IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, July 07, 2022
beginning of new day, July 7
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00:07 TR News; [Meme] The EPOs European Diversity | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/06/epo-european-diversity/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/06/epo-european-diversity/
00:07 TR Bot; [Meme] The EPOs European Diversity | Techrights
00:11 TR News; EPO president's proposal: I want to bribe you, will you accept my proposal to bribe you?
00:12 TR News; Videos: Accessibility, FreeCAD, and Matrix.org Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166934
00:12 TR Bot; Videos: Accessibility, FreeCAD, and Matrix.org | Tux Machines
00:12 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166935
00:12 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
00:14 TR News; I'm thinking of an infallible IQ test, and its name is "recyclable bin" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1060 "I remember when I first lived in a locale that recycled glass/paper/etc. It was the late 1980s."
00:15 TR News; An easier way to fail gemini://idiomdrottning.org/easier
00:17 TR News; Information on Gemini gemini://auragem.space/devlog/20220706_information.gmi "While I appreciate all of the blogs on Geminispace, I feel like we need more information and texts on Gemini."
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00:18 SomeH4x0r; hi
00:18 TR News; WTF??? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Systemd-Creator-Microsoft
00:18 TR Bot; Creator Lands At Microsoft - Phoronix
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; not april 1st
00:19 TR News; "Mixing EEE with Lennart Poettering?" https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1333032-systemd-creator-lands-at-microsoft
00:19 TR Bot; Creator Lands At Microsoft - Phoronix Forums
00:19 TR News; IBMs Lennart Poettering on Breaking Software for Pseudo Novelty http://techrights.org/2022/05/16/elce-pseudo-novelty/
00:19 TR Bot; IBMs Lennart Poettering on Breaking Software for Pseudo Novelty | Techrights
00:20 TR News; "As someone who has managed to create/implement three distinct technologies that have each reshaped the linux stack, this gives Microsoft a lot of power." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1333032-systemd-creator-lands-at-microsoft
00:20 bnchs; joined at the wrong time
00:20 bnchs; systemd x microsoft
00:20 TR News; "He didn't win over anyone but RedHat, Debian caved on SystemD not because it was better but because there was more inertia behind it. Ubuntu gave up on upstart because Debian gave up. SystemD won the init system wars much like Biden won the 2020 presidential primaries in the USA, everyone else just gave up." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1333032-systemd-creator-lands-at-microsoft
00:23 TR News; "Never been a better time to be transitioning all systems to OpenBSD and FreeBSD. Linux is not going in a good direction at all!" https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1333032-systemd-creator-lands-at-microsoft
00:25 matey; its easiest to understand ibm and microsoft if you think of them as the same company
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; yup
00:26 matey; the differences arent significant
00:26 TR News; Systemd Increasingly Looks Like an Attack on Linux (Land Grab and EEE) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/06/microsoft-land-grab-and-eee/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/06/microsoft-land-grab-and-eee/
00:26 TR Bot; Systemd Increasingly Looks Like an Attack on Linux (Land Grab and EEE) | Techrights
00:26 matey; the fact that theyre two different companies is barely significant
00:27 matey; there are parts of microsoft that have less in common than ibm and microsoft do
00:28 matey; the m in ibm stands for microsoft
00:28 matey; also master / main
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: if you set up an instance tonight, better make the OS one that's like alpine
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; no systemd
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; systemd = Microsoft
00:32 TR News; This small Space Invaders game runs on an Arduino Nano with a salvaged CRT display | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/06/this-small-space-invaders-game-runs-on-an-arduino-nano-with-a-salvaged-crt-display/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
00:32 TR Bot; This small Space Invaders game runs on an Arduino Nano with a salvaged CRT display | Arduino Blog
00:33 TR News; TenFourFox Development: Network Solutions screws the pooch again http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2022/07/network-solutions-screws-pooch-again.html Source: tenfourfox
00:33 TR Bot; TenFourFox Development: Network Solutions screws the pooch again
00:34 TR News; systemd: developed in Microsoft Proprietary Software Prison by MICROSOFT STAFF. Get this crap out of GNU/Linux. The sooner, the better.
00:35 TR News; Microsoft ALWAYS attacked Linux, ESPECIALLY when it said it "loved" it or did the collusion with Novell in 2006. It's a rapist's "love".
00:36 TR News; System76 Debuts Pricey Lemur Pro Linux Laptop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166918#comment-34266
00:36 TR Bot; System76s Lemur Pro Linux laptop now comes with Alder Lake-U | Tux Machines
00:38 matey; In a September 2014 ZDNet interview, prominent Linux kernel developer Theodore Ts'o expressed his opinion that the dispute over systemd's centralized design philosophy, more than technical concerns, indicates a dangerous general trend toward uniformizing the Linux ecosystem, alienating and marginalizing parts of the open-source community, and leaving little room for alternative projects.
00:38 TR News; With people inside and outside the Office still furious about the epic corruption of last Wednesday the Office (i.e. Antnio Campinos and his crime facilitators) publishes 7 puff pieces in 7 days in the EPOs Web site http://techrights.org/2022/07/06/a-distraction-per-day/
00:38 TR Bot; EPOs Distraction Du Jour | Techrights
00:38 matey; systemd's centralized design philosophy, more than technical concerns, indicates a dangerous general trend toward uniformizing the Linux ecosystem, alienating and marginalizing
00:38 TR News; Antnio Campinos has made corruption the new normal, rendering the EPO's Web site a propaganda machine of Team UPC and other illegal agenda; whats the legacy to be left (if any)? http://techrights.org/2022/07/06/epo-european-diversity/
00:38 TR Bot; [Meme] The EPOs European Diversity | Techrights
00:39 TR News; Not a joke. Just check the comments here (many of them; skip Michael Larabel sucking up to Microsoft). http://techrights.org/2022/07/06/microsoft-land-grab-and-eee/
00:39 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/2106301
00:39 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/wov93gubjn771.png created on 2021-06-30 01:21:02.774865
00:39 matey; /me has yet to find any news suggesting systemd is MORE microsoft than it was a few weeks ago
00:39 matey; did poettering just get snatched up by microsoft or something?
00:40 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166936
00:40 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
00:40 MinceR; yeah, i'm interested too
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; maybe it'll be like gentoo
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; or oracle's wim w.
00:40 matey; /me cant imagine what gentoo has to do with this
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; where he leaves months later
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; realising it was a mistake
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; either way, thew systemd-free distros will become more popular veery fast
00:41 matey; its never a mistake to leave ibm
00:41 matey; thew systemd-free distros will become more popular veery fast <- no they wont
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; its never a mistake to leave Micrisoft, tiehrr
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; *either
00:41 matey; no but joining microsoft is a common mistake
00:41 matey; as is using systemd distros
00:42 matey; they could bring hitler back to life, and if poettering worked directly for him
00:42 matey; people would still use systemd
00:42 TR News; I Now Have a TwTxt gemini://auragem.space/~krixano/20220706_twtxt.gmi "You can find a list of crawled twtxt files from AuraGem's Search Engine here..."
00:43 matey; i certainly dont think this nonsense will go on forever
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00:43 matey; i simply have a very different idea than you do of what it will take to stop it
00:43 MinceR; it would not be a mistake for poettering to go to MICROS~1
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; Windows is in a freefall
00:43 MinceR; they love shitty overcomplicated designs and shitty undocumented implementations there
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; IBM doesn't sem to want it to succeed
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; IBM just wants money
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; and control
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; the master of all
00:43 matey; same as it ever was
00:43 MinceR; i thought dehomag loved MICROS~1
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; look what they did to fedora and centos
00:43 DaemonFC; I don't know what's going on. I got out into the park and made it about a mile and sweat just started pouring out of me so badly that I barely made it back to my car.
00:43 MinceR; i can't see what they did
00:44 DaemonFC; Been like that all day, even in Walmart.
00:44 matey; i thought dehomag loved MICROS~ <- yes but its loves accompanied by munchausen by proxy
00:44 MinceR; deadrat's distros were fine, i guess, until the rot set in at deadrat, then they became positively vile
00:44 matey; "oh no, fedora is failing-- poor us!"
00:44 MinceR; and when dehomag bought them, nothing changed
00:44 DaemonFC; Maybe I can bring an icepack tomorrow and put it under my hat.
00:44 matey; "buy ibm, fedora is dying"
00:45 matey; d when dehomag bought them, nothing changed <- well, they swirled more quickly down the loo
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; they already made "hobby distros" harder
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; china and other nations worked on that
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; but they use only systemd distros
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; so in a sense they have "Microsoft Inside"
00:45 matey; its fine if your hobby is bending over for whatever lennart wants to put in there
00:45 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], It is nice here though, very relaxing. I'm considering just going back to the trail meant for old people that can see most of the park's good stuff anyway.
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; The NSA's back doors company
00:45 matey; (i mean in the distribution)
00:45 DaemonFC; Maybe I need to get in better shape but I've never ended up like that. Maybe a fever?
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: Lennart went working directly for The Criminals
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; (Microsoft)
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; in case you're just joining us
00:46 matey; /me still doesnt know what happened to microsoft recently
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; Pentagon pays Microsoft to swallow things
00:46 DaemonFC; Oh wow.
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; skype, shithub... and various people
00:46 matey; or systemd (other than lennart leaving ibm)
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; it's like Larry Ellison
00:46 matey; /me boots up his hype detection array
00:46 DaemonFC; So no more obfuscation of why he's been hard at work redesigning bits of "Linux" to work like Windows?
00:47 schestowitz[TR]; saying he can just buy anything that competes with him
00:47 DaemonFC; systemd and Pulseaudio are very Windows-like.
00:47 schestowitz[TR]; Mickos from mysql responded by saying you cannot kill "the dolphin" (myssql) by swallowing thew whole ocean
00:47 DaemonFC; They represent the Post-Vista stuff Microsoft was up to.
00:47 matey; you can certainly make the waters unfriendly to boat in
00:48 matey; all you need to do to kill dolphins is farm tuna
00:48 DaemonFC; "In 2017, Poettering received the Pwnie Award for Lamest Vendor Response to vulnerabilities reported in systemd.[23]"
00:48 DaemonFC; LOL
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; they infiltrated LF too
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, the reaction will be strong
00:48 matey; my guess is mickos isnt an environmentalist. which is fine, only it would have shown him the flaw in his argument
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; but the media will sidele with the criminals who buy ads
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. "Microsoft loves Linux"
00:48 matey; anyway, the reaction will be stron <- the reaction to whatever hes talking about
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; bbl
00:49 matey; the reaction will be strong <- heres why roy is wrong-- its this simple
00:49 matey; if the reacion WAS going to be strong
00:49 matey; it would have been already
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00:49 matey; now, there IS a threshold. and once thats crossed, its like he says
00:49 matey; its just that what can happen before that threshold is even found is unreal
00:49 matey; so roy may be right about this sort of upcoming "backlash" (i dont even know what TO yet)
00:50 matey; but 9 times out of 10 he wont be.
00:50 matey; im going with the odds here
00:50 matey; the odds are against him
00:50 DaemonFC; https://pwnies.com/systemd-bugs/
00:50 TR Bot; bugs Pwnies
00:50 DaemonFC; It seems Poettering's default setting is to excuse why he won't bother to fix known bugs or to attack people who report them.
00:51 matey; microsoft could say "yes actually satan is real, and he runs this company-- also hitler works for him"
00:51 DaemonFC; I guess the endgame is eventually nobody bothers since they won't be fixed and he'll abuse them and then there won't be any more bugs.
00:51 matey; and most people would be like: "whatever"
00:51 matey; its not that people are hopeless (it certainly looks that way)
00:51 matey; its just that hope takes a fuck of a lot more
00:52 matey; funnily enough, with ukraine at least, people are like "no, this is actually evil"
00:52 matey; with iraq though, they were predictably unimpressed
00:52 matey; for systemd, anyone that actually cares has already done something
00:52 matey; something at least
00:53 matey; its been at least a decade
00:53 matey; 7 years by own watch
00:53 matey; my
00:53 matey; ^ "systemd Dreams Up New Feature, Makes It Like Cron". Phoronix. 28 January 2013. Retrieved 22 January 2014.
00:54 DaemonFC; https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Lennart-Poettering-Out-Red-Hat
00:54 TR Bot; Poettering - systemd + PulseAudio Creator - Departed Red Hat - Phoronix
00:55 DaemonFC; Here's a bunch of crap that I don't work on anymore. Bye!
00:55 matey; youd think stallman would at least complain about the first line on the systemd website
00:55 matey; systemd is a suite of basic building blocks for a Linux system.
00:55 matey; a what?
00:55 matey; but hey
00:55 matey; thats good enough for gnu now
00:56 matey; website https://systemd.io/ (nothing here?)
00:56 TR Bot; System and Service Manager
00:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], So Microsoft is employing him to work on systemd now.
00:56 matey; mailing list https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
00:56 TR Bot; systemd-devel Info Page
00:56 DaemonFC; That's pretty horrific.
00:57 matey; nothing here https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2022-July/thread.html
00:57 TR Bot; The systemd-devel July 2022 Archive by thread
00:57 MinceR; lol
00:58 MinceR; well, at least MICROS~1 also gets to incriminate itself with cancerd
00:58 MinceR; not just with fucking up Linux
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1 AM, July 7
01:00 matey; <MinceR> well, at least MICROS~1 also gets to incriminate itself with cancerd <- didnt it already?
01:00 matey; searching for his blog by name plus "blog" doesnt even bring up the address anymore
01:00 MinceR; afaik their only role before was the inspiration for the design
01:00 matey; i know what it is, i can find it, i was hoping for it to be easier
01:00 matey; i found his twitter instead
01:00 MinceR; i think it's 0pointer.net
01:00 matey; and the nitter of his twitter
01:01 MinceR; ...the design and also their support for fucking up Linux in cancerd's image via the LDF
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01:01 matey; theres no blog there now
01:01 matey; at least not from the main page
01:02 MinceR; ic
01:02 matey; even looked up lennart pid eins
01:02 matey; name of his blog
01:02 MinceR; did he get cancelled?
01:02 matey; no it doesnt work that way
01:02 matey; evil people rarely do
01:02 matey; he would have to rape someone
01:02 matey; cosby: cancelled. weinstein: cancelled
01:03 matey; theyre probably guilty of rape so
01:03 matey; /me shrugs
01:03 matey; oj: murdered someone
01:03 matey; but murder isnt such a big deal
01:03 MinceR; sometimes evil infights
01:03 matey; they murdered natalie wood too
01:03 matey; they didnt get cancelled
01:03 MinceR; and how do you know poettering didn't rape anyone?
01:03 matey; oh i dont know that but
01:04 matey; no ones accused him
01:04 matey; all im saying is that to be cancelled
01:04 matey; you either have to be a good person (not evil)
01:04 matey; OR you have to rape someone
01:04 MinceR; \_()_/
01:04 matey; those are the two categories of people who get cancelled
01:04 MinceR; i thought i've read of SJWs getting into trouble for writing objectionable stuff before
01:04 matey; evil non-rapists are safe
01:05 MinceR; most of them are expendable from the perspective of their corporate overlords anyway
01:05 matey; i mean some people think molly is cancelled
01:05 matey; but i dont think its like that
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01:05 matey; i think shes just out of people ready to trust her since her m.o. across every position shes had has been...
01:05 matey; not problematic so much as
01:06 matey; i know: a clusterfuck
01:06 matey; its not the same as being cancelled, even if it has similar symptoms
01:06 matey; she can probably start a youtube channel and have people watch
01:07 matey; as long as she doesnt want to get paid for it
01:07 matey; at any rate this is all speculation, i just dont think shes been cancelled
01:08 matey; cancelling only means anything if its among the cancel brigade network
01:08 matey; they havent targeted her
01:08 matey; therefore, shes not cancelled
01:08 matey; if it seems arbitrary and nonsensical, of course it is
01:09 MinceR; yeah, i was a bit inexact in my phrasing
01:09 matey; but even arbitrary nonsense follows certain patterns (mostly) even if theyre patterns of contradiction and double standards
01:09 MinceR; what i actually meant was, did he get into trouble for writing something objectionable on his blog
01:09 matey; oh, with ibm maybe?
01:09 matey; that would be interesting
01:10 matey; i cant imagine him saying anything that bad on his blog he hasnt already
01:10 matey; the only exception i can think of is
01:10 matey; he says really dumb things about security and design
01:10 matey; every stupid thing he does he has a reason for
01:10 matey; usually the reason is "the alternative is stupid"
01:10 matey; often hes wrong of course
01:10 matey; so if we suppose he said that about a project from someone more important at ibm...
01:10 matey; :)
01:11 matey; that would be a hoot. it seems like a long shot
01:11 matey; but not exactly implausible
01:11 matey; if anyone i can think of is more opinionated than stallman
01:11 matey; its lennart
01:11 matey; everything you do is wrong-- everything he does is the right way
01:12 matey; and theres just nowhere you can go (but lennart himself) to find out what the right way actually is
01:12 matey; /me looks at hitler and herr doktor
01:12 matey; (might be a german thing)
01:12 matey; im not saying others dont do it, but...
01:12 matey; (might be a german thing)
01:13 MinceR; :>
01:13 matey; im looking forward to finding out what roy is insinuating about all this
01:13 matey; either something has happened, or
01:14 matey; hes just deciding that now is the time to make a bigger deal of it than usual (perhaps because he left red hat) the way he talks about it though-- its as if something happened
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01:15 matey; i havent ruled out hype at all
01:15 matey; its tricky to rule out
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01:16 MinceR; it's not a german thing
01:16 MinceR; jeremy crawford is similar, at least in the absolute inability to admit being wrong about anything he's ever done
01:18 MinceR; (and doubling down on the idiocy when called out)
01:40 matey; oh thats just narcissism
01:41 matey; not exclusively german
01:41 matey; i dont know who jeremy crawford is, so comparing him to lennart is tricky for now
01:41 matey; maybe german narcissists are special
01:42 matey; or maybe its something unique that goes beyond that
01:42 matey; it could also be the same, but i think it stands out
01:43 matey; maybe when you combine the quintessential german personality with narcissism this is what you get
01:43 MinceR; :>
01:43 MinceR; the hack who designed D&D 5e
01:43 matey; lol
01:43 matey; systemd-dndd ?
01:43 MinceR; lol
01:43 MinceR; no, that was the abomination they called "4e"
01:44 matey; i should just avoid anything with dnd and "e" perhaps?
01:44 MinceR; no
01:44 matey; 3e is ok?
01:44 MinceR; 3e was good (though 3.5 is better)
01:44 MinceR; AD&D 2e was good too (though not as good as D&D 3e)
01:45 matey; ive dated people into dnd, ive married people into dnd
01:45 matey; one of my closer friends is into dnd
01:45 matey; i cant seem to get into it
01:45 matey; but i sort of get it
01:45 matey; i loved tabletitans. its a webcomic based on tabletop gaming
01:45 MinceR; :>
01:46 matey; my close friend who is a dm, i told him he should write a book based on some of his adventures
01:46 MinceR; here's an example of jeremy crawford being incompetent and being unable to admit it >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC-t1yoPCIQ&t=745s
01:46 TR Bot; https://y.com.sb/watch?v=JC-t1yoPCIQ
01:46 TR Bot; y.com.sb | Weird Rules in D&D 5e - Invidious
01:46 matey; hes one of the nuttiest people ive known, and hes got a very unconventional take on ... practically everything
01:47 matey; he makes stallman look mainstream as fuck. but he does shave and wash, for the record
01:47 MinceR; lol
01:49 matey; why does stabbing do slashing damage?
