IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, December 13, 2021
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07:12 schestowitz; "
07:12 schestowitz; Hi Dr. Schestowitz,
07:12 schestowitz; I saw your article expressing concerns about Nat Friedman's character on TechRights.org.
07:12 schestowitz; "
07:17 schestowitz; [21:15] <schestowitz-TR> yes
07:17 schestowitz; [21:15] <schestowitz-TR> PGP is one
07:17 schestowitz; [21:16] <schestowitz-TR> or we can use mumble
07:17 schestowitz; [21:16] <Source> bear in mind my technical skills are xxxxxx, so something like signal would be helpful
07:17 schestowitz; [21:16] <schestowitz-TR> or other encrypted things, end-to-end
07:17 schestowitz; [21:16] <schestowitz-TR> Signal is not so secure
07:17 schestowitz; [21:16] <Source> really? damn
07:17 schestowitz; [21:16] <schestowitz-TR> and it requires "mobile" "phone", which I don't have
07:17 schestowitz; [21:17] <schestowitz-TR> hold on to comms you had with publishers that are big
07:17 schestowitz; [21:17] <schestowitz-TR> they need to be named for "believing powerful men"
07:17 schestowitz; [21:17] <schestowitz-TR> I would have recommended protonmail, but
07:17 schestowitz; [21:18] <schestowitz-TR> they recently turned in a climate activists to French authorities
07:17 schestowitz; [21:18] <Source> lets see if I can do mumble
07:17 schestowitz; [21:18] <Source> I have to google my way through PGP
07:17 schestowitz; [21:18] <schestowitz-TR> you might be spied on by Private Investigators
07:17 schestowitz; [21:18] <schestowitz-TR> or the people you named
07:17 schestowitz; [21:19] <schestowitz-TR> if you say something not encrypted, the assumption should be, "they may know"
07:17 schestowitz; [21:20] <Source> I haven't said anything I haven't said on twitter
07:17 schestowitz; [21:20] <schestowitz-TR> Source: side note
07:17 schestowitz; [21:20] <schestowitz-TR> (of elevance)
07:17 schestowitz; [21:20] <schestowitz-TR> real encryption tools are hard to find
07:17 schestowitz; [21:20] <schestowitz-TR> it's not an accident
07:17 schestowitz; [21:20] <schestowitz-TR> it's because those who create such tools get targeted a lot
07:17 schestowitz; [21:20] <Source> apple won't let me install mumble
07:17 schestowitz; [21:20] <Source> is it on homebrew?
07:17 schestowitz; [21:21] <schestowitz-TR> apropos
07:17 schestowitz; [21:21] <schestowitz> techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/
07:17 schestowitz; [21:21] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/
07:17 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | Techrights
07:17 schestowitz; [21:21] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- techrights.org | High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | Techrights
07:17 schestowitz; [21:21] <schestowitz-TR> mumble might work on OS X
07:17 schestowitz; [21:21] <schestowitz-TR> don't know if they do "mobile"
07:17 schestowitz; [21:21] <schestowitz-TR> it's also a voice thing
07:18 schestowitz; [21:22] <schestowitz-TR> voice can be faster to work with in some contexts
07:18 schestowitz; [21:22] <schestowitz-TR> just make sure you keep all notes
07:18 schestowitz; [21:22] <schestowitz-TR> I will do too
07:18 schestowitz; [21:22] <schestowitz-TR> I later meticulously go through everything, for x2 or x3 longer than they take to write
07:19 schestowitz; [21:15] <Source> do you have some more secure form of communication
07:19 schestowitz; [21:24] <Source> ok, I think it's installed
07:19 schestowitz; [21:24] <Source> feel like I'm using 1999 internet right now lol
07:19 schestowitz; [21:24] <schestowitz-TR> newer is not always better
07:19 schestowitz; [21:25] <schestowitz-TR> tell me if it runs OK
07:19 schestowitz; [21:25] <schestowitz-TR> I can send you address of locally-hosted server, with e2e encryption
07:19 schestowitz; [21:25] <Source> sure lets do that
07:19 schestowitz; [21:27] <Source> I have it installed.
07:19 schestowitz; [21:27] <Source> there's like a globe with a server list
07:19 schestowitz; [21:27] <Source> I see "add new"
07:19 schestowitz; [21:28] <schestowitz-TR> yes
07:19 schestowitz; [21:28] <schestowitz-TR> I sent you that
07:19 schestowitz; [21:28] <schestowitz-TR> it's not publicly advertise
07:19 schestowitz; [21:28] <schestowitz-TR> for obvious reasons
07:19 schestowitz; [21:28] <schestowitz-TR> *advertised
07:19 schestowitz; [21:28] <Source> email?
07:19 schestowitz; [21:29] <schestowitz-TR> parsdon?
07:19 schestowitz; [21:29] <schestowitz-TR> pardon?
