IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, March 14, 2022

beginning of new day, March 14

00:00 XRevan86; Does he imagine himself as an international pacifier?

00:01 tr_guest|85; i think hes angle is to make others think is a ravenous mad man that could dladlly nuck the world if they tryed anything

00:05 XRevan86; "Mr Putin, I ask you not as a genius but as a friend, bestest friend, don't invade Ukraine, O.K.?"

00:06 XRevan86; And after that, world peace.

00:07 kingoffrance; that was thomas watson remember the golden rule fuehrer!

00:08 tr_guest|85; world peace?

00:08 tr_guest|85; bussiness as usual

00:08 TR News; Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XIX The Collapse of Team Mono | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/team-mono-toxic-legacy/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/13/team-mono-toxic-legacy/

00:08 TR Bot; Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XIX The Collapse of Team Mono | Techrights

00:08 kingoffrance; through world trade. i guess they 180ed this time

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00:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 42.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.83

00:11 kingoffrance; https://www.ibm.com/ibm/history/ibm100/us/en/icons/ibmworldtrade/

00:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ibm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ibm.com/ibm/history/ibm100/us/en/icons/ibmworldtrade/

00:11 TR Bot; - The Creation of the World Trade Corporation

00:12 kingoffrance; they were crystallized into organizational form in 1949, when he established the IBM World Trade Corporation, a subsidiary of IBM with its headquarters near the United Nations in New York City

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00:26 kingoffrance; so basically it failed so they decided to crystallize it

00:27 kingoffrance; you have to reward yourself

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00:34 TR News; What We Need to Remind Ourselves of (and Tell the FSF About Microsofts GitHub and Copilot) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/real-story-behind-copilot/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/13/real-story-behind-copilot/

00:34 TR Bot; What We Need to Remind Ourselves of (and Tell the FSF About Microsofts GitHub and Copilot) | Techrights

00:37 TR News; IPFire Hardened Open-Source Linux Firewall Is Now Powered by Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162507

00:37 TR Bot; IPFire Hardened Open-Source Linux Firewall Is Now Powered by Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS | Tux Machines

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00:42 TR News; Another year has passed and one has to wonder if the Zemlin-led PAC is having trouble with the IRS http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/linux-foundation-irs-filings/

00:42 TR Bot; Its Almost Spring 2022 and Linux Foundations Latest Available IRS Filing is From 2018, Over 90% of the Budget Goes to US | Techrights

00:43 TR News; Linux.com has become a void under the stingy and self-harming Linux Foundation Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/magnetic-repulsion-by-linux-foundation-opposite-charge/ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/13/magnetic-repulsion-by-linux-foundation-opposite-charge/

00:43 TR Bot; How to Kill Linux.com: Put This Guy in Charge | Techrights

00:43 TR News; Although much of Team Mono no longer works directly for Microsoft, we shall have to remove what it installed inside Microsoft; this includes Copilot, basically a plagiarism tool http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/team-mono-toxic-legacy/

00:43 TR News; The Free Software Foundation (FSF) is well aware of the threat posed by Copilot (a misleading misnomer with hype and false promises), but there are internal Microsoft stories that the FSF needs to take into consideration as well http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/real-story-behind-copilot/

00:47 CrystalMath; MinceR: right now i feel intense pain in two parts of my body

00:47 CrystalMath; a tooth and the stomach

00:47 CrystalMath; i guess this is what it's like to live in a multipolar world? :P

00:47 schestowitz-TR2; why?

00:47 MinceR; lol

00:47 MinceR; consult a medical doctor

00:48 schestowitz-TR2; MinceR: not funny actually

00:48 MinceR; schestowitz-TR2: the multipolar one?

00:48 schestowitz-TR2; doesn't sound like symtom of virus

00:48 schestowitz-TR2; the tooth part

00:48 CrystalMath; i did tell it as a joke, multipolar world :P

00:48 CrystalMath; but hey i actually do prefer it to a singular source of pain, really

00:48 XRevan86; https://nitter.eu/kamilkazani/status/1502673952572854278 all state secrets are out just like that.

00:48 TR Bot; Kamil Galeev (@kamilkazani): "Why Russian army is so weak? When Russia invaded, experts thought it'd win in 24-72 hours. Two weeks later the war's still going. How come? On paper Russian superiority's overwhelming Although Russia projects warlike image, its military r weak and don't know how to fight wars" | nitter

00:49 schestowitz-TR2; "ready da nuke!"

00:49 DaemonFC; https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/03/13/world/ukraine-russia-war/tens-of-thousands-of-russians-are-fleeing-their-country-losing-hope-as-war-unfolds

00:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/03/13/world/ukraine-russia-war/tens-of-thousands-of-russians-are-fleeing-their-country-losing-hope-as-war-unfolds

00:49 TR Bot; Ukraine Live Updates: Russia Strikes Western Ukraine in Lethal Attack - The New York Times

00:49 MinceR; it's ok, they should just go the fuck home

00:49 DaemonFC; "Tens of thousands of Russians are fleeing their country, losing hope as war unfolds."

00:49 MinceR; and then go to the Hague when they're summoned

00:49 DaemonFC; It was like I was seeing the Soviet Union, Ms. Borodulina said of her last days in Moscow. I was thinking that the people who left the Soviet Union in the 1920s probably made a better decision than those who stayed and then ended up in the camps.

00:49 schestowitz-TR2; XRevan86: can they lob an ICBS beyond the border of Russia itself?

00:49 schestowitz-TR2; ICBM

00:50 MinceR; hopefully none of their warheads work anymore

00:50 schestowitz-TR2; they can rope putin onto one of the missiles

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00:50 schestowitz-TR2; the stench alone would kill millions upon impact

00:50 MinceR; they shouldn't

00:50 MinceR; putler should be tried and publicly executed

00:51 MinceR; in part, as a warning to winnie the pooh and rocket man

00:51 schestowitz-TR2; poo and kim don't mind dying

00:51 schestowitz-TR2; it's in their culture

00:51 MinceR; and to the rest of the authoritarian scum

00:52 MinceR; it should be done in such a way that they will mind dying in that way

00:52 MinceR; it's obviously the only thing their tiny, rotten minds can comprehend

00:52 CrystalMath; MinceR: that should happen to Trudeau and Biden instead

00:52 CrystalMath; oh well, you know how i feel

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00:52 MinceR; whom have those invaded lately?

00:52 MinceR; which nuclear power plants have they set on fire?

00:53 CrystalMath; North Korea like never invaded anyone

00:53 MinceR; how many people have they threatened with nuclear bombing?

00:53 MinceR; north korea routinely threatens the people of south korea and japan

00:53 schestowitz-TR2; [00:53] <CrystalMath> North Korea like never invaded anyone

00:53 schestowitz-TR2; LOL

00:53 MinceR; but i guess those people don't matter to you because they aren't owned by a dictator

00:53 schestowitz-TR2; the south

00:53 schestowitz-TR2; read up on how the war started

00:53 CrystalMath; schestowitz-TR2: it was a civil war, that's when the north formed

00:53 matey; im hoping to understand the latest github piece

00:54 matey; let me start with the part i agree with...

00:54 matey; ending nat friedmans career probably isnt a bad thing-- if it helps do that, great

00:54 matey; my confusion is the part about github itself

00:54 schestowitz-TR2; it was against his will

00:55 schestowitz-TR2; github is failing

00:55 schestowitz-TR2; no money

00:55 schestowitz-TR2; no azure integration

00:55 MinceR; MICROS~1 ran out of money?

00:55 schestowitz-TR2; as it would drive away users in droves

00:55 schestowitz-TR2; and scandals aplenty

00:55 MinceR; did zenimax cost too much?

00:55 schestowitz-TR2; people leave regardless

00:55 schestowitz-TR2; many staff and users

00:55 schestowitz-TR2; give it another 5-10 yeasrs

00:55 schestowitz-TR2; codeplex 2.0

00:55 matey; yeah its the scandals my question is about-- specifically the idea put forth in the most recent article (and maybe the overall theme along similar lines)

00:55 matey; yeah you keep saying codeplex 2.0

00:56 schestowitz-TR2; they tried "microsoft loves linux""

00:56 matey; the fact that github exists kind of suggests that codeplex has become successful

00:56 schestowitz-TR2; for 3 years before the takeover

00:56 MinceR; huh?

00:56 matey; now its linux loves github

00:56 MinceR; how does it suggest that?

00:56 schestowitz-TR2; which they had planned a year earlier than the lies campaign

00:56 MinceR; if codeplex was successful, there would have been no motivation for MICROS~1 to buy shithub

00:56 schestowitz-TR2; [00:56] <matey> the fact that github exists kind of suggests that codeplex has become successful

00:56 schestowitz-TR2; that's a crazy thing to say

00:56 schestowitz-TR2; it's like saying,

00:56 schestowitz-TR2; my dad died

00:57 schestowitz-TR2; my mom married someone else

00:57 schestowitz-TR2; so that proves my dad was successful

00:57 matey; its more like saying that nt is a better operating system than dos.

00:57 matey; but that depends who you ask

00:57 matey; either way id like github to fold as soon as possible

00:57 MinceR; well, it's like saying that in that both sentences are false

00:57 matey; the idea in the article however...

00:57 matey; is that we should tell the fsf the rest of whats bad about github, right?

00:58 MinceR; NT is a massive, horrendous, bloated train wreck of a design

00:58 schestowitz-TR2; fsf needs to know the background info

00:58 schestowitz-TR2; not just ignore it

00:58 schestowitz-TR2; like it landed off the moon

00:58 schestowitz-TR2; I spoonfeed the story

00:58 MinceR; DOS is hardly even an OS, but at least it doesn't do much and it can load a real OS in its own place

00:58 matey; no argument there, mincer

00:58 schestowitz-TR2; or how copilot came about

00:58 schestowitz-TR2; and what it was for

00:58 MinceR; plus when it crashes, it can boot quickly

00:58 MinceR; by the time you get task manager to start, DOS has already rebooted and given you a prompt

00:59 matey; mincer, neither one of us likes microsoft or their crapware

00:59 matey; they are simply hard to eradicate from the market, thats my point

00:59 matey; since this is about getting rid of github, not disliking its features...

00:59 MinceR; they will probably be eradicated along with the market and the human species itself :>

1 AM, March 14

01:00 matey; is it too much to want github to go first?

01:00 MinceR; \_()_/

01:00 matey; anyway, suppose we tell the fsf the rest of the story

01:00 matey; suppose they read the entire github expose out loud at libreplanet. everybody knows.

01:00 MinceR; the Useless Foundation doesn't care

01:00 matey; mincer thats my point

01:01 matey; but youre skipping the fun part

01:01 MinceR; they don't mind systemd, they don't mind ibm, they don't mind corporate SJW troll armies

01:01 matey; exactly

01:01 matey; and i was going to mention the sjw (social chauvanist is the LEFT wing term for what theyre doing) troll armies

01:01 matey; im not offended by the term sjw, but its notable that the left also dislikes them traditionally

01:02 matey; because they tend to destroy everything

01:02 matey; including real progress

01:02 MinceR; i've never encountered the "social chauvinist" term before

01:02 matey; its a very old term

01:02 matey; these people ahve been around for 100 years

01:03 MinceR; afaik SJW is SJW's own term for themselves, used mockingly

01:03 MinceR; s/'s/s'/

01:03 matey; i dont know, people appropriate slurs all the time-- mormon was a slur first, then they adopted it for themselves

01:03 matey; i dont know which came first

01:04 MinceR; ic

01:04 matey; anyway, suppose we tell the fsf-- i mean, i want to be sure i have this right-- all the scandals about the people who started github right?

01:04 matey; thats the idea?

01:05 matey; if thats the idea, i want to compare that idea to the pattern of what actually happens in practice

01:05 matey; take gnome

01:05 matey; (please)

01:05 matey; gnome and the gnome foundation were heavily involved in the rms ousting

01:05 matey; but molly and neil are gone now, so everythings cool

01:06 matey; thats all it takes-- everythings cool now (note i dont agree with that, im cynically stating how things clearly are to most people)

01:06 MinceR; \_()_/

01:06 matey; most people arent leaving gnome over what they did to rms (if they are, thats awesome)

01:06 matey; because once the baddies step down, everythings cool

01:06 MinceR; the Useless Foundation is even OK with using an IRC network that is run in part by people who tried to cancel RMS and the board of the Useless Foundation

01:06 matey; thats not my only example-- bring in the sjw army

01:07 matey; we already agree on the useless foundation, theyre done

01:07 matey; no credibility-- i still support rms

01:07 matey; but hes happy to go down with that ship

01:07 MinceR; RMS doesn't seem to be doing anything either anymore

01:07 matey; i know

01:07 matey; it sucks

01:08 matey; doesnt seem to be much for a replacement either

01:08 matey; nor is there a better organisation as an alternative (which doesnt mean the fsf is useful)

01:08 matey; but like some people would support the sfc-- hahaha, no.

01:09 matey; my point wrt the story is, after stallman resigned/"resigned"/whatever

01:09 matey; that was good enough for most people who hated him to involve themselves further-- some left for good

01:09 MinceR; lol @ sfc

01:09 matey; others are like, okay, i guess we still have libreplanet

01:09 matey; for most people, stallman resigning was good enough for them

01:10 matey; once the "baddie" (""baddie"") is out, no problem

01:10 matey; so gnome fans that like rms are content that neil and molly left

01:10 matey; fsf fans who hate rms are content that rms left (until he came back)

01:10 matey; what makes github exceptional? why will anyone care about nat friendman scandals (vis a vis github itself) after hes left?

01:11 TR News; 5 Reasons to Use the Linux Desktop Instead of WSL Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162508

01:11 TR Bot; 5 Reasons to Use the Linux Desktop Instead of WSL | Tux Machines

01:11 matey; i can think of a reason. but theres still a point in skewering nat, just saying its not likely to affect github (unless it does-- but it probably wont)

01:11 matey; its worth a try i guess.

01:11 matey; it would simply fly in the face of how most people dont care once the baddies have resigned

01:12 matey; bill gates resigned from microsoft (or pretended to because ballmer and nadelly like him) but even a faked resignation made most people happy

01:12 matey; unless they hated microsoft anyway. if you hate it anyway, he doesnt even have to resign.

01:13 matey; short version: if you hate github and dont want it anyway, the scandals matter. if you dont hate github, nothing changes because resignation makes most people happy

01:15 matey; the fsf certainly isnt going to care about this. it goes against the kind guidelines to even talk about it.

01:16 matey; and the fsf never does anything without a rationale-- if they cant talk about the reason, they cant do anything.

01:16 TR News; Former Debian Project Leader: "Livejournal has become more commercial and has been less associated with my community values. I never left during the mass exoduses around TOS changes because while I saw things changing, the worst terms seemed in response to government regulation rather than the choices of the company." https://hartmans.livejournal.com/101026.html

01:16 TR Bot; Migrating to Dreamwidth - Ponderings LiveJournal

01:20 matey; an article about how the fsf cant do anything because it cant even talk about problems without being doubleplusungood would be great

01:21 TR News; Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: GPL, Steam, GNU, and Security Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162509

01:21 TR Bot; Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: GPL, Steam, GNU, and Security | Tux Machines

01:22 schestowitz-TR2; matey: we did that many times before

01:22 matey; i wish i remember what venue or code of conduct was violated by someone saying things that werent "nice" about some corporation. i know it wasnt the fsf

01:22 matey; matey: we did that many times before <- i guess its fine now, or youd still be doing that

01:23 matey; what i do know is that in irc, people arent shy to talk about the real state of the fsf

01:23 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/03/11/zoe-kooyman-libreplanet-speech/

01:23 TR Bot; Zo Kooyman: Its Important to Listen to Community Members About What They Think the FSF Should Focus on | Techrights

01:23 matey; 2020?

01:23 matey; i realise you just ran it again

01:23 matey; rms wasnt even there at the time

01:23 matey; i mean officially he wasnt

01:23 schestowitz-TR2; yes

01:23 schestowitz-TR2; for the first time

01:24 schestowitz-TR2; this year is the second time

01:24 schestowitz-TR2; but he came to the anniversary thing toi give a talk that same year

01:24 matey; oh it stands out like a sore thumb, the absence

01:24 schestowitz-TR2; 2020

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01:24 matey; in libreplanet-discuss theyre having a jolly time "acting natural" about it

01:24 matey; even dora joked but i thought it was a clever way to say how things really are

01:25 matey; "my guess is they simply forgot to invite him"

01:25 matey; she could be british with that sense of humour

01:26 matey; it reminded me of a joke rms himself might make

01:26 matey; but he came to the anniversary thing toi give a talk that same year <- thats good

01:27 matey; i think someone from fsfla might do a lightning talk (if hes "allowed") about how cutting stallman out is very unfortunate, or something related to that

01:28 schestowitz-TR2; alkex did have a plan like that

01:28 schestowitz-TR2; and they feared he would go off script

01:29 matey; good, im thinking of another fsfla person though

01:29 matey; oh you mean a year or something ago

01:29 matey; yeah, the fsf made new rules because of him

01:29 matey; im not impressed with those

01:30 matey; i should say they werent necessarily because of him-- maybe someone else on the board acted as a whistleblower too

01:30 matey; if so they didnt blow hard enough for me to hear them, but hes not necessarily the only one

01:30 matey; can anyone name an organisation where a new anti-whistleblower policy was a sign of progress?

01:40 schestowitz; three-letter agencies

01:40 schestowitz; in the US of A

01:40 schestowitz; but it's not how you put it

01:40 schestowitz; they just said,

01:40 schestowitz; ask the FSF to check communications first

01:40 matey; im not cynical enough to use "three letter agencies" and "progress" in the same sentence

01:40 schestowitz; to ensure they control the message from the board

01:40 schestowitz; to limit damage to reputation

01:41 matey; ask the fsf to control the whistleblowing message?

01:41 schestowitz; nobody said this was progress

01:41 schestowitz; and afaik they prefilter RMS political notes

01:41 matey; thats awful

01:41 matey; im not he has no faults, i think everybody does

01:41 matey; not saying he

01:42 matey; im just saying theres no one more qualified

01:42 matey; as to whether he needs a replacement, sure unless he can live into his hundreds

01:42 matey; plural

01:43 matey; these days if you try to measure his qualifications against anyone else they dismiss it as "hero worship"

01:43 matey; thats the cool new way of saying "credit credit where credit is due"

01:43 matey; "hero worship"

01:44 matey; because we arent cool if we defend him, there are so many other people you know

01:44 matey; like um...

01:45 matey; like zoe

01:45 matey; i guess

01:46 matey; my guess about zoe, is that we will never really know what shes like

01:46 matey; anyone who sits as executive director is going to be more like the position than the person

01:47 matey; kuhn was the first one. so tell me at which point you would have replaced stallman with the executive director and been better off

01:48 matey; the biggest problem is this: they brought back stallman to softban / shadowban anyone like him

01:48 matey; if anyone like him does crop up

01:49 matey; they wont fit anymore. its like that port is...

01:49 matey; whats the part of a cell membrane that acts as a "port" for specific proteins?

01:50 matey; that avenue is closed off

01:50 schestowitz-TR2; well, the issue is not the person

01:50 schestowitz-TR2; it's the viewpoint of "the world"

01:50 schestowitz-TR2; on his views

01:50 schestowitz-TR2; on software

01:50 schestowitz-TR2; but they nitpick on compltely unrelated topics

01:51 matey; that they do

01:51 matey; actually to be fair-- i dont think theyre entirely unrelated

01:51 matey; but

01:52 matey; basically theyre given such weight that free software itself ends up in the backseat

01:52 matey; which is just too convenient for people trying to destroy the movement

01:52 matey; the best part is, you dont even need people who actually want to destroy it

01:52 matey; you can send in the sjws as pawns and shock troops

01:53 matey; and they think its victory

01:53 schestowitz-TR2; i thought you said sjvn

01:53 schestowitz-TR2; sjvn is among the corpoorate forces

01:53 matey; i suppose the shoe fits

01:53 schestowitz-TR2; funded by microsoft, ibm, lf...

01:53 schestowitz-TR2; in zdnet

01:53 matey; sjvn is on the same side as the sjws

01:54 matey; though i dont think of him as an sjw per se

01:55 matey; i like to think hes a bit old for that

01:55 matey; but youre never too old to sell out

01:57 matey; even if he only reads the top two lines, this should amuse mincer to no end https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/

01:58 TR Bot; Left-Wing Communism: an Infantile Disorder

01:58 matey; it was actually lenin that complained about "social chauvanists" in the early 1900s

01:58 matey; and the "ultra-left"

01:59 matey; these are the same people wrecking the fsf today. note that i distinguish the left from these people.