01:49 MinceR; because apparently specifying multiple damage types for a weapon and letting players choose was not "streamlined" enough?
01:49 MinceR; s/.$//
01:50 MinceR; naturally, in 3.x, they did specify multiple damage types and let players choose
01:50 MinceR; but then, those editions weren't designed with the assumption of the players being complete morons
01:51 MinceR; (still, not to the extent of some swords letting you choose between Piercing and Slashing, though)
01:51 matey; you can see them but you dont have the advantage that seeing them has!
01:52 matey; what?
01:52 MinceR; afaik they never let you pick Piercing for stabbing with a "longsword" (which should be an arming sword)
01:52 matey; <MinceR> but then, those editions weren't designed with the assumption of the players being complete morons <- dont let d&d be designed by GNOMEs
01:52 MinceR; :>
01:53 matey; freedungeon.org/dungeonmains/codeofuniverse.html
01:54 MinceR; freedungeon.orgs DNS address could not be found.
01:54 matey; TECHNICALLY codes of conduct forbid tabletop gaming, at least dnd rules
01:54 matey; because threatening language
01:54 matey; i mean dnd is violent af
01:55 MinceR; lol
01:55 matey; /me waits for the dnd version where the dm is required to use trigger warnings
01:55 MinceR; that will be the sign of the end of times
01:56 MinceR; they already started doing weird and pointless things to Ravenloft
01:56 matey; trigger warning: this battle may contain graphic descriptions of physical violence
01:56 matey; roll for diversity!
01:56 matey; oh, you rolled a 1. im sorry but i have to cancel your character.
01:57 MinceR; diversity is easily achieved in tabletop RPG settings, they don't need to write any rules for that
01:57 matey; diversity is easily achieved <- yes, well-- thats what a lot of privileged people think
01:57 MinceR; :>
01:57 MinceR; that's what i've experienced in the games i've played
01:58 matey; but ACTUALLY, implicit diversity is often used as an excuse by those with privilege and the only REAL diversity is the kind that gets EXPLICITLY shoved down your throat at the beginning of every move, topic or thought
01:58 MinceR; lol
01:58 matey; that's what i've experienced <- well of course being a cis white male its impossible to tell if diversity is sufficient or not, because youll assume it is because of your experience.
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.31 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.71 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:59 matey; AND EVEN IF YOU COULD SEE IT it wont necessarily affect the advantage!
2 AM, July 7
02:00 matey; roll for privilege!
02:01 matey; (if youre white and male, multiply your roll by 2. if youre black / female / lgbt-but-not-male divide your roll by 5)
02:02 matey; this is how progress is made, through bureaucracy and micromanagement.
02:02 matey; and its FUN, TOO!
02:02 matey; /me rolls for sarcasm
02:02 matey; wow, dice can explode?
02:02 matey; ^ trigger warning
02:02 MinceR; there is a thing that's called "exploding dice"
02:03 matey; id ask what it does, but id feel stupid asking
02:03 matey; "it makes the dice explode"
02:03 MinceR; it's when upon rolling the highest value on any individual die you get to reroll that die and add the result to the total
02:03 matey; oh cool
02:03 matey; but less cool than the dice exploding
02:03 MinceR; (in addition to the maximum value you rolled)
02:05 matey; /me skips to 14:40
02:05 matey; uh oh
02:07 matey; is there a word for dnd designers / standards writing minmaxing, or should there be
02:07 matey; because it sounds like crawford is making minmaxing mandatory or built in
02:07 matey; "i just want to play"
02:08 matey; "well you cant, you have to relearn everything and there are twice as many rules you have to follow"
02:08 matey; "but its not fun anymore"
02:08 matey; "on the contrary, now its twice as fun!"
02:08 matey; "what?"
02:08 matey; "twice the rules, twice the fun!"
02:09 matey; " no one likes to play with you do they"
02:09 matey; "they dont have a choice! bahahahahaha"
02:09 matey; "seriously, they get paid to play, so if they dont want to theyd have to quit and find real jobs"
02:10 matey; /me has no idea how these books are actually written and tested
02:10 MinceR; i don't think even optimization is mandatory
02:11 MinceR; but some amount of power is generally preferred
02:11 matey; because jeremy crawford is a man, he cant tell thats brandys long-suffering tight-lipped smile
02:11 MinceR; i do enjoy optimization though
02:12 matey; because ive paid close attention to comedy, i can tell from her facial expression that if they were married he would spend the next 10 days sleeping on the couch
02:12 matey; shes thinking of ways to kill him that wont point to her as he speaks
02:13 matey; the little grin at 15:43: jeremy, if that chair has it, eject now
02:14 MinceR; lol
02:16 matey; so i did get sucked into his bullshit field for about 10 seconds
02:16 MinceR; lol
02:17 matey; but the person who made the video pulled me back out
02:17 matey; its always interesting when that happens
02:17 matey; its like i could see his bullshit but i didnt have the advantage anyway
02:17 matey; "but that proves my"
02:17 matey; "NO, THATS JUST IT, ITS STILL BULLSHIT!"
02:18 matey; i dont think ive got enough chill for dnd
02:18 matey; chill depends on a lot of factors
02:19 matey; you could put a loaded gun in my hand without it ever going off over some stupid thing
02:19 matey; but put me behind the wheel of a car with these idiot fuckers on the road day in and day out
02:19 matey; it wouldnt go well
02:20 matey; there are just too many stupid people driving
02:23 matey; speaking of loaded guns, its kind of amazing that esr hasnt shot anyone yet
02:23 matey; hes certainly invented enough reasons to
02:23 matey; i dont think hes even given a definitive answer on whether "looking at him funny" counts or not
02:24 matey; but if it does, hes a total hypocrite, because he looks at everyone funny
02:24 matey; i mean hes esr. he cant NOT look at you funny.
02:24 MinceR; lol
02:36 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-060722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-060722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-060722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-060722.txt
02:36 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, July 06, 2022
02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-060722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-060722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-060722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-060722.txt
02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, July 06, 2022
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02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, July 06, 2022
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02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, July 06, 2022
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-07-06.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-07-06.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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03:09 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 69684 total Total number of pages in capsule: 41515 Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 1 months 10 days ago
03:10 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 17 MB TotalOut: 3.1 MB
03:11 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
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03:13 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
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04:03 AdmFubar; anyone else getting a 404 error from xkcd??? https://xkcd.com/2642/
04:03 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://xkcd.com/2642/ )
04:15 AdmFubar; got past the "Monthly Update: Assault on Your Privacy' article and read the "Mozilla Works To Bring Manifest V3 Support To Firefox By Late 2022" section https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202207/page05.html
04:15 TR Bot; PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 5
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04:51 TR News; Unleashing the Librem 14 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166937
04:51 TR Bot; Unleashing the Librem 14 | Tux Machines
04:51 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, July 06, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
04:51 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:52 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
04:52 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
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05:05 TR News; New in PCLOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166911#comment-34267
05:05 TR Bot; The July 2022 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux Machines
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05:30 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D284.jpg
05:31 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D635.jpg
05:36 TR News; Whatever happened to SHA-256 support in Git? [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/898522/ Source: LWN | Kernel | Linux
05:36 TR Bot; happened to SHA-256 support in Git? [LWN.net]
05:36 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166938
05:36 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
05:38 TR News; Torvalds looks 60. He's now helping Hondahl promote his new paymaster.
05:44 TR News; 94': Linux 1.0 96': 2.0 2011: 3.0 2015: 4.0 2019: 5.0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Linux
05:44 TR Bot; History of Linux - Wikipedia
05:45 TR News; LWN on Kernel: LSSNA, Open Source Summit, and NFS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166939
05:45 TR Bot; LWN on Kernel: LSSNA, Open Source Summit, and NFS | Tux Machines
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06:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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07:28 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: repairing the DB again, its state gets worse over time
07:29 schestowitz[TR]; I'd migrate all nodes since June 27to to the new site, then restore from 27/6/22 backuyp
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07:38 TR News; "I have updated the YouTube proxy so that there are multiple download links for each video quality that one can download." gemini://auragem.space/devlog/20220707.gmi
07:48 Ariadne; https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Systemd-Creator-Microsoft
07:48 TR Bot; Creator Lands At Microsoft - Phoronix
07:48 Ariadne; the jokes write themselves
07:49 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, hence my response
07:49 schestowitz[TR]; saying alpine would be good
07:50 schestowitz[TR]; we won't need a DB
07:50 schestowitz[TR]; we write things with shell and maybe perl
07:50 schestowitz[TR]; all the pages served as static html files
07:51 TR News; Links 06/07/2022: Release of pgAdmin 4 v6.11 and FSF Spring Bulletin | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/fsf-spring-bulletin/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/07/fsf-spring-bulletin/
07:51 TR Bot; Links 06/07/2022: Release of pgAdmin 4 v6.11 and FSF Spring Bulletin | Techrights
07:52 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166940
07:52 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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08:22 TR News; "Tor Network, having as its default search engine DuckDuckGo." Tor took bribes from Microsoft, via its proxy DDG, and now helps Microsoft spy on Tor users. Tor is compromised. https://trendoceans.com/install-tor-browser-linux/ http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo
08:22 TR Bot; How to Install Tor Browser in Linux with Security Guide - TREND OCEANS
08:22 TR Bot; DuckDuckGo - Techrights
08:24 TR News; Tor Browser if not Tor Project is compromised. Bribed by Microsoft to help Microsoft spy...
08:29 TR News; "Early this year, Axzez released the Interceptor Carrier Board for the RPi CM4 and a Power over Ethernet (PoE+) board." https://linuxgizmos.com/axzez-releases-news-for-interceptor-board-accessories/
08:29 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/axzez-releases-news-for-interceptor-board-accessories/ )
08:31 TR News; Microsoft systemd has made "Linux" as unreliable as Windows https://techhq.com/2022/07/ubuntu-22-oomd-app-killer-memory-pressure/
08:31 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 users find problem with OOMD app killer
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08:35 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/irc-log-060722/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/07/irc-log-060722/
08:35 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, July 06, 2022 | Techrights
08:36 TR News; Took me a minute; summer camp gemini://eph.smol.pub/1657173566
08:36 TR News; "Hi there! Hope you're doing well. I'll show you how to compile and use Gemserv, the Gemini server I use for serving pages on Altesq, my pubnix." gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-07-07.gmi
08:38 TR News; DDG did not DONATE to Tor. It passed MICROSOFT BRIBE MONEY TO TOR. And now Tor Browser helps the NSA, via Microsoft, spy on users. Microsoft is subsidised (or bailed out) with Pentagon budgets for 'dick moves' like these...
08:41 TR News; Raspberry Pi 4 Support is Coming to Fedora Linux - It's FOSS News https://news.itsfoss.com/fedora-raspberry-pi-4/ Source: itsfoss
08:41 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi 4 Support is Coming to Fedora Linux - It's FOSS News
08:42 TR News; Wccftech helps Larabel spam for AMD https://wccftech.com/amd-continues-to-hire-open-source-developers-to-stay-ahead-of-the-competition/ see http://techrights.org/2022/07/06/amd-classifieds/
08:42 TR Bot; AMD continues to hire open-source developers to stay ahead of the competition
08:42 TR Bot; Classifieds: Phoronix Jobs, Sponsored by AMD | Techrights
08:46 TR News; xkcd: Meta-Alternating Current https://xkcd.com/2642/ Source: xkcd
08:46 TR Bot; Meta-Alternating Current
08:46 TR News; GNU/Linux Devices: Raspberry Pi 4 and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166941
08:46 TR Bot; GNU/Linux Devices: Raspberry Pi 4 and More | Tux Machines
08:46 TR News; Alternatives for Windows - 5 Best and Free Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166942
08:46 TR Bot; Alternatives for Windows - 5 Best and Free | Tux Machines
08:54 TR News; Malware needs to actually get installed to do harm. Contrariwise, Windows has back doors, so harm can be done remotely by anybody https://thehackernews.com/2022/07/researchers-warn-of-new-orbit-linux.html
08:54 TR Bot; Researchers Warn of New OrBit Linux Malware That Hijacks Execution Flow
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08:59 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/sports.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-sports#comic )
08:59 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
9 AM, July 7
09:00 TR News; AMD is finally coming to Starlabs, as StarBook is now available to order with Ryzen 7 (Review) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166943
09:00 TR Bot; AMD is finally coming to Starlabs, as StarBook is now available to order with Ryzen 7 (Review) | Tux Machines
09:02 MinceR; at least it isn't STAR Institute
09:02 schestowitz[TR]; what is that?
09:02 MinceR; the bad guy's place in Blake Stone: Aliens of Gold
09:03 TR News; CANBed M4 SAM E51 development board features MCP2542FD CAN transceiver - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/07/canbed-m4-sam-e51-development-board-features-mcp2542fd-can-transceiver/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware
09:03 TR Bot; CANBed M4 SAM E51 development board features MCP2542FD CAN transceiver - CNX Software
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09:07 TR News; What Are the Advantages of Utilizing Cloud-Based Linux Systems? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166944
09:07 TR Bot; What Are the Advantages of Utilizing Cloud-Based Linux Systems? | Tux Machines
09:07 TR News; AMD is finally coming to Starlabs, as StarBook is now available to order with Ryzen 7 (Review) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166943
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09:12 TR News; XWayland or Wayland itself broke a number of things https://rubenerd.com/getting-fedora-back-to-xwayland-when-xorg-breaks/
09:12 TR Bot; Booting Fedora into XWayland when Xorg breaks
09:13 *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer).
09:13 TR News; The real, mechanical walkman had advantages. For instance, the tapes last many decades. https://rubenerd.com/my-new-sony-nw-a55-walkman/
09:13 TR Bot; My new Sony NW-A55 Walkman! Also a review
09:13 *Now talking on #techrights
09:14 TR News; Lake Karapiro https://robert.ocallahan.org/2022/07/turangi-road-trip.html
09:14 TR Bot; Eyes Above The Waves: Trangi Road Trip
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09:15 TR News; "It's not necessarily the wrong trade-off. There will always be applications that need to live on a different side of the triangle." https://matt-rickard.com/web3s-scalability-trilemma/
09:15 TR Bot; Giving Up Decentralization: Scalability Trilemma
09:15 TR News; "Labor doesnt have a great record when it comes to privacy and digital rights. It was Steven Conroy who proposed the Great Firewall of Australia, and they were nothing but enablers for the previous mobs AA bill." https://rubenerd.com/australian-ag-dreyfus-on-data-privacy-law/
09:15 TR Bot; Australian AG Dreyfus on data privacy law
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09:16 TR News; "This clear message from Parliament to take civil societys warnings seriously" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/three-years-into-the-digital-fight-for-freedom-in-brussels-pirates-matter/
09:16 TR Bot; Three years into the digital fight for freedom in Brussels Pirates matter! Patrick Breyer
09:17 TR News; Fortress conservation violently displaces Indigenous people | Grist https://grist.org/article/fortress-conservation-violently-displaces-indigenous-people/ Source: grist
09:17 TR Bot; Fortress conservation violently displaces Indigenous people | Grist
09:18 TR News; Jeffrey Epstein's enabler Bill Gates hopes to profit while we get cancer from these https://www.wired.com/story/smaller-reactors-may-still-have-a-big-nuclear-waste-problem/
09:18 TR Bot; Reactors May Still Have a Big Nuclear Waste Problem | WIRED
09:20 TR News; Architecture as a form of oppression - neritam https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/07/03/architecture-as-a-form-of-oppression/ Source: neritam
09:20 TR Bot; Architecture as a form of oppression neritam
09:21 TR News; "As fossil fuel corporations reap fabulous profits at the expense of Australian gas and electricity customers, the gas lobby is running a propaganda campaign calling for Australia to power the world, help Ukraine, let "the market" do its thing. " https://michaelwest.com.au/gas-lies-as-super-profits-ramp-up-so-too-does-the-fossil-fuel-propaganda-war/
09:21 TR Bot; Gas Lies: as super profits ramp up so too does the fossil fuel propaganda war - Michael West
09:23 TR News; EPO acting like a Microsoft front (they impose Microsoft everything on staff... and now applicants) https://www.epo.org/service-support/updates/2022/20220701.html http://techrights.org/2022/07/01/epo-online-means-microsoft/
09:23 TR Bot; EPO - Online Filing software Version 5.14 now available
09:23 TR Bot; At the EPO, Online Means Microsoft Windows Only (Unitary Patent Also Limited to Microsoft Customers!) | Techrights
09:24 TR News; Microsoft acts in a fashion hardly distinguishable from organised crime groups. Some of the staff isn't even aware.
09:27 TR News; How IBM Red Hat will drive away more employees (while hiring people from Microsoft as MANAGERS) https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/07/07/add-infinispan-cache-your-aspnet-application
09:27 TR Bot; Add an Infinispan cache to your ASP.NET application | Red Hat Developer
09:28 TR News; Check disk usage in Linux | https://opensource.com/article/22/7/check-disk-usage-linux Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux
09:28 TR Bot; disk usage in Linux | Opensource.com
09:28 TR News; Use secret keyboard keys on Linux | https://opensource.com/article/22/7/linux-compose-key-cheat-sheet Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux
09:28 TR Bot; secret keyboard keys on Linux | Opensource.com
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09:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:30 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166945
09:30 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
09:32 TR News; "Im happy to announce that Meetbot Logs (or Mote) 2.0 is now live at meetbot.fedoraproject.org. Meetbot Logs allows the community to see the minutes and logs from meetings." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/meetbot-logs-2-0-is-out-now/ But Fedora lost so many of the geeks/volunteers of value
09:32 TR Bot; Meetbot Logs 2.0 is Out Now Fedora Community Blog
09:33 TR News; Red Hat is collapsing, but is tries to lecture us on how we "can create resilient organizations" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/cios-resilient-organizations
09:33 TR Bot; 4 ways CIOs can create resilient organizations | The Enterprisers Project
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09:34 TR News; Red Hat: listen to military company Boston Dynamics... and how it uses its SLAVES https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/7-key-pieces-wisdom-share-mentees
09:34 TR Bot; 7 key pieces of wisdom to share with mentees | The Enterprisers Project
09:36 TR News; ICBM and Microsoft: ATTACKING people and ATTACKING GNU/Linux is OK. Just don't use "dirty" words like master. Also: naming the person who is attacking Linux (and now works directly for Microsoft) is harassment and bigotry...
09:37 TR News; "The Design and Implementation of the NetBSD rc.d system, selling OpenBSD as a salesperson, Speeding up autoconf with caching, Allowing non-root execution of a jailed application, Configure login(1) and sshd(8) for YubiKey on OpenBSD, and more." https://www.bsdnow.tv/462
09:37 TR Bot; BSD Now 462: OpenBSD Sales Pitch
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09:40 TR News; LP https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQEjtmvrizqJkTn6pVRoOLEKDLa9Cde0eK5hw&usqp=CAU
09:41 TR News; LP https://ferryhere.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/jmucqaaz7zsnn-smud.jpg?w=300
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09:53 matey; has roy let the cat out of the system-d-bag yet
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09:54 matey; yes, as in d-bag
09:54 matey; rhymes with bouche
09:55 matey; which means mouth, though i cant vouch for the spelling
09:56 schestowitz[TR]; doing a meme, wait..
