IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, November 13, 2022
beginning of new day, November 13
00:00 MinceR; :>
00:02 reptilian_thrills; "you cant make a vagina out of a penis!" <- but you can totally make a woman out of a rib
00:02 phanes; i love these conversations and how they're completely over peoples' heads
00:02 reptilian_thrills; if you translate it properly, its even more interesting
00:03 reptilian_thrills; the hebrew word for rib also means the side (half) of a ship
00:03 reptilian_thrills; adam is compared to an ark
00:03 MinceR; the good ship adam
00:03 phanes; >genetic vessel
00:03 reptilian_thrills; eve was made from half of adam
00:03 phanes; X | Y
00:03 reptilian_thrills; so what was adam then?
00:03 reptilian_thrills; we dont know, it doesnt say
00:04 reptilian_thrills; adam the living yin/yang, how cosmic
00:04 phanes; yin yang and yang yang
00:04 phanes; 01 and 00
00:05 MinceR; (nsfw) https://www.oglaf.com/goodship/
00:05 TR Bot; The Good Ship Ivan
00:05 phanes; 12 and 22
00:07 reptilian_thrills; genesis is a lot more fun if eve was made out of adam and adam was made from a piece of god (what wasnt)
00:07 reptilian_thrills; first, it means humanity is a fractal
00:07 MinceR; a fractal of failure
00:07 MinceR; starting out with a god that is a failure
00:07 reptilian_thrills; oh definitely!
00:07 MinceR; how poetic.
00:07 reptilian_thrills; eve fucks up and adam has to go along with it
00:08 reptilian_thrills; god asks why and adam says "you said i have to"
00:08 MinceR; more like yahweh fucks up and the humans have to go along with it
00:08 reptilian_thrills; gods like "ok, but youre both fucked though"
00:08 reptilian_thrills; and you know the rest, we get putin for our troubles.
00:08 reptilian_thrills; but if adam was made the same way eve was
00:09 reptilian_thrills; adam and eve are part of the same thing, they fucked up, and god has to go along with it just like adam did
00:09 phanes; so
00:09 phanes; if you know your theology
00:09 reptilian_thrills; but adam and eve were both fucked, not just eve
00:09 phanes; eve was not the first woman
00:09 reptilian_thrills; which means adam fucked up, but both adam and god are fucked for it
00:09 phanes; initially the genesis story had an adam and lilith made from the same "clay"
00:09 reptilian_thrills; this might sound random and stupid (im sure it does)
00:09 phanes; and lilith rejected adam
00:09 phanes; so she was made into a monster and haunts the sons of man
00:09 reptilian_thrills; but in judaism, theres a notion of jews being one people
00:10 phanes; and that's when eve was created from the rib
00:10 reptilian_thrills; theres a collective responsbility
00:10 reptilian_thrills; designing justice systems that way is stupid, for obvious reasons
00:10 reptilian_thrills; but in a cosmic system its arguably like that anyway
00:10 MinceR; afaik lilith is just one way to explain the 2 conflicting genesis stories
00:10 reptilian_thrills; go on
00:10 phanes; there are even some religious scholars that suggest there's canonical validation of the sons of cain bearing shared lineage from lilith
00:11 MinceR; another way to explain it is that it's just very poorly written and is full of contradictions
00:11 reptilian_thrills; oh the killjoy way
00:11 MinceR; :>
00:11 reptilian_thrills; well, its not like religion doesnt arguably deserve that
00:11 phanes; MinceR, well yes, someone who had no clue what they were talking about and were massively poorly educated on the nuances that led to it might suggest that
00:11 MinceR; ooh, nuances
00:11 reptilian_thrills; still, its killjoys that ruined religion and it probably wont be killjoys that fix it
00:11 MinceR; religion can't be fixed
00:12 MinceR; it's a failure in our minds
00:12 MinceR; if it's fixed, it won't exist anymore
00:12 reptilian_thrills; we wont have imaginations?
00:12 phanes; eh. depends on what you mean by "religion". religion is actually very good for humanity. religious institutions are historically very bad for humanity.
00:13 MinceR; religions are memetic pathogens that get a free ride in human minds, fuck them up and replicate to other human minds
00:13 MinceR; and make our lives into even more of a hell than they were before in the process
00:13 MinceR; even for the uninfected
00:13 phanes; not even close
00:14 MinceR; of course the infected doesn't like this idea
00:14 phanes; it is one of the few things that are universal in all peoples
00:14 MinceR; along with stupidity, evil and barbarism?
00:14 MinceR; oh, and that they're all doomed
00:14 phanes; if you take a bunch of babies and drop them off on an island and they survive, and come back a few thousand years later you'll see a new religion form
00:14 reptilian_thrills; mincer is fun at parties
00:14 reptilian_thrills; "youre all doomed, and alcohol is bad for you!"
00:15 MinceR; and if you come back a few hundred thousand years later, they've cooked themselves in the atmosphere of the planet they're on
00:15 phanes; stupidity, evil, and barbarism are culturally subjective constructions, and your definitions of them are purely offshoots of your own belief system
00:15 MinceR; or just killed each other over religious differences
00:15 MinceR; or because some of them had differently colored skin
00:15 reptilian_thrills; staying on earth is a losing long-term plan
00:15 MinceR; yeah, but leaving earth requires science and technology
00:16 reptilian_thrills; i like science and technology
00:16 MinceR; which are incompatible with the "my ignorance is at least as valuable as your knowledge" idea that's so popular nowadays
00:16 reptilian_thrills; there are pros and cons :)
00:16 phanes; MinceR, not just science and technology, not even close. Yes those are both required, but no human civilization can exist off earth even with science and technology without an extremely sophistocated social system that protects the whole from the mistakes of the few.
00:17 reptilian_thrills; ignorance is overvalued and knowledge is undervalued
00:17 MinceR; human civilization would be a good idea
00:17 reptilian_thrills; i blame the economy
00:17 MinceR; sadly, religion, like everything else humans tried, failed to produce it
00:17 reptilian_thrills; both as a joke and less of a joke
00:18 phanes; i personally would not want to live in what we would view as the dystopian sociopolitical hellscape that would be required to maintain an offworld civilization
00:18 phanes; it would be very easy to die by breaking rules
00:18 MinceR; then you're lucky, because it isn't likely to happen
00:19 phanes; MinceR, can't get there from here, our current morality would forbid the political practices required to maintain it. If you think China is fascist wait till you see what it takes to maintain stability in a bubble city in space.
00:19 MinceR; civilized beings, i.e. beings that are likely to consider the interests of the other person?
00:19 reptilian_thrills; "jesus, you dont really expect us to believe youve transitioned to being a woman?"
00:19 MinceR; it would be nice to see humans develop into that, just not likely
00:19 reptilian_thrills; "oh, no, i didnt transition"
00:20 reptilian_thrills; "oh, good"
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00:20 phanes; It's not that our morality as a society is not kind enough to survive space -- it is that we are too kind and compassionate to pull it off.
00:20 MinceR; lol
00:20 reptilian_thrills; "i was trans-substantiated!"
00:20 MinceR; if there's something humans aren't, that's kind and compassionate
00:20 phanes; sure we are
00:20 phanes; you live in one of the most compassionate societies ever to exist
00:20 reptilian_thrills; "thats why i was a WAFER so long!"
00:20 MinceR; that's because all societies we're aware of are human societies
00:20 MinceR; i.e. evil, barbaric shitholes
00:21 phanes; by your current standards
00:21 MinceR; all most of us does is either find a way to own other people, be owned by someone else or just wreck shit for fun
00:21 phanes; if you lived in space you'd think back to how us ancients lived and wish that such a life offworld were even possible sustainably
00:21 MinceR; sustainable is yet another thing humans are incapable of
00:21 reptilian_thrills; <MinceR> all most of us does is either find a way to own other people, be owned by someone else or just wreck shit for fun <- ive heard its a lobster thing
00:22 reptilian_thrills; a frog told me
00:22 reptilian_thrills; then he said to clean my room
00:22 reptilian_thrills; then he called me bucko
00:23 phanes; MinceR, if you lived in the year 4500 AD on a colony on an asteroid you'd think that jettisoning someone out of the air lock to preserve oxygen because they made a mathematical error that day isn't evil, I promise.
00:23 techuser; so people reproduce in order to own a child for 18 years?
00:23 phanes; i love when people talk about evil
00:23 phanes; because they treat it like it's based on fixed, objective standards
00:24 phanes; and it isn't
00:24 phanes; ironically we should all know this by now
00:24 MinceR; phanes: i very much doubt that there will be any humans left in 4500 CE
00:24 phanes; human history is hallmarked by everyone's definition of evil shifting to something absurd and it causing massive loss of human life
00:25 MinceR; that should tip you off about what's coming
00:25 reptilian_thrills; why is no one researching WHY jordan peterson sounds like kermit the frog?
00:25 phanes; the trap for us today is we like to believe our definitions of good and evil as fixed, that we are the most advanced state of humanity compared to all of its future or past in every way
00:25 MinceR; does anyone care about jordan peterson?
00:25 reptilian_thrills; surprisingly, some do
00:25 MinceR; phanes: we might be. we might already be declining.
00:25 reptilian_thrills; but most people who have done kermit professionally were doing a voice
00:25 reptilian_thrills; they dont actually sound like that
00:26 reptilian_thrills; and heres one guy who naturally (or at least, always) sounds like him
00:26 reptilian_thrills; civilisation is declining
00:26 reptilian_thrills; it has to, or it will kill us (yes it might anyway)
00:26 phanes; MinceR, maybe in some ways, maybe not in other ways. advancement and decline is always going to be an aggregate of conflicting arrows pointing many different directions, and much less a continuum of "forward and backward", and which arrows those are, are selected entirely by our current subjective definitions of good and evil
00:26 reptilian_thrills; people who think civilisation are so awesome wont agree
00:27 MinceR; civilization would be nice
00:27 reptilian_thrills; they dont think civilisation is mostly going around to distant lands, killing people and fucking their wives and daughters
00:27 reptilian_thrills; which is under attack from all sides, let me tell you
00:27 reptilian_thrills; and i cant imagine why
00:27 phanes; reptilian_thrills, give it about 50 years, we have 2 or 3 generations about to not reproduce very much and the global population will drastically reprofile
00:28 reptilian_thrills; granted even a commie like marx would tell you theres a good side to all this
00:28 reptilian_thrills; "we needed it to build spaceships"
00:28 reptilian_thrills; -- marx (probably)
00:28 phanes; no
00:29 phanes; we shouldn't even attempt to build space ships until we have the social issues worked out
00:29 MinceR; too late
00:29 reptilian_thrills; but now we have spaceships-- so...
00:29 phanes; because if we don't work them out we won't survive in space
00:29 MinceR; we won't survive anywhere
00:29 reptilian_thrills; the world is divided between people who know we have spaceships "but we should still kill people and rape their women"
00:29 reptilian_thrills; and people that are like "we can stop that now, weve got spaceships, we can go to OTHER PLANETS and kill them and rape their"
00:29 reptilian_thrills; aww, fuckity fuck
00:30 reptilian_thrills; forward, to civilisation :(
00:30 MinceR; even if we escape most of our current predicaments, we as a species will still have a tendency to find the most horrible monsters among ourselves and put them in charge of everything
00:30 MinceR; and to look for differences between ourselves and use that as a reason to want to exterminate each other
00:30 reptilian_thrills; we as a species will still have a tendency to find the most horrible monsters among ourselves and put them in charge of everything <- so basically humanity is doomed to capitalism then
00:30 phanes; there's an elephant in the room about what happens to many of our social issues as soon as extraterrestrial colonial social order becomes a necessity but we are not ready for that conversation yet. too politically charged.
00:31 MinceR; plus there's our susceptibility to religion
00:31 phanes; religion is good
00:31 phanes; religious institutions are bad
00:31 reptilian_thrills; and to look for differences between ourselves and use that as a reason to want to exterminate each other <- they got tired of doing that in ireland
00:31 MinceR; yes, that's one of the horrible things about religion
00:31 reptilian_thrills; maybe someday the world itself will get tired of that
00:31 MinceR; it makes its host believe and say that religion is good
00:31 MinceR; it spreads more easily that way
00:32 phanes; religion is quantifiably and measurably good for society
00:32 MinceR; reptilian_thrills: yes, a human-free world will be tired of that
00:32 MinceR; as quantified and measured by religious people
00:32 phanes; MinceR, mostly because the atheists have ended up being the lowest order of intellectual contributors to human development
00:33 MinceR; foam at the mouth a bit more
00:33 reptilian_thrills; what made einstein mostly immune to religion
00:33 phanes; einstein was religious
00:33 MinceR; or go kill some heathens to calm down
00:33 phanes; you people just make shit up
00:33 MinceR; either way works
00:33 MinceR; maybe burn some witches
00:33 phanes; why would i burn witches
00:34 phanes; i want cinnamon rolls and nookie
00:34 reptilian_thrills; /me ties a carrot to lennart
00:34 MinceR; "you people just make shit up" -- he said, in defense of making shit up.
00:34 phanes; MinceR, yes, the argument with citable sources confirming everything being said is making shit up against the "im talking shit on irc and hoping nobody knows more about this than me" argument
00:35 reptilian_thrills; whoever makes the most shit up gets to rule the world though
00:35 phanes; its the other way around
00:35 phanes; whoever rules the world gets to make the most shit up
00:35 reptilian_thrills; /me smiles at phanes
00:35 *MinceR wonders if phanes rules the world
00:35 *phanes rules the world
00:36 reptilian_thrills; any day now
00:36 MinceR; [citation needed]
00:36 MinceR; and no, i wasn't referring to the alleged "argument" as making shit up
00:36 MinceR; i was referring to literally making shit up as making shit up, i.e. religion.
00:36 reptilian_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aGCdLKXNF3w
00:36 TR Bot; Tears For Fears - Everybody Wants To Rule The World (Official Music Video) - Invidious
00:36 phanes; anyway, the whole idea of power at play here is flawed. what exactly is power? force? nah, not really.
00:36 MinceR; nah
00:37 MinceR; power is the derivative of work
00:37 reptilian_thrills; someones work, anyway
00:37 phanes; sounds kinda marxist and flawed tbh MinceR
00:38 MinceR; yes, yes
00:38 MinceR; "everything i don't like is marxism"
00:38 reptilian_thrills; getting people to work for you is (often) the result of a swindle
00:38 phanes; MinceR, that argument style works better if you find a way to compare me to nazis
00:38 MinceR; apparently now physics is marxism too
00:38 reptilian_thrills; /me was just going to say
00:38 MinceR; phanes: i don't need to compare you to anything
00:38 phanes; MinceR, i agree, i am incomparable
00:38 reptilian_thrills; f = ma <- bloody marxists
00:39 MinceR; no, you do that yourself
00:39 phanes; ok, sorry about being so awesome
00:39 reptilian_thrills; newtonian propaganda!
00:40 MinceR; those damned newtonists
00:40 reptilian_thrills; what is it about nazis? einstein: "jewish propaganda" newton: "marxist propaganda"
00:40 MinceR; along with those damned darwinists
00:40 MinceR; and those damned einsteinists with their jewist physics.
00:41 phanes; now that i think about it i've never seen kanye and MinceR in the same room together
00:41 reptilian_thrills; the only way that nazis made anything work is the scientists and engineers kept their thoughts to themselves
00:41 MinceR; you've never seen me anywhere
00:41 reptilian_thrills; because the nazis didnt know their arse from their elbow about science
00:41 MinceR; i suppose that makes me identical to everyone else.
00:41 phanes; as far as either of us know anyway
00:42 phanes; lol wut
00:42 phanes; reptilian_thrills, are you not aware that the germans in WWII had a scientific and engineering advantage
00:42 reptilian_thrills; mengele wasnt a doctor, he was a sadist that made copious notes
00:42 MinceR; oh, yes, the advantage that led to them not having nuclear weapons
00:43 MinceR; i remember that advantage well.
00:43 phanes; it was not a close advantage either
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00:43 geert; supsupsupsup
00:43 MinceR; geert: phanes is explaining to us how the germans in ww2 won the war thanks to their scientific and engineering advantage
00:44 phanes; it was such an overwhelming advantage that we almost lost the war and when we did by throwing sheer bodies at it we used the opportunity to scoop up their science and engineering resources to build the empire that has poisoned our filters of morality today
00:44 phanes; *and when we did win
00:44 phanes; MinceR, i didn't say the germans in ww2 won the war, im saying they had a scientific and engineering advantage that is indisputed by WWII scholars
00:45 MinceR; it ties into how the nazi leaders decided that modern physics was wrong and this sabotaged the german nuclear program
00:45 MinceR; don't worry, the orcs didn't learn from this either
00:45 phanes; you're falling into that trap where you think win/lose is the tied to every aspect of both sides, so, if they lose, they were worse at everything
00:45 MinceR; yes, i know
00:45 MinceR; i, too, possess this scientific and technological advantage of not having nuclear weapons
00:46 MinceR; i'm going to use it to conquer the world tomorrow
00:46 geert; nah i dont think it worked like that
00:46 MinceR; but now, i must first go to sleep.
00:46 phanes; good martial intellect recognizes and assimilates the positive aspects of their enemies, which is exactly what the US did after the war
00:46 geert; scientific /engineering development kind of 'steered by support' so to spe4ak
00:46 geert; speak*
00:46 geert; several so called powerhouses got in struggle
00:47 geert; over the back of hitler, wwII
00:47 MinceR; kinky.
00:47 geert; the scientific/engineering 'advantage' is rather defined by 'support'
00:47 phanes; and actually MinceR to your point about hte nuclear program being delayed, it's a good thing because if they had rejected the currently physics model and built a weapon through the new path they would have ended up with a much more devestating weapon and we'd all be speaking german
00:47 phanes; *the current physical model
00:47 geert; e.g. much 'value' got transported from FED to hitler/nazi stuff
00:48 geert; without it, the 'science/engineering' factor would have looked wholly differently
00:48 MinceR; yes, it's best for almost everyone that totalitarianism crippled german science/engineering efforts
00:48 MinceR; same with the previous orcish empire
00:48 phanes; yes. it absolutely is.
00:48 phanes; the germans needed to lose that war lol
00:48 MinceR; unfortunately, next time it might be global
00:49 MinceR; there's anti-intellectualism in the usa, in the uk, in the eu, in orcland and in red china
00:49 geert; well the so called 'neurenberg processes' were more of show process than often realized
00:49 MinceR; growing, spreading, disabling minds
00:49 MinceR; who knows, maybe we'll be wiped out by an asteroid while billions of people pray to avert it
00:49 MinceR; which, of course, doesn't work
00:50 geert; although many those people involved with neurenberg processes got much awareness about it
00:50 geert; im not trying to blame all them, that would be nasty shit
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00:50 geert; many people got to try different things than deliberately putting up showprocesses overthere, back then
00:50 phanes; eh, reality is complicated
00:51 MinceR; it's getting simpler
00:51 MinceR; it will be simpler without humans in it
00:51 geert; well its rather criminals try to make it appear complicated, to try utilize the complication as kind of smoke screen
00:51 phanes; for all we know prayer does have an impact on reality in ways that modern belief systems of reality cannot rectify
00:51 geert; its not to bully you or misinform you, but really..
00:51 MinceR; and when the Sun exposes all our remains (including all the plastic we've scattered through Earth) to extreme heat 5 billion years from now, it will become even simpler
00:51 phanes; if reality is not "real" locally and is an expression of consciousness then things like mass prayer may actually have subtle effects on what we call reality
00:52 geert; most complication stems from smoke screen urges from criminals, far most even, if not all
00:52 MinceR; you keep on believing that. if you're lucky(?), you'll even get to test it.
00:52 geert; hence i dont think reality is really that complicated at all
00:52 geert; i think criminals try to make it appear as such to try hide with such crap
00:52 phanes; eh, the math doesn't support what you're saying geert
00:53 geert; math isnt too complicated as well
00:53 phanes; as humans explore the quantum we're finding out that matter and reality aren't as fixed or as real as we want and believe them to be
00:53 geert; it might appear like that to some that dont understand certain specific aspects of it
00:53 geert; but math isnt complicated as well
00:53 geert; e.g. the lesser the understanding, the more its called complicated
00:53 phanes; if you don't think math is complicated then you don't know much math
00:53 geert; well i think its the other way around
00:54 phanes; thats because you know almost nothing about it
00:54 geert; i think if you think math is complicated you probably dont get much about it
00:54 geert; math utilizes quite the wide range of several functions, methods, approaches
00:54 geert; if one still through the processes of getting that, reasons behind it etc.
00:54 geert; i get it that it then might seem very complicated even
00:55 geert; yea i get that
00:55 geert; but i dont think it *is* complicated, at all
00:55 phanes; yeah, good luck applying that approach
00:55 geert; oh well i dont have to complain about that, about the 'good luck' hehe
00:55 geert; anyways gimme sec, things thigns
00:55 phanes; once you start getting to sentential notation for the hard stuff you'll fall flat on your ass in great ridicule
00:56 geert; well not even a little bit, actually
00:56 phanes; and then some nerd will humiliate the shit out of you by showing you what complexity really looks like
00:56 geert; well also not even a little bit, actually
00:56 geert; but i wish you good times chewing on math man ;)
00:57 MinceR; > explore the quantum
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01:00 geert; the quantum did kind of hurt the head a bit so to speak
01:00 geert; physics/mechanics etc.