07:19 schestowitz; [21:29] <schestowitz-TR> oh, email
07:19 schestowitz; [21:29] <schestowitz-TR> I share my email, but email is not secure
07:19 schestowitz; [21:29] <schestowitz-TR> it's one of the least secure things in the planet
07:19 schestowitz; [21:29] <schestowitz-TR> all mail relays see the contents
07:19 schestowitz; [21:29] <schestowitz-TR> and some sell the data for financial gain
07:19 schestowitz; [21:31] <Source> yeah... xxxxxxxxx explained that to me once
07:19 schestowitz; [21:33] <schestowitz-TR> ha, youi know him
07:19 schestowitz; [21:36] <Source> we're acquainted again through dating, but not much happened there.
07:19 schestowitz; [21:37] <Source> his dad runs a company that intercepts email to bypass spam filters or something
07:19 schestowitz; [21:37] <Source> xxxxx isn't even his real last name
07:19 schestowitz; [21:37] <Source> it's his dad's first name or something
07:19 schestowitz; [21:44] <Source> as far as the NSA goes, I've had some expose
07:19 schestowitz; [21:44] <Source> but not related to Nat and Alex
07:33 schestowitz; [22:52] <schestowitz> I've just published http://techrights.org/2021/10/13/general-bock-switzerland/
07:33 schestowitz; [22:52] <schestowitz> not relevant to your case
07:33 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XI: General Bock Battistellis Swiss Apprentice? | Techrights
07:33 schestowitz; [22:52] <schestowitz> but this is a series that's daily
07:33 schestowitz; [22:52] <schestowitz> until month's end
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17:42 schestowitz; "You are not limited to only serving gemtext over gemini, you can serve other media types such as HTML, PDF, ODF etc, which may be better suited to this particular desire than gemtext which is - as plain to see and by design - quite basic." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007681.html
17:42 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Documents with mixed languages
17:43 schestowitz; zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "@ionebelarra the latest problem is that the UPCA violates EU law and the CJEU jurisprudence of the last 10 years on international courts that have to interpret EU law, CJEU asks for a **functional links-after.html links-before.html links-clean.html links-cull-empty-2019.pl links-cull-empty-latest-latest.pl links-cull-empty-latest.pl links-cull-empty.pl links-latest.sh with the Courts of the Member States, not
17:43 schestowitz; UPC design http://techrights.org/2021/12/01/thomas-jaeger-in-grur/" | nitter https://nitter.eu/zoobab/status/1470433948526338064 #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/13/#latest
17:43 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "@ionebelarra the latest problem is that the UPCA violates EU law and the CJEU jurisprudence of the last 10 years on international courts that have to interpret EU law, CJEU asks for a **functional link** with the Courts of the Member States, not UPC design http://techrights.org/2021/12/01/thomas-jaeger-in-grur/" | nitter
17:43 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
17:43 schestowitz; "
17:43 schestowitz; @ionebelarra
17:43 schestowitz; Spain should send the whole bill to the CJEU for an opinion on compatibility with EU law, like it did on several points only in 2015 (governement under the PP).
17:43 schestowitz; "
17:43 schestowitz; "The same position is also shared by the Spanish Confederation of Employers and Industries of Spain (CEOE): Litigation under the UPC will be unaffordable for SMEs. [...] The fee for invalidation, for ex, would be 20.000EUR. On top, lawyers fees, etc..."
17:43 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/CloudDoor1/status/1470430360483815427
17:43 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@CloudDoor1: #clouddoor Next Monday #Microsoft #GitHub Chief Architect of GitHub #Copilot is on trial for woman-choking three https://t.co/lyT53USW9a
17:43 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@CloudDoor1: #clouddoor Next Monday #Microsoft #GitHub Chief Architect of GitHub #Copilot is on trial for woman-choking three https://t.co/lyT53USW9a
17:43 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/unixcat_coffee/status/1470398235307032579
17:43 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@unixcat_coffee: @bodil Yeah, I'm considerably less confident in my earlier statements now: https://t.co/wdFyFtTntD
17:43 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights
17:48 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/helvetius66/status/1470446720437915652
17:48 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@helvetius66: "It's great. I've trained my human to give me food when I press this button" @derekberes https://t.co/sIB1pkmDxl
17:48 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: A "talking" cat is giving scientists insight into how felines think https://t.co/UTamILCaca
17:49 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/Pinkopanterata/status/1460344092525748237
17:49 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Pinkopanterata: @schestowitz Why???
17:58 schestowitz; > Same for that swpat recent study:
17:58 schestowitz; >
17:58 schestowitz; > https://documents.epo.org/projects/babylon/eponot.nsf/0/E1845285B1DD9C53C125879F00374910/$File/comparative_study_on_computer_implemented_inventions_software_related_inventions_EPO_KIPO_en.pdf
17:58 schestowitz; >
17:58 schestowitz; > It would be fun to have a shell inside.
17:58 schestowitz; Naa... I'd rather expose corruption than tinker.
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