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== [Gemini capsule] * ============ [ 2023-08-16 ] ==

Debian 30 years behind

I am using Debian since later "Potato" distribution. Debian is one of the good distribution back in the time, today is even better.

Take a look at this newsgroup message from Ian Murdock this is how Debian was created.

From portal!imurdock Mon Aug 16 06:31:03 1993

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development

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From: imurdock@shell.portal.com (Ian A Murdock)

Subject: New release under development; suggestions requested

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Fellow Linuxers,

This is just to announce the imminent completion of a brand-new Linux release,

which I'm calling the Debian Linux Release. This is a release that I have put

together basically from scratch; in other words, I didn't simply make some

changes to SLS and call it a new release. I was inspired to put together this

release after running SLS and generally being dissatisfied with much of it,

and after much altering of SLS I decided that it would be easier to start

from scratch. The base system is now virtually complete (though I'm still

looking around to make sure that I grabbed the most recent sources for

everything), and I'd like to get some feedback before I add the "fancy" stuff.

Please note that this release is not yet completed and may not be for several

more weeks; however, I thought I'd post now to perhaps draw a few people out

of the woodwork. Specifically, I'm looking for:

1) someone who will eventually be willing to allow me to upload the

release to their anonymous ftp-site. Please contact me.

Be warned that it will be rather large :)

2) comments, suggestions, advice, etc. from the Linux community. This

is your chance to suggest specific packages, series, or

anything you'd like to see part of the final release.

Don't assume that because a package is in SLS that it will necessarily be

included in the Debian release! Things like ls and cat are a given, but if

there's anything that's in SLS that you couldn't live without please let me

know!

I'd also like suggestions for specific features for the release. For example,

a friend of mine here suggested that undesired packages should be selected

BEFORE the installation procedure begins so the installer doesn't have to

babysit the installation. Suggestions along that line are also welcomed.

What will make this release better than SLS? This:

1) Debian will be sleeker and slimmer. No more multiple binaries and

manpages.

2) Debian will contain the most up-to-date of everything. The system

will be easy to keep up-to-date with a 'upgrading' script in

the base system which will allow complete integration of

upgrade packages.

3) Debian will contain a installation procedure that doesn't need to

be babysat; simply install the basedisk, copy the distribution

disks to the harddrive, answer some question about what

packages you want or don't want installed, and let the machine

install the release while you do more interesting things.

4) Debian will contain a system setup procedure that will attempt to

setup and configure everything from fstab to Xconfig.

5) Debian will contain a menu system that WORKS... menu-driven

package installation and upgrading utility, menu-driven

system setup, menu-driven help system, and menu-driven

system administration.

6) Debian will make Linux easier for users who don't have access to the

Internet. Currently, users are stuck with whatever comes with

SLS. Non-Internet users will have the option of receiving

periodic upgrade packages to apply to their system. They will

also have the option of selecting from a huge library of

additional packages that will not be included in the base

system. This library will contain packages like the S3

X-server, nethack and Seyon; basically packages that you and I

can ftp but non-netters cannot access.

7) Debian will be extensively documented (more than just a few

READMEs).

8) As I put together Debian, I am keeping a meticulous record of

where I got everything. This will allow the end-user to

not only know where to get the source, but whether or not

the most recent version is a part of Debian. This record

will help to keep the Debian release as up-to-date as possible.

9) Lots more, but I'll detail later...

Anyway, I'll provide more specifics in a week or so after I receive enough

replies.

Please, all replies by mail. I'll post a followup. If you wish to discuss

this in the newsgroup, please don't turn it into a flamewar. :)

Until later,

Ian

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Ian Murdock                              Internet: imurdock@shell.portal.com

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