01:00 geert; oof some ppl get to brew up some stuff
01:00 geert; but then, still, it isnt complicated, the more one gets about it, the less it appears complicated, really :)
01:00 phanes; yeah fundamental and fixed concepts are being discarded
01:01 phanes; geert, yeah i hear business people say shit like that about technical problems and it's as stupid when they say it as it is when you say it
01:01 phanes; it's like "tell me you can't hang with the problem without telling me you can't hang with the problem and while you're at it, contribute nothing while downplaying the very amazing contributions of the talent involved"
01:02 phanes; it stems from a fundamental lack of education of the problems being solved
01:02 geert; i dont think i share your perspective entirely
01:03 geert; problems mean you dont get something very much
01:03 geert; so then i guess i get it that it appears complicated
01:03 geert; otherwise you wouldnt call it problem, most probably
01:03 geert; im not too surprised :0
01:04 phanes; yeah so it sounds like your identity forbids you from approaching things that no one understands and hiding in a refuge of self-gratifying egoism
01:04 phanes; i mean
01:04 phanes; it's psychologically safe
01:04 phanes; so there's that
01:04 phanes; but you won't be solving any problems
01:04 geert; well i think it went from perspective to very subjective stressed out and possibly frustrated assumptions
01:04 phanes; no its a safe conclusion, ive seen it alot
01:04 phanes; as long as you don't have to approach the unknown nothing is complicated and you can tell yourself you understand all
01:05 geert; anyway it wasnt german science/engineering that decided 'success' throughout nazi expansion
01:05 phanes; nor was that suggested
01:05 phanes; that was just the dumber, weaker argument you created on my behalf when you failed to wrap around the complexity of what was actually said
01:05 phanes; im seeing a trend
01:06 geert; ooff you seem like touched, as if i would have offended you
01:06 phanes; no not at all
01:06 phanes; though i do have serious doubts about your resiliency
01:06 geert; oooff, kind of not so nice remarks
01:06 geert; on the person, all that
01:06 geert; it kind of shows a bit man, about you actually, and it isnt so very much about me, actually
01:07 geert; :/
01:07 phanes; yeah sorry, the way you think sucks and is demeaning to actual contributors to the advancement of our species
01:07 geert; so when i say that 'when you get things, things dont appear so complicated anymore' you kind of try start attacking?
01:07 phanes; maybe reflect on that instead of making it a "me thing"
01:07 phanes; nah you just don't read as closely as you think you do
01:07 geert; hmmm.. .you kind of appear like some mathematician who chew onto something considered problem because 'not yet gotten into understanding so much'
01:08 geert; ooff and i should add, in combination with failure to admit
01:08 geert; well well phanes i still get to wish you all good chewing on math as well
01:08 geert; :)
01:09 phanes; abstraction is lossful
01:09 phanes; but it has its purpose
01:09 phanes; just not that one
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01:10 reptilian_thrills; explore the quantum <- thats easy
01:11 reptilian_thrills; if i dont collapse the waveform, ive already done and not done it
01:11 reptilian_thrills; /me brushes his hands
01:11 reptilian_thrills; it also works for dishes
01:11 reptilian_thrills; "did you do the dishes?" "its impossible to say"
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01:21 *XRevan86 bets that once again stuff I posted in #techpol will be posted here as well by someone else tomorrow.
01:25 phanes; man they are keeping dave chappelle on a tight leash this time at SNL
01:26 reptilian_thrills; politics are all the rage
01:27 phanes; yeah im like 99% sure celeste yim tried to organize a boycott by involving the press and it backfired on her spectacularly
01:28 XRevan86; reptilian_thrills: Rage, more like outrage, with a PoW/traitor execution.
01:28 phanes; tried to give the appearance of numbers and then it turned out there were no numbers
01:34 reptilian_thrills; oh? traitor to whom?
01:34 XRevan86; reptilian_thrills: PMC Wagner, the details are in #techpol
01:35 reptilian_thrills; was wagner executed?
01:35 XRevan86; reptilian_thrills: The ones executing? Yes.
01:35 reptilian_thrills; when you said pow/traitor execution i thought you meant it hypothetically/metaphorically
01:36 reptilian_thrills; /me thought you couldnt execute pows because of the geneva convention
01:36 XRevan86; Oh, no, they executed a man and published the video for the world to see.
01:36 reptilian_thrills; of course thats only as long as you adhere to it
01:36 reptilian_thrills; hanging or bullet?
01:39 reptilian_thrills; i think they can make an exception for genocide, but usually when they insist on hanging its meant to show the lowly class of the condemned
01:39 XRevan86; reptilian_thrills: Sledgehammer.
01:39 reptilian_thrills; imo it only presents as the executioners having no class themselve
01:39 reptilian_thrills; Sledgehammer <- jesus
01:43 XRevan86; reptilian_thrills: "thought you couldnt execute pows because of the geneva convention" <- Also in this case he was not exactly a PoW to the Wagner Group, as he was allegedly exchanged back from Ukraine to Russia.
01:43 reptilian_thrills; oh the guy doing the execution was a former policeman
01:43 reptilian_thrills; go figure
01:44 reptilian_thrills; for deserting the syrian army
01:44 XRevan86; reptilian_thrills: Where'd ye get that from?
01:45 reptilian_thrills; www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/21/man-filmed-killing-torture-syrian-identified-russian-mercenary-wagner 2019-11-21
01:45 reptilian_thrills; The mercenary, who was been identified as Stanislav D by the Novaya Gazeta newspaper, is a former police officer from the Stavropol region in southern Russia. In leaked documents, he wrote that he
01:45 XRevan86; Ah, a different unrelated execution, gotcha.
01:45 reptilian_thrills; yeah i thought it might be, but
01:45 reptilian_thrills; it included 100% of the almost zero details i was given
01:46 reptilian_thrills; i guess they have a thing about hammers
01:46 XRevan86; reptilian_thrills: That makes sense as it's a trademark Wagner execution, so by looking it up ye just found another Wagner execution.
01:46 XRevan86; reptilian_thrills: Ye are indeed correct.
01:48 reptilian_thrills; so the one i found was for deserting the army
01:48 reptilian_thrills; what did this guy do?
01:48 reptilian_thrills; what was he found (or assumed) guilty of
01:48 XRevan86; reptilian_thrills: This: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/16/if-you-didn-t-follow-instructions-they-shot-you
01:48 TR Bot; NO TITLE
01:49 reptilian_thrills; i guess they didnt shoot him
01:49 XRevan86; I'm practically reposting what I posted to #techpol now %).
01:52 reptilian_thrills; yeah ive got everything except the guys name
01:52 reptilian_thrills; they killed the guy who was interviewed?
01:53 reptilian_thrills; if it makes you feel better, most of what you post in techpol stays there
01:53 reptilian_thrills; and things get discussed in more detail, more often
01:53 XRevan86; reptilian_thrills: "they killed the guy who was interviewed?" <- Yes, it's this person.
01:53 reptilian_thrills; which means the channel is still working (mostly)
01:54 reptilian_thrills; ah, ok
01:54 reptilian_thrills; thats a shame
01:55 reptilian_thrills; if communism is going to work, i really dont think the girls with bats and molotov cocktails are going to be enough. not that they cant do a whole hell of a lot. and im not saying girls cant fight in real combat. i wouldnt say that, and i dont think that either.
01:55 reptilian_thrills; up against people like wagner, theyre going to need the marxists. lots of them
01:56 reptilian_thrills; as for the tankies, fuck them, if not for stalin these hammer fuckers wouldnt exist in the first place
01:56 reptilian_thrills; nor would putin
01:57 reptilian_thrills; he would have a real job (i cant say he would get a haircut)
01:58 reptilian_thrills; im not saying girls cant fight in real combat <- im literally saying that anarchists suck at strategy. change my mind.
01:59 reptilian_thrills; ive been trying very hard to figure out a way that anarchy can work. lots of research, found some promising shit
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.88 k/sec., IPFS upstream 86.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:59 reptilian_thrills; even told one of my crazy anarchist friends "okay, youre not completely crazy"
2 AM, November 13
02:00 reptilian_thrills; mincer is the smartest anarchist i know, but his strategy sounds a lot like "fuck it, whatever"
02:00 reptilian_thrills; to be fair, i never asked.
02:01 reptilian_thrills; id like to see capitalism die instead of humanity, personally.
02:02 reptilian_thrills; but id also like to see people who are serious up against mercs, rather than marshmallows in costume with baseball bats
02:02 reptilian_thrills; like yeah, good job on the storefronts. try your wooden stick against a bank vault now.
02:03 reptilian_thrills; hopefully theyll show me what a narrow-thinking fool i am.
02:03 reptilian_thrills; i wouldnt be bothered if they were right and im not
02:05 reptilian_thrills; marshmallows in costume with baseball bats <- it would help a bit if they at least had guns you know
02:06 reptilian_thrills; but then theyd still need a better strategy than "human microphone"
02:06 reptilian_thrills; im strawmanning a bit and i realise it. im not bullshitting when i say i hope im strawmanning a lot more than i realise
02:07 reptilian_thrills; my personal theory is that left anarchism and marxism solve different problems
02:07 reptilian_thrills; and at least one of them sucks at other things
02:08 reptilian_thrills; for example, i think left anarchism was the perfect battering ram for corporations to use to hobble free software for years
02:09 reptilian_thrills; not because they decided to work together
02:09 reptilian_thrills; but because anarchists can be manipulated into doing things that are fucking stupid-- or...
02:09 reptilian_thrills; they will do stupid things on their own then corporations swoop in to (literally) capitalise on it
02:09 reptilian_thrills; either way-- thats stupid
02:09 reptilian_thrills; and i think its part of what went wrong at the fsf
02:10 reptilian_thrills; the fsf should have simply been anticapitalist
02:10 reptilian_thrills; instead it was taken over by corporations
02:10 reptilian_thrills; thats not better
02:10 reptilian_thrills; free software wont ever stay free under capitalism
02:10 reptilian_thrills; it will always be captured until the larger problem is dealt with
02:10 reptilian_thrills; and if its just going to be captured, then free software developers are working for a scam
02:11 reptilian_thrills; the solution? make it NOT a scam
02:11 reptilian_thrills; pretend its not a scam? <- no, thats what keeps it being a scam
02:11 reptilian_thrills; then free software developers are working for a scam <- actually, theyre working for the fourth reich
02:12 reptilian_thrills; which is a pretty far fucking cry from freedom
02:12 reptilian_thrills; ibm are holocaust deniers
02:12 reptilian_thrills; the current ibm
02:12 reptilian_thrills; they deny that ibm orchestrated the holocaust, which can be proven
02:13 reptilian_thrills; for 20 years (or 80 years) ibm has been the largest holocaust-denying corporation in history
02:13 reptilian_thrills; they deny the biggest part of what made it possible! themselves
02:14 reptilian_thrills; and they control gcc. how nice.
02:14 reptilian_thrills; maybe they can optimise gcc for census tasks
02:15 reptilian_thrills; and they control gcc <- both as the hosts of the code (the primary source) and the steering committee, afaict
02:15 reptilian_thrills; good thing stallman doesnt have any gold teeth or they would have taken those too
02:15 reptilian_thrills; and kuhn! NICE JOB, IDIOT
02:15 phanes; this is pure fud
02:16 reptilian_thrills; hermann kuhn
02:16 phanes; 1) ibm did not "orchestrate the holocaust" you loony
02:16 reptilian_thrills; i dont know whether mjg is playing the part of france, italy or poland :)
02:16 phanes; 2) ibm doesn't seem to control the gcc or glibc project
02:16 reptilian_thrills; silly me, hes playing the part of stalin
02:16 phanes; no stalin has actual control over things
02:16 reptilian_thrills; hes russia
02:17 phanes; mjg59_ falls under the "influencer type" category these days
02:18 reptilian_thrills; to be fair, if you press stalin on his opinion of nazis, he will say "all my enemies are sympathisers, but if they invade, dont shoot the german army"
02:18 phanes; not even close
02:18 phanes; more like
02:19 phanes; "developer advocate"
02:19 phanes; or "community liaison"
02:19 reptilian_thrills; whereas mjg will say "ehh, i wouldnt miss the german army" even if he inadvertently helped them earlier
02:19 phanes; where "community" isn't the actual community but a bunch of pre-selected diversity candidates
02:19 reptilian_thrills; this means mjg is a better (and less traitorous) military strategist than stalin
02:19 reptilian_thrills; all stalin had to do was back the fuck up and let the war be handled by people who knew wtf they were doing
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02:20 reptilian_thrills; but that took forever
02:20 reptilian_thrills; so actually mjg isnt as bad as that
02:21 reptilian_thrills; its a shame then that his strategy still "tanked" the fsf, not that im certain it was actually his strategy
02:21 reptilian_thrills; we (still) dont know whose strategy it was. blaming ibm is as good a guess as any.
02:22 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/11/12/man-arrested-charged-with-stabbing-relative-with-carving-fork-near-marengo/
02:22 reptilian_thrills; ibm was using the same strategies against competitors a century ago
02:22 TR Bot; Man arrested, charged with stabbing relative with carving fork near Marengo
02:22 reptilian_thrills; watson was using the same strategies against competitors even before he went to work for ibm
02:22 reptilian_thrills; for national cash register
02:22 reptilian_thrills; who still exist
02:23 reptilian_thrills; microsoft learned THEIR strategies from ibm and watson
02:23 reptilian_thrills; so pretending this is "old news" is laughable
02:23 reptilian_thrills; the past isnt irrelevant, it isnt even the past
02:24 reptilian_thrills; you learn what ibm did 80 years ago, it helps you understand what microsoft is doing now
02:24 reptilian_thrills; ibm hasnt changed either
02:25 reptilian_thrills; this means mjg is a better (and less traitorous) military strategist than stalin <- this is a pretty lukewarm compliment, its really not intended as one
02:25 reptilian_thrills; but credit where credit is due
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02:39 DaemonFC; I saw a squirrel running out of our apartment complex's trash earlier.
02:39 DaemonFC; Had a tortilla hanging out of his mouth.
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02:39 DaemonFC; They've gone native.
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02:40 DaemonFC; XRevan86, That's what the Russians do. Come, loot, rape, murder witnesses, booby trap, and then pull out and lob missiles at the village.
02:40 DaemonFC; The village that they supposedly annexed.
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02:42 XRevan86; DaemonFC: I've noticed.
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02:44 XRevan86; DaemonFC: So what's your point?
02:56 geert; well i think some russophobes should rather try get a look at what kind of crimes committed under disguise of supposed 'democracy' with not just e.g. vietnam war
02:56 geert; terrible, terrible, horrible crimes
02:57 geert; so no russia isnt perfect, but i seriously oppose the russophobe nonsense that some criminals currently try to milk in their favor so to speak
02:57 XRevan86; Whataboutism, , .
02:58 XRevan86; Literally just talked about a ruthless execution, but no one is perfect.
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02:59 geert; oh well you kinda appear uninformed if you missed so many ruthless executions under disguise of as if on behalf of 'western state matters/security'
3 AM, November 13
03:00 geert; we're not getting a better world, serious improvement, with the current bogus russophobic tendencies aimed to favor some nasty criminals who are in fact more to blame about much misery including with .ua than russian status quo.
03:01 geert; i would suggest people to try not facilitate those who actually wanted the conflict and tried to lure russia in for many years.
03:02 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 151896 total Total number of pages in capsule: 43423 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 3 months 9 days ago
03:02 XRevan86; Russia is stupid this way I guess.
03:02 AdmFubar; https://gizmodo.com/apple-iphone-privacy-analytics-class-action-suit-1849774313
03:02 TR Bot; Sued Over iPhone Privacy Settings After Gizmodo Story
03:02 geert; and some of those more or less indirect enablers/facilitators surprisingly even say they wana protect .ua people/interest with it
03:02 XRevan86; Wave some candy over it and it'll allow itself to be lured every time.
03:03 geert; which is not just uninformed, i consider it simply ignorant
03:03 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.
03:03 geert; some would say harmful ignorant since warmongerers want to abuse such ignorance
03:04 AdmFubar; https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/11/have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-again-elon/
03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:04 TR Bot; you tried turning it off and on again, Elon? TechCrunch
03:14 phanes; the us does some pretty horrible things
03:14 phanes; you could be a young arab child running from a helicopter and catch a bullet in the head
03:15 phanes; but if russian combatants capture you, you're going to be tortured, mutilated, and not all of you will come back if you survive
03:16 phanes; this is not the reason that russia is worse than the US, it is a symptom of the reason
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03:34 geert; a lot of people talk a lot of shit and dont get much about reality
03:34 geert; if you only knew what happened under the caller 'us of a', you wouldn't be saying this phanes
03:34 geert; many people who got captured got tortured, murdered in sometimes very gruesome manners
03:35 geert; plz refrain from talking shit saying 'us is better than russia or vice versa' etc.
03:35 geert; you simply show lack of clue and are not accurately describing reality through such nonsensical statements
03:35 phanes; oh boy, another topic i know alot more about than you that i have to tiptoe around your head-burying with
03:35 geert; we're not likely to get improvement globally from such nonsense
03:36 geert; oh boy, another topic is you sure do NOT know a lot more than me about it
03:36 geert; but im not waiting for a flame war with some warmongering supporters
03:36 phanes; can you do this to someone dumber in a place i dont need to read
03:36 geert; you cannot change the facts
03:36 geert; you are not entering history in a very knowledged manner
03:36 phanes; nor can you change what i actually said
03:36 geert; the facts will proof that, and you can do nothing about it
03:37 geert; you are apparently uninformed, possibly ignorant and possibly even deliberately ignorant
03:37 geert; and you better refrain from talking shit about what i know
03:37 geert; because you do not know jack shit about what i do.
03:37 *phanes yawns
03:37 phanes; i've seen enough
03:37 geert; no you havent
03:37 phanes; next
03:37 geert; you apparently havent got enough clue about much reality, so you havent seen enough
03:38 geert; well i do get to know about the facts, besides also about much math
03:38 geert; and you are NOT going to change that.
03:38 phanes; nah
03:38 geert; none of your yawning either
03:38 phanes; you're a pretender
03:38 phanes; i see about 5 a day
03:38 geert; haha lol so all those sobat/specop etc. etc. including cia etc. try hunt me coz i pretend
03:38 phanes; the real ones are easy to spot early on in a conversations
03:39 geert; man again you try discredit me, uninformed little shit, without any serious facts
03:39 phanes; anyway, you're right the US has had its fair share of dirty deeds in military and contractor-led ops
03:39 reptilian_thrills; when roy is talking about "free" software that isnt controlled by github
03:39 phanes; lots of scandals
03:39 geert; what i told you about e.g. us murdering people in sometimes gruesome ways after torturing, wasnt bullshit, any many people in here know
03:39 geert; so you little shit should talk less and get more clue
03:39 reptilian_thrills; why the fuck you would include software that no one can actually retrieve from a company?
03:39 geert; so NO, you have NOT seen enough.
03:40 phanes; the difference is we have "scandals" that eventually come out and the public gets shocked by
03:40 reptilian_thrills; companies having internal software isnt a new thing, nor is it relevant
03:40 reptilian_thrills; it changes nothing for the rest of us at all
03:40 phanes; russia just has a way of operating
03:40 phanes; and it's normal
03:40 phanes; not scandals
03:40 geert; did you already realize that navalny is part of such scandal?
03:40 reptilian_thrills; its nice for those companies, thats it
03:40 geert; no you did not.
03:40 phanes; it's just their way as a government
03:40 geert; coz you little shit should get more clue
03:40 phanes; nah bruh
03:40 geert; i do oppose the way .ru tried handle navalny
03:40 reptilian_thrills; plus we cant see it, measure it, talk about what it does
03:40 geert; but hes not legit political opposition either
03:40 geert; did you know that?
03:40 reptilian_thrills; i mean freedom 1 is to study the software, eh?
03:40 reptilian_thrills; we certainly cant
03:40 geert; no you dont, little shit, so preferably shut up and try get moar clue.
03:40 reptilian_thrills; useless. also pointless.
03:40 reptilian_thrills; but what do you expect
03:41 geert; and also, i dont like you trying to discredit me if stances you hold are obviously incorrect and i get point it out
03:41 phanes; i would say the worst thing about us foreign policy over the last....10 years or so is through the department of state, and even that's been diffused in recent years
03:41 geert; so for that i got to call you stuff like little shit
03:41 reptilian_thrills; when talking about github, you can always change the subject to something that has no relevance or relationship with the matter in any sort of practical terms
03:41 reptilian_thrills; to make a point that doesnt exist
03:41 reptilian_thrills; but again, what do you expect
03:41 geert; fucking useless ignorant little shit with your geo political pretenses
03:41 geert; someone talking in such formulation should KNOW and not proof ignorant.
03:42 geert; otherwise id expect questions
03:42 phanes; geert, if you don't like being exposed as a pretender then come back strong and informed, you're basically putting your dick in a meat grinder here
03:42 TR News; Almost 13,000 UK Deaths Per Week, Sickness Crisis That Corporate Media Doesn't Talk About https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/13/sickness-crisis/
03:42 TR Bot; Blog Archive Almost 13,000 UK Deaths Per Week, Sickness Crisis That Corporate Media Doesnt Talk About
03:42 geert; besides, if one understand some serious math, its not complicated
03:42 phanes; and then complaining that the meat grinder is grinding too fast
03:42 geert; phanes, you cannot expose me as pretender
03:42 reptilian_thrills; free software was created in response to people signing ndas
03:42 geert; people like from cia dont follow me coz i pretend
03:42 geert; you CAN NOT EVER change it, little shit.
03:42 phanes; geert, you're so confused man lol
03:42 reptilian_thrills; so the free software in a company, thats free licensed and not under nda
03:42 reptilian_thrills; could be taken outside the company
03:42 geert; im not confused
03:42 geert; and you cannot win discussion like that either
03:43 phanes; geert, "exposed" doesn't mean what you think it does, it's a word to describe you putting your dick in a meat grinder and complaining about how fast it's grinding
03:43 reptilian_thrills; but if its not free licensed (and thus non-free by any standard) or under nda (which is how software became non-free when copyright didnt apply)
03:43 phanes; "it didn't even give my dick a chance to prove it was tough"
03:43 geert; phanes, you talk a lot, you apparently do not know a lot, period.
03:43 reptilian_thrills; its not actually free software, is it
03:43 reptilian_thrills; so what the fuck does it have to do with github taking over free software.
03:43 geert; and you not gona win the shit with your derogative discredit shit
03:43 reptilian_thrills; absolutely. fucking. nothing.
03:43 reptilian_thrills; its a fucking red herring.
03:43 geert; this goon things cia follow me for im pretender
03:44 geert; fucking good
03:44 geert; goon*&
03:44 reptilian_thrills; imagine aruging with any balls at all, instead being a slimey, slippery, spineless little shit.
03:44 phanes; geert, you think the CIA is following you?
03:44 reptilian_thrills; "you misunderstand"
03:44 reptilian_thrills; yeah, ive heard that one before...
