IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, January 04, 2022

beginning of new day, January 4

00:00 schestowitz; MinceR: channel name "meow meow"

00:00 MinceR; indeed

00:01 MinceR; schestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephedrone

00:01 TR Bot; Mephedrone - Wikipedia

00:01 MinceR; :>

00:01 MinceR; probably not meant to be a reference to this though

00:02 schestowitz; where is that at?

00:02 schestowitz; sounds russian, but doesn't look like it

00:03 schestowitz; (the place)

00:03 MinceR; i think istanbul, turkey

00:03 schestowitz; they better watch out!

00:03 schestowitz; erDOGan around the corner

00:05 TR News; #Matrix Digital Rain On The #IBM PC With A High Persistence Monitor | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/01/03/matrix-digital-rain-on-the-ibm-pc-with-a-high-persistence-monitor/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/04/#latest

00:05 TR Bot; Digital Rain On The IBM PC With A High Persistence Monitor | Hackaday

00:05 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts

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00:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 8.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 108.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 245.78

00:11 DaemonFC; I scheduled a pneumonia vaccine for Saturday.

00:11 DaemonFC; I'm not sure what that was that hit me last month but it went on almost all month and through two rounds of antibiotics.

00:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Mom _still_ has it.

00:13 DaemonFC; She waited so long to go to the doctor that she started on Augmentin about a week ago.

00:13 schestowitz-TR; pneumonia?

00:13 schestowitz-TR; garmon?

00:13 schestowitz-TR; harmon?

00:13 DaemonFC; We're not sure what the hell it is.

00:13 DaemonFC; Antibiotics kill it eventually.

00:13 DaemonFC; It's going around.

00:14 schestowitz-TR; pneumocron

00:14 DaemonFC; The Amoxicillin got me on my feet again and I felt okay for 2 days after it ran out, but then I started coughing up green shit that tasted really bad.

00:15 DaemonFC; So I went to the walk-in clinic and they put me on a Z-Pak. It started lifting up again, and it took about 12 more days before it was over.

00:15 DaemonFC; It went on for about 27 days in total.

00:15 MinceR; pneumocron

00:15 MinceR; fluorona

00:16 DaemonFC; Mom doesn't take flu shots.

00:16 DaemonFC; She's taken most of her adult vaccines, but she doesn't get flu shots and she won't go near the ones for COVID either.

00:16 schestowitz-TR; fluorona the return

00:16 schestowitz-TR; two mate and mix to make a monster

00:16 DaemonFC; She says a friend at church took the Shingles vaccine and had a very serious reaction to it.

00:16 schestowitz-TR; stay tune for fluorona the trilogy

00:16 schestowitz-TR; *tuned

00:16 DaemonFC; I told her, "Well, it's well known the Shingles one can get rough.".

00:17 schestowitz-TR; ewww

00:18 DaemonFC; In the past 5 years I've been vaccinated against flu every year, COVID (3 doses, Pfizer), Meningitis A,C,W,Y, Meningitis B, and Hepatitis A.

00:18 DaemonFC; The only one that had any side effects was for COVID.

00:18 DaemonFC; I don't normally side effect reactions to vaccines.

00:18 DaemonFC; Oh yeah, and I had a Tdap.

00:19 DaemonFC; Tetanus is a really nasty thing. There's only been like one case in the US in the last 10 years that I can recall.

00:19 DaemonFC; A child got it because his parents were anti-vaxxers and he went to the hospital for a month, suffered horribly, and by the time the doctors got it under control, it had cost the state a million dollars in care for the child.

00:20 DaemonFC; People like that need to lose their children to the state.

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00:20 DaemonFC; Then they need to be sterilized so they don't have more.

00:21 MinceR; i wouldn't trust the state with those

00:21 DaemonFC; Sometimes the parents are even worse.

00:21 MinceR; the state is a gigantic ongoing fuckup

00:21 DaemonFC; Well, the theory of democracy is we have representatives to have arguments for us about how things should work.

00:21 schestowitz-TR; I still remember the Tetanus...

00:22 schestowitz-TR; as a kid I accidentally say on a small nail on a wood plank

00:22 schestowitz-TR; and it was a bit rusty

00:22 DaemonFC; However, under the new Democrat maps, 97% of people in Illinois won't have any choice at all about who their representative is.

00:22 schestowitz-TR; so they gave me another Tetanus shot

00:22 schestowitz-TR; that was painful, but no side effects that I can remember

00:22 schestowitz-TR; *sat on

00:23 DaemonFC; Yeah, I hit my head on a forklift and cut myself.

00:23 DaemonFC; They took me to the hospital and gave me a tetanus shot.

00:23 schestowitz-TR; maybe a common precaution

00:23 schestowitz-TR; esp. with rust

00:23 DaemonFC; Then they wrote me up for having an accident and then they told me to go back to work with dried blood all over my face and a concussion.

00:23 DaemonFC; :)

00:23 schestowitz-TR; maybe the shot hurt a lot because of my age

00:24 schestowitz-TR; I was under 10, afraid of needles

00:24 DaemonFC; Like, gee, I was really trying to bash my own face in against a metal roll cage you know.

00:24 DaemonFC; Write me up, fucker.

00:25 DaemonFC; They forced you to work fast if you wanted to keep your job or earn any money that week.

00:25 DaemonFC; Then when you have an accident....your fault.

00:25 DaemonFC; The base pay at Stride Rite was $8 an hour, but you could earn about $20 if you maxed out the "performance incentive bonus".

00:26 DaemonFC; So I worked out a way where I could max it out doing any job in the building every hour of every week.

00:26 DaemonFC; Then they got suspicious and started following me around because the managers didn't know how I was doing it.

00:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I kept track of my "PIE" score and if I went over 150% (where the bonus ended), I'd do things to bring it back down at the end of the week.

00:27 MinceR; Proto-Indo-European?

00:27 DaemonFC; Like, if they ran out of work and told me to sweep the floors, I would spend 20 more minutes under the "order pulling" job code.

00:28 TR News; Best 12 #GNU #Linux #ASCII #Games That are Modern Looking - DekiSoft https://dekisoft.com/best-linux-ascii-games/ #dekisoft | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/04/#latest

00:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: dekisoft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://dekisoft.com/best-linux-ascii-games/

00:28 TR Bot; 12 Linux ASCII Games That are Modern Looking - DekiSoft

00:28 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts

00:28 DaemonFC; It would pull down my rate for the week and get it closer to 150% while I was sweeping the floor for $20 an hour.

00:28 DaemonFC; Or taking a dump. That was fun too.

00:28 DaemonFC; Go to the back of the warehouse. There was a bathroom there. Play snake on my phone while my rate came back down towards 150%.

00:28 MinceR; "Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime. That's why I poop on company time"

00:28 TR News; The 16 Best Free Linux Screen Recorders Available (Download) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159862 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

00:28 TR Bot; The 16 Best Free Linux Screen Recorders Available (Download) | Tux Machines

00:29 DaemonFC; <MinceR> "Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime. That's why I poop on company time"

00:29 DaemonFC; Well, if you make the same amount per hour under a job code at 180% or 150%, you should stay under the old job code for as long as possible to bring it back down towards 150%.

00:30 DaemonFC; Then you get the full possible hourly pay for taking a shit or sweeping the floor.

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00:30 DaemonFC; Most people never had to worry about that because the next highest would be like 110-115%.

00:31 TR News; The PinePhone Keyboard Case is Now Available to Buy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159781#comment-32371

00:31 TR Bot; PinePhone keyboard now available (Wireless charging, fingerprint, and LoRa cases too) | Tux Machines

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00:33 TR News; There are vastly more potent threats than this; for instance, if you buy their #librem5 and connect it to a network/carrier, your movements are tracked. https://puri.sm/posts/high-security-shipping-anti-interdiction-in-2021/

00:33 TR Bot; High Security Shipping: Anti-interdiction in 2021 Purism

00:35 leah; i have been summoned

00:35 *schestowitz-TR runs to hide under a rock

00:35 *MinceR inspects the binding circle

00:36 leah; schestowitz-TR: what did you think of the policy page posted on libreboot.org?

00:36 leah; you should know, even on that page, i'm highly masking my true feelings. i'm now working on the osboot version ;)

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00:38 TR News; "Local women had found Chris Lamb so difficult to deal with that they had to start their own crowdfunding campaign to get there. Lamb only had eyes for Albanian women like the woman who won an Outreachy internship." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159620#comment-32372

00:38 TR Bot; How to get selected for Outreachy internships | Tux Machines

00:39 schestowitz-TR; leah: well, you are expressing amicable sentiments towards GNU

00:39 schestowitz-TR; it is a powerful brand among those who value freedom

00:39 leah; schestowitz-TR: i couldn't hide my true feelings anymore. the take away from that article should be this:

00:39 leah; libreboot will continue complying with fsf policy. but fsf policy is flawed

00:40 schestowitz-TR; leah: I have a question:

00:40 leah; and the article simply highlights those flaws. i tried to be respectful

00:40 schestowitz-TR; [00:33] <techrights-news> There are vastly more potent threats than this; for instance, if you buy their #librem5 and connect it to a network/carrier, your movements are tracked. https://puri.sm/posts/high-security-shipping-anti-interdiction-in-2021/

00:40 schestowitz-TR; thoughts?

00:40 leah; meh

00:40 leah; it's purism. who cares

00:41 leah; put me in a prison cell and give me these choices of people to share a bunk bed with:

00:41 schestowitz-TR; charging premium to spew some nail polish on screws

00:41 leah; * mjg59_

00:41 leah; * todd weaver

00:41 schestowitz-TR; which I always found rather funny

00:41 leah; i choose mjg59_

00:41 leah; todd is worse

00:41 schestowitz-TR; also, it does not assure you that further up the chain nobody tampers with it

00:41 schestowitz-TR; or inside purism itself

00:41 schestowitz-TR; you need to purchase ANONYMOUSLY

00:41 schestowitz-TR; I've long said

00:41 leah; i don't care about purism

00:42 schestowitz-TR; they cannot target people who buy a genetic product and pay with cash

00:42 leah; even if purism ends up being the best thing ever, and improves everything, and saves the world

00:42 leah; i will never forgive todd for his early villainy

00:42 leah; for me, this is personal

00:42 schestowitz-TR; though even if you pay with ID (card) it's too late for them to tamper if you take it off the shelf or back door

00:42 schestowitz-TR; *room

00:42 schestowitz-TR; not door

00:43 schestowitz-TR; i heard bad things about him

00:43 schestowitz-TR; not just from you

00:44 schestowitz-TR; "when too people tell you that are you drunk..."

00:44 leah; i'm gonna get back to working on osbmk/osbwww now

00:44 leah; schestowitz-TR: wanna see osboot? my local homepage

00:44 leah; i made a dark theme

00:44 schestowitz-TR; lol

00:44 schestowitz-TR; you mean changed a few lines in css?

00:45 schestowitz-TR; with selector for css file?

00:45 TR News; Games: #GOG Winter Sale, Not Actually A DOS Game, and ASCII Games Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159863 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

00:45 TR Bot; Games: GOG Winter Sale, Not Actually A DOS Game, and ASCII Games | Tux Machines

00:45 schestowitz-TR; leah: I have a dark theme

00:46 leah; schestowitz-TR: https://lutim.stolon.fr/0gT6MVDy1CoeM5cd.png

00:46 schestowitz-TR; I keep some black shirts in the cabinet

00:46 leah; schestowitz-TR: i joke on the libreboot blob policy page by saying:

00:46 leah; "libreboot is the light, and osboot is the dark side"

00:46 leah; well, i'm giving osboot.org a dark theme!

00:46 MinceR; dark side ftw

00:46 schestowitz-TR; gemini has THEMES?

00:47 leah; i'll get back to my work now. ping me again if you need me

00:47 schestowitz-TR; leah: in gemini you choose the colours

00:47 schestowitz-TR; and then they're consistent across capsules

00:47 schestowitz-TR; no need for someone else to decide for you

00:47 schestowitz-TR; the spec is simple enough that they cannot impose colours on you, either

00:48 schestowitz-TR; leah: ah, ok, sorry. speak laters.

1 AM, January 4

01:09 TR News; Dr. #AndyFarnell (above) offers some positive words of encouragement and optimism as this series concludes http://techrights.org/2022/01/03/article-on-digital-rights-in-2021-part-10/

01:09 TR Bot; My Year as a Digital Vegan Part X Happy New Year: Thoughts for 2022 and Beyond | Techrights

01:11 TR News; My birthday cake http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/The-Corona-Times/Roy-s-Birthdays/20211217_143744

01:11 TR Bot; 20211217 143744

01:12 DaemonFC; If Biden was smarter, he'd split this "BBB" bill into sections and have Chuck and Nancy start forcing up or down votes on all of it starting with the ones where most of them will be punished in the next election somehow if they vote against it.

01:12 DaemonFC; Expanding Medicare is pretty popular in every state and it would provide them with attack ads against every Republican that voted no.

01:13 DaemonFC; I'd start with that. Lower the Medicare age to 55, and add benefits.

01:13 DaemonFC; Politics is often piecemeal. Stallman doesn't seem to get it.

01:14 DaemonFC; The Republicans are a brick wall of "no" and the Democrats are functioning as several different parties calling themselves the same thing.

01:14 DaemonFC; Jamming everything into one bill just doesn't work when one Senator that objects to any part of it can kill the entire thing.

01:15 DaemonFC; By expanding Medicare, we move the conversation in the other direction from where Reagan pushed it in the 1980s.

01:16 DaemonFC; "The billionaires are living longer, so the janitor has to wait longer to claim Social Security."

01:16 DaemonFC; The problem is also going on throughout Europe.

01:16 DaemonFC; It just keeps going up. They want you to die with nothing after paying payroll taxes forever.

01:17 DaemonFC; They can turn it into a perversion of itself. Poor people pay, the middle class lives into their 90s.

01:17 DaemonFC; It already happened to my aunt.

01:17 DaemonFC; She died at 56 in a car accident. She paid millions to Social Security.

01:18 DaemonFC; She didn't get anything. Nobody that was related to her inherited it.

01:18 DaemonFC; Some people can afford to retire before they claim Social Security, or cut their work hours and go into partial retirement, but have to keep full time or they lose their health insurance.

01:19 DaemonFC; Health insurance has become a carrot on a string in front of the plow horse.

01:20 DaemonFC; Tech companies now exist with apps on phones to spy on people with crappy prescription drug insurance, or none at all.

01:20 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Did I mention having to use one for Mandy a few times.

01:20 DaemonFC; GoodRX is SO STUPID. It charges the pharmacy to run some numbers, like $3 each time they do it, then it gives them a price and that's what they have to charge you.

01:21 DaemonFC; I talked to a pharmacist who says he runs an independent pharmacy (rare these days) and he just matches the price on the screen if that's what it says when he looks it up on his computer, and he does not contact GoodRX.

01:22 DaemonFC; Because GoodRX routes it through a PBM and they are the ones who have contracts with the pharmacy. The pharmacy goes along with it because no contract with PBMs means you can't accept any insurance plan that uses that PBM to negotiate their prices.

01:22 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: back on topic

01:22 schestowitz-TR; I have a question

01:22 DaemonFC; Then at the end of the month, the PBM sends their bill to the pharmacy.

01:23 schestowitz-TR; do you have much experience with "smart" things?

01:23 schestowitz-TR; meters

01:23 schestowitz-TR; microwaves

01:23 DaemonFC; So, that's where I'm going here.

01:23 schestowitz-TR; etc.

01:23 DaemonFC; GoodRX gets information about every patient who uses their app.

01:23 DaemonFC; Even though they're a middleman.

01:23 DaemonFC; Then they sell it to the drug companies, in addition to their kickbacks from the PBMs.

01:23 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> do you have much experience with "smart" things?

01:23 DaemonFC; I have a smart meter.

01:23 DaemonFC; No choice.

01:23 DaemonFC; It's the law.

01:24 schestowitz-TR; really?

01:24 DaemonFC; And I have a smart toothbrush, but I don't ever use it with an app.

01:24 schestowitz-TR; like, what if the home is old?

01:24 DaemonFC; The company comes out and replaces the meter.

01:24 DaemonFC; They tell you it benefits you in a lot of ways, including enabling "voltage optimization".

01:24 schestowitz-TR; are some companies in IL not imposing it?

01:25 TR News; PinePhone official keyboard case is finally available to purchase http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159781#comment-32373

01:25 TR Bot; PinePhone keyboard now available (Wireless charging, fingerprint, and LoRa cases too) | Tux Machines

01:25 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: those devices use up voltage?

01:25 schestowitz-TR; do they optimise their own energy suckage?

01:26 schestowitz-TR; I want to write articles on these things

01:26 schestowitz-TR; but I never put a pair of hands on them

01:26 DaemonFC; There's only one electric company in Illinois, and it's called Commonwealth Edision, but it's a subsidiary of Exelon. They also run most of the generating capacity in the state. You can sign up for another provider, but most of them just bill you for electricity and then sell carbon credits or some bullshit. Some run solar or wind and bill ComEd to put it in their system. You still get a bill from ComEd, but it says who your supplier is, and

01:26 DaemonFC; ComEd doesn't care.

01:26 schestowitz-TR; and don't have all the gadgets they come with regardless

01:26 DaemonFC; The real money is in the delivery, which is always going to ComEd.

01:26 DaemonFC; ComEd also gets a lot of bailouts from the state.

01:26 DaemonFC; They threaten our lawmakers with shutting down the nuclear plants if they don't get more.

01:27 schestowitz-TR; so they bill you twice

01:27 schestowitz-TR; 1) as customer

01:27 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> DaemonFC: those devices use up voltage? Well, presumably even the mechanical ones use some energy. They have to keep the dials spinning.

01:27 schestowitz-TR; 2) as taxpayer

01:27 schestowitz-TR; the true bill is a hidden one

01:27 DaemonFC; The new ones have a network connection over the power line and an LED display.

01:27 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> so they bill you twice

01:27 DaemonFC; Exactly.

01:27 schestowitz-TR; [01:27] <DaemonFC> <schestowitz-TR> DaemonFC: those devices use up voltage? Well, presumably even the mechanical ones use some energy. They have to keep the dials spinning.

01:28 schestowitz-TR; not the water ones

01:28 DaemonFC; They've gotten over $1.3 BILLION in bailouts over the nuclear threat in the past 6 years.

01:28 schestowitz-TR; afaik

01:28 DaemonFC; They did it twice to make each one look like a lower figure and then threatened to shut down different plants the second time.

01:28 DaemonFC; Then the bailout package from the Democrats called itself a "clean energy plan".

01:29 schestowitz-TR; people in IL would die in winter without electricity and/or gad

01:29 schestowitz-TR; *gas

01:29 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> people in IL would die in winter without electricity and/or gad

01:29 schestowitz-TR; so they blackmail people with lives as ransom

01:29 DaemonFC; Yes, most in Chicago have boiler units because it's more efficient but outside Chicago, electric is more common.

01:30 schestowitz-TR; it's common to have one supplier upstream

01:30 schestowitz-TR; but it identifies through proxies

01:30 schestowitz-TR; or tentacles

01:30 DaemonFC; Because of the "pandemic" the electric company (and the gas companies, I think, nothing I have uses gas) are prohibited from non-payment shutoffs.

01:30 schestowitz-TR; to give an impression of some competition

01:30 DaemonFC; And they threaten to raise rates because of this.

01:30 schestowitz-TR; banks can be the same

01:30 schestowitz-TR; Bank of England sets interest rates

01:30 schestowitz-TR; all the pertinent banks follow that

01:30 DaemonFC; Yes, the Federal Reserve sets banking policies, but it's a quasi-governmental entity.

01:31 schestowitz-TR; ok

01:31 DaemonFC; The president and the Senate appoint a board of Governors, but they're nearly all from the big banks.

01:31 schestowitz-TR; can you do some blog post about the spy meters?

01:31 DaemonFC; And the banks own shares in the Fed to be a member.

01:31 schestowitz-TR; I'm afraid I cannot say much except principles and theory

01:31 schestowitz-TR; I'm not hypocritical enough to adopt one just to study it

01:32 DaemonFC; There's a lot of politics involved in monetary policy. Presidents generally want easy money, and the banks don't care either.

01:32 DaemonFC; Because high inflation causes people to panic and spend, or "invest" into a stock market that's overvalued.

01:32 schestowitz-TR; worst case scenario: another bailour

01:32 schestowitz-TR; they call it "stimulus"

01:32 DaemonFC; They don't like "savers" and they blame "savers" for recessions.

01:32 schestowitz-TR; as if the plunder if to stimulate "the economy"

01:32 DaemonFC; This is "Keynesian Economics".

01:32 schestowitz-TR; and to benefit you

01:32 DaemonFC; It's bullshit. It's imaginary growth.

01:32 schestowitz-TR; but you are the one paying

01:33 DaemonFC; Japan has been down this road.

01:33 schestowitz-TR; so in effect they say, GIMME ALL YOU MONEY!!

01:33 DaemonFC; Right, you can have as much growth as you want with unlimited inflation.

01:33 DaemonFC; It's funny how that works, right?

01:33 schestowitz-TR; [01:32] <DaemonFC> Because high inflation causes people to panic and spend, or "invest" into a stock market that's overvalued.

01:33 schestowitz-TR; ^yes, this

01:33 schestowitz-TR; and then they lose the money

01:33 schestowitz-TR; "bad investment, sorry"

01:34 schestowitz-TR; so better to stay with 0% interest

01:34 DaemonFC; They have "funds".

01:34 schestowitz-TR; than a market where companies that lose money are said to be worth trillions

01:34 DaemonFC; Technically, Mandy is a part-owner in Microsoft.

01:34 DaemonFC; Because I had to invest his money in a fund to take the Walmart match.

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01:35 DaemonFC; Small cap stocks are too risky because they don't have a war chest of money to deal with long recessions and speculations that don't pan out.

01:35 schestowitz-TR; or lobbying

01:35 schestowitz-TR; or "creative" accounting

01:35 DaemonFC; It's better to invest in a bunch of big companies that can sink a malinvestment or three with divisions that make money, bailouts, tax cheating, etc.

01:36 DaemonFC; Yeah, I mean it's perverse.

01:36 DaemonFC; But that's how they're less "volatile".

01:36 schestowitz-TR; it is

01:36 schestowitz-TR; you have several option

01:36 schestowitz-TR; 1) don't save too much

01:36 schestowitz-TR; 2) related to (1): don't work too hard

01:36 DaemonFC; Working less is an investment, schestowitz-TR

01:36 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 9.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 169.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 245.76

01:36 schestowitz-TR; 3) don't spend much, or ensure you already have enough of what you will need

01:36 DaemonFC; If you work less, you expose less of your total money to taxation.

01:37 schestowitz-TR; not stockpiling food, that can spoil

01:37 DaemonFC; Your marginal tax rate goes down.

01:37 schestowitz-TR; it's a special case

01:37 AdmFubar1; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-skype-makes-you-solve-a-complex-captcha-10-times-to-sign-up/

01:37 Alternative link; Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-skype-makes-you-solve-a-complex-captcha-10-times-to-sign-up/

01:37 TR Bot; Microsoft Skype makes you solve a complex captcha 10 times to sign up

01:37 schestowitz-TR; AdmFubar1: good

01:37 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Well, cat food lasts a couple of years.

01:37 schestowitz-TR; I hope people find learning jitsi faster

01:37 schestowitz-TR; than doing this crap

01:37 DaemonFC; You can buffer cat food if you grab the latest expiration date bags and then rotate your stock.

01:38 DaemonFC; That can be a good way to toss a few hundred bucks away, which they can't destroy.

01:38 schestowitz-TR; but you need much storage space for it

01:38 DaemonFC; If you have cats. :)

01:38 schestowitz-TR; and if you move that becomes a burden too

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01:38 DaemonFC; I don't plan to move anytime soon if I can possibly avoid it.

01:38 DaemonFC; It costs money to move.

01:39 schestowitz-TR; [01:37] <DaemonFC> Your marginal tax rate goes down.

01:39 DaemonFC; The real estate market where we're at is dead.

01:39 schestowitz-TR; with a spouse it works out better

01:39 schestowitz-TR; if both of you work

01:39 DaemonFC; Which puts out some of the rent inflation fire.

01:39 schestowitz-TR; you do not get taxed as a pair

01:40 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I worked out our marginal tax rate for this year. Technically we'll be in a 10% bracket, but our marginal federal income tax rate should only be about 3 or 4%.

01:40 DaemonFC; I told Mandy to slow it down last year. We went on vacation and instead of using his personal time, he just took days off with no pay.

01:40 DaemonFC; Then he didn't use PTO for Thanksgiving or Christmas.

01:41 DaemonFC; I know the tax code.

01:41 DaemonFC; I always aim to minimize.

01:41 DaemonFC; For 2020, our marginal tax rate was negative 0.78%.

01:42 schestowitz-TR; I've just taken a calculator

01:42 DaemonFC; And that was before the tuition credit I took, which was refundable.

01:42 DaemonFC; So that made our tax rate closer to -8%.

01:42 schestowitz-TR; 21% of my income goes to tax, inclusive of full health coverage (NHS)

01:42 schestowitz-TR; and inc. pension

01:42 schestowitz-TR; so really it's 21% for pension+health+tax

01:42 DaemonFC; Well, Social Security and Medicare are flat taxes, so nothing to be done about those.

01:43 DaemonFC; State taxes income at 4.95%, but we each get a personal exemption.

01:43 schestowitz-TR; the more your work, the less you get paid (per effort)

01:43 DaemonFC; But the state starts at the federal AGI.

01:43 schestowitz-TR; it's really dead simple

01:43 AdmFubar1; https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/12/why-is-the-uks-national-health-service-being-run-by-former-investment-bankers.html

01:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nakedcapitalism.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/12/why-is-the-uks-national-health-service-being-run-by-former-investment-bankers.html

01:43 TR Bot; Why Is the UK's National Health Service Being Run by Former Bankers? | naked capitalism

01:43 schestowitz-TR; unless you are a tax-ecading oligarch

01:43 DaemonFC; So if you can earn less at the federal level, you may be able to protect a lot of it from the state too.

01:43 schestowitz-TR; *evading

01:43 schestowitz-TR; then you are 'untouchable'

01:44 DaemonFC; Because you start on the AGI (1040) or MAGI (1040EZ) line for state Total Income.

01:44 schestowitz-TR; how to raise your income

01:44 schestowitz-TR; 1) work less (more per hour)

01:44 schestowitz-TR; 2) work less per time

01:45 schestowitz-TR; (2) is not the same as (1)

01:45 schestowitz-TR; I know people who work a net of 60-70 hours per week

01:45 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I deliberately filed our taxes using the 1040EZ for 2020 because the MAGI line produces a higher figure than the AGI line on the 1040. And you get to claim whatever the AGI or MAGI is for the form you used for their part on the immigration sponsorship.

01:45 schestowitz-TR; then they have litttle personal life

01:45 DaemonFC; So even though we had negative taxes, I got us above the minimum required level for immigration on the same form.

01:45 schestowitz-TR; they get taxed like half their total income

01:45 DaemonFC; I'm proud of that.

01:46 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I was sweating bullets.

01:46 DaemonFC; One way it wouldn't be enough, the other way it was barely enough and they had to accept it.