09:56 matey; memes are what youve been doing in here
09:56 matey; a bunch of innuendo without providing any trail to information
09:57 matey; "is systemd more tied to microsoft? find out tonight at 11, after several of you have gone to bed because you have work in the morning"
09:57 matey; "well, i guess they can dvr it, david. and heres jan with the weather! jan?"
09:58 TR News; First You Spend a Few Years Pretending to Care About GNU/Linux | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/miguel-de-lp/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/07/miguel-de-lp/
09:58 TR Bot; First You Spend a Few Years Pretending to Care About GNU/Linux | Techrights
09:58 schestowitz[TR]; see vvv
09:58 schestowitz[TR]; ^^ rather
09:59 matey; "why dont you just say it, john? its another gloomy day here in germany, but thats karma for you. we have a cold front moving in but its still summer, and apart from the fog and bullshit it should be a lovely day somewhere else in europe."
10 AM, July 7
10:00 TR News; LP now "working 100% of the time" detaching GNU/Linux from UNIX and making it fertile for Windows absorption
10:01 matey; if mincer finds out ill just ask him, hes not such a dick-puller
10:01 schestowitz[TR]; does anyone want png of LP without background?
10:01 matey; why would they want that
10:01 matey; darts?
10:02 matey; it would be the biggest news this month, lets use it for traffic shaping
10:02 schestowitz[TR]; can you find the tea party" photo?
10:02 matey; /me still thinks its hype
10:02 schestowitz[TR]; where LP provokes the Linux people?
10:06 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vhvYeGv6ecg&t=80
10:06 TR Bot; Undercover Brother: Brotherhood Headquarters (HD CLIP) - Invidious
10:06 matey; wrong clip too
10:06 matey; but thats fitting
10:09 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Y3T_xczFl5A
10:09 TR Bot; You're a cock... (from Britain's "The Office") - Invidious
10:12 schestowitz[TR]; matey: vv
10:12 TR News; Eine Nation, Eine System | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/eine-nation-eine-system/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/07/eine-nation-eine-system/
10:12 TR Bot; Eine Nation, Eine System | Techrights
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; humour for coping
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; and also an lement of truth to the joke
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; he was never a team player
10:15 matey; sometimes when kids dont want to talk about something, therapists will give them a hand puppet to talk with and theyre more comfortable if the puppet says it
10:15 TR News; "Once upon a time, people tried to avoid STM32 fakes and clones, but in a world where companies are allegedly purchasing washing machines to extract a few unavailable components, people have started to look for alternatives, and last week I wrote about the Geehy APM32 family of STM32 clones." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/07/flashchip-fcm32-is-yet-another-alternative-to-stm32-microcontroller/
10:15 TR Bot; Flashchip FCM32 is yet another alternative to STM32 microcontroller - CNX Software
10:15 matey; we could try it with puppets
10:16 matey; /me is getting nothing from http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/systemd-logo.png
10:16 matey; i dont even know what its supposed to be
10:17 matey; i see the windows logo and the systemd logo, and its clearly the winme theme/style
10:17 matey; and some unrecognisable shit
10:18 matey; plus a portmanteu of me and "mine" in german (dutch)
10:18 matey; oh wait, are those illiterate swastikas? if so thats actually funny
10:18 matey; because we make fun of those here
10:18 matey; good in joke
10:18 matey; but still not informative
10:21 TR News; 10 Fun Free and Open Source Sandbox Games Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166946
10:21 TR Bot; 10 Fun Free and Open Source Sandbox Games | Tux Machines
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; matey: it is an american version of the swastika
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; few know that symbol
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, microsoft is USA
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; pentagon funded
10:24 matey; matey: it is an american version of the swastika <- it looks like a little dancing person
10:24 matey; is federico mena the same person as federico mena quintero?
10:24 matey; the former co-founded gnome
10:24 matey; the latter signed the anti-stallman letter
10:24 matey; no one with "caza" in their name did
10:25 matey; nor did nat friedman
10:25 matey; /me does not know how spanish names get so long. picassos name is practically an epic
10:26 matey; confirmation in the catholic church adds one name, as far as i know
10:26 matey; so getting from three at birth to 4 is trivial to explain
10:26 matey; the rest i am unaware of how it works
10:27 matey; if i knew how spanish names got extended, apart from the ways i already knew, perhaps i could assess the possibility that federico mena and federico mena quintero are the same person
10:27 matey; at the moment i dont assume
10:28 matey; this is fun:
10:28 matey; Federico Mena Quintero - Senior Engineer - Novell / SUSE Linux | LinkedIn
10:28 matey; that could still be the same one, i dont know. or it might not be
10:28 matey; either way, thanks a fucking bunch, dr suse
10:29 matey; An Interview With Librsvg Maintainer Federico Mena Quintero
10:29 matey; federicomenaquintero (Federico Mena Quintero) GitHub
10:30 matey; here we go, same person
10:30 matey; https://viruta.org/pages/about.html
10:30 TR Bot; About - Federico's Blog
10:30 matey; Federico Mena Quintero (he/him) is one of the founders of the GNOME project
10:30 matey; so one of the founders of gnome signed the anti-rms letter
10:31 matey; when can we nuke it?
10:31 matey; and i remember techrights said a lot of dumb shit about how it was just the foundation
10:31 matey; like the foundation isnt loaded with devs and former devs
10:32 matey; even lie-nux foundation used to have former devs
10:32 matey; (now it doesnt even have "linux" users)
10:32 matey; (well, windows is linux, so maybe swapnil)
10:32 matey; gnu/windows
10:32 matey; because windows is linux
10:33 matey; more debian people than gnome foundation
10:33 matey; more debian people than even red hat
10:33 matey; techrights left that out
10:33 matey; but now we know that systemd is microsoft (as it was before)
10:33 matey; someday we may know how
10:33 matey; /me will probably read it on zdnet before he finds out here
10:34 matey; not that i expect to change that
10:34 matey; but it wont stop me from having a laugh about it
10:35 matey; "we dont do straight answers. we like teasers and american swastikas"
10:35 matey; whatever floats your tilla
10:35 matey; unbelievable
10:35 matey; Federico Mena Quintero: We can have nice things RustFest LATAM 2022
10:35 matey; no, we cant. and cunts like you are EXACTLY the reason.
10:35 matey; rustfest
10:35 matey; more like fuckfest
10:36 matey; we can have nice things-- until rust gets updated
10:36 matey; we can have 20 versions of microsofts compiler
10:36 matey; oh! is systemd getting rewritten in rust?
10:36 matey; /me just keeps guessing until it overlaps with what actually happened, then says "we talked about that a week ago"
10:37 matey; is systemd getting rewritten in rust? <- actually i do think i joked/cynicised about that a while ago. but i havent read anything about it yet
10:37 matey; cynicised = cynical + prophesised
10:38 matey; its bound to happen sooner or later
10:40 matey; /me points out that gnome is an almost completely anti-rms project
10:40 matey; for those who still use that pile of shit
10:40 matey; its been a knife in the back of free software since day 1
10:41 matey; not just anti-rms
10:41 matey; anti-freedom
10:41 matey; open source
10:41 matey; gnome is weaponised bullshit
10:42 matey; roys not mad at them
10:42 matey; hes got thick skin
10:43 matey; and a big heart that can forgive any level of treachery
10:43 matey; particularly when it doesnt affect him
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10:44 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/252923
10:44 TR Bot; Russian Duma toughens laws, classifies information on luxury real estate and goes on vacation
10:44 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/252929
10:44 TR Bot; Omsk resident beaten by police and fined by court for displaying passport cover with Ukrainian coat of arms
10:45 XRevan86; https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/07/a78230 (Volodin)
10:45 TR Bot; Russian House Speaker Threatens to Take Back Alaska - The Moscow Times
10:45 schestowitz[TR]; we're started developing the new CMS for tuxmachines \0/
10:46 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166947
10:46 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
10:46 XRevan86; https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/releases/0.3.54
10:46 TR Bot; 0.3.54 PipeWire / pipewire GitLab
10:50 TR News; "However, recently I discovered a limitation of Linux's serial console support" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/KernelSerialConsoleOnlyOne | Source: uni Toronto
10:50 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/KernelSerialConsoleOnlyOne
10:51 TR News; "Signal leaks your phone number to everyone you talk to, and if you want to quit using it" https://idiomdrottning.org/signal | Source: Idiomdrottning
10:51 TR Bot; Signal
10:51 TR News; "Over three years ago, the Global Cyber Alliance (GCA) established a worldwide honeyfarm" https://labs.ripe.net/author/leslie-daigle/dealing-with-the-undercurrent-of-unwanted-traffic/ | Source: RIPE
10:51 TR Bot; Dealing with the Undercurrent of Unwanted Traffic | RIPE Labs
10:51 TR News; "The major remaining hurdle bhyve needs to overcome to reach parity with KVM revolves around the tooling..." https://klarasystems.com/articles/from-0-to-bhyve-on-freebsd-13-1/ | Source: Klara
10:51 TR Bot; From 0 to Bhyve on FreeBSD 13.1 | Klara Inc.
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10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
11 AM, July 7
11:11 psydruid; An Interview With Librsvg Dickhead Federico Mena Quintero, who started requiring Rust to build it before the Rust compiler was even ported and supported on most operating systems and architectures
11:18 XRevan86; Is it correct that the most likely candidates for the Boris' chair are Liz Truss and Ben Wallace?
11:19 TR News; "Until it royally screwed up my entire day once" https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-06-that-time-i-was-screwed-over-by-red-hat-network.html | Source: Bjrn Wrmedal
11:20 TR Bot; That Time I Was Screwed Over By Red Hat Network - Bjrn Wrmedal
11:20 TR News; Release GnuPG 2.2.36 https://dev.gnupg.org/T5949 |
11:20 TR Bot; T5949 Release GnuPG 2.2.36
11:20 TR News; "aimed at those like me who use Ubuntu and PostgreSQL to develop locally on their computer" https://www.paulox.net/2022/04/28/upgrading-postgresql-from-version-13-to-14-on-ubuntu-22-04-jammy-jellyfish/ | Source: Paolo Melchiorre
11:20 TR Bot; pauloxnet - Upgrade PostgreSQL from 13 to 14 on Ubuntu22.04
11:21 TR News; "A good habit is to skim over the manual every few months. You'll pick up something new and useful every time" https://blog.plover.com/2022/07/06/#tips-2 | Source: Mark Dominus
11:21 TR Bot; The Universe of Discourse : Things I wish everyone knew about Git (Part II)
11:22 TR News; "The Fields Medal is awarded to recognize outstanding mathematical achievement" https://www.mathunion.org/imu-awards/fields-medal/fields-medals-2022 |
11:22 TR Bot; communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s). ( status 0 @ https://www.mathunion.org/imu-awards/fields-medal/fields-medals-2022 )
11:22 TR News; "Lately, that work has taken the form of a threepaper series about how prime numbers are distributed" https://www.quantamagazine.org/number-theorist-james-maynard-wins-the-fields-medal-20220705/ | Source: Quanta Magazine
11:22 TR Bot; Quanta Magazine
11:23 TR News; "In contrast, the idea of sufficiency implies the absolute reduction of resource and energy demands in ways that maintain (or even improve) general living conditions and perhaps widen opportunities for everyone to lead flourishing lives." https://criticaledtech.com/2022/07/06/digital-sufficiency-notes-on-santarius-et-al-2022/ | Source: Neil Selwyn
11:23 TR Bot; Digital sufficiency (notes on Santariuset al. 2022) Critical Studies of EDUCATION & TECHNOLOGY
11:23 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/publisher-news/article/89728-shutdown-leaves-macmillan-unable-to-handle-book-orders.html | Source: Publishers Weekly
11:23 TR Bot; Shutdown Leaves Macmillan Unable to Handle Book Orders
11:23 matey; who started requiring Rust to build it before the Rust compiler was even ported and supported on most operating systems and architectures <- move fast and break gnu/linux
11:24 TR News; Also Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.databreaches.net/ca-college-of-the-desert-victimized-once-again-by-ransomware-most-online-services-currently-down/ | Source: Data Breaches
11:24 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/ca-college-of-the-desert-victimized-once-again-by-ransomware-most-online-services-currently-down/ )
11:24 TR News; "At this time, Robles could not say whether the college has fallen victim to the same [cracker] or type of malware as it did two years ago, or if any [cracker] has demanded a ransom to unlock the college's computer systems." https://eu.desertsun.com/story/news/education/2022/07/05/malware-attack-takes-down-college-desert-network-again/7813631001/ | Source: Gannett
11:24 TR Bot; Malware attack takes down College of the Desert network again
11:24 matey; what do you expect from systemdick-gnomedick
11:25 TR News; "Keep reading to find out what we learned, and why must take action to ban the use of these technologies now before it is too late." https://www.greens-efa.eu/opinions/facial-recognition-in-european-cities-what-you-should-know-about-biometric-mass-surveillance/ | Source: The Greens / EFA
11:25 TR Bot; Facial Recognition in European Cities - Read our new study - Greens/EFA
11:25 matey; and supported on most operating systems and architectures <- its not supported on any, its a blob
11:25 TR News; "The U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee chair and top Republican have called on the Federal Trade Commission to investigate social media app TikTok" https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/sens-rubio-warner-seek-ftc-investigation-tiktok-us-data-access-rcna36828 | Source: NBC
11:25 TR Bot; Sens. Rubio, Warner seek FTC investigation into TikTok over U.S. data access
11:25 matey; rust is gnome made into a programming language
11:26 matey; systemd is gnome made into an operating system
11:26 matey; its arseholeware
11:27 matey; by arseholes, for arseholes
11:27 matey; made of arseholes
11:28 matey; pinkslimeware, spamware, entrailware
11:28 matey; taste the difference
11:29 matey; gnome/rust/systemd: the unholy triumvirate-- the other mystery meat
11:30 matey; but its free software, you say
11:31 matey; sure, free software that destroys all other free software? pass
11:31 matey; stallman is dead
11:32 matey; if he were alive he would say something
11:32 matey; maybe boston dynamics built a replacement
11:32 matey; they needed a couple years to work out the bugs
11:33 matey; one of the drawbacks of the android stallman is he cant grow a long beard
11:33 matey; most see that as a feature. at least its a way to tell it from the real one
11:34 matey; for future reference, android stallman is a joke
11:34 matey; it just isnt funny, because its too close to the reality
11:37 matey; what happened to stallman
11:37 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Dk-DWsU1XpI
11:37 TR Bot; Invasion of the Body Snatchers 1956, Pods & Pod People - Invidious
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11:40 matey; funny how pod people explains the entire fsf
11:41 matey; you thought the coup was just corporate shills, no no
11:41 matey; im not saying its aliens
11:41 matey; but its aliens
11:43 psydruid; he's in labour
11:43 matey; another ones going to burst out of his chest?
11:43 matey; join us now and enslave the humans!
11:44 matey; theyll be food, for us! theyll be foooooood
11:44 TR News; "The writer issued some advice for others who may find themselves in a similar situation" https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/apple-airtag-tracking-stop-detect-b2115207.html | Source: The Independent UK
11:44 TR Bot; Apple responds after woman describes nightmare of being tracked by AirTag | The Independent
11:44 matey; join us now and enslave the humans
11:44 TR News; "Once May discovered the alert, she was able to disable it before leaving Disneyland." https://9to5mac.com/2022/07/05/actress-airtag-tracking-disneyland/ | Source: 9to5Mac
11:44 TR Bot; AirTag tracking experience shared by actress at Disneyland
11:44 matey; theyll be food for us-- theyll be food
11:44 psydruid; android stallman meets borisnaro to set the stage for the future
11:44 TR News; Tracker Detect https://www.businesstoday.in/technology/news/story/how-to-know-if-you-are-being-tracked-by-an-airtag-340542-2022-07-06 | Source: Business Today
11:44 TR Bot; How to know if you are being tracked by an AirTag - BusinessToday
11:45 matey; earthlings are naive and simple
11:45 matey; that is true, hivelings, that is true
11:45 matey; but their planet is full of resources
11:45 matey; for our brood, hivelings, for our brood
11:45 matey; when weve enslaved enough humans
11:45 TR News; "she received several direct messages from people who have found they were being tracked by AirTags" https://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/apple-responds-after-hannah-rose-may-s-claim-of-being-tracked-by-airtag-122070500546_1.html | Source: Business Standard
11:45 TR Bot; Apple responds after Hannah Rose May's claim of being tracked by AirTag | Business Standard News
11:45 matey; for our plan, hivelings, for our plan
11:46 matey; we can exterminate all but the workers
11:46 matey; glory to xenu, hivelings
11:46 matey; glory to xenu
11:50 matey; lol
11:50 matey; 18:01 Invasion of the Body Snatchers - Pod People are Jerks That's On Youtube Shared 8 months ago
11:51 psydruid; libresource is a dependency of systemdrain
11:52 matey; stealing someones body and cloning it as part of an alien invasion is such a dick move
11:52 matey; youll notice the code of conduct says nothing about it
11:52 matey; they must condone it then
11:53 matey; after all, the whole point of a code of conduct is to show what you wont stand for
11:54 matey; theyre really very limited as a line in the sand
11:54 matey; though to be fair, being dragged off and replaced with an alien pod might count as "unwanted touching"
11:55 matey; my concern is how thats going to be enforced when the arbitrary team is replaced with pods
11:55 matey; lol
11:55 matey; ARBITRATION
11:55 matey; that was a real typo, just the best ever
noon, July 7
12:00 matey; psydruid mincer https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zb36Ozo-tTY
12:00 TR Bot; I Found The Worst Linux Distro. - Invidious
12:02 matey; still nothing: https://yewtu.be/search?q=systemd+microsoft&page=1&date=week&type=all&duration=none&sort=relevance
12:02 TR Bot; systemd microsoft - Invidious
12:02 *psydruid is going to watch the adventures of the linux body snatchers after the borisnaro story
12:05 matey; /me notes the pengpod.com website no longer exists
12:06 matey; arm-based gnu/linux tablet running an ubuntu deriv (someone made a debian wheezy image) but only android could adjust the backlight
12:06 matey; this is important because the backlight was bright as fuck
12:06 matey; and... the battery life SUCKED
12:07 matey; so if you want a shit-grade tablet that has to stay plugged in with a cheap connector thats falling apart before you even plug it in the first time
12:07 matey; then its no wonder pengpod.com no longer exists
12:07 psydruid; it went out with a peng
12:08 matey; it DID have a mini usb to usb connector that let you connect a mouse or possibly usb storage
12:08 matey; but everything was cheap. the flexible parts were like plastic
12:08 matey; the plastic parts were like rubber
12:09 matey; the glass was like the shell packaging you get collectible figures in
12:09 matey; i dont think it was made in china
12:10 matey; i think it was made in a cheap knockoff of china that china made
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12:11 psydruid; Theresa May may be snatching up Borisnaro's Carcass
12:12 TR News; "U.S. technology giant Apple Inc.'s AirTag location tracker has been found attached to an investigation vehicle" https://www.nippon.com/en/news/yjj2022070600752/ |
12:12 TR Bot; Tracker Attached to Aichi Police Vehicle | Nippon.com
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12:22 TR News; >[Old] "Jessicas setup comprises a Raspberry Pi Zero W with our High Quality Camera" https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-keeps-an-eye-on-freshwater-fishes-in-canada/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
12:22 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi keeps an eye on freshwater fishes in Canada - Raspberry Pi
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12:27 TR News; India https://siliconangle.com/2022/07/05/twitter-suing-indian-government-far-reaching-content-removal-orders/ | Source: Silicon Angle
12:27 TR Bot; is suing the Indian government over far-reaching content removal orders - SiliconANGLE
12:27 TR News; "This is contained in a statement issued by Nkiru Asiegbu, Director, OFIs, CBN." https://techeconomy.ng/2022/07/cbn-sends-a-41-paged-cybersecurity-guidelines-to-ofis/ | Source: TechEconomy.ng
12:27 TR Bot; Sends a 41-Paged Cybersecurity Guidelines to OFIs TechEconomy.ng
12:28 TR News; Twitter profiting from violence https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/07/05/twitter-proud-boys-ban-elon-musk/7778566001/ | Source: Gannett | also see http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/
12:28 TR Bot; Twitter's ban of Proud Boys isn't working. Would Elon Musk reverse it?