01:59 matey; its not right vs left in this instance

01:59 MinceR; damn, lenin's writing is boring

01:59 matey; its progressive left vs so far left that the universe implodes

01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 13.96 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.85

01:59 MinceR; it's soporific

01:59 matey; damn, lenin's writing is boring <- his youtube channel is even worse

01:59 MinceR; i guess he learned it from marx

2 AM, March 14

02:00 MinceR; who wrote a thick book that's mostly just reiterations of the labor theory of value

02:00 matey; it's soporific <- this is the difference between phd baristas and leaders of workers. the latter care about accessibility

02:00 MinceR; which was lenin?

02:00 matey; i dont know if he worked as a barista.

02:00 MinceR; :>

02:01 MinceR; 14 030013 <@MinceR> who wrote a thick book that's mostly just reiterations of the labor theory of value

02:01 MinceR; ...well, as far as i can tell

02:01 matey; my point of course is that he complained about sjws as destroyers of progress

02:01 MinceR; i couldn't make myself read it beyond a bunch of chapters

02:01 matey; youve read more lenin than i have then

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02:02 matey; today we think of the right as being the people who complain about this sort of person

02:02 matey; of course daemonfc doesnt like him

02:02 matey; i think its hilarious that lenin and daemonfc agree on this

02:02 matey; but they really should

02:03 MinceR; i mean, chapters of the capital by marx

02:03 MinceR; i haven't read much by lenin, and it looks like i won't

02:03 matey; i tried reading das kapital

02:03 matey; a lot of people make it farther than 2 pages

02:04 matey; i havent yet

02:05 TR News; The Patent Distortion: EPO Crimes Completely Overlooked and Totally Unrecognised/Not Covered This Past Week (in News Sites, Blogs, and More) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/the-patent-distortion-part-5/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/13/the-patent-distortion-part-5/

02:05 TR Bot; The Patent Distortion: EPO Crimes Completely Overlooked and Totally Unrecognised/Not Covered This Past Week (in News Sites, Blogs, and More) | Techrights

02:05 matey; the best way to read lenin is to have people quote him

02:05 matey; of course most of the time thats a disaster of taking him out of context

02:05 MinceR; the best way to read lenin is not to read lenin

02:06 MinceR; "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."

02:06 matey; "imagine" was very marxist, but it was more lennonist

02:07 MinceR; ah, yes, vladimir ilyich lennon

02:08 matey; the best part is that trotsky and daemonfc come to very similar conclusions in very different contexts

02:08 matey; and youll think im saying this just to tease him, but its absolutely true

02:09 matey; first of all, they both believe that people should be armed, but thats not my point in the comparison

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02:11 matey; the real point is that according to trotsky, left opportunists will always lead us to an oppressive and bureaucratic state apparatus that breakst he backs of workers to make things comfortable for-- pretty much what daemonfc says, without the stuff about racial minorities

02:12 matey; in other words, trotsky would have agreed with him on the bulk of the problem

02:13 matey; anything that leads to stalinism is a disaster on a scale of devastation

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02:14 matey; and the tactics that change revolutions like free software into counterrevolutions like the ussr?

02:14 matey; those are the ones you see taking over free software today

02:15 matey; all the organisational maneuvering, the little things are the most important and the most important things are the least important?

02:15 matey; its counterrevolution everywhere. but the ultra-left always thinks theyre making progress

02:16 matey; not unlike when politicians try to make copyright more extreme and they just drive it farther underground

02:16 matey; they try to stop copying and people just find more ways around it

02:17 matey; meanwhile the fsf is... i mean people can see it.

02:17 matey; they can sort the deck chairs alphabetically, by date, filesize or sha256 it doesnt matter

02:19 matey; the people who made the revolution happen were the ones most likely to stand up to stalin

02:19 matey; so he simply got rid of them all

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02:20 matey; but again, this is what happened to the fsf

02:20 matey; not in any small way, detail for detail its pretty incredible

02:20 matey; obviously english is still different from russian

02:21 matey; boston is still (mostly) different from eastern europe

02:21 kingoffrance; i always mention "unity of opposites" (look up on wikipedia, and engles wrote a bit, have not read) just because you see it everywhere. that was "all men are created equal" quantity transforming into quality (i am not advocating "monarchy" or saying which is lead and which is gold) ...just history is not going to teach such things, from any "angle"

02:21 matey; the big dig could have been stalin though, if he had still been around

02:21 kingoffrance; i mean, there are more parallels...

02:22 matey; not to try to stop you, but im more interested in your rants about "ppp"

02:22 matey; i think they apply to the fsf as well

02:22 kingoffrance; but probably few ppl want to think of america as a "marxist revolution" lol either that doesnt fit their idea of it, or it was land owners and not proletariat, etc.

02:22 matey; though youd know better than i do how

02:22 kingoffrance; im just happy you quoted that lenin

02:22 matey; haha

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02:23 kingoffrance; anyone not trapped in "left" and "right" "east" and "west" is a win IMO

02:25 matey; america was an eastern country until columbus checked his map again

02:25 kingoffrance; lol

02:25 MinceR; lol

02:25 kingoffrance; same ting with pharoah osiris was supposedly for the masses at first, pharaoah had to work him in to please people

02:26 MinceR; every country on earth is eastern and western

02:26 MinceR; it wraps around

02:26 matey; except california which is martian

02:26 matey; and totally a different country.

02:26 matey; they dont fool me.

02:28 matey; /me has heard where the native americans came from, and where the people of india has come from, but never where the egyptians came from

02:28 matey; other than egypt obviously

02:28 matey; or maybe theyre truly native

02:29 matey; they at least figured out that india wasnt "conquored by the aryans" via dna samples

02:29 kingoffrance; people dont even agree what the name means. land of the moon. black earth alchemy likes. probably a few more. greek approximation

02:29 matey; which pissed off a few nationalists

02:30 matey; greek approximation <- so youre saying they came from greece?

02:30 matey; i knew it

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02:31 matey; black earth alchemy likes <- *pictures zuckerberg at bohemian grove*

02:32 matey; if they do satanic rituals, hes got to be the dorkiest person there

02:32 matey; "look, im a tiki god!" "oh shut up, mark, try to show some respect"

02:34 matey; jokes aside, the ppp thing must explain something about the fsf

02:35 MinceR; presumably they came from olduvai gorge, like everyone else :>

02:36 matey; /me squints and tries to see the pun

02:36 matey; maybe its a pop culture reference, either way im not worthy

02:36 kingoffrance; well i dont know how much you read of me ranting lol. i always point out in america usps despite the "image" was an early PPP -- because they went on strike, that was the compromise reached

02:36 matey; ranting in a good way

02:37 kingoffrance; so i tell people "thats the future" LOL

02:37 MinceR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olduvai_Gorge

02:37 TR Bot; Olduvai Gorge - Wikipedia

02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-130322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-130322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-130322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-130322.txt

02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, March 13, 2022

02:37 matey; though i was starting to think you were some kind of linguistic solipsist

02:37 kingoffrance; need x to overcome x :)

02:37 matey; maybe. though it doesnt seem like that now

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02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-130322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-130322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-130322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-130322.txt

02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, March 13, 2022

02:38 matey; mincer, a fact where a quip would suffice? this is beneath you

02:38 MinceR; :>

02:38 matey; thanks for the link

02:38 matey; i always thought this was in africa

02:39 matey; thatll teach me to use columbuses old maps

02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-130322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-130322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-130322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-130322.txt

02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, March 13, 2022

02:39 matey; oh wait it is

02:39 matey; "this isnt tasmania"

02:40 matey; and for a minute i thought we would find out why egyptians have australian accents

02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-130322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-130322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-130322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-130322.txt

02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, March 13, 2022

02:40 MinceR; lol

02:41 matey; the reason more people (or maybe just me) havent heard of olduvai gorge is it got upstaged by the fertile crescent

02:41 matey; industry doesnt care about people, it wants to know where REAL progress started

02:43 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-03-13.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-03-13.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)

02:43 matey; /me buys mincer a shirt that says "go back to olduvai gorge"

02:45 matey; he can wear it everywhere and tell humanity how he really feels

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02:55 matey; that would be the best place in the world for crosby, stills, nash and young to play "woodstock" (other than woodstock)

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03:23 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 94 GB TotalOut: 52 GB

03:23 psydroid9; "I've optimized my computer for gaming. It was easy: I installed Linux." on Chris Titus's "Optimising Windows for Gaming" video

03:24 MinceR; :>

03:24 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.

03:34 IPFS; QmVwa8MkmFjRWxxPuQ3riiwsjWwCaqnmn9QXr3tY1SM5we

03:34 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.

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06:08 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, March 13, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext

06:08 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives

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06:59 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162510

06:59 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines

7 AM, March 14

07:00 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://thehill.com/policy/technology/597921-us-eu-cyber-investments-in-ukraine-pay-off-amid-war

07:00 TR Bot; EU cyber investments in Ukraine pay off amid war | TheHill

07:01 TR News; <p>Instagram notes that creators can assign a moderator by tapping the three dots in the comment bar during a Live. From there, they can choose a moderator from a list of suggested accounts, or use the search bar to search for a specific account.</p></blockquote></li>

07:02 TR News; Pro-war Russians target opponents by daubing 'Z' insignia on door https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/13/russian-police-arrest-anti-war-protester-holding-blank-poster/

07:02 TR Bot; Pro-war Russians target opponents by daubing 'Z' insignia on doors

07:02 schestowitz-TR2; XRevan86: ^

07:03 schestowitz-TR2; in future, ring calls government!

07:04 TR News; "To convert back into fiat currency requires interacting with an exchange, which would act as the interface between traditional banks" https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2022/03/13/why-crypto-is-unlikely-to-be-useful-for-sanctions-dodgers

07:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2022/03/13/why-crypto-is-unlikely-to-be-useful-for-sanctions-dodgers

07:04 TR Bot; crypto is unlikely to be useful for sanctions-dodgers | The Economist

07:04 TR News; "The [cryptocurrency] conflict unfolding in Ukraine" https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/597753-the-crypto-conflict-unfolding-in-ukraine

07:04 TR Bot; crypto conflict unfolding in Ukraine | TheHill

07:05 TR News; Poking Zuckerberg's eyes https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/11/22972869/instagram-ban-russia-ukraine-facebook-whatsapp-meta

07:05 TR Bot; Russia will ban Instagram on March 14th - The Verge

07:05 TR News; "The work has made Mr. Fedorov one of Mr. Zelenskys most visible lieutenants, deploying technology and finance as modern weapons of war." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/12/technology/ukraine-minister-war-digital.html

07:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/12/technology/ukraine-minister-war-digital.html

07:05 TR Bot; Ukrainian Minister Has Turned Digital Tools Into Modern Weapons of War - The New York Times

07:06 TR News; "Facebook bought Instagram for $1 billion in 2012, a shocking sum at that time for a company with 13 employees" https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/mark-zuckerberg-bought-instagram-as-it-was-a-threat-to-facebook-120073000324_1.html

07:06 TR Bot; Mark Zuckerberg bought Instagram as it was a 'threat' to Facebook | Business Standard News

07:11 TR News; DRM can be bad for business, employees being stiffed https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/john-deere-faces-avalanche-of-lawsuits:6

07:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/john-deere-faces-avalanche-of-lawsuits:6

07:11 TR Bot; John Deere faces avalanche of lawsuits

07:11 TR News; Microsoft and bad preactices https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/stop-piping-github-links-into-sudo:3

07:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/stop-piping-github-links-into-sudo:3

07:11 TR Bot; Stop Piping Github Links Into Sudo Bash!!

07:12 TR News; Delete GitHub... progress. https://odysee.com/@thelinuxcast:4/ramble-goodby-github,-hello-gitlab!:2

07:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@thelinuxcast:4/ramble-goodby-github,-hello-gitlab!:2

07:12 TR Bot; Ramble: Goodby GitHub, Hello GitLab!

07:12 TR News; Cleese https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/john-cleese-sxsw-panel-1235109668/

07:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hollywoodreporter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/john-cleese-sxsw-panel-1235109668/

07:12 TR Bot; John Cleese Went Off on Slavery at SXSW as Crowd Cringed The Hollywood Reporter

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07:18 TR News; Handling GPL reciprocity https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/how-companies-avoid-sharing-gpl-source:7

07:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/how-companies-avoid-sharing-gpl-source:7

07:18 TR Bot; How Companies Avoid Sharing GPL Source Code

07:19 TR News; CAs were always more about imperialism than real security https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/russia-creates-its-own-tls-certificate-authority-to-bypass-sanctions/

07:19 Alternative link; Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/russia-creates-its-own-tls-certificate-authority-to-bypass-sanctions/

07:19 TR Bot; Russia creates its own TLS certificate authority to bypass sanctions

07:20 TR News; "The VPN provider stood accused of failing to take action" https://torrentfreak.com/torguard-settles-piracy-lawsuit-and-agrees-to-block-torrent-traffic-on-u-s-servers-220314/

07:20 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/torguard-settles-piracy-lawsuit-and-agrees-to-block-torrent-traffic-on-u-s-servers-220314/

07:20 TR Bot; Settles Piracy Lawsuit and Agrees to Block Torrent Traffic on U.S. Servers * TorrentFreak

07:23 TR News; "Electronic Frontier Foundation and MuckRock combine forces to collect horror stories about Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/foilies-2022

07:23 TR Bot; The Foilies 2022 | Electronic Frontier Foundation

07:24 TR News; Does not tackle the underlying issue, which is the patents https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/13/democrats-slash-5-billion-global-covid-aid-biden-already-behind-vaccine-donations

07:24 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/13/democrats-slash-5-billion-global-covid-aid-biden-already-behind-vaccine-donations

07:24 TR Bot; Opinion | Democrats Slash $5 Billion in Global Covid AidWith Biden Already Behind on Vaccine Donations | Sarah Lazare

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07:32 TR News; Religion is not about giving hope. It's a weapon of oppressive regimes, usually against reasonable people.

07:35 TR News; Links 14/3/2022: postmarketOS 21.12 Service Pack 3, Linux 5.17 Buys More Time | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/14/linux-5-17-buys-more-time/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/14/linux-5-17-buys-more-time/

07:35 TR Bot; Links 14/3/2022: postmarketOS 21.12 Service Pack 3, Linux 5.17 Buys More Time | Techrights

07:37 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162511

07:37 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

07:46 TR News; "Just noticed that the RocketCaster cert has been expired for the past couple of days. Whoops! Let this be a reminder that openssl will default to a cert lifespan of one month if you forget to specify one." gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-03-13-rocketcaster-fixed-expired-cert.gmi cert overuse = downtimes

07:48 TR News; "As far as the sickness goes, I still get a little bit short of breath at times, but compared to what I experienced two years ago it's very mild and I dare say tolerable, although it is the most hateful thing for me." gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202203140919.gmi

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07:56 TR News; HEAR THE POWERFUL WORDS OF CARL SAGAN AND UNDERSTAND WHY WE SHOULD LOVE OUR PLANET http://tobkes.othellomaster.com/archives/2022/03/13/powerful-words/

07:57 TR Bot; Harvey Tobkes Blog Archive HEAR THE POWERFUL WORDS OF CARL SAGAN AND UNDERSTAND WHY WE SHOULD LOVE OUR PLANET

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07:57 TR News; 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: March 13th, 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162512

07:57 TR Bot; 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: March 13th, 2022 | Tux Machines

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08:29 TR News; KFluff Podman + toolbox for Plasma development/testing? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162513

08:29 TR Bot; KFluff Podman + toolbox for Plasma development/testing? | Tux Machines

08:30 TR News; Review: The curious case of Hos OS 3.1 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162514

08:31 TR Bot; Review: The curious case of Hos OS 3.1 | Tux Machines

08:34 TR News; Waveshare CM4-Duino - An Arduino compatible carrier board for Raspberry Pi CM4 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162515

08:34 TR News; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Autodesk AutoCAD Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162516

08:34 TR News; 22 Raspberry Pi projects to try in 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162517

08:35 TR Bot; Waveshare CM4-Duino - An Arduino compatible carrier board for Raspberry Pi CM4 | Tux Machines

08:35 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Autodesk AutoCAD | Tux Machines

08:35 TR Bot; 22 Raspberry Pi projects to try in 2022 | Tux Machines

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08:50 TR News; Linus Torvalds ponders limits of automation as kernel release delayed http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162505#comment-33060

08:50 TR Bot; Linux 5.17-rc8 | Tux Machines

08:50 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162518

08:50 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

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08:59 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162519

08:59 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

9 AM, March 14

09:00 TR News; Linux Kernel 5.17 Delayed by a Week to Tackle Spectre v2 Exploit http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162505#comment-33061

09:00 TR Bot; Linux 5.17-rc8 | Tux Machines

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10:04 bnchs; hello

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11:02 bnchs; gm?

11:03 XRevan86; bnchs: TZAG

11:03 bnchs; wtf is TZAG

11:03 bnchs; ohhh time zones

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11:15 bnchs; i like how inaccurate gulagtube's search engine is

11:16 bnchs; it's like when you search for "george floyd memes" you get news reports about george floyd

11:16 bnchs; instead of what you were looking for

11:16 bnchs; they filled it with a bunch of query-specific hacks

11:19 kingoffrance; i think it goes by "popularity" search openvi you get openiv

11:20 kingoffrance; it did that a long time ago, but only when little or no results. now it seems like a default

11:20 bnchs; i mean it still does

11:20 kingoffrance; they used to be king, have fallen

11:20 bnchs; search "george floyd memes" in youtube

11:20 bnchs; it will bring up news reports about george floyd and BLM

11:21 bnchs; and never the memes about george floyd

11:21 kingoffrance; hmm

11:22 TR News; Here's #HowTo mod Stardew Valley on the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/heres-how-to-mod-stardew-valley-on-the-steam-deck/

11:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/heres-how-to-mod-stardew-valley-on-the-steam-deck/

11:22 TR Bot; how to mod Stardew Valley on the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux

11:22 bnchs; well the top half of the search results is the memes

11:22 kingoffrance; as others have said here, they used to have linux and bsd specific searches too

11:22 bnchs; while the bottom half is news reports and unrelated crap

11:22 TR News; Bangladesh's Proposed Regulation = Indian IT Rules, 2021. Overreaching, invasive and suppressive. https://internetfreedom.in/report-on-bangladeshs-regulation-of-digital-social-media-and-ott-platforms-and-it-rules-2021/

11:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/report-on-bangladeshs-regulation-of-digital-social-media-and-ott-platforms-and-it-rules-2021/

11:23 TR Bot; Bangladesh's Proposed Regulation = Indian IT Rules, 2021. Overreaching, invasive and suppressive.

11:23 bnchs; kingoffrance, yes

11:23 bnchs; ever since the covid vaccine, christchruch shooting and all other crap

11:23 bnchs; search engines started to get more and more inaccurate

11:23 kingoffrance; oh, before that :)

11:23 bnchs; and sometimes just returns unrelated crap

11:23 kingoffrance; but i trust its even worse now

11:23 bnchs; before?

11:23 kingoffrance; YES, at least google

11:24 bnchs; the quality of search engines suffered because of the amount of censorship they had to do

11:24 TR News; Top 12 New Games You Can Play on Linux with Proton March 2022 Edition - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/top-12-new-games-you-can-play-on-linux-with-proton-march-2022-edition/

11:24 TR Bot; Top 12 New Games You Can Play on Linux with Proton March 2022 Edition - Boiling Steam

11:24 kingoffrance; im not that old, but old enough to see google slide

11:24 bnchs; they had to make the search engines so shit

11:24 bnchs; so nobody could search for what they didn't want you to find

11:25 TR News; Firefox 98 on POWER https://www.talospace.com/2022/03/firefox-98-on-power.html

11:25 TR Bot; Firefox 98 on POWER

11:25 kingoffrance; anyway, gm/gn have to run o/

11:25 *kingoffrance zzz

11:25 TR News; Process Apache Kafka records with Knatives serverless architecture | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/14/process-apache-kafka-records-knatives-serverless-architecture

11:26 TR Bot; Process Apache Kafka records with Knative's serverless architecture | Red Hat Developer

11:26 bnchs; yeah

11:26 bnchs; running in your sleep

11:26 *forkbombe has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

11:29 TR News; Raspberry Pi turns 10: 5 reasons we love it http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162187#comment-33062

11:29 TR Bot; The Raspberry Pi is 10/One decade, 46 million units: Happy birthday, Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines

11:30 TR News; IBM Red Hat "5 productivity tips from adults 60-plus years old" (or, as IBM calls them, "dinobabies"... while unjustly firing them) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/rethinking-age-hybrid-work

11:30 TR Bot; IT talent: Rethinking age in the hybrid work era | The Enterprisers Project

11:31 TR News; What do you call a person who applies for a job at IBM Red Hat? A masochist.