01:46 DaemonFC; Even our lawyer had to follow my logic.

01:47 DaemonFC; She asked what the hell I was talking about with the MAGI line.

01:47 DaemonFC; I said "Read this regulation for me.".

01:47 DaemonFC; So I pulled a lot of legal maneuvers between everything I had to get done in 2019 and 2021.

01:48 DaemonFC; And I got the better of a lot of people, honestly.

01:48 DaemonFC; He who lives by the sword dies by the sword.

01:49 DaemonFC; They put out all of these rules and regulations and procedures.

01:49 TR News; Why Is the UK's National Health Service Being Run by Former Bankers? https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/12/why-is-the-uks-national-health-service-being-run-by-former-investment-bankers.html #nhs also outsources our data. 'Monetising' it? #tories hate public health. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/NHS

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01:49 TR Bot; Why Is the UK's National Health Service Being Run by Former Bankers? | naked capitalism

01:49 TR Bot; NHS - Techrights

01:49 AdmFubar1; yours could be a death by a thousand paper cuts

01:49 DaemonFC; And they're not ready for a guy like me who sits down and crams for what he needs to do.

01:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Well, I told Mandy to take those days unpaid because PTO eventually turns into PPTO when it overflows the maximum you're allowed to have.

01:50 DaemonFC; And PPTO can cover unexcused absences and they can't punish you for it.

01:50 TR News; #theguardian coverage of #covid19 and #jeffreyepstein is incredibly dishonst. It's like #billgates runs their paper and Web site. Oh, wait. He bribes them repeatedly... http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/

01:50 AdmFubar1; https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/jan/03/are-you-having-a-laugh-why-nhs-doctors-will-soon-be-prescribing-a-dose-of-comedy

01:50 TR Bot; Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | Techrights

01:50 TR Bot; Are you having a laugh? Why NHS doctors will soon be prescribing a dose of comedy | Health & wellbeing | The Guardian

01:51 DaemonFC; At the same time, taking the time off unpaid lowers your tax rate at the end of the year a bit.

01:51 schestowitz-TR; AdmFubar1: some 'journalism', eh?

01:52 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1071858423438954497

01:52 TR Bot; @guardian Come for the enormous penis and brown olive recipes. Stay for the front page fabricated news stories on J https://t.co/XtwLxB0PR4

01:52 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1071905591281487872

01:52 TR Bot; Come for the enormous penis. Stay for the front page fabricated news stories on Julian Assange. Bonus: how the UK o https://t.co/hrna1d9Htk

01:52 TR Bot; Come for the enormous penis. Stay for the front page fabricated news stories on Julian Assange. Bonus: how the UK o https://t.co/hrna1d9Htk

01:52 DaemonFC; I'd rather lower the tax rate, because declaring more income causes the IRS to turn around and tax ME more as well.

01:53 DaemonFC; Then we lose twice.

01:53 DaemonFC; It's basically a lose-lose. If Mandy earns that $800 he left on the table by not using PTO, the IRS will end up taking about $400 of it anyway when they get done with me.

01:54 DaemonFC; Then that sets us up for an even bigger problem.

01:54 DaemonFC; Because he didn't withhold at least 90% of the higher obligation, then if the same thing happens next year, we owe a penalty plus interest on the amount that was under-withheld.

01:55 DaemonFC; The IRS is a real sticky wicket.

01:55 TR News; ad

01:55 DaemonFC; It's hard to tell what to do with them sometimes, schestowitz

01:55 DaemonFC; The conservation of energy principle kicks in at a certain point.

01:55 DaemonFC; And there's not much incentive to work more at that point.

01:56 TR News; "One consequence of the importation of a DoE (Doctrine of Equivalents) into the EPC is that it wipes out the ages-old maxim that what comes after and infringes would, if coming before, destroy novelty." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/12/breaking-board-of-appeal-finds-no-legal.html?showComment=1641232327272#c8020824953596876422

01:56 TR Bot; Board of Appeal finds no legal basis for the requirement to amend the description in line with the claims (T 1989/18) - The IPKat

01:57 DaemonFC; I've never lied to the IRS, but I've damned sure declared every proper deduction that applies.

01:57 DaemonFC; Felta has lied on his taxes before.

01:57 schestowitz; #uspto as #microsoft pusher https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/01/uspto-news-briefs.html see http://techrights.org/2021/11/20/microsoft-captured-uspto/ and http://techrights.org/2021/11/29/microsoft-vidal/

01:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: patentdocs.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/01/uspto-news-briefs.html

01:57 TR Bot; Patent Docs: USPTO News Briefs

01:57 TR Bot; Microsoft-Captured USPTO Doubles the Fines for Patent Applicants That Dont Use Microsoft | Techrights

01:57 TR Bot; President Biden Wants to Put Microsofter in Charge of the Patent Office, Soon to Penalise Patent Applicants Who Dont Use Microsofts Proprietary Formats | Techrights

01:57 DaemonFC; He'd make "donations" like an obsolete computer to the Salvation Army and then take a deduction that was many times what it was worth.

01:58 DaemonFC; It's too late for them to audit. At least the parts I know about. They happened in the 90s.

01:58 DaemonFC; What are you going to do? Call the IRS on your parents?

01:58 TR News; #watchtroll : "While Chief Justice Roberts did not mention the Western District of Texas by name, that is what he is concerned about, which is clear from his reference to Senators expressing concern concern that has been expressed relative to patent case assignment in the Western District of Texas."

01:58 DaemonFC; Actually, if I'd known then what I know now, I would have.

01:59 TR News; "U.S. #antitrust enforcers carried out dramatic efforts to combat anticompetitive conduct last year, and all signs show that the aggressive efforts will continue in 2022." https://www.law360.com/retail/articles/1449975/the-antitrust-conduct-cases-to-watch-in-2022

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01:59 TR Bot; Antitrust Conduct Cases To Watch In 2022 - Law360

01:59 AdmFubar1; https://www.osnews.com/story/134402/wine-gets-ported-to-haiku/

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01:59 TR Bot; gets ported to Haiku OSnews

01:59 DaemonFC; I watched my parents lie to the IRS every tax year and then, well, I don't think my mom deliberately played a hand in that.

2 AM, January 4

02:00 DaemonFC; He probably just said "Goddamn it, sign here!".

02:00 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159864 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

02:00 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

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02:01 DaemonFC; My thoughts on the IRS are nobody likes them, nobody likes taxes, few people get audited, but if you are one they audit, you should have nothing to hide. If you did something wrong, the consequences aren't worth it.

02:02 DaemonFC; And oddly, that's how I've approached most things in life, and the states busted me for a couple of misdemeanors I didn't even do anyway.

02:02 schestowitz-TR; propublica did some good investigations on irs

02:02 schestowitz-TR; i think that was before famous criminal bill gates started bribing them

02:02 schestowitz-TR; they had even covered microsoft's irs battles

02:02 DaemonFC; The big reason everyone hates the IRS, or at least the middle class.....

02:03 DaemonFC; The middle class sees it as the rich don't pay taxes, the poor get on all of these benefit programs, and then the IRS pays them as well.

02:03 DaemonFC; Then it promotes this mentality where the middle class feels entitled to tell some whoppers.

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02:03 schestowitz-TR; it's an international problem

02:03 DaemonFC; "Nobody else is pulling their weight around here, so why should I?"

02:04 schestowitz-TR; and if the robber barons dislike the policy, then they threaten to move

02:04 schestowitz-TR; it's a strategy

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02:04 DaemonFC; We're in a system where almost nobody pays for what they use.

02:04 schestowitz-TR; well, wait

02:04 schestowitz-TR; you pay

02:05 schestowitz-TR; but...

02:05 DaemonFC; The poor and the rich get the most benefit out of the tax system.

02:05 schestowitz-TR; it's called national debt

02:05 schestowitz-TR; it's like a shadow bank balance

02:05 DaemonFC; Yes, for now that covers it up.

02:05 schestowitz-TR; Ryan Farmer

02:05 DaemonFC; It's not due yet, so party time!

02:05 schestowitz-TR; bank balance, nominal: 10,000 USD

02:05 DaemonFC; Everyone gets 10 or 15 times more than they paid for.

02:05 schestowitz-TR; national balance: -250,000 USD

02:05 schestowitz-TR; dependent/spouse

02:05 DaemonFC; While things collapse and the "credit cards" load up.

02:06 schestowitz-TR; another -250,00 USD

02:06 schestowitz-TR; so in your lifetime you will need to pay a lot and maybe go to war with those who claim you owe them this much

02:06 schestowitz-TR; plus, there are other fees on top of it

02:06 DaemonFC; The United States right now is like a house that nobody is taking care of while the occupants live on credit cards.

02:06 DaemonFC; And everyone thinks this is fine because it hasn't all collapsed, yet.

02:06 schestowitz-TR; this is where gates and wall street derive their 'wealth' from

02:07 schestowitz-TR; your minuses, collectively, are their pluses

02:07 schestowitz-TR; marisol is worse off than you

02:07 schestowitz-TR; she collects useless shoe racks

02:08 schestowitz-TR; with crap made in sweatshops

02:08 DaemonFC; https://www.vice.com/en/article/wd7ebz/i-worked-at-golden-corral-and-it-was-disgusting

02:08 schestowitz-TR; so she has debt on top of the national debt

02:08 TR Bot; I Worked at Golden Corral, and It Was Disgusting

02:08 DaemonFC; Buffets reuse leftover food, and that's not a secret.

02:08 DaemonFC; And not a bad thing.

02:08 schestowitz-TR; and her living expenses that she is accustomed to are insatiable

02:08 DaemonFC; It's still perfectly safe to cook into something else for breakfast the next morning.

02:08 DaemonFC; That allows them to keep prices down and it lowers emissions and food waste.

02:09 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> and her living expenses that she is accustomed to are insatiable

02:09 DaemonFC; That's why they work 70+ hour weeks and brag about it.

02:09 schestowitz-TR; wow

02:09 schestowitz-TR; idiots!

02:09 DaemonFC; They have to do that to make minimum payments on stuff they never enjoy.

02:09 schestowitz-TR; so they live like japanese

02:10 DaemonFC; They almost lost their house to foreclosure a few years ago.

02:10 schestowitz-TR; and cannot throttle up

02:10 DaemonFC; And got sued by some credit card companies as well.

02:10 schestowitz-TR; as they already use up their full bodily capacity

02:10 DaemonFC; They have three car payments on things that are not practical or reliable.

02:10 schestowitz-TR; if I worked 70 hours a week, then no techrights

02:10 DaemonFC; Then they speed so much they racked up over $1,000 in fines.

02:11 DaemonFC; Which I'm sure was great for their insurance rates.

02:11 schestowitz-TR; rianne's base work is 16 hours a week

02:11 schestowitz-TR; mine 36

02:11 DaemonFC; And instead of slowing down, MARISOL got a radar detector BUILT INTO THE CAR.

02:11 DaemonFC; For over $1,000.

02:11 schestowitz-TR; a fine would be cheaper

02:11 DaemonFC; Yeah, those things are a cat and mouse game too.

02:11 schestowitz-TR; also, not accurate

02:12 schestowitz-TR; iirc, they make assumptions about frequency and other people reporting outposts

02:12 schestowitz-TR; some become less visible

02:12 DaemonFC; You buy one that can detect X band, the cops switch to K band. You switch to an X and K band, they switch to Ku band, you buy a X, K, and Ku, they start using Ka.

02:12 schestowitz-TR; they ambush better

02:12 DaemonFC; Or LIDAR.

02:12 DaemonFC; Both hard to detect.

02:12 DaemonFC; Now your system goes off because of motion sensors at the grocery stores and misses the cops.

02:12 schestowitz-TR; so you get a false sense of security

02:12 schestowitz-TR; and go over speed limit

02:12 MinceR; get ahead of the curve with a stealth fighter/bomber

02:12 DaemonFC; Yes, I used a radar detector once, schestowitz-TR

02:13 schestowitz-TR; slowing down is cheaper than these gadgets

02:13 MinceR; if your time is worthless :>

02:13 DaemonFC; It was such a false sense of security that I started getting pulled over with it when I had never been pulled over without it.

02:13 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: I remember that joke

02:13 DaemonFC; I got three warning tickets somehow and then threw the detector out and slowed down.

02:13 schestowitz-TR; I never got a ticket

02:13 schestowitz-TR; didn't even get pulled over

02:14 DaemonFC; On your fourth warning ticket, Indiana gives you a ticket and a fine for getting 4 warnings.

02:14 MinceR; i never got a ticket for speeding and didn't get pulled over

02:14 MinceR; even though i probably drive more than schestowitz-TR :>

02:14 DaemonFC; So I got pulled over again years later with the same driver's license number, because that doesn't change unless you move to another state.

02:15 DaemonFC; The cop says "I see you have three warnings. Last one was from several years ago. I don't think you deserve a ticket. So, this officially never happened. Just slow the fuck down.".

02:15 schestowitz-TR; cool

02:15 MinceR; > slow the fuck down

02:15 MinceR; https://www.nyest.hu/media/kameraval-vedekezik-fucking.jpg?large

02:15 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: fsck slowlyt

02:16 MinceR; indeed

02:16 schestowitz-TR; the "slowmo" scenario?

02:16 schestowitz-TR; "but baby, the cop told me to"

02:17 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: ah that place in germany

02:17 schestowitz-TR; very unfortunate

02:17 MinceR; austria

02:17 schestowitz-TR; and source of endless jokes

02:17 MinceR; i don't see anything unfortunate about it

02:17 schestowitz-TR; who goes to fucking austria anyway?

02:17 MinceR; many people around here do

02:18 schestowitz-TR; they come back when they get tired of fucking

02:19 DaemonFC; They renamed that.

02:19 DaemonFC; It's Fugging now.

02:20 schestowitz-TR; they still need some famous austrian

02:20 MinceR; yeah, they've spurdoified it

02:20 schestowitz-TR; as the most famous austrian is the most reviled person in modern times

02:20 MinceR; replacing the signs with engraved boulders would have been cheaper and cleverer

02:20 MinceR; some other place did that

02:20 DaemonFC; The Fucking mayor got sick of the Fucking people stealing the Fucking sign. And when the Fucking mayor replaced the Fucking sign, sure enough....the Fucking police would find some Fucking teenagers fucking fucking in front of the Fucking sign.

02:21 DaemonFC; Hmmm.

02:21 DaemonFC; The one major downside about buying eyeglasses from Zenni.

02:21 DaemonFC; It takes forever unless you pay them to put a rush on it.

02:22 MinceR; https://i.imgur.com/vEkbkwe.jpg

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02:22 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Zenni had an FAQ last year saying "If my glasses are made in China, will they have the Coronavirus on them when they arrive?".

02:22 DaemonFC; I said, "No, but soon your country will be overflowing with it and a pair of Chinese eyeglasses will be the least of your concerns.

02:23 schestowitz-TR; the person who blew the whistle on it and died was an ophthalmologist iirc

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02:31 TR News; Links 4/1/2022: #UbuntuDDE Remix 21.10 and Libreboots Binary Blob Policy Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/01/03/ubuntudde-remix-21-10/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/03/ubuntudde-remix-21-10/

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02:31 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: if you wrote about spy meters, I'd be very interested in reading that

02:32 schestowitz-TR; not like a meter reading

02:32 schestowitz-TR; as I want to know where this lunacy is headed

02:32 schestowitz-TR; like, do some of these come with microphones ("assistant") already?

02:32 DaemonFC; No, it's somewhere else in the building.

02:33 DaemonFC; They wouldn't let Mandy sign up for an electric account because they couldn't verify his SSN.

02:33 TR News; "I would generally disagree or not associate, including spiritual healers who tell me how 5G is unbalancing our auras (about which I have no evidence)." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-030122.html#tJan%2003%2021:37:15

02:33 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, January 03, 2022

02:34 TR News; "they could have sent him to therapists and asked for apology to Microsofters ;-)" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-030122.html#tJan%2003%2002:13:39

02:34 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, January 03, 2022

02:34 DaemonFC; Maybe the one good thing Governor Pritzker did was stop the electric company from charging a $150 deposit to people with bad credit.

02:34 TR News; #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159865 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

02:34 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines

02:34 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159866 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

02:34 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

02:34 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: not credit

02:34 schestowitz-TR; debt

02:35 DaemonFC; I had to hook us up last year when my credit was in the toilet.

02:35 schestowitz-TR; don't use their words

02:35 schestowitz-TR; take back meaningful vocab

02:35 DaemonFC; I cycle between credit cards depending on what I'm paying.

02:35 DaemonFC; I get $500-600 a year by doing that, and the best part is the IRS can't touch it.

02:36 DaemonFC; They declared you don't have to pay taxes on credit card rewards because they are "rebates".

02:36 TR News; "Canadian political scientist warns his country must face 'horrible' possibility of US becoming a 'right-wing dictatorship' by 2030" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-030122.html#tJan%2003%2018:59:04

02:36 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, January 03, 2022

02:37 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.15 k/sec., IPFS upstream 94.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 245.73

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02:38 TR News; 'Secure' Boot fails http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-030122.html#tJan%2003%2004:56:03

02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, January 03, 2022

02:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, It's obvious why.

02:39 DaemonFC; The St. Louis Fed researched it.

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02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, January 03, 2022

02:39 DaemonFC; They published how much money poor people who pay with cash lose to these credit card reward schemes and how much rich people made in points.

02:40 TR News; NEWS Fixing stutters in Papers Please on Linux https://blog.jhm.dev/posts/papers-please/

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02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, January 03, 2022

02:40 TR News; NEWS #Xe Converting a #VRChat Avatar to VRM Format for VTubing https://christine.website/blog/vrchat-avatar-to-vrm-vtubing-2022-01-02

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02:40 TR Bot; Converting a VRChat Avatar to VRM Format for VTubing - Xe

02:40 TR News; NEWS #Geshan Using Redis with docker and docker-compose for local development a step-by-step tutorial https://geshan.com.np/blog/2022/01/redis-docker/

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02:40 TR Bot; Using Redis with docker and docker-compose for local development a step-by-step tutorial

02:41 TR News; NEWS #ComputersAreBad secret military telephone buttons https://computer.rip/2022-01-01-secret-military-telephone-buttons.html

02:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: computer.rip | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://computer.rip/2022-01-01-secret-military-telephone-buttons.html

02:41 TR Bot; Computers Are Bad

02:41 TR News; NEWS #Talospace #IBM #CentOS 8 Is An Ex-Distro (But #AlmaLinux Is Not) https://www.talospace.com/2022/01/centos-8-is-ex-distro-but-almalinux-is.html

02:41 TR Bot; CentOS 8 is an ex-distro (but AlmaLinux is not)

02:42 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I put all of our autopay bills on my 1.5% cashback for everything card. That's the best non-bonus rate I have on any of them right now.

02:42 DaemonFC; Gas and restaurants are 4% permanently on another one, and 5% on different quarters on another card.

02:43 DaemonFC; Supermarkets are 2% permanently on one, Walmart.com is 5% on the Walmart one and 2% in the store.

02:43 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-01-03.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-01-03.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)

02:43 DaemonFC; Thanks to Brandon, the 4% on gas throughout the year has been nice.

02:44 schestowitz-TR; lol Brandon

02:44 schestowitz-TR; let's go

02:45 schestowitz-TR; let's goaustraia

02:45 schestowitz-TR; let's go Austria

02:45 DaemonFC; https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22454885/who-pays-for-credit-card-rewards

02:45 TR Bot; card rewards, points, and miles are paid for by Americas poor - Vox

02:45 DaemonFC; Stavins is the co-author of a recent paper from the Boston Fed that looked at who winds up paying for credit card reward purchases. They found that in the US, high-income consumers pay an average of $13 less per month through retail prices, and low-income people pay 60 cents more, because of swipe fees on merchants. Rich consumers spend more overall on fees, but its because they spend more in general. When it comes to a percentage o

02:45 DaemonFC; f transaction values, its poorer people who lose out.

02:45 DaemonFC; So lets say I spend $1,000 on my purchases and you spend $100. I may spend more in terms of all the different fees and surcharges and cost of credit card transactions that merchants will transfer to higher retail prices. But in terms of the percentage, Ill pay a lot smaller fraction than you are, Stavins said.

02:46 DaemonFC; I get a lot more than $13 a month in rewards.

02:46 schestowitz; '\Government Debt in the United States decreased to 28907987 USD Million in November from 28908765 USD Million in October of 2021."

02:46 schestowitz; https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt

02:46 TR Bot; United States Government Debt | 2022 Data | 2023 Forecast | 1942-2021 Historical

02:46 schestowitz; no update in two months

02:47 DaemonFC; It decreases sometimes because of revenue going in.

02:47 DaemonFC; Many people either pay their taxes quarterly or square up at the end of the year.

02:47 DaemonFC; Ron White made a joke about this.

02:47 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Debt_Clock

02:47 TR Bot; National Debt Clock - Wikipedia

02:47 schestowitz; https://www.durst.org/about/clock

02:47 TR Bot; The Durst Organization

02:48 DaemonFC; He said he was in trouble with the IRS because when you're an independent contractor you have to file your taxes quarterly, "which I took to mean every 25 years".

02:48 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^

02:48 MinceR; lol

02:49 DaemonFC; I wish I could find the unit of government that's ONLY a pest every 25 years.

02:49 DaemonFC; Most of them manage to become one at least once a year or so.

02:49 DaemonFC; At different parts of the year.

02:49 DaemonFC; So they're always in your hair.

02:49 TR News; "When the debt exceeded $10 trillion in September 2008, one more digit was added." https://www.durst.org/about/clock soon $30 trillion exceeded. The US economy died over a decade ago, but the media is in denial about it. "BORROW MORE, GO SHOPPING, PEASANTS!"

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02:49 schestowitz-TR; forkbombe: "age is just a number" -> "debt is just a number"

02:50 schestowitz-TR; "cancer is just a diagnosis"

02:50 DaemonFC; They were writing fantasy documents under Clinton about the national debt being fully paid off by 2011.

02:50 DaemonFC; And how the world economy, which NEEDS US Treasuries you know, would get by.

02:51 forkbombe; schestowitz-TR: well sure, but why point that wisdom my way?

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02:51 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, One of the "news" outfits was writing about how the world needed the United States for "stability" and "peace".

02:52 DaemonFC; Which is funny, because every time they poll people in any other country about who they think the biggest threat to world peace is, it's the United States.

02:52 TR News; In terms of #debt the US is becoming #japan (maybe 100-hour work week soon?) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_public_debt#/media/File:US_Federal_Debt_Held_By_Public_as_of_Sep._2020.png

02:52 TR Bot; History of the United States public debt - Wikipedia

02:52 DaemonFC; And it's not hard to see why. Who is always at war? Who is usually causing the war?

02:52 DaemonFC; Who refuses to sign treaties on human rights and cluster bombs and nuclear test bans?

02:53 schestowitz-TR; also land mines

02:53 DaemonFC; Trump was gearing up to start testing nuclear weapons again.

02:53 DaemonFC; At least that's what he said he'd do.

02:53 DaemonFC; States aren't going to sign up to be nuked.

02:53 schestowitz-TR; under Donald Biden J Joe Trump

02:53 DaemonFC; Nobody is going to put up with that!

02:53 schestowitz-TR; iirc, biden maintains that same policy

02:54 AdmFubar1; https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211229/08580848194/sci-hubs-creator-thinks-academic-publishers-not-her-site-are-real-threat-to-science-says-any-law-against-knowledge-is.shtml

02:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211229/08580848194/sci-hubs-creator-thinks-academic-publishers-not-her-site-are-real-threat-to-science-says-any-law-against-knowledge-is.shtml

02:54 TR Bot; Creator Thinks Academic Publishers, Not Her Site, Are The Real Threat To Science, And Says: 'Any Law Against Knowledge Is Fundamentally Unjust' | Techdirt

02:54 DaemonFC; The nuclear tests are unacceptable.

02:54 TR News; NEWS #CarlSvensson #OpenHardware Decades of Fun: Computers Built to Last: The Amiga as "a computer built to last 50 years" https://www.datagubbe.se/30yearcomp/

02:54 TR Bot; of Fun: Computers Built to Last | datagubbe.se

02:54 DaemonFC; He figures blow up a few nukes on Nevada or something.

02:54 DaemonFC; "Own the libs!"

02:54 DaemonFC; He would do that just for theater.

02:54 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: US usually tests it on some islands

02:54 schestowitz-TR; in spite of their inhabitants

02:55 schestowitz-TR; russia tosses these in distant and remote areas

02:55 schestowitz-TR; which never will become inhabitable

02:55 schestowitz; DaemonFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Public_debt_percent_of_GDP.pdf

02:55 TR Bot; File:Public debt percent of GDP.pdf - Wikipedia

02:55 schestowitz; stops at 2016

02:56 DaemonFC; "We don't talk about that anymore."

02:57 TR News; By some measures, US actually eclipsed 30 trillion in debt when #covid19 started https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Federal_State_and_Local_debt.webp meanwhile (2012): https://www.reuters.com/article/us-offshore-wealth-idUSBRE86L03U20120722

02:57 TR Bot; File:Federal State and Local debt.webp - Wikipedia

02:57 TR Bot; rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens | Reuters

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02:57 DaemonFC; https://www.bostonfed.org/publications/public-policy-discussion-paper/2010/who-gains-and-who-loses-from-credit-card-payments-theory-and-calibrations.aspx

02:57 TR Bot; Who Gains and Who Loses from Credit Card Payments? Theory and Calibrations - Federal Reserve Bank of Boston

02:57 TR News; NEWS #Programming Increasing Bus Factor https://matt-rickard.com/reducing-bus-factor/

02:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/reducing-bus-factor/

02:57 TR Bot; Increasing Bus Factor

02:57 TR News; NEWS #RubenSchade #Programming Redundancy in IT isnt https://rubenerd.com/redundancy-in-it-isnt/

02:57 TR Bot; Redundancy in IT isnt

02:58 DaemonFC; "On average, each cash-using household pays $149 to card-using households and each card-using household receives $1,133 from cash users every year. Because credit card spending and rewards are positively correlated with household income, the payment instrument transfer also induces a regressive transfer from low-income to high-income households in general. On average, and after accounting for rewards paid to households by banks, the

02:58 DaemonFC; lowest-income household ($20,000 or less annually) pays $21 and the highest-income household ($150,000 or more annually) receives $750 every year."

02:59 DaemonFC; It's a transfer payment from the poor to the rich.

02:59 DaemonFC; If you use cash like Stallman says to, you lose money to these rich fucks who run around with rewards cards.

02:59 DaemonFC; The more you spend, the more you lose to the people with the cards.

3 AM, January 4

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03:02 TR News; US Federal, State & Local debt is at almost $32 trillion last year. That's significantly more than the total GDP, which very very obviously is faked anyway (the companies that's tied to are grossly overvalued to keep the #pyramidScheme afloat). For comparison, a year ago #uk national debt was 2,206.5 billion and we DO NOT claim to have (fake) trillion-dollar companies...