12:28 TR Bot; Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights
12:28 TR News; "The suit is the first legal challenge that the company has issued to push back against laws passed in 2021" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/05/business/twitter-india-lawsuit.html | Source: New York Times
12:28 TR Bot; Twitter, Challenging Orders to Remove Content, Sues Indias Government - The New York Times
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12:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:31 psydruid; http://youtube.com/watch?v=9Auq9mYxFEE
12:31 TR Bot; https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=9Auq9mYxFEE
12:31 TR Bot; inv.riverside.rocks | Watch Sky News live - Invidious
12:32 psydruid; Borisnaro resigns to his fate
12:34 TR News; "There is wide agreement across the federal government that coordinated disinformation campaigns threaten to exacerbate public health emergencies, stoke ethnic and racial divisions and even undermine democracy itself." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/06/business/disinformation-board-dc.html | Source: New York Times
12:34 TR Bot; Disinformation Has Become Another Untouchable Problem in Washington - The New York Times
12:34 TR News; "It's crazy right now. Russia is incredibly active on Arabic TikTok" https://yle.fi/news/3-12525251 | Source: YLE
12:34 TR Bot; Disinformation campaigns target Finland's foreign language speakers, Nato fears | News | Yle Uutiset
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12:44 TR News; Ofcom UK https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2022/07/ofcom-sets-out-uk-internet-censorship-plans-under-safety-bill.html | Source: ISPreview
12:44 TR Bot; Ofcom Sets Out UK Internet Censorship Plans Under Safety Bill - ISPreview UK
12:47 TR News; iophk: just like the techniques used in a lot of videos in recent years :/ """It is all designed to be, one, shared; two, completely incomprehensible to anyone like us who are looking onto it; and three, to be a way of breaking down a person's natural reluctance to commit violence," said Newhouse. "It is designed to break a person's brain.""" https://text.npr.org/1110013040
12:47 TR Bot; Why the Highland Park suspect represents a different kind of violent extremism
12:48 TR News; iophk: a "former" microsofter... now acting as a mole and picking up money from another company... to still work for Microsoft from within https://itwire.com/it-people-news/people-moves/logicalis-engages-antoniou-as-microsoft-engagement-manager.html
12:48 TR Bot; - Logicalis engages Antoniou as Microsoft engagement manager
12:48 TR News; Three ways to patch your thinking about open-source software security - SiliconANGLE https://siliconangle.com/2022/07/04/three-ways-patch-thinking-open-source-software-security/ Source: siliconangle
12:48 TR Bot; ways to patch your thinking about open-source software security - SiliconANGLE
12:50 TR News; The Eponymous Pickle: UK Says No to AI Patents https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2022/07/uk-says-no-to-ai-patents.html Source: eponymouspickle
12:50 TR Bot; The Eponymous Pickle: UK Says No to AI Patents
12:51 TR News; iophk: presenting a (Microsoft) lobbyist as an authority on computer security https://www.cyberscoop.com/cybersecurity-experts-question-microsofts-ukraine-report/
12:51 TR Bot; experts question Microsoft's Ukraine report - CyberScoop
12:51 TR News; Bezos Post presenting a lobbyist as an authority on computer security https://www.washingtonpost.com/podcasts/post-live/brad-smith-on-cybersecurity-and-microsofts-role-in-aiding-ukraine-against-russian-cyberattacks/~
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12:52 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.washingtonpost.com/podcasts/post-live/brad-smith-on-cybersecurity-and-microsofts-role-in-aiding-ukraine-against-russian-cyberattacks/~/ )
12:52 TR News; iophk: a push coming from RH, home of Microsoft systemd; GTK5 Might Be Wayland Only! Xorg Is Seething https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/gtk5-might-be-wayland-only!-xorg-is:9 Source: BrodieRobertson
12:52 TR Bot; GTK5 Might Be Wayland Only! Xorg Is Seething
12:52 TR News; How to Beat Google at its Tracking Game https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/beatgoogle:c Source: RobBraxmanTech
12:52 TR Bot; How to Beat Google at its Tracking Game
12:53 TR News; SparkyLinux 2022.07 Arrives with Linux Kernel 5.18, New Packages, and Other Changes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166948
12:53 TR Bot; SparkyLinux 2022.07 Arrives with Linux Kernel 5.18, New Packages, and Other Changes | Tux Machines
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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13:00 MinceR; 07 130053 < matey> psydruid mincer https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zb36Ozo-tTY
13:00 TR Bot; I Found The Worst Linux Distro. - Invidious
13:01 MinceR; i thought it would just be windows with WSL2
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13:02 psydruid; the best job in the world done by the best Linux distro in the world
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13:03 schestowitz[TR]; WSLg failed
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; let's try WSLd
13:03 MinceR; :>
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; systemd-wsld
13:03 MinceR; lol
13:03 MinceR; systemd-windowsd
13:03 MinceR; "let's try it the other way around!"
13:04 schestowitz[TR]; systemd-sold to Microsoft
13:04 schestowitz[TR]; das ist nicht FUNNY!
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13:07 MinceR; lol, they even replicated the Backdoors10 "feature" of just randomly rebooting without asking the user
13:10 psydruid; systemd-rebootd
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13:12 MinceR; they even have integrated spyware
13:12 MinceR; very "modern"
13:13 MinceR; poettering would love "linuxfx"
13:14 schestowitz[TR]; it already uses his system
13:14 schestowitz[TR]; systemdefective
13:14 MinceR; yeah, but it builds on that
13:14 schestowitz[TR]; it's a brasillian skinned lennox
13:15 MinceR; Lennox, South Dakota?
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13:26 sm4rt1; https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/07/06/2348255/systemd-creator-lands-at-microsoft
13:26 TR Bot; Systemd Creator Lands At Microsoft - Slashdot
13:29 TR News; KDE Gear 22.04.3 Brings More Bug Fixes to Kdenlive, Konsole, and Other Apps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166949
13:29 TR Bot; KDE Gear 22.04.3 Brings More Bug Fixes to Kdenlive, Konsole, and Other Apps | Tux Machines
13:30 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft systemd
13:31 TR News; Monopolies of criminals from Microsoft, who attack everything they can (in the most nefarious ways conceivable) as nobody enforces the law https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/microsoft-activision-blizzard-uk-antitrust-regulatory-probe-1235309931/ | Source: Variety
13:31 TR Bot; Blizzard Deal Faces U.K. Antitrust Probe - Variety
13:31 TR News; "If the CMA decides the deal is anti-competitive, then it would conduct a more in-depth assessment" https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2022-07-06-uk-regulator-investigating-microsoft-activision-blizzard-acquisition | Source: Games
13:31 TR Bot; regulator investigating Microsoft-Activision Blizzard acquisition | GamesIndustry.biz
13:32 TR News; "If approved, the acquisition would have huge implications for the $190 billion video game industry" https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/06/microsofts-69-billion-activision-takeover-faces-competition-probe-in-the-uk.html | Source: CNBC
13:32 TR Bot; Microsoft Activision takeover faces competition probe in the UK
13:32 TR News; It's about vendor lockin https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/microsofts-activision-blizzard-bid-faces-uk-antitrust-probe/2022/07/06/7bf15636-fd29-11ec-b39d-71309168014b_story.html | Source: The Washington Post
13:32 TR News; "The U.K. watchdog will seek feedback on the acquisition from interested parties until July 20" https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/microsofts-blizzard-activision-bid-faces-uk-antitrust-probe-86296692 | Source: ABC
13:32 TR Bot; Microsoft's Activision Blizzard bid faces UK antitrust probe - The Washington Post
13:32 TR Bot; Microsoft's Activision Blizzard bid faces UK antitrust probe - ABC News
13:33 TR News; Common sense https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61896180 | Source: BillBC, protector of pedophiles like Jimmy Savile and Jeffrey Epstein's circle
13:33 TR Bot; UK decides AI still cannot patent inventions - BBC News
13:34 TR News; "All that may sound pretty straight forward but the devil is in the details, as always." https://puri.sm/posts/unleashing-the-librem-14/ | Source: Purism
13:34 TR Bot; Unleashing the Librem 14 Purism
13:34 TR News; "For new users to openSUSE, OpenSUSE Leap is a better fit since the software provided is thoroughly tested." https://www.tecmint.com/install-opensuse-tumbleweed/ | Source: TecMint
13:34 TR Bot; How to Install openSUSE Tumbleweed [Rolling Release] Linux
13:35 TR News; "The first product that Axzes announced is the Interceptor 1U Case which is made of aluminum" https://linuxgizmos.com/axzez-releases-news-for-interceptor-board-accessories/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
13:35 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/axzez-releases-news-for-interceptor-board-accessories/ )
13:35 TR News; "The NUC 1200 BOX Series comes in a compact case (110.0 x 117.5 x 47.85mm) and integrates the following processors" https://linuxgizmos.com/nuc-1200-box-ibox-1200-feature-12th-gen-lake-p-processors/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
13:35 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/nuc-1200-box-ibox-1200-feature-12th-gen-lake-p-processors/ )
13:36 TR News; "WordPress is a very popular CMS and it remains the easiest and best open-source application to build websites." https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-wordpress-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: RoseHosting
13:36 TR Bot; to Install WordPress on Ubuntu 22.04 - RoseHosting
13:37 TR News; "Red Hat Satellite is part of the Red Hat Smart Management subscription that makes it easier for enterprises to manage patching" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-satellite-6107-has-been-released | Source: Red Hat Official
13:37 TR Bot; Red Hat Satellite 6.10.7 has been released
13:47 TR News; "doesn't exist" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/doesnt-exist-a-modern-text-adventure-is-one-you-need-to-try/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:47 TR Bot; exist - a modern text adventure is one you need to try | GamingOnLinux
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13:47 TR News; "Nomad Survival" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/nomad-survival-is-another-great-cheap-vampire-survivors-styled-game/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:47 TR Bot; Survival is another great cheap Vampire Survivors styled game | GamingOnLinux
13:47 TR News; Free/libre software: OpenRCT2 https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/openrct2-the-re-implementation-of-rollercoaster-tycoon-2-upgraded/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:47 TR Bot; the re-implementation of RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 upgraded | GamingOnLinux
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13:51 TR News; SNES https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/06/project-to-digitize-every-snes-game-manual-now-complete/ | Source: Techdirt
13:51 TR Bot; To Digitize Every SNES Game Manual Now Complete | Techdirt
13:51 TR News; "Wrought Flesh is a game where you run around and pinch the organs of downed enemies to upgrade your body." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/organ-swapping-fps-wrought-flesh-gets-a-huge-free-update/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:51 TR Bot; swapping FPS 'Wrought Flesh' gets a huge free update | GamingOnLinux
13:52 TR News; winesapOS https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/winesapos-is-another-way-to-get-something-like-steamos-on-desktop/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:52 TR Bot; is another way to get something like SteamOS on desktop | GamingOnLinux
13:52 TR News; "Native GNU/Linux support on August 2nd." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/colourful-3d-platformer-frogun-releases-august-2nd/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:52 TR Bot; 3D platformer Frogun releases August 2nd | GamingOnLinux
13:52 TR News; Celebrating DRM https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/mark-your-calendars-steam-next-fest-returns-in-october-2022/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:52 TR Bot; your calendars, Steam Next Fest returns in October 2022 | GamingOnLinux
13:53 TR News; The Forgotten World https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/the-forgotten-world-free-update-out-for-monster-sanctuary/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:53 TR Bot; Forgotten World free update out for Monster Sanctuary | GamingOnLinux
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13:55 TR News; "encountered the ever-present headphone problem with their Sennheiser Urbanite headphones the cable broke." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/06/headphone-cable-trouble-inspires-bluetooth-conversion/ | Source: Hackaday
13:55 TR Bot; Cable Trouble Inspires Bluetooth Conversion | Hackaday
2 PM, July 7
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14:01 TR News; Pocket Radio https://hackaday.com/2022/07/06/pocket-radio-powered-by-tiny-microcontroller/ | Source: Hackaday
14:01 TR Bot; Radio Powered By Tiny Microcontroller | Hackaday
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14:10 TR News; Announcing tsvutils gemini://sotiris.papatheodorou.xyz/gemlog/20220707_announcing_tsvutils.gmi
14:11 TR News; "I was wondering if anyone has seen any interesting retro devices running the gemini or gopher protocol. I write regularly on my Psion 5MX and love the idea of being able to browse the smolweb on such a form factor." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1061
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14:13 schestowitz; "If I have time Ill mention that theres a lot of toxicity on there and Ill get into how moderation works.
14:13 schestowitz; The technical detail I gloss over is that Mastodon is a hosted server-side application and that there are many Mastodon servers." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/what-fedi-is
14:18 psydroid2; https://youtu.be/-cEdT-mCFYs
14:18 TR Bot; https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=-cEdT-mCFYs
14:18 TR Bot; invidio.xamh.de | Corporate America Is Adult Day Care - Invidious
14:22 TR News; Links 07/07/2022: SparkyLinux 2022.07 and KDE Gear 22.04.3 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/kde-gear-22-04-3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/07/kde-gear-22-04-3/
14:22 TR Bot; Links 07/07/2022: SparkyLinux 2022.07 and KDE Gear 22.04.3 | Techrights
14:23 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166950
14:23 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:23 TR News; Fedora / IBM Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166951
14:23 TR Bot; Fedora / IBM Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:23 TR News; Games: Nomad Survival ,OpenRCT2, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166952
14:23 TR Bot; Games: Nomad Survival ,OpenRCT2, and More | Tux Machines
14:23 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166953
14:23 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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14:45 psydroid2; https://old.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/vrtwlj/secure_boot_locked_to_microsoft_on_newer_computers/
14:45 TR Bot; Secure boot locked to Microsoft on newer computers : windows
14:45 psydroid2; I guess things are getting really dire now
14:45 psydroid2; and HP is their loyal partner in crime
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15:04 MinceR; i miss the closest approximation to market economy we've ever had
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15:12 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/seeabutterfly.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-seeabutterfly#comic )
15:12 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
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15:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:52 TR News; SpellBinding: BEIOYTS Wordo: CORNS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-07-07.gmi
15:54 TR News; "Capitalism, a system that gives preference to capital over people's needs, is clearly not something to be proud of. Often confused with 'free-market', capitalism is anything but free market." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-07-07.corp.gmi
15:55 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: we have the domain and prototype running, but need to deploy to a public IP address. Still need to implement RSS feeds.
4 PM, July 7
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16:26 SomeH4x0r; hi
16:26 matey; hi
16:28 matey; still waiting for tr to move past memes and innuendo to information on this systemd-microsoftd thing
16:28 matey; since there appears to be nothing on the internet about it
16:28 matey; the big reveal
16:28 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CnAodhcsmUs
16:28 TR Bot; UHF - Wheel of Fish - The box - Nothing absolutely nothing - Stupid - Kuni - 80s - Invidious
16:29 matey; /me still thinks its fishy
16:33 matey; mincer you will never believe who audtioned for terri in uhf
16:34 matey; /me assumes mincer knows the weird al movie
16:34 MinceR; i haven't seen it yet, but i know that it exists
16:34 matey; first of all, the person they wanted for terri wasnt victoria jackson, but someone with a similarly funny voice
16:34 matey; jennifer tilly
16:34 matey; kind of a shame then
16:35 matey; but the best part is, ellen degeneres auditioned
16:35 matey; weird al has a vhs tape somewhere of ellen auditioning for terri in uhf
16:36 matey; her comedic acting is so deadpan though, they might as well put bob newhart in a wig
16:36 matey; /me wonders if weird al has a vhs of that too
16:46 TR News; Pro Publica talking these people down regarding tax while bagging BRIBES from the famous criminal Bill Gates https://www.propublica.org/article/ken-griffin-illinois-graduated-income-tax
16:46 TR Bot; Why Citadels Ken Griffin Spent $54 Million To Defeat an Illinois Tax Increase ProPublica
16:47 TR News; Chinas Surveillance State https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/07/chinas-surveillance-state-and-its-meaning-for-us/ | Source: Counter Punch
16:47 TR Bot; Surveillance State and its Meaning for Us - CounterPunch.org
16:50 TR News; "The Creative Commons Open Education Platform community will offer our next round of Lightning Talks" https://creativecommons.org/2022/07/06/join-us-for-our-next-round-of-cc-open-education-platform-lightning-talks/ | Source: Creative Commons
16:50 TR Bot; Join us for our next round of CC Open Education Platform Lightning Talks! - Creative Commons
16:56 TR News; Fedora 37 Plans for Unfiltered Access to all Flathub Apps http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166954 Source: tuxmachines
16:56 TR Bot; Fedora 37 Plans for Unfiltered Access to all Flathub Apps | Tux Machines
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17:14 TR News; FTC https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/06/ftc-hits-harley-davidson-on-right-to-repair/ | Source: Techdirt
17:14 TR Bot; Hits Harley-Davidson On Right To Repair | Techdirt
17:17 TR News; China and censorship https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/06/chinas-internet-censorship-regime-could-soon-include-mind-reading-anti-porn-helmets/ | Source: Techdirt
17:17 TR Bot; Internet Censorship Regime Could Soon Include Mind-Reading Anti-Porn Helmets | Techdirt
17:20 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166955
17:20 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
17:28 TR News; "Do It Fora Better WEB!" But EFF helps Microsoft and people who attack your privacy and your rights... something ain't right. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/07/do-it-love-wild-web | Source: EFF
17:28 TR Bot; For the Love of the Wild Web | Electronic Frontier Foundation
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17:32 TR News; "Anti-piracy lawyer Kerry Culpepper has secured three $250,000 judgments against operators of sites and apps that used the YTS trademark his company owns." https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-lawyer-wins-unique-yts-trademark-case-against-pirate-sites-apps-220706/ | Source: Torrent Freak
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17:32 TR Bot; Lawyer Wins Unique YTS Trademark Case Against Pirate Sites & Apps * TorrentFreak
17:32 TR News; "Rightsholder groups are calling on the UK government to do more to prevent pirates from operating anonymously online." https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-openload-piracy-investigation-hit-dead-end-due-to-fake-customer-info-220706/ | Source: Torrent Freak
17:32 TR Bot; Openload Piracy Investigation Hit "Dead End" Due to Fake Customer Info * TorrentFreak
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17:46 TR News; Oxfam https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/06/broken-capitalist-food-system-drives-soaring-global-hunger-oxfam | Source: Common Dreams
17:46 TR Bot; 'Broken' Capitalist Food System Drives Soaring Global Hunger: Oxfam
17:49 TR News; "It is no secret that I have a few things permanently burned into my neurons: the 1802 instruction set, the commands for WordStar" https://hackaday.com/2022/07/06/linux-fu-the-browser-emacs-fusion/ | Source: Hackaday
17:49 TR Bot; Fu: The Browser Emacs Fusion | Hackaday
17:51 TR News; The forints plunge continues https://telex.hu/english/2022/07/06/the-forints-plunge-continues-1-euro-worth-412-forints-and-1-usd-worth-403-forints | Source: Telex (Hungary)
17:51 TR Bot; Telex: The forints plunge continues: 1 euro worth 412 forints, and 1 USD worth 403 forints
6 PM, July 7
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18:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Figure this was the long term plan?