11:32 TR News; Dancer2 0.400000 Released | Jason A. Crome [blogs.perl.org] http://blogs.perl.org/users/jason_a_crome/2022/03/dancer2-0400000-released.html

11:32 TR Bot; 0.400000 Released | Jason A. Crome [blogs.perl.org]

11:37 TR News; "Today, we have some of the same thought going into things like Planet Debian, but it's a lot less interactive. Then we have things like Facebook, Twitter, and the more free alternatives. There's interactivity, but it feels like everything has to fit into the length of a single tweet." https://hartmans.dreamwidth.org/99374.html

11:37 Alternative link; Cloudflare: dreamwidth.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hartmans.dreamwidth.org/99374.html

11:37 TR Bot; hartmans | Nostalgia for Blogging

11:38 TR News; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162520

11:38 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines

11:39 TR News; 17 Best Open-source, Free Personal Journaling and Diary Apps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162521

11:39 TR Bot; 17 Best Open-source, Free Personal Journaling and Diary Apps | Tux Machines

11:39 TR News; Bugfix and Chill | LINUX Unplugged 449 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147902/bugfix-and-chill-linux-unplugged-449/

11:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147902/bugfix-and-chill-linux-unplugged-449/

11:39 TR Bot; Bugfix and Chill | LINUX Unplugged 449 | Jupiter Broadcasting

11:47 TR News; Todays 3-hour video demonstrates the appalling quality of journalism about patents and the pervasive manipulation/gaming in Google News (Gulag Noise), which mostly amplifies marketing and webspam http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/the-patent-distortion-part-5/

11:47 TR Bot; The Patent Distortion: EPO Crimes Completely Overlooked and Totally Unrecognised/Not Covered This Past Week (in News Sites, Blogs, and More) | Techrights

11:47 TR News; #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, March 13, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/14/irc-log-130322/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/14/irc-log-130322/

11:47 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, March 13, 2022 | Techrights

11:49 TR News; Covers Better Than the Originals gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2021-11-23-covers-better-than-the-originals.gmi how about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM

11:49 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM

11:49 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give Up My Destiny (Lovelyz Mashup) - Invidious

11:50 TR News; "I haven't got a full Gemini browser available on the e-paper display, but I have managed to cross compile gmni for my Kobo and use it from a shell script." gemini://calcuode.com/gemlog/2021-06-21_gmni-kobo.gmi

11:54 TR News; "Windows is such a shockingly terrible experience on the Steam Deck." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dYgd32m4c1Q

11:54 TR Bot; How to categorically RUIN your Steam Deck experience. - Invidious

11:54 TR News; "The Witcher 3 got bumped up from Playable to Verified for the Steam Deck around the initial Deck release, and developer CD Projekt RED has released a statement on it now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/cd-projekt-red-working-closely-with-valve-as-the-witcher-3-is-steam-deck-verified

11:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/cd-projekt-red-working-closely-with-valve-as-the-witcher-3-is-steam-deck-verified

11:54 TR Bot; Projekt RED 'working closely with Valve' as The Witcher 3 is Steam Deck Verified | GamingOnLinux

11:55 TR News; "Will you be playing Path of Exile on Steam Deck? Do you already play it on a Linux desktop? Let us know what you think in the comments." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/path-of-exile-getting-gamepad-support-should-work-better-on-steam-deck/

11:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/path-of-exile-getting-gamepad-support-should-work-better-on-steam-deck/

11:55 TR Bot; of Exile getting gamepad support, should work better on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux

11:56 TR News; "News I'm sure many Linux fans will be happy to see Valve sent over a Steam Deck to the developer of Lutris, the free and open source game manager." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/valve-sent-the-developer-of-lutris-a-steam-deck-to-help-development/

11:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/valve-sent-the-developer-of-lutris-a-steam-deck-to-help-development/

11:56 TR Bot; sent the developer of Lutris a Steam Deck to help development | GamingOnLinux

11:57 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 38.60 average k/sec., average swarm size 277.07

noon, March 14

12:00 TR News; Transparency Org Releases Alleged Leak of Russian Censorship Agency https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgdmj7/russian-censorship-roskomnadzor-hacked-leak-distributed-denial-of-secrets

12:00 TR Bot; Transparency Org Releases Alleged Leak of Russian Censorship Agency

12:01 TR News; People can be creative on the Net https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/12/tech/russia-internet-censorship-circumvention/index.html

12:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/12/tech/russia-internet-censorship-circumvention/index.html

12:01 TR Bot; Russian internet users are learning to beat Putin's internet crackdown - CNN

12:02 TR News; Games: Stardew Valley, The Witcher 3, Path of Exile, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162522

12:02 TR Bot; Games: Stardew Valley, The Witcher 3, Path of Exile, and More | Tux Machines

12:02 TR News; Linux kernel bcachefs update: New allocator has been merged https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yi6QGfZ5WeV1TOBs@moria.home.lan/

12:02 TR Bot; bcachefs update: New allocator has been merged - Kent Overstreet

12:03 TR News; It is Pi Day today

12:04 TR News; The NeuroFedora Blog: Next Open NeuroFedora meeting: 14 March 1300 UTC https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2022/03/14/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-14-march-1300-utc.html one hours from now... in a network I do not trust so much

12:04 TR Bot; Next Open NeuroFedora meeting: 14 March 1300 UTC | NeuroFedora: Blog

12:06 TR News; Ambassadors of the master (IBM) https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-ambassador-call-kick-off/

12:06 TR Bot; You're invited: Fedora Ambassador Call Kick-Off Fedora Community Blog

12:07 bnchs; pi day

12:07 bnchs; 3/14

12:08 bnchs; i thought cd projekt was that company who made cyberpunk 2077

12:08 bnchs; that was garbage, got it's source code leaked along with the PS4 and PS5 SDK

12:15 bnchs; schestowitz, ISPs are blocking rt.com

12:16 schestowitz-TR2; which ISPs?

12:16 bnchs; germany

12:16 schestowitz-TR2; they run ddos protection against here

12:16 schestowitz-TR2; uk

12:16 schestowitz-TR2; by "DDoS-GUARD"

12:16 bnchs; the problem is that if you talk against blocking rt.com

12:17 schestowitz-TR2; wven with JS it does not let me through

12:17 bnchs; they'll call you a russian shill

12:17 schestowitz-TR2; looks likie RT blocks me

12:17 schestowitz-TR2; maybe a lot of attacks come from the UK

12:17 schestowitz-TR2; in libreworld it works ok

12:17 schestowitz-TR2; not in falkon

12:18 bnchs; i know rt is russian state proprganda

12:18 schestowitz; e.g. https://www.rt.com/news/551868-meta-policy-assissinate-head-state/

12:18 bnchs; but blocking it is not the way

12:18 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.rt.com/news/551868-meta-policy-assissinate-head-state/ )

12:18 schestowitz; this is not untrue

12:18 schestowitz; that FB has a policy where it's OK to call for death of Russians

12:18 schestowitz; it's verified by other news reports

12:18 schestowitz; but that's OK

12:18 schestowitz; just reminds me

12:18 schestowitz; social control media = war machines

12:18 bnchs; schestowitz, https://files.catbox.moe/nkwj5z.jpg

12:18 TR Bot; connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/nkwj5z.jpg )

12:19 schestowitz; I stay off them now... WELL off

12:19 schestowitz-TR2; anyway, it's propagands

12:19 schestowitz-TR2; the West lies

12:20 schestowitz-TR2; Russia lies

12:20 schestowitz-TR2; they all lie

12:20 bnchs; yes

12:20 schestowitz-TR2; and it's hard to know what goes on

12:20 schestowitz-TR2; IU wrote about this, but only in my personal site

12:20 bnchs; CNN is full of exaggerated news

12:20 bnchs; sometimes false

12:20 bnchs; but you don't find ISPs blocking it

12:20 bnchs; but surprisingly they block RT

12:20 schestowitz-TR2; "Yo RMS! Why don't YOU TOO want to KILL a RUSHAN! Y U COMMUNIST!!"

12:21 bnchs; now it's not only OK to be extremely racist against russians

12:21 bnchs; it's mandatory

12:21 bnchs; you must be racist against russians

12:21 bnchs; or you're a russian shill

12:23 TR News; When you throw far too much stuff into a kernel; and this one is a module https://thehackernews.com/2022/03/new-linux-bug-in-netfilter-firewall.html

12:23 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thehackernews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thehackernews.com/2022/03/new-linux-bug-in-netfilter-firewall.html

12:23 TR Bot; New Linux Bug in Netfilter Firewall Module Lets Attackers Gain Root Access

12:24 bnchs; >"linux bug"

12:24 bnchs; >firewall module

12:24 bnchs; put it in the user-space

12:26 TR News; The Gulag 'Moscow syndrome' https://www.maketecheasier.com/aid-in-ukraine-google/ see http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/donetsk-and-gulag-or-google-now-bans-parts-of-ukraine-for-being-invaded-by-russia/

12:26 TR Bot; To Continue Aid in Ukraine, Google Adds Air Raid to Services. - Make Tech Easier

12:26 TR Bot; When Sanctions Go Toxic: Google, Co-Founded by Moscovite, Agrees With Moscow and Recognises Mariupol (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia | Techrights

12:27 TR News; Canonical bullish on OpenStack Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162523

12:27 TR Bot; Canonical bullish on OpenStack | Tux Machines

12:28 bnchs; >"air raid"

12:28 bnchs; don't tell me

12:28 schestowitz-TR2; I had to click

12:28 schestowitz-TR2; to see what it is about

12:28 schestowitz-TR2; "air support" usually means something really bad

12:28 schestowitz-TR2; like blasting people to pieces

12:28 schestowitz-TR2; with lots of bombs or even napalm

12:29 bnchs; google adds air raid [alert] to services

12:29 schestowitz; also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_air_support

12:29 TR Bot; Close air support - Wikipedia

12:29 bnchs; the headline is of course incorrect

12:30 schestowitz; "The Second World War marked the universal acceptance of the integration of air power into combined arms warfare. Although the German Luftwaffe was the only force to use CAS at the start of the war, all the major combatants had developed effective air-ground coordination techniques by the conflict's end"

12:30 schestowitz; bnchs: yes, I wonder if

12:30 schestowitz; 1) intentional

12:30 schestowitz; 2) the author is aware

12:30 schestowitz; "raid" means something unwanted

12:30 schestowitz; by "air"

12:30 bnchs; the headline makes as if google has air raid equipment

12:31 schestowitz; There's also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistent_Close_Air_Support

12:31 TR Bot; Persistent Close Air Support - Wikipedia

12:31 bnchs; i hope they don't start blasting russian civilians

12:31 bnchs; blast putin but not the russians

12:32 schestowitz-TR2; Gulag works with the army

12:32 schestowitz-TR2; they already help bomb people

12:33 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence_arms_race#United_States

12:33 TR Bot; Artificial intelligence arms race - Wikipedia

12:33 bnchs; yeah gulag helps bombing people

12:33 bnchs; and they say they're harmless

12:34 TR News; Paid-for fluff/webspam for IBM from IBM-funded pundit, Timothy Prickett Morgan ttps://www.itjungle.com/2022/03/14/ibm-brings-openshift-cluster-management-native-on-power-iron/

12:34 TR News; Building containers by hand using namespaces: Use a net namespace for VPNs https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/use-net-namespace-vpn

12:35 TR Bot; Building containers by hand using namespaces: Use a net namespace for VPNs | Enable Sysadmin

12:35 bnchs; i'm downloading a few GNU/Linux distributions on torrent so i can seed it to other people

12:35 bnchs; maybe it will help

12:37 TR News; Clownflare is a cancer company. It spreads cancer to the Web or makes the Web a cancer. If you think that's bad, oh just you wait till they actually try to become profitable

12:38 TR News; Clownflare wants you to think it'll make sites more accessible. The opposite is true.

12:39 bnchs; clownflare already has MITM'd websites before

12:39 bnchs; modifying html

12:39 bnchs; adding their own trackers

12:39 bnchs; maybe replacing the email links with their own shit

12:39 schestowitz-TR2; we need a good, concise list of all the known issues with clownflare. I have not stumbled upon such a list.

12:39 bnchs; if a website is using both clownflare DDOS protection and clownflare SSL cert

12:40 schestowitz-TR2; it would take a lot of research work to assemble such a list.

12:40 bnchs; you can rest assured that it has been MITM

12:40 bnchs; schestowitz-TR2, yes there is

12:40 schestowitz-TR2; well, but clownflare is not putin

12:40 schestowitz-TR2; hence, it is good

12:40 schestowitz-TR2; it's also 'free'

12:41 schestowitz-TR2; like free hashish

12:41 bnchs; the thing that would prevent clownflare's MITM

12:41 bnchs; is using your own cert

12:41 bnchs; but their ddos protection

12:41 bnchs; but they don't allow that

12:41 schestowitz-TR2; mozilla outsources some dns to them

12:41 bnchs; because they NEED to modify your html

12:42 bnchs; they need to insert trackers and shit

12:42 bnchs; they can even insert javascript

12:42 TR News; Dont Drain Your Wallet: delete AWS and use real hosting, which you actually control and can access. https://www.cloudsavvyit.com/15916/dont-drain-your-wallet-how-to-set-up-aws-billing-alarms-budgets/

12:42 TR Bot; Dont Drain Your Wallet: How to Set up AWS Billing Alarms & Budgets CloudSavvy IT

12:42 activelow; schestowitz-TR2: the ukrainian airports were "shut down" already

12:43 bnchs; clownflare is a problem

12:43 bnchs; it undermines HTTPS

12:43 bnchs; if you use their own cert and route your domain to their DNS

12:43 bnchs; because they can simply decrypt requests at ease

12:43 activelow; in the beginning

12:44 schestowitz-TR2; activelow: good fore the environment

12:44 schestowitz-TR2; not let's do Russia's, too

12:44 schestowitz-TR2; (partly cynical)

12:44 activelow; next on the roadmap is bordering territory of the russian federation, where USA stationed ballistic missiles

12:44 bnchs; clownflare's DDOS protection is free for a reason

12:44 bnchs; you pay with your user's data

12:45 activelow; besides, without german language reporting and the psychological nuances floating here it's difficult, to comprehend

12:45 psydroid9; just install Windows on your Steam Deck

12:45 bnchs; gathered from all the decrypted requests

12:45 psydroid9; lol

12:45 activelow; btw. the recent explosion of energy prices cannot be explained with a shortage of supply, just saying, because according to recent reports both the ukrainian and the russian pipelines are operational at 100% capacity

12:45 TR News; Calibre 5.x available for Slackware 15.0 and -current (finally) https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/calibre-5-x-available-for-slackware-15-0-and-current-finally/

12:45 TR Bot; Calibre 5.x available for Slackware 15.0 and -current (finally) | Alien Pastures

12:46 bnchs; https://codeberg.org/crimeflare

12:46 TR Bot; - Codeberg.org

12:46 bnchs; there used to be lots of info about clownflare here

12:46 TR News; The Steam Deck Finally Gets a Low Battery Indicator - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/the-steam-deck-finally-gets-a-low-battery-indicator/

12:46 TR Bot; The Steam Deck Finally Gets a Low Battery Indicator - Boiling Steam

12:46 bnchs; unfortunately got blanked because "legal reasons"

12:46 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162524

12:46 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

12:47 schestowitz-TR2; can you slavage it?

12:47 schestowitz-TR2; maybe we can legally repost to preserve

12:47 schestowitz-TR2; I know only some of the bad things

12:47 schestowitz-TR2; there are dozens

12:47 schestowitz-TR2; putting them all in one place makes it powerful/convincing/compelling

12:47 bnchs; there's mirrors of the repo stored elsewhere

12:48 schestowitz-TR2; we need to persuade people and the wiki seems right for a persuasive list we can expand over time

12:48 schestowitz-TR2; the "clown" needs to evaporate

12:49 bnchs; it seems i found one

12:49 bnchs; https://git.nixnet.services/you/stop_cloudflare

12:49 schestowitz-TR2; and we'll look back at "the clown" like we look at mainframes

12:49 TR Bot; you/stop_cloudflare - stop_cloudflare - Gitea

12:49 bnchs; heres a mirror of it

12:49 schestowitz-TR2; a bad idea, temporarye hype wave by data theies

12:49 bnchs; with all the info before it got blanked

12:49 schestowitz-TR2; *thives

12:49 schestowitz-TR2; *thieves

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12:50 psydroid9; the clown was never entrenched outside of the circus

12:50 schestowitz-TR2; ends with a Hitler quote

12:50 bnchs; schestowitz-TR2, would you mirror the repo?

12:51 bnchs; because it seems this is one of the last mirrors

12:51 bnchs; of the crimeflare repo

12:52 bnchs; and it has lots of info

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12:52 activelow; i cannot keep up anymore

12:52 schestowitz; "I am not the author of this documentation. This is just a reupload after it got taken down from Codeberg."

12:53 bnchs; yes "legal reasons"

12:53 bnchs; probably clownflare caught on

12:53 schestowitz-TR2; this is a bunch of tweets and memes

12:53 schestowitz-TR2; and many images

12:53 schestowitz-TR2; not a good summary at all

12:54 schestowitz-TR2; just a chaotic whiteboard with sticky notes

12:54 schestowitz-TR2; many clownflare employees blocked me in twitter

12:54 bnchs; yeah

12:54 schestowitz-TR2; for the 'crime' of just criticising the company

12:54 schestowitz-TR2; not them, the company

12:54 schestowitz-TR2; they don't want to know

12:54 schestowitz-TR2; would rather not hear

12:54 schestowitz-TR2; it's demoralising to them

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12:55 schestowitz-TR2; that for a living they destroy the Internet, not just the Web

12:55 bnchs; but there's also important tidbits

12:55 bnchs; like this

12:55 bnchs; https://git.nixnet.services/you/stop_cloudflare/media/branch/master/image/cfbloghtmledit.jpg

12:55 bnchs; clownflare admits in their blogs that they rewrite html "as they pass"

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12:55 schestowitz-TR2; if not now, then in the future

12:57 bnchs; https://git.nixnet.services/you/stop_cloudflare/media/branch/master/image/cfhelpforum.jpg

12:57 schestowitz; days ago:' https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/cloudflare_disrupt/

12:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/cloudflare_disrupt/

12:57 TR Bot; Cloudflare: More focused on growing userbase than profits The Register

12:57 schestowitz; Let me preserve the text here

12:58 schestowitz; they admit it's work on progress

12:58 schestowitz; herding people

12:58 schestowitz; later cashing in on them

12:58 schestowitz; same in shithub

12:58 schestowitz; "

12:58 schestowitz; If Cloudflare CFO Thomas Seifert's take on his company's direction is accurate, expect future strategy to focus on how it can use its slew of newly announced tools to make the biggest dent in existing markets. Profit motivations come a distant second, as least for now.

12:58 schestowitz; Speaking at the Morgan Stanley Technology, Media and Telecom conference, Seifert told analyst Keith Weiss that 2022 will be all about growing Cloudflare's Zero Trust solution as well as Workers, its serverless code platform.

12:58 schestowitz; Even with those products, Seifert said, the security-focused content-delivery network's strategy isn't about earnings it's about gaining users. "We think primarily about adoption in the developer community penetration and less about dollars and revenue at this point in time," Siefert told the audience of investors and financial analysts.

12:58 schestowitz; "

12:58 schestowitz; So later on, after ISP, they will abuse

12:58 schestowitz; not just sites

12:58 schestowitz; but visitors

12:58 schestowitz; for the shareholders' gain

12:58 bnchs; they give website owners a sense of false security

12:58 schestowitz; what sane person surrenders a site to such a company????

12:58 bnchs; so that they can MITM

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13:00 *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@tth4xr4rfyi6q.irc) has joined #techrights

13:00 bnchs; they even admit they MITM connections

13:00 bnchs; in their obscure blogs

13:03 TR News; Gitter: Open Source Collaboration App for Developers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162525

13:03 TR Bot; Gitter: Open Source Collaboration App for Developers | Tux Machines

13:05 psydroid2; make the sane insane again

13:06 TR News; What does the "accessibility" WG in W3C intend to do about CDN cancers like Clownflare and geoblocking, or sites that use GDPR as pretext for blocking? Nothing.