03:02 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: researching some numbers

03:02 schestowitz-TR; US is in serious trauma

03:02 schestowitz-TR; no wonder my sister sees so many homeless

03:02 schestowitz-TR; you're the lucky onew

03:02 schestowitz-TR; with sleeping bag in your home

03:03 schestowitz-TR; to avoid energy bills north of $200

03:04 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_public_debt

03:04 TR Bot; Canadian public debt - Wikipedia

03:05 TR News; "Canadian's debt held by foreign investors passed from 15% to 27% with a peak at 30% in 20122013. Even if growing, this level is still lower than or comparable to most G7 countries in 2013-2014 (France, 64%, Germany, 62%, United States, 48%, Italy, 33%, United Kingdom, 29%, and Japan, 8%)." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_public_debt

03:06 schestowitz; General Government Gross Debt, Percent of GDP

03:06 schestowitz; Japan235.4254.1

03:06 schestowitz; Greece184.9211.2

03:06 schestowitz; Italy134.6155.8

03:06 schestowitz; Singapore129.0154.9

03:06 schestowitz; Portugal116.6135.2

03:06 schestowitz; United States108.5133.9

03:06 schestowitz; Spain95.5119.9

03:06 schestowitz; Canada86.8117.5

03:07 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprisonment_for_debt_(Upper_Canada)

03:07 TR Bot; Imprisonment for debt (Upper Canada) - Wikipedia

03:07 schestowitz; the most pointless policy

03:07 schestowitz; we'll put you in prison

03:07 schestowitz; free food

03:07 schestowitz; no contribution to society

03:07 schestowitz; as punishment for being in debt

03:08 schestowitz; "The number of debtors jailed was the result of both widespread poverty, and the small amounts for which debtors could be indefinitely detained."

03:08 schestowitz; "The biggest difference between England and Upper Canada was that there was no separate jail for debtors in Upper Canada, leading to much worse conditions for jailed debtors. Insolvency laws were designed to protect creditors"

03:09 DaemonFC; Canada has debt prisons?

03:09 schestowitz-TR; not anymore

03:09 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprisonment_for_debt_(Upper_Canada)#/media/File:BankofUpperCanada.jpg

03:09 TR Bot; Imprisonment for debt (Upper Canada) - Wikipedia

03:09 DaemonFC; About all they can do here is annoy you about it, maybe sue you, possibly get something if you make more than about $2,000 a month.

03:10 DaemonFC; That's why suing poor people is a dead end and any lawyer that's being honest will tell you to drop it.

03:10 DaemonFC; Unless they hit the lottery, you're never getting any money.

03:14 schestowitz; DaemonFC: tarpoline http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/The-Corona-Times/Roy-s-Birthdays/image-0-02-08-e4e7a46a5bac19d7d7ba97ede72015e43e21d13a02ba16a84148a03b3bab45bd-V

03:14 TR Bot; image-0-02-08-e4e7a46a5bac19d7d7ba97ede72015e43e21d13a02ba16a84148a03b3bab45bd-V

03:14 schestowitz; very typical there...

03:15 schestowitz; DaemonFC: the media does a poor job covering these issue, if at all

03:16 schestowitz; not too shockingly

03:16 schestowitz; given its motivations

03:16 schestowitz; marisol is dead fish

03:16 schestowitz; even those cancel patients won't be able to pay

03:16 schestowitz; the media blames corona

03:16 schestowitz; as if the economies were rosy before that

03:17 schestowitz; "|blame NATURE!"

03:17 schestowitz; Trump: blame "CHOOOINA"

03:17 schestowitz; Biden: blame TRUMP!

03:18 TR News; NEWS #ModernDiplomacy #Education Qatar, like Saudi Arabia and the UAE, but unlike Kuwait, cleanses its textbooks https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/01/03/qatar-like-saudi-arabia-and-the-uae-but-unlike-kuwait-cleanses-its-textbooks/

03:18 TR Bot; Qatar, like Saudi Arabia and the UAE, but unlike Kuwait, cleanses its textbooks - Modern Diplomacy

03:21 TR News; NEWS #Health New Brunswicks Mystery Disease: Why Did the Province Shut Out Federal Experts? https://thewalrus.ca/new-brunswicks-medical-mystery/

03:21 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thewalrus.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thewalrus.ca/new-brunswicks-medical-mystery/

03:21 TR Bot; New Brunswicks Mystery Disease: Why Did the Province Shut Out Federal Experts? | The Walrus

03:22 TR News; NEWS #Health A third of #Ohio deer test positive for #COVID19 virus https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/12/third-ohio-deer-test-positive-covid-19-virus

03:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: umn.edu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/12/third-ohio-deer-test-positive-covid-19-virus

03:22 TR Bot; A third of Ohio deer test positive for COVID-19 virus | CIDRAP

03:22 TR News; NEWS #Health Deer may be reservoir for SARS-CoV-2, study finds https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/deer-may-be-reservoir-sars-cov-2-study-finds/

03:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: psu.edu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/deer-may-be-reservoir-sars-cov-2-study-finds/

03:22 TR Bot; Deer may be reservoir for SARS-CoV-2, study finds | Penn State University

03:24 TR News; NEWS #Rachel #ProprietarySoftware YYMMDDHHMM just overflowed a signed 32 bit int https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2022/01/01/baddate/ #microsoft is 0.26% in #email http://techrights.org/2021/12/23/netcraft-and-gemini/

03:24 TR Bot; YYMMDDHHMM just overflowed a signed 32 bit int

03:24 TR Bot; The Internet is Getting Rid of Microsoft, But Were Still Not Getting Back Our Autonomy/Freedom (Its a Paradigm Issue, Not a Brand Issue) | Techrights

03:24 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware #Netgear thinks youll pay extra for ad blocking on its Orbi routers https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/3/22848279/netgear-orbi-game-booster-ad-blocking-ces-2022

03:24 TR Bot; The Netgear introduces Game Booster for ad blocking on Orbi - The Verge

03:26 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 33832 total Total number of pages in capsule: 38717 Active: active (running) since Sun 2021-10-10 09:33:45 BST; 2 months 24 days ago

03:27 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 31 GB TotalOut: 8.4 GB

03:28 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.

03:29 TR News; NEWS #Gnu #GnuPG A New Future for GnuPG https://gnupg.org/blog/20220102-a-new-future-for-gnupg.html

03:29 TR Bot; 20220102-a-new-future-for-gnupg

03:30 AdmFubar1; https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/cloud-misconfiguration-a-growing-cause-of-security-incidents.439475/

03:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: wilderssecurity.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/cloud-misconfiguration-a-growing-cause-of-security-incidents.439475/

03:30 TR Bot; Cloud misconfiguration a growing cause of security incidents | Wilders Security Forums

03:31 TR News; NEWS #Wired #Privacy #Surveillance How to Delete Your Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok https://www.wired.com/story/how-to-delete-your-facebook-instagram-twitter-snapchat/

03:31 TR Bot; to Delete Your Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok | WIRED

03:31 schestowitz-TR; AdmFubar1: we are not good at sec, let's outsource to BigClownCompany

03:31 schestowitz-TR; BigClownCompany: we'll blame the client

03:31 schestowitz-TR; sec experts: BigClownCompany can't even do it right

03:32 schestowitz-TR; finger-pointing by clowns

03:32 TR News; NEWS #ExtremeTech #Privacy #Surveillance Turns Out People Really Are Using Apple AirTags to Track and Steal Cars https://www.extremetech.com/electronics/329853-turns-out-people-really-are-using-apple-airtags-to-track-and-steal-cars

03:32 TR Bot; Out People Really Are Using Apple AirTags to Track and Steal Cars - ExtremeTech

03:32 TR News; [Old] #Jalopnik #Privacy #Surveillance Another Driver Finds An #Apple #AirTag Tracking His Car's Location https://jalopnik.com/another-driver-finds-an-apple-airtag-tracking-his-cars-1848229984

03:32 TR Bot; Another Driver Finds An Apple AirTag Tracking His Location

03:33 TR News; NEWS #JonUdell #Privacy #Surveillance The (appropriately) quantified self https://blog.jonudell.net/2022/01/02/the-appropriately-quantified-self/

03:33 TR Bot; The (appropriately) quantified self Jon Udell

03:33 TR News; NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Privacy #Surveillance #FB A Former #Facebook Executive Pushes to Open Social Medias Black Boxes https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/02/business/media/crowdtangle-facebook-brandon-silverman.html

03:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/02/business/media/crowdtangle-facebook-brandon-silverman.html

03:33 TR Bot; Founder of CrowdTangle Hopes to Bring Transparency to Social Media - The New York Times

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03:38 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.

03:39 TR News; #nhs #uk #covid19 data: sorry, today we publish deaths only for a quarter of reporting regions and mew cases for half of them. But not to worry, it's under control! Also: no data at all on hospitalisations since 27 December. The media fails to note this and paints a rosy picture.

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03:48 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #finance #Apple briefly crossed a $3 trillion market cap https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/3/22828277/apple-3-trillion-market-cap-company-earnings fake value, fake economy... bubbles to hide the real rotten state of the economy

03:48 TR Bot; Apple briefly crossed a $3 trillion market cap - The Verge

03:48 TR News; [Old] #apple Tech Innovation vs. Legislative Reform: Apples Response to the #TCJA https://news.law.fordham.edu/jcfl/2021/04/12/tech-innovation-vs-legislative-reform-apples-response-to-the-tcja/

03:48 TR Bot; Tech Innovation vs. Legislative Reform: Apples Response to the TCJA

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03:48 TR News; NEWS #NewYorkTimes #finance Apple Becomes First Company to Hit $3 Trillion Market Value https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/technology/apple-3-trillion-market-value.html fake value, but #wallstreet has been all fake for ages...

03:48 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/technology/apple-3-trillion-market-value.html

03:48 TR Bot; Apple Becomes First Company to Hit $3 Trillion Market Value - The New York Times

03:49 TR News; [Old] #finance How Fortune 500 Companies Avoid Paying Income Tax https://www.investopedia.com/news/how-fortune-500-companies-avoid-paying-income-tax/

03:49 TR Bot; How Fortune 500 Companies Avoid Paying Income Tax

03:54 TR News; NEWS #TeenVogue #socialcontrolmedia #twitter Marjorie Taylor Greene's Personal Twitter Suspended Over #COVID19 #Disinformation https://www.teenvogue.com/story/marjorie-taylor-greene-twitter-suspended http://techrights.org/2022/01/03/popularising-censorship/

03:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: teenvogue.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.teenvogue.com/story/marjorie-taylor-greene-twitter-suspended

03:54 TR Bot; Marjorie Taylor Greene's Personal Twitter Suspended Over COVID Disinformation | Teen Vogue

03:54 TR Bot; Stop Cheering/Calling for Social Control Media Censorship, Quit Getting Information From It Instead | Techrights

03:54 TR News; NEWS #Variety #socialcontrolmedia #twitter #MarjorieTaylorGreene Permanently Banned by Twitter https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/marjorie-taylor-greene-twitter-banned-covid-1235145900/ http://techrights.org/2022/01/03/popularising-censorship/

03:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/marjorie-taylor-greene-twitter-banned-covid-1235145900/

03:54 TR Bot; Taylor Greene Permanently Banned by Twitter - Variety

03:55 TR News; NEWS #NewYorkTimes #socialcontrolmedia #twitter Twitter Permanently Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greenes Account https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/02/technology/marjorie-taylor-greene-twitter.html http://techrights.org/2022/01/03/popularising-censorship/

03:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/02/technology/marjorie-taylor-greene-twitter.html

03:55 TR Bot; Twitter Permanently Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greenes Account - The New York Times

03:56 TR News; NEWS #Axios #socialcontrolmedia #twitter Marjorie Taylor Greene's Twitter account permanently suspended for #COVID19 #misinformation https://www.axios.com/twitter-permanently-suspends-marjorie-taylor-greene-98b24ac2-9932-4766-83a7-7d947889228f.html http://techrights.org/2022/01/03/popularising-censorship/

03:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: axios.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.axios.com/twitter-permanently-suspends-marjorie-taylor-greene-98b24ac2-9932-4766-83a7-7d947889228f.html

03:56 TR Bot; Taylor Greene suspended from Facebook for 24 hours - Axios

03:56 TR News; NEWS #France24 #socialcontrolmedia #twitter Twitter blocks Republican congresswoman's account for #Covid19 claims https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20220103-twitter-blocks-republican-congresswoman-s-account-for-covid-claims "uses artificial intelligence... Two or three strikes earn a 12-hour account lock. Four strikes prompt a weeklong suspension." http://techrights.org/2022/01/03/popularising-censorship/

03:56 TR Bot; Twitter blocks Republican congresswoman's account for Covid claims

03:56 TR News; #clowncomputing does not mean improved #security but a liability issue https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/cloud-misconfiguration-a-growing-cause-of-security-incidents.439475/

03:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: wilderssecurity.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/cloud-misconfiguration-a-growing-cause-of-security-incidents.439475/

03:58 TR News; Every politician and US president has spread both #Disinformation and #Misinformation ... not only #Trump ... sites like #facebook and #twitter have owners and they misuse those platforms to choose who gets and maintains power

03:58 TR News; NEWS #DeutscheWelle #Disinformation #Misinformation Fact check: How do I spot fake news? https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-how-do-i-spot-fake-news/a-59978706

03:58 TR Bot; check: How do I spot fake news? | World | Breaking news and perspectives from around the globe | DW | 03.01.2022

03:59 TR News; #twitter: criticising #microsoft is #misinformation .... YOU ARE BANNED! http://techrights.org/2021/12/29/straw-man-censorship/

03:59 TR Bot; Criticising Microsoft and the OSI is COVID-19 Misinformation | Techrights

03:59 TR News; #twitter : #billgates is not a bad man, he is our CLIENT! http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/

03:59 TR Bot; Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights

4 AM, January 4

04:00 TR News; NEWS #RollingStone #Disinformation #Misinformation Peter Navarro: Trump Distributed Bogus Election Fraud Research to Every Congressional Republican https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/peter-navarro-interview-jan-6-electoral-college-1277938/

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04:00 TR Bot; Peter Navarro Describes Trump-Backed Plan to Overturn Election Results - Rolling Stone

04:02 TR News; NEWS #TheNation #wikileaks Extraditing Julian #Assange Threatens Journalists Worldwide https://www.thenation.com/article/society/assange-extradition-journalism/

04:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/society/assange-extradition-journalism/

04:02 TR Bot; Extraditing Julian Assange Threatens Journalists Worldwide | The Nation

04:05 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGLe0Wgfbyk

04:05 TR Bot; Your Airbnb May Be ILLEGAL | Adam Ruins Everything - YouTube

04:07 DaemonFC; "Guests with black-sounding names were 16% less likely to be approved for an Airbnb rental."

04:09 DaemonFC; I ran into a sarcastic article the other day that was written by a black person.

04:09 DaemonFC; Talking about how they bring the discrimination down on themselves by doing things like naming their children "whatever the fuck we want".

04:10 DaemonFC; But the truth is if they were naming their kids Mike or Tom or Bob or Susan, they'd be getting more calls for a job interview and less crap if they applied for public assistance.

04:10 DaemonFC; So names that don't "blend in" do call unwanted attention.

04:10 DaemonFC; The Chinese have a saying that goes "the nail that sticks out gets pounded down".

04:10 DaemonFC; Or something like that.

04:12 DaemonFC; "Cities pass laws against turning apartments into Airbnb rentals, and Airbnb ignores those laws. 3 out of 4 Airbnb rentals in New York City are illegal."

04:13 DaemonFC; We're a tech company! We are responsible for nothing!

04:14 TR News; NEWS #AssociatedPress Court rules pot smell alone cant justify warrantless search https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-allentown-marijuana-3b807aebd7c423f060366902fd890814

04:14 TR Bot; Court rules pot smell alone can't justify warrantless search | AP News

04:14 TR News; NEWS #pittsburgh Pa. Supreme Court Rules Smell Of Marijuana Alone Not Enough To Justify Warrantless Search https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2021/12/30/pennsylvania-supreme-court-marijuana-warrantless-search/

04:14 TR Bot; Pa. Supreme Court Rules Smell Of Marijuana Alone Not Enough To Justify Warrantless Search CBS Pittsburgh

04:15 TR News; NEWS #Allentown Medical Marijuanas Legal Status In PA Changes How Cops Can Do Traffic Stops https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2021/12/30/marijuana-traffic-stops-pa-ruling/

04:15 TR Bot; Medical Marijuanas Legal Status In PA Changes How Cops Can Do Traffic Stops CBS Pittsburgh

04:15 TR News; NEWS Pot smell alone cant justify warrantless search, Pa. court rules https://www.pennlive.com/news/2021/12/pot-smell-alone-cant-justify-warrantless-search-pa-court-rules.html

04:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pennlive.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pennlive.com/news/2021/12/pot-smell-alone-cant-justify-warrantless-search-pa-court-rules.html

04:15 TR Bot; smell alone cant justify warrantless search, Pa. court rules - pennlive.com

04:16 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, January 03, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext

04:16 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives

04:16 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing

04:16 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index

04:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHU_KLYhibI

04:18 TR Bot; Ruins Everything - Why Home Ownership is Actually a Terrible Investment - YouTube

04:20 DaemonFC; MARISOL

04:20 schestowitz-TR; she does not own a home

04:20 DaemonFC; They're tied down to a house where the property taxes have more than tripled in the last twenty years.

04:20 schestowitz-TR; the bank owns it

04:20 DaemonFC; They probably didn't plan on their mortgage going up that much because the bank has to cut the county a check for the taxes! :)

04:21 schestowitz-TR; bbl

04:21 DaemonFC; They're paying for the out of control government more than we are because they stupidly bought a single family dwelling on some land that people can trip on and sue them.

04:22 DaemonFC; Unlike me, they're not judgment proof.

04:22 DaemonFC; Judgment proof isn't a legal term, it's just a term of fact. When someone is so poor that you could sue them but you'd never get a dime if you did.

04:23 DaemonFC; The government had laws in place to make sure that people who lose a lawsuit have enough money to live and put some savings away.

04:23 DaemonFC; So quite a lot of the population isn't worth suing because they make less than $22.50 an hour and they have less than $4,500 in a bank account.

04:24 DaemonFC; And if you take them to a debtor's exam too many times, you could find yourself in contempt of court, for a lawsuit that you won.

04:24 DaemonFC; How's them apples? :)

04:25 DaemonFC; And the funny part is, in a debtor's exam, you can ask them if they have money somewhere else, but they can also lie to you.

04:25 DaemonFC; Nobody and nothing gives you the right to invade and search.

04:26 DaemonFC; So as long as they feel comfortable committing perjury (many people do), then you'll still never get anything.

04:27 DaemonFC; Landlords even get frustrated suing former tenants and quit trying to attach to anything.

04:27 DaemonFC; They don't like to admit how often that happens, but often they can win whatever lawsuit they want to file and still get nothing.

04:28 DaemonFC; An ex of mine has owed a former landlord $4,652, since 2011.

04:28 DaemonFC; Hasn't paid a cent.

04:29 DaemonFC; Pretty much the threat of not paying your rent, if you're poor, is that you get evicted (eventually) and blackballed (eviction on credit report and court filings).

04:29 DaemonFC; Not that you'll get sued and the landlord collects.

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04:59 DaemonFC; I've decided to complete my HPV vaccination series as well.

04:59 DaemonFC; I have damned good insurance that covers all vaccines with a very small co-pay.

04:59 DaemonFC; So I've been spending the last couple of years making sure I take full advantage of that, at least for everything that's common in the United States.

5 AM, January 4

05:00 DaemonFC; HPV is sexually transmitted, and I doubt I'd ever have to worry about it again, but it protects you for the rest of your life and it's $750 cash.

05:01 DaemonFC; So if I lost my insurance I'd never be able to justify spending that out of pocket on the off chance I'd encounter it at some point in the next 50 years.

05:01 DaemonFC; Insurance companies take you for every dime in premiums, so the way I figure it, get em.

05:01 DaemonFC; If you need something done, do it now!

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05:12 DaemonFC; I'm probably going to be around for a while. The doctor says eat more salad, but salad and onions are what they're always recalling for salmonella and E. Coli.

05:13 DaemonFC; If I eat onions, it's usually cooked onions, like liver and onions.

05:21 leah; schestowitz-TR: btw, something which raises my eyebrows

05:21 leah; http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159823?quicktabs_authors=0

05:21 leah; "GNU Libreboot"

05:21 TR Bot; GNU Libreboot and GNU Translations (Especially Chinese) | Tux Machines

05:21 leah; libreboot left the GNU project on September 15th, 2016. the reasons it did so were very bad, and i regret my actions back then but...

05:21 leah; calling it "GNU Libreboot" in 2022 is factually incorrect

05:21 leah; libreboot is not currently a part of gnu

05:22 leah; although, libreboot complies with GNU policy and it is GNU in spirit

05:23 leah; i actually asked rms several times, and gnueval, but never got a response, when re-applying for membership, so i gave up. the last attempt i made was during 2021

05:25 leah; rms himself even said so in january 2017, that libreboot is officially non-GNU

05:27 DaemonFC; Many projects have left GNU, threatened to, or only stayed because they were given special permissions that don't normally apply.

05:28 DaemonFC; I was watching Star Trek: Discovery recently, boredom, and Vulcan (Ni'Var) wanted back into the federation on the condition that it could leave whenever it wanted to.

05:28 DaemonFC; Then the federation wouldn't allow it because "Then everyone would demand the same thing. We're not some organization you can benefit from whenever you feel like it and then leave on a whim!".

05:29 DaemonFC; And the FSF, by granting this sort of thing so many times, they've made their foundation useless.

05:29 DaemonFC; They've invited in toxic people who do not share their goals and objectives, who threaten them over things like the copyright assignment provision.

05:30 DaemonFC; And now nobody will have to do it, and the best that we can hope for is that the US court system rules that the GPL is a contract with the end user and that by failing to perform, you are in breach of contract.

05:30 DaemonFC; It's clumsy. It shouldn't be necessary, but here we are.

05:31 DaemonFC; And as far back as 2009, *I* was arguing that the SFLC should "go there" because Samsung had been using Busybox in Blu Ray players and later switched to Toybox to avoid GPL lawsuits from them.

05:33 DaemonFC; I was arguing that the GPL was like a contract between distributor and user back then because I knew that simply viewing it as a "license" would allow people to sabotage it by replacing only the bits that they knew would be litigated over, and using things like Linux, which has never been litigated over in many cases the GPL was designed to be used for (even the GPLv2!).

05:34 DaemonFC; If it's a license, you need a copyright holder to get involved.

05:34 DaemonFC; If it's like a contract, you only need someone who has received a copy of the software to get involved.

05:35 DaemonFC; It's amazing that with thousands of contributors to Linux, none of them are interested in GPL compliance.

05:35 DaemonFC; So arguing it under contract law can bring about a decision that puts these companies who want to do whatever the hell they want under notice.

05:36 DaemonFC; What's going on in consumer hardware is a classic case of divide and conquer.

05:37 DaemonFC; And that's what's going on at the FSF as well. You have all of these Cancel Stallman trolls because they figured it would be easier to push over with him gone.

05:37 DaemonFC; And it's the same people who want Toybox so they can violate the GPL someplace else.

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05:53 leah; DaemonFC: fuck the federation

05:54 leah; let planets be planets

05:54 leah; the star trek version of "federation" isn't federated

05:54 leah; it's a centralized political organisation run by bureaucrats

05:55 leah; i should catch up on disco. i've only watched the first few episodes of the recent season

05:57 leah; schestowitz-TR: DaemonFC: btw, i heard through the grape vine that the FSF has picked a new executive director

05:58 leah; i don't know who, but they've picked one. they're probably making all the arrangements to bring that person in, set them up, etc. i expect that they will announce it by around the time of libreplanet 2022

05:58 leah; source: rms. i'm still in contact with him

05:58 leah; i've been told that they have a new ed

05:59 leah; DaemonFC: and gnu is useless in its current form. gnu as an organisation. they need totally new infrastructure

05:59 leah; the current infrastructure is the main problem. savannah sucks

05:59 leah; lots of projects set up their own infrastructure and everything else, so at that point, gnu is just a brand

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08:07 TR News; NEWS #TheEconomist #DigitalRestrictions #DRM Just how big in media does Apple want to be? https://www.economist.com/business/2022/01/02/just-how-big-in-media-does-apple-want-to-be

08:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/business/2022/01/02/just-how-big-in-media-does-apple-want-to-be

08:08 TR Bot; how big in media does Apple want to be? | The Economist

08:08 TR News; NEWS #Variety #copyright #copyrights #DavidBowie s Estate Sells His Publishing Catalog to Warner Chappell (EXCLUSIVE) https://variety.com/2022/music/news/david-bowie-publishing-catalog-acquired-warner-chappell-1235145941/

08:08 Alternative link; Cloudflare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/music/news/david-bowie-publishing-catalog-acquired-warner-chappell-1235145941/

08:08 TR Bot; Bowie Publishing Catalog Acquired by Warner Chappell (EXCLUSIVE) - Variety

08:08 TR News; NEWS #BBC #copyright #copyrights #DavidBowie : Singer's estate sells rights to his entire body of work to #WCM https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59860096

08:08 TR Bot; David Bowie: Singer's estate sells rights to his entire body of work to WCM - BBC News

08:08 TR News; NEWS #RollingStone #copyright #copyrights #DavidBowie s Estate Sells Entire Body of Work in Massive Publishing Deal https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/david-bowie-estate-songwriting-catalog-sale-1253155/

08:08 Alternative link; Cloudflare: rollingstone.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/david-bowie-estate-songwriting-catalog-sale-1253155/

08:08 TR Bot; David Bowie Estate Sells Publishing Catalog to Warner Chappell - Rolling Stone

08:10 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Huge New Global Anti-Piracy Coalition Will Tackle #Manga & #Anime Piracy https://torrentfreak.com/huge-new-global-anti-piracy-coalition-will-tackle-manga-anime-piracy-220103/

08:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/huge-new-global-anti-piracy-coalition-will-tackle-manga-anime-piracy-220103/

08:10 TR Bot; New Global Anti-Piracy Coalition Will Tackle Manga & Anime Piracy * TorrentFreak

08:11 TR News; #FSF has chosen a new Executive Director, who will be named soon

08:11 TR News; NEWS #FOSSForce New Community Manager at #ibm #openwash to Focus on #Accessibility https://fossforce.com/2022/01/new-community-manager-at-opensource-com-to-focus-on-accessibility/

08:11 TR Bot; New Community Manager at OpenSource.com to Focus on Accessibility - FOSS Force

08:14 TR News; NEWS #EFF #LawEnforcement Cross-Border Access to User Data by Law Enforcement: 2021 Year in Review https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/cross-border-access-user-data-law-enforcement-year-review-2021

08:14 TR Bot; Cross-Border Access to User Data by Law Enforcement: 2021 Year in Review | Electronic Frontier Foundation

08:17 Ariadne; schestowitz: i will be shutting down all VMs on the hypervisor that techrights is on momentarily, so i can replace the RAM. just waiting for sketchy craigslist RAM dude to show up first :)

08:18 TR News; #IRC Proceedings: Monday, January 03, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/01/04/irc-log-030122/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/04/irc-log-030122/

08:18 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Monday, January 03, 2022 | Techrights

08:21 schestowitz; [06:32] <Ariadne> that craigslist dude with the ram offered to drop off the ram so im having somebody go install it in about an hour or so

08:21 schestowitz; [08:17] <schestowitz> sure, sounds good

08:21 schestowitz; [08:17] <schestowitz> let me know a bit in advance so I can prepare

08:21 schestowitz; [08:17] <Ariadne> it will be in ~5 minutes or so, probably.