03:44 reptilian_thrills; check your wallet and your arse when you hear that one...
03:45 reptilian_thrills; the first to see if its still there and the second to see if its red or sore
03:45 phanes; i mean
03:45 phanes; if we're comparing wallets
03:45 geert; phanes, i do not think that, i get to know about that, and dutch police get to know about it in several so called key positions, as dutch DSI as german DBND or something etc.
03:45 reptilian_thrills; its like talking to a goddamned politician
03:45 geert; but that isnt too imporant
03:45 geert; you should KNOW before you talk that rudely, and you did not know before you talked that rudely
03:45 geert; so now i react with, you fucking goon better shut up.
03:46 phanes; geert, yeah, nothing you're saying is of value to me
03:46 geert; im not surprised, goon
03:46 geert; otherwise youd know better
03:46 phanes; i do
03:46 phanes; that's the problem
03:46 geert; if you knew better, it wouldnt be a problem
03:46 phanes; yet here we are
03:46 geert; like no fucking serious math is complicated
03:46 phanes; hahaha
03:46 phanes; my goodness
03:46 phanes; this is advanced stupid
03:47 geert; uninformed silly shits not understanding how it really works try hide their ignorance behind calling 'it' complicated
03:47 geert; and the way you call others stupid while not understanding things yourself, man its a gross display of ignorant and bigoted
03:47 phanes; like when stupid mutates and becomes part of the cell, and the cell divides and before you know it's a mass of stupid consuming all the resources in the system
03:48 geert; it didnt appear smart
03:48 geert; you didnt refute any the facts i told you, including about us of a troubles AFTER capturing peeps
03:48 phanes; geert, good, so focus less on "appearing smart" and more on having a clue what you are talking about
03:48 geert; so no, it didnt appear smart, it didnt appear knowledged, again, it didnt change the facts, but it did show you rude little ignorant and bigoted shit.
03:48 geert; so to speak
03:48 geert; now i got things to do, little shit, goon, you better shut up before you know.
03:49 phanes; bwahaaha
03:49 phanes; before i know what?
03:49 phanes; is this where you threaten me
03:49 phanes; because i haven't been threatened in a while, most of my enemies have fled
03:49 geert; now this is interesting, you're not the first goon that try talk shit about 'threaten' then.
03:49 geert; another proof
03:49 geert; what a fucking bigoted little shit
03:49 geert; well i actually got serious things to do.
03:49 phanes; bigoted?
03:50 geert; can you even read?
03:50 phanes; what is bigoted about understanding that you have no clue what you are even saying
03:50 geert; yea, bigoted
03:50 geert; and little shit too
03:50 phanes; this is one of those situations where you know so little about the things that you are saying that you can't even gauge how little you know about them
03:50 phanes; it's the same reason that really stupid people think smart people are stupid
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03:51 phanes; and talk about "common sense" as if it is a real thing
03:51 phanes; i mean
03:51 geert; maybe some of so called cia might acknowledge what you get to say and stop following me
03:51 phanes; don't get mad at me over you being stupid
03:51 phanes; that's not a me thing
03:51 phanes; that's a you thing
03:51 phanes; so go work on it
03:51 geert; maybe if you could try explain them, i wouldnt mind them stop some corrupted shit
03:51 geert; but i dont think they believe you lol
03:51 geert; haha you fucking goon
03:52 geert; you dont even get a little bit what kind of display you making of yourself right now
03:52 phanes; sure id o
03:52 geert; anyways, i still got serious things to do,.
03:52 phanes; *sure i do
03:52 phanes; no you don't
03:52 phanes; you have nothing important to do. at all. i promise.
03:58 geert; i guess quite some 'followers' spending lots of effort, means, money to 'index nothing' i guess
03:58 geert; bahahaha
03:58 geert; i mean
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03:59 geert; you simply dont know and in this not so favourable situation you try appear as if you could classify /typify me
03:59 geert; maybe if you drunk i guess its more understandable
4 AM, November 13
04:00 geert; well russophobe is like racist, and whoever gives in to that i guess we shouldnt expect too much from that
04:00 geert; :/
04:01 geert; supporting such approaches dont really indicate 'clear thinking'
04:02 geert; warmongerer criminals DO sure like to exploit whoever gives in to such
04:02 geert; its much easier exploited than 'clear thinking'
04:02 AdmFubar; https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/11/celebrating-life-aaron-swartz-nov-12-and-nov-13
04:02 TR Bot; Celebrating the Life of Aaron Swartz: Nov. 12 and Nov. 13 | Electronic Frontier Foundation
04:02 geert; i do get to put some time in trying to point it out, also here, because society gets LOTS of COSTS via such bigoted crap and not so much 'improvement'
04:03 geert; so maybe you get more clue, phanes, one day, and you will probably then agree with me that its not so 'complicated', not just math.
04:03 geert; regarding math*
04:05 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, November 12, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
04:05 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:05 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
04:05 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
04:13 TR News; Latest Data Supplied by ONS, as OpenDocument Format (Not Microsofts Proprietary Formats) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/13/latest-data-supplied-by-ons/
04:13 TR Bot; Blog Archive Latest Data Supplied by ONS, as OpenDocument Format (Not Microsofts Proprietary Formats)
04:13 phanes; geert, ok so go learn math until you understand why you're wrong.
04:14 phanes; fuckin' pretenders man
04:14 phanes; this industry is plagued
04:14 TR News; Openwashing by Gulag https://opensource.googleblog.com/2022/11/get-ready-for-google-summer-of-code-2023.html
04:14 TR Bot; Get ready for Google Summer of Code 2023! | Google Open Source Blog
04:14 phanes; talking about followers on twitter and shit instead of epistemological bases for their arguments
04:14 TR News; (NEW): Videos: Parody, Backup, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Videos_Parody_Backup_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Videos_Parody_Backup_and_More.gmi
04:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos: Parody, Backup, and More
04:15 phanes; what the fuck happened
04:15 phanes; its like someone lowered the difficulty on life without resetting all the players
04:15 TR News; Gulag is a spying company; would you trust it with your chips? https://opensource.googleblog.com/2022/10/announcing-globalfoundries-open-mpw-shuttle-program.html
04:15 TR Bot; Google funds open source silicon manufacturing shuttles for GlobalFoundries PDK | Google Open Source Blog
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04:19 TR News; (NEW): About Debian Brasil at Latinoware 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/About_Debian_Brasil_at_Latinoware_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/About_Debian_Brasil_at_Latinoware_2022.gmi
04:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines About Debian Brasil at Latinoware 2022
04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
04:22 TR News; WebVTT support, CSS and more | Subtitle Composer https://subtitlecomposer.kde.org/2022/11/12/webvtt-support.html Source: KDE | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//subtitlecomposer.kde.org/2022/11/12/webvtt-support.html
04:22 TR Bot; WebVTT support, CSS and more | Subtitle Composer
04:24 TR News; (NEW): NsCDE | Not So Common Desktop Environment on openSUSE http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/NsCDE_Not_So_Common_Desktop_Environment_on_openSUSE.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/NsCDE_Not_So_Common_Desktop_Environment_on_openSUSE.gmi
04:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines NsCDE | Not So Common Desktop Environment on openSUSE
04:24 geert; phanes, you did not *win* *a* *single* *argument*
04:24 geert; you were wrong many times
04:24 geert; you appear a kind of plagued bigoted little shit so to speak
04:25 geert; you did not change a single fact, do you even get to comprehend that?
04:25 TR News; Excess deaths AND long-term sickness dramatically increased in the UK https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/13/sickness-crisis/
04:25 TR Bot; Blog Archive Almost 13,000 UK Deaths Per Week, Sickness Crisis That Corporate Media Doesnt Talk About
04:25 phanes; geert, ok young one, try to recover
04:25 TR News; "Tragic that ONS uses proprietary Microsoft formats as the sole option in some cases" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/13/latest-data-supplied-by-ons/
04:26 geert; phanes, maybe after you get more about math you finaly get to understand how uncomplicated it *should* be considered.
04:27 geert; considered/understood.
04:27 phanes; hasn't happened to anybody yet
04:27 phanes; except you, of course, who know so little about it
04:28 phanes; are you done being stupid because unlike you i don't pretend to be busy
04:28 geert; wrong, wrong, more wrong and wrong.
04:28 phanes; there's that head in the sand approach
04:28 TR News; Giveaway or ad? Seems promotional. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/11/13/giveaway-week-mekotronics-r58-mini-pc/
04:28 TR Bot; Giveaway Week - Mekotronics R58 mini PC - CNX Software
04:28 geert; maybe you would get to 'yes - no' with me for about half an hour or so
04:28 phanes; the one we talked about five minutes in that i said you probably do to avoid exposure to complexity in the unknown
04:29 geert; no.
04:29 phanes; you don't remember? it's a publicly logged channel
04:29 phanes; i'll see if i can find you the link
04:29 geert; oof why didnt you just get to pretend 'yes' instead
04:30 TR News; Wallpapers have NOTHING to do with Microsoft Windows. This is just Sayak Boral being a bootlicker of these criminals, as usual. https://www.maketecheasier.com/4k-desktop-backgrounds-windows/
04:30 TR Bot; 18 Cool 4K Desktop Backgrounds for Windows - Make Tech Easier
04:31 phanes; geert, here you go: http://techrights.org/irc-channel/
04:31 TR Bot; IRC Channels | Techrights
04:31 TR News; "Well, 2022 was a long and crazy year for me (health wise as well) but Im trying to get back on track and focus and concentrate on new things in life!" https://fossjon.wordpress.com/2022/11/12/more-nostalgia-the-older-i-get/ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/13/sickness-crisis/
04:31 TR Bot; More Nostalgia The Older I Get Jon's FOSS Blog
04:40 phanes; this sausage i made from raw pork butt turned out great
04:49 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: watching https://odysee.com/@SomeOrdinaryGamers:a/the-greatest-twitter-moment-just:2
04:49 TR Bot; The Greatest Twitter Moment Just Happened...
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5 AM, November 13
05:06 TR News; The Twitter Exodus | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/13/the-twitter-exodus/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/13/the-twitter-exodus/
05:06 TR Bot; The Twitter Exodus | Techrights
05:08 TR News; "Tonight I saw a deaf man. He was a veteran who had lost his hearing at war. He was also ill from being exposed to chemical bombs." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1195
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05:08 TR News; Salt Crystals (2022-11-12) gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20221112-0.gmi
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05:08 TR News; Component-based Software Development gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/dbane/gemlog/2022-11-12.gmi
05:09 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D753.jpg
05:09 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D411.jpg
05:10 TR News; Adoption Curves gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-11-12.curve.gmi
05:17 TR News; backup-schestowitz.com-11-13-2022.tar
05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
05:20 schestowitz[TR]; backup day :-)
05:26 TR News; Microsoft is Laying Off Contractors, Not Only Full-Time Staff (the Ones Counted or Mentioned by Microsoft) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/13/microsoft-lays-off-contractors/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/13/microsoft-lays-off-contractors/
05:26 TR Bot; Microsoft is Laying Off Contractors, Not Only Full-Time Staff (the Ones Counted or Mentioned by Microsoft) | Techrights
05:27 TR News; Microsoft - Layoffs: 2022 http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_-_Layoffs#2022
05:27 TR Bot; Microsoft - Layoffs - Techrights
05:31 TR News; 2022-11-12 Fractal Images: - Mandelbrot 000DH gemini://gem.librehacker.com/fractals/mandelbrot/mand000d.png
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05:51 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Twitter got rid of a bunch of contractors today.
05:52 schestowitz[TR]; twitter also?
05:52 schestowitz[TR]; contractors as a gotcha
05:52 schestowitz[TR]; no "WARN Act" AFAIK
05:52 schestowitz[TR]; so they don't count them
05:53 schestowitz[TR]; "sorry, lads, the contract is completed"
05:53 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, twitter got contractors for "content moderation"
05:53 schestowitz[TR]; cheap labour
05:53 schestowitz[TR]; if tweet mentions "gates" and "patents", then SUSPEND
05:54 schestowitz[TR]; you have to wonder if Bill and Lolita GGates Foundation STILL advertises with (pays) Twitter
05:55 schestowitz[TR]; that coincided with censorship of many Gates critics
05:55 schestowitz[TR]; God forbif you criticise Musk and Gates
05:55 schestowitz[TR]; very poor people
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6 AM, November 13
06:02 reptilian_thrills; /me wonders if it costs more to buy twitter or say, a bridg
06:03 reptilian_thrills; e
06:03 reptilian_thrills; (e costs extra)
06:03 reptilian_thrills; really its just for flauntinge
06:04 reptilian_thrills; thats why they did awaye with it, too classiste
06:04 reptilian_thrills; in france they dont care, too classiste they just take your heade offe
06:04 reptilian_thrills; but in americae image still matterse
06:05 reptilian_thrills; microsofte lgbtqe flage
06:05 reptilian_thrills; sure we work for holocaust deniers, but we get more customers if we pretend to give a shit about their pathetic lives
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06:06 reptilian_thrills; wb
06:13 starstreak; :)
06:16 reptilian_thrills; "screw you gyues! wye wyeel myake ouyr owyn spacye shyuttle! wyith blyack jyack, aynd hyookers!"-- soviet union, when it was still badass
06:17 reptilian_thrills; ripping off the space shuttle and actually making improvements is one of historys greatest hacks
06:17 reptilian_thrills; they were (probably) lying about the hookers though
06:18 reptilian_thrills; damned soviet propaganda
06:19 reptilian_thrills; another great hack was when a famous youtuber (not the first id seen do it, only the most fun) broke into a building that was (mostly) welded shut to get a good look at it
06:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
06:20 reptilian_thrills; after hiking a fuckload of miles in mostly blackness to get there, knowing he would be thrown in prison if caught
06:20 reptilian_thrills; Just To Make A Youtube Video
06:21 reptilian_thrills; that was (mostly) welded shut <- there was a huge bit of something metal and laddery in a nearby building, where scientists probably drank chicory, or even coffee
06:21 reptilian_thrills; so they used the laddery thing as just that
06:21 reptilian_thrills; and then they saw it
06:21 reptilian_thrills; and then they got arrested
06:22 reptilian_thrills; and they were finally released as free men (and adorable slavic travelling companion)
06:22 reptilian_thrills; (but shes as formidable as any man i know)
06:22 reptilian_thrills; (she is slavic after all)
06:22 reptilian_thrills; and then nothing happened until he got banned from all of russia for life like a month or two later. which is sad
06:23 reptilian_thrills; still, he had travelled across like 90% of the thing (maybe more)
06:23 reptilian_thrills; and he drank vodka (and babushkas homemade wine) with a lot of people
06:24 reptilian_thrills; which is sad <- what really makes him a nutter though, is he was in ukraine a day before invasion, then he went to the uk, then he went back, to russia
06:25 reptilian_thrills; just to make youtube videos :) okay, probably also for the life experience
06:26 reptilian_thrills; after hiking a fuckload of miles in mostly blackness <- ibm, being the LEAST RACIST architects of the holocaust and holocaust deniers for profit for decades, would insist we call it "denyness" and then ask the fsf to replace their jewish leader with someone more "diverse"
06:26 reptilian_thrills; hitler didnt try that one
06:27 reptilian_thrills; "the jews are preventing us from achieving diversity-- if we get rid of them, we will be MORE diverse!"
06:27 reptilian_thrills; #ibmlogic #thesolutionscompany
06:27 reptilian_thrills; i guess gnu/linux is more diverse too, now that all the other init systems have been replaced with an aryan one
06:28 phanes; that wasn't ibm that was redhat years before ibm was even considering buying redhat
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06:50 TR News; Pushing Pieces gemini://thrig.me/blog/2022/11/12/pushing-pieces.gmi
06:50 reptilian_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dQmK1CnwOUI
06:50 TR Bot; Apple Ad - Drunk Jeff Goldblum - Invidious
06:51 TR News; Going Smol Increases Your Horizons gemini://atyh.net/post-2022-11-12-going-smol-increases-horizons.gmi
06:54 TR News; "The kits and products for sale are great for everyone looking to get started in electronics or start a project they have been interested in." https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5480
06:54 TR Bot; Week! - News - SparkFun Electronics
06:54 reptilian_thrills; in the 90s pizza was expensive as fuck, because (according to jeff goldblum) 3 pizzas cost more than 1 mac
06:55 reptilian_thrills; "um, i want chrome on one side, and on the other half, just cameras"
06:56 reptilian_thrills; /me is waiting for apple to come out with a phone thats just a miniature scale monolith from 2001: a space odyssey
06:56 TR News; (NEW): Kodi: The Best Way to Organize and Enjoy Your Media Library http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Kodi_The_Best_Way_to_Organize_and_Enjoy_Your_Media_Library.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Kodi_The_Best_Way_to_Organize_and_Enjoy_Your_Media_Library.gmi
06:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kodi: The Best Way to Organize and Enjoy Your Media Library
06:58 reptilian_thrills; thats just a miniature scale monolith <- it has no features
06:58 reptilian_thrills; just the apple logo
06:58 reptilian_thrills; it wont make calls, or check the weather, or play mp3s, it doesnt have a stylus
06:59 reptilian_thrills; maybe they can put a headphone jack on it (ironically)
06:59 TR News; "In C++, we might implement dynamic lists using the vector template. The int-valued constructor of the vector template allocates at least enough memory to store the provided number of elements in a contiguous manner." https://lemire.me/blog/2022/11/10/measuring-the-memory-usage-of-your-c-program/
06:59 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/11/10/measuring-the-memory-usage-of-your-c-program/ )
06:59 reptilian_thrills; "it doesnt do anything, but it has one. that should make the fuckers happy."
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7 AM, November 13
07:00 reptilian_thrills; i believe in compromise
07:00 reptilian_thrills; people hate the new macbook but they miss their headphone jacks
07:00 reptilian_thrills; i say compromise: put a headphone jack right in the middle of the screen, at the top
07:00 TR News; Collecting and Analyzing Mastodon Data http://blog.schochastics.net/post/rtoot-collecting-and-analyzing-mastodon-data/
07:00 TR Bot; rtoot: Collecting and Analyzing Mastodon Data David Schoch
07:00 reptilian_thrills; then everyones happy
07:01 reptilian_thrills; also put another headphone jack, along with a charging port, at the bottom of the macbook
07:02 reptilian_thrills; so you can charge your macbook without the wireless charging platform... but only if you turn the macbook upside down
07:02 TR News; Sentinel http://r.iresmi.net/2022/11/11/sentinel/
07:02 TR Bot; r.iresmi.net
07:02 reptilian_thrills; or you could put it on a stand
07:03 reptilian_thrills; the cube would probably be suitable as one
07:04 TR News; "This time, it was Dutch Clojure Days 2022, my first post-COVID full-size conference and the first DCD Ive ever been to. And, hopefully, not last. I know I want to come back." https://blog.danieljanus.pl/2022/11/07/dcd-22/
07:04 TR Bot; Dutch Clojure Days 2022
07:04 reptilian_thrills; "at apple, we dont just do things that make no sense-- we do things that make no sense, Better"
07:04 reptilian_thrills; basf: "hey!"
07:04 reptilian_thrills; apple: "aww fuck you, you nazis"
07:04 TR News; "Member of the European Parliament Patrick Breyer (Pirate Party) is shadow rapporteur in the LIBE committee and comments on the proposal" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/european-health-data-space-threat-to-self-determination-and-privacy/
07:04 TR Bot; European Health Data Space: Threat to self-determination and privacy Patrick Breyer
07:04 reptilian_thrills; basf: ":(
07:06 TR News; EU lawmakers and civil society call on Member States for a strong ban on biometric mass surveillance as the negotiations on the AI Act come to a close https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/eu-lawmakers-and-civil-society-call-on-member-states-for-a-strong-ban-on-biometric-mass-surveillance-as-the-negotiations-on-the-ai-act-come-to-a-close/
07:06 TR Bot; EU lawmakers and civil society call on Member States for a strong ban on biometric mass surveillance as the negotiations on the AI Act come to a close Patrick Breyer
07:07 reptilian_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5NQuMr45xd4 <- "we dont make the lotion" (we make it put the lotion on its skin!)
07:07 TR Bot; BASF Commercial (1991) - Invidious
07:07 TR News; Listening devices = ESPIONAGE, not business. "Brace yourselves, Alexa owners. Amazon is looking at cost-cutting, according to a report in the Wall Street Journal, and Alexa looks like a target. The WSJ reports that the business unit has a reported loss of $5 billion a year." https://staceyoniot.com/iot-news-of-the-week-for-nov-11-2022/
07:07 TR Bot; IoT news of the week for Nov. 11, 2022 - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
07:11 reptilian_thrills; "at basf, we dont make zyklon b for nazis... we just make... part of zyklon b for nazis, for the company that makes zyklon b for nazis"
07:11 reptilian_thrills; (they became the same company in 1925, so they did in fact, make zyklon b for nazis)
07:12 reptilian_thrills; (as part of ig farben)
07:12 schestowitz[TR]; epo <3 masfg
07:12 schestowitz[TR]; *basf
07:12 schestowitz[TR]; big client
07:12 schestowitz[TR]; beyer alsdo
07:12 reptilian_thrills; ah yes, bayer
07:12 reptilian_thrills; goldilocks and the 3 aryan bayers
07:12 schestowitz[TR]; feeding thw world's hungry
07:13 schestowitz[TR]; with PESTICIDE
07:13 reptilian_thrills; nom nom nom
07:13 schestowitz[TR]; solving thr world's overpopulation
07:13 schestowitz[TR]; by making people sick
07:13 reptilian_thrills; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_involved_in_the_Holocaust
07:13 TR Bot; List of companies involved in the Holocaust - Wikipedia
07:14 reptilian_thrills; https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/bayer
07:14 TR Bot; Bayer | Holocaust Encyclopedia
07:14 phanes; lol @ this bogus list
07:14 phanes; its like they got tired of fabricating sexual abuse scandals
07:14 TR News; ThePolymathFilm Composer Known as the Third Coen Brother | The New Yorker https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/11/14/the-polymath-film-composer-known-as-the-third-coen-brother Source: New Yorker (Conde Nasty) | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/11/14/the-polymath-film-composer-known-as-the-third-coen-brother
07:14 TR Bot; ThePolymathFilm Composer Known as the Third Coen Brother | The New Yorker
07:16 reptilian_thrills; Behind the Scenes with SORTEDfood Wine Production
07:16 reptilian_thrills; BASF Agricultural Solutions
07:16 reptilian_thrills; Shared 2 weeks ago
07:16 reptilian_thrills; maybe dont use the word "solutions" basf
07:16 TR News; Reflections on SRECon EMEA 2022 https://blog.relyabilit.ie/reflections-on-srecon-emea-2022/
07:16 TR Bot; Reflections on SRECon EMEA 2022
07:16 reptilian_thrills; "too soon?"