13:07 TR News; We need more lions, there's no lack of humans on this planet https://www.ecr.co.za/news/entertainment/moment-my-soul-left-my-body-somizi-gets-close-and-personal-lion/

13:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ecr.co.za | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ecr.co.za/news/entertainment/moment-my-soul-left-my-body-somizi-gets-close-and-personal-lion/

13:07 TR Bot; 'The moment my soul left my body' - Somizi gets up close and personal with a lion

13:08 bnchs; clownflare is not meant for accessibility

13:08 bnchs; like a blind person with a TTS

13:08 bnchs; "click the pictures with train"

13:08 TR News; 5 Best War Games for Linux That Will Make You Addicted https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-war-games-for-linux/

13:08 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ubuntupit.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-war-games-for-linux/

13:08 TR Bot; 5 Best War Games for Linux That Will Make You Addicted

13:08 bnchs; "sorry you can't use audio because your IP is abused for shit"

13:08 bnchs; "click the pictures with crossroads"

13:09 bnchs; blind people GTFO

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13:11 TR News; "As a prolific maintainer of several dozen FOSS projects, Im often asked how I can get so much done, being just one person." https://drewdevault.com/2022/03/14/It-takes-a-village.html

13:11 TR Bot; It takes a village

13:13 TR News; "Mike Saunders from The Document Foundation, the non-profit entity behind LibreOffice, appeared on a recent episode of the podcast to talk about the LibreOffice community and long-term sustainable development." https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/03/14/libreoffice-on-the-sustain-podcast/

13:13 TR Bot; LibreOffice on the Sustain podcast - The Document Foundation Blog

13:14 TR News; The Register is now trying to frame the criminals at Microsoft at 'research', stilling issuing puff pieces for the most corrupt tech company in human history

13:15 TR News; "Hello, everyone --let's review the Apache community's activities from over the past week..." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-weekly-news-round17

13:15 TR Bot; The Apache Weekly News Round-up: week ending 11 March 2022 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog

13:16 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs: clouwnflare 2025:

13:16 schestowitz-TR2; please turn on the webcam

13:16 schestowitz-TR2; to show us you arer a real person

13:16 schestowitz-TR2; and not too russian/brown

13:17 bnchs; warning russian detected

13:17 bnchs; IP banned for 2 years

13:19 bnchs; clownflare 2030:

13:19 bnchs; please scan your ID card

13:19 bnchs; and enter your citizen ID

13:20 bnchs; to show us you are a real person

13:20 SomeH4x0r; isn't it the case for MMO games in China?

13:20 SomeH4x0r; entering IDs

13:21 bnchs; yes

13:21 bnchs; but it will be for websites now

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13:22 bnchs; i thought UK already pushed pr0n websites to force users to enter their ID

13:23 schestowitz-TR2; did that eventually happen?

13:23 ZNC; pr0n websites to forcing users?

13:23 schestowitz-TR2; there was a controversy about ISPs filtering it (blocking) by default

13:23 schestowitz-TR2; and then you having to phone to undo the block

13:23 schestowitz-TR2; anyway, I never access pr0n sites

13:24 ZNC; god for you

13:24 schestowitz-TR2; the Internet does not have a monopoly on porn

13:25 bnchs; downloading knoppix DVD

13:25 schestowitz; https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/russia-reverts-paper-nsa-leaks

13:25 TR Bot; Russian guard service reverts to typewriters after NSA leaks | Russia | The Guardian

13:26 schestowitz; https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/11/russian-security-now-using-typewriters-to-thwart-the-nsa/

13:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: foreignpolicy.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/11/russian-security-now-using-typewriters-to-thwart-the-nsa/

13:26 TR Bot; Russian Security Now Using Typewriters to Thwart the NSA Foreign Policy

13:26 ZNC; yes you should be careful if your into CP

13:26 schestowitz; https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/07/11/russia-spies-nsa-typewriters-documents-computers/2508751/

13:26 TR Bot; USA TODAY

13:26 schestowitz; papers last a lot longer anyway

13:26 schestowitz; https://qz.com/103159/russian-solution-to-nsa-spying-typewriters/

13:26 TR Bot; Russias solution to NSA spying? Typewriters Quartz

13:26 TR News; "Bean and Nothingness is one we missed from February that added a Linux version and it appears like it might be a great pick if you love tile-based puzzlers." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/tile-based-puzzler-bean-and-nothingness-looks-sweet-now-has-a-linux-version-too

13:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/tile-based-puzzler-bean-and-nothingness-looks-sweet-now-has-a-linux-version-too

13:26 TR Bot; puzzler Bean and Nothingness looks sweet, now has a Linux version too | GamingOnLinux

13:26 ZNC; papers?

13:27 ZNC; news pappers?

13:27 schestowitz-TR2; paper copies of things

13:27 schestowitz-TR2; they can also be better to

13:27 schestowitz-TR2; 1) prevent leaks

13:27 schestowitz-TR2; destroy properly

13:28 schestowitz-TR2; 2) recycle

13:29 ZNC; im sure your right

13:29 ZNC; you can laso use it to wipe your ass

13:29 TR News; Qt wants Free software developers (and users) to vomit not just because Qt became proprietary https://www.qt.io/blog/how-to-monetize-your-cross-platform-application-with-the-qt-digital-advertising-platform

13:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: qt.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.qt.io/blog/how-to-monetize-your-cross-platform-application-with-the-qt-digital-advertising-platform

13:29 TR Bot; How to monetize yourcross-platform applicationwith the Qt Digital Advertising platform

13:30 schestowitz-TR2; ZNC: that's two in one

13:30 schestowitz-TR2; destroy the information and reuse

13:31 schestowitz; http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/cia-strategy-collect-all-data-and-keep-it-forever-130325?news=849534

13:31 TR Bot; Stories - CIA Strategy: Collect All Data and Keep it Forever - AllGov - News

13:31 schestowitz; https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/cia-gus-hunt-big-data_n_2917842

13:31 TR Bot; CIA's Gus Hunt On Big Data: We 'Try To Collect Everything And Hang On To It Forever' | HuffPost UK Tech

13:31 schestowitz; when you live in a toilet paper of a country

13:31 ZNC; greenwipe

13:32 TR News; Games: Steam, War Games, and Puzzles Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162526

13:32 TR Bot; Games: Steam, War Games, and Puzzles | Tux Machines

13:32 schestowitz-TR2; another option is old computing devices

13:33 schestowitz-TR2; but they are not guaranteed to last long

13:33 bnchs; they wipe their asses with newspaper

13:33 schestowitz-TR2; that's like wiping shit with shiot

13:40 bnchs; yeah well

13:40 bnchs; i guess thats better than toilet paper

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13:44 bnchs; https://www.zdnet.com/article/heres-how-you-can-learn-linux-programming-affordably/

13:44 TR Bot; how you can learn Linux programming for just $15 | ZDNet

13:45 bnchs; "Starting out, you'll learn how to master the Linux command line, work with Linux files and folders and learn various text processing commands to work more efficiently. Then, as a way to practice, you'll create your own AWS Linux EC2 instance. Next, you'll graduate to bash shell scripting, getting familiar with various bash shell features such as conditions and loops and how to write scripts to automate repeated tasks. "

13:45 bnchs; its GNU not Linux

13:45 bnchs; also aws is shit

13:50 TR News; Security: Detection and Bugs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162527

13:50 TR Bot; Security: Detection and Bugs | Tux Machines

13:50 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162528

13:50 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines

13:50 TR News; Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162529

13:50 TR Bot; Fedora and IBM/Red Hat | Tux Machines

13:52 TR News; Links 14/3/2022: Pi Day and Firefox 98 on POWER | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/14/firefox-98-on-power/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/14/firefox-98-on-power/

13:52 TR Bot; Links 14/3/2022: Pi Day and Firefox 98 on POWER | Techrights

13:52 TR News; Links 14/3/2022: Pi Day and Firefox 98 on POWER | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/14/firefox-98-on-power/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/14/firefox-98-on-power/

13:53 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162530

13:53 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

13:58 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs: rianne talking about this at work atm

13:59 bnchs; really

13:59 schestowitz-TR2; some idiots who want to upload a database of a site to Gulag Drive or AWS

13:59 schestowitz-TR2; and we're like, noooo

13:59 schestowitz-TR2; there are passwords in there

13:59 bnchs; wtf

13:59 schestowitz-TR2; and it's a political site

13:59 bnchs; the last thing you would do

13:59 schestowitz-TR2; so the irnian regime can make up kill lists

13:59 bnchs; is put your data at the security and privacy of someone else's computer

13:59 schestowitz-TR2; but we have some truly incompetent colleagues

13:59 bnchs; it's dumb

13:59 schestowitz-TR2; who think GAFAM is a friend

13:59 schestowitz-TR2; some of them even send passwords over gmail

2 PM, March 14

14:00 schestowitz-TR2; so I told rianne

14:00 schestowitz-TR2; "fake security" is one word

14:00 schestowitz-TR2; might as well merge it into fakesecurity

14:00 bnchs; uploading a database of your site to someone else's computer

14:00 schestowitz-TR2; like "newspeak"

14:00 bnchs; is like intentionally commiting data leak

14:00 schestowitz-TR2; because it refers to a bogus notion of it

14:00 schestowitz-TR2; and became a cult, like DevOps

14:02 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs: and get this!

14:03 schestowitz-TR2; we are ISO-cenrtified

14:03 schestowitz-TR2; for security LOL.

14:03 bnchs; clown is abstracting the point that you're putting your website at the security of someone else's computer that you can't even check that they have proper security measures

14:03 schestowitz-TR2; the procedure for that is like a diplomia mil

14:03 schestowitz-TR2; you just answer a bunch of question

14:03 schestowitz-TR2; they do not even bother checking is the answers supplied are correct

14:03 bnchs; your company is gonna be formerly ISO-certified

14:03 schestowitz-TR2; the third party isn't even liabile

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; so in case of breach they point to some thing you pressed OK on

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; compsed and repeatedly revised by "legal"

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; (the lawyers)

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; just to make sure nobody is held accountable

14:04 bnchs; it's dumb

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; the rich just count the beans

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; and "lol real sorry" whenever something bad happens

14:05 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/10/12/citation-fake-security/

14:05 TR Bot; Citation/Atlas Security Exam is a Total Farce, But Its Still Good for Entertainment Purposes | Techrights

14:05 schestowitz; fakesecurity training ^

14:06 TR News; The name sounds east Asian but the processor has NSA (US+SixEyes) back doors https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/14/dingdian-s3-pocket-sized-intel-pentium-n6000-mini-pc/

14:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/14/dingdian-s3-pocket-sized-intel-pentium-n6000-mini-pc/

14:06 TR Bot; DingDian S3 - A Pocket-sized Intel Pentium N6000 mini PC (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software

14:07 TR News; "There are enough vbios escapes without the proper workaround that some users still hit this. MS never productized ATS on windows so OEM platforms that were windows only didn't always validate ATS." https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220222160801.841643-1-alexander.deucher@amd.com/

14:07 TR Bot; [PATCH] PCI: Apply quirk_amd_harvest_no_ats to all navi10 and 14 asics - Alex Deucher

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14:09 schestowitz-TR2; gm, DaemonFC

14:10 DaemonFC; Hi. Someone added my name and address to someone's Walmart account.

14:10 DaemonFC; Then they ordered a bunch of stuff.

14:10 DaemonFC; I'm trying to figure out what's going on before the police get involved.

14:10 schestowitz-TR2; take the groceries ;-)

14:10 DaemonFC; I called them and said I think someone is doing this so they can grab all the stuff and blame it on me.

14:10 schestowitz-TR2; "oh, I didn't order it... oh well"

14:10 schestowitz-TR2; "open my gut and take it back"

14:11 schestowitz-TR2; if walmart does not verify addresses..

14:11 DaemonFC; They wouldn't take the report. She said "But if we question you that doesn't mean we're trying to get you in trouble.". I said, "I don't believe that for a minute.".

14:11 schestowitz-TR2; haha

14:11 schestowitz-TR2; cops

14:11 DaemonFC; "I read that you offered someone McDonalds to confess to murder."

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14:16 TR News; "Im pleased to announce two unrelated punk releases. Offpunk 1.0, the first stable version of the distraction-free offline smolnet browser and the audiobook of Printeurs, my cyberpunk novel." gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-03-14-offpunk_and_cyberpunk.gmi

14:18 TR News; "And I gladly join the chorus and send Solderpunk a few virtual hugs if he'll have them. Personally I feel that gemini and the tools built for it have added value to my everyday life." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-03-14-celebrating-offpunk-and-hugging-solderpunk-.gmi

14:20 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, The cops will do anything....ANYTHING.....to say they solved a case.

14:20 DaemonFC; They will charge the first and most obvious person and ruin their life and make them wake up in the middle of the night throwing up facing charges.

14:20 schestowitz-TR2; that's what they are measured by

14:20 DaemonFC; And then they go home and sleep fine.

14:20 schestowitz-TR2; closingf tickets

14:20 schestowitz-TR2; can't find perpetrator = wontfix

14:21 DaemonFC; Basically, yes.

14:21 schestowitz-TR2; if you ruin their score, they will for revenge

14:21 schestowitz-TR2; like, if you complain about them

14:21 schestowitz-TR2; or to them

14:21 DaemonFC; THey don't much care of they get it right.

14:21 schestowitz-TR2; which I once did

14:21 schestowitz-TR2; the guard where I live waved at me

14:21 schestowitz-TR2; telling me to stop

14:21 schestowitz-TR2; saying it is dangerous

14:21 schestowitz-TR2; I was about 22

14:21 schestowitz-TR2; some of these guards used to be cops

14:22 schestowitz-TR2; so they know how police cliques work

14:22 schestowitz-TR2; and how they can use "slanders" to get back at people who complain about them

14:22 DaemonFC; I can't believe this shit. If you don't do ANYTHING.

14:22 DaemonFC; They still come and get you.

14:22 schestowitz-TR2; yes

14:22 schestowitz-TR2; if you are a threat

14:22 schestowitz-TR2; to them

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14:22 schestowitz-TR2; the person who filmed the murder of Eric the big guy

14:22 schestowitz-TR2; he was framed

14:22 schestowitz-TR2; arrested

14:23 schestowitz-TR2; for taking a footage

14:23 schestowitz-TR2; they "found something on him"

14:23 schestowitz-TR2; iirc, he later died

14:23 schestowitz-TR2; like eric garner

14:24 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/17091534

14:24 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/kxhoodpf3gkz.png created on 2017-09-15 17:21:54.024092

14:24 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, More terrified of the police than the criminals, honestly.

14:24 DaemonFC; If the criminals succeed, you need to challenge a TV they bought with the credit card company.

14:24 schestowitz-TR2; i asked my dad about it back then

14:25 DaemonFC; If the police succeed in framing you, you might kill yourself to make it stop.

14:25 schestowitz-TR2; I was still young, early 20s

14:25 schestowitz-TR2; he said,

14:25 schestowitz-TR2; make sure your name does not appear anywhere in police DBs

14:25 schestowitz-TR2; not even as witness

14:25 schestowitz-TR2; even when you make a call you can end up on their files

14:25 schestowitz-TR2; which is a liability

14:25 activelow; "Lambrecht, ministry of defense, announces acquisition of F-35 bombers" (they didn't say when and how fast delivery would occur); in parallel "German airport security staff strike"

14:26 activelow; and, German AirForce is equipped with both, Tornado air-to-ground bombers, and Eurofighter Multi-Role (including air-to-ground capability)

14:27 bnchs; i wonder

14:28 bnchs; how can you buy shit from a non profit ID

14:28 bnchs; like that incident with VLC foundation

14:28 bnchs; someone bought a streaming service subscription with their ID

14:28 DaemonFC; The Russian _conventional_ military isn't much of a threat to the United States or anyone who ends up with a bunch of our stuff.

14:29 DaemonFC; Even Ukraine is costing Putin's thugs thousands of tanks and armored vehicles.

14:29 DaemonFC; So many that he's openly asking China for money and tanks now.

14:30 bnchs; lol

14:30 bnchs; "china can i borrow your money"

14:30 bnchs; "can i borrow your tanks"

14:30 bnchs; "just for a bit please"

14:31 DaemonFC; https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/14/tech/shenzhen-lockdown-foxconn-operations-intl-hnk/index.html

14:31 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/14/tech/shenzhen-lockdown-foxconn-operations-intl-hnk/index.html

14:31 TR Bot; lockdown: Foxconn halts operations as Covid hits tech hub - CNN

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; yes

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; I saw reports like this about a week ago

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; covid also surges in northern europe

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; we solved NOTHING

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; we mitigated a little

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; for old people

14:32 bnchs; covid is not even deadly

14:32 DaemonFC; The Russian economy can't actually support a modern military.

14:32 TR News; Planet Gemini: Many Capsules in One Gemini Page | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/14/planet-gemini/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/14/planet-gemini/

14:32 bnchs; it's just a virus deadly for fatasses

14:32 TR Bot; Planet Gemini: Many Capsules in One Gemini Page | Techrights

14:32 bnchs; and old people

14:32 DaemonFC; But we get fake news that suggests that it can.

14:32 DaemonFC; Then nobody questions how much Washington wants to spend.

14:33 DaemonFC; bbl

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14:33 *schestowitz-TR2 checks if bidenland reached a million yet...

14:33 schestowitz-TR2; 6k to go

14:33 schestowitz-TR2; 81 confirmed infections

14:33 bnchs; so i wonder

14:33 schestowitz-TR2; one death for each 81 confirmed cases

14:33 bnchs; spreading free software in DVDs

14:33 schestowitz-TR2; which is still high

14:33 bnchs; will it work?

14:34 schestowitz-TR2; bnchs: it can

14:34 schestowitz-TR2; but might not be secure

14:34 schestowitz-TR2; as a lot would be out of data

14:34 schestowitz-TR2; *date

14:34 schestowitz-TR2; not just in the security sense

14:34 schestowitz-TR2; because software moves too fast

14:34 schestowitz-TR2; asnd some of the stuff would not compile

14:34 schestowitz-TR2; if you store binaries on DVDs

14:34 schestowitz-TR2; it would not even run

14:34 schestowitz-TR2; or not on some future hardware

14:35 bnchs; so how would it work

14:35 schestowitz-TR2; computing is lame in the sense that no consideration is given to aging and cadence

14:35 bnchs; maybe putting installation DVDs

14:35 bnchs; with network downloading

14:35 schestowitz-TR2; even the medium, DVDs

14:35 schestowitz-TR2; how many computers still come with DVD drives

14:35 schestowitz-TR2; 10 years from now Pentagon contractors will tell Linus to removed DVD support

14:35 schestowitz-TR2; something securitysomething something vsomething

14:35 bnchs; there's still old computers with DVD drive

14:36 bnchs; just that modern clown laptops don't come with one

14:36 schestowitz-TR2; they don't even have an ethernet port

14:36 bnchs; wait what?

14:36 bnchs; no ethernet port?

14:36 schestowitz-TR2; wait, you didn't know?

14:36 schestowitz-TR2; many laptops today come wiuth wifi only

14:36 bnchs; yes i use ethernet port on my laptop

14:36 bnchs; but really why would you force users to use your proprietary firmware

14:37 bnchs; to use the internet

14:37 schestowitz-TR2; ethernet is ffor criminals anyway :-)

14:37 schestowitz-TR2; why would you want ethernet !

14:37 bnchs; i don't even use the wifi on my laptop

14:37 bnchs; because proprietary firmware files

14:37 bnchs; i use ethernet

14:37 schestowitz-TR2; also, why would you want to store files locally?

14:37 bnchs; schestowitz-TR2, they're gonna install windows in a non-modifiable flash chip

14:37 bnchs; in the future

14:38 bnchs; that can only store files in the clown

14:38 schestowitz-TR2; naaa..

14:38 schestowitz-TR2; windows lost its lusre even in the pentagon

14:38 schestowitz-TR2; they might have a list of approved crap

14:38 schestowitz-TR2; like chromeOS

14:38 schestowitz-TR2; the "trustred" Linus

14:38 schestowitz-TR2; Trusted by Gulag(TM)

14:38 bnchs; chromebook is a joke

14:38 bnchs; you can't store files locally

14:38 bnchs; it has spyware

14:38 schestowitz-TR2; we moved a step in that direction already

14:38 schestowitz-TR2; with 'secure' boot

14:39 bnchs; they force students to use a chromebook

14:39 schestowitz-TR2; they want to restrict what PCs PERMIT you to boot

14:39 bnchs; rather than a thinkpad or something

14:39 schestowitz-TR2; "VERBOTENOS"

14:39 bnchs; i live in a poor country anyway

14:39 schestowitz-TR2; "Trying to boot Genoo? Pervert. This incident will be reports"

14:39 bnchs; so we don't have these cursed technology yet

14:40 schestowitz-TR2; <Crash report sent to pentagon.goc.something>

14:40 schestowitz-TR2; like with sudo

14:40 schestowitz-TR2; but the root will be shared with the OS vendor

14:40 schestowitz-TR2; for "your safety"

14:40 schestowitz-TR2; maybe in <10 years from now

14:40 schestowitz-TR2; like Mozilla with its "Crash reports"

14:40 schestowitz-TR2; collecting tons of data from Firefox users

14:40 bnchs; "Unauthorized operating system detected, This incident will be reported. Shutting down in 20 seconds"

14:40 schestowitz-TR2; for "performance" of course...