08:21 schestowitz; [08:20] <schestowitz> excellent, I will take a break from posting etc.

08:21 schestowitz; [08:20] <Ariadne> going down in ~30s

08:21 schestowitz; [08:21] <schestowitz> kk

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08:29 schestowitz; we can use this network for now

08:29 schestowitz; it's logged as a fully working contingency, sans the bots

08:36 schestowitz; "The EPO management is truly SICK (and sickening)," the reader said. "The EPO would also hire slaves or children in developing countries if they could. The important thing would be staff that are not in the Union, that don't ask questions. Just rubber stamp "granted". This office is shameless and odious."

08:36 schestowitz; >

08:36 schestowitz; > Happy New year, anyway.

08:36 schestowitz; working on EPO article

08:36 schestowitz; the server is getting new RAM installed

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08:43 Ariadne; i really

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08:43 Ariadne; need to rebuild the remaining centos stuff

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08:43 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77

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08:43 Ariadne; because systemd gets very upset when it is not running under a systemd host

08:43 Ariadne; :|

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08:44 schestowitz; yes, we could use a migration

08:44 schestowitz; the stuff is old

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08:46 TR News; Complete guide on #Inode number in Linux with an examples Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159867 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

08:46 TR Bot; Complete guide on Inode number in Linux with an examples | Tux Machines

08:46 TR News; <li>

08:47 TR News; NEWS #PIA #Privacy #Surveillance How to Hide from #FacialRecognition Software with Fawkes https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/hide-from-facial-recognition-software-with-fawkes/

08:47 TR Bot; How to Hide from Facial Recognition Software with Fawkes

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08:58 TR News; NEWS #CommonDreams Opinion | Shifting Wasteful Consumption https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/01/03/shifting-wasteful-consumption

08:58 TR Bot; Opinion | Shifting Wasteful Consumption | Cynthia Kaufman

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09:08 TR News; NEWS #DemocracyNow #patent #monopolies #patents #monopoly A Vaccine for the World: U.S. Scientists Develop Low-Cost [COVID-19] Shot to Inoculate Global South https://www.democracynow.org/2022/1/3/patent_free_vaccine_in_texas

09:08 TR Bot; A Vaccine for the World: U.S. Scientists Develop Low-Cost Shot to Inoculate Global South | Democracy Now!

09:11 Techrights-sec; whose general direction?

09:14 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt Telecom Monopolies Are Exploiting Crappy U.S. #Broadband Maps To Block Community Broadband Grant Requests https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211229/07091148193/telecom-monopolies-are-exploiting-crappy-us-broadband-maps-to-block-community-broadband-grant-requests.shtml

09:14 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211229/07091148193/telecom-monopolies-are-exploiting-crappy-us-broadband-maps-to-block-community-broadband-grant-requests.shtml

09:14 TR Bot; Monopolies Are Exploiting Crappy U.S. Broadband Maps To Block Community Broadband Grant Requests | Techdirt

09:35 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt NY Senator Proposes Ridiculously Unconstitutional #SocialControlMedia Law That Is The Mirror Opposite Of Equally Unconstitutional Laws In Florida & Texas https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211229/17174248199/ny-senator-proposes-ridiculously-unconstitutional-social-media-law-that-is-mirror-opposite-equally-unconstitutional-laws.shtml

09:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211229/17174248199/ny-senator-proposes-ridiculously-unconstitutional-social-media-law-that-is-mirror-opposite-equally-unconstitutional-laws.shtml

09:35 TR Bot; Senator Proposes Ridiculously Unconstitutional Social Media Law That Is The Mirror Opposite Of Equally Unconstitutional Laws In Florida & Texas | Techdirt

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09:51 coodre; why are images in gemini pages plain text (describing the image), instead of being a link to the image

09:54 schestowitz; the images are in http

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10:19 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #patentTrolls #texas #swpats US Courts Realizing They Have A Judge #AlanAlbright Sized Problem In Waco https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211224/17553048174/us-courts-realizing-they-have-judge-alan-albright-sized-problem-waco.shtml

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10:19 TR Bot; Courts Realizing They Have A Judge Alan Albright Sized Problem In Waco | Techdirt

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10:24 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #India #SciHub 's Creator Thinks Academic Publishers, Not Her Site, Are The Real Threat To Science, And Says: 'Any Law Against Knowledge Is Fundamentally Unjust' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211229/08580848194/sci-hubs-creator-thinks-academic-publishers-not-her-site-are-real-threat-to-science-says-any-law-against-knowledge-is.shtml

10:24 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211229/08580848194/sci-hubs-creator-thinks-academic-publishers-not-her-site-are-real-threat-to-science-says-any-law-against-knowledge-is.shtml

10:24 TR Bot; Creator Thinks Academic Publishers, Not Her Site, Are The Real Threat To Science, And Says: 'Any Law Against Knowledge Is Fundamentally Unjust' | Techdirt

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10:33 TR News; Is #apple even good for the US? https://www.assemblymag.com/blogs/14-assembly-blog/post/90370-apple--offshoring-and-the-decline-of-the-american-middle-class #assemblymag blocks EU visitors

10:33 TR Bot; Apple, Offshoring and the Decline of the American Middle Class | 2012-07-31 | Assembly Magazine | ASSEMBLY

10:37 TR News; #RTL does reputationLaundering for #billgates in recent years... and now it talks about agreement not to name Gates (et al) in relation to #jeffreyEpstein https://today.rtl.lu/life/royals/a/1841754.html as guessed... http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/

10:38 TR Bot; RTL Today - Epstein deal released: Prince Andrew's sexual assault accuser agreed not to sue "other potential defendants"

10:38 TR Bot; Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | Techrights

10:41 TR News; #vista11 / #vista11 #falseDichotomy from #microsoft -funded noise site https://www.computerworld.com/article/3646191/new-windows-11-device-want-to-downgrade-to-10-youve-got-options.html iophk says, patch from here: https://linuxmint.com/download.php

10:41 TR Bot; Windows 11 device? Want to downgrade to 10? You've got options | Computerworld

10:41 TR Bot; Download Linux Mint 20.2 - Linux Mint

10:43 TR News; The #Internet Heist (Part I). The early days of the war to control | by Cory Doctorow | Jan, 2022 | OneZero https://onezero.medium.com/the-internet-heist-part-i-3395769891b0 https://onezero.medium.com/the-internet-heist-part-i-3395769891b0 #onezero @ #medium blocked by #javascript

10:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: medium.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://onezero.medium.com/the-internet-heist-part-i-3395769891b0

10:43 TR Bot; The Internet Heist (Part I). The early days of the war to control | by Cory Doctorow | Jan, 2022 | OneZero

10:46 TR News; Well, @doctorow should know better than to choose a medium pardon the pun -- that requires nonfree #javascript https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/107559510356998125

10:46 TR Bot; Cory Doctorow's linkblog: "If you're a Medium subscriber, you can read these" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media Fdr

10:49 coodre__; i like how the new windows 11 device article suggests installing 3rd party tools to make it bearable, suggests how much microsoft fucked it up

10:52 TR News; AG Racine Files Brief Supporting Effort to Hold #Facebook Accountable For Falsely Claiming to Remove #HateSpeech From Its Platform https://oag.dc.gov/release/ag-racine-files-brief-supporting-effort-hold #oag

10:52 TR Bot; AG Racine Files Brief Supporting Effort to Hold Facebook Accountable For Falsely Claiming to Remove Hate Speech From Its Platform

11 AM, January 4

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11:04 DaemonFC; MakeUseOf was talking about things that can slow down your USB transfers on Windows, and mentioned Defender.

11:04 DaemonFC; I commented:

11:05 DaemonFC; "1. Turn Off Windows Security" Theater

11:05 DaemonFC; Fixed that for you.

11:05 DaemonFC; Microsoft Pretender: "Red alert! Open Source Software detected" Also Microsoft Pretender: "This Ransomware is fine!".

11:05 DaemonFC; Unfortunately for the shrinking number of Windows users (it's the new Internet Explorer), the piece of crap is used so much that the makers of free antivirus that actually works (BitDefender) are starting to pull up the stakes and go paid-only.

11:05 DaemonFC; ---

11:05 DaemonFC; And why shouldn't they want a lot of money for antivirus software that can actually work?

11:05 coodre__; microsoft "defender" is simply a tool of censorship, just use common sense 2022, it's preinstalled in your brain

11:06 DaemonFC; It's not a labor of love. It's not something where open source would come in and pay the bills or keep the lights on, and why would you secure this goddamned mess for free?

11:06 TR News; What is CloudReady? Is it a Viable Alternative to Chrome OS? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159868 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

11:06 TR Bot; What is CloudReady? Is it a Viable Alternative to Chrome OS? | Tux Machines

11:06 TR News; 5 Hot Free and Open Source Ruby Application Servers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159869 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

11:06 TR Bot; 5 Hot Free and Open Source Ruby Application Servers | Tux Machines

11:07 DaemonFC; Windows 11 isn't doing any better than Windows 10 so far for blocking malware. What they have done is slowed the system down 28% (for gaming, at least, probably other stuff) by running some extremely poorly designed parts of the OS in a Virtual Machine (which also blocks VirtualBox from working properly).

11:08 DaemonFC; Windows is not a paragon of good design, but there are some parts that are exceptionally bad, extremely WTF, like the whole concept of svchost.

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11:08 TR News; "relayor v22.0.0-rc has been released with MetricsPort (prometheus) support improvements and support for the new tor alpha debian repositories shipping tor 0.4.7.x." https://mastodon.social/@nusenu/107560995473287787 #deletegithub

11:08 TR Bot; nusenu: "relayor v22.0.0-rc has been released with Metrics" - Mastodon

11:09 DaemonFC; If they had designed Windows NT to be robust instead of looking to save a few kilobytes of RAM in the 90s at the cost of creating a gigantic mess for Windows for all time.....svchost would never exist.

11:09 TR News; #socialcontrolmedia is poison https://freeradical.zone/@thenewoil/107559364015356336

11:09 TR Bot; The New Oil: "How to Delete Your Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, " - Free Radical

11:09 DaemonFC; They would have made creating and destroying processes a lot faster and they would have never created so many system services that are utterly useless or impossible to secure, or both.

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11:13 DaemonFC; WGN posted about so many people leaving Illinois.

11:13 DaemonFC; 120,000+ last year, net.

11:13 DaemonFC; I said:

11:13 DaemonFC; In Illinois, $50,000 is a 10% down payment on a house (where the county will proceed to eat you alive for property taxes).

11:13 DaemonFC; In many parts of Indiana, $50,000 _is_ a house (with $500 a YEAR property taxes).

11:13 DaemonFC; This is your brain. *egg* This is your brain on the Gimmedat Party of Illinois *smack*. Any questions?

11:14 DaemonFC; Democrats: Hey, why don't any of these people have houses? Pritzker: OM NOM NOM COOOOOKIE!!!!

11:14 DaemonFC; I don't know what slows our governor down worse. The lard in his ass or the shit in his brains.

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11:20 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/pritzker-expanding-vaccine-clinics-testing-sites-as-omicron-cases-skyrocket/

11:20 TR Bot; Pritzker expanding vaccine clinics, testing sites as omicron cases skyrocket | WGN-TV

11:20 DaemonFC; Me: Oh good, the 400 pound health expert is back. What does he have to say this time?

11:20 DaemonFC; That if people are having trouble staying employed under his dictatorship that they should try being born into a hotel fortune because it really helps their fiscal outlook?"

11:22 DaemonFC; WGN: Our European visitors are important.

11:22 DaemonFC; Also WGN: That's why we still don't comply with the GDPR.

11:23 TR News; The EPOs Race to the Bottom Part I From Bad to Worse Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/01/04/epo-from-bad-to-worse/ #Techrights #EPO #corruption #europe #patents | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/04/epo-from-bad-to-worse/

11:23 TR Bot; The EPOs Race to the Bottom Part I From Bad to Worse | Techrights

11:24 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159870 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

11:24 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

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11:30 TR News; "I also note that the #LinuxFoundation doesn't appear to have a presence in the #Fediverse or on any open platforms, instead choosing only to use the centralised proprietary technologies of their board members' employers." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107556525021843235 http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation

11:30 TR Bot; Dave Lane: "I also note that the Linux Foundation doesn't app" - Mastodon - NZOSS

11:30 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights

11:32 TR News; "Leak: I guess the #EU will push for indiscriminate #dataretention of IP addresses by ISPs and OTT communications services, and outlawing anonymous communications via prepaid cards and possibly messaging services:" https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107558701920762252

11:32 TR Bot; Breyer: " Leak: I guess the EU will push for indiscrimin" - chaos.social

11:33 TR News; These are the wishes of the #EU countries for data retention https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/vorratsdatenspeicherung-internes-papier-zeigt-was-sich-die-eu-staaten-wuenschen-a-8ba7be94-2ecd-41d5-8ae4-aad12a7b1325

11:33 TR Bot; Vorratsdatenspeicherung: Internes Papier zeigt, was sich die EU-Staaten wnschen - DER SPIEGEL

11:34 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159871 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

11:34 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines

11:34 TR News; #linuxfoundation as a collective of frauds and imposters. "Most of them use MacOS over Linux, can't say i'm surprised they don't use Mastodon." http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation

11:35 coodre__; but linus uses macos too

11:36 TR News; "the Linux Foundation... doesn't have much to do with Linux. Some of what it does is possibly worthwhile, but its annual report is woefully obscure, opaque, and a lot of it seems to actively relegate Linux to the fringe." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107556525021843235 http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation

11:36 schestowitz-TR; coodre__: source?

11:36 TR News; "Just looking for the annual report on their website, but don't see it. I do see, however, that just about all of their 'board' is made up of representatives from the Big 5 (and former big, e.g. IBM and VMWare) Tech firms. That explains plenty." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107556525021843235 http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation

11:37 psydroid4; I use macs too

11:37 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 7.46 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 245.51

11:37 psydroid4; they just run GNU/Linux

11:37 schestowitz-TR; yeah, but not macOS

11:37 coodre__; nah i'm wrong, he just uses gnu/linux on mac

11:37 psydroid4; because macOS dies when you boot it up

11:37 DaemonFC; The Linux Foundation report leaves you just as well off as had you not even wasted your time trying to read it. It goes on forever and it says nothing.

11:38 psydroid4; which it actually did on those old Powermac G4 machines

11:38 TR News; Today we start a series which takes a closer look at why EPO staff is so displeased and why the brain drain this entails will likely doom the #EPO and harm #Europe financially, not just morally Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/01/04/epo-from-bad-to-worse/ #Techrights #patents #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/04/epo-from-bad-to-worse/

11:38 DaemonFC; Except a bunch of blurbs about how they coincidentally want to do a lot of non-Linux things that square up with what Bill Gates is investing in.

11:39 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/09/24/spamnil-zdnet-lf-greenwashing-microsoft/

11:39 TR Bot; [Meme] Linux Foundation is Greenwashing Microsoft Again, Misusing the Linux Brand Like Nobodys Business | Techrights

11:39 DaemonFC; The biggest bullshit word continues to be "AI".

11:41 DaemonFC; We're not on the verge of an emergent artificial consciousness anymore than James Cook was on the verge of landing on the moon.

11:41 DaemonFC; We may _start_ to see something approaching that by the end of my lifetime if I live another 50 years.

11:41 DaemonFC; In tech terms, that's centuries from now.

11:42 DaemonFC; No matter how good something like this gets, it still won't think like a human does.

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11:43 DaemonFC; Humans have biological imperatives, an urge to reproduce, self-preservation, instinctive behavior, non-verbal cues, even mental illness (which causes some to be good artists).

11:43 DaemonFC; A machine will never have the ability to "feel" some way about something.

11:44 DaemonFC; So it can't have a conscience.

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11:45 DaemonFC; The Terminator and Terminator 2 have the best example of what I think Strong AI will look like at some point in the future. It'll be a military project. Why would the military put down a commandment against killing people or want a machine to learn on its own and decide not to obey?

11:45 DaemonFC; So we'd get a mindless intelligence.

11:46 kingoffrance; ^

11:46 DaemonFC; In T2, it was shown that the T-800 could adapt to mimic humans, given enough time and with a "learning program" active, but this was only so it could go deep undercover without arousing suspicion and then kill a target once it was inside.

11:46 kingoffrance; im not so worried about some superhuman AI taking over. rather, people getting ushered into some idiotic AI that makes everyone dumber

11:47 tech_exorcist; a superhuman AI would/could be stopped or harmed by a strong electromagnetic pulse, I suppose?

11:47 DaemonFC; Well, a "caretaker AI" is probably worse, and more likely, than something like Skynet.

11:47 DaemonFC; One that sees to our needs, and we eventually forget how it works and just go on for generations, incapable of doing things without it.

11:47 DaemonFC; Like Logan's Run.

11:48 tech_exorcist; we do know how to generate EMPs, just look at the stuff in YouTube videos and scale those things up

11:48 tech_exorcist; (yes, it's YT, I know)

11:48 DaemonFC; If the AI knows our needs and can operate and build and repair drone workers, then people can afford to "relax" and then in a few generations nobody knows how it works.

11:48 DaemonFC; Everything is on autopilot.

11:49 DaemonFC; Humanity is finished as a species that "grows" in any meaningful way.

11:49 tech_exorcist; "incapable of doing things without it" I'd say we're almost at that point now, even without super AIs: what would the average Joe do without Internet access today?

11:50 DaemonFC; Right, but that's because the government and big business demand things be done that way.

11:50 kingoffrance; ^

11:50 kingoffrance; not everyone average joe. how much software is useless without internet?

11:50 DaemonFC; You're in contempt of court. You don't have a computer with internet access and the judge barred the door, so LOL.

11:50 kingoffrance; *not even

11:50 DaemonFC; See ya in 30 days!

11:50 kingoffrance; yep

11:50 kingoffrance; cell phones too

11:51 DaemonFC; Court is in contempt of you.

11:51 tech_exorcist; my school relies on G Shit for Education (pun on the pronounciation of "Suite")

11:51 kingoffrance; lol

11:51 DaemonFC; But that just brings it into line with the rest of the state.

11:51 DaemonFC; I don't have anything to do with my government.

11:51 tech_exorcist; anyone speaks Italian here? https://innovazione.gov.it the Italian "Ministry of Technological Innovation and Digital Transition", whatever it means

11:51 Alternative link; Cloudflare: innovazione.gov.it | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://innovazione.gov.it

11:51 TR Bot; Ministro innovazione tecnologica e transizione digitale

11:51 tech_exorcist; full of javascript of course

11:52 DaemonFC; I'm one of the 97% of the people in this state that have no control over it whatsoever, not even the slightest bit, can't even choose my "representatives".

11:52 tech_exorcist; DaemonFC: USA?

11:52 DaemonFC; Yeah, I go "vote" and most of my ballot is blank or write-ins that are just random people or fictional characters or something.

11:53 DaemonFC; Because there's nobody to vote for.

11:53 tech_exorcist; I see

11:53 tech_exorcist; I live in Italy and I'm too young to vote

11:53 kingoffrance; saw this the other day: http://numerical.recipes/oldverswitcher.html EB 11th ed.Encyclopaedia Britannica the great 11th Edition (1911) free, in our bookreader format still has to go online to read it

11:53 TR Bot; Numerical Recipes Books On-Line

11:53 DaemonFC; The Democrats will get a supermajority in the Illinois legislature no matter who goes to vote.

11:53 DaemonFC; No matter what they want.

11:54 DaemonFC; There's like 118 Representatives in the state house, and it could go +/- 3-4 of them either way.

11:54 DaemonFC; And that's the only influence the people living here have.

11:54 kingoffrance; looks like it is many smaller PDFs though

11:54 DaemonFC; So the Democrats go on and on passing whatever they want. Life gets worse.

11:55 DaemonFC; Living here becomes more and more unbearable due to crime, poverty, and high rents.

11:55 tech_exorcist; dunno if I already said this here, but I was thinking of a theoretical relay computer capable of computing modern cryptography algorithms like those with elliptic curves

11:55 DaemonFC; Every time they pass a law that's supposed to reduce poverty or "address racial justice", crime and poverty go up.

11:56 DaemonFC; Because when they say "address racial injustice", what they actually mean is dump out a lot of people who were in prison for good reasons.

11:56 DaemonFC; So they can go live near you.

11:56 DaemonFC; While the government officials surround themselves with the remaining cops like an army.

11:57 DaemonFC; Lori Lightfoot, Mayor of Chicago, has presided over a 400% increase in violent crime and 1,000% increase in carjackings at gunpoint.

11:57 DaemonFC; But she herself is in no danger.

11:58 DaemonFC; Even though the city has lost over 2,200 police officers since 2019, she's got a round-the-clock security detail and they've blocked off her entire street and they arrest anyone who pickets her.

11:59 DaemonFC; Her latest edict will cause many more people to go unemployed and homeless (or fleeing the city with whatever they can carry).

11:59 DaemonFC; The vaccine mandates went ahead even though people won't comply with them to go out to spend money at places covered by the mandate.

11:59 DaemonFC; And meanwhile, vaccinated people are spreading it to each other.

noon, January 4

12:00 DaemonFC; With an R0 of 3 between vaccinated people.

12:00 DaemonFC; That's terrible!

12:00 tech_exorcist; that's because the vaccine is less effective against variants, isn't it?

12:00 DaemonFC; For comparison, when you have something like seasonal flu, and one person gets it, they give it to between 0.8 and 1.2 other people.

12:00 DaemonFC; <tech_exorcist> that's because the vaccine is less effective against variants, isn't it?

12:01 tech_exorcist; could you give sources for both covid and seasonal flu?

12:01 tech_exorcist; I mean

12:01 DaemonFC; It is rapidly losing its effectiveness because the spike protein changes all the time.

12:01 tech_exorcist; sources for that data

12:01 DaemonFC; Well, COVID is more contagious among two unvaccinated people.

12:01 tech_exorcist; re spike protein: I see

12:01 DaemonFC; Without a vaccine it would just blow through the US in a matter of 3-4 months now.

12:01 DaemonFC; Almost everyone would be sick at once.

12:01 DaemonFC; Lots of dead people piling up who couldn't get into the hospital.

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12:02 DaemonFC; I recall hearing that R0 of Delta COVID was something like 15.

12:02 DaemonFC; Which is worse than Measles was before there was a Measles vaccine.

12:02 tech_exorcist; !

12:02 DaemonFC; But even if everyone got the COVID vaccine, it would still be many times more contagious than the flu.

12:03 DaemonFC; Most people didn't even get a Chickenpox vaccine when I was a child.

12:04 DaemonFC; It was expected you'd get Chickenpox and it would be better to have it as a child, because it was worse as an adult, and people would deliberately try to infect their kids with it at a young age because of that.

12:04 DaemonFC; Then they'd show up with it at school, and that's how I got it.

12:04 DaemonFC; Catholic school, 2nd grade.

12:05 DaemonFC; I remember it pretty well.

12:05 DaemonFC; The itching. It was awful. I was taking "oatmeal baths".

12:06 DaemonFC; A lot of the reason we have a need for Shingles Vaccine today is because kids get the Chickenpox vaccine now.

12:06 DaemonFC; So you aren't constantly being exposed to it anymore.

12:07 DaemonFC; Being around people who had the Chickenpox every so often led to reduced rates of adult Shingles, even without a Shingles vaccine.

12:07 DaemonFC; Because being exposed to the Chickenpox once in a while had a protective effect.

12:07 DaemonFC; It caused a level of herd immunity to Shingles that doesn't exist anymore.

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12:07 DaemonFC; The Shingles vaccine is pretty awful to go through, I hear.

12:08 DaemonFC; I'm kind of on the fence about whether I'll take it or not when I'm 50.

12:11 psydroid4; https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Ryzen-6000-Pluton

12:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Ryzen-6000-Pluton

12:11 TR Bot; Ryzen 6000 Series Mobile CPUs Feature Microsoft's Pluton Security - Phoronix

12:11 psydroid4; AMD, Intel and Qualcomm chips are for Windows computers, not for GNU/Linux and other free operating systems

12:12 DaemonFC; AMD and Intel CPUs are more likely to work.

12:12 tech_exorcist; where's altlink_b51's source code?

12:12 Alternative link; https://git.disroot.org/dCF/deCloudflare/issues/215

12:13 DaemonFC; ARM is a mess of "Secure" boot and odd hardware with no open surce drivers.

12:13 DaemonFC; So now you have a whole heap of problems.

12:13 tech_exorcist; what the hell is https://git.disroot.org/dCF/deCloudflare/issues/215 ?

12:13 TR Bot; #215 - where's 's source code? - deCloudflare - Gitea: Git with a cup of tea

12:14 DaemonFC; At least with "Secure" boot you can turn it off or someone can find a bug and free the hardware sold with it, which is a bad enough issue to deal with, but there are so many bugs in uEFI that we'll be plumbing the depths of this forever.

12:14 DaemonFC; There's probably decades worth of bugs in uEFI now that could be used to completely bypass "Secure" boot.

12:14 DaemonFC; We've already had a decade of them and it shows no sign of slowing down.

12:15 DaemonFC; In many cases, even if vendors do patch it, they're sloppy and there's bugs in the bugs patches.

12:15 DaemonFC; It's exactly like Microsoft.

12:16 tech_exorcist; am I the only one here who thinks we should just keep computers (not the current architectures though) for math, cryptography and maybe communication, and use "older" things, such as good old paper, for things we usually do with computers today?

12:16 DaemonFC; Intel just keeps releasing CVEs for the motherboard in this laptop and it's not like I'm going to install Windows on it again to update and then find out there are 12 more the next month.

12:16 tech_exorcist; a big problem with paper is the materials needed to make it

12:16 psydroid4; I use plenty of pen and paper for things that are more convenient to do without a computer

12:17 DaemonFC; Cryptography without a computer was pretty intricate if the person doing it was intelligent enough.

12:17 tech_exorcist; I have a mechanical typewriter, when I have to do a lot of writing at home for school I use that

12:17 tech_exorcist; actually, I *do* have a lot of writing to do for school, so I guess I'll use that today

12:17 DaemonFC; The Zodiac Killer (probably accidentally) created a cipher that held up for over 50 years that nobody could have solved for when he made it.

12:18 tech_exorcist; otherwise I just use a pen

12:18 psydroid4; I used to have a mechanical typewriter and an electric one, but I haven't used those in ages

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12:18 tech_exorcist; DaemonFC: oh, right

12:19 DaemonFC; If you make a cipher that strong today it will take a year or so of brute force with a specialized program.

12:19 tech_exorcist; :(

12:19 DaemonFC; So, as computers get faster, you need a faster computer to handle stronger cryptography.

12:19 tech_exorcist; 4096bit ECC

12:19 tech_exorcist; you'd need thousands of relays to implement that in a relay computer though

12:20 DaemonFC; The Zodiac was criticized for misspellings and poor grammar and not using punctuation.

12:20 DaemonFC; But I think it was deliberate.

