&from=rss

23:39 TR Bot; What Happened to the US Machine Tool Industry? - SoylentNews

23:40 DaemonFC; I get Stallman saying families in the US are undesirable. I really do. You know, it is garbage in garbage out. When there's a lot of stress and frustration, it ends up coming out directed at your own family even when they're not the ones to blame.

23:40 DaemonFC; The government here isn't like the ones in Western Europe that do more to take that sort of pressure off of families.

23:41 admfubar; https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=24/01/19/0519200&from=rss

23:41 TR Bot; New Vapor Coating Technique Lets You Run A Computer Under Water - SoylentNews

23:41 DaemonFC; Stallman was wrong that there was "a lot more Socialism" in Europe in the 80s and 90s.

23:41 DaemonFC; The US had it too, but it generally came down from employers that had a "Japanese model", not a European one.

23:42 DaemonFC; You know, that is in Europe taxes are very high and a lot of the Socialism comes from the government.

23:43 DaemonFC; In the Japanese model, the corporate culture is they take care of their workers and they become company men and the company has the ideal that when the employee has a problem the company has a problem, but where it all went wrong in America is when the "What to do about the problem?" answer changed from "Help the employee by giving them resources." to "Kick them to the curb and immediately hire someone else." or "Just fire everyone and shift production

23:43 DaemonFC; to a third world hell hole where there are no labor or environmental laws."

23:43 DaemonFC; So by the early 2000s, the US model had almost completely shifted from the former to the latter.

23:44 DaemonFC; And now they don't even care if their employees are eating or can buy diapers for their children. They double the manager's salary, like Walmart is doing on February 1st, and train them to point everyone to the nearest welfare office.

23:45 DaemonFC; In every State in the country, I think, where there are a lot of Walmarts, Walmart is the number one employer by number of employees on Medicaid.

23:45 DaemonFC; And Walmart is a huge employer. They have like 2.5 million employees I think.

23:46 DaemonFC; So when that's your model for the rest of the country and not something like RCA where they paid for college tuition, healthcare, a pension, and so on and so forth....

23:46 DaemonFC; I don't know how things are where Stallman lives. I know that big cities that are expensive to live in tend to try to keep Walmart out.

23:47 DaemonFC; But that doesn't solve the problem. It just pushes it somewhere where they don't have to look at it.

23:47 DaemonFC; Walmart tried to figure out how to operate in Chicago and then gave up because no matter what their sales were they lost three times as much to crime and often had gang shootings going on in their stores.

23:48 admfubar; https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/22/eff_privacy_atlas/

23:48 TR Bot; EFF adds surveillance hub so Americans can check spying The Register

23:48 DaemonFC; Chicago is tricky because between the cost of living, the taxes, the fact that the politicians don't care if there are jobs, and the crime rate, they just can't run a business in that environment.

23:53 admfubar; https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/22/rust_project_burnout/

23:53 TR Bot; Rust is the latest open source project to face burnout The Register

23:53 admfubar; https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/22/haier_plugin_takedown/

23:53 TR Bot; Haier Europe sends takedowns over open source plugins The Register

23:56 admfubar; https://xkcd.com/2884/

23:56 TR Bot; Log Alignment

23:56 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2024/01/22/1226127366/tiktok-cuts-jobs-tech-layoffs-china

23:56 TR Bot; TikTok cuts jobs as tech layoffs continue to mount : NPR

23:56 DaemonFC; :)

23:57 DaemonFC; "So far in 2024, there have been more than 10,000 tech jobs shed, according to tech job tracker site layoffs.fyi. It follows 2023, which was a punishing year for the tech industry, seeing the elimination of some 260,000 jobs in the tech sector, the highest reduction in tech jobs since mass terminations fueled by the pandemic."

23:58 DaemonFC; Merry Christmas! Shitter was full!

23:58 DaemonFC; MinceR: ^

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