14:41 schestowitz-TR2; *Gentoo * reported

14:41 bnchs; modern laptops will have GPS

14:41 bnchs; so that when they detect unauthorized OS

14:41 bnchs; they know where you live

14:42 schestowitz-TR2; "Trying to boot DANGEROUS (unknown OS)? Must be a criminal. This incident will be reported" (PC connects to silicon-level secondary processor, over wifi, sends a bunch of data to IP address not in reverse DNS)

14:42 bnchs; you'll start seeing these wanted posters

14:42 schestowitz-TR2; first they put GPS in cars

14:42 schestowitz-TR2; many cars already have these

14:42 schestowitz-TR2; they will say old cars are "pollution"

14:42 schestowitz-TR2; or they need to track how much you drive

14:42 bnchs; "FBI MOST WANTED: Richard Stallman. Contributes to GNU"

14:42 schestowitz-TR2; because... something... "environment"

14:43 schestowitz-TR2; so you need to buy a new "modern" "smart" cars

14:43 bnchs; if richard stallman doesn't go into hiding

14:43 schestowitz-TR2; or install some SmartThing(TM) with GPS

14:43 bnchs; in his attic

14:43 schestowitz-TR2; and the cops will check you have it attached

14:43 schestowitz-TR2; because... environment

14:43 bnchs; like that one jew girl and nazi germany

14:43 schestowitz-TR2; Anne Frank

14:44 schestowitz-TR2; it didn't work

14:44 schestowitz-TR2; they found her

14:44 bnchs; like they will find richard

14:44 bnchs; they will "disappear" him

14:44 schestowitz-TR2; he's 70 soon

14:44 schestowitz-TR2; and they can ignore him like they do chomsky

14:44 schestowitz-TR2; counting the days

14:44 schestowitz-TR2; FBI did have a file on chmsky

14:44 schestowitz-TR2; but he's in his 90s now

14:44 schestowitz-TR2; [14:44] <bnchs> they will "disappear" him

14:45 schestowitz-TR2; will?

14:45 schestowitz-TR2; they canceled him in 2019

14:45 schestowitz-TR2; and prior to that there had been many character assassinations online already

14:45 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2014/03/30/richard-stallman-on-trolls/

14:45 TR Bot; Richard Stallman Talks About Internet Trolls Who Demonise Him | Techrights

14:45 schestowitz; what he told me

14:45 schestowitz; in 2014 when he visited

14:46 bnchs; schestowitz, yes

14:47 bnchs; they will first try to outcast him

14:47 bnchs; isolate him

14:47 bnchs; and if that fails

14:47 bnchs; last resort

14:47 bnchs; would be to "disappear" him

14:47 schestowitz-TR2; mlk was treated this way

14:47 schestowitz-TR2; with sex tapes

14:47 schestowitz-TR2; but first they blackmailed him with these

14:47 schestowitz-TR2; eventually he was killed regardless

14:47 schestowitz-TR2; I won't even state who did it, as I don't know...

14:47 schestowitz-TR2; but he was dead

14:47 bnchs; "FBI Most Wanted: Richard Stallman, Crimes: Leader of terrorist group GNU"

14:48 schestowitz-TR2; like jeffrey epstein

14:48 bnchs; they'll treat free software groups as terrorist groups in the future

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14:49 TR News; "With silver being worth $0.72/g as of this writing, that means I have ~$31.39 worth of silver in coins that have a $2.50 face value." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-12-20.gmi

14:49 bnchs; because something something criminals

14:49 gooseheaded; hi

14:49 gooseheaded; i am back...

14:49 gooseheaded; call me sandra.

14:49 SomeH4x0r; hi

14:49 gooseheaded; hi!

14:49 bnchs; hi

14:49 gooseheaded; o/

14:49 schestowitz-TR2; hi sandra

14:49 gooseheaded; HAHA

14:49 gooseheaded; ty

14:49 *schestowitz-TR2 is now known as TheOtherSandra

14:51 *TheOtherSandra Bullock

14:51 *TheOtherSandra is now known as Bullock

14:51 bnchs; i don't know what you're doing

14:51 Bullock; banter

14:51 *Bullock is now known as schestowitz-TR

14:52 gooseheaded; HAHA

14:52 bnchs; forgot that 2

14:52 schestowitz-TR; no, I've downgraded

14:52 bnchs;

14:52 gooseheaded; aaa

14:53 bnchs; i think i changed my text cursor to overwrite mode

14:53 TR News; Spamnil's site, once known as "Muktware", then "TheMurk", then "LinuxVeda", has become a spamfarm

14:53 bnchs; who's spamnil

14:55 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/12/09/linux-com-spamfarm/

14:55 TR Bot; Linux.com Has Become Microsoft Spam and Spamnil | Techrights

14:56 gooseheaded; my uhh

14:56 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/weekend-random-randomness-3-13-22-12.jpg

14:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/weekend-random-randomness-3-13-22-12.jpg

14:56 gooseheaded; fonts keep changing...

14:56 gooseheaded; :-|

14:57 bnchs; lol linux kernel zen

14:58 TR News; "March 14, 2022: We oppose the blocking of Instagram in Russia.", The title should say "INVASION", not "conflict" https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/

14:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/

14:58 TR Bot; Updates: Digital rights in the Ukraine-Russia conflict - Access Now

14:58 TR News; Ubuntu Touch could breathe new life into the troubled JingPad A1 Linux tablet Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162531

14:58 TR Bot; Ubuntu Touch could breathe new life into the troubled JingPad A1 Linux tablet | Tux Machines

14:58 bnchs; arch linux updates ISOs every month

14:59 TR News; Russia now does what Bezos has long done with AWS, so don't miss the hypocrisy of his reckless propaganda rag. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/14/russias-becoming-more-digitally-isolated/

14:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/14/russias-becoming-more-digitally-isolated/

14:59 TR Bot; Russias becoming more digitally isolated - The Washington Post

3 PM, March 14

15:04 gooseheaded; lol

15:04 gooseheaded; bnchs,

15:04 gooseheaded; i use.../\

15:04 bnchs; hexchat 2.16.1?

15:04 gooseheaded; /exec -o uname -r

15:04 gooseheaded; o

15:04 gooseheaded; :-|

15:04 gooseheaded; 5.16.14-zen1-1-zen

15:04 gooseheaded; lol

15:04 gooseheaded; yes...

15:04 gooseheaded; lol ... and i like to use gnome?

15:04 bnchs; yes your CTCP version has your linux kernel versio

15:04 gooseheaded; O_O

15:04 gooseheaded; oh yes...

15:04 gooseheaded; uhh

15:05 gooseheaded; Client: HexChat 2.16.1 OS: ArchLinux CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10750H CPU @ 2.60GHz (2.60GHz) Memory: 15.1GiB Total (13.0GiB Free) Storage: 1.2TB / 2.0TB (801.6GB Free) VGA: NVIDIA Corporation TU106M [GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile] @ Intel Corporation 10th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers Uptime: 1h 0m 37s

15:05 gooseheaded; this ^

15:05 gooseheaded; i've been using arch since 2010?

15:05 gooseheaded; lol

15:05 gooseheaded; :-D

15:05 bnchs; hmm

15:05 bnchs; i'm using arch currently

15:05 gooseheaded; it is the best that i have known ever ahah.

15:06 gooseheaded; the most sanely composed *nix distribution, imho..

15:06 gooseheaded; but then i am running OpenBSD 7.0 on my VPS...

15:06 gooseheaded; :-D

15:06 SomeH4x0r; I doubt systemd is sane

15:06 SomeH4x0r; it violates Unix philosophy

15:07 bnchs; yes systemd is insane shit

15:07 bnchs; maybe migrate to parabola

15:07 SomeH4x0r; and it is too big, at some point they might start inserting spyware

15:07 bnchs; if you want both a free as in freedom and non-systemd OS

15:07 bnchs; or artix if you want non-systemd arch

15:07 bnchs; parabola = free as in freedom and non-system arch linux

15:08 SomeH4x0r; afaik Parabola has systemd by default still

15:08 bnchs; there's no "default"

15:08 bnchs; you have 2 options

15:08 bnchs; openrc or systemd

15:08 bnchs; i remember when arch linux used sysvinit

15:11 MinceR; it was less shit back then

15:11 MinceR; but not by much

15:11 SomeH4x0r; did Artix follow Arch Linux in dropping 32-bit support?

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15:12 SomeH4x0r; 32-bit users are under attack now

15:13 gooseheaded; https://i.ibb.co/HHtp1TK/275618815-503228331296093-841338054196791467-n.jpg

15:13 gooseheaded; bn

15:13 gooseheaded; omg

15:13 gooseheaded; she left...

15:13 gooseheaded; that was sandra...

15:18 TR News; Targeted WebID for privacy in Solid https://kushaldas.in/posts/targeted-webid-for-privacy-in-solid.html

15:18 TR Bot; Targeted WebID for privacy in Solid

15:18 gooseheaded; this is my research article...

15:18 gooseheaded; https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357700451_The_NOTES

15:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: researchgate.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357700451_The_NOTES

15:18 gooseheaded; :-D

15:18 TR Bot; (PDF) The NOTES!

15:19 TR News; "Hello and welcome to the 458th installment of Linux in the Ham Shack" https://lhspodcast.info/2022/03/lhs-episode-458-spf-25-2/

15:19 TR Bot; LHS Episode #458: SPF 25 | Linux in the Ham Shack

15:22 TR News; "I remember that my mother told me there was a child cancer help organization where she lives and she also donated to them, but it turned out that the manager just spent the money on himself buying new cars, etc." gopher://sdfeu.org:70/0/users/glaciurso/phlog/2022-03-13__DnB.md

15:23 TR News; "My job is mostly remote and in front of a computer. I had to pick up my equipment last week and have been spending a bit of time getting my work-battlestation situated." gopher://sdf.org:70/1/users/xiled/phlog/2022/20220312_update

15:27 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emMBMmB1IzE

15:27 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=emMBMmB1IzE

15:27 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Did Any Musicians Actually Put Backwards Satanic Messages in Their Songs? - Invidious

15:29 schestowitz; MinceR: very long spam in there

15:29 schestowitz; over 1 minute of spam at the start

15:30 MinceR; use sponsorblock then

15:33 schestowitz; other than that

15:33 schestowitz; the video lacks music

15:33 schestowitz; or sounds

15:33 schestowitz; to make the point

15:33 schestowitz; those would help

15:33 schestowitz; avon garde stuff

15:33 MinceR; goolag likes to block those

15:33 schestowitz-TR; he shows album coves

15:33 schestowitz-TR; those are copyrighted too

15:39 TR News; "For reasons unknown to everybody including myself, I love writing C. Maybe I'm just a masochist, but I find that once you get a personal standard library of useful snippets built up it's pretty pleasant to writeas long as you don't try to get too clever (confusing) with your code." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-07-23.gmi

15:39 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgnxxTECLBo&list=PLTf8eZ-qYpG5L2lfo2ulBKyw01xUZvcoO

15:39 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hgnxxTECLBo

15:39 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Don't Stop Christmas Now - (Mariah Carey, Queen) - Mashup - Invidious

15:40 TR News; "it does require the reader to have a GitHub account though." Terrible idea. gemini://gemini.lottalinuxlinks.com/posts/2021-01-23-using-mastodon-for-comments-on-a-static-blog.gmi

15:42 TR News; 10 Common Security Mistakes Sysadmins Make & How To Avoid These Pitfalls https://linuxsecurity.com/features/10-common-security-mistakes-sysadmins-make-how-to-avoid-these-pitfalls

15:42 TR Bot; 10 Common Security Mistakes Sysadmins Make & How To Avoid These Pit...

15:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxsecurity.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxsecurity.com/features/10-common-security-mistakes-sysadmins-make-how-to-avoid-these-pitfalls

15:44 TR News; Seeing the rapid growth of Geminispace (1,600 working capsules was less than 2 months ago, see above!) and having failed to keep up with key capsules, weve made this planet page, which helps find articles/posts of interest http://techrights.org/2022/03/14/planet-gemini/

15:44 TR Bot; Planet Gemini: Many Capsules in One Gemini Page | Techrights

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15:59 MinceR; https://www.madmagazine.com/sites/default/files/imce/MAD-Magazine-Alfred-Quote-2-24-2014_5304e8681a7df3.05651360.jpg

4 PM, March 14

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16:07 MinceR; i wonder what they call ScrumMasters at ibm

16:07 MinceR; and MICROS~1

16:08 schestowitz-TR; ScumMains

16:08 schestowitz-TR; Scum is OK

16:08 schestowitz-TR; nobody gets offended

16:08 MinceR; :>

16:08 MinceR; could be ScrumPrimaries

16:08 schestowitz-TR; ScumPrimates

16:08 schestowitz-TR; e.g. your boss

16:09 MinceR; lol

16:10 *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights

16:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.93 k/sec., IPFS upstream 30.28 average k/sec., average swarm size 277.12

16:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.93 k/sec., IPFS upstream 30.28 average k/sec., average swarm size 277.12

16:11 TR News; [Meme] The Scabs Patent Office? | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/14/scabs-patent-office/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/14/scabs-patent-office/

16:11 TR Bot; [Meme] The Scabs Patent Office? | Techrights

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16:35 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/horse-manure-bag.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/02/made-to-look-like-muffins/ )

16:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: engrish.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/horse-manure-bag.jpg

16:35 TR Bot; Made to look like muffins

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16:53 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_3ryUVaIvU

16:53 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T_3ryUVaIvU

16:53 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Talkative cat meowing loudly is so cute - Invidious

5 PM, March 14

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17:10 ZNC; lol

17:13 schestowitz; for new dociment

17:13 schestowitz; "You can read the full report, including the reasoned opinions of the CSC members of the GCC, on the three items here."

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17:28 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/fire-on-everyone.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/03/fire-away/ )

17:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: engrish.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/fire-on-everyone.jpg

17:28 TR Bot; Fire away

17:31 ZNC; freebsd has backmasked satanic messages in the songs included in the iso

17:31 MinceR; they backmasked the CoC into the songs?

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17:32 ZNC; im not a CoC expert

17:35 ZNC; im more of a cat person

17:36 MinceR; :>

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6 PM, March 14

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18:20 bnchs; should you call red hat "red twat"

18:21 MinceR; :)

18:22 bnchs; i remember this from when linux got a one-time parody website in GTA IV

18:23 bnchs; they made out the linux community as this male-only space

18:23 bnchs; where any females participating will immediately get harassed

18:25 bnchs; "A young woman in Alderney City, who installed the Eunux open-source operating system on her home computer, has become the victim of an evil hate campaign."

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18:57 TR News; Lowered Quality and Standards at the EPO, Not Only Departure from the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/14/outsourcing-epo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/14/outsourcing-epo/

18:57 TR Bot; Lowered Quality and Standards at the EPO, Not Only Departure from the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights

7 PM, March 14

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19:07 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/warning-made-in-china.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/03/let-me-stop-you-right-there/ )

19:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: engrish.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/warning-made-in-china.jpg

19:07 TR Bot; Let me stop you right there

19:08 XRevan86; https://t.me/mustum/844

19:08 TR Bot; Telegram: Contact @mustum

19:09 MinceR; wants to run xdg-open, but it's not happening

19:24 TR News; "One year after the original projected shipping date, and 13 months after the revelation that the phone will require a new SoC and a complete redesign, F(x)tec have finally announced that the Pro1 X is ready for final assembly" gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202203/20220314-2022-week-9-10-thoughts-and-photos.gmi

19:25 TR News; "You may violently disagree with the inflammatory accusation that comes next, but if this is the case, is there any other word for software that repeatedly surprises its users through frequent design changes than this?: Buggy." gemini://marginalia.nu/log/50-meditation-on-software-correctness.gmi

19:26 TR News; "When going to popular Web sites like YouTube or Twitter, or even seeing commercials on TV, I can no longer tune out the scores of scantily-clad women, over-decorated plates of fatty food, unaffordable high-end sports cars, and all sorts of material decadence that dont bring any real happiness." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/web-sluts

19:31 TR News; In Spite of NHS Changes to Reporting Definitions (to Make Numbers Seem a Lot Lower), Another Surge in COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalisations http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/14/covid-cases-have-surged/

19:31 TR Bot; Blog Archive In Spite of NHS Changes to Reporting Definitions (to Make Numbers Seem a Lot Lower), Another Surge in COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalisations

19:31 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162532

19:31 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines

19:31 TR News; Get a better snap package manager with this GNOME extension Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162533

19:31 TR Bot; Get a better snap package manager with this GNOME extension | Tux Machines

19:31 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162534

19:31 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

19:34 TR News; Linux 5.17 delayed after vulnerability discovered in AMD process http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162505#comment-33064

19:34 TR Bot; Linux 5.17-rc8 | Tux Machines

19:34 TR News; RK3588-powered mini-PC offers HDMI in and out http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162462#comment-33063

19:34 TR Bot; $249 Rockchip RK3588 8K mini PC comes with up to 16GB RAM | Tux Machines

19:37 schestowitz; [18:20] <bnchs> should you call red hat "red twat"

19:37 schestowitz; it is enough to say IBM Red Hat

19:37 schestowitz; that does enough damage already

19:37 schestowitz; for a whole lot of reasons

19:38 schestowitz; same for "Microsoft GitHub"

19:38 schestowitz; a lot of people forgot, did not know, or chose to forget who runs this prison

19:39 schestowitz; [17:31] <MinceR> they backmasked the CoC into the songs?

19:39 schestowitz; just the letters

19:39 schestowitz; and the checksum was still OK

19:40 schestowitz; then they tried backmasking SATAN

19:40 schestowitz; and it didn't work

19:40 schestowitz; so they stried SATYA

19:40 schestowitz; it worked

19:40 MinceR; :>

19:40 schestowitz; it's the same thing

19:41 TR News; Phoronix.NET. "Windows code samples around DirectStorage and other resources can be found via Microsoft DirectStorage on GitHub." Thank you, Micahel, for this Microsoft marketing. Now, we we get back on the site's topic? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-DirectStorage-API

19:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-DirectStorage-API

19:41 TR Bot; Makes The DirectStorage API Officially Available - Phoronix

19:47 TR News; Usage of WebP format on the WWW is an accessibility issue. Webmasters should be BLASTED for using this Gulag format. Gulag hates accessibility and hates the Web.

19:47 TR News; Meet 7 GNU tools that are the power of the command line Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162535

19:47 TR Bot; Meet 7 GNU tools that are the power of the command line | Tux Machines

19:48 TR News; VLC 3.0.17 Released with DAV Video Playback Support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162536

19:48 TR Bot; VLC 3.0.17 Released with DAV Video Playback Support | Tux Machines

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19:49 TR News; No! Microsoft makes NOTHING "Secure-By-Design"; it makes its things BACK-DOORED.... yes, BY DESIGN https://mytechdecisions.com/it-infrastructure/microsoft-defender-for-iot/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA

19:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mytechdecisions.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mytechdecisions.com/it-infrastructure/microsoft-defender-for-iot/

19:49 TR Bot; New Microsoft Defender for IoT Capabilities Helps Create Secure-By-Design Devices - My TechDecisions

19:49 TR Bot; Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights

19:50 bnchs; "secure by design"

19:50 bnchs; also only allowing governments and corporations access to it's source code

19:50 TR News; Webspam disguised as "review" https://www.maketecheasier.com/review/emeet-c970-webcam/ see the site's section where they sell FAKE 'review'. http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/news-as-spam/ WWW = SPAM.

19:50 TR Bot; eMeet C970 Webcam Review: Affordable Addition to Any Computer - Make Tech Easier

19:50 TR Bot; The Different Types of Spammy Articles and Reviews Which Have Killed Professional Journalism (Nowadays Mostly SPAM) | Techrights

19:51 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: "divine protection"

19:51 bnchs; yes

19:51 schestowitz-TR; gimme covid

19:51 bnchs; i like allowing govs access to the source code

19:51 schestowitz-TR; I have "divine protection"

19:51 bnchs; especially with windows being so technical debt

19:51 bnchs; and shit

19:52 bnchs; i like having govs early access to vulnerabilites

19:52 bnchs; so that they can abuse it to target users

19:52 TR News; COVID-10 is killing more people this spring/summer than in the summer of 2021 and 2020 http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/14/covid-cases-have-surged/

19:52 TR Bot; Blog Archive In Spite of NHS Changes to Reporting Definitions (to Make Numbers Seem a Lot Lower), Another Surge in COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalisations

19:53 TR News; Building a Retro Linux Gaming Computer - Part 16: We Are All Doomed | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/building-a-retro-linux-gaming-computer-part-16-we-are-all-doomed

19:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/building-a-retro-linux-gaming-computer-part-16-we-are-all-doomed

19:53 TR Bot; a Retro Linux Gaming Computer - Part 16: We Are All Doomed | GamingOnLinux

19:54 TR News; Apex Legends now broken on Steam Deck and Linux desktops | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/apex-legends-now-broken-on-steam-deck-and-linux-desktops

19:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/apex-legends-now-broken-on-steam-deck-and-linux-desktops

19:54 TR Bot; Legends now broken on Steam Deck and Linux desktops | GamingOnLinux

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19:54 TR News; More than 80% of Steam Deck Verified/Playable Games Are From 2015 onwards - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/more-than-80-of-steam-deck-verified-playable-games-are-from-2015-onwards/

19:54 TR Bot; More than 80% of Steam Deck Verified/Playable Games Are From 2015 onwards - Boiling Steam

19:55 TR News; Very disappointing that Marcel Gagne (former Linux Journal staff) is peddling Microsoft proprietary crap today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxILWGYW990

19:55 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XxILWGYW990

19:55 bnchs; "a patch came in and it has removed the Linux Easy Anti-Cheat file so the game will boot you out telling you it's not working."