12:20 DaemonFC; Someone smart enough to create a cipher like that certainly was no fool.

12:21 DaemonFC; Doing this inserted doubt into possible solutions and made the cipher harder to crack.

12:21 tech_exorcist; makes sense

12:22 DaemonFC; Who is going to go looking for "paradise" spelled "paradice", for example.

12:22 tech_exorcist; that spelling reminded me that I need to look for physical dice

12:22 tech_exorcist; I need to make 2 PGP keypairs

12:23 MinceR; 04 051050 < DaemonFC> The Chinese have a saying that goes "the nail that sticks out gets pounded down".

12:23 MinceR; but also "the squeaky wheel gets the grease" :>

12:23 DaemonFC; Yeah, aphorisms are funny like that.

12:24 MinceR; lol systemd

12:24 MinceR; 04 123746 < coodre__> nah i'm wrong, he just uses gnu/linux on mac

12:24 MinceR; he probably uses systemd/Linux

12:25 tech_exorcist; then is Devuan sysvinit/Linux?

12:25 tech_exorcist; oh, nvm

12:25 tech_exorcist; I forgot for a moment that systemd coudl almost be considered an operating system by itself

12:25 tech_exorcist; I use Devuan with sysvinit

12:26 coodre__; i'm glad systemd disregarded the unix philosophy, so it can be an entire operating system. all it needs is a kernel

12:27 MinceR; it's a pity that systemd still relies on a kernel outside itself

12:27 MinceR; i hope they hurry up and turn Linux into systemd-kerneld

12:27 tech_exorcist; the reason I'm not using OpenBSD is the lack of official support for Tor Browser

12:27 MinceR; letting the user choose is not "modern"

12:28 tech_exorcist; choose what?

12:28 MinceR; something else to run on Linux

12:28 tech_exorcist; I see

12:29 MinceR; there's a tor-browser package for openbsd

12:30 DaemonFC; https://www.nwitimes.com/business/local/local-golden-corral-owner-murdered-teen-in-1991-investigators-say/article_e52e7d8b-0398-59c7-9d1b-c86e1d8a803d.html

12:30 TR Bot; Golden Corral owner murdered teen in 1991, investigators say | Northwest Indiana Business Headlines | nwitimes.com

12:31 DaemonFC; Oh that's nice. The police had enough to get a search warrant in 1991, and didn't, even though they would have found the murder weapon and bloody clothes that matched the victim's DNA.

12:31 DaemonFC; Then they wait 30 years to arrest him.

12:31 DaemonFC; Nice job, Detective Dipshit.

12:31 MinceR; did you expect the police to do its job? :>

12:32 MinceR; s/j/own j/

12:32 DaemonFC; Hey, why don't you wait another 30 years and he can be as old as all those Nazi prison guards they finally extradited in the 2010s?

12:32 DaemonFC; :)

12:32 tech_exorcist; MinceR: re TB: yes, but afaik it's not developed by the Tor Project team

12:32 DaemonFC; <MinceR> did you expect the police to do its job? :>

12:32 DaemonFC; No, too busy out trying to pull me over for going 31 in a 30 mph zone.

12:32 DaemonFC; Happened....

12:32 MinceR; tech_exorcist: so what?

12:33 MinceR; DaemonFC: lol

12:33 MinceR; "our rules are very strict!"

12:33 DaemonFC; Brownsburg, Indiana....

12:33 DaemonFC; 2004.

12:33 tech_exorcist; MinceR: so I don't know if it's as trustworthy

12:33 DaemonFC; It turned out to be a fishing expedition.

12:33 DaemonFC; The cops asked if I had been drinking and wanted to check my car.

12:33 MinceR; tech_exorcist: how trustworthy is it anyway? it's built on failfox.

12:34 DaemonFC; I told them "Just this Pepsi, and no you may not search my car.".

12:34 DaemonFC; So they ran my license for warrants, didn't find any, and let me go.

12:34 tech_exorcist; well yeah, but I trust the Tor Project devs more

12:34 DaemonFC; 31 in a 30 is a very weak accusation.

12:35 DaemonFC; Too weak to hold up in court, but enough for a pretextual stop in Indiana.

12:35 MinceR; tech_exorcist: you don't trust the people who maintain the OS you're running?

12:35 MinceR; it's equivalent to a distro package

12:35 tech_exorcist; MinceR: I'm running Devuan

12:35 DaemonFC; Even if you're going 1 mph under the speed limit, they can always get you for something else if they follow you long enough.

12:36 DaemonFC; Sooner or later, you'll forget to use your turn signal or something. Many people will not have every single required light working on their car... Some people aren't wearing their seatbelt.

12:36 MinceR; tech_exorcist: i see, devuan has no tor-browser package. but if it did, you wouldn't trust it?

12:36 DaemonFC; If you're going to break a major law, don't break any minor ones that will get you pulled over.

12:36 tech_exorcist; MinceR: if it did, I guess I would

12:37 DaemonFC; Half the time the police find drugs in a car, they stopped the car because of seatbelts, speed, turn signals, or headlamps/taillights.

12:37 MinceR; DaemonFC: i thought seatbelts weren't required in the USA

12:37 MinceR; tech_exorcist: the openbsd package is equivalent to that

12:37 DaemonFC; It's up to the state how to handle it.

12:37 MinceR; though it would probably have more patches

12:37 DaemonFC; In Indiana, it's a $20 ticket. In Illinois, can be $300.

12:37 MinceR; for sandboxing and whatever

12:37 DaemonFC; In some states, they can't pull you over if the seatbelt violation is the only thing.

12:37 tech_exorcist; MinceR: yes, but it's not been *ported* to OpenBSD by the Tor Project developers

12:37 DaemonFC; In most, they can.

12:39 MinceR; DaemonFC: do airbags in cars sold in the US also rely on your seatbelt being worn?

12:39 DaemonFC; In most states, there's no law against radar detectors.

12:39 DaemonFC; In Virginia, it's a crime.

12:39 DaemonFC; (and they have detector detectors!)

12:39 MinceR; :>

12:39 MinceR; who detects the detectors?

12:39 DaemonFC; In Indiana, you can't have anything on your windshield, including a radar detector, but it's a fine.

12:40 DaemonFC; In Illinois, there's no law against radar detectors or having it mounted on your windshield.

12:40 MinceR; what if your rear view mirror is mounted on the windshield?

12:40 MinceR; some car manufacturers like to just glue it there

12:40 DaemonFC; The law covers things that drivers mount on the window that obstruct heir view.

12:40 MinceR; ic

12:40 DaemonFC; Which can be a pair of fuzzy dice hanging from the rear view mirror.

12:41 DaemonFC; Which, again, is perfectly legal in Illinois, but not Indiana.

12:41 MinceR; maybe it can still be mounted on the dashboard

12:41 DaemonFC; In Illinois, you don't need to have your vehicle registration.

12:41 DaemonFC; In Indiana, it's a citation with a fine.

12:41 DaemonFC; In Indiana you can get a ticket for going too fast and too slow, at the same time.

12:42 MinceR; lol

12:42 MinceR; your speed should be a complex number, i guess

12:42 DaemonFC; You were speeding, but other cars want to overtake you and can't because you're speeding in the left lane at a slower pace than they want to go.

12:42 DaemonFC; So you get a speeding ticket and a left-lane hog ticket.

12:42 DaemonFC; Illinois recently passed this too.

12:43 DaemonFC; In Indiana, not moving over for a fire truck, cop, or ambulance with lights and siren on is a big fine. In Illinois, it's a criminal offense and you can go to jail.

12:44 DaemonFC; Indiana has points for every citation offense, in Illinois they just consider every such offense to be the same and you lose your license if you get 3 in a rolling 12 month period (2 if you're under 21).

12:45 DaemonFC; So in Illinois, speeding 14 mph or less and a conviction is the same thing as running a red light, but in Indiana the first one is 4 points while the red light is 2 points.

12:46 DaemonFC; Indiana has laws about sharing the road with people on a horse and buggy, because of the Amish.

12:46 DaemonFC; In Illinois, it's illegal to be on the road in a horse and buggy.

12:47 DaemonFC; Indiana drivers licenses expire every 7 years if you're under 70.

12:47 DaemonFC; In Illinois they expire every 4 years.

12:48 DaemonFC; In Illinois, you can get a medical marijuana card, but it shows up in the police computer if you get pulled over so they know to harass you.

12:48 DaemonFC; If you pay taxes on the marijuana the police don't know you've ever bought any.

12:48 DaemonFC; It's not hard to get a medical card.

12:49 DaemonFC; If you have a household member who doesn't drive anyway, you could get them to get a medical card and buy your weed for you so there's no taxes and you're not in the computer. It's illegal, but as long as nobody runs their mouth, it's also impossible to prove.

12:50 DaemonFC; Divorce lawyers eat medical marijuana card holders for breakfast.

12:50 DaemonFC; "He can't have the kids, your honor....he smokes MARIJUANA!"

12:51 DaemonFC; It's the second best way to keep your ex from ever seeing their kids aside from uncovering a trove of CP or something.

12:51 DaemonFC; Even though marijuana is legal.

12:51 schestowitz; MARISOLANA

12:52 DaemonFC; MARISOL was asking my opinion of medical marijuana.

12:52 DaemonFC; She said "I have patients who use it. What's your opinion of that?".

12:53 DaemonFC; So I said, "Well, I don't use it, but if they have a medical need for it, like they're in pain and dying or something, I think it would be cruel and unethical not to give them some if that's what helps them. Besides, it's their right to do that in this state at that point anyway, so my opinion doesn't really matter."

12:54 DaemonFC; I think she was trying to bait me into saying something.

12:55 DaemonFC; I didn't mention the part where I voted to decriminalize it in Chicago.

12:56 DaemonFC; The police were whining that they would lose a "valuable tool" to obtain search warrants where they would uncover other crimes.

12:56 DaemonFC; In otherwords "We're too lazy and stupid to do actual police work. If we lose the 'I smell pot.' line, we're fucked!".

12:57 DaemonFC; But even as a legal substance, they manage to arrest and kill black people for having it.

12:57 DaemonFC; So I knew they'd think of something. :)

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12:58 DaemonFC; Most people who do little shit don't really have to worry about criminal prosecution too much.

12:58 TR News; What #canonical is trying to sell https://ubuntu.com//blog/deploy-and-maintain-applications-with-charmed-operators

12:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/deploy-and-maintain-applications-with-charmed-operators

12:58 TR Bot; and maintain applications with Charmed Operators | Ubuntu

12:58 DaemonFC; The US Attorney's office can't handle the street gangs with the machine guns.

12:59 DaemonFC; They're not going to open a case for you forgetting $5 in bank interest on a tax return.

12:59 DaemonFC; Although it's better to do things the right way to avoid giving them an opening.

1 PM, January 4

13:00 TR News; #phoronix again covering #microsoft news with no connection to #linux

13:01 schestowitz-TR; sort of replying to psydroid4 here, too^

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13:02 DaemonFC; https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/12/12/how-buffets-make-money.aspx

13:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fool.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/12/12/how-buffets-make-money.aspx

13:02 TR Bot; Obvious and 4 Not So Obvious Ways Buffets Make Money | The Motley Fool

13:02 DaemonFC; "Pricier items on the buffet line like meat or fish are cut into smaller pieces. Rationally, a person would just take two pieces instead of one. But in reality, a diner is more likely to follow society's unwritten rule, taking a single smaller piece and moving on down the line."

13:02 DaemonFC; No, I just stack them until I have as much as I want.

13:03 DaemonFC; They have these little strips of cod, but if you stack it 4 high, you use up the same amount of room on a plate and you get an entire filet's worth of fish.

13:03 schestowitz; https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/what-are-amd-cpus-on-windows-11/

13:03 TR Bot; What are AMD CPUs on Windows 11?

13:04 DaemonFC; They do the same with the meatloaf. They take one slice and turn it into 4 miniature ones, so if you just stack them, you get a full slice eventually.

13:04 DaemonFC; I always tell Mandy "Stay away from the rice. I'm not paying for a restaurant meal so they can fill us up on rice.".

13:05 TR News; #France loves open source so much, even its cinema borks have Linux behind the scenes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159872 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

13:05 TR Bot; France loves open source so much, even its cinema borks have Linux behind the scenes | Tux Machines

13:05 DaemonFC; If I can buy a 20 pound bag for $15 at Walmart, and it doubles when you cook it, then what it the buffet paying, wholesale?

13:06 DaemonFC; They like to scatter cheap stuff everywhere with the occasional meat dish.

13:06 DaemonFC; But if you work it the other way around, you can load up on meat, then get some vegetables (I go after the ones I know are more expensive at the store).

13:07 DaemonFC; They hate it. They have signs pointing which way you're "supposed" to go, but I ignore them and do whatever the hell I want.

13:07 TR News; #corporatemedia still so corrupt that it still -- yes STILL -- does these "OMG!! Some people use Linux!!!" pieces, perpetuating this old idea that it's just a bunch of geeks (or "neckbeards") capable of using the thing... #propagandaModel #chomsky

13:08 DaemonFC; If you want to do some serious damage to their bottom line, you work the buffet like that, sign up for their "loyalty card" program, use your restaurant rewards card, an stay away from soft drinks.

13:08 TR News; #cheese #flowers #rianne #photography http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/The-Corona-Times/Roy-s-Birthdays/20211217_142913

13:08 TR Bot; 20211217 142913

13:09 DaemonFC; They probably make no serious amount of money on me.

13:09 DaemonFC; Their business model is set up so that they can sink some customers like me because most people don't behave rationally once they get in there.

13:11 DaemonFC; I'm not one of those people who get thrown out of buffets though. Golden Corral has actually had to do that to some people. I heard about a guy who went in there and stacked 15 pieces of fish on one plate and totally wipedo ut the serving tray, they asked him to leave, he refused to pay the bill, and then came back and picketed them, and got arrested for Disorderly Conduct.

13:11 DaemonFC; In Wisconsin... Must have been before they went prepay.

13:11 schestowitz; "loyalty card" program = spyware

13:11 DaemonFC; Smarter to do prepay. Then you don't have dine and dash customers in a city where the police don't do shit.

13:12 DaemonFC; MMMMM, tasty spyware!

13:12 DaemonFC; There's room for all of god's creatures.......right next to the mashed potatoes.

13:12 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^

13:12 schestowitz; lol

13:14 MinceR; :)

13:15 DaemonFC; schestowitz, There was one day at the factory, the vending machine people forgot to lock the machine so that it made you put in money to make a request.

13:15 TR News; Dear #nhs ... how many patients with #covid19 hospitalised? NHS: no answer. Well.... here's some old data. Patients admitted 8 days ago. Are they really incapable of publishing such essential data? Are #tories instructing them to "cook the books" somehow? To avoid businesses shutting down?

13:15 DaemonFC; So I asked it to give me everything in the machine, and then I passed out lunch to all of my co-workers.

13:15 DaemonFC; That was a good day. Not for Capitalism though.

13:16 DaemonFC; The plant manager, Martin, weird Australian guy.

13:16 DaemonFC; Pet rabbit in the office.

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13:17 DaemonFC; Calls us all in for a meeting and says Walmart is demanding direct shipments straight from China and they didn't need any more American workers and would just be using "attrition" to get rid of us.

13:17 DaemonFC; Nice, huh?

13:17 MinceR; 04 140234 < DaemonFC> https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/12/12/how-buffets-make-money.aspx

13:17 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fool.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/12/12/how-buffets-make-money.aspx

13:17 TR Bot; Obvious and 4 Not So Obvious Ways Buffets Make Money | The Motley Fool

13:17 TR News; It's called "capitalism" because they capitalise a whole bunch of religious, superstitious crock like "Keynsian"

13:17 DaemonFC; I heard about an "all hands" meeting and said "Oh this can't be good." and I remember him saying "Oh, don't be such a doomsayer.".

13:18 MinceR; in all the places i ate at where you were supposed to pick your own pieces of food, they always had you pay by mass or number anyway

13:18 DaemonFC; <MinceR> in all the places i ate at where you were supposed to pick your own pieces of food, they always had you pay by mass or number anyway

13:18 DaemonFC; If you take it to go, then Golden Corral charges by weight.

13:18 MinceR; so it wouldn't depend on unwritten rules :>

13:18 DaemonFC; But if you eat it there, you can eat as much as you want, within reason.

13:18 DaemonFC; If you just keep putting away plates of food or something, eventually they'll get pissed and ask you to leave.

13:19 DaemonFC; But 2-3 plates isn't a problem.

13:19 DaemonFC; I've never been kicked out of a buffet before.

13:19 DaemonFC; I can't imagine how you could eat enough to be kicked out of the buffet.

13:20 DaemonFC; My sides are splitting if I have 3 plates, and I hear of people getting kicked out for like 9 or 10 plates!

13:21 DaemonFC; MinceR, Yeah, cafeteria restaurants used to be quite popular in the US.

13:21 DaemonFC; There were thousands and thousands of them. Either a la carte or all you can eat.

13:21 DaemonFC; Then they started going bankrupt or strategically closing locations.

13:21 DaemonFC; There's a really good one in Indiana and one location in Illinois called MCL. They used to have twice as many locations.

13:22 DaemonFC; There were two other chains in Indiana called Laughners and Jonathan Byrd's, and one in Texas called Luby's.

13:22 DaemonFC; They all went bankrupt and failed to re-emerge.

13:22 MinceR; :>

13:23 DaemonFC; The companies that own Ryan's and Old Country Buffet (all you can eat) went bankrupt and most of the locations closed.

13:23 DaemonFC; Ryan's was really good too.

13:23 DaemonFC; My dad was extremely frugal, so we ate at all you can eat buffets a lot.

13:24 DaemonFC; Marion had the Sirloin Stockade. Not sure if it's still there. That was awesome.

13:24 DaemonFC; Their steaks weren't the sad ones you get if you can even find a buffet today. They tasted like something you'd order at an actual steakhouse, and unlimited.

13:25 DaemonFC; I don't get my own generation, honestly.

13:25 schestowitz; your dad raised you in good times

13:25 DaemonFC; Quit fucking spending $40 to eat two small bowls of noodles. It's not funny!

13:25 schestowitz; 80s and 90s

13:26 schestowitz; back then families could actually buy homes

13:26 DaemonFC; Oh yeah, Marion has become a real shithole.

13:26 DaemonFC; It was a booming middle class city with little crime back then.

13:27 schestowitz; [13:23] <DaemonFC> The companies that own Ryan's ... went bankrupt

13:27 DaemonFC; The factories left, or the population went up and the factories that remained switched to automation and fired most of the people working there.

13:27 DaemonFC; <schestowitz> [13:23] <DaemonFC> The companies that own Ryan's ... went bankrupt

13:27 schestowitz; I think we now know why they "went bankrupt "

13:27 DaemonFC; LOL

13:27 schestowitz; "just give the cow... I'll be right lacking..

13:27 DaemonFC; Yeah, they were putting out high quality food, not charging enough for it, and attracting the "vacuum cleaners".

13:27 schestowitz; *packing

13:28 DaemonFC; When you lose money on EVERY customer, you won't be in business for very long.

13:28 schestowitz; it's a strategy

13:28 schestowitz; they rely on men bringing the women and children

13:28 schestowitz; they eat less and the women are charged the same

13:28 DaemonFC; Yes, men eat probably 40-50% more than women and at least twice what a child would.

13:28 schestowitz; also, they hide the more expensive stuff

13:29 schestowitz; they charge a lot for drinks

13:29 schestowitz; and give funny looks if you order no drink

13:29 DaemonFC; Mandy and I are both men and I taught him how to work the buffet.

13:29 DaemonFC; They hate people like us.

13:29 schestowitz; the food can be made more salty

13:29 DaemonFC; We go in there, they lose a few bucks each time.

13:29 schestowitz; so you really do need a drink

13:29 schestowitz; and for tap water you literally need to go to the toilets

13:30 DaemonFC; It's actually against the law in this state not to give the customer free tap water if they're ordering a meal.

13:30 DaemonFC; But the restaurants don't like it.

13:30 schestowitz; yeah

13:30 DaemonFC; They'll do it but they put the fountain drinks right there and imply you should buy one.

13:30 schestowitz; they pretend not to understand when you ask for water

13:30 schestowitz; and try to bring the "premium" water bottles

13:30 DaemonFC; Yeah, they bring "Dasani" or "Aquafina".

13:30 DaemonFC; Someone else's tap water. In plastic!

13:31 TR News; #KDE Plasma 5.23.5 Released as the Last Update in the Series, Further Improves Plasma Wayland Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159873 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

13:31 TR Bot; KDE Plasma 5.23.5 Released as the Last Update in the Series, Further Improves Plasma Wayland | Tux Machines

13:31 DaemonFC; You run our tap water through a Brita filter, it puts out water that's better than any bottled water I've tasted.

13:31 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159874 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

13:31 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

13:32 DaemonFC; We get it straight out of Lake Michigan and put it through a modern treatment plant to start out with, so it's not _terrible_ straight out of the tap.

13:32 DaemonFC; If you get farther from the lake, then towns start using well water and you're gonna need a better filter. :)

13:32 DaemonFC; I was going to put an under-the-sink four stage system in that house with John.

13:32 DaemonFC; Glad I didn't.

13:32 DaemonFC; Those are expensive.

13:33 DaemonFC; The water in that town is horrible.

13:33 DaemonFC; His coworkers were laughing at him because I was sending him to work with a 1.5 gallon bottle to get water out of the bottle filling station at the airport every day.

13:34 DaemonFC; You could take a shower or do laundry in Fox Lake water, but you sure as shit wouldn't drink it. It's nasty nasty stuff. If you leave it out it turns blackish red.

13:34 DaemonFC; They don't actually remove all of the minerals that cause the hardness, like magnesium and iron, they just "sequester" it.

13:35 DaemonFC; But the agent that does that will dissipate eventually and you have black water.

13:35 schestowitz; deny water?

13:35 schestowitz; that's cruel

13:35 schestowitz; very essential for any animal

13:35 schestowitz; there was even a company called that

13:36 schestowitz; akademi/xe

13:36 DaemonFC; block water

13:36 DaemonFC; Some amount of minerals in the water are good for you. Improves taste, prevents deficiency.

13:36 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 10.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 114.60 average k/sec., average swarm size 245.48

13:37 schestowitz; minerals like iron :-)

13:37 schestowitz; heavy metals

13:37 DaemonFC; Grandma left her sprinkler on and it got knocked over and started spraying her house.

13:38 DaemonFC; They didn't realize it because they were on vacation and it was on a timer.

13:38 DaemonFC; So they came back two weeks later and the house was red where the water had been hitting it.

13:38 schestowitz; niiice.

13:38 DaemonFC; Dad and I drove up and I saw that and his jaw dropped open and I said "Oh the irony of it all.".

13:39 DaemonFC; And he had to pull over until we were done laughing.

13:39 DaemonFC; You couldn't have a vacation with Grandma.

13:39 DaemonFC; She's ruin all of them you took her on after you paid thousands for her to be there with you.

13:40 DaemonFC; She blows the speaker on every TV she's ever had with televangelists on Volume level 100.

13:40 DaemonFC; And so everyone in the condo has to listen to that shit for two weeks in Florida or wherever.

13:41 DaemonFC; Then you take her to the restaurant and she ruins the meal by hurling insults at everyone at the table.

13:41 DaemonFC; Then you take her to Disney and put her on the kiddie coaster, and the ride has to shut down for 47 minutes(!) while she's screaming and grabbing the bars and refuses to get off the ride.

13:41 DaemonFC; (1998, btw)

13:42 DaemonFC; Everyone in line who paid to go to Disney standing there because a grown ass woman won't stop screaming and get off the kiddie coaster.

13:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz, She and my grandfather lost money to every con artist that came through their church.

13:43 DaemonFC; Two I remember signed them up to sell vitamins. They sold their RV to get in on that and then lost all the money from the RV.

13:44 DaemonFC; Then there was one where you would sell phone calling cards to people and sign others up, but them the 10-20 hour phone cards only actually worked for 30 minutes and the guy who sold everyone at the church on them had already skipped town with the money (Destiny Telecommunications).

13:44 DaemonFC; Meanwhile, all your friends are super pissed at you for giving them worthless phone cards.

13:46 DaemonFC; I mean, she wasted more money than I'll ever get ahold of on things that were obvious scams, televangelists, and panic buying food that rotted under the bed because the planes would fall out of the sky while the nuclear power plants melted down because the Arabs hate Jesus and they're going to attack us on Christmas because it's punishment from God for gay marriage.

13:47 DaemonFC; My brother was living with her while mom was off having an affair with Gonad, and Grandma told him about the Y2K stockpile.

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13:47 DaemonFC; She said "Now don't tell the neighbors about it or they'll come in during the night and kill us in our sleep!".

13:48 DaemonFC; And he was like 7, and so he's like "Why are the neighbors going to kill me and grandma for the food?", and I'm like "What the hell........?".

13:48 TR News; Interview with Simon Rollins Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159875 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

13:48 TR Bot; Interview with Simon Rollins | Tux Machines

13:48 TR News; #ProprietarySoftware and #Security Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159876 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

13:48 DaemonFC; I had to tell him "She's crazy. Don't listen to anything she says like that.".

13:48 TR Bot; Proprietary Software and Security | Tux Machines

13:49 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159877 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

13:49 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

13:50 DaemonFC; Then he said one day, "Why is is that when Grandma poops, you can smell it no matter where you are in the house?".

13:50 DaemonFC; I said, "Because that's what happens when you live on Boost and cake frosting.".

13:51 TR News; Links 4/1/2022: #KDE Plasma 5.23.5 and New Future for GnuPG Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/01/04/new-future-for-gnupg/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/04/new-future-for-gnupg/

13:51 TR Bot; Links 4/1/2022: KDE Plasma 5.23.5 and New Future for GnuPG | Techrights

13:51 DaemonFC; She's been an unintentional source of humor throughout my lifetime.

13:51 DaemonFC; Mostly because I haven't had to be around her for any of it.

13:53 DaemonFC; schestowitz, That scene from The Silence of the Lambs where Doctor Chilten was tormenting Hannibal Lector by keeping him in his cell with the TV on max volume with a televangelist screaming. He's taling to Starling and says what a hack Chilten is and "When you leave, he'll turn the volume back up. He so enjoys his petty torments.".

13:55 DaemonFC; I said, "Gee, locked in a cell with a TV blasting a televangelist. Vacation with Grandma. Although nobody that's been there has had the benefit of her being in a straight jacket and gagged.".

13:55 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^

13:56 DaemonFC; THe Scientologists don't like psychiatry.

13:56 DaemonFC; They claim that a man was put into a mental institution and drugged for being a schizophrenic.

13:56 DaemonFC; And they later found out he was just speaking Hungarian.

13:56 DaemonFC; They don't cite the source though.

13:58 DaemonFC; Scientology has a lot of front groups.

13:59 DaemonFC; They have a fake anti-psychiatry movement and they also have a fake drug rehab clinic.

13:59 DaemonFC; The Christians have fake abortion clinics.

13:59 DaemonFC; You have to be very careful where you go.

13:59 DaemonFC; But Siri has directed iPhone users to all of this, and probably more.

2 PM, January 4

14:00 DaemonFC; The fake abortion centers are called Crisis Pregnancy Centers, but they usually don't go by that name.