07:16 reptilian_thrills; for you? yes
07:17 TR News; "I have to point out that I am not completely against Arc, nor am I declaring its existence to be a failure. I've just decided that it's clearly designed for a different type of user." https://chrishannah.me/arc-browser/
07:17 TR Bot; Arc Browser
07:17 reptilian_thrills; BASF in four minutes
07:17 reptilian_thrills; BASF
07:17 reptilian_thrills; Shared 7 months ago
07:18 reptilian_thrills; they probably dont mention the war
07:18 reptilian_thrills; they only have 4 minutes-- many of the people who they killed took longer than that to die
07:19 reptilian_thrills; Better Living! Realizing innovations with BASF materials for appliances!
07:19 reptilian_thrills; living better! dying less better! being killed by basf, way less better!
07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
07:20 reptilian_thrills; BASF STOCK | DON'T BUY THIS COMPANY | Stock Analysis
07:20 reptilian_thrills; KNTV
07:20 reptilian_thrills; Shared 4 months ago
07:21 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft continues hitler's work:
07:21 reptilian_thrills; watching commercials for companies that were involved in the holocaust really shows you just how over the top marketing really is
07:21 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/
07:21 TR Bot; Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights
07:21 *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights
07:21 schestowitz[TR]; for a few years ICBM pretended to be all abotu racial equality
07:22 schestowitz[TR]; to get people all confused about the company
07:22 schestowitz[TR]; or to hide certain pages from the web
07:22 reptilian_thrills; BASF Exponus Broflanilide 300 GL SC Insecticides, Contain Active Ingredient Broflanilide <- up to their old mischief
07:22 schestowitz[TR]; monopoliesd with EPO
07:22 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> for a few years ICBM pretended to be all abotu racial equality <- well you know why they dont want anyone else saying master
07:22 schestowitz[TR]; with Vichy Battistelli
07:23 reptilian_thrills; if you look up "master" and "race" you might end up accidentally reading ibm and the holocaust
07:23 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@mtbzms9232f2q.irc) has joined #techrights
07:23 DaemonFC; @BaronHK
07:23 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/07/25/watson-offensive/
07:23 DaemonFC; My uncle moved to Georgia decades ago, from Indiana.
07:23 TR Bot; Watson is a Lot More Offensive Than Whitelist and Master | Techrights
07:23 reptilian_thrills; so please look up "main race" instead, and youll probably accidentally read a book about horse
07:23 DaemonFC; I moved to Illinois.
07:23 DaemonFC; We both ended up in the right place for our way of thinking.
07:23 DaemonFC; When I voted to ratify the Workers' Rights Amendment I remembered my uncle at Thanksgiving a couple decades ago spouting anti-union propaganda.
07:23 DaemonFC; When the unions all but disappeared, we got left with jobs that don't buy rent or food, or have healthcare. Which was oddly never a problem before.
07:23 DaemonFC; "Unions solved some problems, but nobody needs them now!"
07:23 DaemonFC; When I had my first job, in Indiana, before the state became a so-called "Right to Work" state, I was in a labor union.
07:23 DaemonFC; When I used my insurance at the doctor, I paid nothing to see him.
07:23 DaemonFC; When I used it at the pharmacy, I had no co-pay on any medication.
07:23 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/09/29/banning-the-word-master/
07:23 DaemonFC; When I got paychecks, there were no "premiums".
07:23 DaemonFC; There were "union dues" of $5 /week. When the company wanted to change working conditions, we voted.
07:23 TR Bot; IBM Fought for Master Race and Now Its Banning the Word Master | Techrights
07:23 DaemonFC; But sure, don't join a union if you get the chance. I'm sure your health insurance is fine.
07:24 reptilian_thrills; i told someone recently that bono was a guilty pleasure, that i cant stand him as a person but as an artist, i still wish i didnt like him
07:24 reptilian_thrills; they said "not the worst person to like"
07:24 reptilian_thrills; i was like "yeah, its not like hes hitler"
07:24 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2010/01/24/microsoft-employees-at-huffington/
07:24 reptilian_thrills; then they were like "well some of paintings were nice, i didnt like that stuff he did in the 30s and 40s"
07:24 TR Bot; Huffington Post Lets Microsoft Lie and Lie and Lie | Techrights
07:24 schestowitz[TR]; (Digital Copyright Canada: "You forgot the real issue here, which is that Bono, Gates and similar pseudo-philanthropists are actively involved with making a variety of teaching (sharing of knowledge) expensive and/or illegal.")
07:25 reptilian_thrills; "leading germany during the holocaust is NOT OK"
07:25 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1314543/Bonos-ONE-foundation-giving-tiny-percentage-funds-charity.html
07:25 TR Bot; Bono's ONE foundation under fire for giving tiny percentage of funds to charity | Daily Mail Online
07:25 schestowitz[TR]; https://inews.co.uk/opinion/bonos-one-charity-scandal-shows-whole-model-aid-must-change-133947
07:25 TR Bot; Bono's ONE charity scandal shows our whole model of aid must change
07:25 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ft.com/content/ba43be5a-2534-11e8-b27e-cc62a39d57a0
07:25 TR Bot; Subscribe to read | Financial Times
07:25 reptilian_thrills; bonos-one-charity-scandal <- haha
07:25 schestowitz[TR]; Bono apologises for abuses at One charity - Financial Times
07:25 schestowitz[TR]; https://nypost.com/2017/11/11/the-hypocrisy-of-bono-and-his-one-charity/
07:25 TR Bot; Inside Bonos boundless hypocrisy
07:25 schestowitz[TR]; https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/entertainment-others/bono-charity-faces-fraud-charges/
07:25 TR Bot; Bono charity faces fraud charges | Entertainment News,The Indian Express
07:26 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/11/world/europe/bono-one-charity-bullying-abuse.html
07:26 TR Bot; Bono Apologizes as Accusations of Bullying and Abuse Hit Charity He Co-Founded - The New York Times
07:26 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.reuters.com/article/safrica-aid-bono-idAFL8N1QT0BY
07:26 TR Bot; star Bono 'deeply sorry' over bullying claims at his charity | Reuters
07:26 reptilian_thrills; bono is an idiot who is occasionally possessed by angels who write nice lyrics and he sings decently enough
07:26 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/bono-s-anti-poverty-charity-apologizes-bullying-harassment-n855661
07:26 TR Bot; Bono's anti-poverty charity apologizes for bullying and harassment
07:26 schestowitz[TR]; Bono's Charity ONE took $14,993,873 in donations from philanthropists, of which a thrifty $184,732 was distributed to charity. More than $8m was spent on executive and employee salaries. http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2010/sep/23/bono-one-millennium-development-goals
07:26 TR Bot; Bono: the celebrity who just keeps giving | Celebrity | The Guardian
07:26 reptilian_thrills; mel gibson made a good movie once
07:26 reptilian_thrills; no, seriously
07:26 schestowitz[TR]; The Guardian = Gates
07:27 schestowitz[TR]; covering up for Boll
07:27 schestowitz[TR]; while he bribes them
07:27 schestowitz[TR]; *Bill
07:27 reptilian_thrills; not the jesus one, that wasnt so great
07:27 schestowitz[TR]; Pro Publican also does deflection work
07:27 reptilian_thrills; oh bono is a complete hypocrite
07:27 schestowitz[TR]; picking on smaller culprits
07:27 schestowitz[TR]; to distract from the Famous Criminal
07:27 reptilian_thrills; i think the most idiotic thing he ever said was that america should be more like china in how it deals with (music) pirates
07:28 reptilian_thrills; that nearly implies that we should execute people for sharing music, though im sure he meant something NEARLY that stupid
07:28 reptilian_thrills; like giving them 20 years
07:28 DaemonFC; @BaronHK
07:28 DaemonFC; I like it that the Starbucks and Amazon workers are unionizing at a ferocious pace and I wanted it to be easier for them.
07:28 DaemonFC; Now it is.
07:28 DaemonFC; They finally realize what George Carlin was saying years ago about the rich.
07:28 DaemonFC; "It's a big club, and you ain't in it! They don't give a **** about you, at all, at all, at all...."
07:28 DaemonFC; Their job is to separate you and to keep you powerless.
07:28 reptilian_thrills; /me wonders how jammie thomas is doing
07:28 DaemonFC; At Walmart, they have the Open Door Policy. Open your mouth, you're out the door. That's the policy.
07:28 DaemonFC;
07:29 TR News; CHARITY STREAM: Upgrading Old Webservers On An 8 Year Old Website (SoylentNews Revival #1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYRz7z3VW9Y
07:29 TR Bot; https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=HYRz7z3VW9Y
07:29 reptilian_thrills; ironically china doesnt give a shit if people share music
07:29 TR Bot; timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=HYRz7z3VW9Y )
07:29 reptilian_thrills; but that only makes him even more of an idiot
07:29 reptilian_thrills; for one, because its the opposite of what he was saying
07:30 reptilian_thrills; still-- bono is many things, hitler is not one of them
07:30 reptilian_thrills; they should have a girl scout badge for not being hitler
07:31 reptilian_thrills; as far as i know, every girl scout (ever) would qualify
07:31 reptilian_thrills; "if anything, we were rangers, meant to stop hitler!"
07:31 reptilian_thrills; its hard to commit genocide when youre full of thin mints
07:32 reptilian_thrills; "der fuhrer was supposed to speak at the rally, but instead he stayed in the bunker and asked for more milk"
07:32 DaemonFC; We need a big beautiful wall.....of organized labor, at Walmart's competitors.
07:32 DaemonFC; Sort of keep them on their toes.
07:32 DaemonFC; In DS9, there's an entire "labor union" episode. The working conditions at Quarks are so bad, his workers strike and form a union, and Chief Miles O'Brien recalls a coal miner strike where the company hired thugs to kill some of the miners. He recalled his grandfather and said, "He was more than a hero. He was a union man!".
07:32 DaemonFC; Well, working at Walmart is like Quark's Bar.
07:32 reptilian_thrills; "damned ranger girls and their cookies!"
07:32 TR News; "Lets briefly explain what a DHCP server actually is and how you can find its IP address on Linux." https://www.makeuseof.com/find-dhcp-server-ip-address-in-linux/ | Source: Make Use Of
07:32 TR Bot; How to Find the IP Address of a DHCP Server in Linux
07:33 DaemonFC; RayneToday
07:33 DaemonFC; @raynetoday@mstdn.social
07:33 DaemonFC; @BaronHK How would the destruction of a corporation by hostile forces differ from what we're witnessing at Twitter?
07:33 TR News; [Old] "Lets start by defining what is firmware?" https://blog.koipond.org.uk/archives/325 |
07:33 TR Bot; Firmware and Debian Koipond
07:33 DaemonFC; @BaronHK
07:33 DaemonFC; @raynetoday
07:33 DaemonFC; Which company would be destroyed by a labor union?
07:33 DaemonFC; Jewel-Osco has one, Mariano's has one, Amazon has one, Starbucks has one, and those are just the big companies in my area.
07:33 DaemonFC; Jewel-Osco and Kroger (Mariano's) aren't even operating at Walmart's scale.
07:33 DaemonFC; They're about to merge and even the merger would leave them with 13% of the US grocery market!
07:33 DaemonFC; Walmart has over 36% Also, a very profitable general merchandise section.
07:33 DaemonFC; Meijer (like Walmart, but it's a midwest thing) has a union.
07:33 reptilian_thrills; i dont think the rangers sold cookies, but at least they didnt work for basf
07:34 TR News; "Im serious about shell startup speed." https://pickard.cc/posts/why-does-zsh-start-slowly/ |
07:34 TR Bot; why does zsh start so slowly?
07:34 TR News; "We should be able to educate enough university teachers and professors, who in turn can teach in Estonian" https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/university-underfunding-existential-threat-estonia | Source: Times Higher Education
07:34 TR Bot; University underfunding a threat to Estonia | Times Higher Education (THE)
07:34 reptilian_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oI_LQ5lR4gU
07:34 TR Bot; Gordon Ramsay Tries Girl Scout Cookies for the First Time - Invidious
07:35 TR News; Clown computing = Proprietary BS, a trap https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/cloud-computing/merely-adopting-cloud-computing-or-technology-does-not-make-you-digitally-transformed-innovers-rakesh-prasad/95445756 | Source: India Times
07:35 TR Bot; Innover: Merely adopting cloud computing or technology does not make you digitally transformed: Innovers Rakesh Prasad, CIO News, ET CIO
07:35 TR News; "Taken together, these developments are all good" https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/3732474-big-tech-purge-may-be-good-for-us-and-the-world/ | Source: The Hill
07:35 TR Bot; Big Tech purge may be good for US and the world | The Hill
07:35 reptilian_thrills; SC man who bought $540 in Girl Scout cookies arrested on drug charges
07:35 DaemonFC; @BaronHK
07:35 DaemonFC; The only reason Walmart would close a store over a labor union is because they want to terrify and send a message to their other workers at their other stores, like they did with the one in Canada.
07:35 DaemonFC; Starbucks has tried doing the same thing, but they can't keep up with workers who aren't afraid of them anymore, and they finally gave up and sat down and negotiated.
07:36 reptilian_thrills; at least we know which drug it probably was
07:36 TR News; fingerprints https://www.newscientist.com/article/2346627-uk-will-use-gps-fingerprint-scanner-to-track-people-facing-deportation/ | Source: New Scientist
07:36 TR Bot; UK Home Office will use GPS fingerprint scanner to track people facing deportation | New Scientist
07:37 DaemonFC; @BaronHK
07:37 DaemonFC; And I'm sorry, but if your company (Starbucks) can charge $6-7 for a damned cup of coffee, you can afford to pay your workers better.
07:37 DaemonFC; I can't imagine that happy workers would be trying to unionize on you all of a sudden because that's not how that happens!
07:37 DaemonFC; <reptilian_thrills> at least we know which drug it probably was
07:38 DaemonFC; Hey, I got the thing if you got the stuff.
07:38 DaemonFC; Thin Mints, motherfucker!
07:38 TR News; Nat Friedman-connected (he works for them) "cryptocurrency platform FTX has gone bankrupt" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/next-gen-technologies/cryptocurrency-platform-ftx-files-for-bankruptcy-boss-resigns-amid-tumult/95464352 | Source: India Times
07:38 TR Bot; Ftx: Cryptocurrency platform FTX files for bankruptcy, boss resigns amid tumult, CIO News, ET CIO
07:38 TR News; Less income to Nat Friedman, the man who attacks Free software for Microsoft https://www.nbcnews.com/news/epic-fall-sam-bankman-fried-was-hailed-crypto-genius-clients-saw-smoke-rcna56583 | Source: NBC
07:38 TR Bot; Before his epic fall, Sam Bankman-Fried was hailed as a crypto genius. Some clients saw smoke and mirrors.
07:39 TR News; "FTX was engulfed in more chaos on Saturday when the [cryptocurrency] exchange said it had detected unauthorized access and analysts said hundreds of millions of dollars of assets had been moved" https://www.voanews.com/a/collapsed-ftx-hit-by-rogue-transactions-at-least-600-million-removed-/6831875.html | Source: VOA News
07:39 TR Bot; Collapsed FTX Hit by Rogue Transactions; at Least $600 Million Removed
07:39 TR News; "Now that ftxs demise is total, what remains are big and difficult questions about how this could have happened" https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2022/11/11/sam-bankman-frieds-crypto-exchange-files-for-bankruptcy | Source: The Economist
07:39 TR Bot; Bankman-Frieds crypto exchange files for bankruptcy | The Economist
07:40 TR News; Electric vehicle = pollution. Fossil fuel vehicle = also pollution, another KIND.
07:40 TR News; "As world leaders meet for another climate summit in Egypt, the U.S. is pushing to mine more lithium for electric vehicle batteries at home" https://text.npr.org/1131365516 | Source: NPR
07:40 TR Bot; A proposed lithium mine presents a climate versus environment conflict
07:41 TR News; Windows TCO https://thehill.com/policy/3731872-how-the-cyber-agenda-would-shift-if-the-gop-takes-over-congress/ | Source: The Hill
07:41 TR Bot; How the cyber agenda would shift if the GOP takes over Congress | The Hill
07:41 TR News; Windows TCO https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/11/11/top-republican-is-warning-against-new-cyber-regulations/ | Source: The Washington Post
07:41 TR Bot; A top Republican is warning against new cyber regulations - The Washington Post
07:42 TR News; "Twitters chief information security officer Lea Kissner and its chief privacy officer Damien Kieran announced their resignations, and they were joined out the door by others who worked on cybersecurity and related teams." https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/safe-use-twitter-security-fears-rise-elon-musk-drives-staff-rcna56864 | Source: NBC
07:42 TR Bot; Is it safe to use Twitter? Security fears rise after Elon Musk drives off staff
07:42 *kiki_ is now known as KiKi
07:43 TR News; "Ive researched leaving Twitter several times. The biggest alternative is Mastodon." https://troypatterson.me/2022/11/01/the-death-of-twitter-and-the-move-to-mastodon/ |
07:43 TR Bot; The Death of Twitter? (And the move to Mastodon)? Troy Patterson
07:43 TR News; Estonian gov. speaks to the culprits https://news.err.ee/1608786838/estonian-president-to-paris-peace-forum-crucial-minors-safe-in-cyberspace | Source: Eesti Rahvusringhling
07:43 TR Bot; Estonian President to Paris Peace Forum: Crucial minors safe in cyberspace | News | ERR
07:44 TR News; Misinformation flourishes as fraudster takes over Twitter. "Twitter moved on Friday to curb fake accounts that have proliferated since Elon Musk's takeover." https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1991015.html | Source: RTL
07:44 TR Bot; RTL Today - In pictures - From Lovestruck Elon to Honest Presidents: Twitter scrambles to curb spread of fake accounts
07:45 TR News; "debates on the nature of free speech have been ongoing throughout American history" https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/how-can-we-restore-free-speech/ | Source: uni Michigan
07:45 TR Bot; How can we restore free speech?
07:45 TR News; "posts are remarkable not only because they represent growing public frustration at China" https://www.cnnphilippines.com/world/2022/11/13/chinese-cantonese-dissent-covid.html | Source: Phillippines
07:45 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.cnnphilippines.com/world/2022/11/13/chinese-cantonese-dissent-covid.html )
07:45 TR News; [Old] "the sentiment and emotionality embedded in news media" https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0276367 | Source: PLOS
07:45 TR Bot; Longitudinal analysis of sentiment and emotion in news media headlines using automated labelling with Transformer language models | PLOS ONE
07:46 TR News; "A bipartisan antitrust bill that aims to keep dominant tech firms from preferencing their own products has been stalled" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3730196-ongoing-fight-for-senate-threatens-fate-of-key-bill-targeting-tech-giants/ | Source: The Hill
07:46 TR Bot; Ongoing fight for Senate threatens fate of key bill targeting tech giants | The Hill
07:47 TR News; "Infringing Website List" https://torrentfreak.com/github-domain-listed-on-police-piracy-blacklist-for-the-last-four-months-221112/ | Source: Torrent Freak
07:47 TR Bot; Domain Listed on Police Piracy Blacklist For The Last Four Months * TorrentFreak
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; "In mid-1939, the formula for the agent was passed to the chemical warfare section of the German Army Weapons Office, which ordered that it be brought into mass production for wartime use. "
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarin
07:48 TR Bot; Sarin - Wikipedia
07:54 TR News; (NEW): 10 Awesome KDE Apps for Everyone [Part 3] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/10_Awesome_KDE_Apps_for_Everyone_Part_3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/10_Awesome_KDE_Apps_for_Everyone_Part_3.gmi
07:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines 10 Awesome KDE Apps for Everyone [Part 3]
07:55 TR News; "I made a decision recently that I wanted to learn more Python so I could improve my instructional skills" https://opensource.com/article/22/11/learn-python | Source: OpenSource.com
07:55 TR Bot; Python: 7 of my favorite resources | Opensource.com
07:56 TR News; "The /etc/hosts file in Linux or any other operating system is used to map connections between IP addresses and domain names." https://linuxhandbook.com/etc-hosts-file/ | Source: Linux Handbook
07:56 TR Bot; What is the Purpose of /etc/hosts File in Linux
07:57 TR News; "The Partaker J6412 is a Mini PC based on the 2.6 GHz Celeron processor along with Intel UHD graphics" https://linuxgizmos.com/celeron-based-mini-pc-features-triple-2-5-gbe-ports/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
07:57 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/celeron-based-mini-pc-features-triple-2-5-gbe-ports/ )
07:58 TR News; iophk: "sideloading" is a pejorative to stigmatize normal installation https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/ads-and-tracking-is-getting-worse-on:e
07:58 TR Bot; Ads and Tracking is Getting Worse on iPhones
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 76.15 k/sec., IPFS upstream 108.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 66.75
8 AM, November 13
08:05 TR News; iophk: Microsoft omitted from well-deserved scrutiny, apparently intentionally https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/3732474-big-tech-purge-may-be-good-for-us-and-the-world/
08:05 TR Bot; Big Tech purge may be good for US and the world | The Hill
08:06 TR News; Anti-repair car dealership owner no longer chair of consumer protection https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/anti-repair-car-dealership-owner-no:e
08:06 TR Bot; Anti-repair car dealership owner no longer chair of consumer protection
08:06 TR News; Repeat COVID is riskier than first infection, study finds | Taiwan News | 2022-11-11 17:34:00 https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4715008 Source: Taiwan News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4715008
08:06 TR Bot; Repeat COVID is riskier than first infection, study finds | Taiwan News | 2022-11-11 17:34:00
08:06 phanes; omg i think i just realized what elon is doing
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; only now?