19:56 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Checking out my new Minecraft Creeper Crunch cereal - Invidious

19:56 bnchs; lol apex legends obviously intentionally broke their game

19:56 bnchs; on the steam deck

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8 PM, March 14

20:00 SomeH4x0r; rootkit

20:00 schestowitz-TR; yeah

20:00 schestowitz-TR; it's a mindset

20:00 schestowitz-TR; teh customers are evil

20:01 schestowitz-TR; sony did that too

20:03 TR News; "Lynis is a free and open-source security auditing tool and released as a GPL licensed project and is available for Linux and Unix-based Operating systems like MacOS, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and so on." https://www.howtoforge.com/exploring-the-lynis-audit-report/

20:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: howtoforge.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.howtoforge.com/exploring-the-lynis-audit-report/

20:03 TR Bot; Exploring the Lynis Audit Report

20:03 TR News; GStreamer 1.20.1 stable bug fix release Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162537

20:03 TR Bot; GStreamer 1.20.1 stable bug fix release | Tux Machines

20:04 TR News; High Availability Farming " The Repair Association https://www.repair.org/blog/2022/3/14/high-availability-farming Digital Restrictions (DRM)

20:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: repair.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.repair.org/blog/2022/3/14/high-availability-farming

20:04 TR Bot; High Availability Farming The Repair Association

20:05 bnchs; yes

20:05 bnchs; client-side anti-cheats are rootkits

20:05 TR News; Microsoft has infiltrated another Postgres event or merely bought the keynote slot https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/citus-con-an-event-for-postgresschedule-speakers-announced-2419/

20:05 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: Citus Con: An Event for PostgresSchedule & Speakers announced!

20:06 bnchs; and they're the quick and dirty fix to cheating

20:06 bnchs; "fix"

20:06 TR News; "We're pleased to announce the availability of Datasentinel for PostgreSQL version 2022.02" https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/datasentinel-version-202202-released-2420/

20:06 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: Datasentinel Version 2022.02 released

20:06 bnchs; which will be broken if the user manages to modify the client

20:06 bnchs; which is why client-side anti-cheats are unrealistic

20:06 bnchs; the best way to go is server-side anti-cheats

20:08 bnchs; in fact free software multiplayer games always have server-side anti-cheats

20:08 ZNC; also the game shoulf be rendred at the server and just streamed to the clients

20:08 bnchs; because they really can't do client-side anti-cheat

20:08 bnchs; ZNC: go away with your gaming clown idea

20:08 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162538

20:08 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

20:09 ZNC; if the game engine was running on the server there couldn't be cheats

20:09 ZNC; gaming clown?

20:09 TR News; Fresche Solutions [sic] Acquires Linux [sic] and IBM Security [sic] Services [sic] Company Trinity Guard [sic] - MSSP Alert https://www.msspalert.com/investments/fresche-solutions-acquires-linux-and-ibm-security-services-company-trinity-guard/

20:09 bnchs; yes

20:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: msspalert.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.msspalert.com/investments/fresche-solutions-acquires-linux-and-ibm-security-services-company-trinity-guard/

20:09 TR Bot; Fresche Solutions Acquires Linux and IBM Security Services Company Trinity Guard - MSSP Alert

20:09 bnchs; what you just said is basically just gaming clown

20:10 ZNC; its the same thing you are saying

20:10 ZNC; only better

20:10 schestowitz-TR; those are a waste of bandwidtyh

20:10 schestowitz-TR; and this electricity too

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20:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.63 k/sec., IPFS upstream 30.81 average k/sec., average swarm size 277.16

20:10 schestowitz-TR; more pollution

20:10 ZNC; bandwidty might

20:10 bnchs; ZNC: what i'm saying is server-side anti cheat

20:11 ZNC; electricity no

20:11 bnchs; what you're saying is nobody owns their game

20:11 schestowitz-TR; why not just lower latency and throughout by putting the computation unit next to the monitor?

20:11 schestowitz-TR; these companies are INSANE

20:11 bnchs; it's essentially at the mercy of the clown

20:11 schestowitz-TR; like netflix eating up the Internet capacity

20:11 schestowitz-TR; to stream shite you could play off of DVDs

20:11 schestowitz-TR; S Korea wanted to fine Netflix for this

20:11 ZNC; thats the only way anti cheat can work

20:12 bnchs; ZNC: so basically

20:12 bnchs; nobody owns their game

20:12 SomeH4x0r; I think you can still use something like aimbot on this

20:12 bnchs; yes

20:12 bnchs; using hey hi technology

20:12 bnchs; you can scan the screen for players

20:13 ZNC; how would the client know that was a player?

20:13 TR News; Games: Building a Retro GNU/Linux Gaming Computer and Some Deck Stuff Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162539

20:13 TR Bot; Games: Building a Retro GNU/Linux Gaming Computer and Some Deck Stuff | Tux Machines

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20:14 ZNC; best hipotse is having a pixel movemnt detection

20:14 ZNC; but that wouldnt work well

20:14 bnchs; how about this

20:15 bnchs; server-side anti cheats

20:15 bnchs; i don't want gaming clown

20:15 ZNC; that will never work just has client side fosent

20:15 schestowitz-TR; server-side anti cheats

20:15 schestowitz-TR; how would that work

20:15 schestowitz-TR; explain

20:15 schestowitz-TR; it's like proctoring malware

20:15 schestowitz-TR; they want to take complete control of your machine

20:16 schestowitz-TR; and in effect control it remoately

20:16 schestowitz-TR; inc. peripherals

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20:16 ZNC; i guess thats their angle also

20:16 schestowitz-TR; even if 'the clown' checked' up on you

20:16 schestowitz-TR; how would it know you do NOT use an aitbot?

20:16 schestowitz-TR; *aimbot

20:16 ZNC; streaming wouldnt need to have conytol over your machine

20:17 schestowitz-TR; ZNC: but they want access to peripherals

20:17 schestowitz-TR; in clown gaming you just send them signals from your machine

20:17 ZNC; actually wayland should work perfect fot this

20:17 schestowitz-TR; which is a closed box to them

20:17 schestowitz-TR; 'black' box

20:17 schestowitz-TR; can I still use that term?

20:17 schestowitz-TR; blackbox?

20:17 TR News; Security and Digital Restrictions (DRM) Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162540

20:17 TR Bot; Security and Digital Restrictions (DRM) Leftovers | Tux Machines

20:18 ZNC; no

20:18 ZNC; darkbox

20:18 TR News; Updates on the new generation of Fedora MediaWriter Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162541

20:18 TR Bot; Updates on the new generation of Fedora MediaWriter | Tux Machines

20:18 schestowitz-TR; darktable

20:18 ZNC; for the moment

20:18 SomeH4x0r; I think they wouldn't like "dark" either

20:18 schestowitz-TR; there's also a gnu/linux de/wm called blackbox

20:18 schestowitz-TR; i wonder if they already got harassed for that

20:19 ZNC; its fluxbox forked by racists

20:19 schestowitz; Cleese https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/john-cleese-sxsw-panel-1235109668/

20:19 TR Bot; John Cleese Went Off on Slavery at SXSW as Crowd Cringed The Hollywood Reporter

20:19 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hollywoodreporter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/john-cleese-sxsw-panel-1235109668/

20:20 TR News; Rakudo Weekly News: 2022.11 Tau / 2 https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/03/14/2022-011-tau-2/

20:20 TR Bot; 2022.11 Tau / 2 Rakudo Weekly News

20:22 TR News; Do we want this cargo cult in KDE toolchains/build systems? "The bindings currently use the git version of qttypes since I had to merge some upstream changes that are needed for these bindings. So they are not ready for prime time just yet." https://programmershideaway.xyz/posts/post4/

20:22 TR Bot; Programmer's Hideaway | Using KConfig with Rust

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20:23 ZNC; https://gadgets360.com/internet/news/ethical-hackers-ukraine-security-researchers-hackerone-bug-bounty-payouts-withhold-update-russia-2822078

20:23 TR Bot; Ukraine Ethical Hackers Bewildered as HackerOne Bug Bounty Platform Said to Halt Their Payouts | Technology News

20:24 ZNC; there's also blackhat hackers gathering

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20:25 TR News; "For the unaffiliated, markdown's entire reason for existence is for nothing other than rendering to HTML. It has literally no other purpose in existence." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2022-01-30.gmi

20:25 TR News; Improving the reliability of file system monitoring tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162542

20:25 TR Bot; Improving the reliability of file system monitoring tools | Tux Machines

20:26 schestowitz-TR; ZNC: even the term Red Hat is a bit disrty

20:26 schestowitz-TR; since 2015 or 2016

20:26 schestowitz-TR; there are connotations

20:26 schestowitz-TR; when you wear a red hat, usually baseball cap

20:26 schestowitz-TR; that is red

20:26 schestowitz-TR; remember that young, the founder, was wearing just that

20:27 schestowitz-TR; a red baseball cap

20:27 schestowitz-TR; he was balding

20:27 ZNC; Red Hat is a distro ro hack the reds soviets/comunists

20:27 schestowitz-TR; nowadays people might ask, about this guy from North Carolina, is he a Republican?

20:28 TR News; "I'm using Steam Deck as my main PC for working and gaming, so I'm making a series of guides (USING THE DECK!) aimed at new Linux users. In this video, learn how to get to Desktop Mode, manage a monitor, and connect up your keyboard, mouse and game controllers." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=a_mogv5tCm8

20:28 TR Bot; Steam Deck Desktop Guide: Connect USB-C Hubs and External Monitors - Invidious

20:28 TR News; 269: Deep Dive Into Lesser Known Web Browsers - Destination Linux https://destinationlinux.org/episode-269/

20:28 TR Bot; 269: Deep Dive Into Lesser Known Web Browsers - Destination Linux

20:29 TR News; "We all know that linux distros are named but did you know that the kernals also get the same treatment and some of these names are absolutely incredible." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oAOgxEMveaE

20:29 TR Bot; Did You Know Linux Kernel Releases Are Named?? - Invidious

20:29 TR News; "In this video, I will discuss three of the basic command line utilities: cat, tac and tee. These commands are useful for printing the contents of files to standard output and concatenating files." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KL29jcWu-1E

20:29 TR Bot; Essential Linux Commands - Cat, Tac and Tee - Invidious

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20:29 ZNC; Steam Deck is slower running windows that running linux even with the emulation costs

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20:34 TR News; Pi Day: Pi calculated to more than 62.8 trillion digits Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162543

20:35 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVyCjweagJM

20:35 TR Bot; Pi Day: Pi calculated to more than 62.8 trillion digits | Tux Machines

20:35 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gVyCjweagJM

20:35 TR Bot; yewtu.be | SGI Octane: What can a $30,000 computer from the 90's do ? - Invidious

20:35 TR News; Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: DistroTube, Brodie Robertson, Destination Linux, Linux For Everyone, and Linux in the Ham Shack Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162544

20:35 schestowitz-TR; ZNC: DRM overdrive

20:35 TR Bot; Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: DistroTube, Brodie Robertson, Destination Linux, Linux For Everyone, and Linux in the Ham Shack | Tux Machines

20:36 schestowitz; "Fat operating systems spend most of their energy supporting their own fat."

20:36 schestowitz; -Nicholas Negroponte, MIT Media Lab, rediff.com, Apr 2006

20:37 TR News; According to internal documents, the EPO President intends to expand the Pan-European Seal Programme, which was explained last year http://techrights.org/2022/03/14/scabs-patent-office/

20:37 TR Bot; [Meme] The Scabs Patent Office? | Techrights

20:37 ZNC; also i don't think there's a windows optimized driver for the hardwear

20:37 TR News; The EPOs management is planting the seeds for the EPOs (and EPCs) destruction, misusing COVID-19 and diversity as pretexts for outsourcing and crushing of salaries, rights, and so on http://techrights.org/2022/03/14/outsourcing-epo/

20:38 TR Bot; Lowered Quality and Standards at the EPO, Not Only Departure from the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights

20:38 schestowitz-TR; Linux = hardware

20:38 schestowitz-TR; Windows = underwear

20:38 schestowitz-TR; ZNC: hardwear

20:39 schestowitz-TR; you have it wearable

20:39 schestowitz-TR; and it's hard

20:39 TR News; Nala: A Prettier Frontend for the APT Command Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162545

20:39 TR Bot; Nala: A Prettier Frontend for the APT Command | Tux Machines

20:39 TR News; UK official numbers: After about 92% of the grown-ups here have received at least one jab the issue is clearly far from solved (and war on Ukraine does not make this something we can simply ignore) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/14/covid-cases-have-surged/

20:40 TR Bot; Blog Archive In Spite of NHS Changes to Reporting Definitions (to Make Numbers Seem a Lot Lower), Another Surge in COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalisations

20:40 TR News; This is going to be the worse summer in the UK wrt COVID-19 (worse than 2021 and 2020) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/10/raw-nhs-numbers/

20:41 TR Bot; timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/10/raw-nhs-numbers/ )

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20:44 TR News; (By no means Trump apologism) Trump was in office for 14 months with COVID-19. Biden? The same. On Biden's watch more people died with COVID-19. It turns out a virus doesn't give a shit about who runs the White House. The pandemic response was similarly appalling and STILL... all the jabs are massively overpriced due to patents!

20:45 TR News; We have a COVID-19-friendly policy in the UK. So this will be the worst summer (feels like spring already). http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/10/mass-infection-strategy/

20:45 TR Bot; Blog Archive Borisnaros Mass Infection Strategy

20:45 TR News; Module and dev kit extend octa-core MediaTek i500 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162546

20:45 TR Bot; Module and dev kit extend octa-core MediaTek i500 | Tux Machines

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20:46 ZNC; Facebook Says Users Can't Post Calls To Assassinate Putin

20:47 MinceR; fuckerberg lied? what a shocker.

20:47 ZNC; i eard they can do that to russians

20:47 ZNC; last time i checked putin is russian

20:49 ZNC; maybe cause the kgb reads this FB threads and will eventually assassinate your entire family

20:50 MinceR; the kgb, from belarus?

20:50 ZNC; what do you mean?

20:50 MinceR; russia renamed the kgb long ago

20:51 MinceR; only belarus kept the name on theirs

20:51 ZNC; its kgb2.0

20:52 ZNC; facebook also change its name

20:52 ZNC; see the parallelism ?

20:53 MinceR; MICROS~1 also likes to rename things that people hate

20:53 ZNC; cause they are inteligent

20:55 ZNC; google kills them and then respwans another instance with less functionality

20:56 ZNC; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-is-testing-ads-in-the-windows-11-file-explorer/

20:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-is-testing-ads-in-the-windows-11-file-explorer/

20:56 TR Bot; Microsoft is testing ads in the Windows 11 File Explorer

20:56 ZNC; probablly related to the files you are browsing

20:57 psydroid2; what will people tolerate until enough is enough?

20:57 psydroid2; even after all this some trolls says GNU/Linux is not a proper replacement

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20:59 ZNC; why GNU/Linux also shows ads in the filebrowser?

20:59 ZNC; :>

20:59 SomeH4x0r; where actually?

20:59 MinceR; probably not GNU/Linux

9 PM, March 14

21:00 ZNC; ubuntu did had ads on the search thing

21:00 MinceR; +

21:00 SomeH4x0r; oh

21:01 MinceR; that's ubuntu, not GNU/Linux :>

21:07 ZNC; at least ubuntu toke it out after community backlash good luck windows giving a fuck about the users

21:08 ZNC; i think MS like to have a SM relation with its clients

21:09 ZNC; see what i did there?

21:09 ZNC; :>

21:09 ZNC; MS SM

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21:10 ZNC; OMG i shocked GNUmoon2

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21:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I talked to Walmart about this and they said nobody sent any orders to an account with my phone number, address, or name on it.

21:14 ZNC; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ubisoft-confirms-cyber-security-incident-resets-staff-passwords/

21:14 Alternative link; Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ubisoft-confirms-cyber-security-incident-resets-staff-passwords/

21:14 DaemonFC; So what's up with that phone call I got from that lady with the "private number" this morning?

21:14 TR Bot; Ubisoft confirms 'cyber security incident', resets staff passwords

21:14 DaemonFC; I changed my Walmart account to "passwordless".

21:14 ZNC; so much for server side anti cheats

21:14 DaemonFC; It sends a one time code to my phone every time anything tries to sign in now. Just in case.

21:15 ZNC; the hacker can also ready it ?

21:16 immibis; DaemonFC: spam?

21:16 ZNC; cury spam

21:16 ZNC; lol

21:17 DaemonFC; I got a phone call this morning from a woman saying someone added my phone number and address to her account and then ordered a bunch of stuff on Walmart.

21:17 ZNC; how do you know its a woman?

21:17 ZNC; dont be sexist now

21:19 ZNC; or was it the same person that called you?

21:19 schestowitz-TR; yes

21:19 schestowitz-TR; read carefully

21:20 ZNC; someone

21:21 schestowitz-TR; usually a young boy and a woman can sound the same

21:21 schestowitz-TR; but assuming Walmart does not employ kids, DaemonFC can tell it's a woman

21:21 schestowitz-TR; nothing sexist about that

21:22 immibis; DaemonFC: so someone testing credit cards put in a random number

21:22 DaemonFC; Okay, why would a child have a Walmart.com account with a credit card on it?

21:23 DaemonFC; Also, why would a child sound like a woman in her 40s or 50s?

21:23 DaemonFC; It's logical to assume that it's a woman.

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21:28 ZNC; maybe its a gay man

21:30 schestowitz-TR; gay men are men

21:30 schestowitz-TR; and sound like men

21:30 schestowitz-TR; some try not to

21:30 schestowitz-TR; I mean, look

21:30 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC is a bit of a bigot

21:31 schestowitz-TR; but this is not a good example of it

21:31 schestowitz-TR; also, DaemonFC is gay

21:33 TR News; yeah.... cause all your ever wanted and needed is a BLOODY SPEAKER.... near the WATER https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/tronsmart-groove-waterproof-bluetooth-speaker/

21:33 TR Bot; Get a Tronsmart Groove Waterproof Bluetooth Speaker for Under $12 - Make Tech Easier

21:33 TR News; Best Linux Distros in 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162547

21:33 TR Bot; Best Linux Distros in 2022 | Tux Machines

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21:41 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162548

21:41 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

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21:45 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/te2um7/does_anyone_know_what_kind_of_tree_that_stick_is/

21:45 TR Bot; Does anyone know what kind of tree that stick is from? My wife wants to know. [NSFW] : funny

21:46 DaemonFC; Reddit is having issues.