14:00 DaemonFC; They use a lot of fake names so you don't find out what it is until you're there and they're shaming you for trying to have an abortion.

14:03 MinceR; ah yes, Hannibal Lector, most famous person who reads aloud

14:03 MinceR; 04 145855 < DaemonFC> Scientology has a lot of front groups.

14:03 MinceR; indeed they do

14:17 TR News; Maui Shell seems like a very interesting KDE graphical environment http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159602#comment-32375

14:17 TR Bot; Maui Shell is a convergent desktop for Linux phones, tablets, laptops, and desktop computers | Tux Machines

14:20 TR News; Digital Transparency: A Right to Information Report for December 2021 <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://internetfreedom.in/digital-transparency-report-for-december-2021/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>

14:20 TR Bot; Digital Transparency: A Right to Information Report for December 2021

14:21 TR News; Digital Transparency: A Right to Information Report for December 2021 https://internetfreedom.in/digital-transparency-report-for-december-2021/ #internetfreedom | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/04/#latest

14:21 Alternative link; Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/digital-transparency-report-for-december-2021/

14:21 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts

14:22 TR News; Destination Linux 259: The Solus Saga & Log4Shell https://destinationlinux.org/episode-259/ #destinationlinux #gnu #linux

14:22 TR Bot; 259: The Solus Saga & Log4Shell - Destination Linux

14:22 TR News; " #Ubuntu might be taking gaming more seriously, more Mozilla missteps, why Her Majestys demise might be really bad news, a brand new segment, KDE Korner, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-158/ #gnu #linux

14:22 TR Bot; Late Night Linux Episode 158 Late Night Linux

14:23 TR News; Open Source #Openwheel | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/01/03/diy-onewheel-on-the-cheap/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/04/#latest

14:23 TR Bot; Source Openwheel | Hackaday

14:24 TR News; The Benefits Of Critiquing Your Own PCB Designs | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/01/03/the-benefits-of-critiquing-your-own-pcb-designs/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/04/#latest

14:24 TR Bot; Benefits Of Critiquing Your Own PCB Designs | Hackaday

14:34 TR News; New Games with Native #GNU #Linux Clients - 2022-01-04 Edition - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/new-games-with-native-linux-clients-2022-01-04-edition/ #boilingsteam | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/04/#latest

14:34 TR Bot; New Games with Native Linux Clients - 2022-01-04 Edition - Boiling Steam

14:35 TR News; Steam hit a new all-time user count close to 28M to start 2022 | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/01/steam-hit-a-new-all-time-user-count-close-to-28m-to-start-2022 #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/04/#latest

14:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/01/steam-hit-a-new-all-time-user-count-close-to-28m-to-start-2022

14:35 TR Bot; hit a new all-time user count close to 28M to start 2022 | GamingOnLinux

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14:35 TR News; Classic open source platformer #SuperTux is coming to Steam | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/01/classic-open-source-platformer-supertux-is-coming-to-steam #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games

14:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/01/classic-open-source-platformer-supertux-is-coming-to-steam

14:35 TR Bot; open source platformer SuperTux is coming to Steam | GamingOnLinux

14:38 TR News; #antimicrox needs to #deletegithub https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/01/keyboard-and-mouse-mapping-to-gamepad-tool-antimicrox-v321-out-now/ #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware AntiMicroX is a great open source app that helps you map your keyboard and mouse to gamepad inputs. It's the continuation of the original AntiMicro project, which was abandoned.

14:38 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/01/keyboard-and-mouse-mapping-to-gamepad-tool-antimicrox-v321-out-now/

14:38 TR Bot; and mouse mapping to gamepad tool AntiMicroX v3.2.1 out now | GamingOnLinux

14:40 TR News; The Linux kernel could soon be 50 to 80% faster to build http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159827#comment-32377

14:40 TR Bot; Ingo Molnar on "Fast Kernel Headers" | Tux Machines

14:48 TR News; Back DOOR inside the DESK. #amd #psp #backdoors https://hackaday.com/2022/01/04/a-gorgeous-desk-with-amd-inside/

14:48 TR Bot; Gorgeous Desk With AMD Inside | Hackaday

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14:51 TR News; #tesla is a big and expensive pile of garbage https://hackaday.com/2022/01/03/lte-modem-transplant-for-a-tesla-imported-into-europe/ why would you want something like that anyway? http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/no-control-over-cars/

14:51 TR Bot; Modem Transplant For A Tesla Imported Into Europe | Hackaday

14:51 TR Bot; Index: Loss of Control Over Cars | Techrights

14:53 TR News; Jean-Luc Aufranc (CNXSoft) 'shilling' product PRE-loaded with #microsoft #malware ... I fail to see the point https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/01/04/palm-sized-celeron-n5105-mini-pc-ships-with-8gb-ddr4-two-hdmi-ports/

14:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/01/04/palm-sized-celeron-n5105-mini-pc-ships-with-8gb-ddr4-two-hdmi-ports/

14:53 TR Bot; Palm-sized Celeron N5105 mini PC ships with 8GB DDR4, two HDMI ports - CNX Software

14:56 TR News; Microsoft fixes harebrained Y2K22 Exchange bug... http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159843#comment-32378 almost nobody uses #microsoft for #email http://techrights.org/2021/12/23/netcraft-and-gemini/

14:56 TR Bot; What is This Y2K22 Bug? What Problem is it Causing for Sysadmins? | Tux Machines

14:56 TR Bot; The Internet is Getting Rid of Microsoft, But Were Still Not Getting Back Our Autonomy/Freedom (Its a Paradigm Issue, Not a Brand Issue) | Techrights

14:58 TR News; "Quick heads up, the #GNOME Nightly #Flatpak repository is currently undergoing maintenance, during which you may notice that some applications are currently missing from the repo." https://blogs.gnome.org/alatiera/2022/01/04/gnome-nightly-maintenance/ #gnu #linux

14:58 TR Bot; GNOME Nightly maintenance Rust in Peace

3 PM, January 4

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15:05 TR News; It's so embarrassing how many people in the #uk catch #covid19 that the official page of #nhs (.gov) doesn't even display the total number anymore.

15:06 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkJ3--2K7yo

15:06 TR Bot; Trek III Search for Spock - Stealing the Enterprise 1080p - YouTube

15:06 DaemonFC; Transwarp drive crashes.

15:06 TR News; #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159878 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

15:06 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines

15:06 DaemonFC; I commented: They upgraded the Excelsior to Windows 11.

15:07 schestowitz; 'upgraded'

15:07 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/10/19/vista-11-hoax/

15:07 TR Bot; Proof That Windows 11 is a Hoax | Techrights

15:07 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/01/03/windows-share-in-2022/

15:07 TR Bot; In Picture: Microsoft Windows Market Share in a Freefall in 2022 | Techrights

15:07 DaemonFC; Yeah, the drive crashes and the entire ship goes dead in space.

15:07 DaemonFC; Right after the guy remarks on what a marvelous machine it is.

15:08 TR News; A look at the top 100 Steam games running on GNU/Linux - January 2022 edition | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/01/top-100-steam-games-running-on-linux-january-2022-edition/ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/04/#latest

15:08 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/01/top-100-steam-games-running-on-linux-january-2022-edition/

15:08 TR Bot; look at the top 100 Steam games running on Linux - January 2022 edition | GamingOnLinux

15:08 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts

15:09 TR News; #Hypnagonia ought to #deletegithub https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/01/hypnagonia-is-an-upcoming-open-source-qspire-likeq-deckbuilder #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github

15:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/01/hypnagonia-is-an-upcoming-open-source-qspire-likeq-deckbuilder

15:09 TR Bot; is an upcoming open source "spire-like" deckbuilder | GamingOnLinux

15:09 TR Bot; Delete Github - Techrights

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15:13 TR News; Dear Liam Dawe and Michel/Micro Larabel, #AMD #hardware isn't #linux news. And x86 is, in general, an impediment to #GNU Linux adoption. Adding a #microsoft slant to such "articles" is clickbait.

15:14 TR News; Web site 101: if you treat your readers like shit (like they're dumb herds), your readership will be shitty (quality) and numbers be shitty, too (quantity).

15:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I was talking to dad, on Facebook.

15:16 DaemonFC; "There's very little inflation. Most of the CEOs admit that they raise prices because they can get away with it and they can blame Biden for it. Kroger bragged that you have to buy groceries somewhere so they can do whatever they want to you.

15:16 DaemonFC; Mandy and I are going to the Golden Corral a lot because it's $10.50 per person and you can eat all you want to, so I pick him up at work, we make a mid day meal out of it, and I do very little shopping. You know what $20 gets you in the meat department at Walmart these days? Maybe one steak. But two people can go to an all you can eat buffet, which has over 150 things, including steak, for a little over $20. How does that work?

15:16 DaemonFC; Golden Corral even has a loyalty program and I have 4-5% back on restaurants depending on the card and the time of year, so in fact we only pay 85 cents on the dollar to eat at the buffet."

15:17 DaemonFC; It's incredibly cheap. I can't cook it myself that cheap!

15:18 DaemonFC; There at the restaurant, they already cooked it, and so I don't even have to work to cook it, or pay for the energy to cook it.

15:18 DaemonFC; So even right there, aside from the grocery bill being higher to start out with, I have to spend hours in the kitchen and pay ComEd to cook the food.

15:19 TR News; 27 Years with the Perfect OS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159880 #UNIX #BSD #FreeBSD #TuxMachines

15:19 TR Bot; 27 Years with the Perfect OS | Tux Machines

15:19 DaemonFC; And electric bills are going up because they can't disconnect the deadbeats anymore.

15:19 TR News; #Games: Annual Figures, Free/Libre Games, and More Ports Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159879 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

15:19 TR Bot; Games: Annual Figures, Free/Libre Games, and More Ports | Tux Machines

15:19 DaemonFC; So cooking a single meal can cost you 30 cents to $1 worth of electricity, depending on the meal and how you cook it.

15:20 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Even with cooking, my electric bills only came out to $33-39 a month, but I think I can get them in the $20s by just "outsourcing" this problem to the restaurant.

15:20 DaemonFC; They have electric as a fixed cost. They use the same amount whether I'm there or not.

15:21 DaemonFC; I hate ComEd. I hate Democrats. I hate this state.

15:22 DaemonFC; "Oh, you want heat? That'll be $300 for your apartment this month. Hey, Pritzker said we can't disconnect anyone, so have fun paying their bill too, and paying us again when you pay taxes!".

15:22 DaemonFC; If they charge more for heat, I just say fine, fuck it, and sleep in a sleeping bag.

15:23 DaemonFC; They want to charge more for groceries than getting a good restaurant meal, I say fine, fuck your grocery store, and go out to the buffet.

15:23 DaemonFC; I mean, things shouldn't work like this, but they do.

15:23 TR News; Stop promoting this idea that #intel likes #linux https://news.itsfoss.com/intel-linux-kernel/ look what happens INSIDE Intel. It's not pretty: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks

15:23 Alternative link; Cloudflare: itsfoss.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.itsfoss.com/intel-linux-kernel/

15:23 TR Bot; Intel is Gearing Up to Give a 'Superpower' to Linux that Windows Users Don't Have - It's FOSS News

15:23 TR Bot; Intel leaks - Techrights

15:23 DaemonFC; If it gets unbearably cold at night, I have a small space heater that should bring up the temperature in the bedroom.

15:24 DaemonFC; I can just run the space heater fan in there and point it in the direction of my bed.

15:24 DaemonFC; Mom said Gonad was having such bad money problems without her income that he had to seal off most of the house and just heat the room he was in.

15:24 DaemonFC; LOL

15:24 DaemonFC; Well, he got plenty of heat at the end there, in 2017.

15:24 DaemonFC; 1,600 Fahrenheit, I'm told, for a couple of hours.

15:25 TR News; "A decade old patch is set to be mainlined in the upcoming Linux 5.17 that has been carried by Google's Chrome OS kernel build for years and can help with security on #Linux systems not relying upon systemd's udev." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.17-Devtmpfs-Change

15:25 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.17-Devtmpfs-Change

15:25 TR Bot; 5.17 Patch Can Help With Systemd-Less System Security, May Break Some Old Drivers - Phoronix

15:26 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^

15:27 TR News; These are not smart and buying them is not smart, either https://etbe.coker.com.au/2022/01/04/big-smart-tvs/

15:27 TR Bot; Big Smart TVs etbe - Russell Coker

15:27 DaemonFC; I'm thinking about having it put in my will that I want that aquamation or however you spell it.

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15:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Grandma says she doesn't want to be cremated because when Jesus comes back she won't have a body.

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15:28 DaemonFC; So much fail.

15:28 schestowitz; tell her about "soul"

15:28 DaemonFC; You rot in the ground anyway, even the bones eventually.

15:28 schestowitz; and flesh rotting

15:29 DaemonFC; Yeah, the only thing burial does is take up a lot of land, cost a fortune, put hazardous chemicals into the ecosystem, etc. etc.

15:29 schestowitz; you nailed it

15:29 schestowitz; like the roman did jesus

15:29 DaemonFC; It's nothing you'd do to a planet or family members you cared about.

15:30 DaemonFC; There's a cemetery out in the country in Grant County, Indiana, called Gardens of Memory.

15:30 DaemonFC; The thing is so massive you could use it to grow enough food to feed thousands of people.

15:30 DaemonFC; But instead, here's all of these dead bodies put in the ground, like wtf.

15:31 DaemonFC; Why are we doing this? And that's just one burial ground.

15:31 schestowitz; when no remembering relatives are left, then nobody visits them anymore

15:31 schestowitz; also, not much left of the bodies

15:31 DaemonFC; Yeah, I do not want this.

15:32 DaemonFC; I don't want to die, but I will eventually.

15:32 schestowitz; RMS wants them turned into chemicals for elon musk

15:32 schestowitz; which is also wrong

15:32 DaemonFC; I don't want my corpse taking up space that could grow corn or soybeans or something.

15:32 schestowitz; just live the place alone

15:32 schestowitz; *leave

15:32 DaemonFC; It's bad enough that most people just take up space while they're alive.

15:33 DaemonFC; We have to throw them in the ground and never do anything with the ground again.

15:33 DaemonFC; All because of some ancient superstition.

15:33 DaemonFC; The God of the Universe, who created everything with a word, is powerless to resurrect people who were cremated.

15:34 DaemonFC; Okay, today I learned something. Thanks Grandma!

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15:34 DaemonFC; That and the neighbors are going to break in and kill everyone for her Boost.

15:35 TR News; #KDE Plasma 5.23.5 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159873#comment-32379

15:35 TR Bot; KDE Plasma 5.23.5 Released as the Last Update in the Series, Further Improves Plasma Wayland | Tux Machines

15:36 DaemonFC; Hmmm....

15:36 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 115.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 245.46

15:37 DaemonFC; schestowitz, 59 F in here according to my thermometer.

15:37 DaemonFC; 27 F outside according to the weather channel.

15:38 DaemonFC; Yeah, the building has heat that the landlord has to keep at a certain level or else his pipes explode and he had to get a plumber out here.

15:38 DaemonFC; So I doubt it will fall much below 55-56 no matter what it's doing outside.

15:39 DaemonFC; Plus the other tenants in the building probably have their heaters on.

15:39 DaemonFC; So I just leave mine off and let everyone around me heat my apartment and throw some extra layers on.

15:41 DaemonFC; I might nap for a while.

15:41 DaemonFC; In my cocoon.

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15:51 TR News; Plastic Packaging https://assets.amuniversal.com/6be21a8043f4013a8cf1005056a9545d

4 PM, January 4

16:05 TR News; Gustave Zander and the 19th-Century Gym The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/zander-gym/ #publicdomainreview #publicdomain

16:05 TR Bot; Gustave Zander and the 19th-Century Gym The Public Domain Review

16:07 TR News; They are looking for money (RoI), don't call them "Angels" https://hackaday.com/2022/01/04/angel-investor-gives-open-source-pnp-a-massive-boost/

16:07 TR Bot; Investor Gives Open Source PnP A Massive Boost | Hackaday

16:08 TR News; #Gentoo 2021 in retrospect & happy new year 2022! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159881 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

16:08 TR Bot; Gentoo 2021 in retrospect & happy new year 2022! | Tux Machines

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16:26 TR News; #NumPy 1.22.0 has been released https://lwn.net/Articles/880332/ #programming

16:26 TR Bot; 1.22.0 has been released [LWN.net]

16:26 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159882 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

16:26 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

16:31 TR News; Deepin Desktop With Ubuntu? UbuntuDDE Remix 21.10 is Here! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159847#comment-32380

16:31 TR Bot; UbuntuDDE Remix 21.10 - Ubuntu with Beautiful Deepin Desktop is Out! | Tux Machines

16:34 TR News; Is Maui Shell the future of the Linux desktop? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159602#comment-32381

16:34 TR Bot; Maui Shell is a convergent desktop for Linux phones, tablets, laptops, and desktop computers | Tux Machines

16:35 MinceR; https://64.media.tumblr.com/4b38a2903b4999b627fc52cea8ff41dd/tumblr_pl2vevnWer1t67zi3_1280.jpg

16:36 schestowitz; MinceR: probably a trademark time bomb

16:36 schestowitz; legal mine (gar)field

16:37 TR News; #Kernel: Tablets, Seucurity, PFRUT, and Group Balancer Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159883 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines

16:37 TR Bot; Kernel: Tablets, Seucurity, PFRUT, and Group Balancer | Tux Machines

16:37 schestowitz; "Chen, got clearance from legal?"

16:37 schestowitz; Chen: "Lee! Gal!"

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16:39 DaemonFC; Chicago is now sending out 8 times as many speed camera tickets under the 6 mph policy.

16:39 DaemonFC; Of course, what they don't want people to know is the enforcement has been largely defanged.

16:40 DaemonFC; They used to be able to get your license suspended. They can't do that anymore due to a state law that says no license suspensions for failure to pay a fine.

16:40 schestowitz; https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22250729

16:40 TR Bot; 218,724 more #covid19 cases today in #uk (half a million per day by month's end?), based on a minutes-old update. Still no #nhs update on number of COVID-19-linked hospitalisations. No update since "27 December 2021"... WHY?

16:40 schestowitz; WTF?

16:40 schestowitz; our gov. gave up

16:40 schestowitz; "herd mutiny!!!!"

16:40 DaemonFC; They can turn it over to a collection agency, but the three major bureaus no longer report civil debts, and FICO 8 disregards amounts under $100 as nuisance accounts anyway.

16:41 DaemonFC; <schestowitz> "herd mutiny!!!!"

16:41 DaemonFC; I think I made that joke last year.

16:42 DaemonFC; Speaking of herd immunity, I'm getting another Hepatitis A shot today.

16:42 TR News; #FreeBSD out of the picture last month. It was all #GNU / #Linux https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/01/04/most-reliable-hosting-company-sites-in-december-2021.html

16:42 TR Bot; Most Reliable Hosting Company Sites in December 2021 | Netcraft News

16:42 DaemonFC; Hepatitis A is still out there in the US. It's not as prevalent as it once was, but it's less contained than Hepatitis B.

16:42 DaemonFC; The one against Hep B has been out a lot longer, so more people were vaccinated as children.

16:42 MinceR; schestowitz: it's an Obvious Plant :>

16:43 DaemonFC; Hepatitis B could be eradicated in the US at some point.

16:43 schestowitz; :)

16:43 DaemonFC; There's only a few thousand cases of it per year now.

16:44 schestowitz; I took that vaccine years ago

16:44 schestowitz; no side effects or anything

16:44 schestowitz; effective, safe, not disruptive

16:44 schestowitz; unlike some clinical trials with experimental stuff

16:45 DaemonFC; Yeah, no reaction to the Hepatitis A vaccine here.

16:45 schestowitz; Borisnaro: 90% of people over 12 took this experimental thing

16:45 schestowitz; 3 days later: QUARTER MILLION CASES confirmed in one day

16:45 schestowitz; yeah, sounds effective then

16:46 schestowitz; actually that's 90% for first one

16:46 schestowitz; about 4 or 5 million never wanted to take another

16:46 schestowitz; I know a few

16:46 schestowitz; http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/01/01/nhs-covid19/

16:46 TR Bot; Blog Archive NHS (UK) Survey of COVID-19-Linked Deaths: 79% of the Fatalities Did Receive COVID-19 Vaccines (But Theres a Caveat)

16:47 DaemonFC; American left be like 600,000+ cases a day (twice as bad as the last peak when nobody was vaccinated), DAMN YOU 30% that didn't get the 95% effective vaccine!!!!!!1111

16:47 schestowitz; yes, it's not based on facts

16:47 schestowitz; the media is not a purveyor of misinformation

16:47 schestowitz; http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/12/26/bbc-coronavirus-jabs-misinformation/

16:47 TR Bot; Blog Archive Bill BC (Bill Gates-Bribed BBC) Lies About COVID-19 Data, Again (Updated)

16:50 DaemonFC; 95% effective vaccine....70% take the vaccine....60 million confirmed cases of the disease itself where the 59 million who lived have some immunity now.....

16:50 DaemonFC; And we're getting twice as many daily cases as last January.

16:50 DaemonFC; There's either something very wrong with the tests or something very wrong with the vaccines.

16:51 DaemonFC; Stallman's with them though.

16:52 DaemonFC; Hey, all that stuff that's not working? Do it again!

16:52 TR News; "explains the ongoing controversy surrounding Truth Socials use of Mastodon software, and explores Googles strict prohibition of AGPL-licensed code." https://www.fosslife.org/apgl-and-open-source-license-compliance

16:52 TR Bot; The APGL and Open Source License Compliance

16:53 DaemonFC; "The APGL is not a widely used license."

16:53 TR News; Whats behind the Aadhaar-voter id link? - Times of India Videos https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/podcasts/the-times-of-india-podcast/whats-behind-the-aadhaar-voter-id-link/videoshow/88420135.cms #timesofindia

16:53 TR Bot; Whats behind the Aadhaar-voter id link? - Times of India Videos

16:53 DaemonFC; If the only thing it does is create communities and keep the Gulags and Microsofts away, that's a plus.

16:54 schestowitz-TR; I wanted to say

16:54 schestowitz-TR; that she is connected to Microsoft or Codeplex

16:54 schestowitz-TR; because I once read something to that effect

16:54 schestowitz-TR; but...

16:54 schestowitz-TR; I cannot find it anymore

16:55 schestowitz-TR; I spent about 5 minutes searching

16:55 schestowitz-TR; maybe she removed it

16:55 schestowitz-TR; it's a major liability

16:55 schestowitz-TR; maybe was an "advisor" to them

16:55 schestowitz-TR; but I cannot prove it... just remember it, no page to prove it anymore

16:56 TR News; Centralized, decentralized or neither: which national digital ID system will you choose? | #Biometric Update https://www.biometricupdate.com/202112/centralized-decentralized-or-neither-which-national-digital-id-system-will-you-choose #biometricupdate

16:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: biometricupdate.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.biometricupdate.com/202112/centralized-decentralized-or-neither-which-national-digital-id-system-will-you-choose

16:56 TR Bot; Centralized, decentralized or neither: which national digital ID system will you choose? | Biometric Update

16:57 schestowitz; Bill's Guardian

16:57 schestowitz; https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/25/facebook-how-to-fix-break-up-regulation

16:57 TR Bot; Regulate, break up, open up: how to fix Facebook in 2022 | Facebook | The Guardian

16:57 schestowitz; let's focus on all those other companies

16:57 schestowitz; not Microsoft...

16:57 schestowitz; love,

16:57 schestowitz; Bill

16:58 TR News; The 7 Best BSD-Based Operating Systems of All Time Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159884 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

16:58 TR Bot; The 7 Best BSD-Based Operating Systems of All Time | Tux Machines

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16:59 TR News; Amber Ankerholz does #LPI 'spam' in the employer's site, occasionally LF also. This whole "diploma mill" has even invaded #fossforce http://techrights.org/2022/01/01/gafam-schools/

16:59 TR Bot; Schools Are Not Vendor Certification Mills, Theyre Meant to Teach Pupils/Students | Techrights

5 PM, January 4

17:05 DaemonFC; https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/01/03/oral-b-debuts-three-new-iphone-connected-io-smart-toothbrushes

17:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: appleinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/01/03/oral-b-debuts-three-new-iphone-connected-io-smart-toothbrushes

17:05 TR Bot; debuts three new iPhone-connected iO smart toothbrushes | AppleInsider

17:06 DaemonFC; I commented:

17:06 DaemonFC; I have an Oral-B toothbrush with Bluetooth, but I never use the Bluetooth because I hate Bluetooth and it requires apps, which are spyware.

17:06 DaemonFC; I can't imagine what it would tell me about my brushing. I have a tongue. I can go over my teeth when I'm done. Also, Braun ridiculously overcharges Americans for toothbrush heads. They're $6 apiece now. I picked up a multipack and imported it from Australia, and they came out to $2.50 per brush head.

17:06 coodre__; ok why a bluetooth toothbrush ffs

17:06 coodre__; why are these companies making everything connect to the internet

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17:06 DaemonFC; Internet of Shit

17:07 coodre__; all they do is drive up the cost, and waste energy

17:07 DaemonFC; Poor people buy Apple products. Rich people buy Apple stock.

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17:08 DaemonFC; Most of their stuff doesn't even pretend to be useful, but it has idiots lapping it up like antifreeze at a petting zoo.

17:10 DaemonFC; https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/01/03/att-verizon-wont-delay-5g-rollout-over-aviation-safety-concerns

17:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: appleinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/01/03/att-verizon-wont-delay-5g-rollout-over-aviation-safety-concerns

17:10 TR Bot; & Verizon won't delay 5G rollout over aviation safety concerns | AppleInsider

17:10 DaemonFC; I commented:

17:10 DaemonFC; "It's amazing, like, you know, how our $8 trillion dollar a year government that claims it can do whatever the hell it wants just sits back and goes "Yeah, planes might crash, but AT&T says they're not delaying 5G."."

17:11 DaemonFC; 3,000 flights grounded anyway. Let's go, Brandon.

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17:12 coodre__; how far can 5G even reach, unless theres some retard on board who doesn't know what airplane mode is

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17:13 DaemonFC; I actually had a pilot say "Please put your phone in airplane mode. YES IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Thank you." over the intercom.

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17:14 DaemonFC; coodre__, Ironically, it's the 5G bands that are only about as fast as 4G LTE that have any decent range, so that's what T-Mobile is rolling out and calling 5G, and they love it because it lets them shut down towers that they had before.

17:15 DaemonFC; And that's why my 5G Home Internet is pretty much maxed out at around 40-60 Mbps depending on conditions.

17:16 DaemonFC; I might run over to Thornton's and pick up some 20s to break for tips to the wait staff at the buffet. They work hard. They deserve a good tip. I'm sure they get stiffed more often than not.

17:17 DaemonFC; Buffets tend to attract a certain....special....type of person.

17:17 coodre__; you would be lucky to get even 10 Mbps here

17:17 DaemonFC; A dyed in the wool skinflint who weighs about 400 pounds and is going there to stack the empty plates high.

17:17 coodre__; upload speed is maxed out at 0.4 Mbps

17:18 DaemonFC; Yeah, T-Mobile is about the worst carrier you get, unless you use their MVNO "Metro" that they put in ghetto neighborhoods.