08:07 phanes; he knows they'll target advertisers and he knows the mechanism is through impersonations
08:07 phanes; so he's letting the trolls who are attacking twitter pay 8 dollars per troll account they create
08:08 phanes; at scale folks this may actually pay up
08:08 schestowitz[TR]; they suspended this plan
08:08 schestowitz[TR]; icymi
08:09 phanes; oh, i did miss that
08:09 phanes; that's too bad, it would actually explain the madness
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; a better theory
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; is that the sabotage was not a mistake
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; but partly intentional
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; like saying yoiu would fire 75% of staff before even completing the transaction
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; this transaction is partly funded by Saudis
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; and Larrison
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; a Trump ally
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; mv trusthsocial /var/www/
08:12 schestowitz[TR]; chown -R elon /var/www/trusthsocial
08:12 schestowitz[TR]; chmod 755 /var/www/trusthsocial/realDonaldTrump
08:13 phanes; too much money involved for that
08:13 schestowitz[TR]; real money?
08:13 schestowitz[TR]; oil money?
08:13 schestowitz[TR]; speculative money?
08:13 phanes; yeah real money
08:13 schestowitz[TR]; where?
08:13 phanes; people got paid actualy money in this transfer
08:13 phanes; it was one of the largest transactions in human history
08:13 schestowitz[TR]; shareholders?
08:14 schestowitz[TR]; i know it sounds like a "dumb" asertion
08:14 schestowitz[TR]; but
08:14 schestowitz[TR]; explain where the money left from
08:14 schestowitz[TR]; what money
08:14 schestowitz[TR]; and who netted it
08:14 schestowitz[TR]; in what form
08:15 schestowitz[TR]; no briefcases offf benjamims involved
08:15 schestowitz[TR]; we have an econopmy of shell games
08:15 schestowitz[TR]; money = capital
08:15 schestowitz[TR]; capital = currency of control
08:16 schestowitz[TR]; ina "labour" market
08:16 phanes; well first he bought all of their stock shares
08:16 schestowitz[TR]; btw, musk with his fake 'currency' must have lost a lot
08:16 schestowitz[TR]; like, 80% in that area alone
08:16 schestowitz[TR]; bezos and gates 'lost' to the wives
08:16 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, gates will be 70 sooon
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; he'll die and leave behind a dark "legacy" (people hate him)
08:17 phanes; after purchasing all of the outstanding shares he brought the company private which involves a buyback from shareholders
08:17 phanes; so if you own 5k in twitter stock at the time, you get a check for 5k
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; he put in 13% iirc
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; entered board
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; offered to buy the whole lot
08:18 phanes; well you're right that it wasn't all his money
08:18 schestowitz[TR]; he is NOT the sole owner
08:18 schestowitz[TR]; you need to read who puts in the money
08:18 schestowitz[TR]; he puts in only part of the money
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/09/twitter-saudi-arabia-dissident-spying
08:19 TR Bot; Ex-Twitter employee found guilty of spying on Saudi dissidents | California | The Guardian
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/09/twitter-spy-convicted-saudi-arabia/
08:19 TR Bot; Former Twitter worker guilty of spying for Saudi Arabia
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/former-twitter-employees-charged-with-spying-for-saudi-arabia-by-digging-into-the-accounts-of-kingdom-critics/2019/11/06/2e9593da-00a0-11ea-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ahmad-abouammo-former-twitter-worker-convicted-of-spying-saudi-arabia/
08:19 TR Bot; Former Twitter employees charged with spying for Saudi Arabia - The Washington Post
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/09/tech/former-twitter-employee-conviction/index.html
08:19 TR Bot; Former Twitter manager convicted of spying for Saudi Arabia, accessing private data on users critical of kingdom's government - CBS News
08:19 TR Bot; Twitter employee is convicted in Saudi spy case | CNN Business
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-09/former-twitter-employee-is-convicted-of-spying-for-saudi-arabia
08:19 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
08:19 phanes; that shit happens all the time in corporate software
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; belatedly: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50872118
08:20 TR Bot; removes thousands of Saudi 'state-backed' accounts - BBC News
08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
08:20 phanes; its hardly newsworthy
08:20 schestowitz[TR]; 2015: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-34474798
08:20 TR Bot; Meet Twitter's second biggest shareholder, Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal - BBC News
08:20 schestowitz[TR]; one year before trump elected
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/10/28/saudis-kingdom-holding-company-to-maintain-twitter-stake
08:21 TR Bot; Saudis second largest investors in Twitter after Musk takeover | News | Al Jazeera
08:21 phanes; how are you worried about a saudi spy at twitter but never talk about how vulnerable to this JPMC is
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2022/11/10/saudi-stake-in-twitter-decoding-bidens-statement-on-elon-musks-foreign-connections.html
08:21 TR Bot; Saudi stake in Twitter: Decoding Biden's statement on Elon Musk's foreign link - The Week
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-01/musk-s-twitter-investors-include-saudi-prince-dorsey-and-qatar
08:21 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
08:21 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/11/11/man-charged-in-connection-to-waukegan-murder-almost-a-year-after-being-released-from-prison-in-different-murder-case/
08:21 TR Bot; Man charged in connection to Waukegan murder almost a year after being released from prison in different murder case
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; geopolitical aspects here
08:21 DaemonFC; That's great.
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; twitter should die
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; that side is interfering with civil discourase and truth
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; it's censorship asd a product
08:21 phanes; oh twitter does need to die
08:21 DaemonFC; "The government bungled this repeatedly and the fact that he pleaded guilty to anything at all at this point saved taxpayers money from a potential lawsuit."
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/02/04/twitter-berserk/
08:22 TR Bot; Twitter: We Suspend Your Account For Quoting the Media About Bill Gates | Techrights
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/?p=139543&preview=true
08:22 TR Bot; Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights
08:22 phanes; i can't tell if musk is the useful idiot or if he's got some kind of plan
08:23 phanes; or both
08:23 TR News; Supercon https://hackaday.com/2022/11/12/welcome-back-supercon/ | Source: Hackaday
08:23 TR Bot; Back, Supercon! | Hackaday
08:24 TR News; Faire
08:24 phanes; this space he has entered is too far outside of his experiential base for him to successfully navigate the tech cultures involved
08:24 phanes; and he should know that
08:24 schestowitz[TR]; there are numerous useful idiots with rich parents
08:24 schestowitz[TR]; inc. Nat Friedman
08:24 phanes; i wonder if he /does/ know that though
08:24 schestowitz[TR]; who was attacking Linux
08:24 schestowitz[TR]; attacking GPKL
08:24 schestowitz[TR]; and flaoting fake coins
08:25 schestowitz[TR]; that are now collapsing
08:25 phanes; i really think this may all be surrounding converting his virtual wealth into actual wealth
08:25 schestowitz[TR]; phanes: I regard you s technically apt
08:25 schestowitz[TR]; but in TheRealWorld you will perish
08:25 schestowitz[TR]; you don't play by The Rules
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; Musk is partl of the Establishment
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; and like Boris Johnson
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; even when he fails it's framed as "funny"
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; not as gross abuse
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; and he won't be held accountable
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; he destroyed the live sof many people
08:26 phanes; im not someone who has to play by the rules anymore
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; even robbed people in the paypal days
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; "funny"
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; "what a clown"
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; "nobody is perfect... not even the rich!!'
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; <phanes> i really think this may all be surrounding converting his virtual wealth into actual wealth
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; yes
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; exactly
08:27 phanes; he's "cashing the check" ya think?
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; Tactics: Fake it Till You Make it
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/09/28/upc-song-joke/
08:27 TR Bot; The You Pee, See? (UPC) Tactics: Fake it Till You Make it | Techrights
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; musk =
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; 1) connections
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; 2) fake
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; 3) palstic
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; 4) media "darling"
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; they use those
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; "look, this young man is a success story.. so rich at this age"
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; (according to [citation needed])
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; also:
08:29 schestowitz[TR]; EVs = green
08:29 schestowitz[TR]; Tesla = worth 1000 billion dollars
08:29 schestowitz[TR]; (Tesla operates at a LOSS)
08:29 phanes; anyway, i deliberately positioned myself a long time ago to be outside of the interdependent relationships that facilitate all of this without cutting off my ability to do things in it. i am actually very careful about creating dependencies so that I don't have to ingratiate myself to overlord interests.
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; twitter is like an experiment gone rogue/wrong
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; maybe some high ups rewgard it asss more of a liability than benefit
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; seeing that people sapread there messages
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; they can neither suppress
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; nor change
08:30 phanes; twitter is what happens when activist 4channers gain power and legitimacy
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; so the control part of social control media wanes too
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; and it leads to unwanted behaviour
08:31 phanes; do facebook next
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; work in progress
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; now it's not facebook
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; it's "meta"
08:31 phanes; all of this shit needs a fight club ending and this is the closest to that which can happen
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; facebook is "old product"
08:31 phanes; these companies are holding an entire generation hostage
08:32 phanes; and behind it are screaming assholes with pink and blue hair
08:32 TR News; Bicycle Inner Tube https://hackaday.com/2022/11/12/bicycle-inner-tube-becomes-rugged-pencil-case/ | Source: Hackaday
08:32 TR Bot; Inner Tube Becomes Rugged Pencil Case | Hackaday
08:32 TR News; Old Motherboard https://hackaday.com/2022/11/12/bringing-up-an-old-motherboard-is-a-delicate-process/ | Source: Hackaday
08:32 TR Bot; Up An Old Motherboard Is A Delicate Process | Hackaday
08:32 phanes; some would say that erasing their contributions would regress us by 30 years
08:33 phanes; others would say that's an acceptable loss
08:33 TR News; "fire-breathing billionaire industrialist to protect your stuff" https://hackaday.com/2022/11/12/protect-your-property-with-this-fire-breathing-billionaire/ | Source: Hackaday
08:33 TR Bot; Your Property With This Fire-Breathing Billionaire | Hackaday
08:33 phanes; i say destroy it and remember it so that it doesn't happen again
08:33 schestowitz[TR]; tiktok is still around
08:33 schestowitz[TR]; we reckon it does not profit
08:33 schestowitz[TR]; but bytedance is a spying company
08:33 phanes; tiktok is like the aldi of social media platforms
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; and china might want a mindmap in the sense that it maps minds
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; not the mindmapping software
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; scaoring people globally
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; *Scoring
08:34 phanes; eh
08:34 phanes; tiktok as a platform is suspended by western social media concept
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; latest scandal is,
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; china does keep all the data
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; in china
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; and processes it
08:35 phanes; yeah im just saying, if facebook and twitter die, tiktok is right behind it
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; tiktok probably loses lots of money
08:35 phanes; it'll surge huge for a bit and then choke right out
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; it imitates (cheap imitation) the addictive properties of the US cyber weapons known as Twitter, FB...
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; and offer it for "free"
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; while musk wants to charge for it
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; youtube is a failure
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; as a business
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; trying to amke money with ads
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; but revenue FELL
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; based on latest report
08:36 phanes; it makes shitload of money
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; turns out turning away your audiences is not a long-term strategy
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; <phanes> it makes shitload of money
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; who? what?
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; tiktok?
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; youtube?
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; youtube is expensive to run
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; more and more to store over time
08:36 phanes; what's weird is how many blue haired psychos are talking about how there's not a problem in social media of the suppression of free speech
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; set aside bankdwidth
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; same for netflix, but
08:37 schestowitz[TR]; netflix does not need to store petabytes of extra material eeach day
08:37 schestowitz[TR]; you are conflating two things
08:37 schestowitz[TR]; or a subset and superset
08:37 schestowitz[TR]; psychopaths
08:37 schestowitz[TR]; and people with mental issues or all sorts
08:38 schestowitz[TR]; the people who control twitter are psychopaths
08:38 phanes; tomatoes, tomatos
08:38 schestowitz[TR]; shareholders in wall streets and people with redbrick MBAs
08:38 schestowitz[TR]; who net like $100ml per annum to do nohing
08:38 phanes; those folks are actually fine
08:38 schestowitz[TR]; to write some worthless email from APPLE IPHONE (with golden case!
08:38 phanes; the folks im talking about are destroying their investments with cultural sabatoge
08:39 phanes; sabotage
08:39 schestowitz[TR]; naaa.
08:39 schestowitz[TR]; twitter existed before those cults
08:39 schestowitz[TR]; and still lost money
08:39 phanes; sure it did
08:39 schestowitz[TR]; nothing has changed
08:39 phanes; no
08:39 schestowitz[TR]; it loses money
08:39 schestowitz[TR]; it sucks
08:39 phanes; it made alot of money
08:39 schestowitz[TR]; ir loses active users
08:39 schestowitz[TR]; and tries to aim for "engagement" instead of information
08:39 phanes; and then it got infected culturally
08:39 schestowitz[TR]; no
08:39 schestowitz[TR]; twitter almost never made money
08:40 phanes; dude how many companies does this have to happen to before you see what's going on
08:40 schestowitz[TR]; it made money very briefly when it did what youtube does not
08:40 schestowitz[TR]; *now
08:40 schestowitz[TR]; pissing off the users by throwing ads at them ad infinitum
08:40 schestowitz[TR]; and then many left
08:40 schestowitz[TR]; so back to losses
08:40 phanes; dude it was on the forbes fortune shortlist
08:40 TR News; Secrets of an AT&T Scandal https://scheerpost.com/2022/11/12/secrets-of-an-att-scandal/ | Source: Scheerpost
08:40 TR Bot; of an AT&T Scandal - scheerpost.com
08:41 phanes; ok, 595, but that's still in the fortune 1000
08:41 phanes; oone of the most profitable enterprises on earth
08:41 phanes; it was making money
08:41 schestowitz[TR]; twitter??
08:41 schestowitz[TR]; no
08:42 phanes; https://fortune.com/company/twitter/fortune500/
08:42 TR Bot; 2022 Fortune 500 | Fortune
08:42 phanes; yes
08:42 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.statista.com/statistics/274563/annual-net-income-of-twitter/
08:42 TR Bot; annual net income/loss 2021 | Statista
08:42 phanes; please research before saying these things
08:42 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.statista.com/statistics/274563/annual-net-income-of-twitter/
08:43 schestowitz[TR]; tae your own advice
08:43 schestowitz[TR]; twitter has 13-14 BILLION INDEBT
08:43 schestowitz[TR]; twitter pays each money just the interest on its debt
08:43 *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
08:43 schestowitz[TR]; and now musk need to service debt
08:43 schestowitz[TR]; after 'paying' (not) for it
08:44 schestowitz[TR]; twitter did not make any profit until 2018
08:44 schestowitz[TR]; and even then it was tmemporary
08:44 schestowitz[TR]; because they shut OUT third parties
08:44 schestowitz[TR]; that had worked for OVER A DECADE
08:44 schestowitz[TR]; then imposed "appps"
08:44 schestowitz[TR]; sold location data and such
08:44 schestowitz[TR]; and once it was sold not much was left to sell
08:44 schestowitz[TR]; and users were gradually leaving
08:44 schestowitz[TR]; inc. me
08:45 phanes; their revenue has been over a billion as far back as 2014
08:45 phanes; 2 billion at 2015
08:45 schestowitz[TR]; in q2 2020 twitter LOST 1.3 BILLION in just ONE QUARTER
08:45 phanes; 3 by 2018
08:45 schestowitz[TR]; revenue can still be loss
08:45 schestowitz[TR]; twitter's revenue was almost always less than expenses
08:45 schestowitz[TR]; so they lost money
08:46 schestowitz[TR]; and the longer the company ran, the bigger the debt became
08:46 schestowitz[TR]; they still don't know how to make money
08:46 phanes; https://imgur.com/xRxZ6ut.png | these numbers really speak for themselves
08:46 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/30/technology/elon-musk-twitter-debt.html
08:46 TR Bot; Can Elon Musk Make the Math Work on Owning Twitter? Its Dicey. - The New York Times
08:47 schestowitz[TR]; "Mr. Musk faces financial challenges in owning Twitter. The site frequently loses money and took on $13 billion in debt for the blockbuster deal."
08:47 reptilian_thrills; they still don't know how to make money <- selling the company doesnt count?
08:47 schestowitz[TR]; "Last year, Twitters interest expense was about $50 million. With the new debt taken on in the deal, that will now balloon to about $1 billion a year."
08:47 schestowitz[TR]; "The numbers are already daunting. The $44 billion acquisition was the largest leveraged buyout of a technology company in history. To do the deal, Mr. Musk, the worlds richest man, loaded about $13 billion in debt on the company, which had not turned a profit for eight of the past 10 years."
08:47 *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed)
08:47 schestowitz[TR]; "That gives Mr. Musk little wiggle room, Mr. Pascarella said. They are essentially going to take all the financial resources of the company and just pour it into servicing the debt, he said."
08:47 reptilian_thrills; /me hates the disconnect between "x is dying" and the real free software movement
08:47 schestowitz[TR]; sorry to burst your bubble, phanes
08:47 reptilian_thrills; in the real free software movement, there were things you could do
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; twitter is a failure of the company
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; disservice to society
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; losing money
08:48 reptilian_thrills; in the "x is dying" model, you just keep waiting for things to fix themselves
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; and the disservice aspect is very multi-faceted
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; twitter should just drop dead
08:48 reptilian_thrills; thats what i hate about it. not only is it silly, its passive
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; and stay in the grvae
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; and no company should imitate twittter
08:48 reptilian_thrills; stay tuned, read some articles, wait a few more years
08:48 reptilian_thrills; FOR REALS!
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; it was a failed experiment
08:48 reptilian_thrills; twitter should just drop dead <- on its own
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; speaking of experiments: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28051930
08:48 reptilian_thrills; no call to action
08:48 phanes; except they did have a net profit in 2018, 2019
08:48 TR Bot; Facebook emotion experiment sparks criticism - BBC News
08:49 reptilian_thrills; just wait
08:49 phanes; so
08:49 reptilian_thrills; itll be like novell
08:49 reptilian_thrills; novellisdying.com
08:49 reptilian_thrills; formerly boycott novell
08:49 schestowitz[TR]; novell died
08:49 reptilian_thrills; techisdyingright
08:49 schestowitz[TR]; 3.something years after boycottnovell
08:49 schestowitz[TR]; some ditros claimed that BN had done that
08:49 schestowitz[TR]; killed Novell
08:50 reptilian_thrills; you said bn was too negative a name
08:50 schestowitz[TR]; no
08:50 phanes; yeah schestowitz[TR] i am seeing what you're meaning
08:50 reptilian_thrills; even though the point was perens saying boycott novell
08:50 schestowitz[TR]; I said it was becomign elss relevant
08:50 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> no <- i can find the quote
08:50 schestowitz[TR]; novell was sold in 2010
08:50 phanes; why would he buy it with these numbers
08:50 schestowitz[TR]; boycott is also a strong word
08:50 schestowitz[TR]; but in 2010 it needed to change
08:50 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> no 0 <schestowitz[TR]> I said it was becomign elss relevant <- i can show in 5 minutes you said it was too negative
08:50 reptilian_thrills; less than 5 minutes
08:50 schestowitz[TR]; novell was about to collapse entirely
08:50 reptilian_thrills; you said the name was too negative
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; and many managers were leaving
08:51 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> n <schestowitz[TR]> I said it was becomign elss relevant <- you said it was too negative
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2011/06/28/techrights-advocacy-and-linux-in-boycottnovell/
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; 2011^
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm9F7jUSCKs
08:51 TR Bot; On Techrights Negativism | Techrights
08:51 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Wm9F7jUSCKs
08:51 TR Bot; yewtu.be | On Techrights Negativism - Invidious
08:52 schestowitz[TR]; nasdaq.com/articles/banks-behind-musks-twitter-deal-sitting-on-%2413-billion-in-debt
08:52 schestowitz[TR]; "Banks Behind Musk's Twitter Deal Sitting On $13 Billion In Debt ... his financiers are staring down a $1 billion loss, or more."
08:52 schestowitz[TR]; " About $400m of the $500m in losses that the banks are estimated to have on the Twitter debt are in unsecured, high interest bonds, and they ..."
08:52 schestowitz[TR]; -bil's guardian https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/08/banks-loss-elon-musk-twitter-takeover
08:52 TR Bot; Banks stand to lose at least $500m if they fund Elon Musks Twitter takeover | Elon Musk | The Guardian
08:53 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-07/morgan-stanley-led-banks-face-500-million-loss-on-twitter-debt
08:53 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
08:53 schestowitz[TR]; <phanes> why would he buy it with these numbers
08:53 schestowitz[TR]; exactly
08:53 schestowitz[TR]; impulse
08:54 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.carscoops.com/2021/03/bolivian-president-accuses-elon-musk-and-tesla-of-being-involved-in-countrys-2019-coup/
08:54 TR Bot; President Accuses Elon Musk And Tesla Of Being Involved In Countrys 2019 Coup | Carscoops
08:54 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/after-bolivia-elon-musk-says-capitalists-can-overthrow-any-government-they-want/
08:54 TR Bot; After Bolivia, Elon Musk says capitalists can overthrow any government they want People's World
08:54 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.codepink.org/are_tesla_and_elon_musk_the_key_to_understanding_the_coup_in_bolivia
08:54 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.salon.com/2020/10/20/elon-musk-becomes-twitter-laughingstock-after-bolivian-socialist-movement-returns-to-power/
08:54 TR Bot; Are Tesla and Elon Musk the key to understanding the coup in Bolivia? - CODEPINK - Women for Peace
08:54 TR Bot; Musk becomes Twitter laughingstock after Bolivian socialist movement returns to power | Salon.com
08:54 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/elon-musk-confesses-to-lithium-coup-in-bolivia-20200725-0010.html
08:54 TR Bot; Elon Musk Confesses to Lithium Coup in Bolivia | News | teleSUR English
08:54 schestowitz[TR]; there's our 'hero' ... ELON ;-)
08:54 schestowitz[TR]; our friendly cool, GREEN guy
08:54 schestowitz[TR]; let's bomb countries
08:55 schestowitz[TR]; because "Environment"
08:55 schestowitz[TR]; occupy Mars
08:55 schestowitz[TR]; but first Bolivia
08:55 reptilian_thrills; 08:50 <reptilian_thrills> you said bn was too negative a name 08:50 <schestowitz[TR]> no 08:50 <schestowitz[TR]> I said it was becomign elss relevant <- let me rephrase
08:55 TR News; Fossil greenwashing https://www.desmog.com/2022/11/11/fossil-fuel-industry-sponsors-art-sports-universities-greenwashing/ | Source: DeSmog
08:55 TR Bot; the Fossil Fuel Industry Buys Goodwill - DeSmog
08:56 TR News; "Russia has sent dozens of executives from the countrys vast fossil fuel industry to COP27" https://www.desmog.com/2022/11/12/sanctioned-coal-barons-among-russias-cop27-delegates/ | Source: DeSmog
08:56 TR Bot; Coal Barons Among Russias COP27 Delegates - DeSmog
08:56 reptilian_thrills; you said in a december issue of linux format that "The name Boycott Novell was never my idea and I have always felt some unease about the name (it sounded too negative and about 80% of my output was positive)"
08:56 MinceR; 13 023913 < XRevan86> reptilian_thrills: Sledgehammer.