21:47 schestowitz-TR; it always had issues

21:48 TR News; links-1432022-vlc-3-0-17-and-gstreamer-1-20-1 | Gemini address: links-1432022-vlc-3-0-17-and-gstreamer-1-20-1

21:48 TR News; Links 14/3/2022: VLC 3.0.17 and GStreamer 1.20.1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/14/vlc-3-0-17-and-gstreamer-1-20-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/14/vlc-3-0-17-and-gstreamer-1-20-1/

21:48 TR Bot; Links 14/3/2022: VLC 3.0.17 and GStreamer 1.20.1 | Techrights

21:49 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162549

21:49 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

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21:52 ZNC; refit is 4chann wannabe

21:52 TR News; "Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 726 for the week of March 6 12, 2022. The full version of this issue is available here." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/03/14/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-726/

21:52 TR Bot; Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 726

21:52 schestowitz-TR; 4chan for suits

21:52 schestowitz-TR; the suits who manage the site

21:54 TR News; Deflecting and distracting from Microsoft and its back doors, which cause billions in damages every month https://www.channele2e.com/influencers/mac-linux-security-msps/ see http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/

21:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: channele2e.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.channele2e.com/influencers/mac-linux-security-msps/

21:54 TR Bot; and the Rising Tide of Mac and Linux Cyberthreats - ChannelE2E

21:54 TR Bot; Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights

21:56 bnchs__; schestowitz-TR> how would that work

21:56 bnchs__; server-side anti cheats means

21:56 bnchs__; that the anti cheats are done entirely server-side

21:56 bnchs__; instead of client

21:56 schestowitz-TR; just got a message from thw webhost

21:56 schestowitz-TR; they increase prices

21:57 schestowitz-TR; while using misleading words

21:57 schestowitz-TR; to make that seem like a GoodTHing

21:57 ZNC; for them its a good rhing

21:57 schestowitz-TR; oh, not a big change

21:57 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 52.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 277.18

21:57 bnchs__; yes

21:57 schestowitz-TR; I see now, the change seems relatively small for my sort of "package"

21:58 bnchs__; webhosting

21:58 bnchs__; why don't you buy yur own server

21:58 schestowitz-TR; they increase disk space limits

21:58 schestowitz-TR; and raise the prices a bit

21:58 ZNC; the problem with this world is that no one puts them self in others peoples shoes anymore

21:59 bnchs__; reddit is mostly populated by soyboys

21:59 schestowitz-TR; [21:58] <ZNC> the problem with this world is that no one puts them self in others peoples shoes anymore

21:59 schestowitz-TR; b/w is the issue

21:59 schestowitz-TR; you need a datacente is you host images

10 PM, March 14

22:00 schestowitz-TR; otherwise upstream speeds are an issue

22:00 schestowitz-TR; with fibre that might change a little

22:00 ZNC; i remember when isps would give you webhosting space for "free"

22:00 bnchs__; ZNC: uh h

22:00 schestowitz-TR; but if many people self-host, ISPs will start enforcing and cracking down

22:00 bnchs__; it's "free"

22:00 bnchs__; for a reason

22:00 bnchs__; it has government root backdoor

22:00 schestowitz-TR; so it's expensive to go to another ISP

22:00 schestowitz-TR; you lose your email account

22:00 schestowitz-TR; and thus lose messages and contacts

22:00 schestowitz-TR; with webspace it's another lock-in

22:01 schestowitz-TR; something you cannot redirec

22:01 ZNC; thats why i never use it

22:01 schestowitz-TR; it's "free"

22:01 schestowitz-TR; as long as you do not leave us

22:01 bnchs__; there's a reason why it's "free"

22:01 bnchs__; it has backdoors

22:01 schestowitz-TR; in the 1990s my email address was an isp one

22:01 bnchs__; it most likely isn't secure

22:02 schestowitz-TR; to be fair, they've hardly increased their prices in nearly 20 years (!)

22:02 ZNC; i used to have a yahoo email

22:02 schestowitz-TR; just days ago I was thinking

22:02 ZNC; but forgot the password

22:02 schestowitz-TR; what if they DID increase these..

22:02 schestowitz-TR; ZNC: ask the crackers

22:03 ZNC; then yahoo got hacked and my email was compromised

22:03 schestowitz-TR; they have the passwords for 1.5 billion yahoo accounts

22:03 ZNC; i cheked it at showdan

22:04 ZNC; only used it for gaming acounts and stupid stuff like that

22:05 schestowitz-TR; people can impensonate you

22:05 *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@urbrennxh2mqu.irc) has joined #techrights

22:05 ZNC; how?

22:05 psydroid9; reddit soyboys downvoted me into oblivion for saying things they don't want to hear

22:05 schestowitz-TR; I still get a lot of spam because of people's compromised Yahoo! accounts

22:05 schestowitz-TR; messages pretending to be these people

22:05 schestowitz-TR; psydroid9: reddit=shillfarm

22:05 schestowitz-TR; funded by Microsoft

22:05 schestowitz-TR; staffed by Microsoft, too

22:06 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2013/06/09/reddit-infiltrated/

22:06 TR Bot; Microsoft Crime Persists: AstroTurfing a Regular Practice, Reddit Full of Paid Microsoft AstroTurfers | Techrights

22:06 bnchs__; reddit is not the home for other opinions to exist

22:06 ZNC; lol i used to get banned over and over from windows channel

22:06 schestowitz-TR; crime is good

22:06 bnchs__; it's why people dox you for stating your opinion

22:06 schestowitz-TR; don't condemn crime

22:06 schestowitz-TR; not in github

22:06 schestowitz-TR; they will suspend you

22:07 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/04/20/mpaa-riaa-still-bossing-github/

22:07 TR Bot; Microsoft as a Censorship Machine Working to Undermine Free Software and Code Sharing (Also Sharing in General) | Techrights

22:07 ZNC; they really got pissed when i said the i never paid for windows in my life and never would

22:07 schestowitz; Banned for criticising Microsoft abuses http://techrights.org/2021/11/22/microsofts-github-is-hugely-toxic-and-it-censors-critics-of-corporations-or-people-sceptical-of-those-in-power/

22:07 TR Bot; Microsofts GitHub is Hugely Toxic and It Censors Critics of Corporations or People Sceptical of Those in Power | Techrights

22:07 schestowitz; or suspended etc

22:07 bnchs__; windows has ads in it's file manager now

22:07 schestowitz; www is a shithole

22:07 psydroid9; I was unfortunate enough to pay twice for it in my life

22:07 schestowitz; in the past you wrote in your own site

22:07 schestowitz; or newsgrooups

22:07 bnchs__; psydroid9, i never paid windows at all

22:08 schestowitz; not ''web forums'

22:08 schestowitz; and nobody censored you

22:08 psydroid9; but it was gone all the same

22:08 schestowitz; you might be ignored but that was it

22:08 psydroid9; bnchs__, it came with new computers and was too much of a hassle to get rid of before the purchase

22:09 bnchs__; lol

22:09 schestowitz-TR; now it's a LITTLE easier

22:09 bnchs__; when i bought a computer

22:09 bnchs__; it came with NOTHING

22:09 bnchs__; no OS

22:09 schestowitz-TR; at worst you get chrome'book'

22:09 schestowitz-TR; and clean the gulag

22:09 bnchs__; when you boot it up it just errors

22:09 bnchs__; you have to install the OS yourself

22:09 schestowitz-TR; if not, you could find some OSless boxes

22:09 schestowitz-TR; they might not be cheaper and they don't get to preload it with malware

22:09 psydroid9; I think the biggest problem is that people persist in using it because they "paid" for it

22:10 schestowitz-TR; they still pay for it

22:10 schestowitz-TR; each time they boot into it

22:10 schestowitz-TR; microsoft extracts "value"

22:10 psydroid9; your ongoing use of it is going to cost you a lot more in the long term

22:10 ZNC; thry pay and still have no rights

22:10 psydroid9; in terms of security and data issues

22:10 ZNC; they think i paid i they got my back!

22:10 bnchs__; i like how microsoft is now adding shitty "features" in their OS

22:10 ZNC; LOL

22:11 bnchs__; in their possible attempts to drive away windows users

22:11 bnchs__; like adding ads in file manager

22:11 schestowitz-TR; use gemini

22:11 psydroid9; turning the screw on those who got left behind

22:11 schestowitz-TR; no ads

22:11 schestowitz-TR; ever

22:11 schestowitz-TR; not even inside posts

22:11 schestowitz-TR; no place to put them, either

22:11 psydroid9; we truly live in 1984 now

22:11 schestowitz-TR; no sidebars possible

22:11 bnchs__; schestowitz-TR, ads in windows file manager

22:11 psydroid9; the haves and the havenots

22:11 schestowitz-TR; "sorry, what did I open the file manager for?"

22:11 schestowitz-TR; "oh"

22:12 schestowitz-TR; "I forgot"

22:12 schestowitz-TR; "this sexy lady in my sidebar told me to buy beer"

22:12 bnchs__; you open up the file manager

22:12 bnchs__; you get ads for viagra

22:12 bnchs__; you instantly shut down the PC

22:12 TR News; Lorn's Lure: Prologue gives us a taste of it's retro-styled climb-anywhere adventure | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/lorns-lure-prologue-gives-us-a-taste-of-its-retro-styled-climb-anywhere-adventure

22:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/lorns-lure-prologue-gives-us-a-taste-of-its-retro-styled-climb-anywhere-adventure

22:12 psydroid9; those who are still stuck in Microsoftland will get it much worse over time

22:12 TR Bot; Lure: Prologue gives us a taste of it's retro-styled climb-anywhere adventure | GamingOnLinux

22:13 ZNC; that only happends when you open your p0rn folder

22:13 bnchs__; soon they will add ads in the startup

22:13 schestowitz-TR; today MinceR posted a 15-min video

22:13 bnchs__; and add ads in your login screen

22:13 schestowitz-TR; the first 1+ min was spam/ad

22:13 bnchs__; maybe an unskippable video ad in the fucking BIOS aswell

22:13 schestowitz-TR; I mention this in the video I'm uploading at this very moment

22:13 schestowitz-TR; even the web "content" is partly spam

22:13 schestowitz-TR; I don't want that

22:13 MinceR; use sponsorblock

22:13 bnchs__; "Before you can use your computer, heres this JUICY AD ABOUT WHATEVER THE FUCK"

22:13 MinceR; iirc freetube supports it

22:13 *psydroid9 will have no more BIOS in the future

22:13 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: how does it know what's spam?

22:14 MinceR; the community marks it

22:14 schestowitz-TR; ah

22:14 MinceR; and it's shared somehow

22:14 SomeH4x0r; *UEFI

22:14 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: tbh, I'd rather boycott channels that do this

22:14 psydroid9; and the systems that still have a BIOS are going to be pit out to pasture

22:14 schestowitz-TR; you don't know what to trust...

22:14 schestowitz-TR; like the 'Linux' gamer

22:14 ZNC; while you are copying a file watch this ad for 5 sec press ok to continue

22:14 psydroid9; also those with closed source UEFI

22:15 schestowitz-TR; sometimes the actual "CONTENT" is the ad

22:15 psydroid9; because screw x86

22:15 schestowitz-TR; but they don't tell you

22:15 psydroid9; I'm not dependent on it

22:15 schestowitz-TR; if one day I find an ad/spam/promotion in gemini, I'll mention that

22:15 schestowitz-TR; so far nothing...

22:16 schestowitz-TR; and no state popaganda either

22:16 schestowitz-TR; like the wartime brainwash

22:16 *activelow has quit (connection closed)

22:17 ZNC; the war come just in time to kill covid

22:17 schestowitz-TR; yeah, problem solved

22:17 bnchs__; i like to see what other "features" micro$oft is gonna add

22:17 schestowitz-TR; the media can stop mentioning it

22:17 bnchs__; that's gonna drive away more users

22:17 schestowitz-TR; and find new reasons to impose price hikes all across the board

22:17 schestowitz-TR; shortages, war, disease...

22:17 psydroid9; isn't that what they want?

22:17 schestowitz-TR; it's never the oligarchs' fault

22:17 schestowitz-TR; blame nature!

22:18 TR News; "These numbers are about a week behind, so the effects of the (COVID case) surges is yet to be reflected in these figures" http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/14/covid-cases-have-surged/

22:18 TR Bot; Blog Archive In Spite of NHS Changes to Reporting Definitions (to Make Numbers Seem a Lot Lower), Another Surge in COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalisations

22:18 DaemonFC; A friend will help you move. A true friend will help you move bodies.

22:18 ZNC; i blame the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock

22:18 TR Bot; Doomsday Clock - Wikipedia

22:18 schestowitz-TR; US has poverty? FUCKING PUTIN!

22:19 psydroid9; M$ wants paying customers, doesn't it?

22:19 bnchs__; psydroid9, yes paying customers

22:19 MinceR; no, MICROS~1 wants hostages

22:19 MinceR; preferably slaves

22:19 psydroid9; there is no room for freeloaders, is there?

22:19 bnchs__; customers that pay for the newest hardware (because of the shitty hardware requirements"

22:19 MinceR; it's not enough that you pay, you must also worship them

22:19 bnchs__; just to be assblasted with "features" like this

22:19 MinceR; and do everything their way

22:20 bnchs__; imagine paying for the newest expensive hardware to run W11 just to be blasted with ads in your filemanager

22:20 bnchs__; it's a big joke

22:20 bnchs__; clowns

22:20 psydroid9; the joke is on those people

22:20 psydroid9; addicts

22:20 MinceR; and to be told you should really use Idiot Edgesploiter while you're using a real browser

22:20 DaemonFC; mjg59_ uses it for the coupons.

22:21 bnchs__; MinceR, it's not just "to be told"

22:21 bnchs__; it's also forcing edge on your ass

22:21 bnchs__; making it harder to unset edge

22:21 psydroid9; I just know W11 runs like complete crap in a VM on my pretty fast laptop

22:22 *activelow (~activelow@9usr6fbbjhvag.irc) has joined #techrights

22:22 psydroid9; and I don't have the hardware to run it natively

22:22 psydroid9; I won't be buying it either

22:23 ZNC; whats the word for when kids pull up your shorts?

22:23 bnchs__; W11 is a big joke for windows users

22:23 bnchs__; and people still defend it

22:24 ZNC; whats the word for when kids pull up your shorts? and crunch your genitals?

22:24 psydroid9; those are the people onboard the Wintanic

22:24 bnchs__; "nah man i can't leave windows"

22:24 psydroid9; they will go down with it, when it inevitably sinks

22:24 bnchs__; "all my GAYMES are in there"

22:24 bnchs__; "i'll live with the ads in my file manager like a cuck"

22:25 schestowitz-TR; wedgie

22:26 schestowitz-TR; wEDGE-IE

22:26 ZNC; wedgie edge the resamblece is uncany

22:26 *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@ekfphxgbg4tfi.irc) has joined #techrights

22:26 schestowitz-TR; sandra is back

22:26 bnchs__; even if microsoft made you pay everytime you wanted to use your computer

22:26 ZNC; who is sandra?

22:26 bnchs__; the windows users would still defend it

22:27 ZNC; the usa crops would gladlly have MS die and get everyone to pay thru their noses for APPL stuff

22:27 bnchs__; if you have W11 installed in a PC with 4GB of RAM

22:27 TR News; A Look at Our Modest (and Still Experimental) Gemini and Gopher Planet | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/14/gemini-and-gopher-planet/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/14/gemini-and-gopher-planet/

22:27 TR Bot; A Look at Our Modest (and Still Experimental) Gemini and Gopher Planet | Techrights

22:28 bnchs__; the system alone will take up about 80-90% RAM

22:28 ZNC; tha folks is what this really is about

22:28 ZNC; besides windows gives user too much freedom

22:28 schestowitz-TR; yes, the user

22:28 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft

22:28 schestowitz-TR; and the crackers

22:29 schestowitz-TR; and the NSA

22:29 bnchs__; a typical GNU/Linux installation takes only about 5-10% of RAM

22:29 schestowitz-TR; they have remote access

22:29 schestowitz-TR; so much freedom over the USED

22:29 bnchs__; while W11 takes up 80%

22:29 ZNC; also to apple

22:29 ZNC; the usa crops would gladly have MS die and get everyone to pay thru their noses for APPL stuff

22:29 ZNC; thats is what it comes down to

22:30 bnchs__; it should be illegal to sell laptops with RAM <= 4GB and windows on it

22:30 bnchs__; if laptop has RAM <= 4GB install a lightweight OS like gnu/linux

22:30 TR News; "My Mom has a new phone, so she gave me her old phone to me. It's a Huawei P20 Lite, and fortunately, there was a recent enough LineageOS version that supported it. The problem was unlocking the bootloader: I needed the key!" gemini://avalos.me/gemlog/2021-08-11-update-august-2021.gmi

22:30 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/14/6-arrested-5-guns-recovered-as-police-crackdown-on-surge-in-gun-violence-in-zion/

22:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/14/6-arrested-5-guns-recovered-as-police-crackdown-on-surge-in-gun-violence-in-zion/

22:30 TR Bot; 6 arrested, 5 guns recovered as police crackdown on surge in gun violence in Zion

22:30 DaemonFC; Now I have a machine gun.

22:30 DaemonFC; Ho...Ho....Ho...

22:31 bnchs__; yatatatatatatatatata

22:32 DaemonFC; "Officers on the detail also knocked on over 80 doors and handed out flyers with information in areas affected by some of the most recent incidents."

22:32 TR News; "Fun fact, this set was FEMA's recommended and standardized radiation kit well into the 90s despite the fact that the U.S. Office of Civil Defense (OCD) that commissioned their manufacture was dissolved in the early 70s." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-08-04.gmi

22:32 MinceR; 14 232400 < ZNC> whats the word for when kids pull up your shorts? and crunch your genitals?

22:32 MinceR; wedgie

22:32 DaemonFC; I'm usually happy to have the police at my door.

22:32 MinceR; i only ever saw it in the Mask cartoon

22:32 DaemonFC; I say, "Would you like to come in? I can get you some coffee, or maybe a nice Earl Gray or Darjeeling.".

22:32 DaemonFC; :P

22:33 schestowitz-TR; you saw in vegas machine guns are not needed

22:33 schestowitz-TR; one nut with many rounds and rifles can fire thousands of bullets

22:33 schestowitz-TR; killing almost 100

22:33 ZNC; wedgie the next name for edge

22:33 schestowitz-TR; from a distance

22:33 schestowitz-TR; edge-ie

22:33 schestowitz-TR; same thing

22:33 ZNC; zion is a real place?

22:33 schestowitz-TR; different branding

22:34 schestowitz-TR; different codebase

22:34 ZNC; isnt that something from the mtrix movies?

22:34 schestowitz-TR; microsoft loves open-to-steal code

22:34 DaemonFC; "<schestowitz-TR> one nut with many rounds and rifles can fire thousands of bullets"

22:34 schestowitz-TR; many places are called zion

22:34 DaemonFC; He did have a bump stock.

22:34 DaemonFC; Those are illegal now, but they're not hard to make and there were already so many.

22:34 DaemonFC; They'll never stop.

22:35 DaemonFC; You can easily 3d print a bump stock.

22:35 DaemonFC; It's not like it's some complex part or something.

22:36 schestowitz-TR; [22:34] <DaemonFC> He did have a bump stock.

22:36 schestowitz-TR; it's not just that

22:36 ZNC; they cant make it some complex part hard to replace for when the chinese invade the usa

22:36 schestowitz-TR; it's saving time reloading magazines

22:36 schestowitz-TR; by preloading many firearmns

22:36 schestowitz-TR; before the crowds disperse

22:36 schestowitz-TR; it's like a 'workaround;'

22:36 schestowitz; "left 60 civilians dead and an additional 867 injured" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_stock

22:36 TR Bot; Bump stock - Wikipedia

22:37 schestowitz-TR; so he "hit" close to 1,000

22:37 schestowitz-TR; most survived

22:37 schestowitz-TR; I assume they don't count people who just tumbled over

22:37 ZNC; arent all automatic weapons bumped stoked?

22:38 ZNC; thats how they spit out the empty dhels

22:38 ZNC; and load another bullet

22:40 schestowitz-TR; to use an analogy

22:40 schestowitz-TR; they say,

22:40 schestowitz-TR; you cannot buy more than one pack of this pill

22:40 schestowitz-TR; or this chemical

22:40 schestowitz-TR; so you buy a little each time

22:40 schestowitz-TR; and it adds up

22:41 schestowitz-TR; like people building bombs or making poison

22:41 schestowitz-TR; or trying induce overdoses

22:41 schestowitz-TR; and maybe a few years for now they will use that as a pretext for "war on cash"

22:41 schestowitz-TR; "we need to have a full history of everything you bought; where, when..

22:41 schestowitz-TR; it's for "safety"

22:41 schestowitz-TR; "security"

22:42 ZNC; think od the children

22:42 schestowitz-TR; they make up for quantity limits

22:42 schestowitz-TR; by repetition

22:42 ZNC; with out money kids cant by cigarrets

22:43 ZNC; or alcohol or whatever

22:43 TR News; Clear Linux 36010 has just been released, but I don't think that even Intel-funded Larabel uses it anymore. Zero users. https://clearlinux.org/

22:43 TR Bot; Home Clear Linux* Project | Clear Linux* Project

22:43 ZNC; "think of the children" it never fails

22:43 kingoffrance; ZNC, zion is basically just the draco constellation, and hundreds of locations on earth. "world tree" :) 80s movie "repo man": "there's one in every car [tree air freshener, almost every religion has a "world tree"], you'll see" "did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?"

22:44 TR News; There's no reason to use a GNU/Linux distro controlled by Intel unless self-harm is a fetish of yours. Intel hates Linux, but tries to co-exist with it... somehow. http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks

22:44 TR Bot; Intel leaks - Techrights

22:45 schestowitz-TR; ZNC: childten will find other "channels" for cigs

22:45 schestowitz-TR; it's easy

22:46 ZNC; you mean pedos?