17:19 DaemonFC; They know that there's a certain type who never has any credit and who can't afford a phone anyone has ever heard of, so they put them on a short leash by making them pre-pay, and accept more throttling, on a cheap phone.

17:19 DaemonFC; You know you're in the wrong neighborhood if you start seeing stores that say Boost and Metro.

17:20 DaemonFC; And really really in the wrong neighborhood if they say Boost or Metro and have locking gates and bars on the windows.

17:20 DaemonFC; And, well, 67th street or lower if you get there and there's a guy shouting "Obamaphones! Obamaphones!".

17:21 coodre__; it's the worst ISP in terms of internet speed, but the best ISP in terms of software/router freedom (other ISPs require you to use shitty proprietary routers from China)

17:21 DaemonFC; Yeah, this Nokia piece of shit hard freezes about every few days.

17:22 DaemonFC; That's actually an improvement.

17:22 DaemonFC; It used to do it a couple times a day.

17:22 DaemonFC; They must be patching it.

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17:25 coodre__; i wonder why ISPs force people to use their own routers, probably contains a LAN or/and WiFi backdoor

17:26 DaemonFC; Hmm, Carvana has a 2018 Honda Civic with 73,000 miles for $24,000.

17:26 DaemonFC; Or a 2013 Accord with 45,700 miles for $22,000.

17:26 DaemonFC; I'd probably take the 2013 Accord, myself.

17:27 DaemonFC; Miles do a lot worse to a car than a few years of age, all things being equal.

17:27 DaemonFC; And the Accord was the more expensive model to begin with, so they probably used better parts.

17:27 DaemonFC; That's usually how it goes.

17:28 DaemonFC; You can hit a price point by sacrificing quality on pretty much anything.

17:28 activelow; both, expensive

17:29 DaemonFC; They have a lot of fucking crap too.

17:29 DaemonFC; German stuff, GM.....

17:29 activelow; 20k cash sufficed for a new car

17:29 DaemonFC; Oh, you can get a new KIA for that much.

17:29 DaemonFC; Ask Roy for his article where he quotes me on KIA.

17:29 activelow; Lada (russia) and Dacia (romania) too

17:29 DaemonFC; And why you'd be better off buying a Honda or a Toyota even if they are 5-6 years old.

17:30 DaemonFC; KIA is just absolute garbage.

17:30 activelow; kia? korea? not sure

17:30 DaemonFC; They use them as beaters for Uber and Taxi stuff in Chicago where they'll get banged around anyway.

17:30 DaemonFC; They're seen as kind of a disposable car.

17:31 activelow; i wouldn't judge a car only by brand name

17:31 DaemonFC; They only last half as long, but you just run them into the ground and buy another one because they're so cheap.

17:33 DaemonFC; KIA ignored the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act with me and also violated Illinois state law.

17:33 DaemonFC; They called outside of acceptable hours about my debt, and they called even though I asked them, in writing, to stop. Both violations of FDCPA.

17:33 DaemonFC; And they called me 12-14 times a day, which violated Illinois law of Disorderly Conduct as a Business Offense.

17:34 DaemonFC; Causing the victim's phone to ring primarily to harass, annoy, or intimidate them.

17:35 activelow; i wouldn't want to buy anything if i couldn't pay with cash

17:35 DaemonFC; Yeah, don't.

17:35 DaemonFC; Don't ever buy anything you don't have the cash for.

17:35 activelow; either, i got the money, cash, or i have none. if i got no cash then i don't buy anything.

17:35 DaemonFC; Carvana accepts ACH transfers and has the car to you within 3 business days.

17:36 activelow; most of the spendings here are not related to any decisions of mine, and i need to rent some place.

17:36 DaemonFC; In other words, cash and carry.

17:36 DaemonFC; So to speak.

17:36 activelow; reminds me, in comparison to former GDR (east germany) rents increased almost 1000%

17:36 DaemonFC; I think the business model is decent. You don't haggle with a salescritter.

17:36 DaemonFC; You don't get strongarmed in a finance department that packs a loan full of shit you don't need.

17:36 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.88 k/sec., IPFS upstream 157.00 average k/sec., average swarm size 245.43

17:36 activelow; a flat ~50sqm in east germany was ~28Mark East (7 Euros for the entire flat), per month

17:37 DaemonFC; Warranty companies that don't answer your phone and deny all claims.

17:37 DaemonFC; YOu get that car lots. Believe me!

17:37 activelow; nowadays, those 7Euros rent didn't suffice for a single square meter anymore

17:37 activelow; wait, no, that's far more than 1000% inflation for the rent alone

17:38 DaemonFC; Well, I was reading a blog where someone got rid of their VHS tapes because they calculated how much of their apartment they were taking up, and how much it cost to rent that much space.

17:38 DaemonFC; My dad is just lucky he has cheap land in Indiana.

17:39 DaemonFC; If he was paying NYC rent prices, $12,000 a month worth of apartment space to store his porn.

17:40 DaemonFC; It was just disgusting how that divorce played out. Especially the custody hearing where mom dragged in a bunch of lawn bags full of porn and told the judge "I had to stop here even though it's only a fraction, because it's all I could get in my car.".

17:40 DaemonFC; In a marriage with no kids, that wouldn't matter, but when you're fighting for custody, you drag your ex around in the mud like divorce courts worked 40 years ago in most states.

17:41 DaemonFC; No, kids, not worth fighting dirty like that. The court costs pile up and ruin you both.

17:41 DaemonFC; Divorce lawyers love marriage.

17:41 DaemonFC; Everyone else.....Well, on the whole society seems to be moving away from the concept, honestly.

17:42 DaemonFC; I agree with what the late Jerry Doyle said about marriage ceremonies.

17:42 DaemonFC; If they take longer than a margarita does to separate, it's gone on too long.

17:43 DaemonFC; If you're smart you'll just get married to someone you trust and pay $10 and have a judge do it.

17:43 DaemonFC; If you're stupid, you'll spend all day on it, take distant relations out to dinner, hire a photographer, and spend $15,000.

17:44 DaemonFC; If I spend $15,000 on something it's going to be a car, or a down payment on a house.

17:45 DaemonFC; Not pretending like I'm a member of the Royal Family for a few hours and then the credit card people go "Bitch, where's my money!".

17:49 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I commented on WGN:

17:49 DaemonFC; You know, the Russians are taking better care of Crimea and nobody fought it, and one of the reasons is the child pornographers are being executed no when the Ukraine wasn't doing anything about it.

17:49 DaemonFC; *now

17:49 activelow; 20K cash, that's almost 10years of income here (excluding taxes, and not accounting for the rent which is way over my head)

17:50 DaemonFC; <activelow> 20K cash, that's almost 10years of income here (excluding taxes, and not accounting for the rent which is way over my head)

17:50 DaemonFC; That's about what a couple of minimum wage earners can put back after paying all of their bills over the course of a year or so here.

17:50 DaemonFC; If they really want to, and don't do anything truly stupid.

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17:53 DaemonFC; "Verizon and T-Mobile have discontinued their iPad rebate program in partnership with Apple following widespread customer complaints that the program was ineffective, flawed, and rarely worked as intended."

17:53 DaemonFC; This is why Libertarians hate the government. When you get a government program that's ineffective, flawed, and rarely works as intended, and causes tremendous pain for more people than it helps, they keep it going forever and give it more money.

17:53 DaemonFC; ---

17:53 DaemonFC; My comment on AppleInsider.

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17:59 DaemonFC; A comment I left for my dad:

17:59 DaemonFC; I don't think that Libertarianism is a natural fit for the Republican Party. We actually criticize the Republican Party far more, I think, than the Democratic one. At least the Democrats are open about what they'll do. Dump more money into social rot.

17:59 DaemonFC; The Republicans say they'll cut the government down to size, and then they get in there, and spend 8 years, and it's running bigger deficits than ever so billionaires don't pay any taxes, and then they spend spend spend on military pork and saber rattling and impotent and imbecilic bluster with money they borrowed from the country they say is now threatening us, at ruinous interest rates, which that country buys our country with. And somehow

17:59 DaemonFC; there's 47% more government after W left than before. Amazing how the Republicans manage to be even worse than the Democrats.

17:59 DaemonFC; Then the Republicans go further and want to regulate personal behavior that's really none of their business. So, the Republicans are even more of a natural enemy to Libertarians than Democrats. And it was in that sense that I voted Trump out.

6 PM, January 4

18:01 DaemonFC; ---

18:01 DaemonFC; Court decisions that tell the government "No, you can't do that!" are terrific.

18:01 DaemonFC; There should be way more of them.

18:02 DaemonFC; The country gets a little less non-Free each time the courts tell the government "No, you can't fuck with them in that particular way!".

18:02 DaemonFC; It's something that does not happen enough.

18:02 DaemonFC; The state almost always wins, even when it loses in court.

18:03 DaemonFC; Because it can manipulate you using threats and bribes and it will do whatever it has to do in order to win.

18:05 DaemonFC; When the IRS penalty for not buying insurance disappeared, the feds resorted to bigger bribes, when they had to, to keep people enrolling in health insurance that wasn't a good deal.

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18:24 XFaCE; MinceR: TFW when you spend way too long perfecting a shell script

18:27 XFaCE; and keeping it POSIX even when busybox ash supports the features you want

18:28 MinceR; if it's so complicated i'd rather write it in python or lisp

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18:33 XFaCE; it isn't, I just made it look really really good

18:33 XFaCE; <@MinceR> if it's so complicated i'd rather write it in python or lisp

18:33 MinceR; :>

18:33 XFaCE; AWK

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19:17 leah; schestowitz: btw, the osboot

19:17 leah; schestowitz: btw, the osboot version of that policy is now live

19:18 leah; https://osboot.org/news/policy.html

19:18 TR Bot; osboot Binary blob reduction policy

19:18 leah; it differs wildly from the libreboot one, but with the same ideology behind it, and with the same goals. osboot merely takes a different practical approach

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19:37 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 143.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 245.40

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19:39 XFaCE; leah: correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't OpenBSD push for blob-free for pragmatic security reasons? I.e. not including blobs by default and only as an optional package.

19:39 TR News; " #EasyOS has #MPV video player 0.32.0. I have now compiled 0.34.1 in OpenEmbedded, and added libass, lua and luajit dependencies -- these are needed for OSC and OSD (On Screen Control, On Screen Display)." https://bkhome.org/news/202201/mpv-bumped-to-0341.html #gnu #linux

19:39 TR Bot; MPV bumped to 0.34.1

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19:41 XFaCE; leah: in other words, why not copy the precedent Theo/OpenBSD has set rather than NIH a new policy?

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19:43 XFaCE; https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=143355112811564&w=2

19:43 TR Bot; 'Re: Blob-free OpenBSD kernel needed' - MARC

19:43 TR News; "In this blog post, wed like to do exactly this for #Bootlin , which has seen a number of significant changes this year, as well as a continuation of its usual activities." ttps://bootlin.com/blog/2021-at-bootlin-a-year-in-review/

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19:45 TR News; "All that technology (and more) is powered, quite literally, by open source, in one way or another." But #linuxfoundation REJECTS such technology and uses #proprietarySoftware instead! https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/a-new-years-message-from-nithya-ruff-2022/

19:45 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/a-new-years-message-from-nithya-ruff-2022/

19:45 TR Bot; A New Year's Message from Nithya Ruff (2022) - Linux Foundation

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19:46 TR News; #LibreOffice at #FOSDEM 2022 February 5-6 - The Document Foundation Blog https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/01/04/libreoffice-at-fosdem-2022-february-5-6/ #documentfoundation #opendocument #freesw #libreoffice #odf | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/04/#latest

19:46 TR Bot; LibreOffice at FOSDEM 2022 February 5-6 - The Document Foundation Blog

19:47 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts

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19:48 TR News; #Firebird ought to #deletegithub entirely https://mapopa.blogspot.com/2022/01/firebird-grammar-railroad-diagram.html #microsoft #proprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github

19:48 TR Bot; Mariuz's Blog: Firebird Grammar railroad diagram

19:48 TR Bot; Delete Github - Techrights

19:49 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159885 #Linux #TuxMachines

19:49 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

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19:52 TR News; Attila Pinter and Maurizio Galli join the #openSUSE Board https://sysadmin-journal.com/attila-pinter-and-maurizio-galli-join-the-opensuse-board/ #suse #gnu #linux

19:52 Alternative link; Cloudflare: sysadmin-journal.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://sysadmin-journal.com/attila-pinter-and-maurizio-galli-join-the-opensuse-board/

19:52 TR Bot; Attila Pinter and Maurizio Galli join the openSUSE Board

19:54 TR News; Small steps towards a #GTK 4-based Initial Setup Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159886 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

19:54 TR Bot; Small steps towards a GTK 4-based Initial Setup | Tux Machines

19:54 TR News; #freesw News: Court, Governments Newfound Support, Plus Latest Linux Niceties Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159887 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

19:54 TR Bot; OSS News: Court, Governments Newfound Support, Plus Latest Linux Niceties | Tux Machines

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19:55 TR News; "It appears that #Gulag created a handy tool that helps finding the command which causes a GPU hang/crash. It is called Graphics Flight Recorder (GFR) and was open-sourced a year ago but didnt receive any attention." https://blogs.igalia.com/dpiliaiev/google-flight-recorder/

19:55 TR Bot; Graphics Flight Recorder - unknown but handy tool to debug GPU hangs - Danylos blog

19:58 TR News; Only fools buy these... https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/01/03/oral-b-debuts-three-new-iphone-connected-io-smart-toothbrushes

19:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: appleinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/01/03/oral-b-debuts-three-new-iphone-connected-io-smart-toothbrushes

19:58 TR Bot; debuts three new iPhone-connected iO smart toothbrushes | AppleInsider

8 PM, January 4

20:00 TR News; #linuxfoundation is #openwashing #surveillance again. What a truly disgusting org.

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20:01 leah; XFaCE: i do not agree with the openbsd way of doing things

20:01 TR News; #gnu rush version 2.2 (stable) released on 2 January 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Rush #freesw

20:01 TR Bot; Rush - Free Software Directory

20:02 XFaCE; leah: your policy seems comparable if not identical to openbsd though

20:03 XFaCE; I'm guessing you aren't maintaining a CVS repo perhaps

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20:03 leah; my policy is completely different:

20:03 leah; i include them, by default, when required

20:03 leah; in the default distribution

20:03 leah; though, there are exceptions

20:03 leah; for example, mrc.bin cannot be redistributed freely

20:03 leah; google hosts chromebook images with them, which they're allowed to do

20:03 XFaCE; "The kernel includes a few minor firmwares which are FREELY PROVIDED

20:03 XFaCE; by the vendors of that hardware, since those vendors chose to not put

20:03 XFaCE; those firmware onto ROMS on their cards. Those firmwares are FREE.

20:03 XFaCE; Please indicate a single vendor who wants MONEY for that firmware.

20:03 XFaCE; They don't want money. They want people to use the hardware which

20:03 XFaCE; they skipped on adding a ROM to. That is why the firmware is free.

20:04 XFaCE; A few other firmwares are slightly less free. Meaning they are free

20:04 leah; coreboot has a script to extract those, from public chromebook images

20:04 XFaCE; for money, but they try to stipulate subtle rules we do not want to

20:04 XFaCE; impact the freedom of our source tree with. To solve this specific

20:04 XFaCE; problem, a few creative developers in the group have found a way to

20:04 XFaCE; package those up and make them available on the internet. OpenBSD

20:04 XFaCE; has a tool built in which will download those, so that our base source

20:04 XFaCE; tree remains full of freedom."

20:04 XFaCE; ^basically what you said, unless I'm mistaken

20:04 XFaCE; (was too all-encompassing in the degree of un-included firmware with OpenBSD... wifi firmware came to mind though)

20:07 leah; yes, i'm aware

20:07 leah; osbmk is similar in spirit but not the same in practise

20:07 TR News; Liam Dawe and Micro/Michael Phoronix coverage lots of stuff about #hardware today that has nothing to do with #linux or -- yet worse -- is all about #microsoft :/

20:07 XFaCE; <leah> osbmk is similar in spirit but not the same in practise

20:08 XFaCE; you haven't found a way to clone Theo De Raadt yet?

20:08 TR News; Important reminder to #gnu #linux users: Intel does NOT like you. http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks

20:08 TR Bot; Intel leaks - Techrights

20:08 XFaCE; </joke>

20:10 TR News; #KaOS 2022.01 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159859#comment-32383

20:10 TR Bot; KaOS Linux Sees First 2022 ISO Release with Initial ZFS Support, Latest KDE Goodies | Tux Machines

20:11 TR News; No, #techradar ... Ingo Molnar is not "solo developer"... he has a well known employer

20:11 XFaCE; The joke being that OpenBSD is so inextricably tied to Theo that having practical differences is inevitable, thus stretching the threshold of similar practice so much so that anything less than cloning Theo will always produce something very different in practice.

20:13 TR News; Micro 'Michael' Larabel and Liam Dawe ought not let their sites become a product catalogue of malicious #hardware companies. Focus on #linux instead...

20:15 AdmFubar; the second paragraph in the last section of the article sums it up! https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-use-video-player-to-steal-credit-cards-from-over-100-sites/

20:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-use-video-player-to-steal-credit-cards-from-over-100-sites/

20:15 TR Bot; Hackers use video player to steal credit cards from over 100 sites

20:15 MinceR; cloning Theo will not result in a duplicate personality, only a duplicate of the genetic material

20:17 AdmFubar; https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/01/04/the-linux-kernel-could-soon-be-50-to-80-faster-to-build/

20:17 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/01/04/the-linux-kernel-could-soon-be-50-to-80-faster-to-build/

20:17 TR Bot; The Linux kernel could soon be 50 to 80% faster to build - CNX Software

20:17 XFaCE; MinceR: I had no idea. /s

20:18 XFaCE; AdmFubar: Can't be from adding Rust

20:18 MinceR; :>

20:18 XFaCE; then it would be 50 - 80% slower

20:19 psydroid4; could the linux kernel lose 50 to 80% of its code and become 50 to 80 times faster to run?

20:21 AdmFubar; didn't read the article did ya?

20:21 XFaCE; I believe psydroid4 made what is called in the industry a joke.

20:21 schestowitz-TR; [20:10] <techrights-news> No, #techradar ... Ingo Molnar is not "solo developer"... he has a well known employer

20:22 schestowitz-TR; it's shallow hype from hungary

20:22 schestowitz-TR; man submits patch

20:22 schestowitz-TR; media acts like linux was revolutionised

20:22 schestowitz-TR; and how many even build a kernel?

20:22 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: hand up

20:23 XFaCE; building kernels shouldn't be some advanced knowledge though

20:23 XFaCE; everyone should build them

20:23 XFaCE; and disable modules while they're at it

20:24 TR News; "Ubuntu if you opt for the XPS 13 Plus "Developer Edition."" https://www.windowscentral.com/dell-xps-13-plus-announcement-ces-2022

20:24 Alternative link; Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/dell-xps-13-plus-announcement-ces-2022

20:24 TR Bot; Dell unveils redesigned 'XPS 13 Plus' with haptic trackpad and capacitive function keys | Windows Central

20:27 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: do you disable modules?

20:27 XFaCE; I mean the entire support for them

20:27 schestowitz-TR; no

20:28 schestowitz-TR; don't forget, you need patching too

20:28 XFaCE; which patches

20:28 schestowitz-TR; and in some cases, thanks to some a-hole from Gulag, you may need Microsoft to sign the binaries

20:28 schestowitz-TR; XFaCE: security parches for starters

20:29 TR News; #Graphics: WineD3D, Mozilla Firefox, and GPUs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159888 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

20:29 XFaCE; Do you have any specific recommendations?

20:29 TR Bot; Graphics: WineD3D, Mozilla Firefox, and GPUs | Tux Machines

20:29 XFaCE; Disabling module support seems a pretty good first step

20:30 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: Do you mean the linux hardened patches?

20:31 TR News; Keyboard and mouse mapping to gamepad tool AntiMicroX v3.2.1 out now Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159889 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

20:31 TR Bot; Keyboard and mouse mapping to gamepad tool AntiMicroX v3.2.1 out now | Tux Machines

20:32 schestowitz-TR; XFaCE: no

20:32 schestowitz-TR; just standard system updates

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20:35 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: don't really have to "patch" those

20:35 XFaCE; just update the linux source

20:36 XFaCE; Also the no-module approach need not apply to Nvidia systems... short of using Nouveau

20:36 XFaCE; Good luck to the proprietary driver users

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20:36 coodre__; rust's inefficient way to compiling its official compiler and the community's hostility towards alternative compilers really makes me think that rust is proprietary

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20:37 MinceR; their trademark policy is also proprietary

20:37 MinceR; plus it went from being owned by mozilla to being owned by microsoft

20:38 MinceR; neither of those entities support our freedom

20:38 TR News; #LinuxFoundation site is now rerunning old articles from Linux.com, composed by people whom it laid off after they had actually promoted Linux, unlike this "Foundation"

20:38 XFaCE; MinceR: Microsoft "bought" another Foundation eh?

20:38 MinceR; yeah

20:39 MinceR; or the suits just naturally gravitated together

20:39 XFaCE; That explains the current state of the Rust Foundation

20:40 coodre__; microsoft is slowly trying to ruin the free software community while maintaining its image of being forgiving

20:41 MinceR; ooh, forgiving like the catholic church

20:41 TR News; Frustrating to see how 'Linux' sites, throughout the day today, treat #intel news/noise (pure hardware, with #nsa back doors even!) like it's "Linux" news... those sites should know better. Intel does not even like Linux (it's not good for making lots of sales) http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks

20:41 TR Bot; Intel leaks - Techrights

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20:42 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159890 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

20:42 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

20:42 coodre__; if intel really cared about free software, it would have already publicly released the source code of their Intel WiFi chip firmwares

20:42 XFaCE; coodre__: forgiving? I mean there's a lot fake marketing from them but I don't think that's the image they are coming from

20:42 coodre__; i didn't know what word to put it

20:42 XFaCE; More like the totally un-malicious individual offering treats on the street

20:43 AdmFubar; https://www.osnews.com/story/134396/unicode-normalization-forms-when-o-o/

20:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: osnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.osnews.com/story/134396/unicode-normalization-forms-when-o-o/

20:43 TR Bot; normalization forms: when != OSnews

20:43 MinceR; https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000615763561-c3m4x3-t500x500.jpg

20:44 XFaCE; exactly MinceR

20:45 psydroid4; Intel cares about money, not about free software

20:45 MinceR; even the paint is eco-friendly, as you can see

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20:45 TR News; I rarely trust anything with the word "Foundation" in its name; that word usually just means "avoiding taxes" and it's typically controlled by rich/powerful/power-hungry tax-evading vandals. It didn't have to be like this; but that's how it is...

20:45 psydroid4; free software costs them money

20:45 MinceR; intel also cares about leverage, like microsoft

20:45 MinceR; otherwise they'd sell desirable and less locked down products as an option

20:46 coodre__; free software "foundation"?

20:46 psydroid4; yes

20:46 AdmFubar; https://www.pogowasright.org/nz-community-law-centres-24k-legal-costs-bid-after-privacy-breach-declined/

20:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pogowasright.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pogowasright.org/nz-community-law-centres-24k-legal-costs-bid-after-privacy-breach-declined/

20:46 TR Bot; NZ: Community Law Centres $24k legal costs bid after privacy breach declined

20:46 schestowitz; coodre__: I though of FSF too when I wrote it

20:46 schestowitz; it's a bit of an exception, but only a bit

20:47 XFaCE; The Open Group

20:47 XFaCE; ...is not an exception lol

20:47 schestowitz; Opel Group

20:47 XFaCE; ...I don't get the joke

20:47 MinceR; i thought The Closed Group didn't call itself a foundation

20:47 AdmFubar; https://www.pogowasright.org/review-of-u-s-state-law-developments-in-2021/

20:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pogowasright.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pogowasright.org/review-of-u-s-state-law-developments-in-2021/

20:47 TR Bot; Review of U.S. State Law Developments in 2021

20:48 XFaCE; MinceR: " It was established in 1996 when X/Open merged with the Open Software Foundation."

20:48 XFaCE; A rose by any other name

20:48 MinceR; :>

20:48 TR News; Maybe a #slowNewsDay but #gnu #linux centric sites ought not (IMHO) use this as an excuse to promote proprietary crap with #backdoors ... better silence than this...

20:48 psydroid4; what Software was Open?

20:48 psydroid4; was the source code available?

20:49 XFaCE; between members

20:49 XFaCE; the "open" part was more the standards and documentation

20:49 XFaCE; POSIX et al.

20:49 AdmFubar; https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/security-windows-format-command-allows-dll-loading-abuse.443191/

20:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: wilderssecurity.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/security-windows-format-command-allows-dll-loading-abuse.443191/

20:49 TR Bot; Security: Windows Format command allows DLL loading abuse | Wilders Security Forums

20:50 psydroid4; Windows itself is abuse

20:50 MinceR; "Open" means the same thing as in current "open source", i.e. "please buy our stuff"

20:50 MinceR; also in "OpenVMS"

20:50 XFaCE; Or that patent share group that I forgot the name of

20:50 XFaCE; OIN

20:51 XFaCE; Open Innovation Network

20:51 XFaCE; That's the kind of Open the Open Group is

20:51 TR News; "Smart" TV: a TV that lasts you 3 years instead of 30 years like some old TVs did. Maybe the 'Linux' Foundation will let some certificate lapse, whereupon some features get 'bricked'. Vendor: come on, buy a new one!!

20:51 schestowitz-TR; XFaCE: Invention

20:51 XFaCE; Precisely the same, even with the same members

20:51 psydroid4; "OpenVMS Hobbyist License" that is hard to get access to, if you ask

20:51 *psydroid4 tried

20:51 schestowitz-TR; LOT is also connected to LOT

20:51 schestowitz-TR; which is conected to LF

20:51 schestowitz-TR; similar front groups

20:51 schestowitz-TR; same owners

20:51 schestowitz-TR; different purposes

20:52 coodre__; what happens if you don't connect your smart tv to the internet

20:52 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: you should start an open innovation network

20:52 psydroid4; it turns on at night looking for a connection

20:53 coodre__; what if you rip off the network card

20:53 psydroid4; I have one here that has never been connected to the internet

20:53 psydroid4; I don't know, I never went that far

20:53 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/04/india_apple_antitrust_investigation_ordered/

20:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/04/india_apple_antitrust_investigation_ordered/

20:53 TR Bot; Indias competition regulator launches probes into Apple The Register

20:54 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: Open Invasion Network

20:54 schestowitz-TR; lol

20:54 coodre__; i like how they probe apple but never think about microsoft (even with their extremely obvious antitrust issues), almost as if microsoft paid them off

20:54 AdmFubar; what is you don't use the smart part of the tv? I use kodi on mine..;)

20:54 schestowitz-TR; XFaCE: TOO descriptive

20:54 schestowitz-TR; "too many details"

20:55 psydroid4; for me it's just another screen attached to my laptop

20:55 psydroid4; via a docking station

20:59 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: Open Invasive Network?