18:02 DaemonFC; Microsoft sponsoring Red Hat to do systemd and swallow everything, and then take it over directly?
18:03 schestowitz[TR]; happened before
18:03 schestowitz[TR]; it was called novell (sponsored)
18:03 schestowitz[TR]; and the trojan horse was called mono
18:03 schestowitz[TR]; it didn't work out
18:04 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: I want to write more today, but we develop a new CMS for Tux Machines
18:04 schestowitz[TR]; maybe we'll use the same for TR later
18:05 DaemonFC; One that's not a glutton for resources hopefully.
18:05 schestowitz[TR]; no, opposite
18:05 schestowitz[TR]; super-minimalism
18:06 schestowitz[TR]; the code to make the front page is like 5 lines of code
18:06 schestowitz[TR]; all the pages are static html files
18:06 schestowitz[TR]; with templates imported
18:06 schestowitz[TR]; and rss feeds processing
18:06 schestowitz[TR]; it's running on a pi on a home network for testing at the moment
18:07 DaemonFC; Good. The last ones had a bunch of (bad) CSS and some JavaScripts that I don't know what they did because it didn't look different of they were off, and Social Media buttons.
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; until Ariadne finds time to set up a machine
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: social control media is a waste of time
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; because many become inactive or less active
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; it's well past its poeak
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; so now it's just provoking people
18:09 TR News; Commodore 64 https://hackaday.com/2022/07/06/tensorflow-lite-on-a-commodore-64/ | Source: Hackaday
18:09 TR Bot; Lite On A Commodore 64 | Hackaday
18:12 TR News; "All Empires end in ignominy. The United Kingdom is drawing to a close, not with a bang but with a fart." https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/07/the-death-of-the-british-imperial-state/ | Source: Craig Murray
18:12 TR Bot; The Death of the British Imperial State - Craig Murray
18:12 TR News; "What is going on in European politics today is completely disconnected from reality." https://telex.hu/english/2022/07/07/kover-the-debate-on-the-future-of-the-eu-is-about-how-to-become-a-stooge-for-the-us | Source: Telex (Hungary)
18:12 TR Bot; Telex: Kvr: The debate on the future of the EU is about how to become a stooge for the USA
18:13 DaemonFC; This woke bullshit is just completely out of control.
18:13 schestowitz[TR]; which one?
18:13 schestowitz[TR]; woke is too vague a term
18:13 DaemonFC; There's a commercial that just went by for pancakes.
18:13 DaemonFC; I have the TV on in here for background noise.
18:14 DaemonFC; They renamed Aunt Jemima pancakes and now they still say "Formerly Aunt Jemima" with the black lady in the corner because nobody knows what the fuck their new brand is, even 2 years later.
18:14 DaemonFC; I don't even buy them though. Boxed pancake mixes are all the same and I only use maple syrup.
18:15 schestowitz[TR]; Aunt Jemima = good at cuisine
18:15 schestowitz[TR]; took them ages to build that brand
18:15 schestowitz[TR]; I doubt it's offnensive
18:15 DaemonFC; Why is it racist to put a black woman on a brand of pancakes? Or a black man on a brand of rice?
18:15 schestowitz[TR]; centuries ago no "Aunt Jemima" would even be named on foods
18:15 schestowitz[TR]; becauee "Aunt"
18:15 schestowitz[TR]; is uncle bens still allowed?
18:15 DaemonFC; No.
18:16 DaemonFC; Now it's "Ben's Original" with no black guy.
18:16 DaemonFC; So they're "not racist" because they took black people off the box?
18:16 schestowitz[TR]; the media still says "prince andrew;'
18:16 DaemonFC; This is the sort of thinking that has infested corporate America.
18:17 schestowitz[TR]; Ben's reminded me of Louis Armstrong
18:17 schestowitz[TR]; strong vocalists who were black helped shake off the stigma
18:17 DaemonFC; Yeah. I haven't bought any of their rice since they did that.
18:17 schestowitz[TR]; and they showed they're smart and capable
18:18 DaemonFC; I still have a bunch of "Uncle Ben's" because they were basically giving it away to get rid of it to switch branding.
18:18 DaemonFC; Millions of boxes and pouches, I'm sure.
18:18 DaemonFC; That cost them a lot of money for no reason.
18:19 schestowitz[TR]; racism stays
18:19 schestowitz[TR]; you have to admire the will to end racism
18:19 schestowitz[TR]; but these are token steps
18:19 DaemonFC; Mandy has the TV on some sort of deer hunting show. I loved Ron White's routines.
18:19 schestowitz[TR]; like forcing people to rewrite many scripts and code to not say "master"
18:20 schestowitz[TR]; did the rapper Master P also rename
18:20 schestowitz[TR]; to "the artist"
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18:20 schestowitz[TR]; formerly known as "price"?
18:20 schestowitz[TR]; *prince
18:20 DaemonFC; "I hit one with a vaaaaaaan.......at 55 miles an hour with the high beams on and the horn blowin'. That's a real elusive creature right there.".
18:20 DaemonFC; "If you ever have any trouble with those, just slow the bullets down to 55 and put a little horn and some headlights on them."
18:21 TR News; Facebook https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/06/now-that-rupert-murdoch-has-convinced-governments-to-force-facebook-to-pay-for-news-facebook-no-longer-wants-anything-to-do-with-news/ | Source: Techdirt
18:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], One was looking at us the other day when we came out of the pool in the middle of the night. Just over there staring at us.
18:21 TR Bot; That Rupert Murdoch Has Convinced Governments To Force Facebook To Pay For News, Facebook No Longer Wants Anything To Do With News | Techdirt
18:21 DaemonFC; Those things have no fear at all. I mean, if it was allowed to have guns back here, you just shoot the thing and take it home with you.
18:21 DaemonFC; "Deer Hunter"
18:22 TR News; "It truly is incredible just how much of a moral panic the media and politicians have created around social [control] media." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/06/the-moral-panic-is-spreading-think-tank-proposes-banning-teens-from-social-media/ | Source: Techdirt
18:22 TR Bot; Moral Panic Is Spreading: Think Tank Proposes Banning Teens From Social Media; Texas Rep Promises To Intro Bill | Techdirt
18:22 DaemonFC; It's a really really bad idea to drive on a rural highway at night if you don't have to.
18:23 TR News; "A common enough microcontroller project is to create some form of logic analyzer." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/07/pico-makes-capable-logic-analyzer/ | Source: Hackaday
18:23 TR Bot; Makes Capable Logic Analyzer | Hackaday
18:23 DaemonFC; All of the liberal pussies have made hunting so difficult that the deer are everywhere for you to hit with your car.
18:23 DaemonFC; Competing with each other for food and then starving to death.
18:23 TR News; "If pay for workers increases, wont that increase consumption (unless its stolen back through inflation)..." https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/06/video-ask-prof-wolff-carbon-emissions-consumption-and-wages/ | Source: Scheerpost
18:23 TR Bot; Ask Prof Wolff: Carbon Emissions, Consumption, and Wages scheerpost.com
18:24 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: yoiu are describing humans
18:24 schestowitz[TR]; competing for food now
18:24 schestowitz[TR]; with soaring prices
18:24 schestowitz[TR]; there used to be more flora
18:24 DaemonFC; Yep.
18:24 schestowitz[TR]; but humans expannnnd and take away more forest space
18:25 DaemonFC; Meanwhile, if you go to the Gates-funded museums in Chicago, they talk about building skyscraper greenhouses to farm in.
18:25 DaemonFC; They already have 5 Sears Towers worth of empty offices in Chicago.
18:25 DaemonFC; And they just sit there, empty, decaying, air conditioned with nobody in them.
18:25 TR News; "You might recognize [Robert Dunn] from his YouTube channel Aging Wheels, where he hacks on all sorts of automotive delights" https://hackaday.com/2022/07/06/diy-chicken-mcmansion-is-a-real-hen-house/ | Source: Hackaday
18:25 TR Bot; Chicken McMansion Is A Real Hen House | Hackaday
18:25 DaemonFC; Hell, it's probably 6 by now, and they have another towere going up.
18:26 DaemonFC; It's a mirage, schestowitz[TR]
18:26 schestowitz[TR]; buildings ruin natture
18:26 schestowitz[TR]; if you want to help the planet
18:26 schestowitz[TR]; then build fewer of them
18:26 DaemonFC; Illusion of a prosperous city while all of the real businesses move out because they can't stand it anymore and some other state offers them a better deal.
18:26 schestowitz[TR]; but it's a race for capital
18:26 DaemonFC; Like Caterpillar leaving for Texas.
18:26 schestowitz[TR]; converting nature into "assets"
18:27 DaemonFC; Immediately? They only cost us 200 jobs. Long term? Perhaps up to 60,000.
18:27 DaemonFC; If they leave and take everything with them.
18:27 DaemonFC; The government here is fucking retarded.
18:27 DaemonFC; The only worse politicians come from where mjg59_ lives.
18:27 DaemonFC; Nancy Pelosi.
18:28 schestowitz[TR]; her husband is a Microsoft shareholder
18:28 schestowitz[TR]; propping up these criminals
18:28 schestowitz[TR]; for personal gain
18:29 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I told Richard Stallman this:
18:29 DaemonFC; "Gun control" is mostly a rhetorical set of fantasy documents, like most laws. You've no doubt seen that politicians really like bill signings where they say that they'll control the weather, ban guns, and fix the economy, all before lunch. There's actually a book about government documents like this called "Mission Improbable: Using Fantasy Documents to Tame Disaster".
18:29 DaemonFC; Ironically, the book was published three months before September 11th, 2001.
18:29 DaemonFC;
18:29 DaemonFC; It mostly covers how the government documents for continuity of government in the face of disaster claim to work. Three months later, everything turned into a real shitshow where nobody knew what to do and nobody was in any rush to get the President anywhere.
18:29 DaemonFC; The point expands, I think, to most things the government claims it will do. Like how California will ban gasoline engines by 2035. 2035 will probably get here, and the ban will be "too economically painful", and they'll either repeal it or keep delaying it "another 5 years" and it will just become another fantasy document.
18:29 DaemonFC; In most real world examples, the government is better at preventing economic activity and jobs growth, and those tend to happen more when the government gets out of the way and lets it happen. In which case, the government figures come out and congratulate themselves for doing nothing to prevent it and claim it could never have happened without them.
18:29 DaemonFC; So government is sort of an absurdity all around, isn't it?
18:29 TR News; Links 07/07/2022: Mostly Political Leftovers | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/political-leftovers/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/07/political-leftovers/
18:29 TR Bot; Links 07/07/2022: Mostly Political Leftovers | Techrights
18:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The government doesn't have any money. It had the power to take from some and give to others.
18:31 DaemonFC; Not efficiently, either.
18:31 TR News; Individualism and Beauty In Ego Death gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-07-07-lucky.gmi "The longer one thinks about it, the more existantially uncomfortable one becomes."
18:31 DaemonFC; Usually through a corrupt apparatus of bureaucrats.
18:31 *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: trust issues)
18:32 DaemonFC; Indiana politicians are mostly Republicans. They have no use for extra government workers and especially not ones in soem Communist labor union, to harvest votes from.
18:32 DaemonFC; Illinois has like 3 government workers per government worker in Indiana, adjusted for population? Why?
18:32 DaemonFC; The Democrats can take my money, give it to these retards for doing fuck all, and harvest votes.
18:32 schestowitz[TR]; this is going off topic
18:32 schestowitz[TR]; I'll leave it at that...
18:32 DaemonFC; And I'm sure it's about like that in all of the blue states.
18:33 DaemonFC; Well, Stallman seems to be in the camp that "government solves problems" even though it's never demonstrated that it can or will.
18:34 DaemonFC; The government is a puppet of corporations, but is also interested in its own power, keeping it and expanding it when possible, and the way it does that is via cruel manipulation of the public.
18:34 DaemonFC; This involves brainwashing them into paying taxes and then being grateful when they get a little of their own money back with conditions on how to spend it while the rest goes to fraud and waste.
18:34 TR News; Microsoft systemd, not Linux https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-red-hat-responded-pwnkit-vulnerability
18:34 TR Bot; How Red Hat responded to the PwnKit vulnerability
18:35 DaemonFC; When the government passes a law, say abortion or gun control, it has its own reasons as well. Red Flag laws are going in no matter the political climate of the state.
18:35 TR News; Liars. IBM is so greedy that it literally worked for Hitler. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/community-heart-red-hat
18:35 DaemonFC; Who will they disarm? They find all the people who dislike government and find reasons why they are "crazy" and need to be disarmed.
18:35 TR Bot; Community is at the heart of Red Hat
18:36 DaemonFC; Why do they want to ban abortion? They want to promise our hostile foreign creditors that there will be more people to work and pay taxes, and if there are more people who need jobs, they'll be at each other's throats over them keeping wages down.
18:36 TR News; 5G = big phat hype https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-and-cablelabs-enable-5g-and-hfc-convergence-multi-tenancy-edge
18:36 TR Bot; Red Hat and CableLabs enable 5G and HFC convergence with multi-tenancy at the edge
18:36 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Did you see the news about the Georgia Guidestones being blown up this morning?
18:37 DaemonFC; Dad was always pointing to those as some sort of conspiracy to depopulate the Earth.
18:37 TR News; Sparky 2022.07 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166948#comment-34270
18:37 TR Bot; SparkyLinux 2022.07 Arrives with Linux Kernel 5.18, New Packages, and Other Changes | Tux Machines
18:37 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> and the trojan horse was called mono <schestowitz[TR]> it didn't work out
18:37 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> maybe we'll use the same for TR later <- techrights?
18:38 TR News; Security updates for Thursday https://lwn.net/Articles/900286/
18:38 TR Bot; updates for Thursday [LWN.net]
18:38 schestowitz[TR]; matey: yes, static pages
18:38 schestowitz[TR]; far more efficent
18:38 schestowitz[TR]; the databases are humoungous
18:38 schestowitz[TR]; *humongous
18:38 schestowitz[TR]; the wordpress DB of techrights is also 10gb.. text
18:39 schestowitz[TR]; it might still work, but...
18:39 matey; if a db is text, a tar.gz is also text
18:39 schestowitz[TR]; as Ariadne points out, it's becoming a resource hoard
18:39 schestowitz[TR]; db can be expored as text
18:40 Ariadne; the problem is more tuxmachines i think
18:40 schestowitz[TR]; and then it's statements that create the tables
18:40 matey; buildings ruin natture <- they dont have to
18:40 Ariadne; wordpress there's wp-cache and some other things i've set up
18:40 matey; anthills are buidings. so are pueblos
18:40 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: yes, all the pages will be html files
18:40 Ariadne; for drupal, it's a shitshow
18:40 *techrights_guest|61 (~9246316a@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights
18:40 DaemonFC; There are a lot of database formats that are not really meant to expand that much and you're lucky if they work at all by then and many of them have internal corruption issues.
18:40 matey; you can make buildings that are closer to natural formations
18:40 Ariadne; the drupal on tuxmachines is also quite old
18:40 DaemonFC; Firefox databases are pretty bad and that's just a cache folder.
18:40 matey; the its no different than what beavers do
18:41 matey; they dont give a dam
18:41 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: yes, it is,, and drupal is not simple to upgrade if one has many modules
18:41 schestowitz[TR]; each x.0.0 branch upgrade is a major project
18:41 techrights_guest|61; http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/gemini-incoming-links/ . this is amazing!
18:41 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/2022/07/04/gemini-incoming-links/ )
18:41 matey; of course some dams are extremely dam-aging
18:41 schestowitz[TR]; hi, techrights_guest|61
18:42 matey; it depends on the size, design and purpose
18:42 TR News; Microsoft boosters are pimping WSL again. So you know ti's BAD for the "L" and good for the "W".
18:42 techrights_guest|61; hi. thanks for keeping the posts updated on Gemini.
18:43 TR News; 10 Great KDE Apps for Everyone [Part 2] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166956
18:43 TR Bot; 10 Great KDE Apps for Everyone [Part 2] | Tux Machines
18:43 schestowitz[TR]; no problem
18:43 schestowitz[TR]; we have a whole section for gemini in Daily Liinks
18:43 matey; if youd like to be a guest on our programme, call us for free tickets. +44 (0) 23 92 56 1000 (subject to availability)
18:43 DaemonFC; Everywhere you go now, there's an infiltrator going "Oh I just installed Ubuntu in WSL, so I don't even need Linux now.".
18:43 schestowitz; or gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:44 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/political-leftovers/#m0717280219
18:44 TR Bot; Links 07/07/2022: Mostly Political Leftovers | Techrights
18:44 techrights_guest|61; I have the rss plugged into liferea I pul it in daily.
18:44 techrights_guest|61; spot of good news. its nice.
18:44 schestowitz[TR]; cool
18:45 TR News; "We cover events and user groups that are running in France. This article forms part of our Linux Around The World series." https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-france/
18:45 TR Bot; Around The World: France - LinuxLinks
18:46 TR News; KDE Gear 22.04.3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166949#new
18:46 TR Bot; KDE Gear 22.04.3 Brings More Bug Fixes to Kdenlive, Konsole, and Other Apps | Tux Machines
18:46 TR News; Qt Creator 8 RC released https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-creator-8-rc-released if only it was Free software...
18:46 TR Bot; Qt Creator 8 RC released
18:47 psydroid2; infiltrators are known to lie to please their masters
18:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The layoffs will hit WSL eventually.
18:48 DaemonFC; It's inevitable.
18:48 techrights_guest|61; I read alot. I have read a goo dchunk of the posts 2006-2009. there was one post where a user commented on "making linux more user friendy like apple" in one of the posts. I think that is one of the driving forces in the divide between realistic expectations and doing the work to get there. those ready made devices, are ready, the user has to
18:48 techrights_guest|61; do no work, but they get the reward a at once. this creates the expectation they have to do nothing and it just all works. I think this expectation of unrealistic proportions is a big driver in peoples ability to move to linux. they expect it all at once, and expect not to do anything to get there.