22:46 TR News; iTWire - Chinese pro-govt paper claims NSA Linux tool NOPEN found https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/chinese-pro-govt-paper-claims-nsa-linux-tool-nopen-found.html see http://techrights.org/2013/11/17/nils-torvalds-on-back-doors/

22:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/chinese-pro-govt-paper-claims-nsa-linux-tool-nopen-found.html

22:46 TR Bot; - Chinese pro-govt paper claims NSA Linux tool NOPEN found

22:46 TR Bot; Confirmed by Nils Torvalds: NSA Asked Linus Torvalds for Back Doors in Linux, Torvalds Did Not Tell Us | Techrights

22:46 bnchs__; some people are a masochist

22:47 schestowitz-TR; ZNC: no, different issue

22:47 TR News; This new page is explained in the context of recent changes to our Gemini capsule; we show addition of support for gopher:// (in IRC logs) and then some of the ways of keeping up with Gemini content http://techrights.org/2022/03/14/gemini-and-gopher-planet/

22:47 TR Bot; A Look at Our Modest (and Still Experimental) Gemini and Gopher Planet | Techrights

22:48 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/war-on-cashiers/

22:48 TR Bot; Self-Service is Just an Unjust Disservice by Selfish Business People | Techrights

22:48 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2019/08/20/surveillance-war-on-cash/

22:48 TR Bot; The European Patent Office Increases Surveillance: Cant Get Food Without Being Spied on | Techrights

22:48 schestowitz; war on cash

22:48 schestowitz; basically spying mandated

22:48 schestowitz; even for food you eat

22:48 schestowitz; there will be a "black market

22:48 schestowitz; food "piracy"

22:48 schestowitz; where you can pay for food some other way

22:49 schestowitz; if they try to ban physical cash

22:49 schestowitz; they might not realise it

22:49 schestowitz; banning official cash

22:49 schestowitz; will lead to an alternative the government does not control

22:49 schestowitz; do they want THAT?

22:49 schestowitz; like people paying with drugs

22:49 schestowitz; here, have some meth, give me some bananas and apples

22:49 schestowitz; or bottle of vodka

22:50 schestowitz; or even prostitution

22:50 schestowitz; I give you ____

22:50 schestowitz; you give me my groceries for the week

22:50 schestowitz; the governments think they can remove physical bartering

22:50 schestowitz; we must ensure this idea fails

22:50 immibis; did you also know bush did 9/11?

22:50 schestowitz; currencies like these have existed for thousands of years

22:51 schestowitz; immibis: not sure what that's supposed to mean

22:51 immibis; I see that the article is basically complaining about one store deciding to stop accepting cash payments

22:51 schestowitz; unless you're taking the p---

22:52 immibis; do you want to make it mandatory for all stores to accept cash?

22:52 schestowitz; there are laws like that

22:52 schestowitz; in the US

22:52 schestowitz; not sure about UK

22:52 schestowitz; or some US states

22:52 schestowitz; they must honour cash payments

22:52 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/JZLUEq8.jpeg

22:52 Alternative link; Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/JZLUEq8.jpeg

22:52 schestowitz; look it up, as this was tested in the legal system

22:52 immibis; it would certainly be a reasonable thing to mandate. However one store deciding not to accept cash is hardly a "OMG THIS IS TURNING INTO AN ORWELLIAN DICTATORSHIP" moment

22:53 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: what is this mouse good for?

22:53 schestowitz-TR; speed dial?

22:53 immibis; there's a donut shop down the road from me that doesn't accept cash of its own free will. Is Germany already an orwellian dictatorship?

22:53 schestowitz-TR; microsoft windows+chrome in the bacground

22:53 MinceR; afaik it's marketed for MMORPG playing

22:53 MinceR; assigning abilities to those buttons

22:53 MinceR; sadly, mice designed for FPSes don't have so many buttons

22:54 schestowitz-TR; immibis: people should challenge this

22:54 schestowitz-TR; they discriminate against some groups

22:54 MinceR; especially not the 2 mice i know of that are capable of an 8000 Hz polling rate

22:54 schestowitz-TR; some people can only pay for cash

22:54 immibis; schestowitz-TR: yes. I think it is perfectly reasonable to require stores to accept cash. I don't think it's a sign of an Orwellian surveillance state when some don't

22:54 ZNC; if you zoom in you can see psycadelic trance on the screenNils Torvalds

22:55 schestowitz-TR; immibis: that's allegation inflation

22:55 ZNC; i guess the buttons are for music mixing

22:55 schestowitz-TR; I didn't assert something.... Orwell

22:55 schestowitz-TR; there's a post there about EPO in Munich

22:55 schestowitz-TR; and mandating cards

22:55 schestowitz-TR; even for water

22:55 MinceR; then again, i'm not sure if i could even use those buttons much with my fingertip grip anyway

22:55 ZNC; you can see psycadelic trance on the screen MinceR?

22:56 MinceR; i can't

22:56 ZNC; zoom it

22:56 immibis; ZNC: by cross-referencing weather reports, you can also see that MinceR lives in Hamburg

22:56 MinceR; oh, now i can

22:56 MinceR; lol

22:56 schestowitz-TR; he would wish

22:56 MinceR; i didn't take this photo

22:56 schestowitz-TR; hamburg is nice

22:56 immibis; just don't eat the hamburgers. they're fine people.

22:56 MinceR; hamburg is certainly nicer than budapest

22:56 MinceR; i'm sure i could find hamburgers that are OK to eat in hamburg

22:57 immibis; some of them are rich

22:57 immibis; so

22:57 schestowitz-TR; nicer places cost more

22:57 schestowitz-TR; munich became very expensive

22:57 immibis; schestowitz-TR: you went on a rant about spying mandates

22:57 schestowitz-TR; and it's not even so good ^_^

22:57 immibis; governments banning cash

22:57 MinceR; there are several burger kings in hamburg

22:57 immibis; governments banning bartering

22:57 schestowitz-TR; look at sweden

22:57 immibis; prostitution is legal in Germany FYI

22:57 schestowitz-TR; it may not be mandated yet

22:58 schestowitz-TR; but they make cash sca<rce enough

22:58 schestowitz-TR; here in manchester people struggle to give me back change in some stores

22:58 schestowitz-TR; as they are not accuastomed to handling such payments

22:58 immibis; as a hypothetical, though - it's really odd that when governments ban cash it's a sign of $bad_thing and we must all switch to.... bitcoin, which also does not have cash

22:58 schestowitz-TR; bitcoin is not a real alternative to it

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22:59 schestowitz-TR; you cannot hand over a bitcoin to a person

22:59 schestowitz-TR; without some device

22:59 immibis; is it possible that people simply consider card payments to be a superior technology? much the same way people file their taxes online, instead of through the mail?

22:59 schestowitz-TR; immibis: anyway, I thinky uo misunderstood me

22:59 schestowitz-TR; not out of malice

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23:00 schestowitz-TR; tax id different

23:00 schestowitz-TR; for a lot of reasons

23:00 schestowitz-TR; also, you do not file taxes anonymously

23:00 schestowitz-TR; nobody does... nor can

23:00 immibis; the comparison to filling in paperwork online seems like a good one. You do it online, you can be tracked, not everyone can do it, etc.

23:00 schestowitz-TR; filing taxes and buying a bottle of water is not the same use case/scenario

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23:01 immibis; I am sure if you were a member of german parliament and you brought up mandatory acceptance of cash payments on privacy grounds, you would get somewhere. Privacy is a big thing in the EU.

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23:03 schestowitz-TR; there are stronger reasons

23:03 schestowitz-TR; or grounds

23:03 schestowitz-TR; and more sensitive

23:03 schestowitz-TR; less disabilities

23:03 schestowitz-TR; and old people

23:03 schestowitz-TR; and poor people who cannot open a bank account

23:03 schestowitz-TR; privcy is not near the top of the list

23:03 immibis; Germany has mandatory access to bank accounts for poor people

23:03 immibis; I think

23:03 schestowitz-TR; some British media (awful!) did cover examples and caused some controversies

23:04 immibis; they are not required to give you all the value-added services that you probably didn't want anyway. Just an account to store money.

23:04 schestowitz-TR; some old people just want some pastry to get by

23:04 schestowitz-TR; not "apps" and pin codes and stuff

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23:04 schestowitz-TR; immibis: well, good for the bankers...

23:04 schestowitz-TR; there are still people who keep phgysical money under bricks

23:05 immibis; considering it's the EU, you might even be able to mandate banks to provide full-reserve accounts

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23:05 immibis; considering ZIRP, it's not like banks were making any money off your deposits anyway.

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23:07 TR News; No public talks from RMS since half a year ago. http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/#2021 https://stallman.org/talks.html

23:07 TR Bot; Audio/Video - GNU Project - Free-Software Foundation

23:07 TR Bot; Talks - Richard Stallman

23:08 immibis; schestowitz-TR: you know all the concerns about hyperinflation also apply to physical money, righT?

23:08 immibis; it's good for when the internet is broken

23:08 gooseheaded; hi

23:08 *gooseheaded meows all over immibis

23:09 immibis; gross

23:09 gooseheaded; HAHA

23:09 MinceR; :3

23:09 DaemonFC; https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/03/14/apple-adds-123-new-emoji-in-ios-154-update

23:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: appleinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/03/14/apple-adds-123-new-emoji-in-ios-154-update

23:09 TR Bot; adds 123 new emoji in iOS 15.4 update | AppleInsider

23:09 DaemonFC; Including pregnant "man".

23:09 TR News; Hong Kong has lost control of COVID-19, which it long fought to contain

23:09 immibis; DaemonFC: why are you generally accepting of everything, except for that specific thing

23:10 immibis; that and black people

23:10 schestowitz-TR; [23:08] <immibis> it's good for when the internet is broken

23:10 schestowitz-TR; not good for bitcoin ^_^

23:10 schestowitz-TR; or when your governmeent bans it

23:10 DaemonFC; Well, black crime and Uncle Keith.

23:10 immibis; it's like someone took a left-wing political ideology and blue-tacked on some random piece of bigotry they found on the street

23:10 schestowitz-TR; about ahalf a dozen govs did already

23:10 schestowitz-TR; some contemplate it

23:10 DaemonFC; Did you hear the story of Uncle Keith?

23:10 DaemonFC; I call them like I see them.

23:10 immibis; schestowitz-TR: That's when we get a shadow banking system consisting of ham radio operators able to receive the blockchain from satellites and broadcast transactions

23:11 immibis; DaemonFC: who is uncle keith

23:11 MinceR; DaemonFC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BedWowuRdyU

23:11 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BedWowuRdyU

23:11 schestowitz-TR; don't ask

23:11 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Did you ever hear? - Invidious

23:11 schestowitz-TR; he'll go ona n off topic rant

23:11 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: go to another channel, not here

23:12 schestowitz-TR; we're talking about digial cash

23:12 schestowitz-TR; 'cash'

23:12 schestowitz-TR; some bits on a machine

23:12 schestowitz-TR; bank accounts are, technically, just that

23:12 immibis; cash is just meatspace that.

23:12 schestowitz-TR; but those bits let you get some physical things you can exchange for food etc.

23:12 immibis; FYI: bank accounts do not store dollars

23:13 schestowitz-TR; they give the ability to withdraw some

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23:15 kingoffrance; ""With silver being worth $0.72/g as of this writing, that means I have ~$31.39 worth of silver in coins that have a $2.50 face value." that was the us dollar, gold came later. so its all a cluster#$%! now

23:15 immibis; if you know your crypto, bank dollars are to dollars as crUSDT is to USDT

23:15 immibis; they are a record that you have given the bank some dollars. they are not dollars

23:16 kingoffrance; "given the bank some dollars" yes, and that used to mean silver. it just gets redefined over and over and over and over

23:17 immibis; banks can operate in any currency that people want to borrow. such as USDT

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23:29 schestowitz-TR; less the government gets overthrown, the banks are the least risky place to put one's money

23:30 schestowitz-TR; bitcoin is risky for many reasons

23:30 schestowitz-TR; in some places more than in others

23:30 immibis; In the current financial climate, fiat currency is not more safe than the stock market

23:31 immibis; the current betting odds on the stock market say there is a substantial chance the American government will choose voluntary hyperinflation instead of allowing the market to crash

23:31 immibis; h y p e r i n f l a t i o n. it's really bad

23:31 immibis; US$ will become totally worthless

23:31 ZNC; https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-supplier-foxconn-in-talks-to-build-9-billion-factory-in-saudi-arabia-11647274349

23:31 TR Bot; Supplier Foxconn in Talks to Build $9 Billion Factory in Saudi Arabia - WSJ

23:32 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/815173.png

23:32 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/815173.png

23:32 schestowitz-TR; "I buy apple"

23:32 schestowitz-TR; "to support a regime that beheads gay people"

23:32 ZNC; build it were they can aford it

23:32 schestowitz-TR; "lovely!"

23:33 schestowitz-TR; no need for suicide nets

23:33 schestowitz-TR; when you have swords

23:33 ZNC; they love clogger there also

23:33 ZNC; bloggers

23:33 MinceR; "I like sword. It's a personal weapon!"

23:33 schestowitz-TR; esp. ones with disbelief in any specific god

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23:34 schestowitz-TR; immibis: stock market ius trading in fiar currency

23:34 schestowitz-TR; and so it amplifies the risk

23:34 schestowitz-TR; *fiar

23:34 schestowitz-TR; *fiat

23:35 TR News; Bits from the Release Team: bookworm freeze dates (preliminary) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162550

23:35 TR Bot; Bits from the Release Team: bookworm freeze dates (preliminary) | Tux Machines

23:36 immibis; schestowitz-TR: when the stock market is way up, it indicates either expected high stock value (not happening) OR expected low fiat value

23:36 TR News; Party time: Injecting code into Teleparty extension | Almost Secure https://palant.info/2022/03/14/party-time-injecting-code-into-teleparty-extension/ www = proprietary crap. Avoid. Not recommended anymore...

23:36 TR Bot; Party time: Injecting code into Teleparty extension | Almost Secure

23:36 schestowitz-TR; immibis: that''s chaining the risk

23:36 schestowitz-TR; if the units go down

23:36 schestowitz-TR; or the price per unit

23:36 schestowitz-TR; you can be screwed by both

23:37 schestowitz-TR; immibis: but I have a 'motto' of sorts

23:37 schestowitz-TR; earn what you need

23:37 schestowitz-TR; and keep skilled

23:37 schestowitz-TR; excesses go unused or lost

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23:37 schestowitz-TR; some people waste money on "assets"

23:37 schestowitz-TR; but they lose value very fast

23:38 schestowitz-TR; so stop hoarding money

23:38 ZNC; ass hat

23:38 schestowitz-TR; same for food

23:38 schestowitz-TR; hoarding food

23:38 MinceR; many skills will also lose their value when society collapses

23:38 schestowitz-TR; it spoils

23:38 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: and then your money won't be worth much either

23:38 MinceR; indeed

23:38 schestowitz-TR; you even becomne a target

23:38 immibis; skills are certainly valuable. However, what else will you do with your money until the economy returns to some semblance of normality?

23:38 schestowitz-TR; like the state takes your home

23:39 MinceR; if only i could afford to buy a nuclear bunker

23:39 ZNC; since ibm bought redhat they should change its name to assh hat

23:39 immibis; You can put yourself in crippling debt to buy a home, and hope that hyperinflation makes the debt less crippling. That is the main thing you can do with your money.

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23:39 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: you need lots of food in it and secrecy

23:39 immibis; assuming you make more than is useful for food etc

23:39 schestowitz-TR; if you hoardf a lot you become a target

23:40 MinceR; indeed

23:40 MinceR; also lots of drinking water

23:40 schestowitz-TR; and make sure you have a place to remove "waste"

23:41 MinceR; indeed

23:41 schestowitz-TR; you need a 'bunker in a banker'

23:41 schestowitz-TR; for things that might smell

23:41 ZNC; you can use the empty food cans

23:42 immibis; good old conservation of volume. never falis

23:42 immibis; or fails

23:42 schestowitz-TR; in the long tun people will lolcate the bankers

23:42 schestowitz-TR; esp. if there is a crisis of resources

23:42 immibis; for bonus points, distill your pee back to drinking water and fertilize plants with irradiated poop. Set up a closed ecosystem with a nuclear reactor and you truly have a nuclear bunker

23:43 MinceR; i can haz resources?

23:43 schestowitz-TR; immibis: and make missiles

23:45 schestowitz-TR; there must be at least a few bunkers somewhere in kiev

23:45 schestowitz-TR; can they outlast the war?

23:45 schestowitz-TR; unless you build and fill them up yourself, someone else knows where they are

23:45 schestowitz-TR; and ventilation shfts give away where these are

23:46 schestowitz-TR; *shafts

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23:47 schestowitz; 10 Cloverfield Lane Official Trailer #1 (2016) - Mary Elizabeth Winstead, John Goodman Movie HD - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=saHzng8fxLs

23:47 TR Bot; 10 Cloverfield Lane Official Trailer #1 (2016) - Mary Elizabeth Winstead, John Goodman Movie HD - Invidious

23:47 schestowitz; Depressing movie

23:48 immibis; there was a secret bunker in gibraltar hidden in the big hill. If your ventilation holes are good, they look like natural terrain. In a city you could ventilate through other buildings

23:48 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162551

23:48 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

23:49 immibis; like, just find a big boulder and make your tunnel from the back of the boulder where people can't see without moving the boulder

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23:49 schestowitz-TR; you also need an entry shaft

23:49 DaemonFC; The banks have things rigged so you can't get a house now no matter what.

23:49 schestowitz-TR; under some rocks?

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23:50 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: or you buy them at crazy prices

23:50 schestowitz-TR; guaranteed to fall

23:50 schestowitz-TR; or the currency will

23:50 DaemonFC; Either the interest rates are too high or they want too much money for the house or they just stop lending because "of the economy" and/or any and all of the above.

23:51 schestowitz-TR; now it's fashionable to blame nature and putin

23:51 schestowitz-TR; in 2008/09 we blamed banks

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23:51 schestowitz-TR; now it's "outside out control"

23:51 schestowitz-TR; the economy would be fine, but for the ___

23:52 schestowitz-TR; also: "did you get the booster of the booster yet?"

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23:52 schestowitz-TR; rianne is getting more test kits tomorrow

23:52 schestowitz-TR; I will too

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23:52 DaemonFC; I have a bunch.

23:52 DaemonFC; Pfizer says 4th shot.

23:53 schestowitz-TR; Simon says, make it work this time

23:53 schestowitz-TR; like, for more than a few weeks

23:53 schestowitz-TR; Biden never gave a vaccine patent waiver

23:53 schestowitz-TR; lousy president

23:53 schestowitz-TR; another corporate shill, like trump and obama

23:53 schestowitz-TR; nothing has changed

23:53 schestowitz-TR; just the branding

23:54 schestowitz-TR; "libs, not it's biden turn to screw you. enjoy, you won!"

23:54 schestowitz-TR; *now

23:55 schestowitz-TR; I'm glad "GOPTaxScam" was overturned and reversed... oh, wait

23:55 immibis; is pfizer pushing for another of the same shot, or are they pushing for omicron shot?

23:55 schestowitz-TR; some newer patents probably

23:55 schestowitz-TR; so even with a patent waiver the newer patents can be patent evergreening

23:55 schestowitz-TR; more stimulus for them

23:55 DaemonFC; Yeah, "Build Back Better Part II" was going to leave that in place AND give another $200 billion to the rich.

23:55 immibis; DaemonFC: While they were enslaving debt morons, we studied the blade^W^W^Wsaved cash for the collapse

23:55 DaemonFC; WHat a crock of shit.

23:55 schestowitz-TR; prepaid by the taxpayers

23:55 immibis; Problem is, the government may choose hyperinflation instead

23:56 immibis; There are 4 possible outcomes to the housing market: (1) market crash, (2) hyperinflation, (3) return to feudalism, (4) communist revolution

23:56 schestowitz-TR; immibis: they put that at around 7% now

23:56 schestowitz-TR; February figures

23:56 schestowitz-TR; that's like 50% in 5 years

23:56 schestowitz-TR; cumulative

23:56 immibis; that's not hyper

23:56 immibis; hyper is 50% per month

23:57 DaemonFC; The SALT cap should definitely stay.

23:57 immibis; it's not even especially high. it's very high for the last 15 years in the USA... but throughout history, and across the world, it's pretty typical

23:57 schestowitz-TR; no

23:57 schestowitz-TR; 50% is too much

23:57 schestowitz-TR; armed revolt likely

23:57 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 54.98 average k/sec., average swarm size 277.19

23:57 immibis; 7% per year

23:57 schestowitz-TR; they put on the fire

23:57 DaemonFC; If they don't delete the removal of the SALT cap, then there's no form of that bill that should pass.

23:57 schestowitz-TR; and move up the levels

23:57 DaemonFC; I'm glad that Manchin put a stop to it.

23:57 immibis; Was there an armed revolt when the USA had 20% inflation?

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23:58 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: so you know nothing about WHY he stopped it

23:58 immibis; schestowitz-TR: also, an armed revolt guarantees infinity% inflation. The US$ will stop existing as a currency.

23:58 DaemonFC; More people than ever just take the standard deduction now.

23:58 schestowitz-TR; and you crossed over to the camp of corproate 'Republicnas'

23:58 schestowitz-TR; shilling for bill harder than RMS ever did

23:59 schestowitz-TR; kids are inflation magnifiers

23:59 schestowitz-TR; they bring no income

23:59 schestowitz-TR; and the expenses increase

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