20:59 schestowitz-TR; btw, I will do a video shortly about OSI

9 PM, January 4

21:00 schestowitz-TR; seems they take my complaints seriously

21:00 schestowitz-TR; and want a dialogue

21:00 MinceR; Openly Invasive Network?

21:00 schestowitz-TR; software patents are fine, sign here pleas Foundation

21:02 schestowitz-TR; FSF is funded by the sponsors of OIN

21:02 schestowitz-TR; so it never moans about what they do

21:02 XFaCE; MinceR: nice

21:02 schestowitz-TR; too many things FSF cannot comment on

21:02 XFaCE; MinceR: state-enabled corporate invading the volunteer communities of software

21:02 schestowitz-TR; so FSF cannot eb revolutionary anymore

21:03 schestowitz-TR; say x, lose money from y and z

21:03 XFaCE; Isn't OIN primarily IBM-enabled and founded?

21:03 TR News; #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159891 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

21:03 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines

21:03 schestowitz-TR; XFaCE: 6 co-founders

21:03 schestowitz-TR; but IBM the most powerful of them

21:04 schestowitz-TR; also OIN's first CEO was from IBM

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21:04 TR News; #FreeSoftware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159892 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

21:04 TR Bot; Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines

21:04 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159893 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

21:04 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines

21:04 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159894 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

21:04 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

21:05 schestowitz-TR; International Bailout Maggots

21:05 schestowitz-TR; funded by governmentsd

21:05 schestowitz-TR; you are not their client

21:05 schestowitz-TR; politicians are

21:06 schestowitz-TR; to Microsoft, the users also not clients either

21:06 schestowitz-TR; Dell, HP etc. are

21:06 schestowitz-TR; so they push them to not ever install gnu/linux

21:06 XFaCE; a lot of the more public-facing employees of IBM even act like intelligence agents

21:06 *leah has quit (connection closed)

21:06 schestowitz-TR; or settle on 'WSL'

21:06 MinceR; that doesn't make much sense to me

21:06 schestowitz-TR; as a compromise

21:06 *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights

21:06 schestowitz-TR; misnamed Windows

21:06 *leah has quit (connection closed)

21:06 MinceR; after all, MICROS~1 would attempt to "whack" dHell over offering alternative OS-es

21:06 *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights

21:06 psydroid4; with Pluton becoming a reality on AMD, Intel, Qualcomm and possibly more chips the time has come for free software gaming and game development to take off

21:06 XFaCE; should leah or should she go

21:07 XFaCE; if she go there will be trouble

21:07 XFaCE; and if she stay there will be double

21:07 XFaCE; so c'mon and let me know

21:07 MinceR; Shego?

21:07 psydroid4; rock the leah

21:07 XFaCE; MICROS~1 lol MinceR

21:08 psydroid4; "I would like to have one bag of MICROS~1 and one bag of CHEETOS~1, please!"

21:09 TR News; Links 4/1/2022: Ingo Molnars Latest Work and #KaOS 2022.01 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/01/04/kaos-2022-01/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/04/kaos-2022-01/

21:09 TR Bot; Links 4/1/2022: Ingo Molnars Latest Work and KaOS 2022.01 | Techrights

21:09 schestowitz-TR; psydroid4: Pluton the dog?

21:09 schestowitz-TR; "yo dawg, I herd you thought Microsoft was for security..."

21:10 psydroid4; schestowitz-TR, be sure to kick that puppy to get a feel for it

21:10 MinceR; pluton as in the igneous intrusion

21:10 XFaCE; Microsoft is for integrating software packages and calling it "integrated windows functionality"

21:10 schestowitz-TR; psydroid4: CHEETOS~1 too long

21:10 schestowitz-TR; FAT would make it CHEETO~1 ... -2..

21:10 XFaCE; It isn't software, it's components

21:11 schestowitz-TR; psydroid4: be careful, James Z will send you to therapists

21:13 TR News; Contrary to what misleading media in the #uk is saying (yes, a #misinformation source), only half of the British population got "booster", based on #nhs data

21:14 psydroid4; schestowitz-TR, I am not afraid of that, those therapists may need to see therapists themselves after meeting me

21:15 leah; XFaCE: is that a reference to a song? it seems familiar

21:16 XFaCE; Yes, it is "Should I stay or should I go" by the Clash

21:16 TR News; 271,686 more #covid19 cases (tested positive) in #france today. Does that mean more deaths? Of course. 351! Of course the COVIDiots online claim that this approach of letting it 'out on the loose' would mean nothing bad. The hospitals won't be available, even if you're young and are invulnerable to COVID-19.

21:16 *Noisytoot_ is now known as Noisytoot

21:19 AdmFubar; https://techcrunch.com/2022/01/03/liquid-death-lands-75-million-more-in-funding-including-to-roll-out-flavored-water/

21:19 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techcrunch.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techcrunch.com/2022/01/03/liquid-death-lands-75-million-more-in-funding-including-to-roll-out-flavored-water/

21:19 TR Bot; Death lands $75M more to expand the brand TechCrunch

21:19 schestowitz; "flavored-water"

21:19 schestowitz; I remember seeing this thing

21:19 schestowitz; it's called... wait

21:20 XFaCE; flavoured*

21:20 schestowitz; like when you mix h2o with something else

21:21 schestowitz; chips = flavoured potatoes

21:22 leah; flavoured bacteria

21:22 leah; (yoghurt)

21:24 schestowitz-TR; "MAY contain milk"

21:32 AdmFubar; https://games.slashdot.org/story/22/01/03/2217219/over-140000-gaming-firms-close-as-china-continues-new-license-freeze?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed

21:32 Alternative link; Cloudflare: slashdot.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://games.slashdot.org/story/22/01/03/2217219/over-140000-gaming-firms-close-as-china-continues-new-license-freeze?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed

21:32 TR Bot; Over 140,000 Gaming Firms Close As China Continues New License Freeze - Slashdot

21:34 coodre__; china really hates gaming

21:35 AdmFubar; https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28212

21:35 TR Bot; A Simple Batch File That Blocks People

21:36 AdmFubar; no they only like the game of politics

21:37 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 95.80 average k/sec., average swarm size 245.37

21:39 psydroid4; now "commenters" are saying that talk of this Pluton stuff preventing GNU/Linux from being installed is "FUD"

21:40 *psydroid4 feels the entire current computer industry is compromised and must go away

21:41 coodre__; how? does it contain secure boot forced on, and keys unmodifiable

21:42 psydroid4; it contains a Microsoft backdoor in silicon

21:42 psydroid4; be afraid, be very afraid and walk away

21:42 psydroid4; or run

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21:45 coodre__; the only thing that makes it work is the BIOS, and maybe microsoft is gonna coerce manufactors to put the security chip in and make their BIOS use it

21:45 coodre__; if the BIOS doesn't interact with the chip, how is it gonna work

21:46 psydroid4; *every* CPU from Intel, AMD and Qualcomm will contain it going forward

21:46 MinceR; "security" chip

21:47 coodre__; we need to switch architectures

21:47 psydroid4; I already have

21:47 MinceR; to what?

21:47 coodre__; mips? m68k?

21:47 MinceR; ARM typically comes with TrustZone or ThreadX

21:47 MinceR; is anyone even selling MIPS or m68k anymore?

21:47 psydroid4; anything that works for us

21:47 MinceR; what will run a "modern" website?

21:48 psydroid4; "modern" websites don't run, they crawl

21:48 coodre__; anything with enough processing power. unless the websites are programmed in x86 assembly

21:48 MinceR; :>

21:48 psydroid4; not even that

21:48 psydroid4; but I don't want to visit such websites anyway

21:50 coodre__; i'm pretty sure this whole pluton shit can be avoided if you switch to old PCs

21:51 psydroid4; there is plenty to choose out of ARM, RISC-V, POWER, MIPS, M68K, Alpha, SPARC

21:51 psydroid4; sure, but I don't want to do so

21:51 psydroid4; those often consume too much power compared to more "modern" hardware

21:52 psydroid4; and what will you do when the old PCs die?

21:53 psydroid4; I still have a few here for specific use cases, but I am aware they could break any time

21:55 coodre__; the problem is when vendors care about their windoze cerification so much they're willing to put anything in their hardware, how do you fight back

21:55 psydroid4; you don't fight back

21:55 psydroid4; not when they set the rules

21:56 psydroid4; you invest in alternatives

21:56 psydroid4; and stop caring about closed source x86 software, especially games

21:57 psydroid4; x86 windoze games are a form of lock-in too

21:57 SomeH4x0r; Wine?

21:57 coodre__; theres a website called apollo core, they're claiming to make some modern m68k cpu

21:57 psydroid4; that's still a workaround for a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place

21:57 SomeH4x0r; though Wine loads my CPU more than the same game run on Windows?

21:57 SomeH4x0r; *Windows.

21:58 psydroid4; I don't know about that, I don't really use Windows

10 PM, January 4

22:00 psydroid4; coodre__, it shouldn't be too hard to get those chips produced and build systems with them

22:00 psydroid4; there is also j-core that is compatible with SH4

22:07 psydroid4; https://www.cnx-software.com/2017/03/13/turtle-board-is-a-raspberry-pi-2-like-fpga-board-for-j-core-j2-open-source-superh-sh2-soc/

22:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2017/03/13/turtle-board-is-a-raspberry-pi-2-like-fpga-board-for-j-core-j2-open-source-superh-sh2-soc/

22:07 TR Bot; Turtle Board is a Raspberry Pi 2 Like FPGA Board for J-Core J2 Open Source SuperH SH2 SoC - CNX Software

22:08 coodre__; the problem would be finding a GPU that's compatible with it (or am i wrong?)

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22:10 psydroid4; https://lists.j-core.org/pipermail/j-core/2021-June/000975.html

22:10 TR Bot; [J-core] Did anybody do anything with those turtle boards?

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22:11 psydroid4; I think it has some support for graphics?

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22:12 psydroid4; https://libre-soc.org/3d_gpu/

22:12 TR Bot; 3d gpu

22:12 psydroid4; I hope this isn't going to be some kind of vapourware

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22:16 coodre___; some of the amiga (m68k) GPUs already has unofficial Xorg drivers

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22:17 AdmFubar; they would know ! wouldn't theny? https://www.rawstory.com/melania-trump-bitcoin/

22:17 Alternative link; Cloudflare: rawstory.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rawstory.com/melania-trump-bitcoin/

22:17 TR Bot; Melania Trump promotes Bitcoin from her official account days after her husband suggests crypto is a scam - Raw Story - Celebrating 17 Years of Independent Journalism

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22:25 psydroid4; the disingenuous thing about Pluton in chips isn't that it exists, but that its supporters are saying it's not a big deal

22:25 psydroid4; "Vista telemetry is not a big deal, you can disable it"

22:26 psydroid4; "Secure Boot is not a big deal, just disable it in uEFI"

22:26 psydroid4; "The TPM isn't enabled by default, so no need to worry"

22:27 psydroid4; they want to force these things onto people and at the same time they don't want them to have alternatives to flock to

22:29 schestowitz; https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/04/riscv_cto_interview/

22:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/04/riscv_cto_interview/

22:29 TR Bot; RISC-V CTO: We're not chip dictators like Arm or x86 The Register

22:29 schestowitz; "I talked to somebody from Microsoft. They're not there yet. But they're in a bunch of Linux Foundation things. When we get in the room, all we want to do is be good engineers. Is Windows in RISC-V's future? Probably. Is it sometime soon? Probably not."

22:30 MinceR; https://www.oglaf.com/prickles/

22:30 TR Bot; Prickles

22:32 psydroid4; and even then, what is Microsoft going to do?

22:32 schestowitz-TR; make windows work on 100mb of ram

22:32 psydroid4; port Windows to every architecture out there?

22:33 TR News; "Right now is a really interesting time to be involved in Linux gaming, it's absolutely not perfect but we're in the middle of it becoming absolutely incredible a few short years from now. Today Linus is right about Linux gaming but not for long." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HeJosuGLq0c

22:33 psydroid4; and have no applications that people want to use?

22:33 TR Bot; Linus Is Right About Linux Gaming... For Now - Invidious

22:33 MinceR; spend tons of money on ads shitting on all architectures they haven't ported Backdoors to

22:33 psydroid4; they know they've painted themselves into a corner they are never going to get out of

22:33 coodre___; even if microsoft ported windows to risc-v, it would have no program support, because all the proprietary software is stuck on x86

22:33 psydroid4; so they are just delaying the inevitable

22:34 TR News; #GarudaLinux 220101 Cinnamon Run Through - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AnnP_2uG1MM #video #invidious #gnu #linux

22:34 TR Bot; Garuda Linux 220101 Cinnamon Run Through - Invidious

22:34 psydroid4; and that's all that their actions are about these days

22:35 psydroid4; not only do they want to take the entire software industry down with them, they also want to take the entire hardware industry down with them

22:35 TR News; #WordPress 5.9 RC 1 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159895 #GPL #CMS #freesw #TuxMachines

22:35 TR Bot; WordPress 5.9 RC 1 | Tux Machines

22:35 TR News; #RISCV CTO: Were not chip dictators like Arm or #x86 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159896 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

22:35 TR Bot; RISC-V CTO: We're not chip dictators like Arm or x86 | Tux Machines

22:35 schestowitz-TR; psydroid4: to be fair,

22:36 schestowitz-TR; miss redmond

22:36 schestowitz-TR; from risc-v

22:36 psydroid4; megalomania

22:36 schestowitz-TR; et al

22:36 schestowitz-TR; not sounding too keen on microsoft

22:36 schestowitz-TR; just being polite

22:36 schestowitz-TR; " Is Windows in RISC-V's future? Probably. Is it sometime soon? Probably not."'

22:36 schestowitz-TR; probably not

22:36 psydroid4; schestowitz-TR, they know it would be a huge net disadvantage to get Microsoft involved

22:36 schestowitz-TR; they talk about 'linux' foundation

22:36 schestowitz-TR; the infiltration vector

22:36 schestowitz-TR; psydroid4: yes, like olpc

22:36 schestowitz-TR; and a year ago they saw what happened to raspi

22:36 schestowitz-TR; huge blowbback

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22:37 schestowitz-TR; and lack of interest from the community

22:37 DaemonFC; The guy at Walgreens wouldn't let me finish my Hepatitis A vaccination because I was....two weeks early.

22:37 psydroid4; Windows on Raspi is a hobby project and nothing more than a second-class citizen

22:37 DaemonFC; So since Vaccine Hitler wouldn't let me do that and Jewel we next door, I just bumped up my Prevnar 13 appointment for today.

22:38 DaemonFC; That knocks out 13 serotypes of Pneumonia that I shouldn't be susceptible to in a couple of weeks. Next shot is the PPV23 dose from Merck in 12 months.

22:39 DaemonFC; Oh these Pneumonia bacteria are just nasty shit.

22:39 DaemonFC; They can do all sorts of things from ear infections, to sinus infections, to in the hospital about to die, to bacterial meningitis.

22:40 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urZLTobAfJc

22:40 TR Bot; Vs. Anti-Vaxxer | House M.D. - YouTube

22:41 psydroid4; schestowitz-TR, Raspi foundation thought they might grow with Microsoft, but it wouldn't be organic growth

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22:41 psydroid4; and without Microsoft's support they would fall by the wayside pretty quickly

22:42 MinceR; lol

22:42 psydroid4; because at that point it would be Microsoft setting the agenda and not them

22:42 TR News; #PyPI is not trustworthy: zaitcev LiveJournal https://zaitcev.livejournal.com/263602.html #zaitcev #python #programming

22:42 TR Bot; PyPI is not trustworthy: zaitcev LiveJournal

22:43 AdmFubar; https://hackaday.com/2022/01/04/growing-spectacular-gem-like-crystals-from-rust-and-simple-ingredients/

22:43 TR Bot; Spectacular Gem-Like Crystals From Rust And Simple Ingredients | Hackaday

22:44 TR News; #outreachy outsourced to #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware :/ https://vanessa-kris.github.io/week5-blog-post.html

22:44 TR Bot; Vanessa's Blog | Week5 Blog Post

22:45 TR News; The #Cucumber House That #LEGO Built | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/01/04/the-cucumber-house-that-lego-built/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/04/#latest

22:45 TR Bot; Cucumber House That LEGO Built | Hackaday

22:45 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts

22:46 TR News; "The finished panel is driven by a combination of a Teensy 3.2 to generate the data signals and a Raspberry Pi to process the images." https://hackaday.com/2022/01/04/modular-design-enables-huge-ping-pong-ball-led-displays/

22:46 TR Bot; Design Enables Huge Ping-Pong Ball LED Displays | Hackaday

22:47 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5rlAjuwdLQ

22:47 TR Bot; Borg Collective Speaks - A Star Trek Compilation - YouTube

22:47 DaemonFC; Freedom is irrelevant. Self-determination is irrelevant. You must comply!

22:47 DaemonFC; Okay, Democrat!

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22:49 TR News; Mike Blumenkrantz: "I came back to the gift of a new CS:GO version which adds DXVK support, so now theres also Gallium Nine support. It works fine." https://www.supergoodcode.com/choo-choo/

22:49 TR Bot; Choo Choo Mike Blumenkrantz Super. Good. Code.

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22:53 schestowitz; MinceR: when anti-vaxer meant against vaccination

22:53 schestowitz; and not a person who doesn't assume every single thing in the market is holy

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22:54 AdmFubar; yeah it seems intel in done for https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/intel-mobileye-eyeq-autonomous-driving

22:54 TR Bot; newest autonomous driving chip from Intel's Mobileye doesn't have any of Intel's core tech - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech

22:54 schestowitz; yeah, I saw it

22:54 schestowitz; see above

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22:54 schestowitz; phoronix and linuxgizmo jumped up and down in excitement

22:55 schestowitz; some new intel excitement

22:55 schestowitz; must be "Linux" news

22:55 schestowitz; not excrement

22:55 schestowitz; excitement

22:55 schestowitz; 30-watt CPUs

22:56 AdmFubar; https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/01/04/riscv_cto_interview/

22:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/01/04/riscv_cto_interview/

22:56 TR Bot; RISC-V CTO: We're not chip dictators like Arm or x86 The Register

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22:57 TR News; Today in Planet #fedora ... "Fedora Has Too Many Security Bugs" :-) https://mivehind.net/2022/01/04/Fedora-has-too-many-security-bugs-3/ #ibm #redhat

22:57 TR Bot; Fedora Has Too Many Security Bugs 3

22:58 TR News; Video Editing with Linux: All About B-roll - Purism https://puri.sm/posts/video-editing-with-linux-all-about-b-roll/ #purism #gnu #linux

22:58 TR Bot; Video Editing with Linux: All About B-roll Purism

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23:00 DaemonFC; I got some LOLs on my comment about Siri.

23:00 TR News; Judging GNOME/KDE or GTK/Qt from the lens of malicious and proprietary Microsoft software that spies on the users https://blog.vladzahorodnii.com/2021/12/31/more-consistent-font-rendering-in-plasma/

23:00 TR Bot; More consistent font rendering in Plasma Vlad Zahorodnii's Blog

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23:02 DaemonFC; At least Bill isn't wrong about one thing.

23:02 DaemonFC; Real hamburgers are awesome.

23:03 DaemonFC; Even more so with cheese.

23:03 MinceR; 04 234743 < DaemonFC> Freedom is irrelevant. Self-determination is irrelevant. You must comply!

23:03 MinceR; OK, microsoft

23:03 DaemonFC; Okay, Viktor.

23:04 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: does bill like pizza too?

23:04 schestowitz-TR; maybe he can speak to DrPizza

23:04 DaemonFC; This is Bill. Bill likes puddin'.....Puddin' his dick where it don't belong.

23:04 schestowitz-TR; he can visit him in prison now

23:04 DaemonFC; Different Bill, but still applies.

23:04 schestowitz-TR; Peter Bright "Dr Pizza" is noty dead yet

23:04 schestowitz-TR; Bill can go visit him

23:05 schestowitz-TR; and if it does not work out, then "well, he's dead"

23:05 DaemonFC; Oh God, is that who DrPizza was?

23:05 DaemonFC; I vaguely recall him.

23:05 schestowitz-TR; arrested for raping kids

23:05 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft Peter

23:05 DaemonFC; Trolled us?

23:05 schestowitz-TR; from Arse Technically Pedophile

23:05 schestowitz-TR; yes, he came here to IRC

23:06 schestowitz-TR; he was Microsoft's media operative in Conde Nasty

23:06 DaemonFC; Yes, schestowitz-TR. This COVID-19 shit is doing damage to legitimate vaccines.

23:06 schestowitz-TR; preparing puff pieces for the GitHub takeover

23:06 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: it ought not

23:06 DaemonFC; Which were developed over many years, which are known to work and be safe, and eliminate the disease they target (if most people take them),

23:06 schestowitz-TR; a vaccine tried and tested for decades is likely finew

23:06 schestowitz-TR; *fine

23:07 schestowitz-TR; if people reject all vaccines because of Mandate Joe, then maybe they were antivax all along

23:07 DaemonFC; Yes, I went ahead with the Pneumonia one because I had a talk with the doctor and she said it was possible that what I had last month was Pneumonia and that as you age, you are likely to suffer it worse.

23:07 DaemonFC; And that the vaccines substantially reduce the threat.

23:09 DaemonFC; So now that I'm sure what I had last month is gone, I want to make sure I get the vaccines now, before anything can happen to my health insurance.

23:09 DaemonFC; I have to come back next year for the other one.

23:09 schestowitz-TR; if you lock yourself 'down', vaccines are becoming less urgent

23:09 schestowitz-TR; as you come in contact with fewer things

23:09 schestowitz-TR; other than just covid-19

23:10 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> if people reject all vaccines because of Mandate Joe, then maybe they were antivax all along

23:10 DaemonFC; If this were about public health, there'd be mandates for vaccines that we know work.

23:10 DaemonFC; There's nastier stuff floating around than COVID.

23:10 schestowitz-TR; yeah

23:10 schestowitz-TR; wait

23:10 schestowitz-TR; I said "yeah"

23:10 schestowitz-TR; to the first statement

23:10 schestowitz-TR; no the second

23:10 schestowitz-TR; about mandates still not required for things like measles

23:11 DaemonFC; Hepatitis A is nastier than COVID.

23:11 schestowitz-TR; which means they still spread in some communities

23:11 schestowitz-TR; about nastiness of things, socivd-19 seems worse

23:11 DaemonFC; It's not as widespread, BECAUSE of the vaccination, but only some people have gotten the vaccination.

23:11 schestowitz-TR; long incubation period, fast spread etc.

23:11 DaemonFC; We should press forward and eradicate Hepatitis A and B.

23:11 schestowitz-TR; you cannot

23:11 DaemonFC; The government should cover the cost of those.

23:11 DaemonFC; They're not expensive.

23:11 schestowitz-TR; it'll come from other countries

23:12 DaemonFC; Not if almost everyone here is immune to it.

23:12 TR News; New GNU/Linux Videos: Video Editing, Garuda Linux, and "Linus Is Right About Linux Gaming" Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159897 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

23:12 TR Bot; New GNU/Linux Videos: Video Editing, Garuda Linux, and "Linus Is Right About Linux Gaming" | Tux Machines

23:13 DaemonFC; Herd Immunity is sort of a firewall. If you get 80-90% of the people vaccinated and it's a very effective vaccine, there's hardly any way the disease could become widespread again.

23:13 DaemonFC; Viruses that mutate into a hundred more things every year, you can't really control or contain them.

23:14 DaemonFC; But the vaccine they started giving in the 70s for Hepatitis B still protects people all these years later.

23:14 DaemonFC; So COVID is perhaps not a great target for a vaccine, but plenty of things are.

23:14 tech_exorcist; haven't been reading the channel, but does Hepatitis B mutate as much as COVID does?

23:14 DaemonFC; No, it doesn't.

23:15 DaemonFC; In fact, one of the things doctors do as part of HIV case management for people who have that is....

23:15 DaemonFC; Bring them up to date with their vaccines.

23:15 tech_exorcist; I see

23:15 DaemonFC; You don't want them to get something else and have to try to treat that too.

23:15 tech_exorcist; makes sense

23:16 DaemonFC; And people should quit being so selfish and ignorant, because that's what anti-vax is.

23:16 DaemonFC; It's ignorance of the facts, and selfishness based on that ignorance.

23:16 DaemonFC; You can most likely tolerate every adult vaccine out there.

23:16 DaemonFC; They do work.

23:17 DaemonFC; If you get them, it can save the lives of others, because the disease won't vector through you.

23:18 DaemonFC; I had hoped that COVID wouldn't mutate quickly and that the vaccine would stop me from getting it and thereby transmitting it.

23:18 DaemonFC; But it can still happen because it did mutate quickly.

23:19 DaemonFC; This is going to turn into another flu shot.

23:19 DaemonFC; The flu shots aren't very effective and they wear off after about 6 months.

23:19 DaemonFC; So you have to time them to kick in right before flu season, and even then you're looking at an average efficacy of about 50%.

23:20 tech_exorcist; I see

23:21 DaemonFC; This year, they say 99% of flu circulating in the US is H3N2, but it's not a good match for the H3N2 in the vaccine.

23:21 DaemonFC; There are subtypes, and it's a different subtype going around than what they planned for.

23:22 DaemonFC; An imperfect match can still reduce the symptoms, but it won't stop you from getting the flu.

23:22 DaemonFC; They've been looking for a "universal flu shot" forever that won't need to change every year.

23:22 DaemonFC; Now they're talking about an mRNA-based flu shot.

23:23 DaemonFC; The ones we use now are basically not much different than the method the US military developed in the 1940s.

23:23 DaemonFC; So we're talking about a technology stuck in the era of World War II.

23:24 TR News; ini.techrights.org/2022/01/04/osi-dialogue/

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23:24 schestowitz; Dialogue With the #OSI Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/01/04/osi-dialogue/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/04/osi-dialogue/

23:24 TR Bot; Dialogue With the OSI | Techrights

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23:37 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 231.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 245.34

23:49 activelow; DaemonFC: the argument i heard of was "prevent excess hospitalization", which it didn't; otherwise anything you said is not verified and/or contradicted by recent reports

23:50 DaemonFC; I just bought us some tickets to the aquarium.

23:50 DaemonFC; Illinois resident free day.

23:50 DaemonFC; $3 service charge is the only fee.

23:51 DaemonFC; Mayor Shithead actually did us a favor.

23:51 DaemonFC; 40% of the adults and 62% of the children are "unvassinated" and won't be able to go.

23:51 DaemonFC; Bestest Free Day Ever!

23:51 DaemonFC; schestowitz, ^

23:52 schestowitz-TR; ?

23:52 DaemonFC; It gets rid of those obnoxious kids that are all over the place on the free days.

23:52 schestowitz-TR; masks and distance help

23:52 schestowitz-TR; also, what do they care?

23:52 schestowitz-TR; they are not hospitals

23:52 schestowitz-TR; these people risk their own lives

23:52 DaemonFC; And you can only go on the free days because shit's so expensive now.

23:53 DaemonFC; It stands to reason if kids have to be vaccinated and only about 38% of the kids in Chicago are, then there will be at least 62% less kids vs. normal

23:54 DaemonFC; We might even be able to sit and enjoy the visit.

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