18:48 TR News; "I havent spent much time at my computer for a long time now. Partly because Im busy with life in general, but also because I havent enjoyed computers (or technology in general) for a while now. Theres just so much crap out there these days, thats killing all the fun for me." https://hund.tty1.se/2022/07/07/a-small-status-update.html
18:48 TR Bot; A small status update | Hund
18:48 matey; original: program or be programmed
18:49 matey; now: fork or be f**ked
18:49 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: maybe alrady have
18:49 schestowitz[TR]; they keep tight-lipped
18:49 schestowitz[TR]; I heard from inside Microsoft it's grim
18:49 schestowitz[TR]; they're not hiring
18:49 schestowitz[TR]; Micro Larabel lies for them
18:49 schestowitz[TR]; pretending they hire loads of "Linux" people
18:49 matey; they expect it all at once <- this is what happens when marketers tell people to expect products
18:49 schestowitz[TR]; but then again I gave up on him this past February
18:49 matey; ultimately volunteers are treated like employees
18:50 matey; thats hardly fair when they 1. used to work for themselves 2. still dont get paid 3. are no longer free
18:50 matey; and now the competition controls the project.
18:50 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights_guest|61> some ry to move for the wrong reasons
18:50 matey; but no one complains, and most that do, dont really care
18:50 schestowitz[TR]; the media is not helping them
18:50 matey; yeah the news is shit
18:51 matey; the tech press are sellouts
18:51 matey; and bloggers rarely make things better
18:51 DaemonFC; Tut tut, looks like rain. I think we'll go for an early dinner and then I'll come back and use the hot tub.
18:51 matey; the big media doesnt even know whats going on, and theyre owned by microsoft
18:51 DaemonFC; It's nice to just be able to be outside without worrying that someone will shoot you.
18:51 matey; the tech press are busy trying to be big media, so they run the same bullshit
18:52 matey; and the bloggers suck up to the corporations taking over
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; it's "safe"
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; (they thinlk)
18:52 matey; its a proper fuckfest
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; don't worry, death angle will get around to them too
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; they fool themselves
18:52 matey; they sure do
18:52 techrights_guest|61; i am learning this, how do i quote a response?
18:52 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The price to go on a vacation has actually collapsed.
18:53 DaemonFC; They're doing entire weeks now for like half off.
18:53 matey; /me thinks if they ever have a real free software / libre computing convention, it should be called forkfest
18:53 matey; if its forkable its probably free
18:53 matey; if its not forkable, its probably not free
18:53 DaemonFC; This November, I'm thinking about booking a condo in the Smokey Mountains for like $300. It's almost nothing. They struggle to just keep things booked.
18:54 DaemonFC; They have costs you know, and having a bunch of empty units isn't good. They'd have to fire everyone then they'd never get going again.
18:54 matey; where is freedom 3? donde es libertad numero tres
18:55 TR News; ICBM Red Hat shilling NSA SELinux, the fake "security" that's good at becoming a nuisance, not a solution... brought to you from purveyors of BACK DOORS https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/change-selinux-settings-boolean
18:55 TR Bot; How to modify SELinux settings with booleans | Enable Sysadmin
18:55 DaemonFC; I don't think that Stallman realizes that he's made a better case for Libertarianism with the GPL than he has for anything else.
18:56 DaemonFC; You violate a software license, the state doesn't send the police out, what happens is a court process, which is how Libertarians think that most issues should be resolved.
18:56 TR News; Linux Mint Vs Ubuntu: Which OS Is Better for Beginners? https://www.tecmint.com/linux-mint-vs-ubuntu/ Source: TecMint FreeSW | GNU | Linux
18:56 TR Bot; Linux Mint Vs Ubuntu: Which OS Is Better for Beginners?
18:56 matey; where is freedom 3? the license says you may walk to the moon if it pleases you
18:56 matey; you are not restricted!
18:57 TR News; KDE neon 20220707 is out https://neon.kde.org/ main machine running it here...
18:57 TR Bot; KDE neon
18:57 DaemonFC; It's like finding squatters in your house. You have to be very careful to never allow this to happen.
18:57 matey; you go ahead
18:57 schestowitz[TR]; <<techrights_guest|61> i am learning this, how do i quote a response?> Like this?
18:57 DaemonFC; If you call the cops, the cops say you have to go to court and try to evict them, and then you're in the back of the line in Chicago trying to evict people who broke in and set up a blow up bed and turned your house into a crack den.
18:58 matey; some projects make freedom 3 possible
18:58 DaemonFC; And it may take you a year, and you might get the house back eventually, in whatever state they left it in.
18:58 matey; others merely allow it
18:58 DaemonFC; Unless the governor declares that you can't evict anyone because it's the cold and flu season.
18:58 DaemonFC; :)
18:58 matey; some used to allow it, but it became unimportant. but its still allowed
18:58 matey; you can walk to mars, too!
18:59 DaemonFC; It's horrible. This is going on in America while people mock France.
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
18:59 matey; fuck it if you like, you want walk to alpha centauri!
18:59 TR News; Sparky Linux 2022.07 Semi-Rolling Is Available for Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166948#comment-34271
18:59 TR Bot; SparkyLinux 2022.07 Arrives with Linux Kernel 5.18, New Packages, and Other Changes | Tux Machines
18:59 matey; cann
18:59 matey; you can even fix my keyboard
7 PM, July 7
19:00 TR News; Twitter is inherently a censorship company https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/twitter-battles-india-control-social-media-content-2022-07-06/
19:00 TR Bot; Twitter battles India for control of social media content | Reuters
19:00 TR News; Myanmar IMEI FAQ: how the junta could disconnect the resistance - https://www.accessnow.org/myanmar-imei/ Source: accessnow
19:00 TR Bot; Myanmar IMEI FAQ: how the junta could disconnect the resistance -
19:01 TR News; NO! Apple works for the NSA! It HELPS governments with spyware. Don't listen to GAFAM-owned "media" (Bezos, propaganda, marketing) https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/07/06/apple-spyware-lockdown-pegasus/
19:01 TR Bot; Apple unveils new security setting to block Pegasus attacks on iPhones - The Washington Post
19:02 techrights_guest|61; got it . thanks.
19:02 *psydroid2 disfruta el llanto de libertad (nmero trs)
19:03 matey; se quederan en el bano por una semana
19:03 TR News; Blobs with blogs with patented blobs in them. RMS is rolling in his roller. https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/07/chromium-snap-package-to-finally-get-back-vaapi-hardware-decoding/
19:03 TR Bot; Chromium Snap Package to Finally Get back VAAPI Hardware Decoding | UbuntuHandbook
19:03 matey; (bono?)
19:03 psydroid2; jejeje
19:03 psydroid2; s, bastante bien escrito
19:03 matey; he sure is
19:03 psydroid2; al menos lo entiendo
19:05 matey; que voy a hacer je ne sais pas
19:05 matey; que voy a hacer je ne sais plus
19:06 matey; que voy a hacer je suis perdu
19:06 matey; que horas son, mi corazon
19:06 TR News; OSI blog is now run by full-time Microsoft employees, shilling proprietary software (GitHub). OSI is bribed, corrupt, defunct. Any person who still gives the OSI any dime is a fool. https://blog.opensource.org/helping-open-source-projects-thrive-by-putting-essential-licensing-data-at-teams-fingertips/
19:06 TR Bot; Helping Open Source projects thrive by putting essential licensing data at teams fingertips - Voices of Open Source
19:06 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rs6Y4kZ8qtw
19:07 TR Bot; Manu Chao - Me Gustas Tu (Official Audio) - Invidious
19:07 TR News; In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-budget-for-proprietary-software-monopoly/
19:07 TR Bot; In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) | Techrights
19:07 TR News; Microsoft: the universal cockroach of the tech industry
19:07 *psydroid2 sends an African bullfrog after Microsoft
19:08 TR News; Ankush Das is licking the Microsot boot while bagging money from Microsoft front groups like LF https://news.itsfoss.com/systemd-creator-microsoft/
19:08 TR Bot; More Linux Developers Joining Microsoft, Systemd Creator Adds to the List - It's FOSS News
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19:10 matey; <psydroid2> ACTION sends an African bullfrog after Microsoft https://www.wildelifecomic.com/comics/1651213915-1057.png
19:10 TR News; "PipeWire is a graph-based processing engine, that focuses on handling multimedia data (audio, video and MIDI mainly)." https://bootlin.com/blog/an-introduction-to-pipewire/
19:10 TR Bot; introduction to PipeWire - Bootlin's blog
19:11 TR News; "We humans also use stigmergy in a lot of ways: most notably, we write things down. From post-it notes posted on the fridge to remind ourselves to buy more cheese to writing books that can potentially influence the behaviour of a whole future generation of young people." http://www.vegardno.net/2022/07/stigmergy.html
19:11 TR Bot; tail -f /var/log/messages | grep vegard: Stigmergy in programming
19:12 TR News; [ICBM] Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Foundation Models: HEY HI s Exciting New Frontier https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/07/foundation-models-ais-exciting-new-frontier.html Source: irvingwb
19:12 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Foundation Models: AIs Exciting New Frontier
19:13 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166957
19:13 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
19:14 TR News; 6 Steps for Legacy Software Migrations - KDAB https://www.kdab.com/legacy-software-migration-steps/ Source: kdab
19:14 TR Bot; Steps for Legacy Software Migrations - KDAB
19:14 DaemonFC; schestowitz, It's a tax scam. Microsoft can donate it and then have them sponsor work on Microsoft's projects.
19:15 DaemonFC; I figure that longer term, Microsoft will likely "open source" more Windows components, but not anything that's really useful outside of Windows.
19:16 DaemonFC; Then they'll "donate" more and more to outfits like OSI and "Linux Foundation" that flows right back to "consultants" that don't work for Microsoft but only work on those components.
19:16 DaemonFC; That way they can take advantage of a tax loophole to fund development of their own software and write it off their taxes.
19:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz, There was a dentist down there at the hot tub talking about how she got the government for over $100,000 in COVID money because of the pandemic and she plans to retire and shut down the office anyway this year.
19:19 DaemonFC; Then she didn't go anywhere last year, so she had her church write her timeshare company a check to use her 8 timeshare weeks for a big church conference, and then she turned around and wrote them a check for that amount and declared it a tax writeoff as "charity".
19:20 DaemonFC; It's just extremely crooked the way rich people get to scheme and scheme to avoid taxes. If you aren't going to use your vacation this year, sell it to the church and take a tax deduction.
19:20 DaemonFC; $100,000 for a dental practice saying you need to save it one year so you can retire as soon as it opens back up.
19:21 DaemonFC; She was talking about everyone getting on a cruise because that was one of the ways you could use your timeshare weeks.
19:21 DaemonFC; So the cruise company says everyone has to be vaccinated. Then all of them got COVID.
19:21 DaemonFC; Every last one of them, including her.
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19:24 TR News; docs: Bump 22.2 branchpoint by two weeks (259449e5) Commits Mesa / mesa GitLab https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/commit/259449e5735720655bfd721bfa24bfe50eaa1a9b Source: gitlab
19:24 TR Bot; docs: Bump 22.2 branchpoint by two weeks (259449e5) Commits Mesa / mesa GitLab
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19:24 TR News; [PATCH v13 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework - Yu Zhao https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220706220022.968789-1-yuzhao@google.com/ Source: google
19:24 TR Bot; [PATCH v13 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework - Yu Zhao
19:25 TR News; The apple doesnt fall far from the tree http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/miguel-de-lp/
19:25 TR Bot; First You Spend a Few Years Pretending to Care About GNU/Linux | Techrights
19:25 TR News; Stop whining, losers; give Microsoft complete control over your whole system http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/eine-nation-eine-system/
19:26 TR Bot; Eine Nation, Eine System | Techrights
19:27 TR News; Real-time Compositor https://code.blender.org/2022/07/real-time-compositor/
19:27 TR Bot; Real-time Compositor Blender Developers Blog
19:29 TR News; [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 0/2] i915: Introduce Meteorlake https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2022-July/301011.html Source: intel
19:29 TR Bot; [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 0/2] i915: Introduce Meteorlake
19:30 TR News; wxWidgets 3.2.0 Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166958
19:30 TR Bot; wxWidgets 3.2.0 Released | Tux Machines
19:32 DaemonFC; Well, there's no reason to fly to Tennessee.
19:33 DaemonFC; It costs $200 more than taking the Buick (gas money) and then I have to go through TSA, which means unless I randomly get Pre-Check when I print my boarding passes, good luck with that.
19:33 TR News; Tesseract OCR 5.2 is out, but was outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software, so I cannot link to it. What an awful judgment from Gulag. Did it bring in too many "formers" Softers?
19:34 TR News; Top 10 Best Programming Tools for Kids in 2022 https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-programming-tools-for-kids/ Source: UbuntuPIT | GNU | Linux
19:34 TR Bot; Top 10 Best Programming Tools for Kids in 2022
19:35 TR News; "The new movement to leave GitHub" https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/149147/linux-action-news-248/
19:35 TR Bot; Linux Action News 248 | Jupiter Broadcasting
19:36 TR News; Ham Radio & Linux - Andys Ham Radio Linux distribution for the desktop. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/774281/ham-radio-linux-andys-ham-radio-linux-distribution-for-the-desktop/
19:36 TR Bot; Ham Radio & Linux - Andys Ham Radio Linux distribution for the desktop. - Linux & Unix
19:43 TR News; System76s lightweight Linux laptop refreshed with focus on battery life http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166918#comment-34272
19:43 TR Bot; System76s Lemur Pro Linux laptop now comes with Alder Lake-U | Tux Machines
19:44 TR News; #HowTo Install Tor Browser in Linux with Security Guide Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166959
19:44 TR Bot; How to Install Tor Browser in Linux with Security Guide | Tux Machines
19:44 TR News; Trump and Biden bailing out Microsoft so that it can attack GNU/Linux some more...
19:44 TR News; Microsoft Still Attacking From the Inside Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166960
19:44 TR Bot; Microsoft Still Attacking From the Inside | Tux Machines
19:45 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I don't get why people use airplanes when they're just going a few states over. The cost of the tickets is as much or more than gas, you have to spend so much time at the airport fighting other people, you'll probably get sick or attacked from/by other passengers, there's a decent chance there's some crazy person onboard that forces the plane to land so they can be removed, causing you to miss your check-in or connecting flight...
19:46 TR News; Microsoft "heart" = Microsoft Attacking Free, Libre, and Open Source Software
19:46 DaemonFC; Then you have to rent a car when you get to the airport and it's probably going to be from Hertz, and they may report you as a car thief to the police AFTER you return it to them on time.
19:47 psydroid2; if it takes more time and money to fly than to go by car/bus/train, then it's probably not a good idea to fly
19:47 DaemonFC; Not necessarily.
19:48 schestowitz[TR]; flgiht = class posing
19:48 DaemonFC; THey don't stop the train over an unruly passenger.
19:48 schestowitz[TR]; projection
19:48 schestowitz[TR]; "posh"
19:48 DaemonFC; THey just throw them off or have them arrested.
19:48 schestowitz[TR]; I am so rich I take a plane for 100 mile trip
19:48 psydroid2; then you have other problems
19:48 DaemonFC; Then the train gets going again.
19:48 schestowitz[TR]; we once took such a flight to avoid the bus
19:48 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> I am so rich I take a plane for 100 mile trip
19:48 schestowitz[TR]; but it was heavily discounted flight
19:49 DaemonFC; My aunt once sold her 4 year old paid-off car to go to Disney for a couple weeks.
19:49 schestowitz[TR]; short-term thinking
19:49 DaemonFC; When they got back, it dawned on her she needed a car to go to work and she didn't have a car.
19:49 schestowitz[TR]; did she fall in love with goofy?
19:49 DaemonFC; Nobody would finance her for a new one because her credit was so bad, and she ended up renting an Enterprise van they went to Florida in for months.
19:50 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> did she fall in love with goofy?
19:50 DaemonFC; It was ridiculous, schestowitz[TR]
19:50 DaemonFC; It was sick.
19:50 DaemonFC; It was obscene how many times they couldn't pay their mortgage to go to Disney.
19:50 DaemonFC; Or how many times they were getting sued by credit cards to go to Disney.
19:50 TR News; ICBM Red Hat attacking the stability of GNU/Linux desktop for its own business reasons https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wKaLHa2LbYE
19:50 TR Bot; GTK could drop X11, Firefox is more private, and new Linux laptops - Linux and open source news - Invidious
19:51 DaemonFC; I don't know if she ever filed bankruptcy. Maybe. I don't know.
19:51 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show how to install Ubuntu Unity 22.04" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=djejuvVBUO8
19:51 TR Bot; How to install Ubuntu Unity 22.04 - Invidious
19:51 DaemonFC; It wouldn't surprise me. The law was more permissive back then. Almost everyone could file once every 7 years and you just got more credit cards the day after it discharged.
19:52 TR News; "Gtranslator is an application which helps translators to do translation of application from one language to another through po files ." https://dev.to/redoca2k/week-5-explaining-project-1kb2
19:52 TR Bot; Week-5: Explaining project - DEV Community
19:52 DaemonFC; Then they clamped down on it so that if you meet the income to file for bankruptcy, you probably didn't have too much credit card debt anyway.
19:52 TR News; "Cisco has released security updates to address vulnerabilities in multiple Cisco products. An attacker could exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system. For updates addressing lower severity vulnerabilities, see the Cisco Security Advisories page." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/07/07/cisco-releases-security-updates-multiple-products
19:53 TR Bot; Cisco Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products | CISA
19:53 DaemonFC; Unless you were just rich and then hit a major disaster and couldn't work anymore.
19:53 DaemonFC; So it's a scheme where they let people go who they were never going to get anything from anyway.
19:55 DaemonFC; The politicians who wrote the 1978 Bankruptcy Act were different. They cared about their constituents.
19:55 TR News; Zombie CentOS, which ICBM tries to kill with "kindness": "This report covers work that happened between April 5th and July 4th. For previous work, see the 2022Q1 report." https://blog.centos.org/2022/07/centos-hyperscale-sig-quarterly-report-for-2022q2/
19:55 TR Bot; Hyperscale SIG Quarterly Report for 2022Q2 Blog.CentOS.org
19:55 DaemonFC; Today, it's the banks and megacorporations go tell them what they want and hand them a pile of cash, and the bill, which is already written, and they pass it.
19:56 DaemonFC; Then they tell you how much it will improve your life, or poverty shame people.
19:56 DaemonFC; To drum up support for it, from idiots.
19:56 DaemonFC; Like the 2005 Bankruptcy Act or Obamacare.
19:56 TR News; Linux in the Ham Shack: "It's time once again for The Weekender. This is our departure into the world of hedonism, random topic excursions, whimsy and (hopefully) knowledge. Thanks for listening and, if you happen to get a chance, feel free to call us or e-mail and send us some feedback. Tell us how we're doing. We'd love to hear from you." https://lhspodcast.info/2022/07/lhs-episode-473-the-weekender-xciii-2/
19:56 TR Bot; LHS Episode #473: The Weekender XCIII | Linux in the Ham Shack
19:56 TR News; Systemd supremo Lennart Poettering leaves Red Hat for Microsoft http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166960#comment-34273
19:56 TR Bot; Microsoft Still Attacking From the Inside | Tux Machines
19:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I struggle to think of a major piece of legislation that passed since the 1990s that wasn't just written by lobbyists and handed to them.