08:56 MinceR; execution with flair
08:56 schestowitz[TR]; the name is shane's
08:56 schestowitz[TR]; "boycott novell"
08:56 schestowitz[TR]; tessier came up with "techrights"
08:56 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> the name is shane's <- you do this to mjg too
08:56 reptilian_thrills; you dodge like tony blair on iraq/
08:57 reptilian_thrills; then you call it banter when people point out you were wrong
08:57 reptilian_thrills; tessier came up with "techrights <- and you were the one that said the name was "too negative"
08:57 reptilian_thrills; which was my point, but i guess... you dont like that point, even if its factual
08:58 reptilian_thrills; /me goes to get the url on your own website
08:58 TR News; assassination https://scheerpost.com/2022/11/12/uk-executive-is-wining-and-dining-with-people-plotting-the-assassination-of-my-husband/ | Source: Scheerpost
08:58 TR Bot; Executive is Wining and Dining with People Plotting the Assassination of My Husband' - scheerpost.com
08:59 reptilian_thrills; The name Boycott Novell was never my idea and I have always felt some unease about the name (it sounded too negative and about 80% of my output was positive) http://techrights.org/2011/01/03/techrights-interview-2010/
08:59 TR Bot; Raw Interview With Linux Format Magazine | Techrights
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08:59 reptilian_thrills; out of tens of thousands of articles, this one really stood out with me
08:59 schestowitz[TR]; this interview was before novell was sold
08:59 reptilian_thrills; because the idea that "boycott novell" for a site that started with that Express Purpose being "too negative"
08:59 reptilian_thrills; is just silly
9 AM, November 13
09:00 reptilian_thrills; this interview was before novell was sold <- id love to know how thats relevant
09:00 schestowitz[TR]; two motivations
09:01 schestowitz[TR]; 1) make it a one-word and less focused title
09:01 reptilian_thrills; because the idea that "boycott novell" for a site that started with that Express Purpose being "too negative" <- fits both your 10 year wishy-washy stance on systemd (which actually mattered) and your general lack of a call to action on nearly anything since the name change
09:01 schestowitz[TR]; 2) don't focus on company that ceased to exist
09:01 reptilian_thrills; 3) remove any call to action and just make it about blogging
09:01 schestowitz[TR]; systemd did not start then
09:01 reptilian_thrills; thats not the point
09:01 schestowitz[TR]; and it was preceded by othjer LPware
09:01 reptilian_thrills; 1. it started a year later actually
09:01 reptilian_thrills; 2. the point was your stance fit the same pattern
09:02 reptilian_thrills; "too negative" <- i mean "x is dying"
09:02 reptilian_thrills; but just wait (no call to action)
09:02 schestowitz[TR]; no, that's not negative
09:02 schestowitz[TR]; x is dying is observatory
09:02 schestowitz[TR]; boycott x is call for actrion
09:02 reptilian_thrills; so its only negative if theres a call to do something?
09:02 schestowitz[TR]; more so, yes
09:02 reptilian_thrills; i mean, thats open source to a tee
09:02 reptilian_thrills; dont lets be beastly to the corporations
09:02 reptilian_thrills; just watch them die on their own
09:03 reptilian_thrills; i have a problem with how watered down and do-nothing the movement in general is
09:03 reptilian_thrills; thats not your fault
09:03 schestowitz[TR]; naming of site is at stake here
09:03 reptilian_thrills; but you do pander to it
09:03 schestowitz[TR]; not wehat we do
09:03 schestowitz[TR]; Greenpeace is called GREEN PEACE
09:03 schestowitz[TR]; not "sink the oil tankers"
09:03 reptilian_thrills; not wehat we do <- i dont agree, as i said, your wishy-washy stance on systemd for 10 years fits this too
09:04 reptilian_thrills; nothing to do with the name, except the common link of "just wait for it to die on its own"
09:04 schestowitz[TR]; now you are a systemd expert?
09:04 reptilian_thrills; which would make a terrible url
09:04 schestowitz[TR]; and I'm some n00b?
09:04 reptilian_thrills; and I'm some n00b? <- this is changing the subject again. youre dodging
09:04 reptilian_thrills; and I'm some n00b? <- i didnt say that and youre dodging like a politician
09:04 schestowitz[TR]; no, you frame this unfairly
09:04 schestowitz[TR]; I'll be back later, breaskfast
09:04 reptilian_thrills; why can you be a real person for two seconds
09:05 reptilian_thrills; I'll be back later, breaskfast <- youre a fucking coward and you hide behind lies and bullshit 24/7
09:05 reptilian_thrills; enjoy your breakfast you spineless twat
09:05 reptilian_thrills; go run for prime minister
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09:07 phanes; to roy's point, novell faded into obscurity
09:07 phanes; just because it didn't declare bankruptcy doesn't mean it didn't die
09:08 phanes; these big projects that get acquired are backed by corporate and federal contracts
09:08 phanes; so
09:08 phanes; they can't die usually
09:09 phanes; anyway roy, apologies for saying you weren't researching twitter, i didn't realize their numbers were that bad
09:16 *schestowitz[TR] back
09:16 schestowitz[TR]; phanes: thanks
09:17 schestowitz[TR]; I didn't know either until about 5 years ago
09:17 schestowitz[TR]; Tim Bray mentioned they were not making money
09:17 schestowitz[TR]; and then I checked
09:18 TR News; Late stage capitalism? https://truthout.org/articles/labor-department-accuses-slaughter-house-company-of-employing-dozens-of-children/ | Source: TruthOut
09:18 TR Bot; Labor Department Accuses Slaughter House Company of Employing Dozens of Children
09:19 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/bones
09:19 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Bones
09:19 TR News; Streamdeck https://hackaday.com/2022/11/12/diy-streamdeck-helps-you-professionalize-your-twitch-show/ | Source: Hackaday
09:19 TR Bot; Streamdeck Helps You Professionalize Your Twitch Show | Hackaday
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:20 TR News; "Why to Be Wary of Another Volcker-Type Monetary Tightening." https://scheerpost.com/2022/11/12/collateral-damage-from-higher-interest-rates/ | Source: Scheerpost
09:20 TR Bot; Damage From Higher Interest Rates - scheerpost.com
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09:28 reptilian_thrills; heres why roys solution to every problem is complaining and waiting for it to go away on its own
09:28 reptilian_thrills; this isnt a joke
09:28 reptilian_thrills; roy has shitty parents. theyre narcissistic and impossible to talk to. he cant fix them.
09:29 reptilian_thrills; he can only way for them to die. hes made several comments that imo demonstrate he doesnt care about them either
09:29 reptilian_thrills; i dont blame him for that.
09:29 reptilian_thrills; most people reach a point where they figure out that (some) other people are different
09:29 reptilian_thrills; because they differentiate, they realise that one person has one problem, another person has a different problem (and a different solution)
09:30 reptilian_thrills; roys solution to everything he doesnt like is wait for it to die
09:30 reptilian_thrills; that means he never learned to differentiate between his parents and other problems
09:30 reptilian_thrills; hes just waiting for everything he doesnt like to go away
09:30 reptilian_thrills; 15 years of watching the tech industry die
09:30 reptilian_thrills; but its better to fight it than wait
09:31 TR News; "In the Java programming language, a hashmap is a list of associated values. Java uses hashmaps to store data. If you keep a lot of structured data, it's useful to know the various retrieval methods available." https://opensource.com/article/22/11/hashmap-java
09:31 TR Bot; a hashmap in Java | Opensource.com
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09:32 TR News; "Ransomware generally attacks only systems running Microsoft's Windows operating system." https://itwire.com/security/govt-announces-100-strong-force-to-hunt-down-online-attackers.html
09:32 TR Bot; - Govt announces 100-strong force to hunt down online attackers
09:32 schestowitz[TR]; <reptilian_thrills> roy has shitty parents. theyre narcissistic and impossible to talk to. he cant fix them.
09:32 schestowitz[TR]; ??
09:32 schestowitz[TR]; where did you get THAT? It's false.
09:36 TR News; (NEW): Microsoft Security http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Microsoft_Security.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Microsoft_Security.gmi
09:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines Microsoft 'Security'
09:36 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/today_s_howtos.gmi
09:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; "In a conversation with ET Digital, Rakesh Prasad, Senior Vice-President - Digital Services, Innover, talks about the need for clarity, what digital transformation can achieve and the trends to watch out for."
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; " digital transformatio"
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; management BS
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; digital
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; for companes that are ALREADY digital
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; transformatios = move tot he next complexity/hype wave/fashion
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; replace what alrady works
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; and which your staff knew how to maintain
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; because of ICBM and Microsoft brochures sent to suits
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09:39 reptilian_thrills; roys solution to everything he doesnt like is wait for it to die <- of course, when you get tired of waiting, it also helps to make up (or exaggerate) reasons that they will go sooner
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; "are you STILL not sending all your customer's DATA TO CIA ET AL? Hurry up!"
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; "you might be left behind the curve"
09:40 reptilian_thrills; since we are all roys parents, he doesnt feel bad about using us and lying to us. after all-- we are shitty parents
09:40 reptilian_thrills; that about sum you up, roy?
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; reptilian_thrills: clown computing is already waning
09:40 reptilian_thrills; i see
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; and those of us who skipped the clown are better off
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; we don't need to get "off" the clown
09:40 reptilian_thrills; yeah, good riddance
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; it's just adding up costs and risks
09:40 reptilian_thrills; we don't need to get "off" the clown <- lol so give them more money even though they dont deserve it?
09:40 reptilian_thrills; because theyre going to tank anyway?
09:41 reptilian_thrills; youre a funny man
09:41 schestowitz[TR]; see press reports about it
09:41 reptilian_thrills; you should try following your own logic sometimes
09:41 schestowitz[TR]; some companies now make plans to get OFF the clown
09:41 schestowitz[TR]; to save money
09:41 reptilian_thrills; like perl code... maybe not like perl code
09:41 TR News; (NEW): Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.7 Is Officially Out with New Capabilities and System Roles http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_8_7_Is_Officially_Out_with_New_Capabil.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_8_7_Is_Officially_Out_with_New_Capabil.gmi
09:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.7 Is Officially Out with New Capabilities and System Roles
09:42 reptilian_thrills; some companies now make plans to get OFF the clown <- further evidence that clown is going away
09:42 reptilian_thrills; theres some sad things known to man, but not too much sadder than the tears of the clown
09:42 reptilian_thrills; when theres no one around
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09:43 schestowitz[TR]; there are press reports
09:43 schestowitz[TR]; we mentioned those in a video last week as well
09:43 schestowitz[TR]; you cannot make your own gfas for heating
09:43 schestowitz[TR]; but you can run your own servers
09:44 schestowitz[TR]; the spying companies don't get to become "public utility" for b/w and cpu
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09:44 reptilian_thrills; stick up for your parents you silly bastard. theyre good people, arent they?
09:44 reptilian_thrills; idk
09:44 schestowitz[TR]; turns out amazon loses billions of its listening devices
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09:44 schestowitz[TR]; source: WSJ
09:44 schestowitz[TR]; it's about data collection
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; maybe even spies will have remorse
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; seeing and hearing that much of this data is worthless
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; just recording inside people's homes
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; and mostly getting junk
09:58 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, November 12, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/13/irc-log-121122/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/13/irc-log-121122/
09:58 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, November 12, 2022 | Techrights
09:59 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, November 12, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/13/irc-log-121122/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/13/irc-log-121122/
10 AM, November 13
10:00 TR News; Links 12/11/2022: Nat Friedman-Linked FTX Collapses Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/13/ftx-nat-friedman/ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/13/ftx-nat-friedman/
10:00 TR Bot; Links 12/11/2022: Nat Friedman-Linked FTX Collapses | Techrights
10:00 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
10:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
10:01 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/today_s_leftovers.gmi
10:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
10:01 TR News; (NEW): Hardware: Partaker J6412, GlobalFoundries, and SparkFun http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Hardware_Partaker_J6412_GlobalFoundries_and_SparkFun.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Hardware_Partaker_J6412_GlobalFoundries_and_SparkFun.gmi
10:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines Hardware: Partaker J6412, GlobalFoundries, and SparkFun
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10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
11:29 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/11/13/pmc-wagner-posts-video-of-execution-with-sledgehammer-of-one-of-its-imprisoned-fighters-the-man-spent-time-in-ukrainian-captivity-and-criticised-putin-in-ukraines-media-tw-en-news "PMC Wagner posts video of execution with sledgehammer of one of its imprisoned fighters. The man spent time in Ukrainian captivity and criticised Putin in Ukraines media (NSF
11:29 XRevan86; W)"
11:29 TR Bot;
11:29 XRevan86; And so here's an article.
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13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:42 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/11/13/russias-justice-ministry-to-begin-publishing-personal-data-of-foreign-agents-starting-from-december-en-news "Russias Justice Ministry to begin publishing personal data of foreign agents starting from December"
13:42 TR Bot;
13:42 XRevan86; Great idea, witch hunts incoming.
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14:08 AdmFubar; https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/facebook-probably-has-your-phone-number-even-if-you-never-shared-it.448603/
14:08 TR Bot; Facebook probably has your phone number, even if you never shared it | Wilders Security Forums
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14:55 AdmFubar; https://lifehacker.com/avoid-using-blue-mailboxes-during-the-holidays-usps-wa-1849773201
14:55 TR Bot; Avoid Using Blue Mailboxes During the Holidays, USPS Warns
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15:04 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu 23.04 Lunar Lobster Release Date Slated for April 20th, 2023 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Ubuntu_23_04_Lunar_Lobster_Release_Date_Slated_for_April_20th_2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Ubuntu_23_04_Lunar_Lobster_Release_Date_Slated_for_April_20th_2.gmi
15:04 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu 23.04 Lunar Lobster Release Date Slated for April 20th, 2023
15:07 TR News; Trying to blame insiders while putting back doored crap inside companies. Maybe the people who deploy Windows are the inside threat https://www.mandiant.com/resources/blog/insider-threat-impact-studies
15:07 TR Bot; Threat: Impact Studies | Mandiant
15:08 TR News; "The Suunto watches (Spartan, Suunto 9,) can record waypoints (or POIs) but although they can be visualized in the Suunto app (or on the watch), they cannot be exported to be used with other tools. It used to be possible to access them from the Movescount website but it was discontinued a few months ago." http://r.iresmi.net/2022/11/02/extract-pois-from-a-suunto-watch/
15:09 TR Bot; POIs from a Suunto watch r.iresmi.net
15:10 TR News; A web application for forecasting in Python, R, Ruby, C#, JavaScript, PHP, Go, Rust, Java, MATLAB, etc. https://thierrymoudiki.github.io//blog/2022/11/02/python/r/forecasting/misc/forecasting-api Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//thierrymoudiki.github.io//blog/2022/11/02/python/r/forecasting/misc/forecasting-api
15:10 TR Bot; A web application for forecasting in Python, R, Ruby, C#, JavaScript, PHP, Go, Rust, Java, MATLAB, etc.
15:11 TR News; "Using GIS data directly from data.gouv.fr : railways network of France." http://r.iresmi.net/2022/11/06/use-data-from-data-gouv-fr/
15:11 TR Bot; data from data.gouv.fr r.iresmi.net
15:12 TR News; "Lately I wanted to play around with nflfastR. Thats a great package giving you access to NFLs play-by-play data since 1999. It lets you download all the data and store it in several different databases." https://rstats-tips.net/2022/11/06/how-to-use-nflfastr-with-google-bigquery/
15:12 TR Bot; to use nflfastR with Google BigQuery? - rstats-tips.net
15:13 TR News; Scaling Shiny Apps for Python and R: Sticky Sessions on Heroku https://hosting.analythium.io/scaling-shiny-apps-for-python-and-r-sticky-sessions-on-heroku/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//hosting.analythium.io/scaling-shiny-apps-for-python-and-r-sticky-sessions-on-heroku/
15:13 TR Bot; Scaling Shiny Apps for Python and R: Sticky Sessions on Heroku
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15:14 TR News; "Scrape and geolocate data from Wikipedia. We will map the active space launch sites." http://r.iresmi.net/2022/11/09/use-data-from-wikipedia/
15:14 TR Bot; data from Wikipedia r.iresmi.net
15:19 XRevan86; https://neuters.de/world/middle-east/central-istanbul-blast-leaves-multiple-wounded-media-video-2022-11-13/
15:19 TR Bot; Four dead in blast on busy central Istanbul avenue, cause unknown
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:21 TR News; Microsoft infiltration of R: "I was paying for the meetup pro account with my money and then we had support from Revolution Analytics and Microsoft." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/11/preparing-to-thrive-by-collaborating-with-local-universities/ see https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/11/preparing-to-thrive-by-collaborating-with-local-universities/
15:21 TR Bot; to Thrive by Collaborating with Local Universities | R-bloggers
15:23 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/r-foundation-and-linux-foundation/
15:23 TR Bot; The R Foundation and R Consortium Arent the Same; One is a Front Group for Corporations Like Microsoft | Techrights
15:38 TR News; "What if all private swimming pools could be merged into one 25 m width pool? OSM is not just a map, its a database, so ask OSM I know that not all swimming pools are present in OSM, but its just an exercise and it can give us an order of magnitude or at least a minimum." http://r.iresmi.net/2022/11/09/the-giant-french-olympic-size-swimming-pool/
15:38 TR Bot; giant French Olympic-size swimming pool r.iresmi.net
15:39 TR News; "My new package lazyNumbers is a port of the lazy numbers implemented in the C++ library CGAL. The lazy numbers represent the real numbers and arithmetic on these numbers is exact." https://laustep.github.io/stlahblog/posts/lazyNumbers.html
15:39 TR Bot; Saturn Elephant - The lazy numbers in R
15:54 TR News; "Lets say we want to store some data on multiple drives, so that we can recover from drive failures." http://mazzo.li/posts/reed-solomon.html
15:54 TR Bot; The essence of Reed-Solomon coding
15:54 TR News; Whose money? Surveillance capitalism? https://staceyoniot.com/google-nest-wifi-pro-review-matter-ready-and-good-for-the-money/
15:54 TR Bot; Google Nest Wifi Pro review: Matter ready and good for the money - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
15:55 TR News; "Heres when youll get Matter on your devices" as if you must accept spy things inside your home and you should look forward to it https://staceyoniot.com/podcast-heres-when-youll-get-matter-on-your-devices/
15:55 TR Bot; Podcast: Here's when you'll get Matter on your devices - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
15:56 TR News; "This uses the sub function to perform a regexp based substitution, actually replacing the entire input string (the URL) with a new string made up from the capture groups defined." https://qmacro.org/blog/posts/2022/11/08/extracting-blog-post-dates-from-urls-with-jq/
15:56 TR Bot; Extracting blog post dates from URLs with jq | DJ Adams
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16:09 TR News; SpellBinding: CDENOSY Wordo: DOUBT gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-11-13.gmi
16:10 TR News; Internationalizing Zond gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/internationalizing_zond.gmi
16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
16:22 TR News; Conde Nast (Microsofters) shilling Rust https://www.wired.com/story/rust-secure-programming-language-memory-safe/
16:22 TR Bot; Rise of Rust, the Viral Secure Programming Language Thats Taking Over Tech | WIRED
16:23 TR News; Calling everything HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://www.pcmag.com/news/shift-robotics-used-ai-to-create-the-worlds-fastest-shoes
16:23 TR Bot; Robotics Used AI to Create the 'World's Fastest Shoes' | PCMag
16:23 TR News; Quanta Magazine https://www.quantamagazine.org/monumental-math-proof-solves-triple-bubble-problem-and-more-20221006/ Source: Quanta Magazine | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.quantamagazine.org/monumental-math-proof-solves-triple-bubble-problem-and-more-20221006/
16:24 TR Bot; Quanta Magazine
16:24 TR News; Non-cooperative wi-fi localization & its privacy implications https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3495243.3560530
16:24 TR Bot;
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16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 142.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 62.13
5 PM, November 13
17:07 TR News; Selling hype, bubble https://www.coindesk.com/sponsored-content/meet-the-teams-collaborating-to-build-an-infinite-universe-of-metaverses/
17:07 TR Bot; Meet the Teams Collaborating to Build an Infinite Universe of Metaverses
17:08 TR News; NY Times writing total BS with HEY HI in headlines https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/04/dining/ai-thanksgiving-menu.html
17:08 TR Bot; Is This A.I. Thanksgiving Menu Better Than a Humans? - The New York Times
17:09 TR News; "Between 2022-11-06 and 2022-11-13 there were 111 new games validated for the Steam Deck. HWe use multiple factors such as popularity, ratings and more to come up with this list of Best Steam Deck Games." https://boilingsteam.com/best-steam-deck-games-released-in-the-past-week-2022-11-13-edition/
17:09 TR Bot; Best Steam Deck Games Released in the Past Week - 2022-11-13 Edition - Boiling Steam
17:13 TR News; (NEW): Mozilla Firefox 107 Available to Install via Ubuntu PPA http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Mozilla_Firefox_107_Available_to_Install_via_Ubuntu_PPA.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Mozilla_Firefox_107_Available_to_Install_via_Ubuntu_PPA.gmi
17:13 TR Bot; Tux Machines Mozilla Firefox 107 Available to Install via Ubuntu PPA
17:16 TR News; "This is the second part of the "A gaze of iterators!" series." https://dev.to/lizmat/a-gaze-of-iterators-part-2-356f
17:16 TR Bot; Pushing the limits - DEV Community
17:18 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Android_Leftovers.gmi
17:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
17:19 TR News; (NEW): top vs htop: What's the Difference? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/top_vs_htop_What_s_the_Difference.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/top_vs_htop_What_s_the_Difference.gmi
17:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines top vs htop: What's the Difference?