19:57 TR News; Spamnil covering "Azure" garbage. Come up, Scamnil, shill Microsoft... show us what Linux Foundation stands for...
19:58 DaemonFC; Even the No Surprises Act didn't come from nowhere. It came from hospitals and doctors who outbid the insurance companies and said they were sick of insurance companies getting to say something that happened in a covered hospital was "out of network" and leaving them trying to get money out of a patient that doesn't have any.
19:58 DaemonFC; So now the only difference is insurance will cost more and the deductibles will go up again, and as usual, you just pay for healthcare some other way instead.
19:59 DaemonFC; It's not like Congress passed a bill and there won't be huge medical bills coming in the mail from out of network doctors in the ER and shit.e
19:59 DaemonFC; I mean, there won't be, but it's a side effect.
19:59 DaemonFC; And then instead of a $9,000 deductible this year, it'll be $10,000 next year, and your premiums will go up $100 a month.
8 PM, July 7
20:00 DaemonFC; So instead of one ridiculous bill, you'll get many, even if you don't get sick that year.
20:00 DaemonFC; You'll be paying more for your "in network" stuff to the point where it'll be as much or more as finding out the ER doctor wasn't in your network.
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20:02 DaemonFC; I wish my phone would stop going "You remember that day with John 6 years ago? DING DING Here it is again!".
20:03 DaemonFC; He deserves to be incinerated. My phone just wants to keep popping up pictures of us, us on vacation, that stupid car.
20:05 TR News; "Systemd Creator Lands At Microsoft... 161 Comments"... people have a mouthful to say. Nobody is defending this!
20:05 DaemonFC; The mask comes off.
20:06 DaemonFC; 9 years later.
20:06 TR News; 25 Most Dangerous Software Flaws Identified by MITRE | eSecurityPlanet https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/most-dangerous-software-flaws/ Source: esecurityplanet
20:06 TR Bot; Most Dangerous Software Flaws Identified by MITRE | eSecurityPlanet
20:06 DaemonFC; For over a decade he just "coincidentally" reimplemented Windows on top of Linux.
20:07 TR News; Linux Foundation doing its events in Seattle, right next to its masters
20:07 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: Linux in the Ham Shack, Ubuntu Unity 22.04, GTK, Ham Radio, and Linux Action News Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166961
20:07 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: Linux in the Ham Shack, Ubuntu Unity 22.04, GTK, Ham Radio, and Linux Action News | Tux Machines
20:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], More Bill News.
20:09 schestowitz[TR]; oh no
20:09 schestowitz[TR]; please
20:09 DaemonFC; He bought 2,100 acres of North Dakota farmland worth $13.5 million.
20:09 DaemonFC; "People are livid all throughout the state."
20:09 DaemonFC; Good thing they don't matter I guess.
20:09 DaemonFC; He doesn't farm. He just owns the land and taxes people to use it.
20:09 DaemonFC; Parasite.
20:10 TR News; "As of Ubuntu 22.04, the Pimoroni Unicorn hats are supported on Ubuntu out of the box. This includes the standard Unicorn Hat, Unicorn pHAT, Unicorn HAT Mini, and Unicorn HAT HD." https://ubuntu.com//blog/bring-home-the-disco-with-these-unicorn-hat-tutorials-part-1
20:10 TR Bot; home the disco with these Unicorn HAT tutorials (Part 1) | Ubuntu
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20:11 DaemonFC; What's going on with farmland is basically the rich getting to impose their own private tax on eating.
20:11 TR News; Brittany Day at linuxsecurity.com relaying a lot of anti-Linux FUD. Being a MARKETING person, relaying scaremongering to make "security" sales might be expected. But domains owned by Linux-hostile people with "Linux" in the domain name... is a "dick move"
20:12 DaemonFC; They don't do anything with the land. They just own it. It requires no maintenance. They force the people working the land to do that.
20:12 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
20:12 schestowitz[TR]; rents
20:12 schestowitz[TR]; then they buy shares in social control media
20:12 schestowitz[TR]; to confuse and control the masses
20:12 schestowitz[TR]; controlling what they get outraged over
20:13 DaemonFC; It's worse than landlords who own buildings or apartments or something because some of that money goes to upkeep and utilities and insurance and tax and shit that people don't want to deal with directly every month.
20:13 DaemonFC; If your landlord charges you $1,000 in rent, then probably $500 of it is going back out to the government, an insurance company, or maintaining your unit and the building.
20:14 DaemonFC; If Gates charges rent, he keeps basically all of it.
20:14 DaemonFC; He may owe some property taxes, but that's the end of it really.
20:14 DaemonFC; He can force the risks on everyone else and take take take.
20:15 DaemonFC; It's not at all clear that trying to buy a home is better than renting one.
20:15 DaemonFC; Roofs, for example. They usually need an overhaul every 10-15 years.
20:15 DaemonFC; Furnaces go out.
20:15 DaemonFC; Water heaters rot out and leak or fail or get so crapped up you need to replace it.
20:16 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166962
20:16 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
20:16 DaemonFC; The carpets get wear and tear, floors need to be resurfaced sometimes, paint takes damage and needs to be redone because of scratches. You might get bug infestations. Mold and mildew.
20:16 DaemonFC; Grandma got all of that. She ignored it all too.
20:16 DaemonFC; Threw the bed in front of the mold and went shopping at Macy's.
20:17 DaemonFC; Her reasoning was simple. The house was probably structurally sufficient to remain standing as long as she needed to live in it.
20:17 DaemonFC; So why spend any money at all on it?
20:17 DaemonFC; She passed along all of the problems to my cousin, who overpaid her for it and then squandered the money.
20:18 DaemonFC; Buying shit for her grand-daughter. My Uncle in Georgia finally produced his own child, late in the game.
20:18 DaemonFC; So she's 20 years younger than I am.
20:19 TR News; Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-188-01
20:19 TR Bot; Rockwell Automation MicroLogix | CISA
20:19 TR News; How to use Yum package Manager on Rocky Linux 8 - VITUX https://vitux.com/yum-rocky-linux/ Source: vitux
20:19 TR Bot; to use Yum package Manager on Rocky Linux 8 - VITUX
20:19 DaemonFC; And of course, my Grandmother despised my family, and she was mean to my Aunt, and by the time she realized my cousins from my Aunt weren't going to give her biological great-grandchildren, Uncle Steve finally managed to have a child.
20:20 DaemonFC; So she went through $67,000 buying stuff at Macy's for her and spending on my Uncle and adding to her own wardrobe.
20:20 DaemonFC; My grandmother has so many clothes that for each season they have to rotate some out of storage units and into an entire walk-in closet plus two freestanding closets in her nursing home room.
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20:21 DaemonFC; It's just crazy. And she's never even worn a lot of them. And she got them all at Macy's or some other expensive store. Right? Not like me going. "I need one pair of jeans that fit, so I will go to Walmart. How much will this cost me?".
20:22 DaemonFC; When you die with tons of clothes you've never even worn, I mean. Jesus....
20:22 TR News; How to add a powerful web-based system and network load monitor to Ubuntu Server | TechRepublic https://www.techrepublic.com/article/add-network-load-monitor-ubuntu/ Source: techrepublic
20:22 TR Bot; to add a powerful web-based system and network load monitor to Ubuntu Server | TechRepublic
20:22 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: let's get back to tech now
20:22 TR News; Firefox GNOME Theme Now Follows GTK4/libadwaita Styling Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166963
20:22 TR Bot; Firefox GNOME Theme Now Follows GTK4/libadwaita Styling | Tux Machines
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: here's a topic for you
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; maybe for blog
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; find out what happened with systemd
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; means of investigation
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; scan commnets about 1) LP leaving RHT
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; and 2) joing Microsoft
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; it's hard to tell what's going on
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; why he joined
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; when he agreed
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; what for?
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; who else?
20:24 schestowitz[TR]; what ahead?
20:24 schestowitz[TR]; lots of speculations
20:24 TR News; IBM and Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166964
20:24 TR Bot; IBM and Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
20:24 schestowitz[TR]; depending on the situation, we might want to even start campaining for non-system,d distros
20:24 schestowitz[TR]; like proper comapaigning
20:24 schestowitz[TR]; and maybe no pulseaudio
20:24 Ariadne; why wouldn't you do that already if you dislike systemd
20:25 schestowitz[TR]; that can be hard as some software supports nothing but PA now
20:25 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: the urgency
20:25 schestowitz[TR]; SFC thankfully spoke out on github
20:25 schestowitz[TR]; 4 years late
20:25 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/everest.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-everest#comic )
20:25 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
20:26 schestowitz[TR]; with Novell the backlash was strong and immediate
20:26 Ariadne; is it really that urgent? alpine has a lot of adoption already. as much as any of the big gnu/linux distros, and probably more.
20:26 schestowitz[TR]; and then mono
20:26 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: that's because it gets things done right, and simply
20:26 schestowitz[TR]; today we made a sdort of cms, a simple one
20:26 schestowitz[TR]; cron jobs and ionotify
20:27 DaemonFC; Microsoft in "open source" and Free Software is like some weeds that got into your yard and started multiplying and would be very difficult to remove now.
20:27 schestowitz[TR]; inotify
20:27 DaemonFC; Like those "paradise trees" that invaded my Aunt's lawn and took over the back yard.
20:28 DaemonFC; They grow fast and then the entire block smells like rotting garbage.
20:28 schestowitz[TR]; lots of talk about "chop shortage"
20:28 schestowitz[TR]; not about overconsumption of chips
20:28 schestowitz[TR]; to run "HEY HI"
20:28 DaemonFC; It's not easy to uproot them once they're grown.
20:28 schestowitz[TR]; loads of very bloated things
20:28 DaemonFC; So people ignored systemd and Pulseaudio and now they've got a lawn full of paradise trees stinking the place up.
20:28 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: by then they already took up a lot of nutrients
20:29 DaemonFC; With an idiot who openly admitted he didn't care about bugs and was allowed to continue.
20:29 schestowitz[TR]; and other soil resourrces
20:29 DaemonFC; Who now works for Microsoft, where that's always been their attitude about bugs anyway.
20:29 DaemonFC; Fitting.
20:29 schestowitz[TR]; it's hard to understand how the system works now
20:29 schestowitz[TR]; it's too bloated
20:30 schestowitz[TR]; 2 millions lines of code
20:30 DaemonFC; "Yes, you can make it crash that way, but it will be respawned again when something needs it, so where's the harm?"
20:30 schestowitz[TR]; for simple tasks that used to be maybe 50 lines of code
20:30 schestowitz[TR]; our 'CMS' is dozens of lines so far
20:30 DaemonFC; The harm is that it's network-facing and takes resources to deal with constant crashing and restarting.
20:30 schestowitz[TR]; and some perl modules etc.
20:30 DaemonFC; Which makes it an effective DDoS method.
20:30 DaemonFC; And he marks it as WontFix.
20:31 DaemonFC; With a three line patch it could have been solved. It took more effort to write his justification for not fixing it.
20:31 DaemonFC; So that's who Red Hat put in charge of audio and init.
20:31 DaemonFC; A guy who would do 5 times more work to get out of doing work.
20:32 DaemonFC; And now there's over 20 million lines of this.
20:32 schestowitz[TR]; a l;ot of today's software assumed PA
20:32 schestowitz[TR]; and systemd
20:33 DaemonFC; Their goal was to make it so entrenched that it couldn't be easily backed out someday even if people wanted to.
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; and it "wontsupport"
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; anything else
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, firefox is PA-only already, no OSS
20:33 DaemonFC; Stopping to fix bugs prevents them from writing more code to replace more things that already work, with stuff that has more bugs and is incompatible with the things that exist.
20:34 TR News; Canonical/Ubuntu: Servers, Devices, Snaps, and Comparison to Mint Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166965
20:34 TR Bot; Canonical/Ubuntu: Servers, Devices, Snaps, and Comparison to Mint | Tux Machines
20:34 DaemonFC; How does Firefox support the BSDs then?
20:34 DaemonFC; Do they mandate Pulseaudio or something now?
20:35 schestowitz[TR]; that's why I said I'm not too sure
20:35 schestowitz[TR]; I was thinking of other OSes
20:35 schestowitz[TR]; but... depends how they package it
20:35 schestowitz[TR]; now it's snap only iirc
20:35 schestowitz[TR]; unless someone wforks it, sans branding
20:35 DaemonFC; They package it as a Flatpak.
20:35 TR News; Using Flutter on NVidia Jetson to build graphical applications - Bootlin's blog https://bootlin.com/blog/flutter-nvidia-jetson-openembedded-yocto/ Source: bootlin
20:35 TR Bot; Flutter on NVidia Jetson to build graphical applications - Bootlin's blog
20:35 DaemonFC; Firefox Flatpak on Flathub is official.
20:36 XRevan86; PulseAudio has better chances on BSDs than the Firefox's ALSA backend, obviously.
20:36 schestowitz[TR]; ah,. ok
20:36 schestowitz[TR]; maybe folr ubuntu only
20:36 schestowitz[TR]; no more deb, just snap
20:36 DaemonFC; In Fedora, Firefox is still an RPM built by Fedora.
20:36 DaemonFC; It's part of the OSTree in the Silverblue version.
20:37 DaemonFC; It just gets updated along with everything else in one go.
20:37 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166966
20:37 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
20:37 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, I stopped using xmms after many years due to LennartAudio
20:37 DaemonFC; Instead of allowing the user to mess with the root filesystem, it's read-only and revised from time to time.
20:37 schestowitz[TR]; xmms was no longer maintained and assumed oss (maybe alsa too)
20:37 DaemonFC; So everyone who runs it has the exact same image as everyone else.
20:38 DaemonFC; That's different from RPM where packages are managed individually and you can go edit files in the filesystem root if you have the permissions.
20:38 TR News; NSA Bruce: "Report by Georgetowns Center on Privacy and Technology published a comprehensive report on the surprising amount of mass surveillance conducted by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/ubiquitous-surveillance-by-ice.html
20:38 TR Bot; Surveillance by ICE - Schneier on Security
20:39 DaemonFC; It's their answer to things like rpmdb being such a piece of shit.
20:39 XRevan86; schestowitz: That can be dealt with fine, but there isn't really a point.
20:39 TR News; openwrt has just grown a little https://openwrt.org/about?rev=1657210080&do=diff
20:39 TR Bot; [OpenWrt Wiki] About the OpenWrt/LEDE project
20:40 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: the sound system?
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; I already use sound system compatgibility tools
20:41 XRevan86; schestowitz: XMMS1 not outputting sound.
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; I use audacious now
20:41 XRevan86; That's why there isn't really a point, it's better to use Audacious.
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; vlc no longer absconds bloat as it used to
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; also, vlc had a ton of bugs lately
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; and the packages are vast
20:42 AdmFubar; nice cheat sheet for diacritics and special characters https://opensource.com/sites/default/files/2022-07/OSDC_cheatsheet-compose-2022.4.15.pdf
20:42 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: as a teen I made winamp themes
20:42 schestowitz[TR]; I lost them when I had a hard-drive failure
20:42 schestowitz[TR]; don't even have screenshots left
20:43 AdmFubar; whippin' llama ass
20:44 TR News; Security bug, severity 9.1 out of 10. Yes, of course it's proprietary. Haha, yes... the media won't mention this. It only badmouths "Open Source"... over something like local DoS or priv esc https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ics/advisories/icsa-22-188-02
20:44 TR Bot; Bently Nevada ADAPT 3701/4X Series and 60M100 | CISA
20:44 schestowitz[TR]; AdmFubar: that's cruel :-)
20:44 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, it was v3 that broguth a ton of bloat
20:45 schestowitz[TR]; aol did not understandd feature churn
20:45 schestowitz[TR]; nor users' needs
20:45 schestowitz[TR]; I had just 32mb or ram on my laptop until 2005
20:45 schestowitz[TR]; *of ram
20:45 schestowitz[TR]; a lot of software died this way
20:45 schestowitz[TR]; maybe wordpress and drupal too one day
20:45 schestowitz[TR]; all they do it shovel up more na dmore and more
20:46 schestowitz[TR]; the managers and developers wrongly assume everyone has a powerful PC like theirts
20:46 schestowitz[TR]; aabiword lets you write a letter faster and better than MS Office
20:46 schestowitz[TR]; even lyx or kile
20:47 psydroid2; 32 mb of ram could still be enough to run software now
20:47 psydroid2; but it would have to be developed to be as efficient as possible from the start
20:47 TR News; "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could prevent the module from starting up. If successfully exploited, a system reset would be required for recovery." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-280-04
20:47 TR Bot; Mitsubishi Electric MELSEC iQ-R Series C Controller Module (Update B) | CISA
20:47 psydroid2; and that isn't really being taught anymore
20:48 TR News; [PATCH 00/12] AMD Pstate Enhancement And Issue Fixs https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/20220707164944.210616-1-Perry.Yuan@amd.com/T/#u Source: amd
20:48 TR Bot; [PATCH 00/12] AMD Pstate Enhancement And Issue Fixs
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; <psydroid2> but it would have to be developed to be as efficient as possible from the start
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; exactly
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; and no major framworks
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; like qt6
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; if you start with these, you're f*ed already
20:49 schestowitz[TR]; activelow (k00k) was trying to make a barebones system
20:49 schestowitz[TR]; even the compiler is massive
20:49 schestowitz[TR]; space and cpu/ram
20:49 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I'm starting to agree with Stallman on one thing.
20:49 psydroid2; I could never build a kernel on that hardware itself
20:50 schestowitz[TR]; oh, miracle
20:50 DaemonFC; Those corporate fast food restaurants should really be avoided.
20:50 DaemonFC; They're leading us into widespread jobs destruction.
20:50 schestowitz[TR]; for many reasons
20:50 psydroid2; but in 2001 I could do so just fine with even less RAM
20:50 psydroid2; even in 2010 I could do so
20:50 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: walmart does too
20:50 DaemonFC; But I doubt that they'll push others into bankruptcy by automating and then aggressively cutting prices.
20:51 DaemonFC; Because they're so greedy that the prices will continue rising even after they're done eliminating jobs.
20:51 schestowitz[TR]; you and mandy get a poirtion of the surplus in salary
20:51 schestowitz[TR]; surplus from the destructive process
20:51 DaemonFC; Yes, the ones that are left make more money.
20:51 DaemonFC; The state mandates more wages. They pay more wages, to the people who are left.
20:51 schestowitz[TR]; I have company meeting in 20 hours
20:52 DaemonFC; Marginally employable people get sacked because there's someone who will meet quota.
20:52 schestowitz[TR]; maybe I'll start working just saturday morning till sunday evening
20:52 schestowitz[TR]; it would free up lots of time to focus on the sites
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: rianne watched a videom about US homelessly
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; they show ny, texa, ca
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; in ca it's off the charts
20:53 DaemonFC; There's really a lot of arguments about how efficiency affects the jobs situation in total.
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; in LA probably the worst
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; but also in sf
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: so they need to rebalance the system
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; but cannot
20:54 schestowitz[TR]; they are already bialing iut the rich
20:54 schestowitz[TR]; they "can get away with it!"
20:54 schestowitz[TR]; they tested this in 2008
20:54 schestowitz[TR]; all those bankstrers
20:54 schestowitz[TR]; nobody got punished
20:54 schestowitz[TR]; and the problemn was never resolved, only deferred a bit
20:54 AdmFubar; https://www.pogowasright.org/europes-state-of-mass-surveillance/
20:54 TR Bot; Europes state of mass surveillance
20:54 *schestowitz[TR] checks is borisnaro officially resigned already
20:55 schestowitz[TR]; billBC: "https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/20220707164944.210616-1-Perry.Yuan@amd.com/T/#u"
20:55 TR Bot; [PATCH 00/12] AMD Pstate Enhancement And Issue Fixs
20:55 schestowitz[TR]; wbillBC: "Johnson will stay on but only as caretaker PM, new cabinet agrees"
20:55 schestowitz[TR]; wtf is " caretaker PM"?
20:55 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21062918
20:55 schestowitz[TR]; caretaker... with nukes (trident)
20:55 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/swr249a1hm771.jpg created on 2021-06-29 05:17:48.357414
20:55 schestowitz[TR]; trump the craetaker presdident
20:56 schestowitz[TR]; Jack Kevorkian, the caretaker asassin
20:57 schestowitz[TR]; died 2011 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian
20:57 TR Bot; Jack Kevorkian - Wikipedia
20:57 DaemonFC; The resort turned the fridge on just before we arrived and then all the meat I bought went bad.
20:57 DaemonFC; So they refunded it as a credit to my room that'll go back on my card after we leave.
20:58 DaemonFC; I told them I wasn't mad about hot dogs and lunch meat so much as I was that they were going to mess around and give someone food poisoning who didn't notice that their meat was warm for 8 hours and then cold by morning.
20:58 TR News; Bluestar 5.18.9 is out. German GNU/Linux didstro with KDE Plasma https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/
20:58 TR Bot; download | SourceForge.net
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
20:59 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I have no idea why you wouldn't turn the fridge on 8 hours before a guest will arrive.
20:59 DaemonFC; Or just leave them on.
20:59 DaemonFC; Not their problem if you get sick? Most people won't notice and complain?
20:59 TR News; WTH? Conflating Windows with ACER? SEO spam?? https://linuxhint.com/how-to-take-a-screenshot-on-acer-laptop/
20:59 TR Bot; How To Take A Screenshot On Acer Laptop
9 PM, July 7
21:00 psydroid2; dying industry
21:00 psydroid2; that relies on Microsoft malware
21:01 DaemonFC; There's always some asshole at one of these places. I remember in 1991, the people above us at the RCI resort in Arkansas gave one of them a haircut and mom and dad had some guy's hair flying into their breakfast.
21:01 TR News; How to Easily Rebase Fedora Silverblue to Any Available Version <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://www.makeuseof.com/rebase-fedora-silverblue-to-any-version/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>
21:01 TR Bot; How to Easily Rebase Fedora Silverblue to Any Available Version
21:01 DaemonFC; The next morning one of them had a pet turtle up there that pissed on my mom's hair.
21:01 TR News; How to Easily Rebase Fedora Silverblue to Any Available Version https://www.makeuseof.com/rebase-fedora-silverblue-to-any-version/ Source: makeuseof
21:04 AdmFubar; https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/protocol-fintech/crypto-bankruptcy
21:04 TR Bot; bankruptcy: Will customers get their crypto back? - Protocol
21:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Thoughts and Prayers for MARISOL's bitcoin exchange wallet.
21:07 DaemonFC; LOL
21:07 DaemonFC; She could have taken like 6 vacations to Europe with the money she lost.
21:08 DaemonFC; I don't know how much it was. It depends on if she's one of those idiots who leaves it alone expecting it to go back and just takes more losses.
21:08 DaemonFC; Or throws money at something that's on its way out trying to buy a dip and then taking more losses.
21:08 DaemonFC; She's not savvy or she wouldn't have had anything to do with them from the start.
21:09 DaemonFC; She's a greedy fucking idiot who is always looking to cut corners to get ahead.
21:09 DaemonFC; And those people never do because they're blinded by the illusion of wealth that they didn't have to earn at some future date.
21:09 DaemonFC; These days it's Bitcoins and shit. In the 1990s, Grandma was going to become a millionaire recruiting people to sell long distance phone cards and vitamins.
21:09 DaemonFC; They sold an RV to "get in on that" and then lost all the money they made from the RV.
21:10 TR News; This is NOT a review. It's marketing spam. Crystal Crowder now writes for a site that gloats and boasts about selling fake "reviews" https://www.maketecheasier.com/review/oneodio-monitor-80-open-back-headphones/
21:10 TR Bot; OneOdio Monitor 80 Open Back Headphones Review - Make Tech Easier
21:10 DaemonFC; They could have kept the RV and used it to have 10 more nice vacations before Grandpa died.
21:10 DaemonFC; You know?
21:11 TR News; Kernel Releases and Linux Foundations Seattle Fluff Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166967
21:11 TR Bot; Kernel Releases and Linux Foundation's Seattle Fluff | Tux Machines
21:11 DaemonFC; But that's how these scammers operate.
21:11 TR News; Microsoft To Ban Commercial Open Source from App Store Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166968
21:11 TR Bot; Microsoft To Ban Commercial Open Source from App Store | Tux Machines
21:11 DaemonFC; Look for some rube who has absolutely no idea what's happening.
21:11 DaemonFC; Tell them they'll be rich.
21:11 DaemonFC; Run off.
21:12 DaemonFC; I told my mom if Grandma really wanted a timeshare, she could have bought a used one, or kept threatening to walk out until they came at her with the "lowest offer" on the fourth try.
21:12 DaemonFC; But she probably went right in there and signed whatever they handed her, and then the salesmen started laughing at the two idiots as soon as the door shut behind them.
21:13 DaemonFC; There's almost always a lower offer at those presentations.
21:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], They try to get you with a higher one. If you're holding out past the 3rd one they try to insult you like "You can't afford this, can you? You're just here for the free days. You're wasting my time.".
21:14 DaemonFC; And then there's another person that tries to get you again after you think it's over.
21:14 DaemonFC; And each time, the offer costs half what the last offer was going to.
21:14 DaemonFC; But the 4th offer is still bad because you can buy a used timeshare for 25% of what the last offer was because people get sick of their "fees" going up 8% every year.
21:15 DaemonFC; And the easiest way out is to sell it for next to nothing to someone else.
21:15 DaemonFC; If you really want the timeshare, you just buy a used one, but you still shouldn't. Because the fees cost as much as just booking the unit through the Holiday Inn.
21:16 DaemonFC; And worse! If you want to go somewhere else, they hit you with another $130 a week for trading.
21:16 DaemonFC; Then you give up your Holiday Inn points that a non-member gets, which can be redeemed for free condo nights!
21:16 DaemonFC; So you become a member to get ripped off so much worse than the guy who just goes to the website and books a week where they want to stay that year.
21:17 DaemonFC; Bitcoins and timeshares.
21:17 DaemonFC; I'm sure MARISOL has both.
21:17 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166969
21:17 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
21:18 DaemonFC; Theoretically, timeshare sounds like a great idea, but what they never let you focus on in the meeting is the fine print, the fees, how if you can't use the days that year, you just waste them AND then they resell them to me!
21:18 DaemonFC; Through Holiday Inn.
21:18 DaemonFC; You buy the right to use it, but if you can't, they sell your week to someone else who isn't even a member and charge you for the full thing anyway.
21:18 DaemonFC; Double-dip.
21:18 DaemonFC; Satan himself runs RCI.
21:19 DaemonFC; bbiab
21:21 TR News; Alex Oliva on Self-Serving Services | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/who-is-served/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/07/who-is-served/
21:21 TR Bot; Alex Oliva on Self-Serving Services | Techrights
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21:24 TR News; FEX 2207 Tagged! FEX-Emu A fast linux usermode x86 and x86-64 emulator Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166970
21:24 TR Bot; FEX 2207 Tagged! FEX-Emu A fast linux usermode x86 and x86-64 emulator | Tux Machines
21:24 TR News; Yesterday, I was supposed to make a payment. So I went to the website of a bank whose online services I have preferred, and was surprised by a new requirement. After authenticating, I had to explicitly accept their so-called privacy policy." http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/who-is-served/
21:26 TR News; "As a result, I will likely not be posting much on my log. I will, however, continue to be reading Gemini, and I will continue to be reachable via e-mail and other methods of contact." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202207/20220707-possible-log-hiatus.gmi
21:27 TR News; Guile programming language gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/guile.gmi
21:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:32 TR News; http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/wxwidgets-3-2-0/
21:32 TR Bot; Links 07/07/2022: wxWidgets 3.2.0 Released and Microsoft is Attacking Free, Libre Software (Pretences Over) | Techrights
10 PM, July 7
22:01 psydroid2; https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Tech/Semiconductors/Chip-giants-threaten-to-scale-back-U.S.-expansion-without-subsidies
22:01 TR Bot; Chip giants threaten to scale back U.S. expansion without subsidies - Nikkei Asia
22:08 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/funny-pictures-5-17-22-9.jpg
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22:25 schestowitz[TR]; psydroid2: ooooof
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; psydroid2: no worries
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; the US will find some locals to work for $1.50 an hour
22:26 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/07/putin-russia-has-not-even-started-anything-serious-in-ukraine-yet-news "Putin: Russia has not even started anything serious in Ukraine yet"
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; in chip factories
22:26 TR Bot; .
22:26 *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: why so serious?
22:26 XRevan86; schestowitz: Exactly.
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; Serious operations(R)
22:30 psydroid2; so US fabs will produce chips for the US
22:30 psydroid2; that's a great idea
22:30 schestowitz[TR]; at what cost?
22:30 schestowitz[TR]; whose expense?
22:31 psydroid2; if they become expensive enough no one else will be buying any of them
22:31 schestowitz[TR]; the chipmakers don't feel accustomed to paying living wages
22:31 psydroid2; hopefully only at the US taxpayer's expense
22:31 schestowitz[TR]; at best they ASSEMBLE oin USA
22:31 schestowitz[TR]; while employing people for pennies, imported into sweatshops
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; even if made in taiwan, the workers are like slaves
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; maybe USA wants to try what it did what the rail system
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; where made in USA means impoorting slaves from china
22:32 *psydroid2 has no plans to ever move to the US and isn't sure he'll ever even visit
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; there might be a "run on the chips"
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; to hoard what's left
22:34 psydroid2; they want the whole world to remain dependent on US technologies and chips
22:34 schestowitz[TR]; wait
22:34 schestowitz[TR]; that's not true
22:34 psydroid2; I don't know what people there are smoking
22:34 schestowitz[TR]; those are chinese
22:34 schestowitz[TR]; mostly
22:34 schestowitz[TR]; the US has the brands
22:34 schestowitz[TR]; and taiwan too has a lot... korean, japanese
22:34 schestowitz[TR]; the US barly meakes chips
22:34 schestowitz[TR]; UK makes some pis near wales iirc
22:35 schestowitz[TR]; texwas instruments might still make smome domestically
22:35 schestowitz[TR]; the graft ("defence") industry
22:35 schestowitz[TR]; likes to make things locally
22:35 schestowitz[TR]; sometimes even plane parts
22:35 schestowitz[TR]; sometimes
22:35 schestowitz[TR]; they don't want to depend on china to assemble war planes
22:35 schestowitz[TR]; like I saikd, graft
22:35 schestowitz[TR]; the sky is the limit
22:36 psydroid2; the articles from yesterday made it clear that the US doesn't want China (PRC) to obtain more DUV machines, which are far from the state of the art
22:36 psydroid2; chips made with those machines suit my purposes just fine
22:37 psydroid2; and if I can buy those at a fraction of what an Intel or AMD chip would cost, why should I pay more for those?
22:37 TR News; Konsole in "yuck"??? He also put Kate in bad position. He clearly hates KDE. Or does not understand what KDE is capable of. "https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4YpQSY-vo5Q
22:37 TR Bot; My Terminal Emulator Tier List - Invidious
22:38 TR News; Reads too much like an ad... https://containerjournal.com/features/apiiro-extends-container-security-platform-to-runtime-environments/
22:38 TR Bot; Apiiro Extends Container Security Platform to Runtime Environments - Container Journal
22:39 schestowitz[TR]; psydroid2: NL is not alone in making them
22:39 schestowitz[TR]; what next? US blackmailing Japan?
22:39 psydroid2; schestowitz[TR], not alone, but making 95% of them from what I read
22:39 schestowitz[TR]; the world's bully is not scry.. his teeth are falling off
22:40 psydroid2; Canon and Nikon are the other ones
22:40 schestowitz[TR]; psydroid2: so the other companies will gow
22:40 schestowitz[TR]; and gain share
22:40 schestowitz[TR]; by filling the gap and selling to china
22:40 schestowitz[TR]; yes, I expected japan to be the other bg producer
22:40 psydroid2; the US will bully Japanese companies too
22:40 schestowitz[TR]; they can try
22:41 schestowitz[TR]; all this muscle-flexing will move china OFF Windows FASTER
22:41 psydroid2; the real danger is moving China of x86 after that
22:41 psydroid2; as Chinese domestic chips are catching up really fast
22:41 psydroid2; off*
22:43 psydroid2; of course that has already happened for many kinds of computers
22:43 TR News; After HP helped Microsoft attack GNU/Linux? https://futurumresearch.com/research-notes/hpe-discover-2022-news-hpe-deepens-relationships-with-red-hat-and-suse/
22:43 TR Bot; HPE Discover 2022: HPE Deepens Relationships with Red Hat and SUSE
22:45 psydroid2; has SUSE ever been the same after being acquired by Novell?
22:46 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/funny-pictures-5-17-22-10.jpg
22:46 schestowitz[TR]; no
22:46 schestowitz[TR]; it's not even clear what it was before that
22:48 psydroid2; it was my first distro which worked pretty well in 2000
22:48 psydroid2; then I tried it again in 2010 and it was really buggy
22:48 psydroid2; and more recently I had it installed and it worked but was doing things behind my back
22:48 TR News; So-called 'Linux' Foundation co-owned by Microsoft, the company that's blackmailing Linux and attacking Linux in all sorts of other way, including entryism https://linuxfoundation.org/featured/morgan-stanley-microsoft-regnosys-break-new-ground-regtech-finos/
22:48 TR Bot; Morgan Stanley, Microsoft, and Regnosys Break New Ground in RegTech with FINOS - Linux Foundation
22:48 psydroid2; so I will never use it again myself nor install it for anyone else
22:49 *techrights_guest|71 (~47d5205f@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights
22:49 TR News; 'Linux' Foundation is obsolete and the real Linux needs a new home.
22:49 *techrights_guest|71 has quit (Quit: Connection closed)
22:50 TR News; LF should change its name http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation
22:50 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights
22:51 TR News; "The Apple M1 linux project has been getting better and better and better but one chip threatened to derail the project, the Apple M2 but it turns out that getting Asahi Linux running was simpler than I expected." Says it works, did not try it (to verify) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Ryij-aJzzZI
22:51 TR Bot; Asahi Linux Basically "Just Works" On Apple M2 - Invidious
22:52 TR News; BSDRP 1.991 is out http://bsdrp.net/ https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=bsdrp https://sourceforge.net/projects/bsdrp/files/BSD_Router_Project/1.99/
22:52 TR Bot; BSD Router Project: Open Source Router Distribution [BSD Router Project]
22:52 TR Bot; BSD Router Project
22:52 TR Bot; Router Project - Browse /BSD_Router_Project/1.99 at SourceForge.net
22:54 TR News; ManCity used the summer to recruit two stars born in Leeds. Talent drain. Haaland and now Philips.
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22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
22:59 TR News; Many people do not remember it, but Phoronix used to have IRC presence (freenode), but over time it became totally inactive and even Michael abandoned the channel (about a decade ago).
11 PM, July 7
23:00 TR News; The 'Linux' Foundation is promoting stuff that competes against Linux (yet again) on behalf of Linux-hostile sponsors https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/google-summer-of-code-zephyr-rtos/
23:00 TR Bot; Google Summer of Code + Zephyr RTOS - Linux Foundation
23:01 TR News; Crystal Crowder offers mostly proprietary stuff, starting with Microsoft :/ https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-lms-alternatives-google-classroom/
23:01 TR Bot; 11 of the Best LMS Alternatives to Google Classroom - Make Tech Easier
23:01 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166971
23:01 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
23:01 TR News; Who the F needs THIS? https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/mcanbr-floating-pool-speaker/
23:01 TR Bot; Get a Mcanbr Floating Pool Speaker for Under $30 - Make Tech Easier
23:10 TR News; Making Our Own Lightweight Content Management System | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/big-content-management-systems-are-debt/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/07/big-content-management-systems-are-debt/
23:10 TR Bot; Making Our Own Lightweight Content Management System | Techrights
23:12 TR News; These 'service' have gotten considerably worse; EPO cannot recruit examiners https://www.epo.org/law-practice/legal-texts/official-journal/information-epo/archive/20220707.html
23:12 TR Bot; EPO - Notice from the European Patent Office dated 6 July 2022 concerning the reduction of the fees for the international search and the international preliminary examination carried out on international applications in favour of nationals of certain states - revised list of states
23:14 TR News; EPO once again pretends to care about the EPC while deliberately violating it all the time https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2022/20220707.html
23:14 TR Bot; EPO - EPO practice confirmed on adaptation of description
23:17 TR News; PICTURES OF THE WORLDS LARGEST http://tobkes.othellomaster.com/archives/2022/07/06/worlds-largest/
23:17 TR Bot; Harvey Tobkes Blog Archive PICTURES OF THE WORLDS LARGEST
23:21 TR News; Freefalling into a net http://tobkes.othellomaster.com/archives/2022/07/06/no-parachute/
23:21 TR Bot; Harvey Tobkes Blog Archive JUMPS FROM 25,000 ft ~ NO PARACHUTE
23:22 TR News; "This is part of what drew me to the Gemini protocol. The simplicity of the file format and the focus on lightweight tools promised a content-focused environment, one where I could worry only about what I wanted to say, and avoid my tendency to stop writing in order to tweak a stylesheet, or to tweak my static site generator for about the 50th time." gemini://tilde.town/~nihilazo/log/onwriting.gmi
23:34 TR News; Twitter upset I'm not logging in. Starts spamming me about fake "notification"... signs of a dying company. Musk will walk away and let them rot.
23:39 TR News; "In Dutch, we have a saying; "Goedkoop is duurkoop", which means that buying something cheap will eventually cost you more." gemini://pulset.smol.pub/high-quality-happiness
23:41 TR News; "So far I've got a Spartan server set up, and made bombodillo speak with the protocol. I noticed that there was some discussion on Gemini about having a modular browser." gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/2022-06-05-tcp-racket.gmi
23:55 TR News; 34,000 Blog Posts | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/34k-posts/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/07/34k-posts/
23:55 TR Bot; 34,000 Blog Posts | Techrights
23:59 TR News; This past spring 10% of Turks used GNU/Linux on desktops