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
17:23 TR News; Mold: we use Microsoft Proprietary Prison for development and it doesn't work out for us https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mold-1.7
17:23 TR Bot; 1.7 Released But May Need To Change Software License If Funding Not Secured - Phoronix
17:23 TR News; hwmon: add OneXPlayer mini AMD sensors driver https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/groeck/linux-staging.git/commit/?h=hwmon-next&id=fc11f6a2ced634f7f8c57d7454fea4133ec7d8ce
17:23 TR Bot; kernel/git/groeck/linux-staging.git - hwmon staging tree
17:25 TR News; Two horrible things combined? https://retailwire.com/discussion/can-disney-marry-streaming-and-shopping/
17:25 TR Bot; Disney marry streaming and shopping? - RetailWire
17:25 TR News; "Hear more from the authors below, and learn why the sector could boost US GDP by $275 billion to $460 billion while adding up to 1.5 million jobs." https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/themes/the-future-of-manufacturing-and-why-manufacturing-is-the-future
17:26 TR Bot; future of manufacturing--and why manufacturing is the future | McKinsey & Company
17:27 TR News; Banks rake in $29 billion profit bonanza as rates on mortgages outpace rates on savings - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/banks-rake-in-29-billion-profit-bonanza-as-rates-on-mortgages-outpace-rates-on-savings/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/banks-rake-in-29-billion-profit-bonanza-as-rates-on-mortgages-outpace-rates-on-savings/
17:27 TR Bot; Banks rake in $29 billion profit bonanza as rates on mortgages outpace rates on savings - Michael West
17:28 TR News; The Usual Suspects: tax office dump lays bare Australias biggest tax dodgers - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/the-usual-suspects-tax-office-dump-lays-bare-australias-biggest-tax-dodgers/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/the-usual-suspects-tax-office-dump-lays-bare-australias-biggest-tax-dodgers/
17:28 TR Bot; The Usual Suspects: tax office dump lays bare Australia's biggest tax dodgers - Michael West
17:29 TR News; "I keep getting lost in the maze of Haskell's numeric types. Here's the map I drew to help myself out. I think there might have been something like this in the original Haskell 1998 report but I like this one better." https://blog.plover.com/2022/11/04#numbers
17:29 TR Bot; The Universe of Discourse : A map of Haskell's numeric types
17:30 TR News; Addenda to recent articles 202210 https://blog.plover.com/2022/11/08/
17:30 TR Bot; The Universe of Discourse : Addenda to recent articles 202210
17:31 TR News; "Now this may sound somewhat strange; as the twitterverse is blowing up about $8/month for a blue checkmark I would argue that the $8 is better spent supporting open source projects. As developers, security people, and users we rely on a lot of free time and effort from open source contributors." https://arjenwiersma.nl/posts/20221106-should-we-pay-oss/index.html
17:31 TR Bot; Should we pay for Open Source Software?
17:32 TR News; "Customs-built PCs require some degree of maintenance (at the very least you have to get them working) and are prone to some subtle issues (e.g. the RAM not playing well with the MB, some drivers being a mess, etc). So, why bother with all of this in 2022?" https://batsov.com/articles/2022/10/30/why-bother-with-a-custom-desktop-pc-in-2022/
17:32 TR Bot; Why Bother with a Custom Desktop PC in 2022? - (think)
17:33 TR News; "The cooler had a cool AMD logo and RGBs - I totally loved it early on. But it was also a pretty noisy cooler and as time passed I grew progressively more and more frustrated with it." https://batsov.com/articles/2022/10/30/lessons-learned-from-a-hardware-upgrade-gone-wrong/
17:33 TR Bot; Lessons Learned from a Hardware Upgrade Gone Wrong - (think)
17:34 TR News; "A collection of some thoughts on the FTX meltdown over the last few days." https://matt-rickard.com/on-ftx
17:34 TR Bot; On FTX
17:36 TR News; Total lunacy. Microsoft not only uses this to ROB Free software developers (GPL violations, money etc.) but it's also racist, not globalist https://carlosbecker.com/posts/github-universe-2022/ see http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/github-is-racism/
17:36 TR Bot; Expanding git hub sponsors globally git hub universe | Carlos Becker
17:36 TR Bot; GitHub is Racism | Techrights
17:39 TR News; "Often it found worse ways, heading down dead ends that traditional finance tried decades ago, with hilarious results." https://blog.dshr.org/2022/11/matt-levines-crypto-story-part-1.html
17:39 TR Bot; DSHR's Blog: Matt Levine's "The Crypto Story": Part 1
17:39 TR News; "If security experts can't safely keep cryptocurrencies on an Internet-connected computer, nobody can. If Bitcoin is the "Internet of money," what does it say that it cannot be safely stored on an Internet connected computer?" https://blog.dshr.org/2022/11/matt-levines-crypto-story-part-2.html
17:39 TR Bot; DSHR's Blog: Matt Levine's "The Crypto Story": Part 2
17:40 TR News; Apple struggling to make sales as demand for 'i' thing plunged https://retailwire.com/discussion/will-apple-find-more-room-to-grow-inside-of-target/
17:40 TR Bot; Apple find more room to grow inside of Target? - RetailWire
17:41 TR News; Go's sync.Pool has (undocumented) 'thread' locality https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/GoSyncPoolThreadLocality
17:41 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/programming/GoSyncPoolThreadLocality
17:42 TR News; "If people will only use their organization's Fediverse instance for 'official communication', then that's one thing; it's useful in some circumstances (for example, an official Canadian Parliament instance) but not generally." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/FediverseWhoRunsInstances
17:42 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/FediverseWhoRunsInstances
17:42 TR News; "Breyers group had requested a separate vote on the identification requirement, but this was rejected by the parliamentary majority." https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/cybersecurity-eu-bans-anonymous-internet-sites/
17:42 TR Bot; Cybersecurity: EU bans anonymous Internet sites Patrick Breyer
17:45 TR News; Xess 2: CSS variable edition https://xeiaso.net/blog/xess-css-variables
17:45 TR Bot; Xess 2: CSS variable edition - Xe
17:47 TR News; "The schism between the lifters and leaners in corporate Australia has deepened. BHP, Rio and the banks are tipping in massive tax while tax paid by fossil fuel giants remains paltry, abjectly failing to merit a social licence to operate in Australia." https://michaelwest.com.au/lifters-and-leaners-energy-giants-and-rupert-bludging-on-tax-again-big-banks-and-miners-pay-their-dues/
17:47 TR Bot; Lifters and leaners: energy giants and Rupert bludging on tax again, big banks and miners pay their dues - Michael West
17:48 TR News; Github is Microsoft's OPPOSITE of Sustainability. It's way to rip off developers while helping people violate the LICENCE! https://carlosbecker.com/posts/sustainability-oss-github-charm/ http://techrights.org/2022/10/28/osi-for-plagiarism/
17:48 TR Bot; Sustainability in open source github and charm | Carlos Becker
17:48 TR Bot; OSI for Plagiarism/GPL Violations (Under the Guise of Hey Hi) Brought to You by Microsoft | Techrights
17:50 TR News; Listening devices are NOT a business model; it's IMPERIAL ESPIONAGE for useful idiots who install informants inside the home etc. https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2022/11/cutting-back-on-alexa-ai.html
17:50 TR Bot; The Eponymous Pickle: Cutting Back on Alexa AI?
17:52 TR News; Manchester Police now looking for VOLUNTEERS to do routine work for zero pay DESPITE being subsidised by taxpayers. This is wage theft.
17:54 TR News; Golang Workspaces https://earthly.dev/blog/go-workspaces/
17:54 TR Bot; Golang Workspaces - Earthly Blog
17:55 TR News; "This leaves the "investors" in FTX facing an indefinite but long wait to get any money back, if they ever do, because as Adam Levitin takes 77 pages to point out, the legal status of their "investments" in bankruptcy is obscure." https://blog.dshr.org/2022/11/no-actual-people-were-harmed-in-making.html
17:55 TR Bot; DSHR's Blog: No Actual People Were Harmed In The Making Of This Market
17:57 TR News; "The whole health supply chain is monopolized, except for the patients at one end (paying higher prices for worse care) and the health care workers at the other end (getting paid less to work under worse conditions). The giants that run the industry may fight one another over how to divide the pie, but they all agree that we should get crumbs." https://pluralistic.net/2022/11/07/random-penguins/
17:57 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 07 Nov 2022 The good news is that Penguin Random House cant buy all the other publishers Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
17:57 TR News; Expect to hear and to read more stories about people who quit Twitter; social control media is going out of fashion http://techrights.org/2022/11/13/the-twitter-exodus/
17:58 TR Bot; The Twitter Exodus | Techrights
17:59 TR News; ewaste galore https://www.nanalyze.com/2022/10/ses-imagotag-stock-retail-iot/
17:59 TR Bot; Stock is a Pure Play on Retail IoT - Nanalyze
6 PM, November 13
18:00 TR News; VR is very old. Are universities turned into marketing props of Zuckerberg? https://www.lsu.edu/mediacenter/news/2022/11/virtualreality_safety_metaverse_cybersecurity_hacks.php
18:00 TR Bot; Hacking the Metaverse
18:00 TR News; The Quantum Hype Bubble Is About To Burst - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CBLVtCYHVO8 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/CBLVtCYHVO8
18:00 TR Bot; The Quantum Hype Bubble Is About To Burst - Invidious
18:01 TR News; Amazon does not "create jobs" but steals jobs and then hands them over to non-jobs https://cacm.acm.org/news/266524-amazon-launches-warehouse-robot-that-can-do-human-jobs/fulltext
18:01 TR Bot; Amazon Launches Warehouse Robot That Can Do Human Jobs | News | Communications of the ACM
18:03 TR News; Why is this being outsourced to a GULAG? Also, why does the body say "HEY HI" when the headline correctly says "algorithm"? Is this journalism? https://www.wired.com/story/hurricane-ian-destroyed-homes-google-algorithms-sent-money/
18:03 TR Bot; Ian Destroyed Their Homes. Algorithms Sent Them Money | WIRED
18:04 TR News; Is hype replacing hype? The question is so utterly dumb. Says a lot about society. https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2022/11/metaverse-replacing-smartphones.html
18:04 TR Bot; The Eponymous Pickle: Metaverse Replacing Smartphones?
18:06 TR News; Society and advanced society is not likely to last that long; transitioning to paper form would work better. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20221007-how-to-store-data-for-1000-years
18:06 TR Bot; to store data for 1,000 years - BBC Future
18:07 TR News; Hyping up "Crypto"; make keys longer, be done with it; it's not like encryption that works isn't possible https://cacm.acm.org/news/266446-can-we-secure-cryptography-against-quantum-attacks/fulltext
18:07 TR Bot; Can We Secure Cryptography Against Quantum Attacks? | News | Communications of the ACM
18:08 TR News; americanbanker promoting the scam that is "confidential computing" -- outsource to companies that work for the NSA and pray that they actually do what they promise you (they won't). Fake security, deceit, and espionage. https://www.americanbanker.com/news/microsoft-google-ibm-pitch-banks-on-confidential-computing
18:08 TR Bot; Microsoft, Google, IBM pitch banks on confidential computing | American Banker
18:10 TR News; Banks used to have their own servers. Now they tell us that even medical data should be given to companies that spy -- companies from abroad. Lies like "confidential computing" help them lull critics. Technology is rapidly becoming more harmful and oppressive. Who's promoted and rewarded? Liars and psychopaths.
18:11 TR News; Of course the frauds from Linux Foundation (the Zemlins are frauds) help promote the lies that is "confidential computing". They're essentially paid to lie and to leverage the "Linux" brand to make some lies stick to the wall.
18:12 TR News; Exploring a 1 MW FM Radio Tower with my Dad https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/exploring-1-mw-fm-radio-tower-my-dad
18:12 TR Bot; Exploring a 1 MW FM Radio Tower with my Dad | Jeff Geerling
18:13 TR News; "Mastodon, Pleroma, GNU Social, and Pixelfed are some of these different social networks all connected to each other using the protocol they are built upon." https://alirezahayati.com/2022/11/09/how-does-fediverse-work/
18:13 TR Bot; How does Fediverse work? - Ali Reza Hayati
18:14 TR News; "By default, browsers make requests via HTTP methods (GET, POST). If a server responds with HTML, the browser knows how to render a UI from that response." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/browsers-json-formdata/
18:14 TR Bot; Browsers, JSON, and FormData - Jim Nielsens Blog
18:15 TR News; "My generation has unfair advantages over previous ones. I grew up in a world that went through rapid digitizationthe first to have access to unlimited (and free) information" https://matt-rickard.com/unfair-advantages
18:15 TR Bot; Generational Advantages
18:16 TR News; "This, too, will be standardized. Instead of platform teams building a thin veneer of functionality over cloud, developers will use cloud directly (or a few companies that successfully solve the developer experience over it)." https://matt-rickard.com/what-happens-to-infra-engineers
18:16 TR Bot; What Happens to Infra Engineers?
18:16 TR News; "Its why movie theaters offer a Large popcorn thats marginally more expensive than a medium it would be a no-brainer to upgrade. Or a large coffee thats only $0.10 more than a medium." https://matt-rickard.com/decoy-effect
18:16 TR Bot; Decoy Effect
18:17 TR News; "I run my e-bookstore on Woocommerce, which is built on WordPress, which is built on PHP." https://mwl.io/archives/22357
18:17 TR Bot; upgrading PHP 7.4 to PHP 8 on FreeBSD Michael W Lucas
18:18 TR News; "Anyway, eight years ago today my first novel came out. Immortal Clay is a critical success and a financial sinkhole. Seems that some parts of it were a bit much for people." https://mwl.io/archives/22377
18:18 TR Bot; Eight years ago today, my first novel Michael W Lucas
18:19 TR News; "Be patient with the volunteers. Theyre doing the best they can. Well catch up as soon as we can" https://mwl.io/archives/22381
18:19 TR Bot; Why Mastodon/the Fediverse kind of sucks right now Michael W Lucas
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:21 TR News; npm is terrible to have for dependencies https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/npm-dependency-queries/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/28/microsoft-github-expose-part-xviii-the-story-of-npm/
18:21 TR Bot; npm Dependency Queries and the Cross-Pollination of Ideas - Jim Nielsens Blog
18:21 TR Bot; Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XVIII The Story of NPM | Techrights
18:24 TR News; Bogus badges and vanity NFTs? https://blog.nviso.eu/2022/11/09/nviso-excels-in-mitre-attck-managed-services-evaluation/
18:24 TR Bot; NVISO EXCELS IN MITRE ATT&CK MANAGED SERVICES EVALUATION NVISO Labs
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18:29 TR News; Turn of events. 90+3. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9eqnIejYQzw
18:29 TR Bot; Alejandro Garnacho goal vs Fulham 2-1 Last Minute [90+3] Goal Winner - Invidious
18:30 starstreak; bazinga
18:32 TR News; "So, lets build a container runtime using only the chroot system call. Doing so, we can learn a little about chroot, a little about container runtimes, and it will also be fun!" https://earthly.dev/blog/chroot/
18:32 TR Bot; Containers are chroot with a Marketing Budget - Earthly Blog
18:32 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: 0/
18:32 TR News; "I suspect that not updating modification time isn't considered part of the swapfile 'API', to such an extent as there is one, so this might change in the future." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/SwapfilesDontUpdateMtime
18:32 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/SwapfilesDontUpdateMtime
18:32 starstreak; hello schestowitz[TR] :D
18:33 TR News; Information Barbell <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="Matt Rickard" href="https://matt-rickard.com/information-barbell-2">Read on</a>
18:33 TR Bot; Information Barbell
18:33 TR News; "Hyper-recent information is usually immediately relevant figuring out a new trend, understanding a new development, or arbitraging the information asymmetry in another way. So who better to learn from than the people actually doing the thing?" https://matt-rickard.com/information-barbell-2
18:34 starstreak; im taking my crazy pills
18:37 TR News; "Shit is about to get crazy. Were about to see an explosion of tech startups that are using transformers and other AI tech to automate human work. Its going to feel like a tech boom, and it will be, but itll be a tech boom based on doing thousands of knowledge work tasks as goodand then betterthan humans." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/ai-art-just-opened-the-threat-to-human-work-we-were-expecting-from-agi/
18:37 TR Bot; AI Art Just Opened The Threat to Human Work We Were Expecting from AGI - Daniel Miessler
18:37 TR News; "If someday we give a NVMe based server a big swap file (because NVMe is so fast, it might not be as dangerous), we might need (or at least want) to care about this. I suspect that I should investigate how to make Amanda automatically exclude these files." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/SwapfileAndBackupsIssue
18:37 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/SwapfileAndBackupsIssue
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18:58 TR News; Linux Around The World: USA - West Virginia - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-usa-west-virginia/ Source: Linux Links | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxlinks.com/linux-usa-west-virginia/
18:58 TR Bot; Around The World: USA - West Virginia - LinuxLinks
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 9.16 k/sec., IPFS upstream 104.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 71.01
18:59 TR News; Perl performance evolution over the last decade | Dimitrios Kechagias [blogs.perl.org] http://blogs.perl.org/users/dimitrios_kechagias/2022/11/perl-performance-evolution-over-the-last-decade.html Source: Perl
18:59 TR Bot; performance evolution over the last decade | Dimitrios Kechagias [blogs.perl.org]
7 PM, November 13
19:04 TR News; Wild Turkeys Spotted Near Lumbridge, Holiday Event Confirmed? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=efA48sQcM9Y | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/efA48sQcM9Y
19:04 TR Bot; Wild Turkeys Spotted Near Lumbridge, Holiday Event Confirmed? - Invidious
19:05 TR News; Signal Is Losing Its Way - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9PD65FEjPAw | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/9PD65FEjPAw
19:05 TR Bot; Signal Is Losing It's Way - Invidious
19:05 TR News; (NEW): Podman Desktop: A GUI That Makes Container Management Easy http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Podman_Desktop_A_GUI_That_Makes_Container_Management_Easy.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Podman_Desktop_A_GUI_That_Makes_Container_Management_Easy.gmi
19:05 TR Bot; Tux Machines Podman Desktop: A GUI That Makes Container Management Easy
19:08 TR News; "Feels like since forever have I been using unattended-upgrades package to automate the Security upgrades on my various Debian Stable based machines." https://prezu.ca/post/unattended-upgrades-debian/
19:08 TR Bot; Unattended Upgrades Debian - Patryk's blog
19:14 starstreak; https://pkteerium.xyz/notice/APTLeMn8JrrxSR7IlU
19:14 TR Bot; NO TITLE
19:15 TR News; In Memoriam: Unus Annus gemini://basil-mori.cities.yesterweb.org/blog/2022-11-13_unus-annus-memoriam.gmi
19:16 starstreak; pkteerium.xyz is a cool mastadon instance
19:16 starstreak; its a class C
19:16 TR News; "These Five Poems In English are generated from my app "Cybernetic Poet" written in FreeBASIC based of a database of old poems of mine..." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1197
19:17 TR News; Another Smol Journal: Forty years a programmer gemini://54.203.8.106/forty.years.programming.gmi
19:18 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
19:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
19:18 starstreak; https://twitter.com/cjdelisle/status/1589599891072114694
19:18 TR Bot; Some tips for people joining #Mastodon 1. I've been on Mastodon / The Fediverse since 2017, I these days I run my https://t.co/kmgFLM79SW
19:18 TR Bot; Some tips for people joining #Mastodon 1. I've been on Mastodon / The Fediverse since 2017, I these days I run my https://t.co/kmgFLM79SW
19:18 TR News; (NEW): #HowTo Create a Custom Ubuntu ISO With Cubic http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/How_to_Create_a_Custom_Ubuntu_ISO_With_Cubic.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/How_to_Create_a_Custom_Ubuntu_ISO_With_Cubic.gmi
19:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines How to Create a Custom Ubuntu ISO With Cubic
19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
19:20 spazz; it's pleroma with soapbox though
19:21 TR News; https://fossweekly.beehiiv.com/p/foss-weekly-24-steamos-3-4-oss-funding-by-fastly-github-net-7-0-rhel-8-7-more
19:21 TR Bot; FOSS Weekly #24 - SteamOS 3.4, OSS funding by Fastly & GitHub, .NET 7.0, RHEL 8.7 & more | FOSS Weekly
19:22 TR News; Erik Inkinen (@erikinkinen): "Xfce4 running on simple framebuffer on the beginnings of mainline-mt6763. The device is a Volla phone to be exact."|nitter.it https://nitter.eu/erikinkinen/status/1591703347652104194/photo/1 Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//nitter.eu/erikinkinen/status/1591703347652104194/photo/1
19:22 TR Bot; Inkinen (@erikinkinen): "Xfce4 running on simple framebuffer on the beginnings of mainline-mt6763. The device is a Volla phone to be exact."|nitter.it
19:25 TR News; HE IS RIGHT: "Dan ODowd says Teslas Full Self Driving software shouldnt be on the road. Hell keep running over test dummies until someone listens." Must is a TOTAL FRAUD, so he sells this LIE. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/11/13/dan-odowd-challenges-tesla-musk/
19:25 TR Bot; Dan O'Dowd is the rich tech CEO spending millions to stop Elon Musk - The Washington Post
19:26 TR News; It's a miracle (or bribery) that some officials allowed "self-driving" cars on ANY road
19:26 TR News; It's a miracle (or bribery) that some officials allowed "self-driving" cars on ANY road
19:26 TR News; Tesla is going down the drain like Twitter
19:27 schestowitz[TR]; today, for the second time, I saw a tesla car
19:27 schestowitz[TR]; 2 times in a decade
19:27 schestowitz[TR]; they won't be able to keep them on the road
19:27 schestowitz[TR]; no servicing when the company goes under
19:28 TR News; "They conducted a lab study where 37 programmers were instructed to comprehend code solutions to Leetcode-like problems and then asked the output given a specific input. The programmers did so while wearing an EEG cap and in front of an eye tracker." https://austinhenley.com/blog/experienceversusskill.html
19:28 TR Bot; Does experience make you a better programmer? - Austin Z. Henley
19:29 TR News; Typical PHP issues: "Ive been trying to update the website to PHP 8.1, but the WordPress Theme Ive been using is from 2016 and has not been updated." https://dan.langille.org/2022/10/31/odd-look-to-the-website/
19:29 TR Bot; Odd look to the website Dan Langille's Other Diary
19:29 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uax6j9r5apawe.irc) has joined #techrights
19:30 TR News; "Modern" software: your stuff is TOO OLD!! It's the age of a toddler already. Here, have ANOTHER baby!
19:32 TR News; "I mostly programmed in Go the last few years. So every time I wanted an embedded key-value database, I reached for Cockroach's Pebble." http://notes.eatonphil.com/zigrocks.html
19:32 TR Bot; minimal RocksDB example with Zig | notes.eatonphil.com
19:32 psydruid; > [notice] How to store data for 1,000 years - BBC Future
19:32 psydruid; Arctic Vault courtesy of Bill Gator
19:32 TR News; "Longtermism has its roots in the effective altruism movement" http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/10/what-do-longtermists-want.html
19:32 TR Bot; Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: What Do Longtermists Want?
19:32 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft: we will be around in 1000 years
19:32 schestowitz[TR]; pinky promise
19:33 schestowitz[TR]; also, github ceo is nat friedman
19:33 schestowitz[TR]; the advisor to the ftx vault
19:33 schestowitz[TR]; it didn't last even a few years ^_^
19:33 schestowitz[TR]; your money is... MIA
19:34 psydruid; they successfully replaced the banking system with a Singularity
19:34 TR News; Were going to use ENF matching to answer the question heres a recording, when was it was (probably) taken? https://robertheaton.com/enf/
19:34 TR Bot; How to date a recording using background electrical noise | Robert Heaton
19:34 schestowitz[TR]; financially financial certainty
19:34 schestowitz[TR]; it is a certainty your "coins" will be 'deflated' into zero
19:37 starstreak; attack surface btw
19:37 TR News; "Today Ive noticed that Ive written 36 articles to date here, which beats my annual record of 34 articles from 2011. I definitely didnt see this coming, especially given how tough the year has been on me on multiple levels." https://batsov.com/articles/2022/11/01/an-unexpected-blogging-record/
19:37 TR Bot; An Unexpected Blogging Record - (think)
19:38 spazz; starstreak that's a good thread thanks
19:38 psydruid; > [notice] Can Disney marry streaming and shopping? - RetailWire
19:38 psydruid; Find out in their latest movie
19:38 TR News; articles matter for a decade. blog posts matter for years. newsgroups matter for months or more and tweets matter only for minutes (then they vanish because... "ENGAGEMENT" and "ALGORITHM)
19:39 psydruid; > [notice] Mold 1.7 Released But May Need To Change Software License If Funding Not Secured - Phoronix
19:39 psydruid; You're going to be f**ked
19:40 TR News; "You do tend to get a feel for it over time, but the other thing Id mention is that the technique used in incident analysisreading, labeling and tagging data many times overis something called Qualitative Coding Analysis." https://ferd.ca/the-demanding-work-of-analyzing-incidents.html
19:40 TR Bot; The Demanding Work of Analyzing Incidents
19:40 starstreak; spazz, i recommend pkteerium but you can follow me here: https://pkteerium.xyz/@reptoidz
19:40 TR Bot; NO TITLE
19:40 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: for relying on it
19:40 schestowitz[TR]; phoronix keeps shilling mold
19:40 schestowitz[TR]; most people don't give a shit
19:40 schestowitz[TR]; and use gnu
19:40 schestowitz[TR]; not github
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19:40 starstreak; spazz, i guess i would be @reptoidz@pkteerium.xyz
19:42 TR News; Perrottet backflip another boon for pokies in Rum Rebellion reprise - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/perrottet-backflip-boon-for-clubsnsw-pokies-lobby/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/perrottet-backflip-boon-for-clubsnsw-pokies-lobby/
19:42 TR Bot; Perrottet backflip another boon for pokies in Rum Rebellion reprise - Michael West
19:42 TR News; Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Science News Nov 2 http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/11/science-news-nov-2.html Source: Sabine Hossenfelder | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/11/science-news-nov-2.html
19:42 TR Bot; Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Science News Nov 2
19:43 TR News; Children, go where we send you - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/children-go-where-we-send-you/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/children-go-where-we-send-you/
19:43 TR Bot; Children, go where we send you - Michael West
19:44 TR News; "For now: RC, and the goals I have while I'm here. Instead of focusing on what I did this week, I'm going to use this post to talk about how I want to improve as a programmer." https://ntietz.com/blog/rc-week-7-recap/
19:44 TR Bot; RC Week 7: Four habits to improve as a programmer | nicholas@web
19:45 TR News; Paper review: C-store | nicholas@web https://ntietz.com/blog/review-cstore/ Source: Nicholas Tietz-Sokolsky | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ntietz.com/blog/review-cstore/
19:45 TR Bot; Paper review: C-store | nicholas@web
19:46 TR News; "Taxpayers didnt rate a mention at the Flying Kangaroos AGM on Friday. But as the excuses for poor performance pile up, the airline is planning to play on our patriotism and better judgment in its push to thwart competitors, writes Michael Sainsbury." https://michaelwest.com.au/joyce-wont-stop-jesting-but-can-albo-and-the-public-avoid-being-dacksed-again/
19:46 TR Bot; Joyce won't stop jesting, but can Albo and the public avoid being dacksed again? - Michael West
19:46 starstreak; Best OS Poll on the Fediverse: https://pkteerium.xyz/notice/APZSxg7sWUvPYJjes4
19:46 TR Bot; NO TITLE
19:47 TR News; "On a large screen, this image would be just fine, but for users with small screen devices, a 1200px wide image means theyll have to to download a larger image than they need. That could take longer to download and it could cost them money on their data plan." https://austingil.com/better-html-images/
19:47 TR Bot; 6 Steps to Improve HTML Images For Users & Developers
19:47 TR News; Stacey Higginbotham hyping up more surveillance https://staceyoniot.com/when-your-favorite-devices-will-get-matter/
19:47 TR Bot; When your favorite devices will get Matter - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
19:48 TR News; "Even though being a ports or package maintainer is voluntary, it carries a heavy responsibility." https://unixsheikh.com/articles/the-heavy-responsibility-of-the-package-maintainer.html
19:48 TR Bot; The heavy responsibility of the package maintainer
19:49 spazz; i don't see many posts on your timeline
19:49 TR News; "Look, this is basically the same as The Martian. And, you know what? I don't care. It is excellent. It made a 6 hour plane ride whizz by." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/11/book-review-project-hail-mary-andy-weir/
19:49 TR Bot; Book Review: Project Hail Mary Andy Weir Terence Edens Blog
19:50 spazz; are you testing a troll account?
19:50 TR News; Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Quantum Winter Is Coming http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/11/quantum-winter-is-coming.html Source: Sabine Hossenfelder | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/11/quantum-winter-is-coming.html
19:50 TR Bot; Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Quantum Winter Is Coming
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19:51 TR News; "Im occasionally asked whether NSD can be used to serve a DNSSEC-signed zone (the answer is yes), but NSD isnt a signer: it requires other utilities to actually sign zones which it can then serve. Ive occasionally mentioned ldns, specifically when I wrote about using a SmartCard-HSM for DNSSEC and again when I wrote about DNSSEC signing with an offline KSK." https://jpmens.net/2022/11/06/dnssec-with-nlnetlabs-ldns-and-
19:51 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://jpmens.net/2022/11/06/dnssec-with-nlnetlabs-ldns-and- )
19:51 TR News; "I could certainly dupe it and play from a burned copy, and that's what I did, but I ought to be able to install the game and not need the disc at all. As always copy protection only inconveniences legal owners and never deters the pirates." https://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2022/11/running-pinball-game-from-disk-image.html
19:51 TR Bot; Old Vintage Computing Research: Running a pinball game from a disk image doesn't make me a pirate
19:53 TR News; "Good libraries are the ones you dont have to think too much about them, and they just work." https://blog.fredrb.com/2022/11/06/testify-code-generation/
19:53 TR Bot; A case for Go code generation: testify | Fredrb's Blog
19:54 TR News; Is Open Graph Protocol dead? https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/11/is-open-graph-protocol-dead/
19:54 TR Bot; Is Open Graph Protocol dead? Terence Edens Blog
19:56 TR News; Microrsoft is the OPPOSITE of security https://blog.nviso.eu/2022/11/09/visualizing-misp-threat-intelligence-in-power-bi-an-nviso-ti-tutorial/
19:56 TR Bot; Visualizing MISP Threat Intelligence in Power BI An NVISO TI Tutorial NVISO Labs
19:57 TR News; "While its possible to buy a Chromebook from the store to run Chrome OS, you can also install Chrome OS Flex on your existing laptop or desktop. Chrome OS Flex is an x86 port of Chrome OS developed by Google. Heres how to get it working on your system." https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/how-to-run-chrome-os-on-any-laptop/
19:57 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/how-to-run-chrome-os-on-any-laptop/ )
19:59 TR News; Slackware Window Manager Tweaks - Dbus and Polkit - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MDYn7VI9OIA | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/MDYn7VI9OIA
19:59 TR Bot; Slackware Window Manager Tweaks - Dbus and Polkit - Invidious
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20:06 TR News; (NEW): Best Steam Deck Games Released in the Past Week - 2022-11-13 Edition http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Best_Steam_Deck_Games_Released_in_the_Past_Week_2022_11_13_Edit.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Best_Steam_Deck_Games_Released_in_the_Past_Week_2022_11_13_Edit.gmi
20:06 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best Steam Deck Games Released in the Past Week - 2022-11-13 Edition
20:07 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Security_Leftovers.gmi
20:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
20:07 TR News; (NEW): Slackware Window Manager Tweaks - Dbus and Polkit http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Slackware_Window_Manager_Tweaks_Dbus_and_Polkit.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Slackware_Window_Manager_Tweaks_Dbus_and_Polkit.gmi
20:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines Slackware Window Manager Tweaks - Dbus and Polkit
20:11 TR News; "I just sent the poster for this years Society for Neuroscience meeting to the printer. As our graduate student is preparing his defense and our postdoc did not get a visa (no thanks, US!)" http://bjoern.brembs.net/2022/11/interacting-learning-systems-at-sfn22/
20:12 TR Bot; bjoern.brembs.blog Interacting learning systems at SfN22
20:12 TR News; (NEW): GNU/Linux: Chrome OS, Xfce on a GNU/Linux Phone, FOSS Weekly, and West Virginia http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/GNU_Linux_Chrome_OS_Xfce_on_a_GNU_Linux_Phone_FOSS_Weekly_and_W.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/GNU_Linux_Chrome_OS_Xfce_on_a_GNU_Linux_Phone_FOSS_Weekly_and_W.gmi
20:12 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNU/Linux: Chrome OS, Xfce on a GNU/Linux Phone, FOSS Weekly, and West Virginia
20:12 TR News; "For quite some time, many people asked for a riscv64 porterbox." https://blog.aurel32.net/riscv64-porterbox.html
20:12 TR Bot; Aurlien Jarno - riscv64 porterbox
20:13 TR News; Surveillance: "A large American automaker published a press release discussing a proposed new mobile app designed to make roads safer." https://rubenerd.com/an-app-to-not-be-run-over/
20:13 TR Bot; An app to not be run over
20:14 TR News; "comes amidst mounting concerns police in states with abortion bans will use Google data to target and prosecute people seeking abortion" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/22/google_workers_demand_protection_abortion_data
20:14 TR Bot; Google Workers Demand Privacy for Abortion Searches & Want to Stop Ads for Anti-Abortion Clinics | Democracy Now!
20:14 TR News; "An opportunity for the broader Ubuntu community to learn and speak about the amazing work and success stories happening in the ecosystem." https://www.paulox.net/2022/11/09/ubuntu-summit-2022/
20:15 TR Bot; Paolo Melchiorre - Ubuntu Summit2022
20:15 TR News; "That means that to SSH into a machine, the user needs both their private SSH key and the certificate. The certificate should also match their user (principal) and be used within the time frame in which it is valid." https://carlosbecker.com/posts/ssh-certificates/
20:15 TR Bot; Issuing and using SSH certificates | Carlos Becker
20:17 TR News; No, Sigstore is a step towards software tyranny https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/11/08/sigstore-code-signing-verification-software-supply-chain/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/lf-openwashing-front-group/
20:17 TR Bot; We sign code now | Trail of Bits Blog
20:17 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Europe a Front Group for Patent Trolls and American Monopolies | Techrights
20:17 TR News; "In the US, all code is by default protected by copyright, both as the source code and in compiled form" https://ntietz.com/blog/my-evolution-open-source-licenses/
20:17 TR Bot; Open source licenses as a reflection of values | nicholas@web
20:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I've gained more Mastodon followers in the past day than in four years.
20:18 DaemonFC; There's actually a lot of people on it now.
20:18 TR News; "This is important because you generally want to have an idea of your performance goals up-front" https://www.b-list.org/weblog/2022/nov/08/python-311-gotcha/
20:18 TR Bot; A Python 3.11 "gotcha"
20:19 DaemonFC; No toxic SJWs though. He's still on the Musk Train.
20:19 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: doesn't matter much
20:19 DaemonFC; Conde Nasty dungeon of child porn SJW hat.
20:19 schestowitz[TR]; i gained followers and lost them all
20:19 schestowitz[TR]; thousands
20:19 schestowitz[TR]; when the instance gone you can lose everything
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:20 DaemonFC; It's very entertaining watching him freak out that "transphobes" may have a good idea about some feature for open source software and "shouldn't be listened to.
20:20 schestowitz[TR]; "followers" and "likes" are NOT currencies
20:20 schestowitz[TR]; they are like "crypto" "coins"
20:20 schestowitz[TR]; temporal, worthless ego trip
20:20 schestowitz[TR]; "I AM BITCOIN BILLIONAIRE!!!!'\
20:21 DaemonFC; I suppose that includes the time I noticed how badly XFS performed when you were deleting a folder of small files, and suggested to the maintainers delayed logging (batching up log updates and then pushing them to disk from a buffer).
20:21 DaemonFC; Not a programmer, but I noticed something it was doing badly and figured out roughly where the problem was and suggested a feature that would resolve it.
20:21 TR News; Half of American workers can't make ends meet - neritam https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/11/09/half-of-american-workers-cant-make-ends-meet/ Source: Neritam
20:21 TR Bot; Half of American workers cant make ends meet neritam
20:21 DaemonFC; Now that feature is actually on by default and you can't turn it off, iirc.
20:22 TR News; "Im an idiot. And git is hard. A lot of places use a rebase-based Git workflow, and Ive made git less hard with a set of handy aliases." https://chrishannah.me/idiot-proof-git/
20:22 TR Bot; Idiot Proof Git
20:22 DaemonFC; It turned out that it was as safe as all the actual file data in the write barrier.
20:23 DaemonFC; (Not actually safe so much as not more dangerous to do this at the same time....)
20:23 DaemonFC; It's odd that this wasn't the behavior all along.
20:23 DaemonFC; A real-time log update? Who thought that was a good idea?
20:24 DaemonFC; Delete a file. Touch the log. Delete file. Touch the log. Thousands of times. Every time, the log took up as much disk activity as the file operation.
20:24 DaemonFC; This was basically as stupid as Ext3's block allocation.
20:25 DaemonFC; So as long as you were only touching a few files or they were relatively big, you wouldn't notice it behaving the way it was.
20:26 DaemonFC; But when you deleted hundreds of small files, the disk would grind and the activity going to the terminal would show it happening one by one as it played out.
20:26 DaemonFC; I talked to Eric Sandeen about that and he said, "Yeah, it's been doing that forever and maybe we should look at this.".
20:27 DaemonFC; Red Hat is using XFS for relational databases now and I don't think the old behavior would have gotten along with this very well.
20:28 starstreak; linucks btw
20:30 starstreak; im watching the big bang theory and it saddens me that activelow would just throw his dvds in the trash because he claimed they would brainwash people
20:33 TR News; "I woke up today without back pain, so its a great day. Beautiful. At my age, I woke up today, so its a great day." https://rubenerd.com/waking-up-to-coffee-shop-chatter/
20:33 TR Bot; Waking up to coffee shop chatter
20:34 TR News; Fake valuations https://lunduke.substack.com/p/lundukes-normal-computing-news-nov-57b
20:34 TR Bot; Lunduke's Normal Computing News - Nov 9, 2022
20:35 TR News; Smoke alarms should not be connected. Keep is simple, functional, and energy-efficient https://staceyoniot.com/why-arent-there-any-matter-smoke-alarms/
20:35 TR Bot; Why aren't there any Matter smoke alarms? - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
20:37 TR News; "What if I could get beer using the Internet?!?!" https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/11/algorithm-induced-alcoholism/
20:37 TR Bot; Algorithm Induced Alcoholism Terence Edens Blog
20:37 TR News; "The BeOS was lightning fast and capable of effectively using the power of multiple CPUs (through something dubbed pervasive multi-threading) and, because of that, was astoundingly responsive and good at multimedia." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/haiku-week-begins-at-the-lunduke
20:37 TR Bot; Haiku Week begins at The Lunduke Journal - by Bryan Lunduke
20:39 TR News; A Perfect Slime: Scott Morrisons slippery Sports Rorts report just the fix for Bridget McKenzie - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/the-perfect-slime-scott-morrisons-slippery-sports-rorts-report-just-the-fix-for-bridget-mckenzie/ Source: Michael West Media
20:39 TR Bot; A Perfect Slime: Scott Morrison's slippery Sports Rorts report just the fix for Bridget McKenzie - Michael West
20:40 TR News; "Theyre in the money. Who? The Teal MPs who represent Australias wealthiest electorates, of course, writes Mark Sawyer." https://michaelwest.com.au/the-new-clean-transparent-teal-politics-you-still-gotta-bring-your-money/
20:40 TR Bot; The new clean, transparent Teal politics (you still gotta bring your money) - Michael West
20:43 TR News; "As everyone knows, Elon Musk is now running Twitter directly into the ground. Who knows? Maybe he needed some inspiration for the Boring Company." https://soatok.blog/2022/11/07/contemplating-the-future/
20:43 TR Bot; Contemplating the Future - Dhole Moments
20:43 TR News; "I did the following test: overnight, I let the fridge run for 12 hours. It contained an Aluminum can filled with water at room temperature (around 17 C)" https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/11/06/quickpost-testing-a-usb-fridge/
20:43 TR Bot; Quickpost: Testing A USB Fridge | Didier Stevens
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20:51 TR News; Links 13/11/2022: Ubuntu 23.04 Release Date and Mozilla Firefox 107 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/13/mozilla-firefox-107/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/13/mozilla-firefox-107/
20:51 TR Bot; Links 13/11/2022: Ubuntu 23.04 Release Date and Mozilla Firefox 107 | Techrights
20:51 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi
20:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 76.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 70.70
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21:07 AdmFubar; https://www.darkreading.com/iot/knock-knock-aiphone-bug-allows-cyberattackers-to-literally-open-physical-doors
21:07 TR Bot; Knock, Knock: Aiphone Bug Allows Cyberattackers to Literally Open (Physical) Doors
21:10 TR News; (NEW): Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Articles_of_Interest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/13/Articles_of_Interest.gmi
21:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines Articles of Interest
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; "Smart doors"
21:11 schestowitz[TR]; "knock know"
21:11 schestowitz[TR]; who's there?"
21:11 schestowitz[TR]; "it's me, dad"
21:12 TR News; "The AUR is one of the biggest selling points of arch linux but could it be possible to have an Arch User Repository linux system for every linux distro, well maybe and the Linux User Repository is trying to do that" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T05fpM_ewkI
21:12 TR Bot; Linux User Repository: An AUR For Every Distro - Invidious
21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:22 TR News; introduction to uxn programming book gemini://compudanzas.net/introduction_to_uxn_programming_book.gmi
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21:48 DaemonFC; @BaronHK
21:48 DaemonFC; What is very encouraging, such that it is, is that the US flu activity has gone crazy, and yet they still have not found even one person with B/Yamagata.
21:48 DaemonFC; That flu strain lineage is thought to have maybe been wiped out during the COVID disaster when everyone was at home or wearing face masks if they went anywhere, and most of the stuff was shut down.
21:48 DaemonFC; We might have actually, accidentally, wiped out a flu strain that was particularly dangerous to children.
21:48 DaemonFC; Yay us.....
10 PM, November 13
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
22:37 AdmFubar; https://soylentnews.org/meta/article.pl?sid=22/11/13/0157257&from=rss
22:37 TR Bot; End Of Maintenance Period - Day 1 - SoylentNews
22:50 AdmFubar; https://pluralistic.net/2022/11/11/foreseeable-consequences/
22:50 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 11 Nov 2022 Apples business model made Chinese oppression inevitable Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 9.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 94.90 average k/sec., average swarm size 64.90
11 PM, November 13
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23:13 AdmFubar; https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/indian-ios-users-can-get-verified-on-twitter-by-paying-more-than-8-but-wont-get-access-to-key-features-11610761.html
23:13 TR Bot; iOS users can get verified on Twitter by paying more than $8, but won't get access to key features- Technology News, Firstpost
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:26 *NoseCandy crushes some adderol, puts some of it on the end of a knife and snorts it
23:28 reptilian_thrills; /me tries doing that with a jolly rancher but its just really sticky
23:29 reptilian_thrills; i broke a hammer on a jolly rancher once
23:30 reptilian_thrills; they should make tanks out of them
23:30 reptilian_thrills; jolly rancher armour
23:31 reptilian_thrills; they dont hold up very well in wet weather
23:31 reptilian_thrills; you can try wrapping them in plastic, but then of course the plastic itself wont stop bullets
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23:44 reptilian_thrills;
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